[Group]: Espada, Arrancar & Fracción (Part 8)

[Shuma22]

He was filler ****. Ie, he never existed.

[urie12]

I hope Kubo does a stat sheet for the Espada and vizards. I really want to see how their stats fair against the captains of Gotei 13.

[Skyguy]

Originally Posted by ichigo1996

why was patros never upgraded to fraction he forced renji into bankai and help from the mod souls

although the mod souls are like the best characters in bleach they are not canon they are just imaginary filler characters so anything they do dosnt matter in the manga

[tompson112]

I was bored and reread the Ichigo vs Ulq battle and I saw something that verified to me that Ulq was the strongest.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/351/08/

If you notice the blast wave is roughly the same size of las noches which was unimaginably huge massive far bigger than the entire fake Karukura town battlefeild. I dont recall any one using anything that annilated all of karakura in the fights shown so far.

[Azakai]

Originally Posted by tompson112

I was bored and reread the Ichigo vs Ulq battle and I saw something that verified to me that Ulq was the strongest.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/351/08/

If you notice the blast wave is roughly the same size of las noches which was unimaginably huge massive far bigger than the entire fake Karukura town battlefeild. I dont recall any one using anything that annilated all of karakura in the fights shown so far.

I don't think this proves he was the strongest. There are a lot of variables in your argument. For example you are assuming the blast was ROUGHLY the same size as Las Noches and assuming this is FAR bigger than FKT. I wouldn't base a varification on assumption. Sorry.

[tompson112]

Well judging from perspective of the image the blast radius is a signifigant portion of the diamiter of las noches, but the blast is behind las noches meaning that las noches would appear bigger seince its closer to the point of veiw. And pertaining to Las Noches size Ichigo and co. commented many times on the massive size of las noches, infact they were unable to understand that they were inside a building when they were in it. Oh and you can see a horizon inside of Las Noches which means from the middle to the edge would have to be 20+ miles.

[Azakai]

Originally Posted by tompson112

Well judging from perspective of the image the blast radius is a signifigant portion of the diamiter of las noches, but the blast is behind las noches meaning that las noches would appear bigger seince its closer to the point of veiw. And pertaining to Las Noches size Ichigo and co. commented many times on the massive size of las noches, infact they were unable to understand that they were inside a building when they were in it. Oh and you can see a horizon inside of Las Noches which means from the middle to the edge would have to be 20+ miles.

Sorry to me that means little. I wouldn't count any of that as evidence to prove Ulquiorra to be the strongest either as direct evidence or indirect. Although I'm happy you presented your argument well, I dont think we can "judge from the perspective of the image" correctly. I don't think Kubo drew this image for the purpose of giving us a hint as to whether Ulquiorra was the strongest. I believe the image shows us he is very strong but gives no incinuation as to just how strong. As I said I think there are far too many variables in your argument.

[tompson112]

Well I mentioned the perspective because the perspective makes the attack area seem smaller than it wouldve been if it were side by side with Hueco mundo but it is behind it. Even if thats the total extent of the blast it is still a good 85% of Hueco mundo.

[Azakai]

Originally Posted by tompson112

Well I mentioned the perspective because the perspective makes the attack area seem smaller than it wouldve been if it were side by side with Hueco mundo but it is behind it. Even if thats the total extent of the blast it is still a good 85% of Hueco mundo.

Hmmn. Right. But since when did physics enter bleach where people can shunpo? By the way your estimates are very general. So even if your theory is correct there is no way of measuring the power of the blast.

[Tvtyrant]

Originally Posted by tompson112

I was bored and reread the Ichigo vs Ulq battle and I saw something that verified to me that Ulq was the strongest.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/351/08/

If you notice the blast wave is roughly the same size of las noches which was unimaginably huge massive far bigger than the entire fake Karukura town battlefeild. I dont recall any one using anything that annilated all of karakura in the fights shown so far.

This discounts the overwhelming fact that he did that in Hueco Mundo. They didn't spend roughly 3 chapters talking about how much stronger is in Hueco Mundo compared to outside for no reason. Shinigami, Hollows, Quincy, and Chad-freak-Hollow-thing all get tremendously stronger in Hueco Mundo due to the abundance of "spiritrons" and spirit energy. This increase turns Ishida into the silver surfer, gives Chad another arm, and definitely enhances Hollow abilities. The playing field is completely different due to the difference in latent energies.