[Theory] Minato's plan to stop Madara

[Neji's eyes]

Originally Posted by Slye RoCkz

I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking that somehow Naruto will unlock eyes that will put a stop to madara's plan along with his stamina. I believe that Madara's plan will come true somehow. I think that he will capture Naruto and realize that not all of the kyuubi is within him. Or maybe he will figure out that the rest is within the death god and take it somehow from there. (That could spare NAruto's life) That could also be a part of Minato's plan. I couldn't imagine how Overpowered Naruto would be if he unlocked the eyes and aquire space time ninjutsu but I think he is the only one in Naruto allowed to do that.

Man I like the way this debate is going so far....good opinions and theories...but you mentioned something that I would like to know myself....since Minato split the ying and yang of the 9 tails wouldn't or shouldn't that effect Madara plan because the 9 tails isn't whole? Shouldn't the 9 tails be a little weaker then the one he controlled back when it attacked Konoha....I think that has to effect his "Moons eye plan" a little bit or does it not matter?

[The_Truth]

Originally Posted by Smithy86

1, he made him into a jinchuriki, oh wow, what else was he supposed to do to give naruto a power involving a biju?????

2, a shell of his former self who minato could not defeat and minato was going to lose his life to stop the kyubi leaving no one else capable.
minato left hope, not the only way possible since i'm sure he knew that madara may have attacked while naruto was still young which would've been the end of everything...naruto is the ray of hope for konoha, not the key to victory.

oh and yes his views may have changed now that he talked to minato but that isn't the point i was making,
i was showing you that we as readers could easily tell that kyubi is naruto's greatest gift (since the very beginning of the manga) but he looked at it as a curse and didn't want it.

1 Why was the Sage of the 6 paths considered a god? Because he saved the world from the Juubi, he made himself the ultimate Jinchuuriki. Naruto is a Jinchuuriki but a special one.... I will show you by examples of the Manga...

Spoiler:

Naruto has only the yang chakra of the Kyuubi sealed inside of him. The other yin chakra was sealed within the Death god. He doesn't have the full power of the Kyuubi sealed inside of him. Minato wants him to finish "that Jutsu".
I think in order to control the Kyuubi, Naruto has to go into another training session, which will concentrate on the quality control of the Yin and Yang chakra types.

Spoiler:

2 Well Madara was defeated by Minato's move, which was stated by Itachi. What techniques did we see from Madara so far? Only his time/space Ninjutsu.

[Neji's eyes]

Originally Posted by The_Truth

1 Why was the Sage of the 6 paths considered a god? Because he saved the world from the Juubi, he made himself the ultimate Jinchuuriki. Naruto is a Jinchuuriki but a special one.... I will show you by examples of the Manga...

Spoiler:

Naruto has only the yang chakra of the Kyuubi sealed inside of him. The other yin chakra was sealed within the Death god. He doesn't have the full power of the Kyuubi sealed inside of him. Minato wants him to finish "that Jutsu".
I think in order to control the Kyuubi, Naruto has to go into another training session, which will concentrate on the quality control of the Yin and Yang chakra types.

Spoiler:

2 Well Madara was defeated by Minato's move, which was stated by Itachi. What techniques did we see from Madara so far? Only his time/space Ninjutsu.

So you think at some point and time we will see Naruto try to fuse both ying and yang chakra of the 9 tails? It makes since to think that as a whole the 9 tails is way to much for someone to be a host for, but seeing if one can control 1 half before trying to control the whole thing seems like a plan that a father would do for their son. That would be very interesting if that is the case.

[The_Truth]

Originally Posted by Neji's eyes

So you think at some point and time we will see Naruto try to fuse both ying and yang chakra of the 9 tails? It makes since to think that as a whole the 9 tails is way to much for someone to be a host for, but seeing if one can control 1 half before trying to control the whole thing seems like a plan that a father would do for their son. That would be very interesting if that is the case.

I don't think that the Yin chakra of the Kyuubi can be brought back from the Reaper Death God. But I think that Naruto will use his chakra and add Sage chakra which will result into a new stronger chakra, and then fuse it with the Kyuubi chakra to complete "that Jutsu", becoming the chakra beast.
Take a look at this...

Spoiler:

I think learning Sage Mode was the first step in learning how to control chakra effeciently. He has achieved a proper Sage Mode which is more powerful than Jiraiya's, and he doesn't need Fukasaku to use Sage Mode. This training should grant him more access to the Kyuubi chakra, because he wasn't able to "fight" the Kyuubi's chakra before, but now he has learned to concentrate and fuse chakra together...

[Neji's eyes]

Originally Posted by The_Truth

I don't think that the Yin chakra of the Kyuubi can be brought back from the Reaper Death God. But I think that Naruto will use his chakra and add Sage chakra which will result into a new stronger chakra, and then fuse it with the Kyuubi chakra to complete "that Jutsu", becoming the chakra beast.
Take a look at this...

Spoiler:

I think learning Sage Mode was the first step in learning how to control chakra effeciently. He has achieved a proper Sage Mode which is more powerful than Jiraiya's, and he doesn't need Fukasaku to use Sage Mode. This training should grant him more access to the Kyuubi chakra, because he wasn't able to "fight" the Kyuubi's chakra before, but now he has learned to concentrate and fuse chakra together...

I see what your getting at and that makes good sense...Naruto would be nice when he learns how to use this....I know some fans have be upset with how the Sharingan has looked like this Unstoppable power but if naruto can pull this off then it would be a perfect counter to what Sasuke can do....We already seen Naruto throw his Rasangen...I wonder what else he could create in Sage/Kyuubi mode

[Smithy86]

Originally Posted by The_Truth

1 Why was the Sage of the 6 paths considered a god? Because he saved the world from the Juubi, he made himself the ultimate Jinchuuriki. Naruto is a Jinchuuriki but a special one.... I will show you by examples of the Manga...

Spoiler:

Naruto has only the yang chakra of the Kyuubi sealed inside of him. The other yin chakra was sealed within the Death god. He doesn't have the full power of the Kyuubi sealed inside of him. Minato wants him to finish "that Jutsu".
I think in order to control the Kyuubi, Naruto has to go into another training session, which will concentrate on the quality control of the Yin and Yang chakra types.

Spoiler:

2 Well Madara was defeated by Minato's move, which was stated by Itachi. What techniques did we see from Madara so far? Only his time/space Ninjutsu.

1, like i said he made naruto into a jinchuriki, kyubi is a lot of power to handle so minato took some precautions, not come up with some elaborate plan because kyubi is the key to defeating madara, nice pages though

2, i agree, he does need training and all that stuff so that he can control kyubi, it's the reason for all the precautions and the complexity of the seal in the first place.

edit:

Originally Posted by Neji's eyes

So you think at some point and time we will see Naruto try to fuse both ying and yang chakra of the 9 tails? It makes since to think that as a whole the 9 tails is way to much for someone to be a host for, but seeing if one can control 1 half before trying to control the whole thing seems like a plan that a father would do for their son. That would be very interesting if that is the case.

kinda what i'm getting at with the complexity of the seal so + points to you lol

[Decorus]

The method used is a sealing technique obviously there is an unsealing technique that would release something trapped in there.

[Prince Zuko]

Originally Posted by Decorus

The method used is a sealing technique obviously there is an unsealing technique that would release something trapped in there.

I can make a lock and If I ever want to operate the lock I would have to make a coresponding key to it. Although If I wanted to just lock up something forever I really don't need to make the key.

Sealing techniques don't actually need an unsealing technique. It would be nice to have some times but isn't necessary.

[themitchguy]

Originally Posted by Decorus

The method used is a sealing technique obviously there is an unsealing technique that would release something trapped in there.

Remember the 5 element seal (or whatever it was called) that Orochimaru put on Naruto? Jiraiya used a 5 element unsealing technique to unseal it.

So I personally think it's plausible that there could be unsealing techniques for other seals.

I hope I'm right

[Smithy86]

the "key frog" supposedly can unseal the lock minato put and give naruto more access to kyubi. it's why he warned jiraya about last time with the flashback where jiraiya looks half dead which would be when naruto first went 4 tails