Claymore XXII

[SilentBuddhist]

Continuing from Claymore XXI.
Tch, I'm slow. >.>"
So Clare really shows up? -is pretty sure she echoed someone's words in the previous few pages- Oh.

If they can take out Agasa without taking any visible damage, I'd be honestly quite surprised. Sure they have trained for 7 years, but Agasa's no pushover, either.
Dantrag, I agree with you. Irene's probably dead. But then and again, we don't know. Really.

pigpie, I'd like that too! :[ Raphaela didn't have much spotlight in terms of combat. Although this chapter is the setup to being able to properly gauge the 7 renegade's abilities. But I still wanted Raphaela [or Riful] to appear! >.>"

have anymore have the 77 by JP or EN version . XD now i juyt have the cn version

I highly doubt he could ever be like Guts....

Thanks. This gives us a proper idea on how this chapter will end.

[ELUNE]

Why isn't the ch77 uploaded yet?!?!
This waiting makes me go crazy!!

[SilentBuddhist]

Yeah, tell me about it...

*kicks pebble*

Well KlebMarkt had Chinese scans, and wany gave a translation on the last thread. We'll just have to go with those, though I can get them up here if y'all want. ^^

[Evilminion18]

Yes all this waiting leads to boredom..which then leads to me thinking again,, and thinking for me is never a good thing....people always get hurt

any idea o wise Silent Buddhist when the chapter will arrive?

[SilentBuddhist]

It should have been yesterday or today...which is weird, coz I thought my prediction was correct 0.o Even E-K (Excel-Kleinwald) said it should be out by then. Well, today is still early for me, so it may come later on today. If not, it's gotta be out tomorrow...

Yeah...it's gotta be...>.<"

[Lucc]

i decided to scanslate the chapter. used that chinese(?) raw that's around since a while.
thats the first time i did that. images are a bit big:/

i used wany1981's (http://forum.onemanga.com/showpost.php?p=271902&postcount=167) trans. credits to him.

megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EEWMY21U

[ELUNE]

It should have been yesterday or today...which is weird, coz I thought my prediction was correct 0.o Even E-K (Excel-Kleinwald) said it should be out by then. Well, today is still early for me, so it may come later on today. If not, it's gotta be out tomorrow...

Yeah...it's gotta be...>.<"

It better be!!! :mad:
( Just kidding:p)

[Scorpio-Girl]

I was going to ask as well.. All those spoiler links.. I was so tempted.. >.>

Every time I see one more RSS Feed- I rush to click it.. :(

[SilentBuddhist]

Still not here! Geez >.<

Ah, well thanks for going through the effort Lucc! It's very appreciated :thumbup: And thanks to wany too for the translations.

Oh yeah...I got 2k posts at last!! :eban: Finally, I got there >.< Now for 3k...I'm not stoppin' now! XD

[MacenKrace]

Why isn't the ch77 uploaded yet?!?!
This waiting makes me go crazy!!

Do you remember when they say do not bother us with why is it not up yet? probably they're still uploading something else or rather busy at the time.

[Necrosis]

Well I'm still waiting for it to be uploaded but since I'm here can I ask what would happen if a Male Claymore (saying if there was one still around who didn't awaken) and Female Claymore got together and had a kid. I think the child would be different since the DNA are fused together unlike a Claymore. What do you guys think?

[Duath]

Waiting is still annoying.


The result would probably be a Claymore...

[Evilminion18]

well if that were to happen imagine if the baby fully awakened lol killer baby it would be like the rabbit from Monty Python

[Necrosis]

I disagree to be honest (unless you give me some evidence or I miss something in the manga if some then please correct me). A Claymore is always fighting the Yoma not to awaken but in this case the Yoma energy would be in harmony meaning he/she cannot awaken or he/she is born awaken. The third result would be they are born as a human. There also the chance that they cannot have children. The DNA would also be fused together unlike a Claymore where the DNA is different and they overwrite each other (unless Yoma uses RNA).

[Scorpio-Girl]

It's a hypothetical situation.. so anyone could just guess the outcome...

And as far as I am aware (studying genetics etc) DNA/genes are passed down.. so a claymore seems like the more obvious creation..

[Useless]

Yoma + human = something that isn't an organism. >.>" (Which means Claymores aren't an organism. Since they are infertile. Which means no kids...)
Like how a mule is infertile because its the offspring of an interspecies relationship.
You don't need to get into the complexities of DNA. Just state a simple fact. I win. ^_^

[Evilminion18]

What if it came out as some sort of perfect hybrid between a human and a yoma a claymore that could fully awaken but retain it's humanity...hehehe

*waiting for claymore*
*waiting for Raki to die*
*making tea*

[Useless]

Well..if that happened, then I'd start, just to be annoying, questioning the other scientific plot holes in the manga. >.>"

[Evilminion18]

huh works of fiction say screw science all the time why would this be any different?

[Useless]

Because I also believe that at one point they said something about the lack of fertility in Claymores..
Maybe my mind is just making things up though.
It does seem to do that a lot.

[Evilminion18]

same here but if they are lacking in the fertility area it could just be that the organizaion idk made it so they can't have babies I mean if i was them i wouldn't want claymores going around making babies.

[Scorpio-Girl]

Yoma + human = something that isn't an organism. >.>" (Which means Claymores aren't an organism. Since they are infertile. Which means no kids...)
Like how a mule is infertile because its the offspring of an interspecies relationship.
You don't need to get into the complexities of DNA. Just state a simple fact. I win. ^_^
Actually the correct term is a 'species' not an organism... An organism can be a bacteria and an infertile organism is still an organism.. That includes the mule.

Claymore contains Yoma blood we have yet to know if it is a species or not- we don't know if they're tried breeding.. etc to give a FERTILE offspring which in turn is described as a species of its own.

[Useless]

Meh...whatever. At least I realized that much Ms. Biology....person...*lapse in wit*
S...Shut up! T_T

Unless the reproduce asexually, which I doubt since they don't like when they lose limbs..>.>", then I'm gonna guess they have smex to mate. Yes, the immaturity is needed.
Anyways, either way, I'm still pretty sure something somewhere was mentioned about Claymore fertility. I won't be bothered to look it up, but I think...>.>"

[Duath]

Hmm, Claymore breeding is impossible, at least thats what I believe.

Here is my reasoning.

We all know that the act of awakening is similar to the experiences felt when having sex. In other words, the intense pleasure felt is also felt during the process of awakening. This reason was the primary one that Male Claymore's failed.

Now because of this fact, when having sex, which is the only way for humans to reproduce, the feelings of awakening would be reproduced. Claymores would be unable to control their yoki, because they would be unaware that they were releasing yoki.

Thus they would be unable to have sex, so they can't reproduce. Its a good argument, I just didn't explain it well. The thing we should ask is what would happen if an AB impregnated someone.

[Useless]

Hmm, Claymore breeding is impossible, at least thats what I believe.

Here is my reasoning.

We all know that the act of awakening is similar to the experiences felt when having sex. In other words, the intense pleasure felt is also felt during the process of awakening. This reason was the primary one that Male Claymore's failed.

Now because of this fact, when having sex, which is the only way for humans to reproduce, the feelings of awakening would be reproduced. Claymores would be unable to control their yoki, because they would be unaware that they were releasing yoki.

Thus they would be unable to have sex, so they can't reproduce. Its a good argument, I just didn't explain it well. The thing we should ask is what would happen if an AB impregnated someone.

Alien would rip its way out of the unfortunate soul's belly?
Then the organization would have to necro Predator, aka Teresa. Then Clare doesn't need revenge anymore..and she also forgets about Raki. Then, it becomes Miria's and Galatea's story!

[Duath]

Alien would rip its way out of the unfortunate soul's belly?
Then the organization would have to necro Predator, aka Teresa. Then Clare doesn't need revenge anymore..and she also forgets about Raki. Then, it becomes Miria's and Galatea's story!

Incoherent posts are amazing.

But thats the idea. Go Galatea + Miria!

[Necrosis]

Hmm, Claymore breeding is impossible, at least thats what I believe.

Here is my reasoning.

We all know that the act of awakening is similar to the experiences felt when having sex. In other words, the intense pleasure felt is also felt during the process of awakening. This reason was the primary one that Male Claymore's failed.

Now because of this fact, when having sex, which is the only way for humans to reproduce, the feelings of awakening would be reproduced. Claymores would be unable to control their yoki, because they would be unaware that they were releasing yoki.

Thus they would be unable to have sex, so they can't reproduce. Its a good argument, I just didn't explain it well. The thing we should ask is what would happen if an AB impregnated someone.

Let's email the writers lol. Next chapter there is a new character who is half awakened.

[Duath]

Another one?

Isn't clare like that?

[Evilminion18]

wow we must be desperate for some claymore action i mean we're debating wether or not Claymores can have children....

[SilentBuddhist]

That's because the new chapter isn't here yet...T_T

I'm usually more active than this. As are many other members but meh, we have those creative(?) fanfics that keep us busy...like the below...

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n82/SirBon/parody.jpg

>.>"

[Evilminion18]

lol... if Raki became that i might hate him less but it's not going to happen...

scarey thought what if Guts were to become a Claymore??

[Scorpio-Girl]

Nothing to do with the 3k aim, of course.. ^.^

Where were they from... Made up..?

[Excel-Kleinwald]

I nearly busted a gut(s). Truly priceless.

[SilentBuddhist]

First, he'd beat the living **** out of Raki until he couldn't cry anymore. Then he'd go into Rabona and cut Agasa in half because that sexy body up there wasn't her real body. Then he'd rebel against the org and kill 'em all! Then Isley...then Pris...then Isley again...then back to Raki...>.>"

Then Teresa would come out of nowhere and take him on and there'd be a battle of the ages :p

[Useless]

lol... if Raki became that i might hate him less but it's not going to happen...

scarey thought what if Guts were to become a Claymore??

He'd awaken and murder the world?
Since there is no Teresa to stop him.
Wow. Teresa is really cheap. >_>

[Tensa Zangetsu]

That's because the new chapter isn't here yet...T_T

I'm usually more active than this. As are many other members but meh, we have those creative(?) fanfics that keep us busy...like the below...

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n82/SirBon/parody.jpg

>.>"

LOL! That was....hilarious.....still laughing now.....

[SilentBuddhist]

He'd awaken and murder the world?
Since there is no Teresa to stop him.
Wow. Teresa is really cheap. >_>

No...

First, he'd beat the living **** out of Raki until he couldn't cry anymore. Then he'd go into Rabona and cut Agasa in half because that sexy body up there wasn't her real body. Then he'd rebel against the org and kill 'em all! Then Isley...then Pris...then Isley again...then back to Raki...>.>"

Then Teresa would come out of nowhere and take him on and there'd be a battle of the ages :p

Notice how I put more detail into mine :p

Eh? Teresa's dead you say?

Well it's a fanfic. That alone is enough to revive Teresa :p

[Useless]

Sure, the battle would be epic, but Teresa would just end up getting bored of him and mutilate him...and then his corpse...and then his soul. ^_^

[Excel-Kleinwald]

Wait! I got it! When Clare fully awakens, she becomes Teresa! Then she totally pwns Guts and everyone else.

[SilentBuddhist]

No it'd be 1/4 of Teresa >.< Still, all you'd have to do is multiply an awakened Clare by 4 and we could make a (somewhat but very unlikely) safe estimate of an awakened Teresa :p

[Tensa Zangetsu]

So Teresa is at the point where she is capable of mutilating someone's soul eh? Don't you think were hating on Raki a little too much? I mean, we havn't even seen him in the last couple months....who knows, maybe he really is like the guy from Berserk now.....not a possibility?

[Useless]

Not a possibility. At all.
Though if it was(contradicting self), it'd be cool..:p
He'd be the equivalent of a Claymore...>.>"

[SilentBuddhist]

Nah, I'd say our hate bandwagon for him is going at a lovely pace. Lovely, though could be better still >.>"

And even if he did...chances are he could only take on someone like Clarice at best...maybe Yuma, but she's kinda worthless anyways >.>"

[Tensa Zangetsu]

Hmmm....a really tough badass Raki.......perhaps taller, more muscles....maybe a some side burns....and a close-shaved beard.....give him a rugged look. cover him in a layer of dirt, add some scars and what do you get? *imagines...then shudders* I guess the concept of Raki=Tough/cool/BA just isn't possible....

[SilentBuddhist]

Yeah...the only other possibility is if he became like Sid, but then he'd just be some bigmouth prick, and we'd continue to hate him :p

[Tensa Zangetsu]

Yeah, but Sid is actually cool.....except he needs a haircut....badly.....yay, 1100 posts

[Duath]

Clare's new ability will be to make clones of herself. Then awaken, then fuse together to create Teresa

[lsumd2011]

A badass Raki, that just sounds like an oxymoron. Well considering that Raki, baring getting his guts munched on by Priscilla, has been studying swordsmanship under Isley for seven years, he's probably pretty darn good with a sword my now. Plus you never know what in blazes Isley has done to the boy in these seven years. For all we know, the next time we see him it could be sporting silver eyes and hair. :p

[Duath]

I doubt it, but meh.

*needs next chapter*

*panics*

AHHHHH!!!


It looks very interesting. What shall be most interesting is to see how they compare (Galatea and the seven)

[pigpie]

I think Raki will turn out like how he still is.Once a wuss always a wuss,except Clarice that is,Clarice is starting to prove mw wrong,I always thought she was a useless person.Raki will appear after the 7/8/9/whatever year gap and appear as a Man,but deep down he is still a wuss.Maybe he has become a ungrateful jerk and went to elope with Prissy,leaving Isley all alone.After that he becomes Prissy dinner.

I think the 7 are now a lot more stronger than Galatea.They were able to train during the 7 year gap and Galatea couldn't because she was hiding in a city.Plus Clare was able deal a lot of damage to Agasa in the last part of the chapter even Galatea was amazed.Maybe Yumas ability are on Par with Galatea and she is the weakest....O.o.....and maybe Clare has reach Teresas' level.

[lion-passby]

who know the other version 77 not cn . may be JAP or EN ... or other language~XD

[SilentBuddhist]

I don't get your question. Not much of it >.>"

If you bothered to read from the first page, there's scans you can download. There's a link to that site...

[Dantrag]

He's asking for a japanese RAW or for english scanlations. Only one is available at the moment and that's in the first page... :/

[SilentBuddhist]

Oh...

Well, like I said, Lucc put wany's translations together with the Chinese scans, and put them up for downloading in that MegaUploads site.

[lion-passby]

i am looking for the primitive and puer 77 pic to make our bbs(http://www.claymore.org.cn/) translation work ..... can u understand ? = = my english poor ?
p.s. end of page 3 is me = =
http://www.tsstorry.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=4061&extra=page%3D1&page=3

[lsumd2011]

I think Raki will turn out like how he still is.Once a wuss always a wuss,except Clarice that is,Clarice is starting to prove mw wrong,I always thought she was a useless person.Raki will appear after the 7/8/9/whatever year gap and appear as a Man,but deep down he is still a wuss.Maybe he has become a ungrateful jerk and went to elope with Prissy,leaving Isley all alone.After that he becomes Prissy dinner.

I think the 7 are now a lot more stronger than Galatea.They were able to train during the 7 year gap and Galatea couldn't because she was hiding in a city.Plus Clare was able deal a lot of damage to Agasa in the last part of the chapter even Galatea was amazed.Maybe Yumas ability are on Par with Galatea and she is the weakest....O.o.....and maybe Clare has reach Teresas' level.

Well last we saw Raki he was training under Isley to become strong enough to protect Clare, (well, minus the part when he was cooking food for Priscilla, which is very funny when you think about it) so I don't think he'll come back as a total pussy. Mind you I doubt he'll be of any real in any battle, I mean he would really have to become a claymore and though that would be very cool, the odds of that happening are slim to none. At the very least he ought to be more mature and not the crybaby that he once was. Truth be told, I'm looking forward to seeing him again, as I'm wondering how Raki's relationship with Clare, Isley and, especially, Priscilla will play out.

About the seven's strength; Miria said that Clare could handle high ranking numbers now, so we can assume that she pretty darn powerful now. Miria is probably on par with Clare and Helen and Deneve are probably only a little behind. As for the others, I don't know, but I'd guess Cynthia's level is that of a single digit, Tabitha and Yuma might around the teens and twenties respectively. However the way Yuma is talking, she might weak as hell, though her manner of talking might just be do to her apparent lack of confidence than a lack of ability.

[Lucha]

Sitting in the front of computer with blackened eyes because lack of sleep for waiting chapter 77 and rotting there while mumbling to myself 'Where's the chapter 77...?'

Well that's happens from feb 1st and still going on...

Where's that d*** chapter 77!?!

Sorry for the sudden outburst...

So..., I've got a bullseye eh...? My prediction of best scenario for the 'Magnificent Seven' to show up at Rabona comes true...

They were able to train during the 7 year gap and Galatea couldn't because she was hiding in a city.

But didn't Galatea came to Rabona only 2 years ago? She could train within those 5 years before comin to Rabona...

About the seven's strength; Miria said that Clare could handle high ranking numbers now, so we can assume that she pretty darn powerful now. Miria is probably on par with Clare and Helen and Deneve are probably only a little behind. As for the others, I don't know, but I'd guess Cynthia's level is that of a single digit, Tabitha and Yuma might around the teens and twenties respectively.

Since Miria, Clare, Helen and Deneve are half awakened..., their ability are growing that they could par with single digit..., but about Cynthia, Tabitha and Yuma...., they never (or at least never mentioned in the manga) past their limit or half awakened..., they just trained hard in this 7 years..., so I believe even Clare could outmatch them...

[Dantrag]

Remember that we don't exactly know when Galatea deserted but considering what happened to Miria (How Deneve/Helen pointed out at the beginning of the north war, that Miria had been through worse situations than the rest), I would say that the organization propably sent Galatea on quite a few suicide missions which might explain how she lost her eyes, so yeah, Galatea too most likelly got stronger.

Clare/Teresa could predict opponents moves without errors through the flow of Yoki and could act accordingly where as Galatea could sense yoki and manipulate it so that the opponents attacks/yoki release would backfire but she could only do it up to a certain level, she propably couldn't sense where the attacks would really land. Fullpower Duph was beyond Galatea's control but she was still able to bring Clare's yoki level back to the safe zone....

Since the 7 years of not using yoki at all, the survivors propably have also developed a more accurate long distance yoki sensing abilities with Tabitha having the sharpest sences (She is the Eye of the survivors where as Galatea was the previous Eye of the Organization). Due to this Clare's own abilities in yoki sensing have propably also sky rocketed. It would also seem that Galatea can now accuratelly sence how much yoki is in an exact spot of an opponents body as seen in the latest chapter but it is still unknown what has happened to her ability of controlling yoki...

[Lucha]

But didn't Audrey state that Galatea desert the org 7 years ago while the mayhem on the north? Perhaps sometime around that, but surely she won't wait a year or two...


It would also seem that Galatea can now accuratelly sence how much yoki is in an exact spot of an opponents body as seen in the latest chapter but it is still unknown what has happened to her ability of controlling yoki...


It's pretty dangerous when you can't see where you'll deflect the incoming you know..., there may be people around get hurt if you do that recklessly... That's probably why Galatea couldn't (or don't want to) use her yoki control ability anymore, but instead switching it to sharpening yoki sensing ability...

[jerros]

This is a great little series but man the wait between chapters is insanity. It'll be another month or so before we find out what happens next...ouch.

[ELUNE]

What do you mean another month or so? Isn't the 77th chapter supposed to be uploaded let's say...tomorrow(or at least this week)??.....OR SO I HOPE...

[mucho]

I already read the Chinese :) ... pretty boring chapter tho, until the end XD

The entire chapter is full of "Ma Ma" so dam annoying =__________=

[Noelle]

LOL, well I thought that added some depth to Miata's seemingly-complex character, but I was shocked...
What, Clarice could wield a sword?!
Chapter 77 is supposed to be out, well, the chinese raws are out, but oddly enough the Japanese raws are nowhere to be found. Now, if I could get the chinese raws from other than megaupload... >.>"

[Stifler]

lol Clarice is not so useless after all. Having low yoki can be a good thing when your enemies can't sense you.

[lsumd2011]

LOL, well I thought that added some depth to Miata's seemingly-complex character, but I was shocked...
What, Clarice could wield a sword?!
>.>"

Hehe, true. Honestly, Miata needs a good bonk on the head or something. That girl is definitely a few sandwiches short of a picnic. I wonder if she will start calling Raki "dada" when/if she meets him, wouldn't be the first time one of Claymore's resident psychos got attached to him after all.

Yeah I have to admit Clarice surprised me too. First damn show of skill since she has shown since she debuted. (That part where she got her sword stuck in a tree a few chapters back still makes me laugh.) Well with Clare and company showing up, Miss former #2 is officially ****ed. The only question left is whether Clare is going to do the honors herself or with help from the other 6.

[Stifler]

I'm thinking that Clare will spend her time talking to Galatea and catch up on old times, while the rest of the 7 run around A-whatever-her-name-is-again and dice her into little meat cubes. Guess Rabona won't have to worry about a food shortage for some time...

[lsumd2011]

Meh, my guess is the dicing will come first and the talking second. Either way this battle is over. My guess is that one of two things will happen next chapter. The first one is that the fight won't even last past five or six pages and the rest of the chapter will be an extensive conversation between Clare, Galatea, Miria, and Clarice. The second thing that might happen will be that the fight will drag on for the rest of the chapter and the next chapter will be all talk. Personally I'm hopping for the first option, as this fight has dragged on long enough and I want to learn why Galatea deserted. Heh, either way the entire fight between the seven and the awakened one with be one giant WTF moment for Galatea, considering she can only see yoki and none of the seven are producing any.

[Stifler]

All I can say is that it will be a real big "eye opener" for Galatea when the next chapter comes.

[18fenrir]

Actually i doubt Galatea can't sense yoki even if it's minuscule or if the stoogey seven's.

You must recall that Galatea did sense Clarice and Miata's arrival despite being blind, and also while they were on yoki suppressant pills. So i do believe her ability to sense is on a whole different level.

Also another point, even for Rapheala who had suppressed her yoki for so long, young nibling Teresa was able to sense it from a whole town away. :)

[wany1981]

there is chinese raw out because the production for this issue was leaked to them 2 weeks ago.. while the jappaness real issue is late this week. so japaness raw is late too

[Noelle]

You must recall that Galatea did sense Clarice and Miata's arrival despite being blind, and also while they were on yoki suppressant pills. So i do believe her ability to sense is on a whole different level.
I agree with fenrir. -is trying to defend her queen- :D

It was not indicated that Galatea totally didn't miss Clare & gang's Yoki;
at one of the pages, after she regained consciousness, she did mention something about another Yoki. And she did tell Agasa. [at least, that was what I gathered while skimming through the raws] It shows that she's able to sense them; she just wasn't given a chance to recall to who the Yoki signature belonged to. She might know the others' Yoki signatures as well, since she was the 'eye' of their organization.
Also another point, even for Rapheala who had suppressed her yoki for so long, young nibling Teresa was able to sense it from a whole town away. :)
-decides to attack that statement :p-

It was never mentioned Teresa sensed Raphaela from a whole town away. If I remember correctly, Teresa only asked Raphaela why her Yoki was so faint, and Teresa emerged only minutes after Raphaela passed the town. Also, her trainer then found her and told Raphaela that Teresa often ran away into the forest. Is there any evidence that she was in the town when she sensed Raphaela and followed her faint Yoki? It seems more plausible that Teresa was nearby Raphaela when she picked up Raphaela's flow.

[pigpie]

Although Galatea and Clare has "history" together and they might probably exchange words,lets remember about Galk and the other dude,I wonder how they will respond when they see Clare again,the Claymore who saved their ***,plus now she has more friends than ever before.

Hmmm....so Teresa is stronger at sensing than Galatea,Teresa can sense a skilled Claymore who has never once released her yoki before,who is Raphy even when she was a child.Galatea didn't really sense Clare,did it happen in the chapter,I thought it was just the fake spoiler.

I really like how Clarice could actually injure Agasa...well to a small extent,but still she couldn't even kill a yoma,or we have never seen her kill one.I guess her bond with Miata has grown stronger,and Miata looks more human in the chapter,her face isn't hidden as much anymore.

I have just Updated my Claymore spoof...it is quite short because I am now spoofing the whole chapter 77.

[pigpie]

Sorry for double posting

UPDATED

http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=5561&page=3

took forever...this spoof is a bit perverted.So it is rated PG!!

CLICK THE LINK

[SilentBuddhist]

I saw it. Great work as usual pigpie :D

Hmm, though I'm a little concerned with the second one, granted Rhyssa warned you about...what was it again? Having the black coat get an egg up his ***? I don't really mind it, but you never know...

Well it still provides laughs in these dark hours of waiting for delayed scans :D

[lion-passby]

Happy Spring Festival from the CN CM fans

CV game just have a look

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkDEFOpiTnE

[SilentBuddhist]

Very nice...reminds me of when I was hyped up to see the anime. I enjoyed most of the anime, but the episodes 20 and up really lost sight of the series.

Oh well >.< Pretty good trailer, thanks for the link :thumbup:

[Dantrag]

Ahhh, the japanese raw is finally out, so soon we should get our hands on the scanlations as well.

For those who like to mess around or can translate japanese:
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25418

*remembers the last few eps of claymore, remembers wussy Raki* Bloodpressure.... rising.... must.... resist... the urge... to... kill *punches Raki once, kicks him, kicks him when he's down, then starts stomping on him non-stop* That kid really needs to grow some balls

[lsumd2011]

Very nice...reminds me of when I was hyped up to see the anime. I enjoyed most of the anime, but the episodes 20 and up really lost sight of the series.
What happened with all the episodes after 20 was probably due to the series ending more than anything else. For those who don't read the manga, Raki wondering off with Isley and Priscilla while Clare and company get their asses handed to them would have made a really crummy ending. Welp, heres hoping they'll do like Hellsing and make an true to the manga OVA series once the manga finishes.

About Raki.....can I join in? I brought a blow-torch and a pair of pliers. :devil: Honestly though, I hope to god that guy grew some testiculars during these seven years. That or got eaten, either one is fine by me. :D

[Evilminion18]

Now Isumd and Dantrag plz remember to rub salt in his wounds

*gives both of them a barbwire baseball bat*

have fun ^_^.

Now the japanese raws being out is the best knews i had today.

[MacenKrace]

Sorry for double posting

UPDATED

http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=5561&page=3

took forever...this spoof is a bit perverted.So it is rated PG!!

CLICK THE LINK

I saw that a long time ago. Btw nice job but I don't think it's PG.

[Scorpio-Girl]

It's finally here, well on OM. Wow... just wow.

I really thought Clarice was going to run away and I was hating her more than I did.. but she regained herself a little more when she didn't..

The 'magnificent 7'... came just in time. :eban:

[Greg]

Gah.... why does it end there? This is one of those mangas you wish wasn't a monthly.

[Carlosmaster]

Ahh, that chapter 77 was awesum XD Specially the ending, now Claire is guna kick sum butt!

[Scorpio-Girl]

Gah.... why does it end there? This is one of those mangas you wish wasn't a monthly.
It felt surprisingly short too.. I guess I get too excited and expect too much. :o

Yes! Galatea can join the big 7! I'm hoping she does anyway.. And that Clarice.. *shakes fist* I still don't like her though >.<

I wonder what will happen to Miata/stupid Clarice now.. :/
I remember her saying to the guards.. "It's no use!" or something when they were trying to defend themselves against Agasa..
No sh** sherlock.. :rolleyes:

[Duath]

Hmm, while people say they are surprised about Clarice, this chapter just made me hate her more. She is a female version of Raki who can occasionally do something useful, but then will break down and cry. Her display was absolutely pathetic, and her jealousy of Miata even more so.

But yay Clare!

[Jammerjoint]

Currently I am highly annoyed at Clarice, she's a total coward. Doesn't even stand up for herself or try to get stronger. Not to mention she's totally clueless.

And really now...I'm getting so deprived of this manga I don't know why I bother to read it at all. I just wish we had through Ch.100 all of a sudden. I wonder how much the author has written by now...

[Duath]

Currently I am highly annoyed at Clarice, she's a total coward. Doesn't even stand up for herself or try to get stronger. Not to mention she's totally clueless.

And really now...I'm getting so deprived of this manga I don't know why I bother to read it at all. I just wish we had through Ch.100 all of a sudden. I wonder how much the author has written by now...

Haha, very true. I just really hope that she doesn't join the 7. I would consider stopping the manga for a second if she did that.

[Evilminion18]

lol Clarice and Miata hugging i'm laughing at this "mama mama" i don't think i could ever taken that seriously.

[Jarome]

Very nice chapter, Miata might stop just bein' a freak and finally listen to what Clarice has to say.

The very last picture was totally amazing, I guess we were all waitin' badly for it but it's comin' the big 7 are gonna rape some awakened ***!!!

Gah.... why does it end there? This is one of those mangas you wish wasn't a monthly.
Amen!

[Dragon_fire1995]

Yes, I felt this chapter was surprisingly short as well. I wish we had more!

Teehee. Just thinking about it gets my blood pumping. I'm such a total geek.

Yeah, Clarice is just a female version of Raki. This I agree. I've always disliked her; I hate wimpy, not useful, crybabies. This chapter just made me dislike her more.

Woop! The seven appeared! I wish we had the next ten chapters already..

[Leorio]

The Raki hate seems to be strong here but I think hes a good character and not a wimp like many claim. Raki always trys to fight to the best of his ability and don't run unless told by Clare while clarice is just a total wuss who depends on miata to protect her.

[devilswing]

i what i thought that the 7 warrior will come and help wow i was surprised clarise was just all talk putting justice who betray the organization will died and yet she was just scared he even became a warrior and not knowing that she'll have to face much stronger yuma or awakened beings what is she fool she should just died in the battlefield while crying begging his life

[lsumd2011]

Well look at things this way, maybe Clarice will take Raki's place as the manga crybaby and Raki will return all big and badass. Well one can hope anyway, I really don't want to see two friggen winers in the same manga, on the same team.

[erieozze]

wow i really cant wait for the next chapter. this series is getting wayyyy better now:thumbup:

[Necrosis]

Well look at things this way, maybe Clarice will take Raki's place as the manga crybaby and Raki will return all big and badass. Well one can hope anyway, I really don't want to see two friggen winers in the same manga, on the same team.

I can actually see that happening now. Although this kind of reminded me of whats going on in bleach so I wasn't surprised when the seven of them came.

[Dragon_fire1995]

Isumd- Amen to that. Hopefully so. I was tired of the love interest being a wimp, which always makes me mad.

[blackmagister]

Was glad that they finally went back to the main story. Similar to the show Heroes they spent way too much time on unimportant characters when the series started up again . Three chapters in a monthly release without including anything about any of the main characters was really stupid. I mean it was kind of interesting to see humans fight an Awakened Being but it didn't matter at all to the story.

[erieozze]

Was glad that they finally went back to the main story. Similar to the show Heroes they spent way too much time on unimportant characters when the series started up again . Three chapters in a monthly release without including anything about any of the main characters was really stupid. I mean it was kind of interesting to see humans fight an Awakened Being but it didn't matter at all to the story.

that is true. but the people didnt want to lose their city despite the fact they cant kill awakend beings

[lsumd2011]

That is true. But the people didn't want to lose their city despite the fact they cant kill awakened beings.
Yeah, plus it will definitely add to Clare's awesomeness when she offs an awakened one that hasn't even been scratched as of yet.

[bugref]

With This event I think the seven ghost warrior started to rally its own group, it might be possible that galatea will soon join the group as well as Miata and Clarice. fight Abyssal one is difficult to defeat head on i guessed this is the first step in going against the organization and the abyssal ones...

Looks like they are starting their own campaign against the organization and the abyssal ones...

Franky House and One Manga Many Thanks to all of Guys, God Speed...


I am Hoping Yagi Norihiro, can Published 2 manga episode/month, a month episode is quite long to wait

[lsumd2011]

Well Galatea joining is almost a given, but Miata and Clarice I'm not so sure. I mean its true Clarice kinda questions the organization, thanks to her interaction with Miata, but I don't think its reach the point where she's going to go rogue just yet. Of course maybe once she talk with Clare and Miria she might jump ship, but we'll only know in the next few chapters. Either way I want this little arc to end, I'm more interested in seeing if Raki is still and pansy or has grown a pair, and I especially want to see what that "interesting thing" Riful was talking about several chapters back.

[ZerenFate]

wahhh damnn this series just keeps getting better.
too bad its a monthly, isit monthly per chapter or monthly per volume?

anyways, please dont die Galatea =( =(

[Dantrag]

Monthly per chapter and I don't think we need to worry about Galatea dying anymore, Agatha is nothing like Rigaldo, so the 7 should have no problems with her.

[blackmagister]

Yes Agatha is not like Rigaldo in that she has no back story also. Yet they spent so long fighting her...

Hadn't thought about Galatea and Miata joining the Claire's group but I guess it's a given. If they didn't join it would be stupid given how much time they spent on these characters.

Off topic Dantrag your sig says " She took out half of my body and stoly my heart"
Stoly?

[lsumd2011]

I think he meant "stole".

Anyway I wish this manga would at least be bimonthly, waiting a month for this damn thing is painful. :/

[bugref]

I dont Think Agatha pose a serious challenge against the 7 ghosts, if you can recall they even outran riful with ease. it terms of speed and strength dont know where Agatha might be. Given the 7 years of training whoaning their skills, dont think this Agatha can match with any of Them XD...

[Dantrag]

Thanks for the correction blackmagister, it was in a too obvious place for me to notice that typo, lol x)

[ELUNE]

Yupiyaye!!! It's uploaded!:D:thumbup:
I've just read the 77th chapter.
It amazes me...too bad we have to wait so much fr the next ch...
I agree, these series are just getting better and better!
In the middle of the chapter I was just so mad...and I'm still mad...
HOW DO YOU EVEN DARE MESSING WITH MY BEAUTY QUEEN??!!!!:mad:
The famous 7 came up so the anger decreased a bit...but still...
The ending was brilliant...THEY ARE REALLY CRUEL....making us so tense!
Anyway, the fact that Clarice could pick up a sword without getting it stuck somwhere useless suprised me the most.
And about Raki... however grownup he'll be; he will still be a WUSS!Because even though he'll maybe...and just maybe...grow up phisically...his LITTLE BRAIN will still be the same...:lol:

p.s. the 77th chapter is up and Prezzy is still not around? What happened to her ?

[MacenKrace]

I think he meant "stole".

Anyway I wish this manga would at least be bimonthly, waiting a month for this damn thing is painful. :/

If you like the manga and the story quality then don't complain. It's fine the way it is.


I am Hoping Yagi Norihiro, can Published 2 manga episode/month, a month episode is quite long to wait
It's called issue so don't confuse it with the anime episodes. Also Jump SQ appears once a month so I don't think they will change their habit just for the fans. Also don't complain about the fact that it's monthly. The story is already short and you want to make it even shorter. I personally prefer quality over quantity so if you don't like the fact that it's monthly go read naruto or bleach.

[lsumd2011]

If you like the manga and the story quality then don't complain. It's fine the way it is.
Doesn't mean I cant wish for the next chapter to come out quicker, especially after the latest cliffhanger. It's not like I'm berating the author for taking a month between chapters, I just wish I could get my claymore fix more than once a month. :p

[htcheng]

As much as I want to see this weekly and all, I still say monthly is the best, that way the writer won't be rushed and turn such a great manga into trash. Take their time and give us a better storyline I say. Only complain I have is I wish someone else invent a time machine so all of us can fast forward a few month in advance and find out what happen :thumbup:

[Playmore]

we want quality :thumbup:

nobody wants a half done job on this precious work. As long the time they used is not wasted, it's cool for me.

Can't wait to see those ghosts from the past slashing trough Agatha :devil:

..would be interesting to see how the weaker ones have improved.

*go out and train with my claymore...*

[mangatoread]

Huhuhuhu...
It is too long..
Sometimes I forgot about last issue..
ANyway chapter 77 is awesome...


my blog (http://mangatoread.blogspot.com)

[MacenKrace]

Doesn't mean I cant wish for the next chapter to come out quicker, especially after the latest cliffhanger. It's not like I'm berating the author for taking a month between chapters, I just wish I could get my claymore fix more than once a month. :p

Somehow even if he could Jump SQ only appears once a month.

[ELUNE]

I agree...I also prefer quality to quantity...that way the manga is much more interesting!

[samurai89]

Why isn't the ch77 uploaded yet?!?!
This waiting makes me go crazy!!


You aint the only one....

[Blancwulf]

this show needs more fan service, if u know what i mean :P

[SilentBuddhist]

You aint the only one....

It's up already...though since I read the Chinese scans, I kinda felt disappointed at the chapter. It was over too fast T_T

[ELUNE]

It's always over too fast...but hey, that just proves that it's good and interesting.

[samurai89]

It's up already...though since I read the Chinese scans, I kinda felt disappointed at the chapter. It was over too fast T_T
It's always over too fast...but hey, that just proves that it's good and interesting.

Agreed


And not to stray off topic but does anyone know if the claymore anime will have a second season

[lsumd2011]

Nah I don't think so. The might do an OVA series or something when the Claymore manga reaches its end, like they are doing with Hellsing Ultimate.

[Duath]

I hope not, they kinda butchered the story line.

It was good until they changed it >_>

[Lucha]

Finally, ch 77 is here... just a day before chinese new year... (Happy Chinese New Year anyway..., for those who celebrating of course...)

The 'magnificent 7'... came just in time.

True, right at the last pages... >.<
At first I thought there's fake spoiler on the forum indicating Clare cs. showing. But apparently they do appear... at the last pages...


Well Galatea joining is almost a given, but Miata and Clarice I'm not so sure. I mean its true Clarice kinda questions the organization, thanks to her interaction with Miata, but I don't think its reach the point where she's going to go rogue just yet.


Failed to purge Galatea even after they defeated Agasa, Clarice surely gonna get some punishment from the org... No way she's gonna back to them and says 'Guys, not only we failed to kill Galatea, but also get our **** kicked by some ghosts from the north... and moreover, Miata is half dead' if she's smart enough.
The only option is like... 'Let's hang out with these (7) girl awhile...'

We'll surely find out next month...

[Duath]

Finally, ch 77 is here... just a day before chinese new year... (Happy Chinese New Year anyway..., for those who celebrating of course...)



True, right at the last pages... >.<
At first I thought there's fake spoiler on the forum indicating Clare cs. showing. But apparently they do appear... at the last pages...



Failed to purge Galatea even after they defeated Agasa, Clarice surely gonna get some punishment from the org... No way she's gonna back to them and says 'Guys, not only we failed to kill Galatea, but also get our **** kicked by some ghosts from the north... and moreover, Miata is half dead' if she's smart enough.
The only option is like... 'Let's hang out with these (7) girl awhile...'

We'll surely find out next month...

Thats exactly what I'm afraid of. Having them join would

A) Make movements made by the 7 extremely difficult, as Clarice and Miata cannot suppress Yoki

And

B) Being annoying since Clarice is awful at everything

Either they are both going to have to be on surpressant pills for a while, or they will be left alone by the 7

[lsumd2011]

I hope not, they kinda butchered the story line.

It was good until they changed it >_>

Well I think the reason they changed the storyline at the end of the anime series was due to them ending the anime. I mean if they had stuck to the storyline, Raki would have just tromped off to the south with Isley and Priscilla while Clare and company get their asses handed to them. For those who don't read the manga, it would have made for a really crappy end.

[kokokiki]

if clare did that to agatha after supressing her energy and training for 7 years emagine if teresa was still alive and have done the same as clare she could've killed them all in a heart beat

[Duath]

Well I think the reason they changed the storyline at the end of the anime series was due to them ending the anime. I mean if they had stuck to the storyline, Raki would have just tromped off to the south with Isley and Priscilla while Clare and company get their asses handed to them. For those who don't read the manga, it would have made for a really crappy end.

Or they could have continued it >_>

[lsumd2011]

Well they didn't have enough manga story left at the time to make another anime season...ah well, what's done is done.

[Noelle]

A) Make movements made by the 7 extremely difficult, as Clarice and Miata cannot suppress Yoki

And

B) Being annoying since Clarice is awful at everything

Either they are both going to have to be on surpressant pills for a while, or they will be left alone by the 7

I doubt the organization gave them a whole big bunch of suppressant pills like we were given in the RP. :p Probably the 7 will leave them alone, and as for Galatea... she most likely would follow the 7, no? She can't be staying in Rabona after all this. Also Clare probably has an obligation to warn her that Riful's after her, come to think of it.

But on the bright side, Clarice joining the 7 would make Yuma, Tabitha and Cynthia one of the elites already.

[Stifler]

Well I think the reason they changed the storyline at the end of the anime series was due to them ending the anime. I mean if they had stuck to the storyline, Raki would have just tromped off to the south with Isley and Priscilla while Clare and company get their asses handed to them. For those who don't read the manga, it would have made for a really crappy end.

Actually, this was how I would have ended it. I would have followed the manga all the way, past the War in the North arc and following the time skip. After which, when we have Clarice going to the North for their almost fatal AB hunt, the series would end with Clarice waking up after the attack and finding all the swords stuck in the ground. The camera would pull away from the scene, revealing 7 cloaked figures standing a distance away. After which, the scene would end, maybe with a "To be Continued" sign showing after the credits.

[tonton]

What a brilliant chapter - maybe it's because I've been in withdrawal since the last chapter! What a fantastic last page - it's always impressive when the cavalry arrives. Woot!

[htcheng]

Well I think the reason they changed the storyline at the end of the anime series was due to them ending the anime. I mean if they had stuck to the storyline, Raki would have just tromped off to the south with Isley and Priscilla while Clare and company get their asses handed to them. For those who don't read the manga, it would have made for a really crappy end.


No one is stoping them from making a second season to continue the storyline, but changing the anime ending like that totally butcher claymore storyline, which we all came to love because of the manga.
I totally stop watching after episode 20, never even finish the whole series nor do i even care to find out what happen in the end, once i heard that they change the storyline I just totally don't care about the anime anymore.

[ion]

Yes! finally! new claymore chapter with those pretty soldiers team comes up :P
I hope they can save Galatea and uhh fr the anime, I hate the ending to the core!

[MacenKrace]

Yes! finally! new claymore chapter with those pretty soldiers team comes up :P
I hope they can save Galatea and uhh fr the anime, I hate the ending to the core!

You're no the only one.

[samurai89]

Yes! finally! new claymore chapter with those pretty soldiers team comes up :P
I hope they can save Galatea and uhh fr the anime, I hate the ending to the core!

I prefer the anime having a different ending to the manga because i already know what will happen if the storyline was not changed so i am still wondering what will happen in the anime,in short i just dont want to see the same thing twice.

Well that's just my opinion.

[MacenKrace]

I prefer the anime having a different ending to the manga because i already know what will happen if the storyline was not changed so i am still wondering what will happen in the anime,in short i just dont want to see the same thing twice.

Well that's just my opinion.

That's just stupid... let's you have a script and decide to make a movie from it but the director changes your ending and half of your story... that sucks, believe me. It's like reading a book and watching the movie which is completely different from it.

[chezkimo]

yh i agree. and anyway, they ciould have done a better ending to begin with.

Love the new chapter btw!! thought it was wicked the way clare absolutly destroyed agasa's leg. hopefully those 7 will be able to take care of her.

I HOPE gal joins the gang, i mean it would be great and they would be unstoppable.

[j0wjow]

wow. that was outstanding.
not just the warriors of the north appearing in the end,
but the whole chapter itself.
i thought miata would do someting like super regeneration.
anyway, at the last pages, i was like:
"oh God, please let it be clare, please let it be clare"
*lets out a girly scream when he sees clare and the others*
LOL.
the way she said that a town that has a link with her will not get destroyed so easily was SO cool.
my regards to the author for that line.

cant wait for chapter 78!:thumbup:

[Dantrag]

Chezkimo, a word of advice. Your signature image doesn't follow the signature rules, it is way too big. The maximum allowed size for it is 500 pixels x 150 pixels and max filesize is 100 Kb. I suggest you resize it before the mods take a notice.

And like I said before I doubt the 7 will have real trouble with Agatha, she's nothing like Rigaldo, who was considered next most dangerous AB after the abyssal ones, not counting Priscilla of course..

[MacenKrace]

yh i agree. and anyway, they ciould have done a better ending to begin with.

Love the new chapter btw!! thought it was wicked the way clare absolutly destroyed agasa's leg. hopefully those 7 will be able to take care of her.

I HOPE gal joins the gang, i mean it would be great and they would be unstoppable.

One warrior is enough from what we're seen.

[Hynavian]

Hey captain, good to see that you're doing fine and thanks for dropping by the forums again. Also, your bad habit dies hard signature is still with you. :lol:

PS: SB, I'm unable to keep track of the various topics for I fell back 2 threads behind during my tests/assignments period. The idea was a bad one. :o

[MacenKrace]

Hey captain, good to see that you're doing fine and thanks for dropping by the forums again. Also, your bad habit dies hard signature is still with you. :lol:

PS: SB, I'm unable to keep track of the various topics for I fell back 2 threads behind during my tests/assignments period. The idea was a bad one. :o
The only thing you missed was a newbie invasion with "wow the last chapter was so cool" and other types of variations of this sentence.

[Evilminion18]

So sorry if someone has already asked this...

but what if Clarice and Miata report back to the organization about the 7 claymores interfering any chance that Beth and Alicia along with some other claymores might be sent on a nice seek and destroy mission by the organizion... just a thought, who knows maybe one of the blackcoats is observing this sitution right now..

[arjay2813]

i think clarice will realize those 7 are REALLY strong and join with them (or be forced to join them) in order to do w/e they do from this point on (save raki, bring down those guys that make Claymores out of women, etc), and miata will follow her. i think beth and alicia will be sent to bring down the 2 of the abyssal ones that are left since i think thats the original reason they were created

[htcheng]

As strong as the magnificant 7 are I think they are still not up to the lvl of an abyssal one nor are they up to the lvl of alicia or beth, if I have to take a guess they are probably like number 2.5 in between. Since the current number 3 Audrey is totally pathetic compare to Teresa's time #3 Ilena. But that only include clare and her 3 buddies the other 3 Uma, Tabitha, and Cynthia the manga never mention they have half awaken so I doubt they improve that much if they are still just claymore, by my guess they maybe up by 5-10 number if I have to take an estimate.

[Dantrag]

If the Organization sends Alicia and Beth against Isley, they will run into Priscilla and that is game over for both Alicia and Beth. Priscilla (Organization seems to have their own suspicions about how strong Priscilla truly is) is hell of a lot more powerfull than the abyssal ones. BTW, technically Alicia is now one of the three abyssal ones since Luciela is dead. Technically Raphaela was also an abyssal one as well, even though she hadn't awoken, her power was equal to Luciala but she is MIA. Though she could propably match Alicia in power if she's still alive and those two would fight. It's more plausible that those two will get sent after Riful, that would be a fight I'd love to see but by doing so they would lose their only potential ally in fighting Priscilla, that would be of any use.

[Noelle]

think clarice will realize those 7 are REALLY strong and join with them (or be forced to join them) in order to do w/e they do from this point on (save raki, bring down those guys that make Claymores out of women, etc), and miata will follow her.
I have thought about that, but it doesn't really make sense to have a stranger from the new generation join them. Galatea I can understand, since they were both from the same class and Clare has a debt to her, but Clarice and especially Miata? They were first sent to hunt down Galatea and Miata stuck to that order very blindly, as we have seen. Clarice also doesn't seem to have the courage to disobey the org's orders... yet. Would she disobey the organization and join the 7 renegades, along with Miata?

I think the time's just not right for them. Clare and gang can extract some hardcore information from Clarice before leaving, though. :p
i think beth and alicia will be sent to bring down the 2 of the abyssal ones that are left since i think thats the original reason they were created
Yes, I agree. That Alicia and Beth are on Riful's trail could be the reason why Riful is currently keeping a low profile. [I think she did mention something along the lines of that.] Duff could have already been killed by A&B. We don't know. Miata was able to overpower the Yoki suppressant pills.

If Alicia and Beth were on pills, found Riful & Duff, and then attacked by soul linking, Duff could have died, but Riful managed to escape. Perhaps this situation gave rise to Riful's words that she 'found something interesting', one that needed a good Yoki sensor/manipulater like Galatea, or even Clare.

[MacenKrace]

i think clarice will realize those 7 are REALLY strong and join with them (or be forced to join them) in order to do w/e they do from this point on (save raki, bring down those guys that make Claymores out of women, etc), and miata will follow her. i think beth and alicia will be sent to bring down the 2 of the abyssal ones that are left since i think thats the original reason they were created

What world do you live in? Do you think some people who can't even hide their youki will be allowed to join them just for the pleasure of being discovered? NO FREAKING WAY!!!!

As strong as the magnificant 7 are I think they are still not up to the lvl of an abyssal one nor are they up to the lvl of alicia or beth, if I have to take a guess they are probably like number 2.5 in between. Since the current number 3 Audrey is totally pathetic compare to Teresa's time #3 Ilena. But that only include clare and her 3 buddies the other 3 Uma, Tabitha, and Cynthia the manga never mention they have half awaken so I doubt they improve that much if they are still just claymore, by my guess they maybe up by 5-10 number if I have to take an estimate.

Actually since the former number two had a part of his body destroyed yow realize Clare must be somewhere near Alicia's power ans with the help of her comrades she could possibly kill Alicia.