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SilverKunai
08-01-2007, 09:44 PM
What do you think about this manga? Or on any of the characters? Well. Say it here.

MangaAddict
08-03-2007, 05:59 PM
Latest chapter... I knew Kuro wasnt goin after fai...

Arystar Krory
08-04-2007, 09:28 AM
this is a pretty sweet manga..I like the magic and the fights

Kay
08-04-2007, 09:35 AM
hmm i do wonder,will sakura really forgot bout syaoran after she get all of her feathers? if so i dont think syaoran have any reason to live(not really actually) anymore XD

Arystar Krory
08-04-2007, 09:37 AM
the manga will probaly be like"i don't need the old memories cause I got the ones from the journy" or maybe he'll get laid in another world and forget about her...

Kay
08-04-2007, 09:41 AM
lol forgot bout his lover? probably or clamp decide to make a happy ending

Arystar Krory
08-04-2007, 09:46 AM
like wat? I'm were going to have a baby but I don't who the hell are u?...it's not going to be one of the best endings that's for sure.

Kay
08-04-2007, 09:58 AM
lol like the magician(not fye but the dimesion lady) take back what she say...even though i doubt it ever happen or sakura remeber syaoran becoz of love lol

Arystar Krory
08-04-2007, 10:08 AM
sakura remember cause of love...that would cheezy...

Kay
08-04-2007, 10:15 AM
well what you expect from female artist XD

MangaAddict
08-04-2007, 05:34 PM
Knowing clamp there wont be a happy ending for this one...

CheshireCat
08-04-2007, 06:14 PM
Tsubasa strikes me as a random mish-mash of characters that CLAMP randomly decided to put together. It seems really disjointed at times but at other times, it seems really fluent.

Ven
08-04-2007, 09:46 PM
...It's not that random. It's bascially Destiny and Twisted. Yup. Haha. And MA, I'm starting to think that too. Maybe for one of the characters it will be, Muh.

SKATEateer
08-04-2007, 09:51 PM
i liked it it was just ok...

tsunade666
08-08-2007, 01:19 PM
hmm expect maybe its good to have the main character die as an ending for a change:lol:

Grawr
08-08-2007, 03:55 PM
I am thinking that this series will end with a mix of tragedy and a somewhat twist of an ending. =.=;;

MangaAddict
08-08-2007, 04:43 PM
I dont think its random... I think it statred off cute and nice and now its getting twisted (Just like Ven said) and I think it will have a terrible ending...
This manga and xxxholic are supposed to tie up all of clamps works so characters are introduced from their other works, maybe that could be considered random?

Alberio
08-08-2007, 04:58 PM
Hmm, Lots of stuff ha been going on in this manga, Sakura leaving, Fai's background, etc. It feels slow to me right now, probably because they haven't gotten any feathers in what seems like 10 chaps. Several people I know online said they wanted the real Syaoran-kun to die, I don't like that thought much. Too bad they both can't live with each one blind out of one eye, but then CLAMP would have to draw a faded eye on each one lol. For now, it seems as if only one person would die that it would be Kurogane or one of the Syaorans.

Damn thats like several streamlined thoughts haha But that is what it is, Fai=Vamp o0; I keep thinking that this may end up like Legal Drug between Fai and Kurogane.

MangaAddict
08-08-2007, 07:12 PM
I dont think this manga wont have any shounen ai in it, it would lose its male audience...
I think that the real syaoran should die... only cause I want the clone syaoran to gain a heart of his own and end up with sakura... hopeful wishes that will never happen..

Cyber
08-08-2007, 07:42 PM
The story really changed in the beginning I didn't expect much of it, a boy a girl memories lost. The boy goes to find the memories, but I really liked it and the more the story continues the more twisted it becomes.

Grawr
08-08-2007, 09:35 PM
All I know is that this series is really unexpected.
Confusing at points also.

Jaina
08-08-2007, 09:48 PM
I'm finding the series really odd, it started off so happy - the group coming together and working to get Sakura's feathers. But it's gotten so dark so fast. I think personally that despite the fact Sakura's lost her memories of her past of Syaoran she'll love him and that'll break the time space witches thingy. Either that or her last feather wil contain the memories of him. Just at the moment doesn't seem like there will be a happy ending.

punkypeggy
08-08-2007, 10:22 PM
All I know is that CLAMP stated that a very important character is going to DIE.
I really really hope it won't be Fai :S

I've adored this manga so far, but they don't seem to leave any character untouched by misery XD

mayti_01
08-09-2007, 04:05 AM
I really like this manga, its become really twisted never would have guessed fai had such a dark background. I really am not gonna even guess how its gonna end i hope its both happy and sad and i hope fai isn't the important character to die too.

Wagamama Busaiku
08-09-2007, 04:34 AM
I wish the next chapter would come out now.

israellaa__x3
08-09-2007, 04:49 AM
Fai's background has really confused me, as well as the past 60 chapters or so. I can't remember when the manga turned dark..

It makes TRC much more interesting though. :]

I don't think the ending will be all happy.. considering the fact that Sakura will never remember Syaoran. Kurogane and Fye don't have great backgrounds either. :/ Plus the vampire thing.

Haha, I have no idea where this is gonna go. Dx

spixie
08-09-2007, 05:11 AM
yeah seriously, starting from the Tokyo Arc, everything just sorta goes weird... pretty cool though

edna777
08-09-2007, 06:45 AM
haha love the iSyaoran :)

edna777
08-09-2007, 06:47 AM
Fai's background has really confused me, as well as the past 60 chapters or so. I can't remember when the manga turned dark..

It makes TRC much more interesting though. :]

I don't think the ending will be all happy.. considering the fact that Sakura will never remember Syaoran. Kurogane and Fye don't have great backgrounds either. :/ Plus the vampire thing.

Haha, I have no idea where this is gonna go. Dx

I wonder if they'll be able to get Fai's eye back from clone-Syaoran? Then Fai will return to human and he won't have to suck blood from Kurogane anymore...
I really hope so... I believe Kurogane's a nice, trustworthy guy, despite his rough behavior.

spixie
08-09-2007, 06:52 AM
I wonder if they'll be able to get Fai's eye back from clone-Syaoran? Then Fai will return to human and he won't have to suck blood from Kurogane anymore...
I really hope so... I believe Kurogane's a nice, trustworthy guy, despite his rough behavior.

haha, how true, but another question is, what will happen with Clone Syaoran - Syaoran - Sakura thing... like.. will they end up killing one of them and what not.

Fan
08-09-2007, 09:54 AM
Well... All we can do is wait for next chapter. But i hope they will get Fye's eye ....

spixie
08-09-2007, 05:18 PM
true that, although i would think that the vampiric Fai would be a valuable asset right now to the team o.o

btw edna, i've seen an iKurogane somewhere before, it's like the iSyaoran, cept with a blue background and kurogane or something like that

israellaa__x3
08-09-2007, 05:24 PM
We haven't seen Clone Syaoran or Sakura in a loong time.

Apparently, Kurogane is the only 'good guy'. That greatly depresses me.

Kira=God
08-09-2007, 08:38 PM
yeah i wonder what the clone syaraon is doing he was cool when he had a heart and i sort of like him now...when hes ruthless and heartless :P
Kurogane the only good person...what about syaoran the one thats the decendant of clow reed? hes still good hes all devoted to protecting sakura and stuff hes still good aint he or is there something i missed?

israellaa__x3
08-09-2007, 10:52 PM
Eh, from the original group, that is. Original Syaoran has only recently joined..

spixie
08-10-2007, 02:18 AM
wellll... you can't really say clone syaoran is bad.. he just doesn't have a mind of his own anymore... well not really a mind of his own, just.. all he is now is a construct that follows like a given set of rules.

israellaa__x3
08-10-2007, 04:57 AM
It'd be a really cool twist if clone Syaoran helped them. B)

justxcherri
08-10-2007, 06:01 PM
haha, how true, but another question is, what will happen with Clone Syaoran - Syaoran - Sakura thing... like.. will they end up killing one of them and what not.

yeh...i just hope C-syaoran gets his heart back and he and sakura end up together, it'll probably had a cheesy but sweet ending like ' despite i lost my old memories with syaoran i have my new ones from the journeys etc' sakura's come love him anyway so yeh kno...

omg who woulda guessed fai had such a dark background...well he's actually yuui but yeh kno...i actually love the dark twist of this, makes it more gripping.

But...i have a question, on wallpapers etc syaoran alwayz has this staff thingi and so far in the manga theres been no appearence of it, his only weapon is the sword...so when does the staff come up?

Ven
08-10-2007, 09:02 PM
I think its a Gimic thing, like a costume...Or it could be C!Syaoran and, since we haven't seen much of him, we don't see the staff yet.

frozen~chaos
08-11-2007, 03:41 AM
the thing that surprised me most about this story was Fai's background... i was totally confused for a while too, when they were having flashbacks of Fai's past

spixie
08-11-2007, 05:54 AM
from what the manga is now, TRC might have a rather depressing ending for either Syaroan or his clone... lol cause something's gonna have to happen to one of them.

Sakura74
08-23-2007, 02:03 AM
i like the whole story! i have no clue what will happen in the end! i also saw the anime but only some episodes! my favorite characters are fai and kurogane

MangaAddict
08-23-2007, 03:10 AM
I dont like the anime as much as the manga....
But I think this will definitely have a sad ending. Especially for the clone...

blacpanda
08-23-2007, 04:22 AM
All i can say about the manga is that i loved it until the clone part came up. From there on, it became confusing. Now, all i'm hoping for is a happy ending (example, the two clones merging into one *possible*)

MangaAddict
08-23-2007, 04:33 AM
Yeah, I also hated that the syaoran (shaoran) we came to love was cruel and fake... Im still hoping he'll "gain a heart of his own" like the real syaoran said...

edna777
08-25-2007, 06:40 PM
Yeah, I also hated that the syaoran (shaoran) we came to love was cruel and fake... Im still hoping he'll "gain a heart of his own" like the real syaoran said...

remember, as someone in the thread already, the clone's just an empty shell following fei wong reed's orders...so you can't really call him cruel, can you?

i think the clone getting a heart of his own would be nice but i think fei wong might kill him in the end =[

oh btw, can anyone teach me how to post spoilers, so you don't show it to everyone?

SoulSorcerer
08-25-2007, 08:53 PM
Just use the Spoilers tab: [ .spoiler ] *insert text/pic in here* [ ./spoiler ] without the periods and the spaces.

Knowing Clamp something unusual at the end will happen. I just loved last chapter though, so much magic <3 xD

israellaa__x3
08-26-2007, 02:42 AM
Ooh the last chapter was intense. Well, I'm glad some action finally happened. :/ I think I somewhat get it now! Yay!

But,
where did Sakura come from?!

Alberio
08-26-2007, 02:47 AM
I think that was the world she went to, maybe the clone is there...or that guy managed to disrupt her travel somehow.

I haven't gotten much time to piece the whole story togather, I might put up a quick summary when I do.

aquielleoz
08-26-2007, 01:03 PM
o.O (I'll help you understand it, I hope...)

"Where did Sakura go?"

Well let's first define Sakura's actions in the previous chapters.


First, Sakura wished to (Yuuko to) go alone to a specific world - a world in a dream or Dream World (as all dreams are connected). For her wish to be granted she exchanged her "luck."

Second, the (prophetic) dream Sakura had, was a dream where Fai ended up killing Syaoran. Fai will have to kill Syaoran because a curse was put on Fai - to kill the person who is stronger than Fai. This has been placed by Fei Wang Reed for the purpose of killing Syaoran.
Sakura wanted to prevent this and so devised a way to become stronger than Fai before Syaoran became stronger than Fai. Sakura did this by assimilating two new feathers. Sakura's plan was successful, which resulted in Fai stabbing Sakura instead.

Three, Yuuko granted Sakura's wish. This explains Team Sakura winning the Chess tournament. The prize - which was a robot strikingly resembling Chii - was a way to cross dimensions alone. Sakura was then on her way to her desired world - the Dream World.
At the same time, Chii from Fai's world - Celes Country - opened a dimension gate to where Fai was. This resulted in linking three worlds: the Desert Country, Celes Country and the Dream World.

Four, due to Fai killing Sakura, Sakura was split into two (<<<I'm sure about this...). Sakura's body was now separated from Sakura's soul. Sakura's soul went to the Dream World, since the mortal body can't go there. And Sakura's body went to Celes Country.
Since Sakura's body was near death, Fai and company travel to Celes Country to save it.


To clarify, Sakura's travel wasn't disrupted by Ashura.

Alberio
08-26-2007, 02:02 PM
Alright, thanks. I think I might've missed a chapter, my internet was down for a week, so I needed to figure that out.

MangaAddict
08-26-2007, 06:20 PM
Latest chapter, whats gonna happen to kurogane!?

Outlaw Star fan
08-27-2007, 09:09 AM
Tsubasa has such a good story to it. I hope they show the anime on american TV channels.

MangaAddict
08-29-2007, 01:34 AM
Another new chapter... did anyone read it?

Alberio
08-29-2007, 01:41 AM
Yeah, I want to read the next one even more than I did this one lol

MangaAddict
08-29-2007, 01:46 AM
Yes... I bet the king is still alive though...

Alberio
08-29-2007, 01:57 AM
Possibly, it looks like the curse activated with Kurogane, so it seems as if he killed him, but then again, it could also be something else....It would suck if Fai was the one who died, as well as doubtful.

Ven
08-29-2007, 02:04 AM
Wasn't the curse from Tomoyo supposed to lessen his attacking abilitys (sp?), everytime he killed? If so...If he does kill that damn king, won't he be weaker? O_o I've totally forgotten.

Alberio
08-29-2007, 02:12 AM
Yes, and that was the same symbol from back then, I think unless I need my eyes checked....lol

Kurogane would rather protect Fai, well in his eyes it was protecting, but I think Ashura said he wouldn't kill him.

MangaAddict
08-29-2007, 02:24 AM
Ah, that curse on kurogane... thatll suck for him.
And I thought that syaoran was more powerful than fai, so if he couldnt kill ashura then he must be very powerful and extremely hard to kill... which is why Im doubtful that he will die...

Ven
08-29-2007, 02:27 AM
Fai is more powerful than Syaoran, at the moment, that is. Syaoran is still growing, rapidly though. And the Clone Syaoran, I wonder if he's holding some of his magical power? Or is just Fais?

riverclear
08-30-2007, 07:01 PM
The clone syaoran stole fai's magic, so i guess for now it belongs to the clone until and if fai gets it back.

About kurogane, the seal didnt it protect him. I thought the seal tomoyo set on him only activated to punish him for killing, why would it protect him? It did protect him, right? Or am i misreading this.

Synyster Gates
08-31-2007, 04:53 AM
heh heh love fai and his nick names for kurogane kuro-tan kuro-puu kuro-pipi and my fave kuro-wan wan

Twitchy
08-31-2007, 09:18 AM
I've been reading this manga for a while, but I've recently gotten very obsessed with it. =D Since CLAMP said a main/important character is going to kick it, I'm thinking it'll be on of the Syaorans. :(

adrastea
09-02-2007, 05:03 AM
I was wondering , in Cardcaptor sakura made a card with a heart.
Maybe with that they can give the clone a heart?

Alberio
09-02-2007, 05:04 AM
Hm...maybe, considerng one of her wand thingys are in Yukko's shop, those who read xxxholic also know what I'm talking about.

SoulSorcerer
09-02-2007, 03:04 PM
I was wondering , in Cardcaptor sakura made a card with a heart.
Maybe with that they can give the clone a heart?

Sorry but no. That card was once named ''Namless Card'', and, in the Second SCC Movie, it fuses with ''The Nothing'' and become ''The Hope''. Very good movie indeed, the second movie is actually the very end of SCC...but we can't be so sure about that...

NOTE: I can't believe the type or relationships CLAMP made in SCC. They scare the hell out of me. Tomoyo and Sakura (Tomoyo said ''I love you, I'll explain when you grow up'') Touya and Yukito ('nuff said), and just now I read at Wikipedia that Sakura's Teacher, the female one, is in love with Eriol (Clow Reed reincarnation, who btw, is a kid) and he's inlove with her aswell, I also read that they were last seen holding hands disccussing their future.
It scares the HELL out of me, apart from that, the fight/actions scenes are just awesome, same with the plot.

BlackNinja
09-02-2007, 09:01 PM
i didnt read this manga fo awhile now, so idk wats happenin
ill read it later
but i hav a question? yea so, the gurl(i think her name is Sakura,idk) likes the clone Syaoran or real Syaoran, which one? if she likes the clone, man ill be so disappointed, but when clone an real fought an clone left, it looked like she liked the clone, and the chess match, where she didnt talk to the real Syaoran, also looked like she doesnt like the real Syaoran.

i kno this happened like awhile bak, but can some1 clear this for me, plz.

SoulSorcerer
09-02-2007, 09:16 PM
First, she didn't like the real Shaoran, sometime happened and she started to like him.

Alberio
09-02-2007, 09:16 PM
She likes the clone, you porbably saw how she was acting, she won't go uch past accepting the real one/ or at least past being friends, because he isn't "her Syaoran" because the clone is the one she knows and the real one never met her except in the clone's memories.

Thats pretty early on though, now she will be friends with him, whenever they meet up again anyway. What chapter are you on?

BlackNinja
09-02-2007, 09:27 PM
She likes the clone, you might've saw how she was acting, she won't go uch past accepting the real one/ or at least past being friends, because he isn't "her Syaoran" because the clone is the one she knows and the real one never met her except in the clone's memories.

Thats pretty early on though, now she will be friends with him, whenever they meet up again anyway.

well i hope she becomes more than jus friends wit the real Syaoran
but i kno that she didnt kno the real Syaoran but he did this to save i think, cuz he got caught an than he give his eye/part of his heart to the clone, so in way if it wasnt for him the clone wouldve been cold towards her, rite?

and if the first page of the manga where Syaoran and her meet in the glass jar or somethin, it looked like she was happy but idk if it was the clone or real, man i hope the mangaka somehow answers these questions, i hope

i want the real Syaoran and her to be together, i hope she likes hime bak cuz he likes her

edna777
09-03-2007, 12:30 AM
kinda random, but does anyone else remember the color pages in the very first chapter (I think it was first?)? wasn't sakura and syaoran both stuck in the dream world but they were separated by a barrier?

Alberio
09-03-2007, 12:47 AM
Dream World? I don't remember it, sorry but my mind is blank there, but I do remember some weirdo zone like thing with a tube with two bases at the ends and the zone looked like it was falling apart.

SoulSorcerer
09-03-2007, 01:01 AM
Talking about random, does anyone remember the staff Syaoran was holding in the cover of the first chapter? Did the Mangakas just dropped that?

Alberio
09-03-2007, 01:05 AM
Yeah I remember, and most covers and chapter first pics are just to look cool and draw the reader in, unless they actually plan on him getting that staff, which is highly doubtful. So basically its unlikely that staff had any purpose other than promoting the manga to certain readers.

SoulSorcerer
09-03-2007, 01:09 AM
Awwww Dx

It totally worked though, if Clamp makes a Shounen Manga with a Male Wizard as the protagonist I'd totally be into it. (Please, do not bring Negima up, lol)

But yeah, at first, I thought he was going to be this great wizard...something like CCS..but without all the phedophiles and gays.

Alberio
09-03-2007, 01:17 AM
lol I'd think more along the lines of FT than MSN.

But, if he did learn magic from Fai now, or knew magic from the begining that would've been so cool with his current fighting style.

But about the two covers, you could tell Negima would be a harem from the cover, and first chapter.;)

adrastea
09-03-2007, 04:20 AM
Sorry but no. That card was once named ''Namless Card'', and, in the Second SCC Movie, it fuses with ''The Nothing'' and become ''The Hope''. Very good movie indeed, the second movie is actually the very end of SCC...but we can't be so sure about that...



I know but that happened in the movie and not in the manga that's why i asked.

Ichihimefan!!
09-03-2007, 05:37 AM
why did they use the same characters as Cardcaptor Sakura in this anime... i mean it doesn't make sense to me..

Tsuki
09-03-2007, 06:58 AM
why did they use the same characters as Cardcaptor Sakura in this anime... i mean it doesn't make sense to me..

Tsubasa is a mix of all the works of CLAMP... ( characters like Chii from Chobits, Yuuko from Holic, Ashura from RG Veda...)

SoulSorcerer
09-04-2007, 02:05 AM
They are NOT the same characters.

Alberio
09-04-2007, 02:12 AM
Well, in some cases anyway, such as the Chi one from what I can see, but Sakura from CCS was mentioned in xxxholic so she was the same. Tomoyo is definatly not the same Tomoyo neither....Heck, the majority are just the same name/appearance but in different dimensions or something.

SoulSorcerer
09-04-2007, 02:16 AM
Yep, after you read first chapter you can realize they are different persons.

Does anyone have the Magic Circles that Sakura, Clow Reed and the Yue from TRC used?

Alberio
09-04-2007, 02:21 AM
Erm people, sorry I'm a grammar freak, even though I mess up myself sometimes.

Nope, I'm pretty sure I can find em' if you want me to, since I seem to find things pretty easily...

SoulSorcerer
09-04-2007, 02:25 AM
Nah it's ok, I had them a while ago...not the best quaility though. I think I'm going to do a Sig with them, they look cool, lol.

Tsuki
09-04-2007, 12:58 PM
Heck, the majority are just the same name/appearance but in different dimensions or something.

So with this 'different dimensions thing' all the other stories can be connected... It means everyone has alternate lives in other worlds...
In the beginning of the story Yuuko said something about meeting the same people in the different worlds, but they won't be the same person only their souls are the same... (or something like that if I remember correctly...)

luciferhellblazer
09-04-2007, 01:10 PM
as in multiverses ?! that's like mulitple universes... parallel universes to be more precise...

Tsuki
09-04-2007, 07:20 PM
yeah, that's exactly what I wanted to say... Like we met Tomoyo in Kurogane's country, where she was the princess and we met another Tomoyo in that Piffle (or what ever the name was...) country, where she was a rich boss of a company... Or Yukito and Touya.. a priest and king in one world, and waiters in a restaurant in another... And we even met 2 Ashuras... (one in love with Yasha, and one from Fai's country...)

Alberio
09-04-2007, 11:13 PM
Yes Tsuki, this and xxxholic seem to be their linking mangas, mainly this though. Its funny seeing each character's personality from each world, because some are pretty close, while others seem a bit more different at heart.

This is similar to what could be possible with the membrane theory, which some beleive to have caused the Big Bang, making it possible to have many universes possible. People probably wouldn't be the same in those universes so they are more parralel like lucifer said.

New chapter is out, Kurogane was indeed protected by the seal, strangly.

Tsuki
09-05-2007, 10:24 PM
Now that they killed King Ashura, one thing isn't clear for me... Why did Ashura start killing the people of his country in the beginning ???
OK he's magic increases if he kills, but that's a very stupid reason to start murdering people for the sake of breaking a curse...

Alberio
09-05-2007, 10:37 PM
Maybe he had another reason, or possibly he could've just been too ambitious back then...
I think I might've missed something in that chapter so I'll re-read it soon, but slaughtering people is really bad when just trying to gain power is just pathetic...

Oo.TsuKikO-chAn.oO
09-05-2007, 11:41 PM
i luv tsubasa!!!!

that's my favorite manga!!!

:thumbup:

Alberio
09-05-2007, 11:44 PM
dang, that was outta no where.

Since I' assuming you're new welcome to the OMF, enjoy your time.

Have you read the rest of CLAMP's work?

HellecticMojo
09-06-2007, 12:57 AM
I wonder if they will meet off world version of themselves?

Like Kurogane meeting Kurogane. Hell, meeting Syaoran and Sakura from CCS world (that's going to be really depressing as hell for Syaoran)

Alberio
09-06-2007, 01:06 AM
Well, she is so little, so I don't think it will be that bad, but he will be despressed...

Its would be interesting to see another Watanuki or Yuko.

Oh and can you cencor that, some people don't like it, so I say heck...

gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 01:07 AM
Mokona is awesome! My friend drew a picture of him for me.

Alberio
09-06-2007, 01:15 AM
Some characters would have some really cool counterparts, I think we should see Kurogane meet Kurogane as well, that would be quite interesting...

MangaAddict
09-06-2007, 03:46 AM
Did everyone see the new chapter on OM? It was pretty good... I really enjoyed the art in this last one too...

Alberio
09-06-2007, 03:49 AM
Do you mean 165? That was up yesterday...but yeah I read it.

What did you think of the content of the chapter?

Darkreaper70
09-06-2007, 03:54 AM
poor ashura- he only wanted to help out Fai get out of the second curse but hey, his comrades is strong enough to get him out of the situation, also clamp takes to long to tell a story

MangaAddict
09-06-2007, 03:57 AM
So the second curse hasnt been revealed yet? Its hard to keep track...
Now they have another feather at least. I wonder where they will go to next... I also wonder if they will meet up with the clone anytime soon...

Oo.TsuKikO-chAn.oO
09-06-2007, 11:15 PM
dang, that was outta no where.

Since I' assuming you're new welcome to the OMF, enjoy your time.

Have you read the rest of CLAMP's work?
ive read chobits, cardcaptor sakura, and xxxholic...yes, im new here...just joined yesterday...
;)

gr1mmy
09-07-2007, 12:09 AM
Read Rayearth then as well. I and II

j-star.tist
09-07-2007, 12:14 AM
I wonder if they will meet off world version of themselves?

Like Kurogane meeting Kurogane. Hell, meeting Syaoran and Sakura from CCS world (that's going to be really depressing as hell for Syaoran)

man, that's the biggest issue i have with the series. they keep meeting the same people over and over again in each world with a few new ones here and there, yet they never meet themselves. But now that i think of it, yuuko did mention they in each world, those people had the same souls and therefore maybe only one of the same soul per world? as for meeting another yuuko, it may be just me only, bc the series was new to me, but the first world the group traveled to, i had had thought, the wife of the home where they stayed looked like yuuko?

another thing i noticed was how some didn't like ashura. isnt he the good guy? sacrificing himself to save yui/fai? but i'm confused!!!! things began getting too confusing for me once the real syaoran broke outta the seal thing where he was trapped. thus, up to the current chapter, can someone clarify whether the first curse ended or not? If so, when?

Alberio
09-07-2007, 01:16 AM
Yes, I beleive the first curse ended...now the second one has started, but I know how you feel, I haven't taken in much from the new chapters as of late, it started for me once the chess game started because I started reading this while reading another manga. T_T

Ashura was a good guy, but what he did in the past was bad, someone said he was killing people to gain power earlier, so I saw that as a bit bad.

Good point on the meeting themselves thing, it makes sense to me...someone may have something to say against it, but I cn't really remember fine details of many parts of this manga.

j-star.tist
09-07-2007, 01:21 AM
^ question: but did the first curse break bc of sakura or ashura is what i'm confused about.

Alberio
09-07-2007, 01:23 AM
I think it was Ashura, since he was the one who released him and I beleive as long as he owed him or killed him it would stay...

I might have to look back and see what it was after I get done reading UxU.

Oo.TsuKikO-chAn.oO
09-07-2007, 10:51 PM
Read Rayearth then as well. I and II
im not that in to rayearth...i used to watch deh anime though...

Darkreaper70
09-13-2007, 03:55 AM
wow i never expected kurogane to make this kind of sacrifice :\ he is soo cool

HellecticMojo
09-13-2007, 04:33 AM
Kurogane is severely weakened now.

one arm and he killed someone which means Tomoyo's curse on him will weaken him.

one thing I didn't understand, how does chopping off one's arm help Fai escape?

tsunade666
09-13-2007, 05:23 AM
Is the manga version of the tsubasa chronicles different from the anime I have watch the season 1 and 2 and if the manga is different do I have to start from the beggining again?

ninjachappy123
09-13-2007, 10:33 PM
It's soo depressing
but i love it!
I really want sakura to end up w/ the syaoran she was traveling with!
If she ends up with the real syaoron that'd be gay and i'd be sooo pissed:mad:

wat if the 2 syaorons just morphed into one? (stupid idea i kno)

Alberio
09-13-2007, 11:31 PM
Kurogane is severely weakened now.

one arm and he killed someone which means Tomoyo's curse on him will weaken him.

one thing I didn't understand, how does chopping off one's arm help Fai escape?

I think it was a condition for Fai's spell to let Fai come as well...

Oo.TsuKikO-chAn.oO
09-13-2007, 11:33 PM
Is the manga version of the tsubasa chronicles different from the anime I have watch the season 1 and 2 and if the manga is different do I have to start from the beggining again?
there's not that much of a difference so you don't have 2 start all over...

Oo.TsuKikO-chAn.oO
09-13-2007, 11:35 PM
It's soo depressing
but i love it!
I really want sakura to end up w/ the syaoran she was traveling with!
If she ends up with the real syaoron that'd be gay and i'd be sooo pissed:mad:

wat if the 2 syaorons just morphed into one? (stupid idea i kno)
it doesn't matter for me i guess...whoever has deh heart should get sakura...

Alberio
09-13-2007, 11:43 PM
Its not really a stupid idea but...I dunno, she loves the copy so I guess she'll be better suited with him, which would make the real one left out unless he did fuse with the other. Heck, they both might end up dying for all we know.

j-star.tist
09-13-2007, 11:46 PM
wah!!!! TTTT_TTTT kurogane and fye are LOVE!!! ^_^ i just wonder what they're gonna call fye now. the same thing? yui? TT_TT but man, my head's still confused about all this curse thing. I believe things would have flowed better if they had showed up sakura having the dream premonition. well maybe not the premonition, but the dream at least.

but, i wonder what was the cost of that interference? or does it not count bc it was the other mokona who told them about the earring?

Alberio
09-13-2007, 11:49 PM
I think my earlier post said it was a sacrifice(a minute ago changed), but now that I re-looked through things its more likely to not be since the earring was told by the other Mokono and Yuuko didn't do anything about it, you might want to re-look through it and see for yourself what you think.

Darkreaper70
09-14-2007, 04:17 AM
it was probably to replace Fai because it looked like a sphere like thing so it probably needed something to seal, idk if that makes sense.

the real syaoran would probably know and get to love sakura as they travel more, because he saw everything even though he was in the giant tube thingy

Tsuki
09-14-2007, 09:46 PM
the real syaoran would probably know and get to love sakura as they travel more, because he saw everything even though he was in the giant tube thingy

That's true.. but it's not that simple... because the heart that Sakura loved belongs to the real Syaoran, but he said something about the copy's feelings for her were the copy's own and not from the heart he gave him...
It sounds a bit complicated, but the 'soul' that Sakura loves is the real Syaoran, but the one who loves her is the copy Syaoran... (??? as I think so...)

j-star.tist
09-15-2007, 01:26 AM
erm, i was just thinking but there was the part where it was said that two could not leave. Was that pretty much overridden when mokona did the earring thing? or was it not and kurogane's arm became that one person while the real fai became the second?

----edit

^_^ everything has been made clear!!!! if you've been keeping up, read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fay_D._Flourite for clarification if you need it. When you think about it, the one causing all the confusion, minus the clone, is Fay. If you read through his story, it's all clear!!! oy, my mind's at ease!!! I'm just on edge for xxholic now. >_< might want to read the link for kurogane too. ^_^

Oo.TsuKikO-chAn.oO
09-15-2007, 11:28 PM
Its not really a stupid idea but...I dunno, she loves the copy so I guess she'll be better suited with him, which would make the real one left out unless he did fuse with the other. Heck, they both might end up dying for all we know.
nooo!dont say that!T_T

j-star.tist
09-15-2007, 11:35 PM
Oh, i keep forgetting but, does anyone have an idea what the purpose is of the two mokonas in terms of the two futures they have to save?

my guess is that one's for watanuki, but since he's the same as syaoran and the others, do the three count as one future? then the other mokona would be for sakura? O_o

otherwise, one's for watanuki and the other is for the syaorans?

Darkreaper70
09-16-2007, 06:13 AM
dunno maybe the black mokona is to help the white for anything they need

Oo.TsuKikO-chAn.oO
09-22-2007, 03:20 AM
gah! kurogane's arm is gone!...T_T....

Alberio
09-22-2007, 07:52 PM
Yep...getting himself weaker and weaker as time goes on...

I can SO see Kurogane being the important character to die at this rate...like I said, anyone but Sakura is pretty much a possibility(if Sakura died I'd be p.oed, then what would've been the point.!?)

Kazuma
09-25-2007, 05:19 AM
I totally didn't expect him to sacrifice his arm for Fai, can't wait to see what the next world is and sakura in the dream world

Ven
09-26-2007, 09:11 PM
White Mokona's Earing is to Boost Magic, and Black Mokona's earing is supposed 'seal' magic. It's like...a Blanance sort-of-thing. So, Watanuki will probally use the other one. To keep spirits away, rather then use Domeki all the time....Maybe. *shrugs*

I hope we finally get to the Tube thing. Like, at the beginning of the manga...Where Sakura and Syaoran are on each end...I wonder though, is it C!Syaoran or R!Syaoran...?

Kazuma
09-27-2007, 01:28 AM
The one in the dream world with watanuki was that r or c syraoran?( I think it's real) Anyway it looks like it's going to be interesting next chapter.

Alberio
09-27-2007, 03:56 AM
Hm, I think it was the fake in the tube with Sakura.

@Kazuma: I think it was the real one, again another thing I may want to check.

I agree about Watanuki using the Black Mokona's earring since I can't really see anything they might want to seal aside from the copy Syaoran's being controlled.

j-star.tist
09-29-2007, 12:59 AM
KYA!!!! >_< a syaoran and watanuki has met!!! and i'm not sure which it is, but i'll asasume it's the clonee syaoran since it's likely that the;yre meeting in a dream. will the dream end with these two? O_O

tohru4ever
09-29-2007, 05:42 AM
ohiyo!

i'm a Yuui fan! of Fai.....

Tsuki
10-02-2007, 02:16 PM
I think Watanuki met the real Syaoran, since he was wearing the same type of clothes as Fai and Kurogane wore in the last chapter... I really wonder what will be the outcome...

j-star.tist
10-05-2007, 01:04 AM
darn, so it was the real syaoran. aish.....i'm really thinkin that the clone syaoran is watanuki. and could it be that watanuki is that "heart" that the real syaoran told the clone to have/develop? thus that explains why syaoran keeps telling watanuki not to disappear? cuz if he does, the clone syaoran will have no heart and will forevr be the pawn of mr reed bad guy.

thus... watanuki = the heart of clone syaoran.

Tsuki
10-05-2007, 02:33 PM
nice conclusion.. I was thinking of something like this too... (well not exactly this way...) But now I'm really really curious about the connection between Syaoran and Watanuki...

paijin
10-05-2007, 08:17 PM
I agree with that conclusion true...

By the way, Watanuki maybe a important person that can help Syaoran...in something

However it just my guess...^^" im new for this manga but i can told i like it!

gr1mmy
10-05-2007, 08:22 PM
I still think that the best character in Tsubasa is Mokona.

Alberio
10-05-2007, 09:05 PM
White meat bun that is the life of the group made for intresting comedy...A lot of fights were interesting but some of the coolest things were in Kurogane's past. I hope the group does get its life back into it...right now it just feels so depressed.

gr1mmy
10-05-2007, 09:07 PM
I know, this is sort of like the Harry Potter books. Books 5, 6, and 7 all became very dark and depressing.

j-star.tist
10-05-2007, 11:00 PM
who cant like mokona? he's the overall hero of xxx and trc. "mokona is mokana" aish ^_^ i just love that.

gr1mmy
10-06-2007, 12:16 AM
One of my friends gave me a drawing of Mokona. I'd guess full-sized vs. I might be able to scan it if I can fix my scanner.

rachel42
10-06-2007, 05:20 AM
you think that maybe Fye has a little bit of the gay in him? (totally not saying thats a bad thing)
im only only chapter 27 so i guess i shouldnt be suspecting anything right now..

j-star.tist
10-08-2007, 12:28 AM
^ it's a well known fact that in clamp, being gay or les is not an issue. the age difference isn't one either. the way clamp writes out those relationships, it seems natural and normal. thus... i cheer on kuro and fai till the end!!! <3<3 ^_^

Tsuki
10-08-2007, 10:42 PM
I agree with that. And well who knows... there might be something between them ( they already have a deep bound connecting them....)

fusugar
10-10-2007, 08:42 PM
yeh i totally agree fai and kurogane:thumbup:

kino.soel6291
10-17-2007, 01:51 AM
i wonder what country will they go next...and the big price for the group.

adrastea
10-17-2007, 02:54 AM
Well we should soon find out what is the link between shaoran and watanuki, so I guess we wil go to shaoran's world.

darkninja27
10-17-2007, 08:06 PM
I want to see Sharoan kick some *** with his sword and magic. And then i want to see Sakura fall in love with him. Im referring to the real Shaoran.

j-star.tist
10-19-2007, 05:39 PM
finally!!! a new chapter!!! ^_^ the arm was wicked cool yet a little creepy. it seems like it fused into kuro's skin or something. but how sweet!!!! :D kuro and fai, fighting!! <3 our dearie fai has learned his lesson!!!

ah yes.... <_< if fai did that to his eye... clone syaoran didnt have to gouge out his eye to take the magic. TT_TT how sad...fai has probaly come out as the most crippled of the grooup so far, but the journey is no where yet over.

Mogx
11-02-2007, 03:23 PM
Yeah i feel bad for fai. He was the happy-go-lucky one of the group, besides Mokona, and than everything bad that could happen DID happen to him. Poor fai. :( I wonder if he'll ever get his eye back?

Lainemaa
11-02-2007, 06:41 PM
I must be a glutton for punishment. In the space of a week I've read all through xxxHolic and TRC. Colour me confused. And happy. :D

I want Fai to meet Domeki, 'cos I can't imagine what those two would say to each other. And I so want to know what the connection between Syaoran and Watanuki is. And I want Fai to get his eye and magic back. And for clone Sayoran to be the one to die if one of the main group has to kick the bucket. If he didn't manage to develop a heart of his own after years and years there's little chance of him ever doing so. Fai needs to gouge out his eye just to get even. :thumbup:

Balmung
11-02-2007, 08:16 PM
I love this manga, but I'm only on chapter 50! I've been reading this a lot... I want to keep reading unitl I've read: Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles, Fullmetal Alchemist (I'm about halfway through this series I think), and Bleach (they haven't even saved Rukia yet!). Of course I'll be continuing with Naruto, every week. :D

Lainemaa
11-06-2007, 03:48 AM
A question about the new chapter: Just who is Syaoran's father? Has it been revealed and I've managed to forget or should we expect another big revelation soon?

j-star.tist
11-06-2007, 04:58 PM
I must be a glutton for punishment. In the space of a week I've read all through xxxHolic and TRC. Colour me confused. And happy.

I want Fai to meet Domeki, 'cos I can't imagine what those two would say to each other. And I so want to know what the connection between Syaoran and Watanuki is. And I want Fai to get his eye and magic back. And for clone Sayoran to be the one to die if one of the main group has to kick the bucket. If he didn't manage to develop a heart of his own after years and years there's little chance of him ever doing so. Fai needs to gouge out his eye just to get even.

O_o you read as in chapter 1-171 and 1-144 all in one week? well if you did, i wouldnt be as confused since you're getting all the info point blank without having had to wait for weeks for the next chapter to come out and therefore foregetting what happened in the previous events. :)...as for what fai would say to doumeki?...hehe...he'd probaly treat him the same as kuro, but because he's not hot tempered, i'd say there'd be the respectful attitude as if doumeki were the older one.

A question about the new chapter: Just who is Syaoran's father? Has it been revealed and I've managed to forget or should we expect another big revelation soon?

well we know the real syaoran is connected to clow so of course his dad has gotta be someone up there with ranks like clow reed? but instinct says the dad probaly dispises the fang wei reed? dude as much as everryone. the archeoogist dad was just the adpted father for the clone.


PLUS!!!! MAJOR NOTICE....IT MA BE A WHATEVER OR NOT...BUT LIKE YUKO WOULD SAY, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A COINCIDENCE. DIS ANYONE ELSE CATCH THE FACT THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF CHAPTER 170 AND 171 SYAORAN AND WATANUKI ARE DECKED I=OUT IN THE SAME GARB, SAME ATMOSPHERE AND EVEN POSE? >_< THAT COULD ONLY MEAN ONE THING YES? ^_^

andd...hrm...it seems like syaoran kicked *** in the end. plus...does that mean that tomo-hime no longer can see the future in dreams cuz she gave it up as a price? I wasm't really clear on that. on another note...fai is love ^_^

Tsuki
11-06-2007, 06:27 PM
PLUS!!!! MAJOR NOTICE....IT MA BE A WHATEVER OR NOT...BUT LIKE YUKO WOULD SAY, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A COINCIDENCE. DIS ANYONE ELSE CATCH THE FACT THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF CHAPTER 170 AND 171 SYAORAN AND WATANUKI ARE DECKED I=OUT IN THE SAME GARB, SAME ATMOSPHERE AND EVEN POSE? >_< THAT COULD ONLY MEAN ONE THING YES? ^_^

That was the first thing I noticed when reading 171... and Yuuko's probably right (<-- no doubt this isn't a coincidence...) I really want to know what's behind those two already!!!

About Syaoran's dad... we know Syaoran's related to Clow... but that would make him Sakura's relative as well... (?) Sakura and Syaoran seem to be the same age, so they might be cousins...? Or is it that Syaoran is the son of a 'Clow' from a different world...? (or is that too confusing...?)

and another little thing... in the flash back when they arrived in Nihon was Fai really crying for Kurogane, cause he got seriously hurt...? ~.~

Lainemaa
11-06-2007, 09:33 PM
Fai was propably pretty overwhelmed when they arrived in Nihon. The curses, Ashura's death, then being ready to die to save the others only to have Kuro cut off his own arm to save him. So whether he was crying for Kurogane or not propably doesn't matter. But those two are just so yaoi material...:D

Has it actually been stated in either TRC or Holic that Syaoran is related to Clow Reed? I know he was in Cardcaptor, but since I haven't read that I don't know what the connection to this Syaoran is.

Tomoyo can't predict the future anymore. But we don't know what predictions she has already had and just decided to keep to herself. Every character seems to lose their magical abillities.

Darkreaper70
11-06-2007, 09:56 PM
http://www.sendspace.com/file/wodii2

chap 172 is out

thanks to readable scans

j-star.tist
11-07-2007, 12:40 AM
and another little thing... in the flash back when they arrived in Nihon was Fai really crying for Kurogane, cause he got seriously hurt...? ~.~


^_^ lubby lub lub!!! they heart each other lots!!!! :D


WAh!!! lucky lucky, 172 is out today also!!! ^_^ hrm...that whole fei wong reed charade is getting me confused. so is his plan basically failing or is it succeeding. my gut's saying it is failing cuz after all, these 172 chapter's couldn;t have been for nothing. But anyone wants to reassure me? The language of clamp gets me confused.

anyhow!!! hrm..."for the sake of my two selves." finally!!! BUT...does the two mean him and the clone or the clone and watanuki? <_<

han
11-07-2007, 09:59 AM
Okay im new here so Im gonna start with Tsubasa=love :) It was what got me into reading mangas, and I love how mysterious it is and beautifully drawn and I do enjoy how dark it's become. I love fai and I think Kuro is amazing, particularly since Tokyo he's been so strong and kind. I worry that Fai will end up dying though. I doubt Kuro will unless Fai gets his eye back as otherwise he would just die too, plus after looking at Fai's expression when Tomyo mention Fei Wong (in 172) I get the feeling that if they meet Fai's gonna do something pretty damn bad (plus remember in the chess country after the feeding? "I won't let them hurt us anymore" that could have related to the people watching in the country OR to Fei)

I think Subaru and Kamuii are gonna turn up soon, I hope they do in Nihon and we get some Sei-chan Subaru action (forgive me, I am just reading X/1999 for the first time and not long read some of Tokyo Babylon, and am currently obsessing over Seisherou, and Kakyou for that matter :P)

About Sayorans father, do we think it's Clow or Fei Wong? It has to be one of the 2 to let him have that magic, and he did know Sakura when they were children and he does keep calling her like he knows her well already, maybe like a brother would? Or at least a cousin? Though all this does make the clone thing borderline incestual, which is weird.

And I like the Watanuki Clone idea, but would that make him that special to sayoran? After all he's not fond of his other clone :D It is a really good thought though especially with watanuki not knowing his parents etc, maybe it's becuase he never had any...

Okay, random fan gushing post over!

jedimaster5000
11-07-2007, 11:20 AM
Yeah, the fighting so far is going well. Hopefully, Syaoran will win, because he should be strong enough to do so. Not to mention that he'll have to fight Fei Wong some day (hopefully, not so soon though).

I hope sooner or later everything goes back to what it suppose to be (seriously, I hate it that they look all gloomy and stuff)

j-star.tist
11-14-2007, 04:14 AM
i'm assuming the hand belongs to fei wong reed, but i quite doubt it bc the hand look quite young right? ...and didn't he have hairy hands too? ...then again..that may be my imagination. it's perhaps there to lure watanuki and<_<...anyhow...KYA!!!! Syaoran is coming to the rescue!!!! ^_^ aish....fai and kuro look disappointed though. They wanted some action too!!! but i guess this is confrontation time. syaoran and watanuki will meet at last and find answers!!!..please? ^_^

Tsuki
11-15-2007, 09:02 AM
well... that hand could belong to anyone... I don't think it was Fei Wong... And finally Syaoran and Watanuki will meet, maybe there'll be an answer to their important relationship... only 4-5 days to wait...

Rain-chan
11-20-2007, 12:57 AM
Yeah... can't wait to see the next chapter... I guess it's a good chance the hand belong to Syaoran... hope it does...hehe...
And yes, I've been very curious about the relationship between Watanuki and Syaoran too, it was a bit confusing in the last few chapters...

Rain-chan
11-20-2007, 10:21 PM
Yay! I was right! it was Syaoran!
Anyway, everything seems to be building up.... do I sense the approach towards an ending? I really do hope so! Even though it has been an awsome read I'm still curious about the relationships between the characters and how the cossover with xxxHolic connects...

Thanks again to those people putting the scans up! You’re my hero ^^

Lainemaa
11-20-2007, 10:26 PM
Still no answers to Watanuki-Syaoran connection and now Watanuki seems to again exit the plot. And I had hoped that the inevitable confrontation between the Syaorans would take place somewhere where Fai could participate and get his eye back. Still, can't wait to see what'll happen between those two.

hagarenorenkigutushi
11-21-2007, 12:50 AM
i wonder what the relation shoran and watanuki have...

hagarenorenkigutushi
11-21-2007, 12:55 AM
its really weird that sakura watanuki and shoaran has the same birthday.... i wonder why... yuuko says that everything is hitsuzen so there must be a reason for that.. .LOL! i guess we readers have to wait until clamp tells us... LOL! did you people reas the new chapter?? 174?? its so alsome!! im so excited whats going to happen next!!

Rain-chan
11-21-2007, 01:01 AM
Clamp really like the date; April 1st… Does anything special happens on 1st of April apart from April fool’s?
… It’s the official starting date for Japanese schools (that’s all I know)… oh and it marks the beginning of spring... but that's usually March 25th...

Athos
11-21-2007, 01:24 AM
It's not gonna end there... There is a lot of stuff left unadressed...

The way I see it, syaoran clon will get his heart back, and oh joy, he so happens to have dozens of feathers with him. The quest that seemed like it would take years to accomplish will now be a couple feathers away. The story needed this small shortcut.

Because the original team had found.. what, 10 feathers? out of how many dozens?

Then the original syaoran goes back to his own world... fye gets his eye back... Kurogane gets to show off his new arm... and finally getting rid of that gloomy aura that's been haunting this manga since syaoran went evil.

MangaAddict
11-21-2007, 01:57 AM
I hope the Syaoran's (shaoran?) clone will get his heart back... I think its depressing how he turned evil and everything...
I do really hope that we will see the connection between Watanuki and Syaoran soon. Of course, that would mean that the manga is coming to a close... but the one good thing Clamp knows how to do is end a manga well. They don't drag it out for the sake of making it longer...
I don't know about all of what you said Athos... seems too cheery an ending for Clamp. They like depressing ends... like Tokyo Babylon...

Athos
11-21-2007, 02:06 AM
Well, I know the manga is not gonna end THERE. So they need to get it to be happy again, that way a sad outcome gets more effect.

Judging by the initial flashback (the one with syaoran and sakura separated by glass while she grows wings), there can only be one syaoran when sakura finally gets all her feathers back.

hagarenorenkigutushi
11-21-2007, 05:43 AM
well the manga for tsubasa and holic isnt going to end there... obviously... they might have another 5 or so volumes until the end..... rember they need to collect all sakuras memories and one day they are going to return to clow country... if im nor maing any mistake....

hagarenorenkigutushi
11-21-2007, 05:46 AM
there is no rule that only one of the shoran can be with the group.... ><

hagarenorenkigutushi
11-21-2007, 05:48 AM
i think that tsubasa is getting closer to X/1999.... the manga... if you know this manga/anime.... the story is kinda alike... but its really different in many ways but it has the same kind of information for X.... LOL!

Lainemaa
11-21-2007, 10:15 AM
I like it better when it's dark, gloomy and depressing.

Rain-chan
11-21-2007, 10:24 AM
oh yeah, the feathers (how many are there anyway I wonder)... and they have to defeat Fei wong reed... and there's Clow's secret only Yuuko knows about... ok... maybe it would still take a while to the end... I hope it's not going to be a sad ending...

Athos
11-21-2007, 01:47 PM
I won't deny that it was very refreshing to get some darkness after 100 chapters of watching Fye dancing and going Kuro-pin and stuff. But I kinda miss that "falling in love all over again" thing between Syaoran and Sakura.

Tsuki
11-21-2007, 04:47 PM
well the story might be getting close to the ending... remember the glass tube thing in the beginning of the first chapter, Sakura is wearing the same dress (ok small thing, but maybe not a coincidence...) and that tube looked just like the one Yuuko was holding when Sakura entered the dreamworld... (<-- i don't remember correctly if this happened in tsubasa or holic...) So I think we'll get an answer for that soon...

The connection between the 2 Syaorans and Watanuki is getting a bit complicated... Watanuki met Syaoran in dreams a few times and now Sakura shouted at him not to come any closer... this sounded somewhat like if she was trying to keep Watanuki safe from the clone Syaoran... (maybe she saw something in a dream that we still don't know about...) And now this confrontation between the 2 Syaorans... I don't whichone to cheer for...

About Fai... I don't know does he really want his eye back..? He said he won't die without his magic and he didn't like to use his powers... on the other hand I don't know if he wants to stay a vampire for the rest of his life...

Magister Magi 13
11-21-2007, 05:02 PM
The 2 Syaoran is fighting again! The real Syaoran claims to kill the clone Syaoran but I'm not really sure if Sakura-hime is going to allow that, since she is in love with the clone Syoran since childhood. I tell you the truth I don't want either of them to die, the two of them can make the story become much better!

About Fai, I'm not sure whether he is happy with his Vampiric state or does he want to get his eye back. He's pretty much his normal self again when they arrive in Nihon country.

Rain-chan
11-21-2007, 10:12 PM
Fai has a complexed personality... we don't really know what he's thinking...

And no, I don't want any Syaoran to die!!! but in the end there can only be one... and Clamp has a sadistic streak of killing main characters in the past, no telling if they'll do it again...

Magister Magi 13
11-22-2007, 06:10 PM
NOOOOO!! Syaoran don't die!!! Stay and make the story become better!!! Ya?

Rain-chan
11-23-2007, 01:39 AM
Don't worry, I'm sure one/both of them would be alive untill the end...^^

Magister Magi 13
11-23-2007, 08:38 PM
Yes! They will live! And I can't wait for the chapter. So . . . I got no idea. -_-

Rain-chan
11-23-2007, 10:21 PM
Back to Watanuki and Syaroan connection...
It was the 'real' Syaoran that helped to save Watanuki right? And it was him and not the clone who kept on telling him not to dissapear (in Holic)... so technically the clone Syaoran only met Watanuki once at the beginning of the series at Yuuko's shop? If that's the case then Watanuki's connection seems to be stronger with the real Syaoran than the cloned one...

Hum... and that was a good theory about the hour class thing... no! could it be a sad ending?!... that scene at the beginning was sad...

darkninja27
11-23-2007, 10:23 PM
I hope the clone dies...and then Sakura will go to the real Syaroan..,. And his name Syaoran or Shaoran since the manga changed it im confused...

Tsuki
11-23-2007, 10:45 PM
Syaoran or Shaoran either is fine because the name with "h" is cause it's pronounced "Sha", the name spelled with "y" is because if you want to write Syaoran in japanese you have to use 2 letters to create the sound "sha" = "shi" + "ya" so in translations you can write it both ways... (hope it wasn't too confusing..)

Rain-chan
11-23-2007, 10:48 PM
Either way is fine I think... when translating English into Japanese 'syao' and 'shao' are both written as シャオ so there isn't any difference which ever way you spell it. But when translating Japanese into English it's supposed to be syaoran because シャ should be translated with a 'y' not a 'h' as the ヤ syllable is pronounced 'ya'. And when シ(shi) is with ヤ(ya) ユ(yu) or ヨ(yo) , you drop the 'hi' so it becomes シャ(sya) シュ(syu) ショ(syo), even though the the 's' still retains it's 'sh' sound. That's why it's more common to see the name spelled 'syaoran' :D (Syaoran actually comes from his chinese name Li Xiao Lang (李小狼) in Cardcaptors... so it really doesn't have a 'h' or 'y' -.-; )
=============== ok, language lesson's over... we can go back to talk about TRC now... ^.^

Lainemaa
11-24-2007, 01:46 AM
I always need to watch my spelling really closely with his name. the Y just doesn't want to be in it's proper place. I always try to spell it Sayoran. I never watched the anime so haven't heard it pronounced aloud.

I want the clone to die. Does that make me evil?

Rain-chan
11-24-2007, 09:50 AM
Yeah, in the beginning when I first started to read Cardcaptors I kept spelling Syaorans name too ^^ I though it was wired how they stuck a 'y' in there. But then I learnt Japanese in High school and it made sense...

... why do you want the clone to die? he's nice, and he's the one willing to give up everything for Sakura (even though it's influenced by the real Syaoran)... still, it would be sad if he dies because he was the one that was there all the time...
And the real Syaoran, I wonder who he really is... details of his past etc.

Stifler
11-24-2007, 09:55 AM
I believe that when the clone wanted to "give up everything for Sakura", it was the real Syaoran talking. The real Syaoran's personality was in control of the clone for the most part, and the times when you see Syaoran acting weird/ going berserk is when the clones' real personality resurfacing. So its safe to say that its actually the real Syaoran who was with Sakura, not the clone even though the clones' physically there.

Sounds confusing, doesn't it?

Athos
11-24-2007, 04:42 PM
Well, the clone started with no personality at all. Only meant to hunt feathers. All Syaoran did was to give him a "heart", free will.

The reason both Syaorans turned out similar is because they both met Sakura in their respective worlds (I'm guessing that part). So even if they are both alike, Clone Syaoran has feelings and memories of his own, but he's lost the ability to use them.