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SilentBuddhist
02-09-2008, 06:47 PM
Oh ehm gee! Raki has his own thread now?! RAKI?! THAT useless kid?!
*cough* Well, talk about him here. It's been 7 long years since we've last saw him, and he hasn't appeared yet, since he's still training with Isley up North. How do you think he's improved over the 7 year timeskip, if he has at all? Is he still a crybaby? Is he capable of fighting yoma? Is he actually badass for once?
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n82/SirBon/parody.jpg
fullmetaljacket
02-09-2008, 06:49 PM
Oh ehm gee! Raki has his own thread now?! RAKI?! THAT useless kid?!
*cough* Well, talk about him here. It's been 7 long years since we've last saw him, and he hasn't appeared yet, since he's still training with Isley up North. How do you think he's improved over the 7 year timeskip, if he has at all? Is he still a crybaby? Is he capable of fighting yoma? Is he actually badass for once?
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n82/SirBon/parody.jpg
Oh god I lol'd, I lol'd hard
personally I think he will be badass, maybe not on the levels of the claymores but still he can't leave that long and still be a whiny crying little brat.
Tekkaman Saber
02-09-2008, 06:59 PM
:lol: Thats great bud san.
to make this post un spammish i will add more
I'm finding it hard to believe that he will be still alive after these seven years i mean Priscillas bound to get hungry sooner or later and if she does she's got a perfect midnight snack handy :devil:
hmm i guess that would be another reason for Clare to have revenge against her though.
Is anybody else wondering about Rakis chances of still being alive?
SilentBuddhist
02-09-2008, 07:15 PM
I think somehow it's thanks to his one redeeming feature, his cooking, that he's still alive :p
He's definitely alive, I'm sure. I think the question right now is, "Is he any better?" He could be, in terms of fighting skill and 7 years of experience under his belt, but it's his whiny personality that I'm worried about. I think it would be just hilarious if he turned out almost exactly like the parody I put up, but if he doesn't seriously get a complete personality revamp first it's all for nothing. I don't expect him to be Claymore quality unless he becomes a Claymore himself (which I would find pretty stupid if it happened btw), maybe he can kill several yoma, but even asking him to fight a Claymore ranked #40 or higher is a bit much.
Dantrag
02-09-2008, 07:19 PM
And if he actually does become a claymore, well he'll just suffer the fate of all male claymores and that is he will awaken rather quickly, unless he gets some weird special ability that allows him to control his own Yoki much more efficiently than any male has been able to do.
It might actually be a rather tragic but fitting twist that Clare might have to kill the boy she wanted to protect in order to save others...
Dragon_fire1995
02-09-2008, 08:20 PM
XD Love the picture. XD
Personally, I'm hoping he will either A. Become Awesome, B. Die, or C. Become a Claymore. Any of those three will work for me. What will not work for me is him staying his weak, whiny self. I HATE crybabies, doubly so if they are the love interest.
A. Is my second choice, really.
B. Is my first choice. Really, I never liked Raki.
C. Is my third and least favorable choice. After all, male claymores always have a tough time.
MacenKrace
02-09-2008, 08:24 PM
SB you thief.... that's wanny's post. She posted that thing... or Elune...
Anyway the axe effect is still cooler.
SilentBuddhist
02-09-2008, 08:29 PM
SB you thief.... that's wanny's post. She posted that thing... or Elune...
Anyway the axe effect is still cooler.
No, I was the first to put this up. I can prove it to ya if needed. ELUNE put up the Axe Effect.
Back on topic, I can agree with Dantrag that there may be a twist in the story where she'd have to kill him, by accident or otherwise.
I can see it now. Just as Clare is about to kill Pris, Raki rushes in as the sword falls, and he gets cut in half. Then he bleeds to death. Claymore is one of those tragic stories where there are good things happening from time to time, but it's not one of those happily themed mangas.
Tekkaman Saber
02-09-2008, 08:32 PM
Or something happy happens only to lead into something sad e.g. clare meeting teresa.
i'm hoping he becomes a Claymore. i mean it is the only logical way for him to survive and help Clare out in anyway at all. and honestly, i hope he does awaken so Clare has to kill him, there is no better way to get rid of him. bittersweet.
wany1981
02-09-2008, 08:48 PM
Raki is God.. do not disrespect Raki.
Raki will get all the claymore girls at the End! The Main character shield is invinicible
All Hail Raki!
fullmetaljacket
02-10-2008, 02:47 AM
I wonder how much he knows about Isley though? 7 years with an Abyssal one and priscilla- and not questioning anything?
SilentBuddhist
02-10-2008, 02:51 AM
Lol, that's another thing I can see happening. "Gee whiz guys, 7 long years and I haven't seen you eat much ever! Don't you like my cooking?"
"No, we don't. We only let you stay here alive because you smell good < insert Axe Effect joke here > ."
"Huh...? I don't get it."
"I'm telling you we are awakened ones." *gives lecture*
"O...M...G...Claaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrreeeeee!!!!!!" *cries, runs away*
Scorpio-Girl
02-10-2008, 04:04 AM
No, he probably still won't get it after the lecture.. :p
I don't know, I still feel that he should be a stronger character now, physically and mentally after SEVEN years..
It will be great if his allegiance changed from Clare to Prissy but that's near enough impossible he couldn't stay away from Clare in his youth..
fullmetaljacket
02-10-2008, 07:31 AM
True, besides i'm betting on him growing up because he's been training with Isley for seven years it'd be hard to stay weak under those circumstances.
besides he went through puberty
arjay2813
02-10-2008, 11:32 PM
bet he's gonna be more of a ladies man than Cid, and able to fight against a claymore (no way he'd win unless it was Clarice)
shonenshojo
02-10-2008, 11:52 PM
He might have changed a lot...Who knows.
But until his personality changes completely he will be one of my most hated characters(in Claymore). Before the time skip he was a cowardly little brat.:mad:
SilentBuddhist
02-10-2008, 11:58 PM
bet he's gonna be more of a ladies man than Cid, and able to fight against a claymore (no way he'd win unless it was Clarice)
The Axe Effect again?
He might have changed a lot...Who knows.
But until his personality changes completely he will be one of my most hated characters(in Claymore). Before the time skip he was a cowardly little brat.:mad:
Yeah...like I said, his only redeeming feature was his cooking, but that does not mean Raki = Sanji :rolleyes:
Useless
02-11-2008, 12:01 AM
Obviously...Sanji kicks ***. Literally and figuratively.
Raki, on the other hand, only has cooking and showering on his side. >_>
I won't mind him if he's useless as long as he isn't so whiny. Winos are much more fun to look at then whiners...
wany1981
02-11-2008, 12:22 AM
Raki will go beserk and do something like unlimited blade work to torn awaken Alicia to shreds. Just u wait and see.... Raki is god.. Raki will get all the hot claymores and take over the world.
and yaaaa.. people vote for Teresa .. i couldn't care less about Clare. My poor miria.
SilentBuddhist
02-11-2008, 12:26 AM
And then they'll all see him for the spoony bard he is :)
And then...
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z57/emu77/Raki-Request6.jpg
This is considering he doesn't change much in terms of personality after 7 years...>.<
Scorpio-Girl
02-11-2008, 12:29 AM
Will it show him in the next chapter.. ? I hope it does.. Then one of you can say 'I told you so..' :)
Lucha
02-11-2008, 12:06 PM
Raki is crybaby... but I don't think that he's dumb... with the large scale battle between Isley and Luciella, he's probably already figure out about Isley and Prissy... It's only the matter of where'd he run for...
samurai89
02-11-2008, 04:56 PM
I dno what to put my money on. It's either
1-Raki changes his attitude and is no longer a crybaby
2-Raki dies
3-Raki falls in love with pricilla
4-Raki miraculously becomes a male claymore
lsumd2011
02-11-2008, 06:51 PM
I dno what to put my money on. It's either
1-Raki changes his attitude and is no longer a crybaby
2-Raki dies
3-Raki falls in love with pricilla
4-Raki miraculously becomes a male claymore
1 is probable, if one happens, I hope 2 happens too, 3 is unlikely though Priscilla may fall in love with him, and 4 is unlikely, but would be neat. What would be funny is if 4 happens and Rakki somehow manages to become the first claymore to fully awaken and not loose himself to his yoma instincts. That would be the ultimate irony, crybaby Rakki becomes ubermore Rakki. :p
samurai89
02-11-2008, 07:19 PM
1 is probable, if one happens, I hope 2 happens too, 3 is unlikely though Priscilla may fall in love with him, and 4 is unlikely, but would be neat. What would be funny is if 4 happens and Rakki somehow manages to become the first claymore to fully awaken and not loose himself to his yoma instincts. That would be the ultimate irony, crybaby Rakki becomes ubermore Rakki. :p
If that happens anything within a 30 mile radius near me will go :skull:
EmoEmu
02-11-2008, 10:11 PM
I dno what to put my money on. It's either
1-Raki changes his attitude and is no longer a crybaby
2-Raki dies
3-Raki falls in love with pricilla
4-Raki miraculously becomes a male claymore
WELL we can combine 3 and 4.
claymores are humans with yoma inside them
raki becomes a claymore (only, like, evil) and the yoma source is priscilla
i dont know how that could develop the plot though. it probably most likely wouldnt. which would suggest that im here spamming.
5-Raki stays missing.
sure. i like that.
6-Raki loses his memories of everything from clare to yoma to his brother. raised by "humans" and does not recognize clare and defends priscilla from her cause priscilla senses her teresa bits. further function pending.
wany1981
02-11-2008, 11:09 PM
well... it's been 7 years.. maybe pricila already had Raki's baby... lol.
SWI07
02-11-2008, 11:21 PM
i hope he became a badass and uses a claymore to fight
SilentBuddhist
02-11-2008, 11:35 PM
i hope he became a badass and uses a claymore to fight
Yeah...I want my fanfiction to come true :p
Then agin having Guts come into the story would make up for it too :lol:
Oh btw options 1,3 and 4 can be put together as well. In fact that would be kinda great.
Evilminion18
02-11-2008, 11:42 PM
Then agin having Guts come into the story would make up for it too :lol:
.
yes yes Guts makes the world a better place.
What if Raki thought after seven years that CLare was dead and has now decided to move on..to a mentally unstable monster :thumbup:
SilentBuddhist
02-11-2008, 11:49 PM
Well, I can think of two possible things...
1. If Raki is still a crybaby, he may become a Claymore for the sake of becoming strong and protecting Clare, and for whatever reason he thinks she's dead. This causes him to cry his heart out until he awakens. His awakened form becomes something similar to Duff's, however he tends to lay in a fetal position. His main attack is shooting water out of his eyes (tears), and when hit with something as small as a pebble he counters by screaming "Clare' at the top of his lungs, deafening his opponents and making them bleed from their ears.
>.<
2. Should he become totally badass, he will still become a Claymore. However this time he awakens because of the sexual pleasure in releasing yoki. He becomes a monster with multiple arms and is the size of a large Buddha statue. While these arms are normal human hands that can hold weapons such as a claymore sword, when he gets serious he transforms his arms into those of a hentai tentacle monster...and I'll leave the rest to your imagination :thumbup:
>.<""
Tensa Zangetsu
02-12-2008, 02:06 AM
Hentai tentacle monster.....*cough-bible black-cough*. Anyways, I really don't want Raki to become a Claymore. That seems like waaaay too.......lame? I can't picture Raki strong....and knowing how stubborn he is, he probably won't think Clare is dead just because she said "I promise to come back" or something.
Duath
02-12-2008, 02:35 AM
...
SB wants Raki to go around raping young women and Claymores before eating them. Wow.
Or, the third option is that Raki is literally guts. Not Guts, but guts. He has been eaten by Priscilla and Isley and will not be coming back.
SilentBuddhist
02-12-2008, 02:36 AM
>.<
I like the third option though. It'll make the manga a tad more brutal.
pigpie
02-12-2008, 08:43 AM
Raki becomes a Claymore?I think even before he get cuts open he will be peeing his pants/dress.....whatever he is wearing.
I think Raki is like a delicacy or something.I mean a Yoma said he was very delicious,the awaken being that Ophelia took down said he was delicious and Prissy said he smelled good.
Evilminion18
02-14-2008, 01:03 AM
Maybe Prissy will want to savor him so instead of actully eatting him she just lick him all the time like some sort of fleashy sucker or lollypop... which will make Isley pissed off, he will proceed to make sure Raki has a nice little accident while they are training together... I really hope he doesn't become a claymore...
He better be dead or maybe the plaything of Prissy just not a claymore.
shonenshojo
02-14-2008, 01:10 AM
Actually...instead of Priscilla licking him how about she finds a way to kill him after he finds Clare. After that Clare learns that he's been with Priscilla this whole time and kills him. After, she commits suicide for killing him in the first place.
...Then either Galatea or Miria take the role of main character.....
God, please don't let Raki become a Claymore.*prays*
Scorpio-Girl
02-14-2008, 01:25 AM
...
SB wants Raki to go around raping young women and Claymores before eating them. Wow.
Or, the third option is that Raki is literally guts. Not Guts, but guts. He has been eaten by Priscilla and Isley and will not be coming back.
LOL, even though they can't have babies imagine little Raki's everywhere.. >.<
The guts is all they eat.. So if Prissy wants to 'lick' him the gut will still have to be opened. She'll keep him with her till the end. They could end up inseparable and best buds... till Clare comes along.
I want Isley to turn into the good guy! Doubtful, I know. >.>
Evilminion18
02-14-2008, 01:34 AM
Actually...instead of Priscilla licking him how about she finds a way to kill him after he finds Clare. After that Clare learns that he's been with Priscilla this whole time and kills him. After, she commits suicide for killing him in the first place.
...Then either Galatea or Miria take the role of main character.....
God, please don't let Raki become a Claymore.*prays*
A very ideal outcome
of course the idea that Raki dies a slow painful death watching in horror as Prissy sucks on her new fleshy lollypop... then afterwards deciding to cuddle with Raki because he smells good hehehe.:eban:
Does anyone even like Raki?
shonenshojo
02-14-2008, 01:38 AM
A very ideal outcome
of course the idea that Raki dies a slow painful death watching in horror as Prissy sucks on her new fleshy lollypop... then afterwards deciding to cuddle with Raki because he smells good hehehe.:eban:
Does anyone even like Raki?
Probably not. What is there to like about him anyway. The story could easily progress without him. Heck, he might never make an appearance in Claymore part 2, and nobody would care!
samurai89
02-14-2008, 05:48 AM
Arent you a bit cruel there? True he is a annoying stupid brat but without him Clare would of awakened a long time ago.
lsumd2011
02-14-2008, 07:40 AM
Yeah, I'd miss him believe it or not. Despite the fact that he's a total crybaby, the crying is due to his deep love of Clare, who he did save from awakening. And despite all that crying, he isn't a coward. I mean he fought Ophelia to protect Clare despite knowing he can't beat her, he even offered to be a sacrificial pawn for Clare so she could defeat her. So I mean the boy does have a spine, he just needs to man up a little. One other thing, don't forget that in the flashbacks with Teressa, Clare cried as much as Raki did. So if crybaby Clare can grow up to be a total badass, then crybaby Raki can do the same. Not saying that'll happen mind you, just hoping it will, namely because I can forgive Raki for being a crier pre-timeskip due to his age, but if that man is still shedding tears at a drop of a hat now, well he'll just need to either die slowly and horribly or man up in a hurry.
fullmetaljacket
02-15-2008, 11:10 PM
this man speaks the truth, besides without Raki who would Clare look for?
Scorpio-Girl
02-16-2008, 12:46 AM
Teresa's..... long lost family.....? *grasps at straws* >.<
Do Claymores even have family? o.O
SilentBuddhist
02-16-2008, 12:52 AM
>.<
I bet they do...I mean, Ophelia, that homicidal *****, she went crazy because her brother died >.>
Vote Teresa, for those of you who haven't!
lololol
Crack monkey raid.
*imitates noob again*
:spam:
*cough* Well, at the very least Raki is there to serve as Clare's sheath(Samurai X reference). Without him Clare may have awakened, so he does have his good traits, however lacking they may be. Whether or not he'll become a badass swordsman though, is debatable. He certainly can't become a Claymore, I mean after all, if he DOES become a great swordsman, he can be something of a ray of hope for humans, though a threat to the Organization and their dirty business. With raki as a human who can kill yoma, and being that the Organization relies on the humans to give them their money, Raki may actually threaten the Organization and their business if he's capable of killing yoma on his own.
P.S. I'll say it again, VOTE TERESA!!
Scorpio-Girl
02-16-2008, 12:55 AM
If he becomes a skilled swordsman AND a claymore, he may get himself a new sword move like what the others have..
Anyhow Raki's character screams Self-Sacrifice.. one way or the other.
SB... you spammer.. o.O
Despite how much people seem to hate him Rakis always been my favorite character simpily because most kids his age would go insane after living through all that ****
im willing to place a bet that he already has gone insane from living with ABs for seven years, if he's still alive that is.
shonenshojo
02-16-2008, 01:04 AM
Despite how much people seem to hate him Rakis always been my favorite character simpily because most kids his age would go insane after living through all that ****
That is still not a good excuse to be...an annoying brat.
Yes, I was being cruel since he's not needed anymore. Clare's probably strong enough now without him and awakening. She's also still searching for Priscilla for some of you that forgot. Raki is just another character which Clare cares less about than finding/killing Priscilla.
SilentBuddhist
02-16-2008, 01:04 AM
If he becomes a skilled swordsman AND a claymore, he may get himself a new sword move like what the others have..
Anyhow Raki's character screams Self-Sacrifice.. one way or the other.
SB... you spammer.. o.O
:spam:
Despite how much people seem to hate him Rakis always been my favorite character simpily because most kids his age would go insane after living through all that ****
Hmm...I'm guessing he'd be around 13 or 14. Like I said, he has a couple good traits, but if he can stop crying I'd like him a little more :p Otherwise, meh, Raki is Raki >_>
Oh but btw most kids his age, like Clare for instance, had the same kind of trauma. Claymore is a tragic world...
*is a Miria fan*
Scorpio-Girl
02-16-2008, 01:04 AM
No, they're probably having tea and biscuits.
And Ryu, in the Claymore world.. he isn't that messed up. Clare went through the same thing with the Yoma experiences when she was younger..
I was thinking more like 12-14 they should really clear the ages up
And Ryu, in the Claymore world.. he isn't that messed up. Clare went through the same thing with the Yoma experiences when she was younger..
Yeah but Clare can do things to redempt for her past while Rakis still weak and unabel to do anything, don't you think that would make him feel pretty bad
SilentBuddhist
02-16-2008, 01:08 AM
On a side note, Rafaela must be at least 40 >_> Miria, maybe in her late 20's or early 30's. Clare I'm guessing should be in her mid 20's. Helen and Deneve, same.
>.<
Back on Raki topic, he better know that Pris and Isley are ABs...if not, I must say he is quite stupid...>_>"
But something tells me, he still doesn't know >.<
shonenshojo
02-16-2008, 01:11 AM
I was thinking more like 12-14 they should really clear the ages up
Yeah but Clare can do things to redempt for her past while Rakis still weak and unabel to do anything, don't you think that would make him feel pretty bad
Actually he had it easier than Clare. Clare was taken by Yoma after they probably killed her family, and then saved by Teresa. Who, gets killed before her eyes while trying to save her/keep her away from harm.
Raki's family just got killed and he was taken in by Clare.
Scorpio-Girl
02-16-2008, 01:12 AM
Yeah but Clare can do things to redempt for her past while Rakis still weak and unabel to do anything, don't you think that would make him feel pretty bad
Yeah, but clinging onto Clare and risking both of their lives doesn't do him any favours.. We'll see if he can turn the weaknesses around now with the swordfighting etc.
In this manga, it's like survival of the fittest. It's no place for a guy like Raki. Again, he may be able to turn that around, just about.. imo.
I think Gal's my favourite and Isley.. ^.^
if raki didn't know about Them it could lead to some funny situations! such as----cannibalism! (http://san.pengguo.com/index.php?mode=view&view=85)
Well he is beuing trained by a first genberation Claymore although I doubt he'll become one, as Scorps said He'd be best suited as the one human out there fighting Yoma.
SilentBuddhist
02-16-2008, 01:17 AM
if raki didn't know about Them it could lead to some funny situations! such as----cannibalism! (http://san.pengguo.com/index.php?mode=view&view=85)
LOL @ nope :lol:
And wait, I was the one who said Raki would be the one ray of hope for humans if he didn't become a Claymore, which he honestly shouldn't! :spam:
Okay then you want a cookie or something?
Anyhow you two are too much alike
SilentBuddhist
02-16-2008, 01:38 AM
I want teh credit!!!!ELEVEN11!!
>.<
And I don't know what makes me and SG alike...I'm a Miria fan, she likes Galatea...>.>
fullmetaljacket
02-16-2008, 09:55 PM
looking and seeing everyone hatin' on Raki, harsh man harsh
he's gotta be stronger because our crybaby this time round is Clarice
though for a little kid back in the Ophelia story- only time I thought Raki was cool
samurai89
02-16-2008, 11:28 PM
looking and seeing everyone hatin' on Raki, harsh man harsh
he's gotta be stronger because our crybaby this time round is Clarice
though for a little kid back in the Ophelia story- only time I thought Raki was cool
I think everyone's forgotten about that. It is the only proof that Raki can man up and get a backbone
lsumd2011
02-17-2008, 03:52 PM
Well that and the nut shot he gave Cid.
samurai89
02-17-2008, 08:19 PM
Well that and the nut shot he gave Cid.
Serves him right for kissing Raki's lover.
lsumd2011
02-17-2008, 10:45 PM
Ya know....it would be funny if after this fight with Agatha, Cid gives Clare another kiss and Raki shows up and kicks him in the balls again. I think it would be a good way to reintroduce him.
fullmetaljacket
02-19-2008, 01:21 AM
ya, I didn't lurk the forums much before though I have been with onemanga since it only had about 10 different mangas on the entire site and the background was white, so reading back on the post about how much people hate Raki surprised me. I mean he could come back as a complete Badass and have not redeemed himself- people would still hate him.
Mrdelta
02-19-2008, 02:56 AM
its still going to be a while before we see him again though. I mean even if he is wondering around looking for Clare, he has less information then the organization. this fight is going to be a big beacon though, mysterious claymores save the big claymore hating town? might as well have a huge neon sign reading "Clare was here" installed.
around
02-19-2008, 03:41 AM
ya, I didn't lurk the forums much before though I have been with onemanga since it only had about 10 different mangas on the entire site and the background was white, so reading back on the post about how much people hate Raki surprised me. I mean he could come back as a complete Badass and have not redeemed himself- people would still hate him.
i love Raki, but unless he becomes a Claymore or Awakened Being theres absolutly no way hel ever be "Badass" in this manga no matter how much training he gets.
lsumd2011
02-19-2008, 09:12 AM
i love Raki, but unless he becomes a Claymore or Awakened Being theres absolutely no way he'll ever be "Badass" in this manga no matter how much training he gets.
Like I always say in the Naruto forums, "Plot-protection no jutsu PWNS all." If the writer wants to turn Raki into a badass, then by Isley's awakened left testicle, Raki will be a badass, human, claymore, or otherwise.
ghassassin
02-19-2008, 04:51 PM
I've read some 3 volumes of Claymore and by the looks of it, Raki is the most annoying thing I've ever seen. Just his appearance makes me close the page. I just wished he died with Clare back then.
samurai89
02-19-2008, 05:52 PM
I've read some 3 volumes of Claymore and by the looks of it, Raki is the most annoying thing I've ever seen. Just his appearance makes me close the page. I just wished he died with Clare back then.
Back when? Died where?
ghassassin
02-19-2008, 06:04 PM
Back when Clare was turning into a yoma and Galk (or whatever that soldier's name is) was chopping her off.
Now that I'm on volume 6, Raki is getting on my nerves. Little Clare was much better. At least she kept her mouth shut.
Dantrag
02-19-2008, 08:28 PM
Well you might want to brace yourself if your going to watch the claymore anime (If you haven't already). Raki's annoyance factor gets a x1000-multiplier in the last episodes :D
samurai89
02-21-2008, 11:39 PM
Heeeeyyyyy your being too easy on him
raptorfalcon
02-23-2008, 02:14 AM
LOL I see Raki doesn't have a lot of fans. Honestly, I like the kid. if it wasn't for him Clare would have awakened and he did "try" to help clare when ophelia did her thing. Of course, the crying HAS to go.
Somehow I think he is still with Isley and Priscila. He's probably been learning swordsmanship all these years from Isley and will show up as a strong human.
As for him turning into a claymore, I think it is quite possible. If it happens I just want him to die though. Maybe he'll be a general on Priscilas's side until clare comes at which point he will die trying to save her or something along those lines.
arjay2813
02-23-2008, 05:13 AM
i dont dislike him, but he's not my fave by any means. i hope he's a better char when he finally is brought back
mangaman532
02-25-2008, 03:47 PM
Oh god I lol'd, I lol'd hard
personally I think he will be badass, maybe not on the levels of the claymores but still he can't leave that long and still be a whiny crying little brat.
Well, he could still be a whiny, crybaby.... he just may have matured in body, not in mind. he was pretty good against ophelia (although he really got his *** kicked and got in the way.) We have to say that he isnt as bad as in the beginning, because he is learning from Isley, whos a real hard ***. who knows:D
methaniel
02-25-2008, 11:32 PM
Now, since Raki is with Isley, he's getting better for me (before he was just an hindrance). But I doubt a mere human can be capable of being srtong enough for fighting against Claymore, Yoma or Awaken Beings, even trained by an Abyssal one...
But I would like to see him again (though it won't be soon, cause that mean that would be when Claire encounter Priscille, and then Raki learn the truth...meeeh)
samurai89
02-26-2008, 01:44 AM
Im just curious to how far Raki's relationship with Pricila has gone
Phantasm
02-26-2008, 01:54 AM
Maybe Raki's a less bishounen-looking version of Isley -- six-pack, first-class sword-swinging abilities, and a bag of guts chips. It would be amusing, and rather ironic, if he became a fan-favorite after his re-emerging in the series.
If he became half-yoma, I'm not sure he could do much. But he is being trained by Isley so you never know. Perhaps Isley's just using him; The Man of the North is rather "cunning" after all.
I think I would cry if he remained the same little boy. And after seven years he must be in his late teens if not early twenty's. What do you think?
Levonze
02-26-2008, 04:42 AM
Ugh I want Raki dead so bad, I mean he doesn't really even have a reason to be there.
Sether
02-26-2008, 11:41 PM
I don't like Raki at all. As it has been said he's a crybaby.
I like the idea of him dying, all the other ideas have been stated after all.
But if he does come back he better not be so attached to Clare, I mean, come on. He always clings to her, it's a sickening form of puppy love.
Though the idea of Raki becoming a Claymore would be good, as long as he was on Prissy's and Isley's side. If he went to the Black Coats or the Organization I'd die.
wany1981
03-03-2008, 11:27 PM
No.... Why is the Raki tread on the second page? no body love raki anymore? anyways here is a bump back to the first page you go. Hopefuly we get to see the newly all powerful, all buffed up, all handsome, all Seductive you before scene 90. May you get all the claymore girls and rule the claymore world!
shonenshojo
03-03-2008, 11:33 PM
Why?...There is no way that Raki is going to be handsome, perfect and seductive. He's more of the crybaby type that runs away when things get tough. There is a chance that the change may be better, like he gets sword skills, but there is no way that he's going to be buffed.-_-"
wany1981
03-03-2008, 11:45 PM
Jeez i am soooo tempted right now to try to pull out a Terminator picture and give it a Raki head
Evilminion18
03-03-2008, 11:49 PM
Please don't... I'll give you cookies
Now then a picture of Isley and Prissy roasting Raki over an open fire is much more appealing.
I bet Prissy would really think Raki smells good at that point.
wany1981
03-03-2008, 11:53 PM
Now then a picture of Isley and Prissy roasting Raki over an open fire is much more appealing.
I bet Prissy would really think Raki smells good at that point.
I have seen a picture like that before. Someone already made a picture give me a few days i will try to dig it out.
Playmore
03-03-2008, 11:54 PM
no.. I think Raki waking up in bed and screaming in pain... all covered in blood.. with Pris above him and looking into his eyes with his guts in his mouth...
that image would satisfy me :)
Tekkaman Saber
03-04-2008, 12:01 AM
Ok am i the only person who's intrigued about what a half human, half awoken being would be like. kekekekeke would love to see claires reaction if Priscilla and Raki end up as a couple :devil:
Evilminion18
03-04-2008, 12:06 AM
Well you will see what 1/4 of the awakened being Teresa would have been, another way for Raki to die... hehehe
I could see Raki and Prissy I mean he must have gotten so lonely during those seven years given up hope and well Prissy seems like a nice girl so one thing leads to another....
shonenshojo
03-04-2008, 12:09 AM
Ok am i the only person who's intrigued about what a half human, half awoken being would be like. kekekekeke would love to see claires reaction if Priscilla and Raki end up as a couple :devil:
The chance is unlikely...I would want to see how Priscilla reacts to Raki and Clare being a couple too...She might find a reason to hate Clare even more that way. Though I don't think she really hates HER right now. Raki getting roasted above a fire is a pretty good idea.:p
NorthernSky
03-04-2008, 01:00 PM
Ok am i the only person who's intrigued about what a half human, half awoken being would be like. kekekekeke would love to see claires reaction if Priscilla and Raki end up as a couple :devil:
Hm, I see their relationship being more brother-sister like. Anyway, it ensures some drama when Clare & Priscilla finally face off.
Also, there's still the possibility that Raki isn't traveling with Isley and Priscilla anymore...knowing him he'd completely freak out after hearing the rumors of the battle of the north and start searching for her.
Concerning the Raki hate, I think it's the Animes fault. His voice actor was pretty annoying. ><
Tekkaman Saber
03-04-2008, 01:14 PM
Evidence that voice actors in subs can be just as bad as certain dubs mwahahahahahaha
To be honest i cannot understand either why so many people hate Raki, maybe its because they know that if they was in the same situation as him that they would act similar?
fullmetaljacket
03-04-2008, 01:35 PM
Evidence that voice actors in subs can be just as bad as certain dubs mwahahahahahaha
To be honest i cannot understand either why so many people hate Raki, maybe its because they know that if they was in the same situation as him that they would act similar?
Or worse, having never watched the anime I don't have a annoying voice for raki when I read and he has lasted longer in a world he doesn't belong in then any other human besides the (maybe humans) watchers. concerning the crybaby that leaves when the **** hits the fan, how is that Raki? it's been repeatedly shown he Doesn't leave, in example the Ophelia incident. Everyone stuck on first impressions. I don't care if you like raki or not but don't spew stupid when you bash him
Tekkaman Saber
03-04-2008, 01:37 PM
Thankyou, the Claymore world is a world where no human should have to live in, it's only natural that people would be scared especially a child who is in his early teens after finding out that his own brother is really a flesh eating monster.
If you was in Rakis situation can you honestly say that you would of not acted like him?
NorthernSky
03-04-2008, 01:48 PM
I don't think anyone can say that....as people have said before, considering his age it's remarkable what he's achieved. Also his resilience to the all the stuff that has happened to him (parents eaten in front of you, brother yoma) is pretty amazing. I seriously doubt that most stay as cheerful as him after that. ><
But like in most shonen series, the weak (and non-fighter) characters get the most hate.
lsumd2011
03-05-2008, 07:51 AM
I don't think anyone can say that....as people have said before, considering his age it's remarkable what he's achieved. Also his resilience to the all the stuff that has happened to him (parents eaten in front of you, brother yoma) is pretty amazing. I seriously doubt that most stay as cheerful as him after that. ><
But like in most shonen series, the weak (and non-fighter) characters get the most hate.
True dat. Truth be told Raki is most definitely not a coward. I mean in Rabona not only did he put his *** on the line to give Clare her claymore so she could kick yoma but, but he also duked it out with Cid twice to defend her or her honor. (and nut shotted him once for kissing Clare) He also took on Ophelia to defend Clare, who he had to damn well know he couldn't beat and even offered himself up as a sacrificial pawn in order for Clare to survive the fight. For a 12/13 year that is some serious testiculars. His only major character flaw is that the boy cries at the drop of a hat, though truth be told he normally has pretty good reason to when he does. Honestly I think the reason Raki is so hated is that a guy crying like that all the time is really seen as pusified, so people dislike him for it.
bluecookie
03-08-2008, 04:24 AM
Well in chinease forums ,they all call Raki "junk" ,one is because he is useless and also the chinease prononciation of raki is "junk" (poor boy).
I really hope that he will be much more stronger than 7 years ago , as strong as he could defeat a yoma alone ,but I don't know what has he done during 7 years ...
draku07
03-09-2008, 12:38 PM
OMG! is RAKI this interesting? im betting that anyone reading this thread is somewhat pissed...hed best be left dead than trained by isley...but i realized one thing after 78 chapters of claymore, RAKI is a key role in the story...if he's not here then, claymore is not that interesting at all...IMO
ALL HAIL RAKI! ALL HELL RAKI! ALL HAIL RAKI! ALL HELL RAKI!
Tekkaman Saber
03-09-2008, 11:33 PM
Raki isn't anymore useless than the rest of the human race.
lsumd2011
03-09-2008, 11:36 PM
Hehe, unfortunately that is not saying much. About the only thing humans have managed to do in the claymore world is suck and die. (and yes, I knew you were being sarcastic)
Tekkaman Saber
03-09-2008, 11:39 PM
Actually i was being serious :lol:
In claymore The human race seems to be only good for a few things.
1) a decoy (incase a yoma is after you.)
2) dinner (thats if you are a yoma)
3) a source of income (thats if you are a claymore)
To be honest i Don't think i have saw Raki do anything that any of the other human characters haven't already done.
Correction he hasn't died........ yet :lol:
shonenshojo
03-10-2008, 12:16 AM
Actually i was being serious :lol:
In claymore The human race seems to be only good for a few things.
1) a decoy (incase a yoma is after you.)
2) dinner (thats if you are a yoma)
3) a source of income (thats if you are a claymore)
To be honest i Don't think i have saw Raki do anything that any of the other human characters haven't already done.
Correction he hasn't died........ yet :lol:
That is something most of us are hopeful for in the near future. :lol:
All that we have seen Raki do is sit by the sidelines and watch, and on rare occurrences try to attack a Yoma. Though he has never really helped Clare as she fights since he's too weak.
So Raki is way more useless than any other human that I've seen so far. Some of the soldiers even inflict damage at times.
Evilminion18
03-10-2008, 12:22 AM
Well for some people Raki is useful like Clare will have uses for him... some time in the future and well I have a feeling Prissy has been making use of him for the past seven years...
lsumd2011
03-10-2008, 12:51 AM
Well I still have my hopes for Raki. We've yet to see him post-timeskip and I am actually looking forward to seeing what seven years of training and living with Isley and Priscilla has had on him.
Evilminion18
03-10-2008, 02:27 AM
Even if he comes back as a trained swordsman it won't make much of a diffrence seeing how a normal human is worthless against an awakened being, doesn't really matter in the end.
Now if he still doesn't know that Prissy and Isley are awaken beings after the timeskip then I might be a little annoyed with him.
Oink McOink
03-10-2008, 02:38 AM
Turned to a Male claymore maybe would give Raki some importance in the claymore world. I know male claymores aren't made anymore but Isley was one before and he might know the secrets of how it is done. Plus I think Raki has great determination so he wouldn't mistakenly awaken like the other males.
Assuming that Raki is still with Isley and alive.
limetime
03-10-2008, 03:37 AM
silentbuddhist, I just want you to know that because of your posts about Raki, I have fallen out of my chair laughing. uncontrollably. you better pay me insurance if I broke anything lol.
I'm hoping Raki doesn't hang around that much longer, but I still wanna get a glimpse of him. I don't think it's going to be soon though. The fight with the awakened being still has to finish. :P
btw, to get a male claymore, don't you still need to be 1. at least young 2. have some part of yoma in you?
xana1
03-15-2008, 01:07 AM
I think Raki has to die, he will just give problems to Clare, I even believe that after seven years with Priscilla and Isley he forgot abou Clare, or think she died, and when she return he will turn his back on her! In the end I think Miria and the others will kill Raki, for the sake of Clare, if he turns against her they don't even think twice! So Raki is as good as dead, he just exists to make you feel sick!
shonenshojo
03-15-2008, 01:12 AM
...this describes Raki way better than I ever can...
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/673/uselessrakirn8.jpg
Everybody here has thinks he has to die. He hasn't been useful in the least. There might be some changes now after the timeskip, but his general personality will probably not change too much.
Tekkaman Saber
03-15-2008, 01:14 AM
No contribution i guess trying to fight the number 5 claymore makes him useless then.
Seriously though he's no mor euseless than me or you would be if we was in his shoes.
shonenshojo
03-15-2008, 01:19 AM
No contribution i guess trying to fight the number 5 claymore makes him useless then.
Seriously though he's no mor euseless than me or you would be if we was in his shoes.
True, but compared to everyone else in Claymore he is weak. Trying to fight the number 5 Claymore does make him useless because he just gets in the way. If he actually did manage to get stronger and be somewhat useful, then I would respect him more.
SaroVati
03-15-2008, 05:33 AM
Lol how would he get stronger when he doesen't become a Claymore? This isn't like a mix of Bleach + Claymore and he can just get Shinigami powers buddy. Humans will never cross the strength gap you get when you turn into a Claymore. Even the best swordsman in the Claymore World will get crushed by a normal Yoma. I really don't think a swordsman is trained to defend against flying fingers, super-human speed, and the ability to blend in to environment and sneak attack you. Then add in the fact that he is still a teen (he was like 11 when he attempted to fight Ophelia) and you have a problem eh? When you were in Elementary, I don't think you tried to fight somebody who could swing a sword so fast you couldn't see it or anything related to that. I'm not saying he's acctually really useful, its just even if he tried, he can't gain enough power to be recognized.
xana1
03-15-2008, 02:58 PM
I think Raki is more powerful now, in terms of swordship, he train with Isley, but I don't think he will do much of a thing, just maybe kick some Yoma ***, and get in the way, you know Clare's way!
Chibitea
03-15-2008, 10:09 PM
Well we're all assuming that raki has stayed in the "good side" .. but what if after all the training and stuff raki realized (or maybe Isley told him) that as a human he would never be able to "protect" Clare and he agreed to become not exactly a claymore but more of an awaken being ...something like the new Rigardo to Isley .. i mean after all raki was just a kid so it wouldn't be that hard for Isley to convince him to do it .. and even less difficult if he used Clare as the excuse for Raki to get more "Powerful"...it would be sad .. but i think it's another possibility... what do u think ?
SaroVati
03-16-2008, 12:49 AM
Lol it might work, but how would Raki become an Awakened Being without first being a Claymore?
Chibitea
03-16-2008, 01:13 AM
What i meant when i said without being a claymore is without going through all the training the claymores do and if Isley did that experiment with him raki would not be a claymore cause he wasn't "made" by the org ..
lsumd2011
03-16-2008, 02:32 AM
Well as long as he became a hybrid he would be a claymore, whether made by the organization's hands or no. That happening has been discussed off and on a couple times and the general community consensus is that its a possibility something like that will happen, but the odds are low. Raki is kinda the token love interest character in Claymore and the odds are that he'll just end up staying that way. The primary contribution he is probably going to make post-timeskip is his relationship with Clare coming into conflict with his relationship with Priscilla and Isley. Though I do have to admit it would be quite humorus if Raki came back as a Claymore or AB. I'd just laugh at all the Raki hatters having WTF moments when he starts tearing people new *******s left and right.
SaroVati
03-16-2008, 04:29 AM
Lol the thought of Raki being an AB isn't too stretched for me, but I doubt it will happen. If it did however, Raki would see Clare, BIG reunion, then he stabs her xD.
asilovesblack
03-16-2008, 03:37 PM
damn this gay kid... he gets to have a thread??? and even quite a lot of replies and views!!! even more than Teresa's thread!!! What's happening here?! I don't see Raki in the OM Character Battle thingy! How come he gets to have attention???
he's a crybaby, gay, and i think he symbolizes the ONLY flaw in Yagi's otherwise perfectly brilliant storyline.
i apologize to Raki fans, but i really think he should die. if i were more generous, i'd have him out of the story and throw him in some shabby inn as a cook instead of just killing him. Clare would then trip, get a huge bump on the head and forget all about the damn boy. Then she'd have more time getting stronger for Teresa!
samurai89
03-16-2008, 03:40 PM
Im wondering what could happen if Raki meets up with Clare but with Priscilla by his side along with Isley
samurai89
03-16-2008, 03:42 PM
And to the guy above....It's because we hate him so much that hes getting attention...And if he was in the Character battle he would not be voted on anyway.
EightySix
03-16-2008, 03:48 PM
well think of it this way...if it werent for raki the events leading up to claire becoming stronger from meeting illena and from claire undoing her awakening would not happen..plus i reckon he will play a huge part in the final epic claire vs priscilla battle...hope he dies though...so frickin useless. honestly who gets kidnapped by slave traders when ur told to stay in town and wait. wot a dumbarse. he'd better get stronger from training with isley or else hes going to be another burden in upcoming battles.
xana1
03-16-2008, 06:23 PM
I think that Miria&co will kill Raki, I hope that, or maybe he will sacrifice himself for Priscilla! It would be cool if he was like a Claymore (something close to it) so that he could fight with Clare and die in the end, but I think that is impossible! Really I just want to see Raki dead, I hate him, how he dies I really don't care (just hope there's lots of blood) and that he doesn't cause trouble to Clare and the others!
Kurapika
03-16-2008, 06:30 PM
Well I actually like Raki, hes one of my fav characters, he is to me the single most important character behind claire. Sure Raki isnt strong and sure he crys but he was a kid against demons and demonhumans what do you expect?you'd all fail too against those odds, so your only looking down on him cuz hes normal which isnt really fair.
plus, this is important, most humans dont view claymores as humans but as demons as well but Raki does which is important, sure claymores themselfs (some of them at least) view themselfs as human but its important for a normal human to see them as human too.
And if it wernt for Raki Clarie would have awaken by now, remember the time he stopped her? the story woulda sucked if he wasnt there. so i cant understand why people hate a character just cuz hes a normal human child, doesnt seem fair to me.
Chibitea
03-17-2008, 12:30 AM
Exactly ... i think Raki represents the Humanity (by this i mean the feelings and all that not the human kind as a whole lol ) in claymore i mean he's like a fish out of the water in that world and even when everyone just sees claire based on what they have heard about Claymores (i mean in the first scene) Raki sees her as just a normal girl ...i think that the innocence of his character may be annoing most of the time but at the same time it helps to define the rest of the characters as well.... and he's not useless i mean he TRIED to fight ophelia and she even recognized that the kid had courage ..but what is a kid gonna do against a number 4 ranked claymore ? i think he won that fight just for the fact that he survived lol ...about his appereance after the 7 years one thing i think it's certain Raki will be more powerful than before maybe as an AB/Claymore kinda thing , maybe as a skilled Swordman ....Maybe as Prisci's Boyfriend :lol: (Clare's face would be priceless ) but i think if he's still alive he'll redeem himself this time:) And i'm not a Raki fan it's just that i don't think as most of the people do that he's useless ..
To put it in shorter words ...Raki is to Claymore ..what Rock Okajima is to Black Lagoon ...i think u'll agree if u have read both mangas ...
BTW Teresa is losing by a big difference right now... so if u haven't yet ..go vote !
EightySix
03-17-2008, 02:04 AM
no..i dont think raki is the only human who views claymores are humans. if u remember, when teresa came into town and killed a yoma for free, the townspeople were really happy...most of the time after a yoma is killed, they look real worried coz the fee is so high so i reckon that if teresa had continued on killing yoma for free, their reputation as being monsters will be destroyed ...they were only monsters to the townspeople coz of the huge fee they charged.
by the way that knight of rabona whatshisname also views clare as human. as for ophelia recognizing his courage? lol she so frickin evil...she loves her little games anything to torture..if she had killed raki off right from the start then it wouldnt matter if clare put her legs back on or not...
xana1
03-17-2008, 02:04 PM
One thing, is not Rabona is Labona, the translation is wrong (Chapter 74, page 04 in the manga, go see). As for Raki I really don't like him, and there's nothing I can do, and after the end of the anime I started to hate him even more, I just hope he doens't do that kind of stuff in the manga, and really if it happens that he dies in the manga, that would do Clare more anger, therefore more action in the end xD
Tekkaman Saber
03-17-2008, 02:51 PM
damn this gay kid... he gets to have a thread??? and even quite a lot of replies and views!!! even more than Teresa's thread!!! What's happening here?! I don't see Raki in the OM Character Battle thingy! How come he gets to have attention???
he's a crybaby, gay, and i think he symbolizes the ONLY flaw in Yagi's otherwise perfectly brilliant storyline.
i apologize to Raki fans, but i really think he should die. if i were more generous, i'd have him out of the story and throw him in some shabby inn as a cook instead of just killing him. Clare would then trip, get a huge bump on the head and forget all about the damn boy. Then she'd have more time getting stronger for Teresa!
Just a statement.
If you was in Rakis shoes i bet you would of acted the same as him. Just like any other normal person would.
I don't think Raki is gay so far the only person he has kissed has been claire......... Unless Claire has been secretly a dude all of this time....... Oh i forgot the organisation does not make MALE CLAYMORES anymore.
Raki is not gay end of discussion and even if he was whats wrong with gay people alot of them are nice people.
Please take your homophobic comments out of the forum.
waterbride
03-17-2008, 10:10 PM
I don't mind Raki. He only cries because he's human. I'm glad he's there for Clare.
But I've just started reading the post-time-skip arc, and if Raki has still not figured out that Priscilla is an Awakened Being, and he turns out to be loyal to her, etc., then I will be at leisure to hate him. :D
david
03-17-2008, 11:26 PM
Cant blame raki for being useless against all those supernatural, but i think at least he should know his place, i mean if he know he is useless and a burden, would it be smart if he stayed in the holy city, where galatea staying now, and trained into a proper soldier like Gard and Cid before coming with Clare. Worst scenario, raki stopped clare from killing priscillia (which happened in the anime version) and plus pricillia took advantage of that to kill clare (which we would have another new manga where raki will use Clare'sblood to become claymore just like clare using teresha xDD).
Actually raki has become usefull now after being with pricillia, clare could use him as a living-shield against priscillia lmao.
EightySix
03-18-2008, 01:10 AM
not if priscilla loses her mind again in her awakened form...shes mentally unstable so i dont think raki could do much in terms of emotionally affecting her but since we havent seen raki for such a long time, who knows what isley has been doing with him..>_> injecting yoma blood into him ? lol
lsumd2011
03-18-2008, 09:44 AM
Who knows, as it stands right now, Raki could be anything from a Claymore/AB to Priscilla poop. We'll just have to wait and see.
xana1
03-18-2008, 04:18 PM
Ok that theory that of Raki turns in to a Awakened Being or somekind of Claymore is really cool, but Isley (I don't Priscilla's as brains to turn a person in a Claymore) don't have the conditions to do that transformation, and I don't think he knows exactly how to do it! I think that impossible, besides if that happens the story will no longer be funny!
asilovesblack
03-18-2008, 05:01 PM
Just a statement.
If you was in Rakis shoes i bet you would of acted the same as him. Just like any other normal person would.
I don't think Raki is gay so far the only person he has kissed has been claire......... Unless Claire has been secretly a dude all of this time....... Oh i forgot the organisation does not make MALE CLAYMORES anymore.
Raki is not gay end of discussion and even if he was whats wrong with gay people alot of them are nice people.
Please take your homophobic comments out of the forum.
I apologize deeply. it was misunderstanding how i used "gay". In my country telling someone "gay" means he's a crybaby. I'm not homophobic. I'm bisexual myself actually.
and I never said I wouldn't act like raki if I were in his shoes. I would probably have acted exaclty like him. But unfortunately, I'm not in his shoes. And if I were really in his shoes, I'd surely hate myself then as much as I hate him now.
I was only expressing my hate for the kid and didn't and will never involve other people, especially gay people. again it was a very big misunderstanding.
Raki is just so... unbearable. If he were I girl, I would've tolerated the events I found so... untolerable.
Again, I apologize to raki fans. But I still do have the right to post my opnions, do I not?
Krasnij Lis
03-18-2008, 10:24 PM
It seems Raki is the Raiden of the Claymore Fandom. (Metal Gear Solid Fans will know what I mean)
I like the kid. Simply because he's human, and from what I've seen in the manga. He's hardly useless, in fact he's been very useful:
for one, he stopped Clare from Awakening at Rabona
Assisted in Clare's cover in Rabona
Defended Clare (even if half the time he was just getting in the way)
he bought her time against Ophelia acting as a meatshield. He was pretty good at witholding his pain with that.
and so far, we know that he's left those carvings into places he's been. and well, think about it, what can a kid do any more than what he did in the situations he's been in?
Now seven years later, we have yet to know what has happened to him while he was with Isley and Priscilla. Though I can't see him becoming an AB or Claymore, Isley may be an Abyssal One, but he's not a Mad Scientist or a Man In Black. the odds are really low with that. I'd even say impossible.
Though I can see Raki maybe, end up a swordsman of some sort. but Im unsure of his skill if that theory happens.
SilentBuddhist
03-18-2008, 10:46 PM
Well...think of it like this. Raki can't become a Claymore, because of a few reasons.
#1: He's human. What I mean by this is, he is one of the few "main" characters in Claymore that is fully human. Despite Galk and Sid's recent reappearance, they're still only side characters in my eyes. They've shown us though that they are still quite capable of defeating yoma, with teamwork and all that...but anyways, back to Raki, with Isley training him for 7 years, Raki, when he reappears, should be quite powerful, maybe enough to fight off a couple yoma at a time.
That said, he could be, from a human's point of view, humanity's ray of hope. If people learned about him, they wouldn't need to depend on Claymores anymore to kill off yoma. Naturally this would be bad for the Organization, but seeing that they are a shady group to begin with, it would be interesting to see what would happen if they targeted Raki for coming close to ruining their line of work.
#2: It's just waaayyy to clichéd for him to become a Claymore seven years later. There's a fine line between being badass and being just plain boring...since he already has some decent sword experience (more than 7 years of it), we'd be seeing a godmode haven that would be plain old stupid...wiping out ABs singlehandedly, and being a complete rebel against the Org because Isley could have told the kid all these bad things about them (he seems fairly gullible in my eyes, and since he already admires Isley it may not be hard to convince him, if Isley played his cards right), and yada yada yada...
These two points seem to contradict each other I know, first I say him being targeted by the Org would be interesting, and afterwards I say that him rebelling as a Claymore would be dumb...but well, the difference between the two is this: if he stays human, maybe going from town to town killing yoma, as a human, the Org would see him as a threat to their business perhaps, and try and find a way to silence him. Whereas the latter has Raki attacking the Org, rather than the other way around if he stays human. Raki becoming a Claymore just seems far too godmodish to me, even worse than Alucard from Hellsing. Having a badass character is great and all that, but there's still a fine line for it. Having Raki become a Claymore seems to cross it for me. IMO, the former would be much more interesting, story wise.
Well that, and what knowledge does Isley have to make Raki a Claymore...like Krasnij Lis said, Isley isn't Einstein, and I'm sure creating Claymores is a rocket science of its own, if you get what I mean. Things would NOT add up if Raki appeared as a Claymore.
Krasnij Lis
03-19-2008, 12:19 AM
Nice ideas there, that summed up all my thoughts basically. As a human warrior Raki could fight a regular Yoma or two at once maximum if he turns out highly skilled but theres a flaw there in the idea of him going from town to town killing Yoma, he can't detect them and only the real stupid Yoma would come outta hiding to fight him, besides that at present the wilderness (forests etc) seems a LOT more dangerous than before pieta with Awakened Beings grouping up. and looking at the bigger picture, even if Raki did go from town to town hunting Yoma, the Organisation would worry about him last. From a business perspective, the seven ghosts are a bigger threat to the organization's ideals. They are kind of in a desperate situation at this point.
SilentBuddhist
03-19-2008, 12:30 AM
Yeah, and Raki adding onto that only makes things worse for them. >_> I'd like to see how they deal with him though; whether or not they'll repeal the Iron'clad law of not killing humans, just to deal with him, or if they find a way to try and lure him to an AB and take care of him that way...it would be interesting to see what they can do.
But for the moment, he would probably be last on their hit list, next to Miria & gang, and the Abyssals. Oh, and Galatea too, since she's still alive =P And any other deserters as well, perhaps Irene if she survived, and Raph. Maybe.
And yes, with Raki only being human, he's still at a disadvantage against yoma. #1 He cannot sense yoki, let alone release any of his own, so he can easily be ambushed and 2nd he may not adjust too well to it (unless Isley taught him about adjusting to ambushes, I think it's possible), so at his best chances of coming across a yoma are in the wilderness, such as forests, Pieta'a ruins, wastelands, and if he managed to get there by some random, wild chance, the Org's training grounds. His chances of meeting yoma in a city like Rabona are close to zero. So, even if he becomes a great human warrior, he may not get a lot of action until he meets Clare and the gang.
Krasnij Lis
03-19-2008, 02:17 AM
Well, I do doubt they would change the Iron Clad rule to get rid of Raki, because if they did that, things would only get even worse for them lol. Since they are experts at Manipulation I believe they'd trick him into fighting an Awakened Being or since he's human, to a location the organization know there is a number of enough Yoma to simply outmatch him, i'd like to see him get out of such a situation, and I don't mean going Gary Stu and kicking Yoma ***, but other ways to get out of it, since I believe he's good at that.
Goldie Locks
04-07-2008, 11:12 PM
Well, I do doubt they would change the Iron Clad rule to get rid of Raki, because if they did that, things would only get even worse for them lol. Since they are experts at Manipulation I believe they'd trick him into fighting an Awakened Being or since he's human, to a location the organization know there is a number of enough Yoma to simply outmatch him, i'd like to see him get out of such a situation, and I don't mean going Gary Stu and kicking Yoma ***, but other ways to get out of it, since I believe he's good at that.
yah that wouldnt suprise me one bit. it seems logical to me.
m a weird though by yours truely- i remember the first part when raki met pris and isley. didnt he get tackled by pris someway or something then she slept next to him ..? i dont know if im remembering right but that would be hilarious if raki starts to actually like pris...haha that would be so funny as a twist. :lol: i can see clare going like :eek: omfg ur with that douche of a bag?!?! and raki not understanding....haha i have a messed up mind. :thumbup:
~GL
s2anime
04-09-2008, 10:18 AM
In my opinion I don't think Raki is that BAD as a character. He does have some uses and acts as a emotional anchor for Clare, something I think someone has mention as being a reminder of humanity to Clare or a connection to it. Knowing how Yagi Norihiro likes to mix it up a little I think he'll think of something to do with Raki that maybe none of us can think of...I mean it has been 7 years since the Battle of the North...Add that with training with Isely I really doubt Raki will still be a super emotionally sensitive man...because thats kinda weird in such a dark and tragic world of Claymore (He probably wouldn't survive long if he was...poor naive Raki)
Berserk Fan
04-09-2008, 01:50 PM
Nobody likes Raki. Me included. But i think after this 7 years he should be able to kill at least few Yoma and if not he should just die.
Krasnij Lis
04-09-2008, 06:52 PM
Nobody likes Raki. Me included. But i think after this 7 years he should be able to kill at least few Yoma and if not he should just die.
Nobody likes Raki? i count quite a few people that actually do on this thread alone, with myself included, and yes, i think he could kill a Yoma one on one, two at a time at most (it will be a struggle for him taking on two Yoma at once, they move very fast, and are strong compared to an average human) since he's only human.
Kurapika
04-09-2008, 06:54 PM
^ yup im one of the ones who like him (infact he might just be my fav character, im not sure) and ya im sure he could now take a yomi, but just how much hes advanced i so wanna see. i just really like the human aspect he gives to the series.
SilentBuddhist
04-09-2008, 07:15 PM
Nobody likes Raki. Me included. But i think after this 7 years he should be able to kill at least few Yoma and if not he should just die.
Well..if you check the first post in this thread, you can see a rough estimate of what I predict he'll become after seven years. LOL, he won't become as badass as Guts, but since this is a shounen manga (it's gotta have a cliche or two...>.>) something tells me when we next see him he'll be kicking yoma ***, as a human. Well he won't take on a horde of them, but I expect a few will be tasting his blade and biting the dust. That training with Isley didn't go to waste, I just know it.
sko99
04-09-2008, 07:40 PM
Raki really got on my nerves...
all he ever says and does is 'Noooooo!!! i dont wanna leave you clare!!!!' and he jus stands in the way...whenever that happens, im always yelling at the computer screen going 'just go and die!'
but for a strange reason...i looking forward to meeting him after the time skip...hopefully he wont be that annoying wimp he once was and will go out there to kick some yoma butt...
samurai89
04-09-2008, 11:15 PM
Ye, it would be great if he came back and was no longer an annoying crying brat. Although i still admired him when he was fighting Ophelia
s2anime
04-10-2008, 04:07 AM
Yea I can't really imagine him as an annoying brat after 7 years nor can I imagine him like SB's fanfriction image found on the first page (LOL :lol:) because lets face it....thats way tooo badass xD.
What I can imagine is him keeping his righteous attitude and humanity unless Isely manipulated him into having a twisted mind. He might be on the same level or higher than that of the other humans like Gank ( not sure if thats his name or mistranslation) and Cid and as such able to at least defend against or take on 1~3 Yomas.
samurai89
04-10-2008, 09:09 AM
Yea I can't really imagine him as an annoying brat after 7 years nor can I imagine him like SB's fanfriction image found on the first page (LOL :lol:) because lets face it....thats way tooo badass xD.
What I can imagine is him keeping his righteous attitude and humanity unless Isely manipulated him into having a twisted mind. He might be on the same level or higher than that of the other humans like Gank ( not sure if thats his name or mistranslation) and Cid and as such able to at least defend against or take on 1~3 Yomas.
3 would be too much, i mean he is only human as far as we know. And the dudes name was Galk or Gark i dont know which one is right.
s2anime
04-10-2008, 10:14 AM
3 would be too much, i mean he is only human as far as we know. And the dudes name was Galk or Gark i dont know which one is right.
First off thanks for the correction of names but I do think that 3 would a decent number as he did receive training from Isely the former #1 turned Abysmal one for 7 years. And even Yoma aren't all seeing as when we can see when Prissy totally whopped one in her traumatic childhood. But then again it would be kind of pushing it if it was 3 and I can see where your coming from as Yoma ain't exactly small fry for any HUMAN with Galk(Gark?) armor being pierced like tissue paper...But Hey why not dream eh?
samurai89
04-10-2008, 09:48 PM
First off thanks for the correction of names but I do think that 3 would a decent number as he did receive training from Isely the former #1 turned Abysmal one for 7 years. And even Yoma aren't all seeing as when we can see when Prissy totally whopped one in her traumatic childhood. But then again it would be kind of pushing it if it was 3 and I can see where your coming from as Yoma ain't exactly small fry for any HUMAN with Galk(Gark?) armor being pierced like tissue paper...But Hey why not dream eh?
Im having difficulty seeing Raki take on yoma, but i wonder how he changed through the time skip and Isley's training. I hope that would be in the next chapter.
EightySix
04-11-2008, 12:13 AM
he could take on basic yoma i guess like the ones that attack small villages..but i doubt he could take on the one in rabona the one that hid in the coffin.
Keiichi
04-11-2008, 12:16 AM
The one in Rabona was as strong as any other Yoma, simply more intelligent. It was just portrayed as being a "strong" yoma because Clare was injured and held back by Cid and Galk in the previous fight, and not being able to use her sword. Anyways, I think Raki better do some maturing and some muscle massing, I'm thinking he will look kind of like his brother.
EightySix
04-11-2008, 12:24 AM
eh? i thought the one in rabona was some kinda ancient yoma plus it could shape its fingers as well ...thats pretty different from the normal yoma that just rush at clare and get their heads chopped off..
shonenshojo
04-11-2008, 12:51 AM
No it wasn't ancient, the abyssal's are considered ancient. But that is weak(er) compared to what level Clare's fighting now. Raki still wouldn't be able to take care of some small Yome. A stop-rate swordsman probably only has a small chance taking one down by themselves. Which is why Claymores are hired and are by far superior by what we've seen so far.
I wonder how he will react when he sees claire
Kurapika
04-12-2008, 08:00 PM
Well if his personality hasnt changed he'll run up to her and hug her, if it has he might swing a sword at her ><. i wanna see him soon.
I just found this series last week I liked it but I kept thinking to him, MAN UP and kill some yoma. I with you I just wanna see him alive.
Kurapika
04-12-2008, 08:07 PM
Well he was like 12 if he tried to fight hed die, its understandable for him not to have fought (tho he did try sometimes)
Krasnij Lis
04-12-2008, 08:23 PM
He tried, and succeeded, and I'd say he did quite good against Ophelia, going up against a single digit like he did, then during the gap between then and meeting Isley. He had to survive on his own, i think he'd be toughened up after 7 years.
Kurapika
04-12-2008, 08:29 PM
Ya his struggle with Ophelia was a cool thing to see, thats proof enough that he tries, people need to lay off him imo
Krasnij Lis
04-12-2008, 08:50 PM
yeah, sure he cried about leaving Clare in the earlier chapters, but thats because he lost everything he knew, his family, home, everything, after witnessing a trauma of nearly getting killed by a Yoma. Then apparently was kicked out of his home, and Clare allowed him to go with him, that pretty much makes her the only one (before meeting Isley) he could call family or something. He even called her "Nii-Chan" at the beginning. And that means "big sister" right?
What most people don't realise, if all that happened to you and one person gave you what you lost back. You'd want to protect them. Am I right?
Kurapika
04-12-2008, 08:51 PM
Yes it does, but obviously he didnt veiw her as a sister for long ><
Krasnij Lis
04-12-2008, 08:56 PM
I think he did right up to the point he split up with her after Ophelia's first appearence. I never saw any indication that his view of her changed, besides not calling her "Nii-Chan" but that was because he knew her name by that point.
Chibitea
04-12-2008, 08:58 PM
yeah ..i mean raki tried a lot of times so i think he isn't useless or anything ...he was just a kid !! ....
Now 7 years later ...that's another story ...i hope we get to see him on the next chapter (maybe yagi took his time to introduce raki properly .. maybe ?) ...and i honestly don't think that if they meet again it will be a sister-brother relationship at all xD ....
Krasnij Lis
04-12-2008, 09:34 PM
i doubt it, but it won't be a while until they do meet again, IF they do. who knows what Raki is even like after 7 years of hanging out with Isley and 'cilla
samurai89
04-13-2008, 12:46 PM
I think he did right up to the point he split up with her after Ophelia's first appearence. I never saw any indication that his view of her changed, besides not calling her "Nii-Chan" but that was because he knew her name by that point.
Do sent Nii-Chan mean brother? I thought it was Nee-san
Well looks like Raki is starting to get some respect for once.
Kurapika
04-13-2008, 12:48 PM
Oh yeah it is nee-chan thats sister and nii-chan is brother. but im happy Rakis getting some appriciation, he deserves it, most people woulda snapped after going through what he did
Krasnij Lis
04-13-2008, 01:35 PM
I just followed the translation on the manga page so really i don't know which is which, I don't know japanese. yeah it is nice raki is getting respect for once. No kid his age in the modern world would endure even that Yoma fight at the start without going mad.
Jammerjoint
04-14-2008, 12:11 AM
Raki...just...disappeared.
Kurapika
04-14-2008, 12:12 AM
Uh no he didnt just dissapear it showed why hes not there, he'll come back.
EightySix
04-14-2008, 12:13 AM
Raki...just...disappeared.
lol why did you think he dissapeared?
Krasnij Lis
04-14-2008, 12:39 AM
because he hasn't been seen for somewhat 40 or so chapters? (maybe less)
Kurapika
04-14-2008, 12:40 AM
thats not dissapearing tho, its more or less said why hes not here, if he were in it and all of a sudden vanished then thats dissapearing
EightySix
04-14-2008, 12:44 AM
yea
he first ran from the city got caught by slave traders then ended up in the north and takes refuge with isley and priscilla
so we actually know where he is. hes not dead coz i highly doubt the mangaka would kill him off that easily. He'll likely show up later on with priscilla but at the moment the focus is on the 7 and their preparations for the showdown with priscilla ..
mcslave101
04-14-2008, 01:51 AM
we can only pray that it explains what happened to him sooner or later.
Im having difficulty seeing Raki take on yoma, but i wonder how he changed through the time skip and Isley's training. I hope that would be in the next chapter.
It has been stated that yoma could be killed by non-claymores, like when prisilla or ophelia(one of them, I forget) killed one when it was eating her sister, claymores are needed to sense them while in disguise, and add 7 years under isley's sword....................He could probly kill dumb/normal yoma with little trouble.
methaniel
04-14-2008, 10:16 AM
I agree that being train by Isley, now, Raki may be able to fight against dumb Yoma, or even more powerfull (well, not awaken beings), but I wonder how Isley is gonna make him fight against the Claymores, I mean, there must be a goal for teaching him, not only creating a new ennemy (well, it's a shrimp compare to him but...). I would really like to see what he looks like now, and what hapened (though, I don't care if we don't see what happened during those years...), but it's probably not for some chapters
Pitou
04-14-2008, 01:44 PM
It IS possible that Ishley does not teach Raki to fight in order to use him as a soldier; he may just be keeping Raki around since Priscilla, whom he has declared loyalty to, has taken a shine to him.
And seriously, what was with the Raki bashing? I mean, come on! Every single time something happened, he would do anything he could. Its not like he can swing a really heavy sword in one hand with speed that makes it almost invisible, he IS only human.
His parents and brother got eaten, attacked by multipple yoma, attacked by a psycho-lunatic of a Claymore, then got sold into slavery. Now hes takin up swordsmanship from a guy he just met, so he wont be such a burden. This kid is a freakin champ in my book. And my book is Claymore.
Kurapika
04-14-2008, 02:03 PM
^ good post, i agree i think he only trains him cause she has become attached to him, no other reason, and in order to have the kid survive (making Priscilla happy) he trains him so he doesnt end up killed in a fight (if one happens)
All the raki blasting is uncalled for but WTH is he and isley in the south
todesumnz
04-15-2008, 06:21 AM
I wonder after 7 years is it possible for Raki to see Isley and Priscilla as his family?
Pitou
04-15-2008, 12:32 PM
I think its entirely possible. Raki was with Clare an unknown amount of time (probably just a few months), and 7 years is a long time. However, its also true that absence makes the heart grow fonder, or whatever. In his mind, Raki may have been slowly making Clare more and more amazing.
I also wouldnt be suprised if he looks alot more manly :D
samurai89
04-15-2008, 05:52 PM
The saying is "Absence makes the heart grow fonder". And i think Raki would still love Clare even though he spent 7 years with Priscilla.
Playmore
04-15-2008, 06:06 PM
maybe he is thinking now that Clare has abandoned him after so much years... and want to make her suffer now? :devil:
Or maybe he's thinking that Clare has already died and decide to move on with his life? :)
Those are just other possibilities we didn't think of yet in this thread if I'm not wrong.
Kurapika
04-15-2008, 06:07 PM
Ya i doubt he thinks that, imsure he thinks shes sourching for him and he wont believe she died. hes not that weak minded, his faith in claire is great.
samurai89
04-15-2008, 06:29 PM
I doubt hell think like that as well, but there is the small possibility though.
Kurapika
04-15-2008, 06:31 PM
Well of course theres a possibilty but it wouldnt be a good story devolpment imo, it would kinda be an insult to who raki was and how dedicated to clare he was
samurai89
04-15-2008, 06:53 PM
Well his dedication IS as hard as a boulder. I hope Raki will show up in the next chapter, even though it might only be a page i really want to see him. Then all my speculations and assumptions might be proven right or wrong.
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