Claymore XVII

[SilentBuddhist]

Continuing from Claymore XVI.


HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!


6 PM? Its 11.52 AM on the 31st over here ;D


Anyway, errr Claymore discussion....

What do you think of a Claymore giving birth? Would the result be something like Clare? No powers at all?

poor Miata
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I like the pics.

And gopod topic, claymore giving birth.
Oh wait, wouldn't it be quite impossible for them to concieve (not that anyone would want to do it with thier ripped up and experimented bodies) because of the damage they've recieved in thatarea.

HOWEVER, for all we know, clae or clarice might be able to concieve! And if it was so, i believe it'd be the same as giving birth to a mixed raced baby. if the mother was half yoma hlaf human, and the father was human than it would be:

3/4 human
1/4 yoma

If it's clare's then:

7/8 human
1/8 yoma

Happy New Year to you all :thumbup: *glomps everyone in 1MMCM*

Interesting, Claymores giving birth. But if that happened, then the balance between human and yoma would turn in favor of humans, considering the father is human.

What about a failure like Clarice, would the ratio be the same as it is if the Father was human and the Claymore was 1/2 and 1/2?

[chezkimo]

hmm, interesting!

AH! new theory. What if Clarice was the result of a claymore giving birth. i mean, we are all saying that there's a mystery behind clarice. And maybe the org took clarice when she was a baby and decided to take her to the org and train her thinking she could become as powerful as any other claymore. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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y'know, there are too many things to talk about in claymore. When are we gonna get our own section dammit. It's OM rank #5!!

[SilentBuddhist]

Interessant, indeed ^^

But then again, according to your ratio Clarice would be another Clare. And I don't think Clarice was the result of another Claymore like Clare giving birth, as she is the only 1/4 yoma warrior.

But at the same tame, we can assume the org did their "creation process" on Clarice if she were 1/4 yoma, but since she was already part yoma to begin with, the process didn't go so well, for whatever reason. Hmm...

EDIT: Yes, yes. Hell, we should even have our own title! 1MMCM Member or something. E-K said it too, we're so organized it's almost as if we're not even in OM :lol:

[chezkimo]

yh. in see what you mean by the hmmm. why is that clarice was even put into the ranks of the 47. i'm sure there was more than one failed experiment during those 7 years. Why was clarice picked out. And why did they fill the space of #47 with clarice in the first place. I'm sure it would have been no loss just to leave the area without a claymore. lets face it, it dosn't matter if calrice was in that area or not!

The author must have summit planned. Y'see, this is why i enjoy claymore more than the other ones that come in weekly. because it's unpredictable and you can discuss about it!

[SilentBuddhist]

Indeed, stuff like Naruto is very predictable and spoiler discussions aren't really necessary...Which is why we call the diehard fans "Narutards" ^^

Well, if there were more than one they may have either died very quickly or had more fighting capabilities than Clarice, and thus are in higher ranks than her, but most likely still in the 40's. The Org could be desperate to keep their reputation and fill in the spots with anyone and anything as long as it could swing a sword. Plus, there are 47 regions on the continent to cover, each covered by one Claymore. Not having the desired amount of 47 would be bad fr the Org as well as the continent.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

We need sub threads...and kick naruto out...but it has too much mass appeal (damn ninjas with magic are beating girls with giant swords?? what has this world come too >.>)

Well many of the continents are boned if they have a claymore lower then rank 30 protecting it....those are just useless...or fillers as Miria said. The org is trying to keep face so maybe clarice is slightly stronger then the other experiments?

[Duath]

hmm, interesting!

AH! new theory. What if Clarice was the result of a claymore giving birth. i mean, we are all saying that there's a mystery behind clarice. And maybe the org took clarice when she was a baby and decided to take her to the org and train her thinking she could become as powerful as any other claymore. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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y'know, there are too many things to talk about in claymore. When are we gonna get our own section dammit. It's OM rank #5!!

Haha I agree completely! We want our own section. We are already on what the 17th thread?

As for birth, I think that all Claymores should be able to give birth. I don't think that their body make up was changed by the fusion of Yoma flesh, they are just able to utilize yoki. When Teresa revealed her body to the bandits, it was gross, but when we see ophelia/clare's its fine which is strange, but leads me to believe that when not releasing yoki, their body is perfectly normal.

What scars were created can be healed with Yoki, as we see with Clare, for before she becomes a Claymore she has lots of scars on her back, but after, these are gone. Using this healing ideal, "That area" can be healed as well, and they can have kids!

EDIT: Also, if Clarice can breast feed Miata, doesn't that show that CLaymore bodies are at least somewhat normal? Maybe Clarice is a mother, because, I think, woman can only produce Milk after being pregnant? (Correct me if I'm wrong please.)

[Seraphiel]

wahh why was this chapter so small ? and why do people say that it's going to take 3 months for the next chapter to come out ? O.O i'm gonna die T_T

[SilentBuddhist]

Or Agasa for that matter :p

It could be me, but perhaps when they awaken, that scar or whatever is on their front torso disappears completely. It heals up because of the yoki used to heal it...

Perhaps certain areas of a Claymore's body weren't found necessary by the Org, so they removed those internal organs, but never did a good job of patching up afterwards (appearance-wise). But somehow, they grew back and the org never knew it! :eek:

Hmm, perhaps releasing the tiniest bit of yoki (from Duath's explanation) gives the body a grotesque figure. Or perhaps it's the other way around? Because when Ophelia awakened, her body was normal (I think most AB's practically release yoki without even knowing it, but that's just me).

Eh, I'll have to think a bit more about this and back it up if I have to, I don't think I'm going anywhere with this :p

[Tensa Zangetsu]

EDIT: Also, if Clarice can breast feed Miata, doesn't that show that CLaymore bodies are at least somewhat normal? Maybe Clarice is a mother, because, I think, woman can only produce Milk after being pregnant? (Correct me if I'm wrong please.)

This is so very wrong......but I won't go into specific detail >.>

wahh why was this chapter so small ? and why do people say that it's going to take 3 months for the next chapter to come out ? O.O i'm gonna die T_T

It's a monthly series...if you can't wait then go die for all I care...>.>...j/k?

huh....I just read the new chapter...so...just to clarify, Agatha was hurting Miata but she was so focused on killing galatea that she ignored it?...and no one else noticed? >.>....

[Seraphiel]

i wish claymore could be a weekly series. Why is it monthly when the amount of pages is the same as a weekly manga ? i'm not complaining or anything, just wondering why.

[SilentBuddhist]

If that happened, we would get less action ^^"'

Hmm, probably because raws may not be easy to find and translate. If I remember right, Claymore has more complicated Japanese symbols than most other shonen manga.

[Seraphiel]

ohh interesting. Anyway Galatea is hot ^_^

[Tensa Zangetsu]

I bet in the next chapter clarice will tell miata to fight with Galatea...if she doesn't then I will be quite displeased.....

besides, if claymore was weekly the art wouldn't be as good and the storyline might become...worse?

[SilentBuddhist]

Indeed, although, Miria is even sexier in my opinion. :eban:

Anyways, topic...argh, I lost my place. >.<

Now this is nothing more than spam -_-"

I'll have to say the same thing though. It's not like Agasa will let them leave anyhow.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

Miria eh? *commences the power of PS...*

[SilentBuddhist]

0.o This will be interesting...

Hmm, I suppose the soldiers won't be doing anything else though. Unless their skulls are thicker than we thought...

[Duath]

This is so very wrong......but I won't go into specific detail >.>



It's a monthly series...if you can't wait then go die for all I care...>.>...j/k?

huh....I just read the new chapter...so...just to clarify, Agatha was hurting Miata but she was so focused on killing galatea that she ignored it?...and no one else noticed? >.>....

Whoops :D

Apparantly thats what happened, it shows how stupid Miata is, and how she doesn't do anything but what she is told to do. It also shows how absolutely kick *** Agatha is.

Using the Organization's rule that you cannot kill humans, won't Clarice effectively be breaking this rule by not protecting the humans and letting them die at Agatha's hands?

Ahhh, so much to talk about!

WTB OWN SECTION!

[chezkimo]

yeah. That's why i don't like miata. coz she's stupid like that. HOWEVER, if she had her own indpeendant BRAIN and wasn't crazy she could of been the "Riful" of her generation. Fits the discription, small, child-like, potential #1. In fact, if i didn't know any better i'd say she was the mix of ophelia and riful. except even more crazier than ophelia and even more younger than Riful.

And yh, Agasa rocks. Not only has she got a naked yoma form, she also kicks ***. LOL!

And yh, about our own section thing. I know, perhaps there are other people who are saying they want thier own manga to have it's own section, but common, to be fair, we have done loads more threads than the others, and there IS enough to talk about to fill a whole section up.

And the members of the 1MMCM culd be the moderators of the section. :D

[SilentBuddhist]

The more I hear it, the more tempted I am to either PM Greg or put it in the Suggestions and Feedback Section...or maybe even the Private Forum, but that's probably unnecessary. :D

Still I must say I am tempted to ask about it...but I don't really have a constructive argument at the top of my head.

[Seraphiel]

you can just say that if naruto, one piece and bleach have their own section, we should be able to seeing that claymore is 1000 times better than all 3 of these mangas combined. seriously. i dont understand how people can LOVE mangas like naruto and the likes better than Claymore.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

Cause they're narutards? well One piece is good and so is Bleach but they are good in a different way then Claymore

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd172/Jollydevil6/MiriaSigcopy.png
it's a little plain....

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd172/Jollydevil6/MiriaSigcopy-1.jpg
a little less plain?

[SilentBuddhist]

Indeed they are Narutards and therefore are oblivious to the awesomeness of other manga >.<

It is a little plain, but still quite nice. Thanks TZ.

[18fenrir]

Nice picture. I like Miria's expression. Is.. she blushing? aww ..

Oh and i sure hope the general statements such as "this manga is better than that" shouldn't cause any displeasure. Everyone has their own tastes :)

But considering the content and discussion that has been going on, why shouldn't there be a sub-forum? :) it certainly does seem that you peeps are going rapidly from theories to discussions to character idolising that just one general thread may not suffice ^^

ps. guess i should comment something about the new thread.. I still think Agatha isn't cool. She's just showing her evil sadistic ways and wounds/pain isn't art imho. (well.. on some people may be it is.. )

But i'm surprised no one has yet to comment on Miata showing her first weakness in battle. Her acknowledgement of pain to Clarice almost pains my heart should that actually be a reality. Oh and surprise surprise, Galatea has still managed to survive after taking blow upon blow. Guess that is the advantage of superior yoki on a defensive warrior although we still don't know if she is similar to our slasher 4 half-awakened :)

*whew*

[Useless]

I'm going to once again try to go here..I might get confused with all the in depth conversations though...I'm only a casual reader...>.>

Obviously people think differently...I like One Piece better than Claymore.....Bleach is on the same level as Claymore for me, and Naruto can burn! (After it finishes...>.>)
Anyways, people like them for the direct mainstream appeal. Its like reality tv...>.>

[kokokiki]

could someone please tell me who is agasa becuse i thought that it was beth as in beth and elecia and if not other former nomber two is lucilia right ???then when was this agasa number two and i think that 1 irene 2 galatea 3 miria 4 clare from the scale of beuty

[SilentBuddhist]

Agasa as of now is from an unknown generation...but some of us assume she's from Riful's time, including myself.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

could someone please tell me who is agasa becuse i thought that it was beth as in beth and elecia and if not other former nomber two is lucilia right ???then when was this agasa number two and i think that 1 irene 2 galatea 3 miria 4 clare from the scale of beuty

well currently Alicia and beth are current 1 and 2....I forgot which but I think Audrey is 3...no clue who the rest are....pehaps rachel is 5...

Agasa was the number of a generation before them...(she is that tentacle monster who Galatea is fighting)

[SilentBuddhist]

That's most likely it. And yup, Audrey is #3, and Rachel is #5. Lune could be #6 or 7...

[Duath]

Agasa as of now is from an unknown generation...but some of us assume she's from Riful's time, including myself.

The only reason I think that she is not from Riful's time is that if she was, wouldn't Riful have recruited her after she awakened? If we look at Isley's generation, he recruited all the people that he could, and so it would make sense for Riful to do the same.

[SilentBuddhist]

It's also possible she wanted nothing to do with it...but then again this is Riful we're talking about, an Abyssal, so Agasa wouldn't really have a choice, would she :p

But just her personality makes me think Riful...

But at the same time, Why didn't Isley recruit Duff then? Sure, he's slow, but still insanely strong.

[Darkwing Bahamut]

Nothing really happened in ch76, it was quite a slow chapter. I'm surprised that Galatea didn't realize Miata was being attacked the whole time until she noticed her movements slowed down. With her Yoki reading skills she should have known, even IF she was distracted trying to defend herself...

well currently Alicia and beth are current 1 and 2....I forgot which but I think Audrey is 3...no clue who the rest are....pehaps rachel is 5...
It was stated in one of the side panels in ch74 that Alicia & Beth became inactive after the events of the North, which could mean that they are no longer the current 1 and 2.

The only reason I think that she is not from Riful's time is that if she was, wouldn't Riful have recruited her after she awakened? If we look at Isley's generation, he recruited all the people that he could, and so it would make sense for Riful to do the same.
Maybe the power difference between those 2 isn't as great as, say between Isley & Rigardo. Meaning Riful isn't powerful enough to make Agatha her underling, lol. Though I don't know what led people to assume that Riful and Agatha were from the same generation.


But at the same time, Why didn't Isley recruit Duff then? Sure, he's slow, but still insanely strong.
Hmm, maybe Duff just prefers Riful?

[SilentBuddhist]

But Duff was #3 in Isley's generation. Weaker than Rigardo, theoretically.

Hmm, but then again, Duff complains a lot :p

[Duath]

I think that Riful was possibly before Isley's time, or a bit after, which means that she had enough time to recruit Duff to her side, and protect him from the wrath of Isley. In addition, Duff is the number 3, and there seems to be a large difference in power between number 3 and 2, meaning that Isley, perhaps, didn't want Duff.

[SilentBuddhist]

Isley is from the first generation of Claymores. In other words, he's the very first #1. I think Riful came the next generation afterwards, or a few generations afterwards. But Isley was part of the first generation of all Claymores.

[chezkimo]

Yep, that's right. Isley was the first #1 generation, Duff aswell, because the first generation were all males.

Riful's genreation was the frist female one and officiolly the second claymore generation. she was the first female #1, and the youngest #1 recorded i believe.

The reason why Riful didn't have Agasa as an underling is because Agasa is way too aragant and vain to be anyones underling! Mind you the reason why i thought she was from Riful's time is because we know many of the #2's in many of the claymores generation. #2s live long, and possibly live through many generations. The generation we know least of is Rifuls.

And about the other mangas thing. I can see why they can be very appealing but the big difference is that those mangas are more about quantity than quality and in my personal opinion, thier plots kinda get weaker as they go along (bleach, prime example) Claymore has remained consistant since it started and give the perfect balance of simplness and complexity. The main idea is simple - there are claymores who hunt yoma. However, it's the plot, that uses the right complexity, getting thicker and going into deeper darker secrets, such as the organisation. See, perfect balance.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

also, claymore hasn't reached the end of an arc yet. I thought the same way about bleach before the SS arc ended but then it kind of went downhill in terms of story wise....It's starting to pick up again though but it is still too predictable whereas Claymore is shrouded in mystery

[Hynavian]

yh. in see what you mean by the hmmm. why is that clarice was even put into the ranks of the 47. i'm sure there was more than one failed experiment during those 7 years. Why was clarice picked out. And why did they fill the space of #47 with clarice in the first place. I'm sure it would have been no loss just to leave the area without a claymore. lets face it, it dosn't matter if calrice was in that area or not!

Haha I agree completely! We want our own section. We are already on what the 17th thread?
I have been reading a few pages of posts in this thread about this new section thing.

My opinion? I'm not for it.
We have already discussed almost all topics to death and if we're to have a new section, what are we to discuss?

Unless you guys want something boring like what the others are doing: Whats your favourite character?, Who's stronger? Pit this character against that character, etc kind of topics.

Besides Greg did mention, we can create multiple threads on Claymore in this section if we are specific in the heading. Its just that none has done that.

What scars were created can be healed with Yoki, as we see with Clare, for before she becomes a Claymore she has lots of scars on her back, but after, these are gone. Using this healing ideal, "That area" can be healed as well, and they can have kids!
I think the mangaka just contradicted some of his theory. The mangaka hinted that wounds before one becomes a Claymore is not "heal-able". Take for example the arc where Irene met Raphaela. She asked whether her eye lost happened before she became a Claymore, hence, I derive that disabilities before they become a Claymore will carry forward with them even when they become one.

EDIT: Also, if Clarice can breast feed Miata, doesn't that show that CLaymore bodies are at least somewhat normal? Maybe Clarice is a mother, because, I think, woman can only produce Milk after being pregnant? (Correct me if I'm wrong please.)This is so very wrong......but I won't go into specific detail >.>
If you notice, Clarice is not breastfeeding Miata with milk. Clarice was just a pacifier (did I spell it right?). Ok, not going into the details.

It could be me, but perhaps when they awaken, that scar or whatever is on their front torso disappears completely. It heals up because of the yoki used to heal it...
I feel that when they awaken, they become a completely different species altogether. Hence, it's normal just to have different capabilities and a different body to begin with.

i wish claymore could be a weekly series. Why is it monthly when the amount of pages is the same as a weekly manga ? i'm not complaining or anything, just wondering why.
The mangaka is but only human. He cannot come up with ideas, draw, edit, clean, publish etc in a week? I would have cried overwork and find a new job. Different people do things differently at a different rate.

If that happened, we would get less action ^^"'

Hmm, probably because raws may not be easy to find and translate. If I remember right, Claymore has more complicated Japanese symbols than most other shonen manga.
Claymore is detailed in plot line as compared to some *cough* other manga where they speak little and hit everyone silly to death. In my opinion, it is a little too complicated for kids as some seinen manga, like Gunslinger Girl (GSG), used words that are easier. But it won't be a good judge since the protagonists are all kid in GSG and kids use easier words to communicate with each other.

[Hynavian]

Using the Organization's rule that you cannot kill humans, won't Clarice effectively be breaking this rule by not protecting the humans and letting them die at Agatha's hands?
Ah I have been thinking about this too. Will the organization blame the warriors if humans die indirectly? Take for example Ophelia throwing Raki to an AB. If the AB eats Raki as a result, was it the warrior's fault?

My conclusion is that the organization does not care if it's an indirect death. The Claymores can let the whole town die and they will not punish the Claymores. They will only if their swords pked the civilians.

And the members of the 1MMCM culd be the moderators of the section. :D
Oh goodie, I will apply for the Claymore mod should there be a section for Claymore.

But i'm surprised no one has yet to comment on Miata showing her first weakness in battle. Her acknowledgement of pain to Clarice almost pains my heart should that actually be a reality. Oh and surprise surprise, Galatea has still managed to survive after taking blow upon blow. Guess that is the advantage of superior yoki on a defensive warrior although we still don't know if she is similar to our slasher 4 half-awakened :)
I have always find Miata irritating but after this chapter, I felt sad for the little kid. The sight where she cried for her mother and complained of pain was heart wrenching and I can't help but pitied her. Becoming a Claymore at such a young age, having to weird a sword, killing monsters, being attacked etc. Kids should be doing more fun stuff like being loved by their parents, studying or playing tag with their friends instead!

I take back my "mad kid" remarks on Miata.

I'm going to once again try to go here..I might get confused with all the in depth conversations though...I'm only a casual reader...>.>

Obviously people think differently...I like One Piece better than Claymore.....Bleach is on the same level as Claymore for me, and Naruto can burn! (After it finishes...>.>)
Anyways, people like them for the direct mainstream appeal. Its like reality tv...>.>
*Chill*
18fenrir already defended the manga preferences of the other fans.

Hmm, maybe Duff just prefers Riful?
Just like how Clare prefers Raki.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Emoticons/4e5dd44a.gif

I think that Riful was possibly before Isley's time, or a bit after, which means that she had enough time to recruit Duff to her side, and protect him from the wrath of Isley. In addition, Duff is the number 3, and there seems to be a large difference in power between number 3 and 2, meaning that Isley, perhaps, didn't want Duff.
Yeah, Priscilla looks more cute and sexy as compared to Dulf (from the point of view of Isley). Priscilla doesn't ask much and she just follows him around. And she's a powerhouse.

[heppy]

i tot this chapter is rather slow.. like not much things happened.. which is very sad.. now need to wait for a month for another chap again.. hahas

[Duath]

Ok lets see here...

About Rafaela, don't we learn that she got that scar from her sister, because we see her clutching at her eye, and she wanted to keep it as a memory? In that sense, it was a scar after she became a Claymore...

And also about the blame thing, didn't Teresa worry that if she just left Clare to die, the organization would blame her for the death? When re-reading the Teresa chapters, anything that can be considered "your fault," (leaving someone, leading someone somewhere, etc.) is punishable, or at least thats what I got.

[Hynavian]

About Rafaela, don't we learn that she got that scar from her sister, because we see her clutching at her eye, and she wanted to keep it as a memory? In that sense, it was a scar after she became a Claymore...
Yup but Irene asked whether Raphaela's wounds were from before she became a Claymore. Hence, giving me the impression that wounds where one suffered before they become a warrior, stay.

And also about the blame thing, didn't Teresa worry that if she just left Clare to die, the organization would blame her for the death? When re-reading the Teresa chapters, anything that can be considered "your fault," (leaving someone, leading someone somewhere, etc.) is punishable, or at least thats what I got.
Ah I did thought about this point too but I feel that Teresa was just trying to find an excuse so that she can help Chibi Clare. Another way of looking it would be Teresa was afraid that the bandits would stab her in the back as she had offended them earlier and that the bandits would say that she pushed Chibi Clare off the cliff should she die at that spot.

Hmm..., what do you think?

[SilentBuddhist]

I too thought it was Teresa's way of having a reason to help Clare back then. Either that or the Organization can find just about any excuse for a human death and a Claymore was involved one way or another.

[18fenrir]

Ah I did thought about this point too but I feel that Teresa was just trying to find an excuse so that she can help Chibi Clare. Another way of looking it would be Teresa was afraid that the bandits would stab her in the back as she had offended them earlier and that the bandits would say that she pushed Chibi Clare off the cliff should she die at that spot.

Hmm..., what do you think?

Ah I have been thinking about this too. Will the organization blame the warriors if humans die indirectly? Take for example Ophelia throwing Raki to an AB. If the AB eats Raki as a result, was it the warrior's fault?

My conclusion is that the organization does not care if it's an indirect [death. The Claymores can let the whole town die and they will not punish the Claymores. They will only if their swords pked the civilians.


That would almost head us into the realm of lawyer discussion :lol: i.e. would the consequences of your actions result in the death of another? I dare say that considering the slightly primitive ways of their world, they wouldn't have bothered with that. But it's a good train of thought since the organisation is practically dictating the fates of the warriors, any reason they find may suffice. :\ insubordination for instance. I doubt that Ophelia's actions went unnoticed, it's just that she is the sort of warrior that the organisation would love. Mad dog style, would do the dirty job of even ridding a fellow warrior and all that she does is so far in accordance with the organisation's motives.. which is rid itself of troublemakers. (both Miria and Clare have been targets of her)

But Duff was #3 in Isley's generation. Weaker than Rigardo, theoretically.

Hmm, but then again, Duff complains a lot :p

*thinks* i doubt Rigardo may have been stronger than Duff in his awakened form. But since he's dead, discussion is fairly futile.. As i recall, Rigardo = speed + fingernails. Duff has overwhelming armour (despite that having several weak points) and strength. I imagine it may be a battle for Rigardo to land enough hits to put Duff out and Duff holding back till he scores an blow that ensures victory.

I have been reading a few pages of posts in this thread about this new section thing.

My opinion? I'm not for it.
We have already discussed almost all topics to death and if we're to have a new section, what are we to discuss?

Unless you guys want something boring like what the others are doing: Whats your favourite character?, Who's stronger? Pit this character against that character, etc kind of topics.

Besides Greg did mention, we can create multiple threads on Claymore in this section if we are specific in the heading. Its just that none has done that.


I think the mangaka just contradicted some of his theory. The mangaka hinted that wounds before one becomes a Claymore is not "heal-able". Take for example the arc where Irene met Raphaela. She asked whether her eye lost happened before she became a Claymore, hence, I derive that disabilities before they become a Claymore will carry forward with them even when they become one.


If you notice, Clarice is not breastfeeding Miata with milk. Clarice was just a pacifier (did I spell it right?). Ok, not going into the details.

Claymore is detailed in plot line as compared to some *cough* other manga where they speak little and hit everyone silly to death. In my opinion, it is a little too complicated for kids as some seinen manga, like Gunslinger Girl (GSG), used words that are easier. But it won't be a good judge since the protagonists are all kid in GSG and kids use easier words to communicate with each other.

Frankly, about that sub-section thing.. Well, it would allow discussion to be easier read and stuff but ahh each to their own eh ;)

*wonder why is Rapheala's wounds being discussed* Her eye was a result of her sister's awakening, the reason it hasn't been healed is because it's a memory or perhaps a stigma upon herself of that incident.

yep Clarice = Pacifier.. hahaha in my head, she's like the comfort pillow of Miata but even in that somehow it seems like she has FAILED to take care of Miata :p

hmm.. Gunslinger Girl eh? *i think i shall finally watch that show on animax lol*


Oh goodie, I will apply for the Claymore mod should there be a section for Claymore.

I have always find Miata irritating but after this chapter, I felt sad for the little kid. The sight where she cried for her mother and complained of pain was heart wrenching and I can't help but pitied her. Becoming a Claymore at such a young age, having to weird a sword, killing monsters, being attacked etc. Kids should be doing more fun stuff like being loved by their parents, studying or playing tag with their friends instead!

I take back my "mad kid" remarks on Miata.

Just like how Clare prefers Raki.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Emoticons/4e5dd44a.gif

Yeah, Priscilla looks more cute and sexy as compared to Dulf (from the point of view of Isley). Priscilla doesn't ask much and she just follows him around. And she's a powerhouse.

*Supports Hynavian should that happen*

*Supports Hynavian even more for Miata reasons*

DIE RAKI DIE! haha

Eh? Isn't Duff like a "Big-Dumb" version of Prissy? True that priscilla doesn't ask much but considering she isn't as subtle in finding food as say Duff, that could be? Isley is just ga-ga over Prissy and now.. jealous of Raki :p

Nothing really happened in ch76, it was quite a slow chapter. I'm surprised that Galatea didn't realize Miata was being attacked the whole time until she noticed her movements slowed down. With her Yoki reading skills she should have known, even IF she was distracted trying to defend herself...

It was stated in one of the side panels in ch74 that Alicia & Beth became inactive after the events of the North, which could mean that they are no longer the current 1 and 2.

Maybe the power difference between those 2 isn't as great as, say between Isley & Rigardo. Meaning Riful isn't powerful enough to make Agatha her underling, lol. Though I don't know what led people to assume that Riful and Agatha were from the same generation.

Hmm, maybe Duff just prefers Riful?

Perhaps even though she read the yoki of the attacks, she assumed that Miata would have dodge them, hence she concentrated only on those that were aimed for her. It's not like eyes that assimilate all information that is presented before it. She has to selectively collect those information since she is reading yoki flows.

Alicia and Beth are selling beauty products to humans at the moment :lol:

Naaay from Galatea's previous words and now and stuff (thinks this has been said but reiterates) Galatea and Clare and Jean were no match at all for Riful. Galatea and Miata at their best would rival the Blood Rain.. The power gap between Galatea, Clare and Jean combined shouldn't be far away from Galatea and Miata combined. If you consider that Galatea grew in yoki during her time to make up for the difference between jean and clare compared to Miata.

But meh it's more like Riful takes Duff in because he likes her, she likes him, he's still useful and and stuff like that which has been discussed in a previous thread :p *yea i'm just lazy)

because he's the only one that can accept me without breaking

[SilentBuddhist]

A question we probably already discussed though...What exactly does she mean "accepting me without breaking"? I always figured he was just that thick skinned, but if it were that wouldn't she just say that? Or maybe it was some sort of abuse he had to put up with that could have killed him...hmm :/

[Stifler]

Or they could be having some fun at night...:devil:

[SilentBuddhist]

L...ol :lol: That can be taken in so many ways >.<

And Clare and the gang are busy with their parties :lol:

[18fenrir]

hehe yea that has been discussed without a definitive conclusion.

I still hold my thoughts that considering Riful to be a talent and genius(first to reach the pinnacle of female claymores and first AB of that generation), her personality flaws are perhaps devastating to those around her. *thinks* what was the quote.. ah yes.. i think it may have went like this "To first Become a God, you must first drive those around you mad." i can't remember where i've heard this line but it kinds of makes sense to me. *thinks he reads into these too much* anyhow, or it could simply be that riful's ab form usually slices and dices everything around her too much and only duff's armour withstood that :p

[Tensa Zangetsu]

I just read the teresa chapters agains just for fun and I forgot how good they were ^.^

Wow Teresa kicked clare alot in the beginning...so anyways, Teresa killed all the bandits that were at the village right?....the org probably found out cause one of the black hooded guys were watching but he just stood there watching without even stopping her...and I'm not sure where he's even watching from >.>

[Noelle]

-dies from reading through so many pages-

I always thought Riful's remark there was dirty, indicating what they do at night... :devil:, but it could also mean that Duff's armor is tough enough to handle the pressure Riful's ribbons can exert on an Awakened Being if she's not careful.


About Rafaela, don't we learn that she got that scar from her sister, because we see her clutching at her eye, and she wanted to keep it as a memory? In that sense, it was a scar after she became a Claymore...
It was her way of showing regret for the incident. Sort of like you feel responsible for someone's death and so you inflict damage on yourself, but hers was she felt responsible for her sister's Awakening, and so refused to let her eye regenerate in memory of her guilt. Rubel himself deduced later on that she wanted to kill Luciela, therefore making up for her mistake in the past.

As for the Teresa thingy, the black coat was standing on a rooftop of a house if I recall correctly. [don't ask me how he got up there.]

DIE RAKI DIE! haha
I personally think Clarice and Raki would make an excellent couple. The Useless Couple, that is. >.>"

Will the organization blame the warriors if humans die indirectly?
If they did blame the warriors, then half the Claymores will have to be obliterated. I don't think it's impossible for no human to die when a low-ranked Claymore is locked in combat. Well, it won't happen all the time but it should have happened at least once.

Besides, if that was the case, then the Claymore would also be held responsible for the humans that die during the time taken for the Claymore to reach a town after receiving her mission.

It was stated in one of the side panels in ch74 that Alicia & Beth became inactive after the events of the North, which could mean that they are no longer the current 1 and 2.
Databook 3 lists Alicia & Beth as the current Number One and Two of Clarice's generation.

Anyway, even if it didn't say that, becoming inactive does not mean they have 'resigned' from the ranks - if they did, they would be announced dead to the other Claymores, as is the case of Raphaela after the Luciela incident. They are probably still Number One and Two - simply not doing any missions, and staying in the organization HQ all the time maybe.

Before Alicia's completion in the Northern War, Miria knew hers and Beth's ranks. But since Alicia wasn't completed, I'd assume Alicia was inactive before the Northern War as well. That indicates that unless a Claymore is announced dead to others, they cannot drop their ranks [with the exception of deserting of course], and can only become inactive. Perhaps the organization is wary of Isley's strength and so keeps Alicia & Beth close to them, just in case Isley decides to try anything funny.

I'm surprised that Galatea didn't realize Miata was being attacked the whole time until she noticed her movements slowed down. With her Yoki reading skills she should have known, even IF she was distracted trying to defend herself...
I thought the same too. Agasa may have pretty good concealing-Yoki skills like Riful, although the strength of Riful's Yoki in the Witch's Maw arc still didn't escape Galatea.

By the way, Galatea's Yoki sensing is considered a passive skill, no? While she was still with the organization she might have picked up many different flows in her sensing range, but had to focus on a few for her position as the 'eye'. She might have had to blot out the other flows - not that she couldn't sense them, but just not take notice of them.

In the situation where she was being attacked by both Agasa and Miata, she would tend to focus on the flows that have hostile intent towards her, and blot out the rest. So Agasa slowly injuring Miata might not have been noticed by her because she blotted out all other flows which didn't have the intention of attacking her, in order to focus on Miata's and Agasa's strikes.

It's just a theory by the way, don't shoot me. >.>"

[PsychoSushi]

Chapter 76 seems shorter than usual...

I have a feeling that Clare, Miria and the rest will be dropping by Labona in the next few chapters.

[MacenKrace]

Chapter 76 seems shorter than usual...

I have a feeling that Clare, Miria and the rest will be dropping by Labona in the next few chapters.

and who are you?

[Stifler]

He's a new guy around here...Go easy on him, Macen. :P

[Noelle]

XD, welcome! :lol:

Chapter 76 was 23 pages, no wonder you'd find it short. I found it short as well... a normal Claymore chapter is around 35 - 30 pages, no?

I don't think Clare & gang will be dropping by Rabona. They were headed South; Rabona is in the West, there's no reason for Clare & gang to make a sudden detour to the West before heading for the South again.

[MacenKrace]

XD, welcome! :lol:

Chapter 76 was 23 pages, no wonder you'd find it short. I found it short as well... a normal Claymore chapter is around 35 - 30 pages, no?

I don't think Clare & gang will be dropping by Rabona. They were headed South; Rabona is in the West, there's no reason for Clare & gang to make a sudden detour to the West before heading for the South again.

Fate cannot be tempered with. You cannot tell what the future awaits. Only the mangaka can.

[Noelle]

Fate cannot be tempered with. You cannot tell what the future awaits. Only the mangaka can.
... Which is why the above is purely my opinion and speculation.

[Hynavian]

A question we probably already discussed though...What exactly does she mean "accepting me without breaking"? I always figured he was just that thick skinned, but if it were that wouldn't she just say that? Or maybe it was some sort of abuse he had to put up with that could have killed him...hmm :/Or they could be having some fun at night...:devil:L...ol :lol: That can be taken in so many ways >.<
And Clare and the gang are busy with their parties :lol:I always thought Riful's remark there was dirty, indicating what they do at night... :devil:, but it could also mean that Duff's armor is tough enough to handle the pressure Riful's ribbons can exert on an Awakened Being if she's not careful.

If it's Prezzo, my 8th sense tells me that he will support all your "dirty comments" wholeheartedly.

Besides "toughness"of the hide, I think it can refer to their guts or daringness. Not many can even stand properly when they face an fully transformed Riful. Take a look at Audrey, she was so scared that she had to pee on the floor, much less retaliate or to fight back. Dulf probably was so one brave man or did not had enough sense to fear Riful. :lol:

It was stated in one of the side panels in ch74 that Alicia & Beth became inactive after the events of the North, which could mean that they are no longer the current 1 and 2.Databook 3 lists Alicia & Beth as the current Number One and Two of Clarice's generation.

Anyway, even if it didn't say that, becoming inactive does not mean they have 'resigned' from the ranks - if they did, they would be announced dead to the other Claymores, as is the case of Raphaela after the Luciela incident. They are probably still Number One and Two - simply not doing any missions, and staying in the organization HQ all the time maybe.
I'm with Noelle on this. They are still the number 1 and 2 as shown in Databook 3. At least, the number 1 and 2 spots are accounted for.

Furthermore, Alicia and Beth being inactive is no big news. Not many has seen an "active" Alicia before the 7 years arc anyway. Be it in the province or by the other warriors.
Chapter 76 seems shorter than usual...
I have a feeling that Clare, Miria and the rest will be dropping by Labona in the next few chapters.
and who are you?He's a new guy around here...Go easy on him, Macen. :P
That's Macen for us, ridding spammers and new comers who would soon run away after reading his comments.

[MacenKrace]

... Which is why the above is purely my opinion and speculation.

True, but I don't bother thinking too much about it. It's much better this way.


That's Macen for us, ridding spammers and new comers who would soon run away after reading his comments.
That was just a question. From where I come from you usually introduce yourself before entering a thread and giving your opinion.

[chezkimo]

*Dies from reading so many pages*

damn claymore hard fans, you guys have too much to say.

Anyway, about what riful said. The whole "he's my boyfreind" thing, just means that he's her right hand man. They don't do stuff together. And if they do, how can they, with all that metal armour-skin. Ew. And Riful hasn't got anything from the waiste down. She's got normal body, from her head, till her waiste. From there it's just ribbons!!
Basicly, by what she meant, Riful just meant that he was worthy of becomig her right hand man, because he could take even Riful's attacks.

But Prezzy, about Audrey peeing her pants. It wasn't Riful's AB form, that made her. It's coz when riful split her head, (which probably revealed her true yoki power) when Audrey sensed her true yoki, THAT made her pee her pants!

Now, talking about how Agatha is strong...

How long do you think she'd last against riful (those tow have very simular styles)
Also, how about Agasa VS Rosemary? (y'know rosemary, #2 in teresa's generation)

[SilentBuddhist]

*Dies from reading so many pages*

damn claymore hard fans, you guys have too much to say.

Anyway, about what riful said. The whole "he's my boyfreind" thing, just means that he's her right hand man. They don't do stuff together. And if they do, how can they, with all that metal armour-skin. Ew. And Riful hasn't got anything from the waiste down. She's got normal body, from her head, till her waiste. From there it's just ribbons!!
Basicly, by what she meant, Riful just meant that he was worthy of becomig her right hand man, because he could take even Riful's attacks.

But Prezzy, about Audrey peeing her pants. It wasn't Riful's AB form, that made her. It's coz when riful split her head, (which probably revealed her true yoki power) when Audrey sensed her true yoki, THAT made her pee her pants!

Now, talking about how Agatha is strong...

How long do you think she'd last against riful (those tow have very simular styles)
Also, how about Agasa VS Rosemary? (y'know rosemary, #2 in teresa's generation)

LOL. And look who's among them Captain >.<

Against Riful, I'd say Riful is the stronger. Agasa could probably only last 10 minutes at most against her, I think.

Agasa vs Rosemary, I'd go with Agasa. Rosemary was basically a miniature Abyssal if you ask me, but her AB form didn't impress me. But then again, who would be, against someone like Teresa :p

[Duath]

If it's Prezzo, my 8th sense tells me that he will support all your "dirty comments" wholeheartedly.

Besides "toughness"of the hide, I think it can refer to their guts or daringness. Not many can even stand properly when they face an fully transformed Riful. Take a look at Audrey, she was so scared that she had to pee on the floor, much less retaliate or to fight back. Dulf probably was so one brave man or did not had enough sense to fear Riful. :lol:


I'm with Noelle on this. They are still the number 1 and 2 as shown in Databook 3. At least, the number 1 and 2 spots are accounted for.

Furthermore, Alicia and Beth being inactive is no big news. Not many has seen an "active" Alicia before the 7 years arc anyway. Be it in the province or by the other warriors.

That's Macen for us, ridding spammers and new comers who would soon run away after reading his comments.

They are still active because according to this: http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/72/10/

Which occurred after the time skip, we can see that Alicia and Beth are still numbers one and two.

[chezkimo]

yh, they're prob only used for special types of situations, like when those 11AB attacked

[wany1981]

well.. if u go to chapter 72. page 2.. on the left side is the story so far section.. under section 3 of story so far confirms alica and beth has been inactive since 7 years ago. So current no.1 and 2 are probably different then those 2

[chezkimo]

...WANY! we just discussed this, they ARE still #1 n #2. just coz they're innactive dosn't mean they have in any way been stripped of thier rank! Besides who could replace those 2 anyways!!!

[SilentBuddhist]

...Clarice? (Just kidding, I'm using sarcasm) :p

But I agree...just because they are inactive it doesn't mean they lost their ranks. The Org worked for years getting those two to master the soul link, and in the end it finally pays off. There's NO REASON for the Org to just throw them in the trash bin at this point, and there's hardly, if any, people around to take their place. I can't imagine Audrey or Rachel taking the #1 and 2 spots, or even Miata. Potential does NOT equal able to do so right away, even if she were a bit more stable. Just because Miata has the potential to be #1 it doesn't necessarily mean she has those capabilities at the moment.

[chezkimo]

LOL. clarice, i know claymore is unpredictable but that would be taking it too far! And yh, wait 20 years perhaps then miata will be worthy of #1. She might become to more primal version of teresa. where as teresa had excellent yoki sensing ability, in about 20 year, miata might be able to have the equivalant but by using her sixth sense.

Oh, prezzy, you never told us them but you said there were statistics of ABs in the data books. I wanted to know what they're like.

[MacenKrace]

*Dies from reading so many pages*

damn claymore hard fans, you guys have too much to say.

Anyway, about what riful said. The whole "he's my boyfreind" thing, just means that he's her right hand man. They don't do stuff together. And if they do, how can they, with all that metal armour-skin. Ew. And Riful hasn't got anything from the waiste down. She's got normal body, from her head, till her waiste. From there it's just ribbons!!
Basicly, by what she meant, Riful just meant that he was worthy of becomig her right hand man, because he could take even Riful's attacks.

But Prezzy, about Audrey peeing her pants. It wasn't Riful's AB form, that made her. It's coz when riful split her head, (which probably revealed her true yoki power) when Audrey sensed her true yoki, THAT made her pee her pants!

Now, talking about how Agatha is strong...

How long do you think she'd last against riful (those tow have very simular styles)
Also, how about Agasa VS Rosemary? (y'know rosemary, #2 in teresa's generation)


Agasa vs Rosemary -> Agasa

[Darkwing Bahamut]

But I agree...just because they are inactive it doesn't mean they lost their ranks. The Org worked for years getting those two to master the soul link, and in the end it finally pays off. There's NO REASON for the Org to just throw them in the trash bin at this point, and there's hardly, if any, people around to take their place. I can't imagine Audrey or Rachel taking the #1 and 2 spots, or even Miata. Potential does NOT equal able to do so right away, even if she were a bit more stable. Just because Miata has the potential to be #1 it doesn't necessarily mean she has those capabilities at the moment.
Being inactive doesn't mean being thrown away either. The twins seem to be created for the specific purpose of handling the Abyssal ones. They could be kept within the Organization's boundaries only to be used should danger befall the Org, like what happened before the 7 year time skip. I take inactive to mean that they are currently not being sent on missions, nor stationed in 1 of the 47 provinces, which would mean that someone else would have to fill those spots for them.

But I guess finding replacements for those 2 would: 1) take a lot of time, something the Org can't afford atm, and 2) not necessary since the current numbers 3 & 5 are capable of handling most ABs.

LOL. clarice, i know claymore is unpredictable but that would be taking it too far! And yh, wait 20 years perhaps then miata will be worthy of #1. She might become to more primal version of teresa. where as teresa had excellent yoki sensing ability, in about 20 year, miata might be able to have the equivalant but by using her sixth sense.
I see Miata like Priscilla, both with enormous hidden potential and both mentally unstable. If Miata were to awaken she would probably just turn out like Priscilla; delusional and unable to quench her hunger for human guts.


As for Agatha Vs Rosemary, unfortunately the only time we've seen Rosemary in action was against Teresa, and we can't get an accurate gauge of her power based on that alone. But I'd go with Rosemary as she was in fact no. 1 at one point whereas Agatha has always been a no. 2.

[chezkimo]

hmm, true. But i guess it may be quite hard to choose. they both have emense speed as we've seen. people would probably go for agasa coz of her size but when you think bout it, agasa's like a big faqt target when she goes into yoma form. it's kinda just like a giant platform with a head connected. Rosemary would be dashing about everywhrere but agasa can only do so much when dodging attacks.

Talking about awakened beings. Does anyone remember the female one from the north who had 4 heads. Hmm, how did that happen?! How and why would an awakened being have four heads. I thought thier heads were like were thier brains were, so she had 4 brains? Man she musta been hella smart. I mean i've seen multiple mouths before, but not complete heads. Explain?

[jeffmas]

for me the most powerful among them is Priscilla

http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/Donpendong/?action=view&current=08-09.jpgHey why dont we discussed the most powerful among the abbyssals huh?

[chezkimo]

we did that AGES ago. people were divided on isley n riful. (no one picked luciela) LOL

RIFUL ALL THE WAY

[Hynavian]

That was just a question. From where I come from you usually introduce yourself before entering a thread and giving your opinion.
Yes I know Macen. I was also wondering who that newbie was.
Please bite the one below too; for making me look through Databook 3 early in the morning.

well.. if u go to chapter 72. page 2.. on the left side is the story so far section.. under section 3 of story so far confirms alica and beth has been inactive since 7 years ago. So current no.1 and 2 are probably different then those 2
Another newbie who doesn't read other people posts before posting. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/EmoAngry1.gif
To support my friends, Databook 3 Page 18
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Rubbish/ABas12.jpg

Oh, prezzy, you never told us them but you said there were statistics of ABs in the data books. I wanted to know what they're like.
Come, have a seat captain, so what good will you give me in return for letting you in on information on loli Riful? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Emoticons/a03cbf1e.gif I'm kidding captain! There's 1/2 an information page on Riful. The other ABs; namely Isley and Luciela, also gotten 1/2 a page attention each in Databook 3.

Databook 3 is Prezzo's territory and it'd be unwise for me to venture any deeper.

As for Agatha Vs Rosemary, unfortunately the only time we've seen Rosemary in action was against Teresa, and we can't get an accurate gauge of her power based on that alone. But I'd go with Rosemary as she was in fact no. 1 at one point whereas Agatha has always been a no. 2.

I have to agree with Darkwing Bahamut for his arguments on A & B, I also agree with the others like Duath, captain etc. The newbie who just came in just need to read before posting. With regards to Agasa vs Rosemary, you have made a very good point and I can't help but sway to your side too. I'll also like to add the below,

Teresa is just way too powerful that she's termed the strongest, hence, unsurpassed by others in ranks. For all we know, Riful might even end up as warrior #2 if she's in Teresa's cohort. Rosemary just stood no chance against Teresa. For all we know, Rosemary might have rivaled Riful's strengths and beat Agasa upside down in a 1 v 1 match.

Have I done this or have I not? But hi there Darkwing Bahamut, here's a eban dance for you! :eban:

Talking about awakened beings. Does anyone remember the female one from the north who had 4 heads. Hmm, how did that happen?! How and why would an awakened being have four heads. I thought thier heads were like were thier brains were, so she had 4 brains? Man she musta been hella smart. I mean i've seen multiple mouths before, but not complete heads. Explain?
Oh which chapter and page is it? I wasn't really paying attention to those extra Abs in Claymore. Perhaps its time for me to look deeper into them.

[SilentBuddhist]

Hey why dont we discussed the most powerful among the abbyssals huh?

for me the most powerful among them is Priscilla

<a href="http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/Donpendong/?action=view&current=08-09.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/Donpendong/08-09.jpg" border="0" alt="Priscila"></a>

http://http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/Donpendong/08-09.jpg

http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/Donpendong/?action=view&current=08-09.jpgHey why dont we discussed the most powerful among the abbyssals huh?

WHAT THE HECK IS THIS!!?? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/EmoAngry1.gif Ugh, the trolls came back -_-" This is worse than Jack-5-Jack's invasion...

[Hynavian]

Yes, and I even gave a name for the episode on Jack 5. Should I give this episode a new name too?

Something like "jeffmas strikes back: the INVASION"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Emoticons/3c68bb64.gif

[wany1981]

awakening one with 4 head....

idea 1:

Well.. we heard of conjoined twins.. maybe it's conjoined quad claymore warrior awakening..:devil:

idea 2:

Organizations experient ran away....

idea 3:

think transformer... 4 friend awaken together and joined together.. and u have a 4 head awaken being...

idea 4:

She is lonely so made her head split to 4 so she can talk to her self.

idea 5:

she ate and abosobed a few other awaking being.

idea 6:

i am still thinking...

[SilentBuddhist]

Naw, More like "Newbie Invasion Part 2: The Barrage of jeffmas", or something.

An AB with 4 heads? That's news to me too. Hmm...

[wany1981]

Hynavian ... plz don't make him bite me.. i been around since claymore thread 1 was made. I am not very good and english so i never made a account. Recently i had to make an account to vote for claymore characters.

[SilentBuddhist]

I wouldn't bite anyone, if that's who you're referring to :p

I'm a nice guy for the most part. I can only name 1 person in this forum who has gotten on my bad side, but it's not you. It's someone in the RPs...

[Hynavian]

idea 3:

think transformer... 4 friend awaken together and joined together.. and u have a 4 head awaken being...

idea 4:

She is lonely so made her head split to 4 so she can talk to her self.
Idea 3 and Idea 4 are the most hilarious.

Idea 3
What? Transformers!? 4 ABs awakening and then fit together like some toys?!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Emoticons/8c460310.gif

Idea 4
She could have teamed with others like how Isley-Pris, Riful-Dulf. There's no need to split your one's head into 4 and speak to oneself.

But I think chez captain is trying to point out that there's actually such a 4 headed AB in the manga. Hence, he asked us whether we did notice it. And ponders over what's the use of so many heads.

Hynavian ... plz don't make him bite me.. i been around since claymore thread 1 was made. I am not very good and english so i never made a account. Recently i had to make an account to vote for claymore characters.
Ah ok ok, it's my fault. You're not so bad after I see jeffmas.
Welcome to the forums!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Emoticons/4e5dd44a.gif

I wouldn't bite anyone, if that's who you're referring to :p

I'm a nice guy for the most part. I can only name 1 person in this forum who has gotten on my bad side, but it's not you. It's someone in the RPs...
He's referring to Macen. I just unleashed Macen's powers in the previous page and asked Macen to chew him into bits. So I'm an accomplice of some sort.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Emoticons/4412144b.gif
Ah, and I know who that person is, as he has, unfortunately, gotten on my wrong side too.

[wany1981]

A gift to the club. enjoy
http://hiphotos.baidu.com/%D7%EE%5F%B0%AE%5F%B5%CF%5F%BD%E3/pic/item/d8b6c72f965711361e30895c.jpg

[Hynavian]

A gift to the club. enjoy
http://hiphotos.baidu.com/%D7%EE%5F%B0%AE%5F%B5%CF%5F%BD%E3/pic/item/d8b6c72f965711361e30895c.jpg
I don't really get what the gift is, I'm sorry.
There are some words there and no picture. Could it be due to some html error?

And has anyone found the 4 headed AB that Captain was mentioning in the manga?
I'm still looking for it.

[wany1981]

bah.. no picture? must be html error.. well i will attach the file i guess.

[wany1981]

chapter 50.. page 2-3.. wait.. it's 5 head.. not 4...

[SilentBuddhist]

Ah, thanks for the page :p Now we have a lead...

[SilentBuddhist]

http://img13.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/00000050/02-03.jpg

Aaah? I still can't see it :confused: I don't think there is a 5-headed AB, just a bunch of them close together.

[wany1981]

do u see it now?

[SilentBuddhist]

Ah, now I see it ^^" Hmm, interesting. Maybe the Claymore was a headhunter at the time?

[Duath]

do u see it now?

No, I still don't. I think thats a one headed AB with some strange bulges on its back (Mushroom, Poisonous SPORESSSSS!!!!!!)


EDIT: I see it! But it looks different than the other faces, so perhaps those are decoys. Like, you know, chop it off, HAH I'm still alive?

[wany1981]

the same multi head girl is also in chapter 61 page 6 and 7 also chapter 57.. page 11

[Hynavian]

the same multi head girl is also in chapter 61 page 6 and 7 also chapter 57.. page 11
Where? Post and circle it! Thanks.
Here's a Bera wany, my official new Claymore member.

I think the many heads really aid in eating. Extra mouths so that it can feed faster.

*Slurpppppppp*

[wany1981]

bah.. i got nothing better to do anyways... might as well..
i got some problem posting pictures.. so attachment is all u can get..

[SilentBuddhist]

0.o Creepy...

Have you tried the IMG code for it?

[wany1981]

picture code?
well i am one of those beings that creep around all the forums on internet just to read.. never post...

[htcheng]

Does it matter how many head of that AB have, when those AB are clearly in the afterlife already either kill by Ritful or Alicia & Beth.

[Duath]

Does it matter how many head of that AB have, when those AB are clearly in the afterlife already either kill by Ritful or Alicia & Beth.

Huh?

Are you trying to say that all of Isley's subbordinates were killed either by Riful, or by Alicia? This could be true, I seem to remember him sending all 27 of him minions after pieta, but then it seems as if they split up. I doubt that none of them remain...

Anyway, I was rereading some stuff, and I realized that Raki has an unusual "smell" about him. If we look at Clare's second awakened being hunt (with ophelia) we can see that the AB was attracted to Raki. She said that he was "simply irresistable."

Then later on, when with Pricsilla, a similar thing is said, and while Isley passes it off as "bringing the scent of the south" I think its something else. Obviously there is something special about him, or Prisc woulda eaten him right away, but I have no idea what that could be.

[jeffmas]

yo does anyone here watch the anime?:thumbup::eban:

[SilentBuddhist]

Huh?

Are you trying to say that all of Isley's subbordinates were killed either by Riful, or by Alicia? This could be true, I seem to remember him sending all 27 of him minions after pieta, but then it seems as if they split up. I doubt that none of them remain...

Anyway, I was rereading some stuff, and I realized that Raki has an unusual "smell" about him. If we look at Clare's second awakened being hunt (with ophelia) we can see that the AB was attracted to Raki. She said that he was "simply irresistable."

Then later on, when with Pricsilla, a similar thing is said, and while Isley passes it off as "bringing the scent of the south" I think its something else. Obviously there is something special about him, or Prisc woulda eaten him right away, but I have no idea what that could be.
That's pretty much what happened...half the squad went to the North, the other half to the West over to Riful. Any survivors from the North went over to the Org and got slaughtered by Alicia and Beth, or maybe they came from the West...

As for Raki, I can only say he has more testosterone than he deserves :lol: He's a winy kid (probably still is), but for some reason he's so popular even the monsters want him >.<

[jeffmas]

silent buddhist half went to the west and the other went to the east duh not north why would they go to the place were they departs?

[SilentBuddhist]

Do you not read the manga? Half of the troops from Isley's army went North. If that's not true then how do you explain all those ABs before the 7 year time skip?

[Tensa Zangetsu]

....jeffmas has knowledgeable feedback?!? no way >.>

and yeah, we discussed this before (I can feel it...or as Hynavian would say, his 8th sense :lol:) but I still don't think that it is possible for Isely to decieve Raki for 7 years....you'd think he would notice that he didn't have a job, have any money, and never ate >.>....Well I think he might have eaten Raki's cooking buuut....

ah...Jack jack 5....funny times....newbie troll atack ^.^

[Tensa Zangetsu]

Do you not read the manga? Half of the troops from Isley's army went North. If that's not true then how do you explain all those ABs before the 7 year time skip?

yes they did go up north at first, but during the attack, half went west to take rifuls land and the other went to the org in the east (after all the claymore were 'dead')...whle isely dealt with luciela in the south....

[SilentBuddhist]

...jeffmas reminds of Ryu somehow...I can't put my finger on why though ^^"

Raki NEEDS to notice though, I mean, he was commented on being pretty smart. Eh, he clearly isn't, so skip that part :lol:

Yeah, but, Raki should have said something by know. "He, Priscilla, Isley, how come you don't eat so much, huh? You don't even eat breakfast...at all!"
yes they did go up north at first, but during the attack, half went west to take rifuls land and the other went to the org in the east (after all the claymore were 'dead')...whle isely dealt with luciela in the south....

Well, which is why I said "They may have came from the West."

...If I get into a debate with jeffmas, I may go insane...last night was bad enough for me...

[Tensa Zangetsu]

Who said that he was smart? sorry, but alternate dimensions don't count >.>...

Oh yeah and Raki never wondered why they were traveling around for no apparent reason, and why they would disappear occasionally ...to eat guts...but of course Raki is oblivious to this

[SilentBuddhist]

Some yoma disguised as a Claymore in the first volume said it first, and then Helen in volume 5...but honestly, I'd say it was sarcasm.

Well, as long as it wasn't a change in the story like it was in the anime...bleh >.>

[nope]

Raki: hey priscilla, whats with those wings and why are you so blue all of a sudden?
Isley:its a birth defect.
Raki: ah, i see. So she went blue from depression because i mentioned it =(
Isley:...
Priscilla: *munch munch munch*

ahhh, been a while. next chapter should be out soon eh :D.

[SilentBuddhist]

Heya nope, welcome back, our "All Hell Breaks Loose Member" ^^

Ah...from what I hear chapter 77 won't be out until March '08. I could be wrong though!

[nope]

ahhh, Im gonna die T-T. i hope your wrong.

[SilentBuddhist]

Me too T-T But I can't remember who said it first though.

[nope]

why is it that all my favorite manga come out in irregular intervals of months, months and more months T-T

[SilentBuddhist]

I know...

But anyways. I feel sorry for Miata. She actually shows pain and expresses it. I take back what I said about her being a mad kid. It was actually painful to watch.

Bah, aside from that I don't really have much to say beyond that :p I should go to bed.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

I know...

But anyways. I feel sorry for Miata. She actually shows pain and expresses it. I take back what I said about her being a mad kid. It was actually painful to watch.

Bah, aside from that I don't really have much to say beyond that :p I should go to bed.

That doesn't stop her from being a mad kid...proof? Miata is getting beaten up by an AB but ignores the pain and focuses on the non-evil character >.>

[SilentBuddhist]

But at the same time, she was only doing that because "mama" ordered it. That's not really being mad, at least, I don't think so. Just like when she took the pills. She just doesn't want to fail Clarice's orders, even when there's stuff getting in the way. That, I don't think, is really madness.

*scratches head* I can't really go beyond that now...I have to go to bed and refresh myself. Just like Greg when he makes sigs :D

[MacenKrace]

Hynavian ... plz don't make him bite me.. i been around since claymore thread 1 was made. I am not very good and english so i never made a account. Recently i had to make an account to vote for claymore characters.

your join date said something else... something like dec 2007 which is last year.

He's referring to Macen. I just unleashed Macen's powers in the previous page and asked Macen to chew him into bits. So I'm an accomplice of some sort.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Emoticons/4412144b.gif
Ah, and I know who that person is, as he has, unfortunately, gotten on my wrong side too.

Just look up and see what I'm talking about.

Heya nope, welcome back, our "All Hell Breaks Loose Member" ^^

Ah...from what I hear chapter 77 won't be out until March '08. I could be wrong though!

I raw the raw and the tranlation. It's true and I've posted it.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

But at the same time, she was only doing that because "mama" ordered it. That's not really being mad, at least, I don't think so. Just like when she took the pills. She just doesn't want to fail Clarice's orders, even when there's stuff getting in the way. That, I don't think, is really madness.

*scratches head* I can't really go beyond that now...I have to go to bed and refresh myself. Just like Greg when he makes sigs :D

well common sense would be telling her "ow, somethings hurting me, I should do something about it" and not "ow, somethings hurting me but I think I'll do absolutely nothing about it cause 'mama' said so"....so yes...maybe she isn't mad but....mentally incapable of the function we call logic now these days >.>? ((I'm cruel yes...but I feel no pity towards those who hurt Galatea...well maybe a little))

speaking of sigs, my latest one is amazing (go meta knight!)

FILIPINOS?
yes filipinos....that is the extent of your mental compacity I see... a shame.... its people like you who indulge themselves in a shroud of false self-confidence formed by lack of attention. I would go on but you are already incapable of understanding this therefore you are not even worth my words. You should be living in misery and cursing your very existence rather then annoy us with your presence.

but if you stop spamming and have something worthwhile to contribute then all is forgiven ^.^

[MacenKrace]

yes filipinos....that is the extent of your mental compacity I see... a shame.... its people like you who indulge themselves in a shroud of false self-confidence formed by lack of attention. I would go on but you are already incapable of understanding this therefore you are not even worth my words. You should be living in misery and cursing your very existence rather then annoy us with your presence.

that's too rude TZ... Not even I would have said that but you're right, so can't complain about it.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

I'll edit it to be.....less rude....

but yeah....next chapter in march huh?...whew...that's is a looonnnggg wait >.>

[MacenKrace]

I'll edit it to be.....less rude....

but yeah....next chapter in march huh?...whew...that's is a looonnnggg wait >.>

Who knows... the mangaka wants a cool vacation just for himself.

[Hynavian]

yo who watch claymore anime? FILIPINOS ?FILIPINOS?
He even went to the Claymore RP OOC to spam. Anyway, I just reported all his messages.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/EmoAngry1.gif

your join date said something else... something like dec 2007 which is last year.

Just look up and see what I'm talking about.
Hmm....fishy right Macen?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Emoticons/a03cbf1e.gif

[MacenKrace]

He even went to the Claymore RP OOC to spam. Anyway, I just reported all his messages.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/EmoAngry1.gif


Hmm....fishy right Macen?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Emoticons/a03cbf1e.gif

Well at least the noob invasion is offline now :lol:

As for the last part I just saw accidentally.

[Noelle]

Ah...from what I hear chapter 77 won't be out until March '08. I could be wrong though!
From what I heard, it seems the Februrary issue will be out as per normal, but it will be named as the March issue, for whatsoever reasons? Now this is getting confusing. :confused:

What's this about a noob invasion? :eek:

[MacenKrace]

From what I heard, it seems the Februrary issue will be out as per normal, but it will be named as the March issue, for whatsoever reasons? Now this is getting confusing. :confused:

What's this about a noob invasion? :eek:

someone who didn't knew how to spam.

[18fenrir]

lol noob invasion (and i was part of the last noob invasion..)

Usually, issues are named after the next month. That's all i can figure. It's kind a trend or something. Don't know the underlying reason why.

[MacenKrace]

lol noob invasion (and i was part of the last noob invasion..)

Usually, issues are named after the next month. That's all i can figure. It's kind a trend or something. Don't know the underlying reason why.

Not you, just one guy who was really bad at spamming.

[Duath]

Oooh, Oooh,

Maybe Isley will turn Raki into a Claymore and then an Awakened Being!


(that was mostly a joke)

>_> Stupid spammers

[Hynavian]

From what I heard, it seems the Februrary issue will be out as per normal, but it will be named as the March issue, for whatsoever reasons? Now this is getting confusing. :confused:

What's this about a noob invasion? :eek:
I have been wondering too as I saw it in the raws, it's giving me a headache. I'm lazy to check SQ official website on how they actually publish mangas,...maybe I might...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Rubbish/lastpageraw.jpg

The lower right words say that the chapter will be released on the 4th February but it will be in the March Issue?!? Now my head is spinning...

Noelle, you don't see those spam posts around anymore because I have reported most of them and I'm glad the mods cleared them. :p

[SKATEateer]

that doesnt make sense!

[SilentBuddhist]

He even went to the Claymore RP OOC to spam. Anyway, I just reported all his messages.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/EmoAngry1.gif


Hmm....fishy right Macen?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Emoticons/a03cbf1e.gif

Well at least the noob invasion is offline now :lol:

As for the last part I just saw accidentally.

From what I heard, it seems the Februrary issue will be out as per normal, but it will be named as the March issue, for whatsoever reasons? Now this is getting confusing. :confused:

What's this about a noob invasion? :eek:

someone who didn't knew how to spam.

lol noob invasion (and i was part of the last noob invasion..)

Usually, issues are named after the next month. That's all i can figure. It's kind a trend or something. Don't know the underlying reason why.

Oooh, Oooh,

Maybe Isley will turn Raki into a Claymore and then an Awakened Being!


(that was mostly a joke)

>_> Stupid spammers

I have been wondering too as I saw it in the raws, it's giving me a headache. I'm lazy to check SQ official website on how they actually publish mangas,...maybe I might...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Rubbish/lastpageraw.jpg

The lower right words say that the chapter will be released on the 4th February but it will be in the March Issue?!? Now my head is spinning...

Noelle, you don't see those spam posts around anymore because I have reported most of them and I'm glad the mods cleared them. :p

Indeed. How dare he challenged me when he's as bad a spammer as Manga-Dude (or at least very close in comparison, I beleive.) :p

Gaah, that really doesn't make sense. Maybe we'll get two chapters in March, the February and March chapters :confused: Hm....

[chezkimo]

LOL i've missed alot. you guys are jokers!

If i remember the noob invasion happened when the claymore gap finished and chapter 75 or 74 (can't remember) came out on november 2nd. Then LOADS of noobs showed up talking about it. You would think "ooh, more claymore fans" but for some reason the stuff they were posting was NOOBISH to the extreme, and kinda stupid.

Anyway, it brings me great joy that the next issue will arrive in febuary (though if you ask em it's missed a month- january)

In any case, i like agasa and all, but i can't wait till she gets beaten and chopped up by gal. and miata. she took off galatea's ARM! We know that Gal's a defensive type with high yoki so bring it back won't be a problem, but how dare she do that to the beauty queen of the claymores! If karma has it's way, then Agasa is due in for a big *** whooping!

But anyway, i wanna see who this Luna is. "the eye" of the org. and the rest of the new generation. coz except for Miata, so far the new gen. has been a let down and i don't think that the good side of this new gen. has been shown. Perhaps there's another Miria in this generation. y'know, someone interesting, who's a walking encyclapedia and is brave enough to rebel against the org. in secret!

And about the 4 headed AB, i think that all 5 of the head's brains put all together only make probably double the intellegence of an avarage awakened being. But the purpose of it, is that if one of her heads is chopped off, she can regenerate the head, and therefor, in the case of normal awaekened being's, whose only one head, when chopped off is done for, she can't be killed just by chopping off one of her heads. And if she's still got one left, that would be enough to regenerate the rest.

But taking all this into consideration, she was still stypid enough to go to the West. i guess 5 heards ARN'T better than one.

[Duath]

LOL i've missed alot. you guys are jokers!

If i remember the noob invasion happened when the claymore gap finished and chapter 75 or 74 (can't remember) came out on november 2nd. Then LOADS of noobs showed up talking about it. You would think "ooh, more claymore fans" but for some reason the stuff they were posting was NOOBISH to the extreme, and kinda stupid.

Anyway, it brings me great joy that the next issue will arrive in febuary (though if you ask em it's missed a month- january)

In any case, i like agasa and all, but i can't wait till she gets beaten and chopped up by gal. and miata. she took off galatea's ARM! We know that Gal's a defensive type with high yoki so bring it back won't be a problem, but how dare she do that to the beauty queen of the claymores! If karma has it's way, then Agasa is due in for a big *** whooping!

But anyway, i wanna see who this Luna is. "the eye" of the org. and the rest of the new generation. coz except for Miata, so far the new gen. has been a let down and i don't think that the good side of this new gen. has been shown. Perhaps there's another Miria in this generation. y'know, someone interesting, who's a walking encyclapedia and is brave enough to rebel against the org. in secret!

And about the 4 headed AB, i think that all 5 of the head's brains put all together only make probably double the intellegence of an avarage awakened being. But the purpose of it, is that if one of her heads is chopped off, she can regenerate the head, and therefor, in the case of normal awaekened being's, whose only one head, when chopped off is done for, she can't be killed just by chopping off one of her heads. And if she's still got one left, that would be enough to regenerate the rest.

But taking all this into consideration, she was still stypid enough to go to the West. i guess 5 heards ARN'T better than one.


Hahha, that last line made me crack up. I'm very interested in seeing who the new eye is going to be, and it is surprising that she isn't in the top 5 claymores of the organization. You would think that someone able to sense Yoki as well as an Eye is supposed to would be pretty damn powerful, and would be in the top 5, but meh.

More than the other Claymores, I'm REALLY curious as to what has happened to Raki over the 7 years. Is he still with Isley? Is he alive? I wanna know!

[Excel-Kleinwald]

Just putting in some input here to clear things up. From what I have learned of magazines, you get next month's issue the month before. I subscribe to the Shonen Jump Magazine in America and I kept getting confused as to why they kept talking about the next months topics when it was this month that I had the magazine, I guess it is magazines' way of keeping ahead of everything because why cover a topic that has already passed if you're buying the issue on a date that isn't even the first of the month? That may have sounded a bit weird from my wording... not too sure, but I hope it explains it.

[SilentBuddhist]

I used to subscribe to them...I might again, but I haven't yet. Anyways, yeah, that would happen with me too, on a February issue it would say March instead...so maybe it's just SJ and the way they keep track of things.

[Excel-Kleinwald]

No... I meant that that was the way they did it with all magazines and was using SJ as an example.

[SilentBuddhist]

Hmm...

But would it still be correct, excluding the SJ example? Because from my understanding, we would still get the chapter in February, even though it would say March instead.

[Excel-Kleinwald]

That is true, because the issue you would get in February would technically be the next month' issue, the March issue.

[SilentBuddhist]

Alright then. That clears up the confusion :p Thanks E-K.

More than the other Claymores, I'm REALLY curious as to what has happened to Raki over the 7 years. Is he still with Isley? Is he alive? I wanna know!

Most likely he is. But the question we've asked a lot, a LOT, is: Does he know if his companions are ABs?

[MacenKrace]

Alright then. That clears up the confusion :p Thanks E-K.



Most likely he is. But the question we've asked a lot, a LOT, is: Does he know if his companions are ABs?

You may never know. But Raki sure is easily duped. :lol:

[Excel-Kleinwald]

I am sure that if Raki knew, he wouldn't want to stay with them because he would know that they are Yoma, and even though they treated him well or what have you, he wouldn't want to stay with the enemy of Clare.

[MacenKrace]

I am sure that if Raki knew, he wouldn't want to stay with them because he would know that they are Yoma, and even though they treated him well or what have you, he wouldn't want to stay with the enemy of Clare.

I'm not so sure about that. He may even come up with some nonsense like they didn't even try to eat me or something like that.

[SilentBuddhist]

Unless Raki in the manga is somehow similar to the Raki in the anime...if Clare and Priscilla fought, he'd have to choose between the woman he swore to protect, or the girl he's stayed with 7 years (considering he's still with Priscilla).

Raki is amazingly stupid, as Macen has said, so you may never know what he'll do next. :lol:

[Duath]

Unless Raki in the manga is somehow similar to the Raki in the anime...if Clare and Priscilla fought, he'd have to choose between the woman he swore to protect, or the girl he's stayed with 7 years (considering he's still with Priscilla).

Raki is amazingly stupid, as Macen has said, so you may never know what he'll do next. :lol:

It may be interesting to talk about what the advantages of having a human "pet" could be to an awakened being. It certainly would help them move around better, and they could deal with people from the organization a bit easier by simply having the human talk to them and tell them that they were not bad.

Or... they could fatten him until he was ripe for the eating!

MUA HA HA HA

[Hynavian]

Ha ha ha ha rude
like the claymores itself
ha ha ha lol
Frankly, I just reported you again.

______

EDIT
And thanks E-K for clearing the confusion.

It may be interesting to talk about what the advantages of having a human "pet" could be to an awakened being. It certainly would help them move around better, and they could deal with people from the organization a bit easier by simply having the human talk to them and tell them that they were not bad.

Or... they could fatten him until he was ripe for the eating!

MUA HA HA HA

That's an interesting speculation. If it's true we can prove that humans and ABs can co-exist. Hence, supporting the stand where Abs and Claymores might be able to co-exist. Assuming Clare joined Riful when she asked them, Riful might or might not awaken Clare. She might keep a Claymore Clare around with her if she's "co-operative" enough.

[jeffmas]

your right Hynavian maybe they can cooperate each other

Hilda the headless and former #6 ha ha ha lol

[jeffmas]

just out of curiosity does the man in black from the organization is also a half human and half youma?

pls reply HILDA the HEADLESS

[Tensa Zangetsu]

just out of curiosity, does the man in black of the organization was also a half human and half youma?

Pls. reply HILDA the HEADLESS

...............prezzy, I'm speechless........

Section Deleted: Please do not feed the trolls.

and to answer your question, it isn't clarified if they are human or not

[Useless]

...............prezzy, I'm speechless........

Section Deleted: Please do not feed the trolls.

and to answer your question, it isn't clarified if they are human or not

That sounds like something I'd say...>.>
Anyways, can somebody tell me what actual discussion is going on at the moment?
...I'm far too lazy to read back.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

tensa Zangetsu your much worst than silent buddhist and hynavian
your also much worst than the narutostads

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

First you annoy us, now you belittle Christians? I have decided to ignore you....

Frankly, I just reported you again.

______

EDIT
And thanks E-K for clearing the confusion.



That's an interesting speculation. If it's true we can prove that humans and ABs can co-exist. Hence, supporting the stand where Abs and Claymores might be able to co-exist. Assuming Clare joined Riful when she asked them, Riful might or might not awaken Clare. She might keep a Claymore Clare around with her if she's "co-operative" enough.

Well....hmmm, keeping a human as a pet isn't really the same as co-existing. It might just be a source of amusement for them. Frankly I don't think its possible for a species that has acted as food for another species can ever live co-exist peacefully. And Riful would probably force clare to awaken...cause if she didn't, she would be much weaker and of much less use to her. She needs powerful people to beat Isely so...

[Useless]

Frankly, I just reported you again.

______

EDIT
And thanks E-K for clearing the confusion.



That's an interesting speculation. If it's true we can prove that humans and ABs can co-exist. Hence, supporting the stand where Abs and Claymores might be able to co-exist. Assuming Clare joined Riful when she asked them, Riful might or might not awaken Clare. She might keep a Claymore Clare around with her if she's "co-operative" enough.

Wouldn't she rather have Clare awakened? She wanted a claymore with a strong ability for sensing youki, so would her awakening strengthen that? Riful is kind enough for an AB, but I don't think that sounds logical.

[nope]

she would probably try to make clare stronger so she could be stronger as an awakened, during that time she could use her for the aforementioned reasons (youki sensing). Not sure whether or not powers persist after awakening, haven't seen anything that shows that they do.

[jeffmas]

USELESS could you tell me if the men in black in the organization was also a half human half youma?

[Tensa Zangetsu]

I already answered your question >.>

Wouldn't she rather have Clare awakened? She wanted a claymore with a strong ability for sensing youki, so would her awakening strengthen that? Riful is kind enough for an AB, but I don't think that sounds logical.

Im not sure a claymore retain their special abilities after they awaken. Clare may or may not have better yoki detection after awakening

[Useless]

USELESS could you tell me if the men in black in the organization was also a half human half youma?

I really couldn't.

Nope...I don't get what your saying. Are you saying that powers don't stay the same after being awakened? I think the original abilities, such as attack or defensive type of warriors, persist throughout an awakening.

[nope]

well, i meant special abilities. Like youki sensing or Galateas Youki control. Things like defensive and offensive abilities persist through awakening as was shown in "the slashers" arc.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

....Can an offensive claymore regenerate once it awakens? I know they can't regenerate normal arms as a claymore but when you think about it...after awakening, their yoki levels get much higher so wouldn't that make it harder to regenerate a lost limb?

[Useless]

I think they'd be able to regenerate. My memory is a bit foggy, but didn't Isley and Priscilla regenerate? I believe those are attack types....I assume at least. Then again, the lion guy, whose name I forget, didn't regenerate at all and he was definitely an attack type. Or did he regenerate? My Claymore memory is really bad for some reason..:/

[Useless]

well, i meant special abilities. Like youki sensing or Galateas Youki control. Things like defensive and offensive abilities persist through awakening as was shown in "the slashers" arc.

I would think so. I doubt they'd lose much of anything, save for their sanity.

[nope]

from Duph you can see that offensive types have a hard time regenerating rapidly but can fully regenerate over time.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

I think they'd be able to regenerate. My memory is a bit foggy, but didn't Isley and Priscilla regenerate? I believe those are attack types....I assume at least. Then again, the lion guy, whose name I forget, didn't regenerate at all and he was definitely an attack type. Or did he regenerate? My Claymore memory is really bad for some reason..:/

That's what I was thinking...Rigardo the lion king never regenerated his lost arm.....Isely managed to regenerate half his body >.>.....well he is an abyssal one so maybe he's special

[Useless]

from Duph you can see that offensive types have a hard time regenerating rapidly but can fully regenerate over time.

Duph is a complete idiot though, and I think regenerating a limb would take a bit of mental power....
However, you are completely right..>.>

[nope]

my knowledge of the basics is unmatched ^^ *flex*

[Tensa Zangetsu]

I don't really remember but didn't Isely regenerate his other half almost instantly when he turned back into human form?....it probably took faster to regenerate his disguise then his real body.

[Useless]

Obviously, thats why its a disguise...>.>
Does it ever explain why they have a 'human' form?

[Hynavian]

your right Hynavian maybe they can cooperate each other

Hilda the headless and former #6 ha ha ha lol

just out of curiosity does the man in black from the organization is also a half human and half youma?

pls reply HILDA the HEADLESS

just out of curiosity, does the man in black of the organization was also a half human and half youma?

Pls. reply HILDA the HEADLESS

I don't really get your joke, if there's a joke somewhere. Are you making fun of my banner or something?

Coming to the men in black of the organization, I'm unable to comment much and it wasn't touch on in the manga. I have my theories but I'll provide them only if you provide yours.

hah hah hah lol
nice

tensa Zangetsu your much worst than silent buddhist and hynavian
your also much worst than the narutostads

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!
Smart move...for offending 3 1MMCM members and a group ("Narutards") with just one post.

This skill is called kill multiple birds with one stone.
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First you annoy us, now you belittle Christians? I have decided to ignore you....
Cool down, TZ, I think he's one of the more persistent spammers around. He's king among spammers for none has left me such a deep impression and returned.

Hmm let me recall, Jack 5 spam and ran away, Manga-Dude spam and doesn't check back, this ran, that gone, another quit, went missing....

Well....hmmm, keeping a human as a pet isn't really the same as co-existing. It might just be a source of amusement for them. Frankly I don't think its possible for a species that has acted as food for another species can ever live co-exist peacefully. And Riful would probably force clare to awaken...cause if she didn't, she would be much weaker and of much less use to her. She needs powerful people to beat Isely so...
I remember Riful stating that she doesn't need Clare to fight for her, as in send her to battles and beat everyone up. She just needed her special skills. Hence, Riful sure doesn't aim to awaken Clare, though it might be good to have Clare awaken.

Furthermore, awakening Clare does not mean that they would still be allies. The various ABs still fought and couldn't get along with each other, just like how Isley could not get along with Riful etc. Forcefully awakening Clare would not make her an instant ally for Riful.

Your idea of keeping Raki as a pet also sounds plausible as it's a logical and common practice, even in real life. Some people rear chickens and fishes but I don't see them eating their pets. However, since humans are unpredictable and more intelligent in nature, perhaps some co-existence might be able to develop between humans and ABs? The most plausible being Raki-Prisc or Raki-Clare, if Clare ever awakens.

So what do you all think?

....Can an offensive claymore regenerate once it awakens? I know they can't regenerate normal arms as a claymore but when you think about it...after awakening, their yoki levels get much higher so wouldn't that make it harder to regenerate a lost limb?
Yes, definitely, offensive ABs can regenerate. Take Dulf for instance. Though they can regenerate, they are slower and not as good as defensive ABs. Dulf has massive attack power but has slow regenerating rate as Riful mentioned that it took him ages to regenerate his limbs.

Coming to that, Agasa is clearly a defensive AB unless she has massive Yoki like Pris where she's able to recover herself almost instantaneously due to her overwhelming Yoki flow.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

Obviously, thats why its a disguise...>.>
Does it ever explain why they have a 'human' form?


Why as in why do they need a human form or why as in where did they get one....

Anyways, having a human form makes it easier to disguise yourself in a town (and in this case, in front of Raki...idiot) Also, they probably want to look like their former selves again. If Teresa had awakened, no doubt she would walk around with her long black hair when in human form. *siiiggghhh* Teresa...

[Useless]

Well the why was obvious. I wanted to know how...
Looking back, I guess it was a badly worded question...
1MMCM is obviously your Claymore clique, but what does it stand for?

[nope]

im confused at how they do it, if they have a particularly large form where does it all go? Does it involve rapid degeneration of cells in the body.. and when they transform where does it come from, the same amount of cells would have to be reproduced on a mass scale,
example: duph getting really big in a short time, or riful getting really big in an instant.
That would mean he always had the capacity to regenerate faster even though hes offensive type...
sorry if this makes your brain explode....

[Useless]

It doesn't. I wasn't going to go into the science like you did since its a manga, but I was wondering where it goes. Are their human forms just really dense with cells being placed together? Can they deflect cannon blasts with their skin? Can their illogicality be explained?
Probably not, hence the strange questions I'm asking.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

Your idea of keeping Raki as a pet also sounds plausible as it's a logical and common practice, even in real life. Some people rear chickens and fishes but I don't see them eating their pets. However, since humans are unpredictable and more intelligent in nature, perhaps some co-existence might be able to develop between humans and ABs? The most plausible being Raki-Prisc or Raki-Clare, if Clare ever awakens.

So what do you all think?



Yeah...uh, "intelligent in nature" does not = Raki -_-'

This goes back to the topic of what an AB would eat if they lived together with humans. Maybe they can be sent to only eat the criminals... >.>....special AB police? Protecting humans from bandits 24/7?....nah....

[nope]

unfortunately 95% of all science maybe more in the claymore world is unexplained -_o

[Hynavian]

Well the why was obvious. I wanted to know how...
Looking back, I guess it was a badly worded question...
1MMCM is obviously your Claymore clique, but what does it stand for?
1MMCM stands for "One Manga Mafia Claymore Members".
Useless, have you send the Christmas present that I have prepared for you? It's in the previous thread, page 2, I think. :p

im confused at how they do it, if they have a particularly large form where does it all go? Does it involve rapid degeneration of cells in the body.. and when they transform where does it come from, the same amount of cells would have to be reproduced on a mass scale,
example: duph getting really big in a short time, or riful getting really big in an instant.
That would mean he always had the capacity to regenerate faster even though hes offensive type...
sorry if this makes your brain explode....
In my opinion, I feel that offensive ABs would not be able to regenerate almost instantaneously in their AB forms as seen in Dulf and Rigardo. If they're both able to regenerate in their AB forms, why didn't they? Hence, this supports the stand where maybe regenerate themselves when they're in their human forms.

The exception would be Priscilla where she has overwhelming Yoki that she instantaneously regenerated while in her AB form as seen in her battle against Isley. She's a powerful weapon in my opinion as she's great in attack and has instant regeneration, better than the abyssal ones.

[Useless]

Yeah...uh, "intelligent in nature" does not = Raki -_-'

This goes back to the topic of what an AB would eat if they lived together with humans. Maybe they can be sent to only eat the criminals... >.>....special AB police? Protecting humans from bandits 24/7?....nah....

I doubt a peaceful coexistence between humans and ABs is possible, but a kind of master/servant kind of thing could work. Instead of the AB killing everything, there is a quota of some sort that the town fills...>.>

[Useless]

1MMCM stands for "One Manga Mafia Claymore Members".
Useless, have you send the Christmas present that I have prepared for you? It's in the previous thread, page 2, I think. :p




*Chill*
18fenrir already defended the manga preferences of the other fans.
That? 0.o
Only thing I could find...>.>

Maybe the 'science' that we just talked about goes into play with their regeneration...instead of losing mass, the cells are used to heal wounds...>.>'

"Previous thread"
....I knew that..>.>
*goes to look*

[Tensa Zangetsu]

That? 0.o
Only thing I could find...>.>

Maybe the 'science' that we just talked about goes into play with their regeneration...instead of losing mass, the cells are used to heal wounds...>.>'

"Previous thread"
....I knew that..>.>
*goes to look*

well the regenerating part is simple enough...they are using yoki to rapidly produce more cells thus regenerating.

[nope]

but if i am loosely correct in this the mass of an object or person should always stay the same unless something is lost or added, and i use the term 'loosely'

[Useless]

Oh...>.>
I was the one that didn't make sense?
It was Top Model!
...>.>
Meh.
Anyways, back onto whatever topic I care about now...
I was kind of referring to the scientific illogicality Tensa. Like nope said.
Obviously its a manga, so not that thought out, after all, its not Death Note..>.>

[Hynavian]

im confused at how they do it, if they have a particularly large form where does it all go? Does it involve rapid degeneration of cells in the body.. and when they transform where does it come from, the same amount of cells would have to be reproduced on a mass scale,
example: duph getting really big in a short time, or riful getting really big in an instant.
That would mean he always had the capacity to regenerate faster even though hes offensive type...
sorry if this makes your brain explode....
It doesn't. I wasn't going to go into the science like you did since its a manga, but I was wondering where it goes. Are their human forms just really dense with cells being placed together? Can they deflect cannon blasts with their skin? Can their illogicality be explained?
Probably not, hence the strange questions I'm asking.

Maybe the 'science' that we just talked about goes into play with their regeneration...instead of losing mass, the cells are used to heal wounds...>.>'
unfortunately 95% of all science maybe more in the claymore world is unexplained -_o

That's the All-Hell-Break-Loose Squad for everyone!
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If you guys get their questions, good. If not, it's okie.
I still love them anyway.
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Yeah...uh, "intelligent in nature" does not = Raki -_-'
You got influenced by Prezzo too much and joined his "Hate Raki" fanclub unknowingly. :lol:

This goes back to the topic of what an AB would eat if they lived together with humans. Maybe they can be sent to only eat the criminals... >.>....special AB police? Protecting humans from bandits 24/7?....nah....
Ah maybe my idea of Abs and humas co-existing was far-fetched. Maybe if we're to say some Abs and some humans? I agree that it's not possible for a colonies of ABs to leave with a colonies of humans. But there can be an exception where maybe an Ab can live with a human among the other humans, and that single human helping the other AB.

That? 0.o
Only thing I could find...>.>
Here's the site buddy, it's better late than never.
http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?p=212315#post212315

[Useless]

I got it...>.>"
Anyways, I'm just happy to be included...*cough*
I still think most people can follow it, but I myself don't understand what I say half the time.
My idea on the coexistence of ABs and humans wasn't important enough for you eh? You 1MMCM and your organized crime...>.>

[Hynavian]

I got it...>.>"
Anyways, I'm just happy to be included...*cough*
I still think most people can follow it, but I myself don't understand what I say half the time.
My idea on the coexistence of ABs and humans wasn't important enough for you eh? You 1MMCM and your organized crime...>.>

Your idea of coexistence of ABs and humans were important to me, that's why I was discussing it. See my psot before this, I was discussing whether it's possible for maybe some special human to live peacefully with some special ABs. What do you think?

I think Raki would fall into that category of "special" human.

Don't worry Useless, I don't abuse power in 1MMCM, it's Prezzo who likes to lead those uprisings. :lol:
I only report newbies who spams! :devil:

[nope]

i wonder if youma are necessary to the environment in claymore, there are a few in some towns. It keeps the population at balance and food isn't scarce for either race. Then the Org comes along, these huge super Awakened beings are created in the wake of their experiments and cities even entire regions are destroyed...

[Useless]

Your idea of coexistence of ABs and humans were important to me, that's why I was discussing it. See my psot before this, I was discussing whether it's possible for maybe some special human to live peacefully with some special ABs. What do you think?

I think Raki would fall into that category of "special" human.

Don't worry Useless, I don't abuse power in 1MMCM, it's Prezzo who likes to lead those uprisings. :lol:
I only report newbies who spams! :devil:

Previous post?
You expect me to read that?
*reads it*
*coughs* (I guess I can see where you might get lost in this post...so all that was unimportant. Just letting you know ;))
I don't think the human has to be special, just not afraid. The special one would have to be the AB. Most would just kill a human that got close to them...and then eat it! (b^_^)b
i wonder if youma are necessary to the environment in claymore, there are a few in some towns. It keeps the population at balance and food isn't scarce for either race. Then the Org comes along, these huge super Awakened beings are created in the wake of their experiments and cities even entire regions are destroyed...

I don't think the human population is in danger of eating every food source in the Claymore world...:/
Youma are necessary like humans are necessary. Meaning, they aren't.

[nope]

meh, it still levels out >.>

[Hynavian]

i wonder if youma are necessary to the environment in claymore, there are a few in some towns. It keeps the population at balance and food isn't scarce for either race. Then the Org comes along, these huge super Awakened beings are created in the wake of their experiments and cities even entire regions are destroyed...
I don't think the human population is in danger of eating every food source in the Claymore world...:/
Youma are necessary like humans are necessary. Meaning, they aren't.
Coming to both the points, sadly, Yomas are part of the environment, or better said the world in the manga. The manga was set in a place where there were already Yomas around, along with humans. Hence, they were part of the environment/world. The organization came later as humans wanted to find some means to counter the Yomas.

Previous post?
You expect me to read that?
*reads it*
*coughs* (I guess I can see where you might get lost in this post...so all that was unimportant. Just letting you know ;))
I don't think the human has to be special, just not afraid. The special one would have to be the AB. Most would just kill a human that got close to them...and then eat it! (b^_^)b
Ah yes, good point brought out Useless. I think Abs are more attracted to humans who are brave. Take for example Raki, he's brave enough to stand up to the AB who tried to eat him in the Ophelia vs Clare arc and he dared to save Priscilla from a crumbling building. Moving on, Agasa was also attracted to Syd for being brave enough in his attempt to back stab her.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

Ah yes, good point brought out Useless. I think Abs are more attracted to humans who are brave. Take for example Raki, he's brave enough to stand up to the AB who tried to eat him in the Ophelia vs Clare arc and he dared to save Priscilla from a crumbling building. Moving on, Agasa was also attracted to Syd for being brave enough in his attempt to back stab her.

Yeah, but attracted doesn't always mean living peacefully. Agasa probably would have done ****** and **** to syd then get bored and eat him :lol: .....and for all we know, Isely may be keeping Raki on a whim and nothing more. As I remember, priscilla destroys a town but always leaves the women alive...I think?

[Useless]

I have to go now...>.>
I must remember to return here, as I always forget and keep my impression as "that one douche bag".
Anyways, responding to your post. The youma and humans are a part of the environment, but are they necessary? I think that was the (unanswerable) question.

I agree with you on the AB thing, but I don't think its necessarily bravery. If a human possesses and extraordinary trait that amazes them, they'll like them. However, I think its in a pet like way. Like how a person would like a dog that could walk or do some degrading thing they show on tv, for the novelty value.

[chezkimo]

Um, what's with that super spammer?!! lol, he dosn't make sense.........what a looser!!

Anyway, in terms of the nature of a common AB, humans and ABs cannot co-exits. however, in the case of smarter AB such as the high level ones like the abyssal ones and those that have been around longer, as we've seen with Raki, humans can be kept as pets. (but i wouldn't cal it co-existing!)

But when you guys were using the example of clare and riful, i don't think that can be used as an example because it's all about how riful and clare would use each other to reach thier goals. Once Riful had achieved her goals, she'd rip clare apart.

Oh, what about if miata awakens. seeing as clarice is her "mama" d'you think she would keep clarice with her against her will so that 'mumma and miata can live together forever' (view of miata)

Oh and about the ABs having a human form. that's easy to explain. When claymores awaken, they are still half yoma, half human, but the overflowing of yoki has transformed thier body and the yoma side of them has taken over. So...like how kjean transformed into her yoma form, then back till her human, why can't an AB do that, except because they have awakened they still have the mind of an AB/yoma.

So i guess, it's like the opposite of awakening and then coming back.

[Useless]

Um, what's with that super spammer?!! lol, he dosn't make sense.........what a looser!!

Yea. I agree. >.>'

Oh, what about if miata awakens. seeing as clarice is her "mama" d'you think she would keep clarice with her against her will so that 'mumma and miata can live together forever' (view of miata)



I think that would happen. When Ophelia awakened, she still had the mentality of hating ABs and kept the same thoughts, they were just infused with an incessant need to rip apart a human! (b^_^)b
Miata would keep the same thoughts as well, she would just eat people...

[Hynavian]

Yeah, but attracted doesn't always mean living peacefully. Agasa probably would have done ****** and **** to syd then get bored and eat him :lol: .....and for all we know, Isely may be keeping Raki on a whim and nothing more. As I remember, priscilla destroys a town but always leaves the women alive...I think?
I think it also depends on the AB that you have in mind too. Agasa would have ****** and **** Syd and then ultimately eat him but that does not applies to all ABs. Agasa, on the first hand, has shown an overwhelming female sexuality, the first of her kind. The other female ABs (that we have read so far) have not behaved like her.

Take Priscilla for example, she might or might not ****** and **** Raki because:
1) Priscilla is not Agasa.
2) Raki is not sexy enough, who would want to do him in? O_o
3) She might really like Raki and wants him as her pet or maybe temporary partner.
4) Or maybe she might want .....I better not go there. :lol:

I have to go now...>.>
I must remember to return here, as I always forget and keep my impression as "that one douche bag".
Anyways, responding to your post. The youma and humans are a part of the environment, but are they necessary? I think that was the (unanswerable) question.

I agree with you on the AB thing, but I don't think its necessarily bravery. If a human possesses and extraordinary trait that amazes them, they'll like them. However, I think its in a pet like way. Like how a person would like a dog that could walk or do some degrading thing they show on tv, for the novelty value.
Ok see you around Useless, today was a good discussion! :p

[Hynavian]

Anyway, in terms of the nature of a common AB, humans and ABs cannot co-exits. however, in the case of smarter AB such as the high level ones like the abyssal ones and those that have been around longer, as we've seen with Raki, humans can be kept as pets. (but i wouldn't cal it co-existing!)
Ah yes, I have never thought of seprating the mentality of awakened beings into different categories; like normal ABs and Abyssal Ones. From how I view it, the smartness of ABs does depend on how long they live but its not totally true. It appears that they're smarter because they have lived longer and hence, got more time to study. Imagine studying high school for 10 years while a rookie just enrolled and is in his 1st year....yup, think education.

New Abs might be start but maybe they might lack the experience as an AB. If Miria is to awaken, I don't think her intelligence would degrade and she would be just as smart, possibly whipping and eating towns of humans.

But when you guys were using the example of clare and riful, i don't think that can be used as an example because it's all about how riful and clare would use each other to reach thier goals. Once Riful had achieved her goals, she'd rip clare apart.
Good point made captain, it's about mutually using each other to the maximum. Riful might rip Clare apart at the end of it but that doesn't mean that Clare would stand there and be ripped apart. She'll most probably run away or sabotage Riful somehow and bring her down, along with her.
Oh, what about if miata awakens. seeing as clarice is her "mama" d'you think she would keep clarice with her against her will so that 'mumma and miata can live together forever' (view of miata)
My guess is that Miata might still treat Clarice as her "mama" as ABs retain their past memories. She did acknowledged Clarice as her "mama" and it would be weird if she awakened and called her "papa" right? :lol:

[Hynavian]

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