CM: [CHARACTER]: Teresa of the Faint Smile

[SilentBuddhist]

Well to start, thanks again Greg for the sub-forums. We won't let you down.

This is basically going to be discussion STRICTLY for Teresa, former #1, and one of, if not the, strongest Claymore of all time. Try and keep the discussion strictly about her.

For example...do you believe that Teresa was incredibly powerful to begin with because of a powerful yoma (not an awakened being) being fused together with her, or was she just one of those "freaks of nature" that will most likely never appear again through the ages? Try and explain why you think so.

That's just an example though...it's kinda hard to discuss a dead character, imo >.<

Well, chat away about Teresa here.

[Tekkaman Saber]

Teresa isn't dead she's just went home with elvis!

Anyway Teresa is one of my favorite characters in Claymore and it actually shocked me when she died, I guess its a curse i have i allways seem to like the soon to be martys.

[MacenKrace]

Teresa isn't dead she's just went hoime with elvis!

Anyway Teresa is one of my favorite characters in Claymore and it actually hocked me when she died, I guess its a curse i have i allways seem to like the soon to be martys.

That's just spam.... Anyway I believe Teressa is the best creation ever since the organization was created. It may have to do with the compatibility between her body and the youma used to create her but that can't be very certain.

[Tekkaman Saber]

I apologise if you see it as spam but if you break it down you will find that the first part of the post is a joke to lighten the mood and the second is my opinion about her being killed.
If the post is spam i will happilly edit it or let the mods remove it.

I remember it being mentioned that teresas only asset was her smile and her ability to read Yoma aura.
http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/20/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/20/15/
I disagree with you that teresa is the organisations best creation because know that they have the ability to control an awoken being who is supposedly on par with an abbysmal one would mean that this creature is more of a success that teresa.

[SilentBuddhist]

That's just spam....

Macen, be nice.

Anyways, back when Teresa was still a trainee the Organization was just grabbing Alicia and Beth for the soul link expiriment. Last time, when it was Raphaela and Luciela, the soul link ended terribly. They never mastered the soul link during Teresa's time.

But I somewhat agree with Tekka. I believe that a "super" yoma wasn't the reason Teresa was so powerful, or even the fusion going well. Teresa was, imo, that mircale of nature that came once in a lifetime, and will unlikely ever appear again. It was nature that created Teresa, not the Organization. The soul link ability the twins have is something the Organization created, so quite possibly they are the Organization's best work. That's not saying Alicia/Beth > Teresa though.

[Tekkaman Saber]

I think it would be interesting if the mangaka did an alternate story that could play out what would be happening know if Priscilla hadn't of won against of her.
Would Teresa of been allowed to go free? i don't think that would of been likely but it would be interesting to see what efect it would of had on the world.

[Playmore]

For example...do you believe that Teresa was incredibly powerful to begin with because of a powerful yoma (not an awakened being) being fused together with her, or was she just one of those "freaks of nature" that will most likely never appear again through the ages? Try and explain why you think so.



-'How dare you treat our Teresa a freak of nature!!!!!!'

*Swing my bloodthirsty claymore high above my head and slash SilentBuddhist in 2.....*

:devil:

It was probably a perfect fusion/symbiosis, something they couldn't manage to do again if not we would see more warrior with the same fighting style. To see Teresa fighting all other single digits without even using a lot of yoki was amazing.
I'm sure the final result was a total surprise for the organisation at that time.

[MacenKrace]

I apologise if you see it as spam but if you break it down you will find that the first part of the post is a joke to lighten the mood and the second is my opinion about her being killed.
If the post is spam i will happilly edit it or let the mods remove it.

I remember it being mentioned that teresas only asset was her smile and her ability to read Yoma aura.
http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/20/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/20/15/
I disagree with you that teresa is the organisations best creation because know that they have the ability to control an awoken being who is supposedly on par with an abbysmal one would mean that this creature is more of a success that teresa.

You simply can't compare Teressa with Alica or anyone else. This is just insanity. I mean her power wasn't even estimated properly and you want to say she wasn't the best ever? Killing the former awakened number 1 who was demoted, using 10% to deflect Priscilla's 80% youki. These are the proof that Teressa was the best ever.

[Tekkaman Saber]

I admit that teresa is impressive but i feel that it is not because of anything that the organisation has done otherwise they would of mimiced the conditions to make sure that they have many more warriors who are at teresas level., whereas Alicia Is the way she is because of what the organisation has done and the organisation is probably in the process of makeing more if they are as devious as i think they are.

[wany1981]

Teresa is one girl that organization have the abolustly wrong estimate.

She can decimate a Sub abysall Rosemary with only 10% release and make Rosemary who is a former no.1 Awaken being call her a monster. (just look at how she just torn of a arm of rosemary without releasing her power.) And she finished the fight without a scartch!

She can obligerate a nearly fully released Pricila with only 10% release! Remeber that fight the no.2 to no.4 claymore couldn't even try to interfer.

Like Prisila who we haven't even seen her get truly into a real even foot fight. We never really see Teresa fight seriously at all. There is no doubt in our mind at all that a fully angry and serious Teresa near full release can beat any abysall into a pulp.

If she had awakened she will probably on par or stronger then Awakened pricila and deserve the title of Demi god in claymore world.


There is also a growing fan speculation that Abysall one unlike the regular awakened being will not die from losing their head because of their power. According to them only way to kill an abysall one or above is fight and deplete all it's power then kill he/she.
That will truely be a great news to Claymore fans because if it's true then there is a 50% chance of Teresa still alive and hiding or disabled somewhere in the world.

[Lucha]

That will truly be a great news to Claymore fans because if it's true then there is a 50% chance of Teresa still alive and hiding or disabled somewhere in the world.

I highly doubt that argument... I can't imagine how Teresa could still alive while Clare carrying her head 'knocking' on org's door asking them to put Teresa inside herself...
Teresa's not even awakened yet...

Killing the former awakened number 1 who was demoted, using 10% to deflect Priscilla's 80% youki. These are the proof that Teresa was the best ever.

But remember, at that time Priscillia was still young (in term of experience)... Only 2 months after her promotion and she landed no. 2... Even Teresa herself state that Priscillia would soon surpass herself... Now Imagine Teresa vs Priscillia with both full power and advanced battle exp. It'll cost half of the world to settle the battle...

Teresa is not the best. But certainly is one of the best...

[Playmore]

But remember, at that time Priscillia was still young (in term of experience)... Only 2 months after her promotion and she landed no. 2... Even Teresa herself state that Priscillia would soon surpass herself... Now Imagine Teresa vs Priscillia with both full power and advanced battle exp. It'll cost half of the world to settle the battle...

Teresa is not the best. But certainly is one of the best...

Teresa is/was the best Claymore still. Her abilities, mental stability would have probably if she was still alive let her be still n*1 in rank today( she would be close to her mid 30s? :D).
Compared to the former 1s we know she seemed more likely to never ever going to awaken and still be strong. Men can't resist to awaken, psychotic young ones get to awaken too and now to make a n*1 they need 2 claymores with 1 awaken (the 1st experiment was a failure).
Over the years she would have been getting stronger and better in controlling her yoki even.
But then again.. the organization doesn't like old claymores.. she would have been getting rid of one day or an other. :skull:

[wany1981]

who knows.. maybe there is a plot twist that teresa have awakened a long time ago and have been hiding that fact for a long time... Claymore can go on weeks without eating same as yoma if they have to. Maybe poor Clare to Teresa was food on legs just like how Raki is now. For someone so powerful, changing eye color and hair color and hide yoki is easy.

[EmoEmu]

who knows.. maybe there is a plot twist that teresa have awakened a long time ago and have been hiding that fact for a long time... Claymore can go on weeks without eating same as yoma if they have to. Maybe poor Clare to Teresa was food on legs just like how Raki is now. For someone so powerful, changing eye color and hair color and hide yoki is easy.

teresa awakened would be so fricking cool.
but any plot twist no matter how they do it would be kinda weak by now.... awakened and hiding, head in a tank, not so dead, etc. it seems too late now to bring her back. unless theyre waiting for when priscilla attacks or something...
if only... teresa really was the best claymore.
yeah, priscilla maybe couldve surpassed her, but she didnt. end of story.

[Phantasm]

Lol @ EmoEmu's last comment. Very good point :]

And the only reason she might surpass Teresa was because Teresa pretty much resigned from being a warrior in the sense that her heart was not of a warrior's anymore (because of Clare).

Despite growing soft, she fended off the other four single digits (whom were pretty much attacking her all at once) extremely well. She didn't have to release any energy until Prissy went beserk, really D:

Even as a trainee her yoki-reading abilities are to be noted. She would wander into the yoma-infested woods often and that's where she encountered Raphaela and noted the bit of yoki she sensed from the older Claymore. Raphaela of all people, who had pretty much supressed her yoma energy to nothing.

From the same chapter, Raph asks if Teresa has a sister and, noting the experiments with sisters, I'm assuming its because she believes Teresa owns the potential to become number 1 (or 2, whichever).

She was the best because she was obedient to the Org ("Aye, aye, boss"), she would not become a "failure" by awakening, was experienced/not a n00b like Prissy and could fight without the help of yoma energy. I mean look at that Extra where she fights Rosemary -- she twisted the AB's wrist off with her bare hands! Now thats power.

But then again.. the organization doesn't like old claymores.. she would have been getting rid of one day or an other. :skull:

Yeah, the might've sent someone after her but she didn't question the Org so much and listened to orders. They had Raphaela for a long time and though it may not counter, they have Alicia + Beth, still.

Even if the whole scenario with Clare didn't happen or she survived and lived on, I think she still would be alive until this day >_>; Imo.

+ That comment about her being called a monster by Rosemary, well, even Orsay decides to call her the "strongest creature" intead of the "strongest woman" when we're first introduced to Teresa in Chapter 12.

[Phantasm]

Let's also note her confidence :0 She hardly looks likes she's struggling or breaking a sweat.

[SilentBuddhist]

Let's also note her confidence :0 She hardly looks likes she's struggling or breaking a sweat.
Yeah, but then again, there wasn't a living sould capable of taking her on :p

Ah, I saw this good artwork for her that I think could make a good sig, but I need to look for it...>.<

[Sether]

Teresa is my all-time favorite. She's very powerful for one, and so calm. I wish I could be like her, really, I can never stay calm in pressured situations.
I also wonder, like the others do, what it would be like if she was still alive. But how would Clare react? I mean, I'm not sure either of them would be in the mood for a mushy reunion or anything like that. Haha.

[ghassassin]

Heh. Foolish enough to even consider the possibility of Teresa being alive. With head chopped off, not even her remains can exist in the world. Her only role was for those handful of chapters, and her only reason being to give Clare what she totally lacked.

[Sether]

Mmm. Yeah, I know. But I can hope right? xD
It would make for an interesting, if not slightly redundant* plot twist.

Though I wish they could have made more chapters with her in it without being boring, as in, stretching out details too much.

*Redundant meaning if they wanted to show she was still alive they would have done so earlier in the series. Naturally, that would have been a better entrance anyway.

[Playmore]

Well people should stop thinking she's still alive somewhere really and that she will come back. >.<
The only thing we could see is maybe some extras again from the past probably ante clare time.

[SilentBuddhist]

She will only live on in my mind of absolutely random fanfiction...>.<

Meaning, she will not be coming back to life in Claymore anytime soon. As someone had said, having her just come back to life just cheapens her death. The story of Claymore began because her death made Clare vow for revenge.

Plus, her head is pretty much inside of Clare. What, were y'all expecting her head to just pop out of Clare's body and bite Prissy to death? =P

[Playmore]

Plus, her head is pretty much inside of Clare. What, were y'all expecting her head to just pop out of Clare's body and bite Prissy to death? =P

yea.. actually the head will awaken inside Clare.. and some kind of Alien baby will blast his way out from Clare body :D

[methaniel]

Once the head is cut, it's impossible for a Claymore to revive is it? (but I think one get her neck broke but still manage to heal)...are they Highlander? They won't have any interest of making some weird plot for making Teresa return (except seeing the past...but what to show else). If she did resurrected (which is impossible) I won't like it at all. She's better dead, it add to her charisma (just the look on her face when she get killed was so precious!)

[SaroVati]

I agree. Even though I love Teresa and think she's awesome (which she is), I really wouldn't want her to return and kick Priscilla's butt or anything. After Ophelia, Irene, and Teresa entrusted her with the task of defeating Priscilla, it would just be dumb if Teresa did it in the end :).

[Playmore]

Once the head is cut, it's impossible for a Claymore to revive is it? (but I think one get her neck broke but still manage to heal)...are they Highlander? They won't have any interest of making some weird plot for making Teresa return (except seeing the past...but what to show else). If she did resurrected (which is impossible) I won't like it at all. She's better dead, it add to her charisma (just the look on her face when she get killed was so precious!)

yea don't worry. ;)

Anyway we don't know what yoma parts the org really is using for fusing on the future little claymores. I doubt also they put the full head inside little Clare anyway, might just be the little left toe only.
That part of fusing is still unclear for me, all we know is that it can leave sometimes heavy ugly mutilation like on Teresa body.

[methaniel]

Yeah, I was actually wondering if Clare had too some mutilation (or whatever it is...we never saw Teresa' tummy didn't we?), since she had the flesh of Teresa and maybe inherit some "gene" responsible for this... Though I don't know about putting Teresa's head in Clare was completly made or just a part...I think the Organisation is capable of putting it totally in, after that, maybe they didn't do it like this, but since want her "sister" flesh so bad, I think everything was fuse

[SaroVati]

Lol I'm pretty sure it ALWAYS leaves heavy ugly mutilation because Clare's body is also like that. Might be because she got Teresa's body infused with her but I think that all Claymore's will be like that. I mean, think about it. You just had Yoma flesh and blood put in you in an unknown manner, I doubt it's gunna be perfect lol.

[Phantasm]

She won't come back but she'll always "live on" inside of Clare D;
And because Teresa and Clare are "twin goddesses" maybe having Teresa inside of her, Clare'll be able to do what Alicia and Beth do? It's a stretch >_> but the twin goddesses concept must have some other significance.

[SaroVati]

I agree, they wouldn't just have that there so Teresa can 'name' Clare when she was little. So pretty much Clare can turn into an AB and Teresa will hold her soul? Well, doesen't Clare already have alot of control of her Yoki? I mean she was about to turn into an AB like 3 times and she always returned. The soul thing also might work with Raki, since he turned her back once. But come to think about it, so did Jean so....... I guess either she is 'compatible' with alot of people or it's because Teresa is inside of her.

[ghassassin]

Teresa's blood may be there, but not her heart or mind are inside Clare. Its nothing like Teresa is controlling her from inside or something. Had that been the case, Clare would have been as strong as Teresa, which she is not.

[Hyusuke]

Clare did inherent her great yoki control from Teresa though right? I think I remember either the manga or anime stating that but I can't remember.

[SaroVati]

Acctually, she technically might have gotten her brain (which is quite disturbing). She brought the head of Teresa to that guy right? They might have implemented the whole head in, or maybe just flesh. I don't really think that the brain or heart would do much anyways because it doesent even function inside her body, but who knows? :)

[Chibitea]

Teresa is also one of my favorite Claymores and in my opinion was and will be the strongest Claymore ever .... but then again i wouldn't want her to be "alive and hiding" like the rest of the retired claymores ... it's just not her style i mean she could face pretty much any enemy trown at her and her personality was just not the kinda "let's run and hide" type if u know what i mean, actually this it's pretty obvious on the chapter where the 2,3,4and 5 were after her when she said something like "i could hide my yoki but they're not that dumb anyway" lol so it would really not fit in with her personality to be hiding somewhere ....of course all of this assuming that she's alive which i extremely doubt cause i don't think little clare took her eyes out of teresa's head until they "put her inside her" lol

Teresa's death may be tragic but that's the purpose of it i think it's meant to be tragic an SAD i mean her death it's what drives the whole plot (at least in the beggining) and it makes the reader to sympathize a lot more with clare and her whole mission ,that and making about the 98% of the people who read claymore hate priscilla more than any other character to appear on the series ......the other 2 % of the people ....Raki

.. wait now that i think about it it's more like 50 % Priscilla 50% Raki lol

[Playmore]

Acctually, she technically might have gotten her brain (which is quite disturbing). She brought the head of Teresa to that guy right? They might have implemented the whole head in, or maybe just flesh. I don't really think that the brain or heart would do much anyways because it doesent even function inside her body, but who knows? :)

Well just remember.. Clare was just a little kid. Head was just a few steps from her and i couldn't imagine her lifting the heavy dead body and presenting it instead of the head.. that would just look less good in the manga >.>

The org only talk about flesh and blood of yoma. They never told exactly what piece of flesh exactly.. and what quantity flesh/blood was used on any claymore or where in their body.

[SaroVati]

That's true, they never said anything about needing specific body parts, but aren't most Claymore's only ugly in the stomach area? Well I don't think that it would be their arms/legs cause don't look like they can hold alot there xD. And all the Claymore's up until now have had pretty normal looking faces. Oh does anyone know why the Claymore's hair turns blond after they become Claymores?

[pigpie]

Well just remember.. Clare was just a little kid. Head was just a few steps from her and i couldn't imagine her lifting the heavy dead body and presenting it instead of the head.. that would just look less good in the manga >.>

The org only talk about flesh and blood of yoma. They never told exactly what piece of flesh exactly.. and what quantity flesh/blood was used on any claymore or where in their body.

It would be funny to see Clare dragging Teresa's body and head.She can wrap the bod around her body like a jacket and put the head on her head like a hat.

I am guessing the org slowing break up Teresa head and slowly implant it in Clare.


Claymore hair turning silver Blonde I guess is because Yoma has that hair colour?....or maybe it makes them look cooler...for all you know it may just be dye..the Org is feeling bored so they dye their hair silver...maybe it is a tribute to Easley.

[Phantasm]

Maybe yoma flesh kills the pigment of their hair? Uhm.... I totally forget what color hair yoma have since some do seem to sport hair (maybe I'm just imagining things) .-. and stolen pants, lol.

Same thing goes for their eyes then I'm guessing.

[SaroVati]

Yeah... but when a Claymore (Clarice) has some colour left in their hair, they are considered 'failures' right? So did the Yoma get implanted or w/e wrong? Or just her body rejects it or something? Or is it something in the genes, that allows you to become a full-fledged Claymore? Lol still confused from alot of things but it's slowly getting clearer. Can't wait for next Claymore chapter xD

[Phantasm]

I'm leaning towards "her body rejects it or something" xD;

But Gal did say that they must be short on warriors if there's a brunette present -- which leads me to believe that perhaps they fused her flesh with a really weak Yoma's, with little Yoma flesh or did the whole fusing operation really quickly [since they were short on warriors.]

[wany1981]

I got my japaness friend read the entire claymore managa. He told me a lot of the translation is incorrect and sometime even missleading. The biggest one is when Prisila apear before Teresa for the first time. In english translation Teresa didn't notice prissy until she sees her. But in japaness Teresa notice in mid air and after landing she said:" It would be imposible for you to take my head but if u attacked back then you maybe able to wound me." Wow... we are still under estimating Teresa.

[chezkimo]

HAH! I knew it, i knew that even though Pricilla wasn't using any yoki that Teresa wouldn't leave herself open THAT much.

Teresa, goddess of all claymores, we have underestimated you! Please forgive us!

Anyway, as we know when claymores awaken thier stats go through the roof (according to the data books) as we get stats like SS and S+ and i think i even remeber seeing an SSS. But it comes at the price of thier humanity...and thier good looks.

Teresa already had a yoki sensing ability of S and yoki S+ as well as everything else being A. I wander what kinda stats she would get if she awakened?!!! And i wander what her form would be like? I doubt Priscilla's awakened form would match up to it at all!

[Oink McOink]

teresa's ability is to sense yoki, so maybe she doesn't necesarily got the strongest yoki. maybe same goes for the awakened state.

[chezkimo]

No, don't you remember. Her yoki is that of the strongest Claymore. She was able to beat Pre-awakened priscilla andawakened Rosemary with just 10% and when fighting Priscilla she didn't use any yoki sensing coz Priscilla's yoki was much too wild and large.

[Oink McOink]

Oh yeah, slipped my mind. i stand corrected.

[Phantasm]

Definitely a wow. But I'm not surprised about the errors in translation. I feel like the translation was off in the last few chapters when reading anyhow. Imagine what other errors there could be @_@;

[Hyusuke]

Priscilla was said to be the person to surpass Teresa though. If there were to be a battle between an awakened Teresa and an awakened Priscilla, I think they might be about on par with each other.

[SaroVati]

Lol I doubt they would be on par with each other. Unless you're talking about fighting like 20 years into the future and Priscilla had more experience. When Prissy awakened, if Teresa head stayed in tack, and she awakened, she woulda handed Priscilla's *** to her on a golden plate. It wouldn't even be fair really. After about 20 years, Priscilla 'MIGHT' be able to fight on par with Teresa, but I still doubt it.

[draku07]

i dont think that pris can beat teresa anytime, anyplace...teresa was and still will be the best at any given circumstance...even if you say that
pris will later surpass teresa...i think its only the yoki volume, the skill will be of different level mainly because teresa was born first than pris...the difference in xp gained through time is still the best asset of teresa...

even if they both awaken, pris will still be pawned by teresa with eyes closed...heheh teresa all the way!!!!!!! yoooohooooo

[pigpie]

Priscilla has reached the stage where she cannot go any stronger.Remeber Riful said..if a Claymore were to become stronger durig her time as a warrior than when she awakens she will become a lot stronger. Prissy awakening at the time when she still hadn't fully her potential So teresa will win if they fight as awakened being because Prissy has yet to surpass than Teresa

[chezkimo]

Yeah, it's true. Even though a warrior's strength and power may triple when awakening the disadvantage is that they can't get any stronger. That and the fact that they loose thier humanity and for some reason become overly arragant when awakened. (why is that?)

However, even though Priscilla has reached her limit of strength, she still has yoki untapped. We only got to see a taste of that untapped yoki when she fought with Isley.

But, i still think that Teresa would take her as easily as when they were both claymore warriors.

And SB should make a Miscellaneous Characters thread.

[SaroVati]

Lol they sometimes don't lose all humanity I think. But yeah it pretty much all goes away, but somehow they retain memories? They still have memories, but want to kill them still.... why? Take Duff for example. When the Awakened Beings from the North split up, and they had that talk about Duff not getting along with Rigardo and Isley when they were Claymores still (I think), that means they still have the memory. But as you saw in Miria's case, her friend was killed by her because she was an AB and didn't say a thing to Miria.

Also for the other thing, the disadvantage of awakening isn't really a HUGE disadvantage unless you are new like Priscila. Somebody like Galatea who has been around for a while, will soon reach her potential and even as a Claymore will be unable to advance. So for her to awaken would pretty much just be a power boost xD (Might be another reason why the Org. wants to get rid of old Claymores)

[xana1]

Claymores loose they're humanity when they awakened because they're Yoma part take control, they have memoirs but they don't think racional, it's like a brain wash were everything changes!

Old Claymores are a problem but not because of their awekening, those already know their limits, but because they start to know what they shouldn't! That's why the Organization likes Claymores that are weak and stupid, they get easily kill, and can get replace for new ones!

[SaroVati]

Um how would old Claymores not be a problem because of them knowing their limits and awakening? That could provoke some of them to awakening because of their hunger for power, and then they would be REALLY strong because they are usually single digits by that time. That would cause more distress in the Org. than just people spreading little rumors here and there. Notice how they sent Miria, Deneve, Helen, and Clare on the first Awakened Being hunt? Unless I am completely retarded, Clare was a relatively new Claymore, and the same goes for Helen and Deneve. They sent them there so they would get killed and wouldn't awaken and cause more problems.

[xana1]

Yes that's true, but they also know that Miria knows too much about the organization, it's like killing two rabbits in one shoot (it's like this, the proverb?)!

[SaroVati]

Lol if they really felt like it, they could kill any Claymore working for the Org. at any time right now. That is a problem, but I still think that Awakening would cause more. I mean, #1 and #2 right now won't do anything they are not told, and 3 and 5 are pretty loyal I think. That means the only people that could revolt and be a problem would be #4, and #6-10, and they aren't too strong if #3 and #5 got their asses handed to them by an Abyssal One. I mean that doesen't mean they are weak, but they aren't the brightest of the bunch. When Galatea first went to rescue Clare from Riful, she knew she stood no chance whatsoever versus the Abyssal One. These guys are still strong, but obviously not enough to cause Alicia and Beth trouble if the Org. decides they have to die.

[Chibitea]

Done :eban: Just check the threads and u will find the CM: Miscellaneous Characters Thread !

[clamor]

for previous posts that say priscilla surpassed teresa:

i don't really think so.

someone said that teresa "said" or "admitted" that priscilla would've surpassed her. as i recall, it wasn't teresa who "said" that, it was irene. teresa didn't even say a word when she was about to cut off priscilla's head. who knows? maybe she was thinking "i'd hate to waste effort cutting these guys down again" or "i wouldn't want to risk clare being attacked by this *****".

someone also said that priscilla made it as rank no. 2 after a few months of being a claymore. well, as i recall, from what i've read from "Claymore Extra scenes", Rosemary (former no.1) was suddenly demoted without her knowing. she never expected to be demoted because she saw no threat to her being so. that is, until teresa came over to kick her off. that means teresa immediately sky-rocketed to no.1, while priscilla only got as far as no.2.

eventhough priscilla was still young at the time she battled teresa, she still reached her limits, which i take to mean "her full potential"--the peak of her power no matter how old she becomes. like in isley and luceila's case where isley, who came from the earliest generation, was on par with luceila, eventhough she came from a very recent generation (i think that was generation 74 or 76?). see, once a claymore reaches his/her limits, that's how far he/she can get even if a hundred generations pass. the power Prisclla displayed as an awakened being during her fight with Teresa was about all she had. and Teresa wasn't even serious.

finally, we all saw how "laid-back" and "happy-go-lucky"(kinda) teresa was, even as a trainee (running away from training and stuff), yet she became no. 1 despite that. Priscilla was dead serious about aiming for revenge. see the difference? if teresa had been as serious as Priscilla, Priscilla would utterly suck.

teresa still is the best. period.

that was a long first post. ^_^'

[EightySix]

plus teresa only lost coz she was caught off guard. as an awakened being, teresa couldnt read priscilla's yoma energy due to its flow being so messy and huge. i reckon if teresa was on guard at maybe abit higher percentage of her yoma energy, priscilla would have been defeated not easily but in the end...

[xana1]

I really don't like the Number 1 and 2, they're stupid, it's just like that Male AB that Miria&co kill first, if a Claymore is not smart they don't live long (but if they are too smart they don't live long either xD), but really it's like those two are robots, I think that Clare and the others will kill them in some point!

[Chibitea]

I honestly think that they are gonna go out ot control at some point in the series ....

But... going back on topic (not exactly but ..oh well ) Teresa's losing on the poll vs elric so if u haven't ..Go Vote !! :D

[xana1]

I think Beth will die, and then Alicia will go bersek!

[asilovesblack]

Alicia and Beth aren't so bad. I'd say quite the opposite. It was mentioned that they were trained to kill awakened beings since birth and don't even know how to socialize. I find that cool.

hurray for the twins!!!

[Krasnij Lis]

Yeah. To me the Twins seem like tools to be just thrown away, just another experiment. it shows the org can be complete. [insert cuss word here]


anyway, isn't this thread supposed to be about Teresa?

[SaroVati]

Lol yeah we are getting quite off topic lol. But I don't really mind Alicia and Beth, as long as they don't be crazy like some other Claymores.... *cough* Ophelia *cough* But imo Teresa could take Alicia and Beth. Beth has to link her soul or w/e with her sister, and Teresa could sense that, and find a weakness/disrupt it and they would both die. Alicia awakened vs Teresa 10% = Teresa winning. They state that Alicia can 'ALMOST' match up with an Abyssal One, and might already be close to or on par with one, but Teresa took a 70% demi-god out with 10%. Even with Pris awakened, Teresa would only have to go about 30-40% maximum as Prissy's powers can go up about 3 times it normally would. If 30-40% can beat Pris easily when she's a demi-god, Alicia and Beth are nothing more than soldiers in front of Teresa's power.

[xana1]

That's true, Teresa was the best and the most powerful Claymore, and I don't think it's going to exist another Claymore like her (and I don't think that Clare, even with Teresa inside her, can keep up with Teresa's power)! If Teresa was to Awakened that would be the end of the world!

[SaroVati]

Yeah if Teresa awakened, the Org. should pack up their bags and attempt to head somewhere else, cause that island/world is now screwed for good. Unless she kept some of her actual human thoughts and memories, she would just be a killing machine, unless she turns out like the other Abyssal Ones/Dwellers of the Deep and just sleep for like 1000 years. Maybe in that time, the Org. could screw up like 5 strong #1's and they awaken and they team up to attmept to kill her. Only possible way xD.

[Chibitea]

lol ... to put it in short words

Priscilla, Alicia,Luciela,Riful,Isley,100 Tanks,Nuclear Bomb(all of this together) < Teresa Awakened ..:lol:

[SaroVati]

Lol yeah pretty much :D. That's why she is the best character in ALL of Claymore. And yes Chibitea, that means she IS better than Galatea :)

[Chibitea]

lol ...noooo noot Gal ...how dare u mess with a poor little blind nun with superpowers ? ...:lol:

Well actually yes ..Teresa is the only Claymore that can't be compared to the rest ..simply cause Teresa is Teresa ..period .. *quote what says in ur signature*

[asilovesblack]

LOL. Strength aside, I think both Teresa and Galatea are awesome!!! Also Miria!!! All three of them shall rule the Claymore world!!!

[Oink McOink]

Well, Teresa can't "rule the world" because sadly, she's dead.. and Galatea..Well, can't even see the world..:lol: Miria? Sees the world under a rock..

[Chibitea]

Agreed ....except for the fact that Teresa couldn't rule the world cause she's kinda ..... dead :(

Well maybe she could ...Through Clare ... So i'll add Clare to the "Claymore World Domination
List" ..:lol:

Noooo , how dare u mess with a little poor blind nun with superpowers ...:lol: ... miria would be the only one with enough leadership to run the org ... or then again just find a witch /sorcerer/exorcist/Criss Angel/whatever ...and bring back Teresa ! :eban:

[xana1]

I don't think Teresa can return, cause she as no head xD Although it woul be cool to see her again, maybe in another flashback, I want to know more about her life, there's of things that we don't know about Teresa's past!

[SaroVati]

Lol she wont return, and if she did, would be really weird. Noone would recognize a headless body walking around lol. Anyone know why my sig only shows up on some of my posts but not all? Kinda weird lol

[EightySix]

was teresa's past that complicated? All i could see was that she was a trainee at the camp , talented claymore, then she goes out to the world and owns em up so hard that she becomes the no.1 then she meets clare...not sure if theres much more to that storyline

[Chibitea]

Maybe it wasn't that complicated ...but i wouldn't mind seen more chapters that show Teresa's awesomeness :thumbup:

I don't think Teresa will come back ...i mean ..she DIED !! ....

What happens it's that we're used to the "Hero coming back from the dead clichè" that 99,9% of any shonen manga has ..lol ...But i think that even dead teresa is still what drives the whole manga....She (well the fact that she died) is what keeps Clare going ..so .it would totally destroy the plot of the story if she ever comes back...

I mean after all what clare has done and been through ....her resolve to become a claymore and her revenge would become completely meaningless if teresa just showed up out of nowhere like "Wazzaa Clare..Why were u playing with my head?" ...:lol:

So ..Teresa coming Back ? ...Not gonna happen IMO

[Mitsu The Black Cypher]

After giving this manga a 2nd chance Id have to say shes the best character in the manga so far. The 1st few chaps of this manga were lagging for me and I gave up cuz the plot didnt interest me but when I got to Teresa's story everything picked up and Ive read thru all chaps to get up to date and I gotta say it was worth it.

As far as claymores go shes the most skilled on her own and imo she died in a cheap under handed way Priscilla couldnt win if Teresa was staying offensive and cut off her hands with quickness leaving her done for. I knew she had to die for the story to progress but I wish it happened in a diff way.

As for her skill/talent I think that was all her and not the yoma she was merged with.

[Chibitea]

Yes .. actually everytime i recommend Claymore to anyone i let them know that it's kinda slow at the beginning ...but once u get to Teresa's arc u just won't be able to stop reading .... :thumbup:

And yes ...Teresa just rocks ..:D

And about her dead .. that's the only way she could have died ....i mean 100 Awakened Priscillas wouldn't have been able to kill Teresa if she hadn't let her guard down ......

So i think that's the only way Priscilla could kill her ..in a coward and cheap way (That F&%# little brat ..:mad:) ..lol

[Aegis]

was teresa's past that complicated? All i could see was that she was a trainee at the camp , talented claymore, then she goes out to the world and owns em up so hard that she becomes the no.1 then she meets clare...not sure if theres much more to that storyline

No need to even bother with a complicated background, so long as you have a cool character to love and worship.:ff:

Seriously, in just a few chapters, Teresa played such an integral role in the whole series, and managed to actually be 'good at everything' so to speak yet still remain cool and likable. Just watching her 'cheerfully' explain how she ripped off Rosemary's arm put a smile of my own on my face. :) Then we see her relationship with Clare and how that little girl broke Teresa down was quite touching.

[ZAraki]

was teresa's past that complicated? All i could see was that she was a trainee at the camp , talented claymore, then she goes out to the world and owns em up so hard that she becomes the no.1 then she meets clare...not sure if theres much more to that storyline

actaully it should be since I require explaining...so just some random girl with no cause or special origins could be so strong and be better than everyonel ike galaxies away?????(technically with like 10% of her powers released she is stronger than Priscilla which makes her stronger than all the abyssal ones......so the organization was pretty stupid to order for her death since it made no sense and if they kept on fighting she probably would have awakened and owned the whole world.....):eban:

[Aegis]

I see no need, because the few snippets and personality were all that's required to get a firm grip on what Teresa is all about. She's a woman who merely acts happy, yet deep down she's freakishly miserable. She whimsically thinks back to simple, girlish things, like how she used to have black hair and black eyes, only to be snatched away against her will and made into a killing machine and lost what was once her most beautiful assets (and then some with what is supposed to be a deformity somewhere on her torso). The woman probably had no one for companionship, nor did she want any; all she does is go place to place, kill yoma left and right, and just have everyone else leave her to her own private brooding. Why she's so strong even amongst Number 1 Claymores, we don't know, nor is it really necessary as it was really an exploration of the character herself.

And, whatever the agenda may be, it's not so stupid to want to kill even the best Claymore in the history of the Organization. As noted, they like them as blind, obedient servants, and if even one starts to get a brain, it means a possibility of rebellion, and therefore in time no longer controllable, therefore will end up hurting them in the long run. Skills by themselves mean nothing if it can't be used the way you want it to.

[asilovesblack]

I don't think Teresa has a very complicated past. No, just a different, unique past compared to the usual girl-becomes-claymore-for-revenge. I am in favor of deducing that she was betrayed by her own family since it was mentioned that "the people she trusted sold her to the organization", so naturally she wouldn't have any goals like avenging dead loved ones like almost every claymore does. So maybe she just thought she had nothing to live for, thus the laid back personality which she gains advantage with over claymores who are too distracted with hatred, misery and all the negativity.

She wasn't that miserable actually, because she herself didn't notice her sadness until Clare came in.

Despite what I had said, I still root for her freakishly god-like talents rather than her unique personal history for contributing to her godliness.

Teresa... Why did yah hafta die?!?! (still chants like crazy even after two months of seeing her head fly)

[asilovesblack]

oh, btw, Teresa looked sooo cute as a trainee!!! lol

[Chibitea]

lol ...She was a rebel since childhood ..:lol: .. she used to escape the training facilities to play around in the woods filled with yoma ..o_O ......good times lol

[SaroVati]

Haha playing around in the woods filled with Yoma :P At the age of 12-13 she was prolly pwning em up and showing them who's boss :) She was the reason they were all 'obediant' when the black coats were around.

[Airi-chan]

Meh...if Priscilla hadn't caught her "off guard" Teresa would've killed her easily =P I thought it was a bit too sudden the way that Teresa just died because Priscilla "tricked her" by acting like she wanted to die.
Teresa is my favorite character in Claymore, even if she's dead ='[

[Chibitea]

Yes ..Teresa was brief but she left her mark :thumbup: ...and as i said before ... that's the only way prisci could have killed her .....100 awakened Priscis couldnt have killed 1 Teresa with 50% yoma released IMO (maybe i exagerated a liiittle bit .. oh well ...it's teresa so it doesn't matter ...:lol:)

[Aegis]

oh, btw, Teresa looked sooo cute as a trainee!!! lol

And quite hot as a Claymore. ;) Well... minus that ugly deformity and all that, but I love her all the same. ^^

[neto_360]

Teresa is one of my favorite characters in Claymore as well. I did not like how they killed her off, but it added to the story and shows why Clare is so persistent.

[xana1]

I really want to know more about Teresa's past and her life in the Organization, it could explain lot's of things!

[SaroVati]

I personally would have liked a better way to die, not some cheesy death like that... but she couldn't have died normally so I guess she had to be 'caught off guard'. If there were someone who was on par with Teresa at that time, the Org. woulda sent both powerhouses at each other so they wouldn't be easily overthrown by them later on :P

[Chibitea]

i dont think her death was cheesy .. i mean it was a totall shock when she died ..one momment i was like "yeah prisci ..u're gonna get owneddd ..." and seconds later i'm like WTFFFFF was thatttt :( (and around half an hour in totall disbelief ..lol) ....but i don't think it was cheesy ..because it was a totally unpredictable death .. and nowadays something unpredictable it's pretty hard to find in most shounen mangas *cough*Bleach*cough* ..:lol:

[EightySix]

cheesy is something predictable.. i dont think its cheesy either..totally didnt expect her head to come off..was kinda expecting another fight before a loss not a sudden death.

[Oink McOink]

I think SaroVati preferred an all out battle before Teresa dies.. I know I would want that too, but something like that is messy and would probably leave a bad after taste.. The sudden and unexpected way was still better..

[Krasnij Lis]

yeah, gotta admit Teresa's death was unexpected, but at the same time, because she was such a good character i knew something was gonna happen to her. after reading the chapters she had the spotlight in, I gotta say you can not dislike her. Her first appearence surprised me more than her death did to be honest.

[Chibitea]

A totally crazy battle Dragon ball style with everyone awakening / going crazy ..THAT would have been cheesy ...IMO ....Plus without Prisci 's cheapshot there would have been no surprise factor ...and probably Teresa's death wouldnt have been so shocking / tragic ...IMO

[Krasnij Lis]

yup, gotta agree with you there chibitea. Those kind of fights i really hate.

[Oink McOink]

I did kinda hate Teresa when she first kicked Clare.. But seeing it was necessary to show the change in Teresa when Clare entered her life.. So it's water under the bridge.

[Krasnij Lis]

yeah, I liked her because she was really sarcastic and i found the way she scared the population in the towns and villages hillarious, she was badass at first and then changed, still keeping some of the badassness though.

[Chibitea]

Yes i have to admit ... that the first time i saw teresa .. i tough she was kinda Byakuya ..lol ...but then clare came and showed her that tears also flow from silver eyes ..lol ..

now seriously ....i think what makes teresa so appealing it's not just her badassness ..but also the fact that even when she put up the whole "badass/get away from me" facade you could see that she was just pretty weak and sad inside ...and she hadn't realized of this until clare made her understand it cause she had been through the same kind of thing ...so i think that transformation from the cruel lonely warrior ..to the warrior that fights to protect the ones that she cares about it's what makes her so likeable ....well ok ok ... and that she insanely badass too ..:lol:

[Aegis]

I liked her sarcasm myself, particularly how she explained to Rosemary how she managed to rip her arm off (complete with demonstration, too). ^^ Truly, I found her to be a well written character and high on my list of favourites in this series. Given how powerful she's been made, complete with shredding ABs like paper with or without 10 percent Yoma release (which is quite awesome, btw), it really takes a good writer to make an interesting character without turning her into some Mary Sue. Of course, I've also yet to find someone that is truly dull in Claymore, which kinda shows how awesome the series is, ne? :)

[Krasnij Lis]

yup, sure does.

[SaroVati]

Lol I agree, she was kinda like Byakuya. Later on, she kinda developed like Byakuya as well, as he also saved his sister from getting impaled. But her evolution was greater and turned her into a better person overall. And if she went all out, there are more unexpected ways for her to die still :p. I just kinda wanted to see her actually fighting someone who's not getting their *** kicked by her... but thats impossible :(.

[asilovesblack]

I did kinda hate Teresa when she first kicked Clare.. But seeing it was necessary to show the change in Teresa when Clare entered her life.. So it's water under the bridge.


I've never hated Teresa for a single milisecond! At that moment, I actually felt sadness for clare rather than hatred for Teresa. Simply because I couldn't hate her in whatever she does! anything! even in dying too early she's just too un-hate-able :lol:

[asilovesblack]

lol.. I guess Teresa's badass-ness got me obsessed, and her character change as well. It was the first time I worshipped an anime character so... obssessively... It was also the first time I cried for more than ten minutes after seeing someone die on screen. :lol:

[Salgat]

I still feel as though Teresa's death was forced, I would have loved to see a battle between awakened Priscilla and Teresa. No doubt in my mind that Teresa would have won, she was taking Priscilla at 80% with ease at just 10%.

[Chibitea]

yes ... i've never hated teresa either ... not even when she kicked clare ...(just tought it's was her personality not getting attached to people ) .... and the byakuya comparison ...it's actually a good thing in my book :lol: cause Mr Kuchiki it's actually my favorite Bleach character soo ..:D...

I know most people would like to have seen a full battle with teresa showin all her power ... but IMO that would have lessen her as a character ...i mean it's like in a horror movie ..u fear the monster more when u haven't seen it ...than when the monster shows up and u can clearly see it's just a guy in a LAME costume ..(99% horror movies these days lol) .....

well IMO it's the same thing with Teresa ...she's is and WILL always be so awesome beacause of what she was and what she could have been :thumbup: ...if we would have seen her in full power it would have benn kinda "wow that's awesome" but that's about it ...i think what still makes her so cool it's that she seems kinda limitless cause she died without going to her limit ...IMO :)

[asilovesblack]

If you want Teresa to reach her limits then you're wishing for a LONG LONG storyline. TERESA HAS NO LIMITS!!! :lol:

[Chibitea]

exactly !! :lol: teresa's just too cool for that :D

[budkxoxo]

NEWS NEWS.... the Claymore organization had develop new cloning technology and they had cloned all the strongest Claymores in the organization's history. First to be cloned is Theresa and bla bla bla...

haha i couldn't imagine if several Theresa clones actually existed, Priscilla and the other Abyssal will be cowering somewhere frightened.

BTW the cloning technology isn't true...Theresa's character is for her alone.

P.S. They preserved some tissue from Theresa's head when Clare came to them..LOL

[Goldie Locks]

by now, everyone is just so focused on clare and party, that bringing her in would be a complete WTF? ( even though i love Theresa she is the best ^^ ) and it would throw everything out of balance. like even if somehow she did comeback ( part of me hopes she does) what would she do?

~GL

[Chibitea]

IMO ...Teresa can't come back (she's kinda ...dead :lol:) ...and even if she could .....her comeback would destroy the whole plot of the story so far i mean .......what triggered every single one of clare's actions until now was teresa's death ....so teresa coming back would erase completely all the meaning of clare's journey ...and that would kinda ..suck xD ...

So even if teresa if one of the best characters in the whole story i don't see how her coming back would benefit the story (at least right now)

[lsumd2011]

So even if teresa if one of the best characters in the whole story i don't see how her coming back would benefit the story (at least right now)

How would it benefit the story? She'd be friggen in it, that's how it'd benefit the story. :D

[Krasnij Lis]

How would it benefit the story? She'd be friggen in it, that's how it'd benefit the story. :D

dude, it would screw up the whole point of Claymore's story UNLESS it is some flashback that turns out to be relevent to the plot

[Chibitea]

would erase completely all the meaning of clare's journey

Clare's Journey = Claymore Storyline

Even if Teresa Rocks ...in the end Claymore (as we know it ...and as Norihiro Yagi writes it and draws it) It's About Clare and her path as a claymore ...not about teresa's path (even if she triggered the events that made clare a claymore)

[lsumd2011]

dude, it would screw up the whole point of Claymore's story UNLESS it is some flashback that turns out to be relevent to the plot

Dude, I was joking, hence the ":D" at the end of the post. ;)

[asilovesblack]

So glad to see Teresa is so loved. :lol:

This should be a better idea:

Yagi creates another Claymore series with a different plot and Teresa lives. :D

Or put all the characters be in AU... Oh, Oh! I vote they be in junior high! :thumbup:

[Goldie Locks]

So glad to see Teresa is so loved. :lol:

This should be a better idea:

Yagi creates another Claymore series with a different plot and Teresa lives. :D

Or put all the characters be in AU... Oh, Oh! I vote they be in junior high! :thumbup:


haha!:lol: yesh ^^ junior high sounds perfect...and the teachers a evil demons? hah this is funny.

anyways- i had this weird theory so i thought i should bring it up. IF IF IF Clare died...like she would see theresa and then she would come back and be all RAWR! haha:devil: but i highly doubt my theory

~GL

[lsumd2011]

All the claymore's as junior high school students....that would be funny. 50 bucks says Helen would be a punk. :D

[chezkimo]

That would be funny actually. And Riful and Miata would be in elementary school, being evil children and sending the teachers crazy! The new generation o0f claymore would be like freshman and Alicia and Beth would be emos sitting at the back of the class dressed all in black.

Talking about Teresa coming back to life. It won't happen. But maybe Clare cold have a near-death experience and because she's infused with teresa, teresa's mind takes over Clare's body for awhile and like untapps all the potential of Clare in a batle against Alicia or Pricilla or somebody, but once clare's mind becomes concious, she returns back to normal. hmm?

[SaroVati]

Lol? That's kinda like Bleach and the Hollow inside Ichigo, or the Kyuubi inside Naruto, and would be a little cliche, and we all know Yagi isn't the type to do such obvious things :) Although I don't really mind, as I did not start, and continue watching Claymore for things to fascinate me mentally lol. I started Claymore for action and action is what I got :) I'm happy with it lol.

[asilovesblack]

That would be funny actually. And Riful and Miata would be in elementary school, being evil children and sending the teachers crazy! The new generation o0f claymore would be like freshman and Alicia and Beth would be emos sitting at the back of the class dressed all in black.

Talking about Teresa coming back to life. It won't happen. But maybe Clare cold have a near-death experience and because she's infused with teresa, teresa's mind takes over Clare's body for awhile and like untapps all the potential of Clare in a batle against Alicia or Pricilla or somebody, but once clare's mind becomes concious, she returns back to normal. hmm?


Yeah and Miria would be student council president. Galatea should be vice-president cuz she doesn't like heavy jobs (also based on the theory that if Galatea joined the 7, Miria would still be the leader). Or Flora maybe, and Galatea would be a popular (good-hearted) b****.

Clare should be a transfer student for the sake of individually introducing and developing the characters.

Rubel should be the principal. :lol: and yep, the black coats as teachers.

Deneve should be a book worm who suprisingly hangs out with punk helen.:D

Emo Alicia and Beth... :lol:

Ophelia should be a former student who lost her mind and was placed in a mental hospital.:thumbup:

And Teresa, the queen of all!!! Feared and adored by all students and teachers!!:eban:

[EightySix]

then erm..priscilla? school bully? coz atm shes some lil kid lol and hardly bullying material..plus u forgot the guys! gid, isley, rigald, raki etc etc...

[asilovesblack]

Priscilla should be a Teresa-wannabe :devil:

Isley should be a teacher maybe? A young substitute teacher that fangirls drool over (next to Teresa:D).

Galk and sid... dont really know.

And I favor Raki not being in it :lol:

[Pitou]

Ishley is the pretty boy, priscillas the silent girl that sits at mid-side, Galk and Sid are the smokers that skip class once a day.

Rakis in kindergarden =\

[Evilminion18]

Talking about Teresa coming back to life. It won't happen. But maybe Clare cold have a near-death experience and because she's infused with teresa, teresa's mind takes over Clare's body for awhile and like untapps all the potential of Clare in a batle against Alicia or Pricilla or somebody, but once clare's mind becomes concious, she returns back to normal. hmm?

I truely hope nothing like that happens.. Teresa being shown in flashbacks would be fine. Besides Clare has Teresa's flesh in her not her mind /soul.

Priscilla should be a Teresa-wannabe :devil:

:lol:

then erm..priscilla? school bully? coz atm shes some lil kid lol and hardly bullying material..plus u forgot the guys! gid, isley, rigald, raki etc etc...

Well someone needs to be in the special ed class perfect place for Prissy.

School bully would be Ophelia.

[Pitou]

Personally, I believe Teresas part in the epic that is Claymore is over. Flashbacks, maybe. Another extra scene, unlikely. But revival or possessing another character? I very highly doubt it.

[Krasnij Lis]

Personally, I believe Teresas part in the epic that is Claymore is over. Flashbacks, maybe. Another extra scene, unlikely. But revival or possessing another character? I very highly doubt it.

I agree, revival and possesion are pretty stupid ideas if you ask me. since there isn't a way either could work

[jack4s]

hi, i'm new here and i'm not in the mood to read all post before so i apologize if i will repeat somethings and for my bad english.

i think that complite claymore is similary to half awakened, and closer some claymore is in time of her creation stronger that claymore will become.
yoma meat is parasit, so it will slowly consume claymore, but with half awakened they change that relationship to a closer one to a simbiotic.
have you ever ask yourself whay they have to eat that littre, answer is simple, yoma meat slowly eat thair remening human meat. so by half awakened they stoped that, but now they have to eat more that before to fill a hole.

teresa was allways something special as priscila.
bouth had huge hate for yomas so that emotion can be changed in power, but priscila lacked mental power and was unstable, on other hand teresa didn't care about anyone it was fine just that she can kill yomas and she possessed huge mental power allmoust the same ammo as irene. and it looked that she despised organization, because her action show sarcastic respond to her collector.
they never known how much power had teresa, because it was said that she never want past 30% of her power and power doesn't go up lineary (10%-10, 20%-20...)
because she never used more than 30% she got name teresa of fainth smile and because of her unpalarel ability to sense yoma energy and fight on a base of it.
so is unfair to say that priscila is stronger than teresa, and yoma energy isn't everything, more importain is battle capability, in wich teresa surpased everyone form first to last claymore and awakened one.

teresa and priscila could be count in the same power class, base on yoma
we know for sure that awakened teresa would be much more powerful than riful and others.
for miata is still question in wich class to put it: in class with riful or in class with teresa and priscila.
to point that we have seen miata would be in class with teresa
teresa was able to kill monsters with bare hands too.
i but miati threat same fate as priscilas, because of her lack of mental power.
mental power is to stay calm an all type of situations. to not let emotions take over you.

I think that this will be all.
did i forget something?

[kazuki_yuki92]

i am agreed.....if Teresa most power full than riful and another...
and then miata same class with Teresa..maybe yes miata same class with Teresa!!miata can kill yoma with her hand...Teresa cut rosemary with her hand...have a different level...
for me Teresa a number one forever..she very beautiful,cool,and so cute...
i hope Teresa will live again...hehehe:thumbup:

[jack4s]

meby when he complite claymore he could made side story about teresa.

[kazuki_yuki92]

yes...i am agree..
i hope....
when yagi sensei complete claymore series,made manga about "Faint Smile Teresa"!!
teresa only has 1 abilty?it is sense yoki?its true?

[jack4s]

teresa was special in many ways.
it's true that she could seansed yoma to the smallest point and used it in a fight, as way to be one step before enemy, as now clare is doing.
but her name was given to her because she never needed to go over 29% of her yoma power realise, so her face never change.
and we know much to littre about her, but from look she realy hate organization and yomas.

[Krasnij Lis]

teresa was special in many ways.
it's true that she could seansed yoma to the smallest point and used it in a fight, as way to be one step before enemy, as now clare is doing.
but her name was given to her because she never needed to go over 29% of her yoma power realise, so her face never change.
and we know much to littre about her, but from look she realy hate organization and yomas.

True, but it was 10% not 29

[Playmore]

teresa only has 1 abilty?it is sense yoki?its true?

Yes and that was more than enough.

Clare/galatea/tabitha don't have the same physic quality and acute sensing ability to use that skill in an effective way in a fight like she used to do it.

[jack4s]

True, but it was 10% not 29
eyes change color at 10%
face change at 30%
so she is using more than 10% and less than 30%

[Aegis]

Yes and that was more than enough.

Clare/galatea/tabitha don't have the same physic quality and acute sensing ability to use that skill in an effective way in a fight like she used to do it.

They also don't have the same reserves to back that ability up the way she does, either. Teresa's special not just for her sensing abilities but also because she's so strong that even a mere ten percent release would be the end of anyone. Heck, without even going ten percent, she ripped an awakened being's arms off like nothing. @_@;

[kazuki_yuki92]

hmm..teresa have many mysterious side...her belly...right?:ninja:

[bleachlover20053]

i was so surprised when i saw teresa die so easily after prisicilla was like 90%, i know she was caught off guard and all but in the Extra chapters she obliterated the former number 1 in just one friggin move. it was cool, i wonder if claire will learn it, although i guess quick sword is somewhat similar to it

[Mookie]

didnt they say when pricilla awakened that all that she was basicly capible of came out when she awoke, teresa again never used that much of her power, they said that pricilla had the ability to surpass teresa but it might of never happend either, as an organization they thought they had teresa figgured out and irene didnt know the extent of teresa's power. it could be that they never knew what teresa was truly capable of. teresa in the end was caught off gaurd and she didnt have any yoma released when she was going to kill pricilla. one thing i want to know though is that claire, essentially she has 1/4th instead of 1/2 but if she awakens does 100% comeout? and is the 100% the equal to teresa's 100%? or if she awakens is it 50% limit and 50% of what teresa's true power if she was to awaken?

[Pitou]

eyes change color at 10%
face change at 30%
so she is using more than 10% and less than 30%

Teresa only used more than 10% twice; once fighting the former number one and second when fighting Pris.

The reason she was called "... of the Faint Smile" had nothing to do with either, it was because she had an almost indetectable smile whenever she killed a yoma.


And Mookie, awakening releases potential, it doesnt increase the yoma blood strength. Essentially, an awakened Clare would probably be half as strong as an awakened Teresa, in terms of sheer yoma power. However, seeing as Clare has been growing stronger, she might be higher than 50%. Its not really possible to know until the mangaka tells us

[Mookie]

but u know they did say claires power is very inconsistent, maybe she taps into the full power of teresa

[jack4s]

how it looks, there is possible to higher ammo of yoma energy, but is not easy.
organization never know how much power teresa had and how it look's teresa was despising organizacion as clare was from begining.
than can be seen form her atribute to her collector and her lie about her power, when she killed ex-no.1.

clare was seated on number 47 only because of her realy low ammo of yoma energy,
but if we look at teresa we see that she wasn't strong only because of her huge yoma power, but to because of ther way of using.



The reason she was called "... of the Faint Smile" had nothing to do with either, it was because she had an almost indetectable smile whenever she killed a yoma.

they said that she got that nick from that:
she never in her life want over 30% in realise, so her face never changed, as we have seen on many other claymores.

10% eyes
30% face
50% body
80% limit

it looks that in state of halfawakened, their yoma energy ammo go up much faster than that of normal claymores.
and clare went over her second limit.

[Pitou]

but u know they did say claires power is very inconsistent, maybe she taps into the full power of teresa

Good thinking, but thats not what they meant. Clare fights better against stronger people than weaker ones because its harder for her to sense the yoki movements in weaker opponents - thats why she can fight awakened so well. Unlike Teresa, she cant make up for that with sheer skill and strength.


Jack4s:

http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/20/14/

"Her only asset is her smile"

The top five have always been able to kill yoma without going over 30%.

[Mookie]

im still not convinced, u know when claire went on her first awakend hunt, maria said the thought claire was the strongest essentailly from reading her yoki, meaning that miria sensed alot of power from claire

[Oink McOink]

im still not convinced, u know when claire went on her first awakend hunt, maria said the thought claire was the strongest essentailly from reading her yoki, meaning that maria sensed alot of power from claire

You mean Miria? she didn't sense the size of her yoki.. what she sensed was merely an impression on what Clare is.

[jack4s]

Jack4s:

http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/20/14/

"Her only asset is her smile"

The top five have always been able to kill yoma without going over 30%.

you are wrong read here:
http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/12/12/
http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/12/13/

all other went at least once in past over 30%, she is only one who didn't

clare have aura of teresa, is not yoki, but presence, or how someone feal oround you, if you have looked at teresa every human was scared of her to point of pissing in the paints, but she didn't scare them with only wht she said, but too with how she said.
clare have now auro of irene too.

and if you look in anime clare is colored oround her in red, that should be her aura, whic is showing her as dangerus.

[SaroVati]

Lol I'm pretty sure she never went over 10%. It is true that her face never contorts from your links, but you can have 10% yoki and not have a contorted face. If she can take out Prissy with 10%, and Prissy can easily take out an Abyssal One if she gets serious or unleashes her power, she wouldn't need 10%+ to take out normal AB's. Judging from the power of Pris, when she was awakened and when she was at 90% fighting Teresa, Teresa could've killed any of the Abyssal One's with 10%. Priscilla could've gotten 10% more yoki in, so barely any stronger, and when she's at 100%, she could whoop probably ALL the Abyssal Ones at the same time. This would equate to Teresa being able to take out all 3 at 20-30%, and I doubt all of them will gang up if they knew they would die so easily to one Claymore.

[asilovesblack]

Nice way to put it, SaroVati. Yes. Yes, indeed. Teresa can pwn all AO's at once. :lol: Prissy's just a wannabe. :devil:

[Chibitea]

An Unicorn wannabe i would say ...:lol:

:postcount: ...xD

[Dantrag]

Lol I'm pretty sure she never went over 10%. It is true that her face never contorts from your links, but you can have 10% yoki and not have a contorted face. If she can take out Prissy with 10%, and Prissy can easily take out an Abyssal One if she gets serious or unleashes her power, she wouldn't need 10%+ to take out normal AB's. Judging from the power of Pris, when she was awakened and when she was at 90% fighting Teresa, Teresa could've killed any of the Abyssal One's with 10%. Priscilla could've gotten 10% more yoki in, so barely any stronger, and when she's at 100%, she could whoop probably ALL the Abyssal Ones at the same time. This would equate to Teresa being able to take out all 3 at 20-30%, and I doubt all of them will gang up if they knew they would die so easily to one Claymore.

Yep, Teresa was propably the organizations asset of protecting themselves against the Abyssal Ones at that time, but it does seem odd that instead of trying to make another Teresa, if she was as powerfull as we are led to believe, why did they instead focus on making a controlled full awakening? Surely making a replica of Teresa would have proved much less riskfull and more usefull since it wouldn't have required identical twins, complex soul links and stuff like that... I mean that's the single most vulnerable weakpoint of the entire soul link, the other twin who controls the awakened one. Beth can't fight while she's maintaining Alicia's humanity and if she is killed and it can be done easily as she can't fight, then Alicia goes berserk....

There is an answer as to why the went for a controlled awakening though? It's simple, attack efficiency.

Normal claymores are very limited when they are fighting. A single claymore doesn't have the means to attack multiple awakened beings at once. They are limited to 1 on 1 combat, even Teresa was limited this way, even in her fight against Irene, Prisclla, Noel & Sophie, she could only attack one opponent at a time. And even if they are proficient fighters it takes quite a bit of effort and cutting to completelly destroy a huge AB.

Now compare a normal claymore to the awakened Alicia. Alicia's physical size is big and so are the weapons she has, allowing her to attack with much more force and all AB's can fight in close, mid and long range. Her attacks were so efficient that it wasn't killing one AB with a single strike, it was killing multiple AB's with one attack.

Because of the limitation that normal Claymores have, I think it's quite ridiculous to say that Teresa as a normal claymore would be able to take on all 3 Abyssal Ones at the same time and with less than 30-percent of her power. She isn't immortal, no matter how much yoki she has, she can die from a single hit and as said before, she is limited to close combat and dealing with 1 foe at a time. If she were to try and attack for example Riful, the other two would simply shoot her in the back and she'd be dead. Her yoki sensing propably wouldn't be able to help her as Abyssal Ones all have a huge amount of Yoki and we already saw that Teresa's yoki-sensing failed when Prissy hit 80% and she was already losing in speed, strenght and reflexes as well. The only thing her 10% did was bring her strenght, speed and reflexes to match Priscilla, as far as we know, she was still unable to read Priscilla's yoki.

If it was one on one against an abyssal one, then I'd say she propably would win, but 3 on 1, as normal claymore, that would just be ridiculous.

[asilovesblack]

If I may kindly disagree with you, Dantrag.:D

First off, the organization didn't create a replica of Teresa because they couldn't. May it be a real Teresa clone or some other claymore with equal skills or personality. Teresa was a one-of-a-kind phenomenon that happens once a millenia. The organization never intended for Teresa to become as powerful as she became. It just happens that Teresa was strong on her own without any special training from the organization. Besides, if there actually was this special training, then why didn't the organization just give it to Alicia or Beth? Again, the organization never knew of Teresa's potential until they let her out on the field. There was no planning behind Teresa's creation.

And about Alicia having a wider attack range. I mean, would the organization go through so much trouble as to perfect soul link just to get an advantage of range? They experimented on soul link because it is their only way to counter Abyssal Ones. Not because they had a choice or something.

Lastly, Teresa was fighting Priscilla and the others at the same time. She just attacked them one at a time cuz she only had one claymore. And she released just 10% of her power to defeat the awakened Rosemary, which is the next best thing to an Abyssal One. And she just released that 10% because she was afraid that "she might forget how to do it". And if that's that, then I bet she can do heck of a lot better with 30%.

The idea that two of the Abyssal Ones would shoot her from behind while Teresa is fighting with another one is very likely, yes. But that would happen if Teresa took her time with whoever she's currently fighting. I mean, she could just finish one off before the other two could even attack, you see? Impossible? Nope. If Teresa could take out Rosemary within minutes with 10% yoki, then imagine how fast she can take out an Abyssal One with 30%, or 40%, just to be safe. :D

:lol: Teresa can pwn AO. And by AO, I mean, AnyOne :lol:

[asilovesblack]

An Unicorn wannabe i would say ...:lol:

:postcount: ...xD


Unicorn wannabe... :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Dantrag]

If Teresa was once in a lifetime phenomenom, that they had no idea how to replicate, how could they create Priscilla to specifically counter her? In both the fighting style and the amount of Yoki, which obviously was ment to go up and up. They could have gone for another Teresa if they wanted to, but they also realised that they needed bigger guns with more attack capabillaties than a normal claymore had, in the sense of a warrior that could attack multiple opponents at once and to decimate them in the blink of an eye. And what about Miata? Miata has enough power even now, that if she was just a bit more sane, she would be replacing Alicia as #1.

AS for Teresa fighting with the gang. Yes, she was dealing with them all at once but as you said, she could only attack one at a time, because she only had 1 claymore and not only that but the range of a claymore is very small. Most of the time she was forced to dodge instead of attacking because 4 different attacks was simply too much for her to take head on, even for Teresa it's impossible to block everything. She was able to dodge because she could sense the yoki clearly, sensing where the attacks would come and where they would hit, now imagine her having to deal with 4 people releasing so much yoki that Teresa wouldn't be able to read the flow? She would be in trouble and no matter how much yoki she had, her asset would still be her yoki reading and it failed her battle abilities would drop significantly. Also 10% to defeat an AB that we don't know a thing about. Rosemary for as far as we know, could have been nothing but trash, propably even weaker than Rigardo. I don't think it's a very good example.

Now let's see. Teresa is stuck at close with combat fighting where as atleast two of the Abyssal Ones have also devastating long range attacks. Riful with her whip-like body parts and Isley with his homing-in arrows. Both of them propably have so much Yoki that Teresa would have trouble reading it and since those two can attack from a distance, how would Teresa fight them if she can't get close to them? So I'd say that the abyssal ones would have the advantage as it would only take 1 hit for Teresa to be unable to fight, with the amount of damage AB's can do but for Teresa, it would take some time to hack down the Abyssal Ones and awakened beings can take much more damage than a claymore can.

What I'm trying to point out here is that while Teresa is one of the strongest if not the strongest, non-awakened claymore ever, she is not a God, she is not all powerfull, 1 serious hit is enough to render almost all claymores unable to fight or dead, even her and yes, in a battle, even succer punching and stabbing in the back are allowed, there is no room for honor in mortal kombat.

I propably will get slaughtered by Teresa-fans for this but rationality is also something that you should look at. The fact that Teresa lost her hands from a simple attack, hell, she even should have been able to see Priscilla reaching for the sword, it clearly tells that she isn't perfect when fighting and one mistake can cost you.

[asilovesblack]

Priscilla was never created to counter Teresa. No one ever said that. Priscilla happens to have the same specialties as Teresa. And it is possible that two unnatural phenomena occured at the same time. Like two stars forming at the same time. Teresa and Priscilla happen to have lived in the same generation. Again, Priscilla was never created to counter Teresa like you said. She was again an unbelievable phenomena like Teresa. The organization never inteded for her to be like that. It was also with her own abilities that she became a poweful claymore, not because of some treatment that as you say was previously given to Teresa. If there was this special training, they should have given it to more than one claymore to get a super powerful army of Teresa wannabes to back up Alicia and Beth. :lol:

Yes, Teresa should be at a disadvantage if incredible amounts of yoki came flooding in from everywhere. That is, if she wasn't the most skilled warrior in the first place. If it so happens that she can't read yoki, she'll just use her eyes and rely on her own abilities which made her number 1:lol:. But of course, that sounds like a petty excuse, or a joke even. But with the way Teresa utterly defeated Priscilla to the point that she froze up from fear, then it would be likely that Teresa did have that "Sheer strength" factor.

Yes, Rosemary could have been trash, but she still held the title "Number 1", so eventhough she was weaker than other number 1's, or number 2's even, given the case of Rigardo, she still shouldn't have fallen behind that far. And the fact that Teresa defeated her in minutes is what I emphasized. We can't just deny Rosemary the recognition of grabbing top spot; eventhough she was weaker than an average number 1, she still is powerful. Point is, Teresa still pwned a powerful being within minutes.

If awakened Priscilla was able to destroy half of Isley's body in a short time, then Teresa at 30% wouldn't break much sweat, since she would've defeated Priscilla at 10%.

Lastly, Teresa is stuck at close combat like you said. But if I may say so, she does have a brain. A brilliant one at that. Close combat warrior vs long range warrior is nothing a bit of tactics can't solve. What if Teresa were to return back to 0% yoki release and work her way across the battlefield undetected and then suddenly pull out 30% once she catches an Abyssal One off guard (just like how that b**** Prissy caught her off gaurd)? Again, tactics, tactics, tactics. :D

Hope I don't seem to you as someone picking a fight. :) It's just friendly discussion and all. :)V

And yes. The Teresa mob/cult/worshippers shall hunt for your head. And as you see me now, I shall undoubtedly be one of them. :devil:

Sorry, ain't a fan of that rationality-watchamacallit. :D

[Dantrag]

Except that she wasn't the most skilled fighter ;) They even state that the only reason why she was #1 was because of her unparalled ability to read the flow of yoki. People like Irene had already surpassed her in other areas of fighting. Irene was the better swordswoman of the two but because of Teresa's yoki reading ability she could never come to hit her. Teresa was a proficient swordsman, but not a master.

And Priscilla was always ment to surpass Teresa, that means she was specifically ment to become stronger than her and being stronger means being able counter to someones abilities. Second, Teresa when fighting relied sensing yoki, Priscilla fought and was trained to fight without releasing it just to counter Teresa.

Third Teresa isn't like the 7 or Raphaela. She uses her yoki from time to time meaning that her yoki never fades. No matter how hard she would try, any AB would be able to sense her yoki, it would be impossible for her to go unnoticed. Hell even the Irene & co could tell exactly which room and which inn Teresa was staying just by sensing that small amount of yoki.

And lastly. Did you actually see what Priscilla did to Isley? She was more powerfull than Isley, yet she got hit several times by an experienced fighter, Both her arms were gone etc And she regenerated at super speed and with one massive tentacle-attack tore Isley to shreds. Now if it was Teresa who was impaled on that spear, she would have been dead ages ago. Or what would she do, swings her claymore that couldn't even reach? The moment she would take damage on her limbs would be the moment she'd lose.

And TBH, when it comes to combat experience peole who have lived for centuries propably have it tons more than someone who was propably in her thirties at max.

As said she isn't omnipotent, atleast not against all 3 of them. 1 on 1 is another story. Heck a fully awakened Priscilla would propably be enough to force Teresa to go near 80 percent with the 3 x power boost one can get from awakening.

And no, I'm not trying to pick a fight ;) I'm just trying to point out that while Teresa was strong, she still wasn't all powerfull or else the org would have sent her to kill off all the AB's instead of concentrating on that soul link-thing, because Teresa was still a trainee or already an active claymore when the org acquired Alicia & Beth (That is if I'm not completelly mistaken)

[jack4s]

i readed post and i will say this, teresa would be able to kill those 3 at the same time, but she would have to go to 80% of her power, to be on safe side.
even if she lost her ability to sense accurate yoma, she still can seanse yoma aura's, so she will still be able to fight on base of it.
and with her realise of her yoma, her speed rise by a lot, so i believe that those legs wich clare shown would be form awakened teresa.
teresa allmoust all the time fight with less than 10%
when something powerful come up she rise her yoma to point of 29% or a littre less.

but we must not forget that claymores factor of realise is not linear, so her power would be at least about "10" times greater on 80% than on 20% and speed as well.
and as we seen with a lot of speed, every thing is possible.

teresa was realy smart and she could probably ba able to hold the longest ammo of time on the limit of her yoma, because her mental power was meby only second to irene's.
and if we look at fight with priscila she let her alive 3 times and as irene said that normal teresa would kill her at first sight.
so teresa, wich we have seen wasn't at full strenght, far from that.

and it looks like that teresa knowed some swordmanship's tricks, as she throw priscila on the ground, when priscila hed much more brutal power.

and it look like that teresas reaction time went down by a lot when she realise her yoma, so she shouldn't have any problem without her seansing.

awakened ones are problematic because they are using 100% of yoma all time, but they too aren't unbreakeble.

they knowed where is teresa, because of thairs spy's, teresa said that they aren't stupid.


i'm not fan of teresa, even if i like her as character, but i like story even more.
and i writte what i think.

[asilovesblack]

I am losing way too many braincells on this... how could you even post that fast?! Heck, it takes me twice even thrice the time you take to post a reply. :lol:

Anyhu, if Priscilla was ever meant to surpass Teresa, then the bottom line there would be: she sadly didn't. She merely used a cheap trick on her. Irene even said that it was because of Clare that Teresa became too soft-hearted. She said that "it was the reason she died". Then that means, if the whole Teresa/Clare thing didn't happen, and Prissy went head-to-head with the old Teresa, then the outcome would be the other way around.

And Priscilla, again, wasn't created to counter Teresa. She just happened to be similar to Teresa in terms of combat abilities.

And like you said, Teresa can't completely hide her yoki. But then again, the reason why Irene and the others found her location is because the setting was calm, Yoki-wise. If Teresa and her abnormal yoki-sensing ability won't be able to determine anything in a battlefield overflowing with yoki, I'm sure as hell the Abyssal Ones won't too. If Teresa reverted to 1% yoki release, they still wouldn't be able to pinpoint her. Like a needle in a stack of needles, ne?

If Teresa were impaled with that spear-thingy, you say? ...What if she weren't? Prissy got hit by those spear-thingies because her mind was unstable and she wasn't focusing. What if the opposite went for Teresa? If she focused enough, she would be able to dodge simple attacks like that.

If Teresa can't reach, she can just throw the claymore towards Isley's head. :D

Let's just end this and restate:

"If Teresa were to awaken, she could pwn all Abyssal Ones at once." :D

EDIT:

When I was talking about someone picking a fight, I was referring to myself :). But yeah, I know you weren't picking a fight XD.

[jack4s]

first teresa was allwas using at least 1% of yoma.
ability to sense yoka never become useles, only in fight with special claymores who sealed thairs yoma.
if teresa would awakened every of abyssal one, piscila and organization and every yoma would be in grave.
sealing yoma energy is to be able to prevent any pice of yoma to leave your body, but you are still using some yoma, but thats below 10%.

[Playmore]

Teresa was still a little trainee when the Org acquired the babies twins (Jorge and Chuck were their real name btw... joking :D) Rafalea hear the villagers discussion then later in the forest little Teresa found Rafaela eventough she was hiding her yoki.


About Rosemary, for me there's nearly no doubt she was a powerful AB probably close to an AO if not equal. The org has ask to deal with her as fast as possible before she awakened.
Also the fact she lied to Orsay saying she wouldn't have come of it alive if Rosemary was awakened was maybe a way to actually hide the fact she was the real monster... much more than the Org could have fully imagined about Teresa.
For all we know, the org was probably aware that Teresa was really powerful but maybe since she wasn't the show off type they didn't realize she was much more than that.


Oh yeah, I don't want to imagine Teresa awaken... that would be a blasphemy! :D



Mmm thinking of it, maybe Teresa did once got over the 50% release
of yoki...

well she used it not in a fight... At first I thought she had ugly scars due the fusion of yoma parts/blood...
but then showing her naked body to the brigands to avoid conflict and keep Clare safe... who knows actually she released yoki to misformed her body... enough to make them throw up :)

[Chibitea]

i dont think so ..cause as far as i remember her eyes didnt change color at that point ^^

"Jorge and Chuck" ...:lol:

Btw ...just a week or soo for a new chapter :thumbup: ....or maybe not ?

i read this on the OM homepage ...

Oh and a good time to mention this. There will be NO Weekly Shounen Jump next week since it is the Golden Week holidays in Japan.


so if there's no shonen jump ...maybe there wont be any Monthly SQ either ? ...i REALLYYYYYY hope that's not the case ....cause that would be like .....3 months without a new chapter release ..>_< *faints*....xD

[Krasnij Lis]

Lol I'm pretty sure she never went over 10%. It is true that her face never contorts from your links, but you can have 10% yoki and not have a contorted face. If she can take out Prissy with 10%, and Prissy can easily take out an Abyssal One if she gets serious or unleashes her power, she wouldn't need 10%+ to take out normal AB's. Judging from the power of Pris, when she was awakened and when she was at 90% fighting Teresa, Teresa could've killed any of the Abyssal One's with 10%. Priscilla could've gotten 10% more yoki in, so barely any stronger, and when she's at 100%, she could whoop probably ALL the Abyssal Ones at the same time. This would equate to Teresa being able to take out all 3 at 20-30%, and I doubt all of them will gang up if they knew they would die so easily to one Claymore.

I see where you are getting at. but saying Teresa could take on 3 Abyssals based soley on Yoki calculations is far fetched. You got a lot more that just the ammount of Yoki to consider in a battle. Skill, conditions, strategy etc. Yes Teresa was a one of the most powerful Claymores, but saying she could take on three abyssals at once with just 30% Yoki doesn't make sense, besides if Teresa suddenly could take all three on, it would make her a Mary Sue, and Mary Sues= bad.

[jack4s]

meby with 80% yes, but not with 30%
it look like teresa hated and desspised organization.

i allready written whay those bandids allmoust throw up,

claymores bodys are full of scars and signs of hardships.
and there is that yoma meat that was given in thair bodys.
i doubth that thay made a nice inplant of that meat, so it would look realy disgusting that part of thairs bodys

piece of dark skin healed with normal colored skin(white skin-they lost every bit of body color when they become claymore) and oround on border ugly scar. and scars from battles whit yomas and awakened ones.
(is this enoght to be disgusted)

here is proof, when teresa missunderstood, what clare meant.
http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/15/25/

[Playmore]

i dont think so ..cause as far as i remember her eyes didnt change color at that point ^^



http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/13/29/

when she revealed her naked front body... we see her from her back... so we can't really see if her eyes changed or not... and the bandits were to busy watching down there than her eyes. :D
So the possibility she released 50%+ yoki to show a hideous body is still conceivable. :eban:


claymores bodys are full of scars and signs of hardships.
and there is that yoma meat that was given in thair bodys.
i doubth that thay made a nice inplant of that meat, so it would look realy disgusting that part of thairs bodys


Claymore have low to high regeneration capabilities... they can regenerate mostly any scars/injuries they could receive during a battle.
Scars from before the operation to turn them into Claymore can't be regenerate. We have seen a lot of Claymore's naked skins and none seemed to have ugly scars anywhere. (the only part we didn't get to see is erm between the legs >.> and the butt)

The example you took, Clare was talking about the guy who tried to rape Teresa.
That shocking scene made her talk back since it reminds of her past (Clare was used as a "toy" for yomas before she was saved from Teresa).

[kazuki_yuki92]

:D
yes...whad happend with Teresa stomach?;)

[jack4s]

read my post before this one, i add a proof, to my story.

[asilovesblack]

I think all the claymores have ugly yoma parts on their chests. Despite what Playmore said, I never saw a single claymore's chest before. But maybe Clare has the most undamaged one cuz it was Teresa's flesh that she got, not some ugly yoma's meat.

And I kinda disagree that she released 50% just to show em bandits something disgusting. That chest area was already disgusting from the beginning, and I bet all the other claymores' chests are equally revolting. :D

It just so happens that the story only gave highlight to an occurence once. And the chest thing was explained using Teresa. And maybe the reason why people say that only Teresa had an ugly chest is because an event involving the chest never happened to any other claymore. The story tries not to repeat things for the sake of brilliance and uniqueness. :)

[kaize_corleone]

And I kinda disagree that she released 50% just to show em bandits something disgusting. That chest area is already disgusting from the beginning, and I bet all the other claymores' chests are equally revolting.

I agree with what you've said. I do think that every Claymore has a revolting body part/portion under their Claymore uniforms.

It just so happens that the story only gave highlight to an occurence once. And the chest thing was explained using Teresa. And maybe the reason why people say that only Teresa had an ugly chest because an event involving the chest never happened to any other claymore.

Yeah. The manga hasn't shown any naked Claymore so far, right? Right.

[asilovesblack]

About Rosemary, for me there's nearly no doubt she was a powerful AB probably close to an AO if not equal. The org has ask to deal with her as fast as possible before she awakened.
Also the fact she lied to Orsay saying she wouldn't have come of it alive if Rosemary was awakened was maybe a way to actually hide the fact she was the real monster... much more than the Org could have fully imagined about Teresa.
For all we know, the org was probably aware that Teresa was really powerful but maybe since she wasn't the show off type they didn't realize she was much more than that.


Been thinking of that for a while too. The fact that Teresa never told Orsay anything meant that her power was still undermeasured. And also Irene, who deduced that Priscilla would surpass Teresa, never knew that. So... :eban:

[Playmore]

The only chest seen was the one from Clarice... while breastfeeding ^^
Agatha and Priscilla have also shown their fully naked body... but those are fully awakened claymores.

[asilovesblack]

Clarice's chest was not shown. Just her breast :D. That's just awkward.

I believe the ugly parts lie beneath the black cloth thingy that runs along the middle of their chests. And that area wasn't shown.

Anyway, awakened beings, in their human forms, naturally don't have the ugly chest parts, nor any sign that they were claymores. And it's not because they return to their original body either. When we see Priscilla, Riful or Isley walking around like normal people, that's just a disguise cuz Yoma do have the ability to mimick a certain human. And Priscilla and the Abyssal Ones chose their old/original body to mimick. So that's not their original body at all.

:lol:

[jack4s]

those bodys are now only for show and hiding,

and about scars a allready written that once, claymore won't regenerate every scar, they will only close it, or regenareti it if it gets in the way of her fighting yoma, other small scars stay for all the time.

[Playmore]

and about scars a allready written that once, claymore won't regenerate every scar, they will only close it, or regenareti it if it gets in the way of her fighting yoma, other small scars stay for all the time.

Claymore can regenerate any scars/injuries they want, it's only up to them to decide when to do it. Rafaela kept her left eye scar mainly because she wanted to keep it as a reminder of her failure to her sister for decades but she could heal that anytime hence Ilena saying if that's not a scar before pre-yoma fusion it can be healed/regenerated.

Clarice's chest was not shown. Just her breast :D. That's just awkward.

I believe the ugly parts lie beneath the black cloth thingy that runs along the middle of their chests. And that area wasn't shown.


Unless I don't know my own anatomy... breasts are part of the chest ;)
If the area you say that could have the ugly parts between the breasts.. that place is kinda small. So that leave pretty much not a lot of room for whatever could be something ugly.
The black necktie for me is used as dog collar with the sign of the warrior, not for hiding something under :D.

Teresa opened her all front to the bandits.. they were all disgusted to the point of throwing up.
Later that guy tried to rape her... he teared up her front clothes.. He hadn't any reactions... meaning probably that Teresa didn't release yoki to misformed her body like she did earlier.


What would make you throw up if ever Teresa was in front of you naked?
ugly big scars that goes everywhere on the front or ugly misformed front body due to 50%+ yoki release?
:)

[jack4s]

he saw those scars, and tereas said to him if he will do this with that kind of body, but he said that he doesn't care and that he will make her sorry with his rape, but teresa didn't care at all what he said or what he want to do with her body.
so scars were still there, that man wanted revenge, and he knowed that he can't kill her.

and quite a lot of mens would turn away by a small scar, but claymores were full os scars, because they only care about if they can fight and not about thair beauty, so they only regenerate huge wounds, wich would get in a way of them fighting yamas. ant all scars form before becoming half human half yoma stay.

[asilovesblack]

Unless I don't know my own anatomy... breasts are part of the chest ;)
If the area you say that could have the ugly parts between the breasts.. that place is kinda small. So that leave pretty much not a lot of room for whatever could be something ugly.
The black necktie for me is used as dog collar with the sign of the warrior, not for hiding something under :D.

Teresa opened her all front to the bandits.. they were all disgusted to the point of throwing up.
Later that guy tried to rape her... he teared up her front clothes.. He hadn't any reactions... meaning probably that Teresa didn't release yoki to misformed her body like she did earlier.


What would make you throw up if ever Teresa was in front of you naked?
ugly big scars that goes everywhere on the front or ugly misformed front body due to 50%+ yoki release?
:)

Yes, breasts are part of the chest. To clear that up, I was referring to the midrib when I said the chest.

Anyhu, the scar need not to be that wide you know. Maybe Clarice's scar was narrow and went from the midrib down to the stomach like a big slash mark, who knows?

And it is somewhat illogical and very hard to believe that Teresa would do something that bothersome for something that petty. I mean, she never releases more than 10% during battles, why do it when the cause is something so trivial?

And if she were releasing 50%, her muscles would've bulged and veins would've popped out everywhere.

It's just plain insane to suddenly say someone like Teresa would release 50% without much proof you know. :)

[Dantrag]

Well if Irene could restrict the yoki to affect only one of her arms, so that it was working near the limit, I don't see why Teresa couldn't make the yoki only affect her abdomen and torso.

At one point I saw a signature/fanart image of a very slightly clother Miria, OK, she was in the complete nude-section but that author actually did have a very interesting idea of what the claymores actually might have on their bodies. That image depicted that Miria had a very ugly scar that was the shape of her claymore mark, it sort of looked like it was half burnmark/half very crude surgigal scar. Maybe the org just likes to burn-mark their soldiers to have a better chance of identifying their corpses.

[asilovesblack]

Okay, let's abandon the issue of "Teresa's ability to deform her own chest". Let's assume she really can (which is likely). What I'm trying to point out is why. Why would she go through a lot of trouble to release 50%? I mean, again, she doesn't even release more than 10% during battles, why would she release 50% for something like that? She could've just scared them off with her death stare :lol:

And 50%? Just to deform a certain part? I would've believed it if it was 20% or 30%. It took Galatea just a bit above 10% to have super bulging muscles (which was disturbing by the way).

And I think the scar is not just for marking the claymores. I believe it resulted from the whole process of fusing yoma flesh. But nice idea though. Where did you find the fanart? :D

[Dantrag]

I have no idea, I think I saw it at Deviantart, but I'm not sure. I'll see if I can dig that image up, obviously as long as it's not against the rules of the forum, due to the nudity.

[asilovesblack]

Thanks :D

Miria ish so kewl!!! She makes me go MAD!!!

Vote for her Mirage, people, in the "Favorite Technique" poll!

Am so biased :lol:

[Dantrag]

Sorry :/ I already voted for Windcutter because I also liked Flora and felt that her potential was wasted because she was killed of so early. Not that I don't like most of the characters.

*Proud member of the "Farewell Flora, we barely fapped at you"-fanclub*

I did find this one though, I hope that it's not against the rules

http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs21/f/2007/236/4/4/Claymore___yuri_by_BurstAngel.jpg

[jack4s]

a agree with you, teresa would never realise yoma for such a small thing.

about making claymores, we only know that they input yoma meat and blood in human girls, probably oraund chest, and that it is realy paintfull.

[asilovesblack]

Sorry :/ I already voted for Windcutter because I also liked Flora and felt that her potential was wasted because she was killed of so early. Not that I don't like most of the characters.

*Proud member of the "Farewell Flora, we barely fapped at you"-fanclub*

I did find this one though, I hope that it's not against the rules

http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs21/f/2007/236/4/4/Claymore___yuri_by_BurstAngel.jpg

:lol: :lol: :lol: That's just friggin funny!

Oh, and thanks Jack4s. :D

[Dantrag]

Sorry, I had no luck finding it and I spent an hour or so searching. If anyone remembers such an image about a nude Miria, who had big scar, exactly like her claymore insignia, please post it here, thank you.

I regret not bookmarking it now.

[SaroVati]

Lol I would agree now with you guys, Teresa couldn't take all 3 Abyssal One's with 30%, but she could with >60-70%. And plus, there are many reasons why she wouldn't need to go over 30%.

1) Why would the 3 Abyssal Ones EVER get together to take on Teresa?

2) If what people say is true, and Isley and Luci attacked Teresa from behind, if she planned it as a feint, and dodged it, the projectiles would impale the 3rd Abyssal One, which would probably suck lol.

3) If Teresa didn't die to Priscilla, and killed her instead, which she obviously could've if she didn't get cheapshotted, then these 3 Abyssal One's are the only challenge, and my above 2 reasons would make sure she didn't have to go over 30%.

[Playmore]

Okay, let's abandon the issue of "Teresa's ability to deform her own chest". Let's assume she really can (which is likely). What I'm trying to point out is why. Why would she go through a lot of trouble to release 50%? I mean, again, she doesn't even release more than 10% during battles, why would she release 50% for something like that? She could've just scared them off with her death stare :lol:


Reason I see, a scary look was probably not enough to back off a macho wolfs pack. :)
Those men in heat thought they were going to have fun with a top model. How sad for them she offered them a diformed repulsive body... they ran away in disgust :D
2 seconds of 50%+ yoki release helped avoid a conflict and casualities with those normal humans.

Anyway, it's just my little theory and it's fun to talk something different than the usual stuffs we got here.


Sorry, I had no luck finding it and I spent an hour or so searching. If anyone remembers such an image about a nude Miria, who had big scar, exactly like her claymore insignia, please post it here, thank you.

I regret not bookmarking it now.

I was lucky to find some arts in 5 minutes ^^

The theory is nice and interesting with the sign/scar, eventough Miria couldn't have her sign on her stomach as we saw it was normal after she regenerated the big stomach hole she received from the AB when she was with clare/deneve/helen. But the scar/sign could be elsewhere and smaller surely.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/Playmore_OM/Miria_2.jpg

Here's an other with Ilena

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/Playmore_OM/mark_of_the_beast_1.jpg

[asilovesblack]

Reason I see, a scary look was probably not enough to back off a macho wolfs pack. :)
Those men in heat thought they were going to have fun with a top model. How sad for them she offered them a diformed repulsive body... they ran away in disgust :D
2 seconds of 50%+ yoki release helped avoid a conflict and casualities with those normal humans.

Anyway, it's just my little theory and it's fun to talk something different than the usual stuffs we got here.




I was lucky to find some arts in 5 minutes ^^

The theory is nice and interesting with the sign/scar, eventough Miria couldn't have her sign on her stomach as we saw it was normal after she regenerated the big stomach hole she received from the AB when she was with clare/deneve/helen. But the scar/sign could be elsewhere and smaller surely.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/Playmore_OM/Miria_2.jpg

Here's an other with Ilena

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/Playmore_OM/mark_of_the_beast_1.jpg


:eek: That's some crazy art. Nice nice nice. :lol:

[Dantrag]

Play, that's exactly the picture about Miria I was talking about. Thank you. :o

I wouldn't be suprised though if the Org somehow branded their warriors for identification. I mean lets face it when claymores die, they usually do so because they're chopped to bits. Their swords and uniforms are mainly destroyed, their heads, arms etc are often gone too, so some means of identifying the corpse to know exactly whose it is, is nescessary or else, pretty much any claymore would be able to fake her own death by either maiming someone else or dressing up another dead claymore as themselves.

[jack4s]

clare have parts of 3 people in herself, teresa irene and her own,
so do you think that when she partly awakened, showed littre how would look awakened ones, of irene and terese,
1.right and left arm didnt come out the same, so right arm coul show irenes awakened form and right arm clares mix form.
2.teresa usaly used her speed to kill yomas and when she realised, her speed went quite up, so wouldn't be strange if clares awakened legs would represent teresa's awakened form.

clare have in her body 3 maps to how should her awakened form look, but what come out is something between (tereses, irenes and clares map)

[Dantrag]

But that does make it seem like she's very unbalanced. And I think she only has two maps.

Her right arm is 100% Irene, where as the rest of her is a fusion of her own flesh & teresa's yoma/human flesh-mix so basically both the left arms and and her legs awakened form is a result of that mixing. So in a sense both the left arm and the legs could be something that Teresa might have had as well, though it's also possible that the look of Clare is completelly different from the look that Teresa would have had. Because Clare's own flesh is combined with part Teresa's human flesh and Teresa's yoma-flesh, this might have resulted in further mutations and alterations from the original Teresa/yoma & awakened form-concept.

Hopefully though, Teresa wouldn't have been another centaur because that would have made her an Isley-copy.

[asilovesblack]

I think what Clare's awakened form looked like should have also been the same with what Teresa would've looked like. Cuz it was mentioned that when a claymore awakens, the Yoma flesh "takes over" or "devours" the human part completely. Since Teresa's "Base Yoma", if I may call it, is also Clare's own, they would logically have the same awakened form, since technically, the Yoma part that will devour the human part is the same. :)

That is with the exception of the left arm which belongs to Irene, and hence, has a different "Base Yoma".

[Playmore]

Agreed, also I would imagine it being the same or very look alike since for me the human part will affect surely the appearance too.

But then remembering Clare fight against Rigardo... I hope we won't see the full awaken version of it as it seems so uglyyyyy. >.> why not something angelic... like the representation or statue of Teresa/Clare >.<