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Hynavian

12-09-2007, 07:52 PM

NEW TOPIC
Priscilla, Guilty or Innocent?

Points to consider - to get you started

Which are the aspects are you looking at? (Her awakening, her killings after the awkening, her life as a Claymore etc)
From whose point of view are you looking from?
Your stand? (Agree, disagree, agree here but not there etc)
Back it up with examples.
Think over this: Why is she crying (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/61/21/) in this particular scene and this (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/61/30-31/) scene when the other 24 Claymores are dying?

DO YOU KNOW THAT...

"Priscilla is an English female given name derived from the Latin priscus (old). One suggestion is that it is intended to bestow long life on the bearer.

It appears in the New Testament variously as Priscilla and Prisca. It first appears in English literature in Edmund Spenser's The Faerie Queen (1596) and was adopted as an English name by the Puritans in the 17th Century."

Researched by Hynavian, Sources: Answers.com

SilentBuddhist

12-09-2007, 08:03 PM

Hmm, when she was a Claymore, Priscilla's heart was set in the right place, but she had a view of the world and a sense of justice which was white or black. Everything was either right or wrong, with no room for gray. When she was beaten badly by Teresa, she couldn't understand why a hero couldn't beat a murderer. Her mind was too weak to understand why. That was what lead to her awakening. In the anime, she still had that sense of justice. She still thought she was a Claymore hunting Teresa. She was basically like Ophelia, who didn't know she awakened for awhile.

I don't know for sure why she was crying in the manga, but I think it was either for Isley's minions, who she (probably) knew were sent there, or for the Claymores, since they had more casualties than the minions.

Excel-Kleinwald

12-09-2007, 08:08 PM

In her childish form, she has the mind of a child. And she was feeling lives just being snuffed out, and that just brought her so much sorrow, and that is why I think she was crying.

MacenKrace

12-09-2007, 09:02 PM

Isley week here I am.

Excel-Kleinwald

12-09-2007, 11:08 PM

SilentBuddhist

12-09-2007, 11:11 PM

I would just like to remind everyone to vote for Terese in the round two, battle two of the onemanga character battle! (in otaku chat section)

Also, I don't really see Priscilla as being guilty, because it was Teresa who had pushed her to the edge.
Eh, the regulars are out on exams or something >.< They'll be back soon though! I think...

Excel-Kleinwald

12-09-2007, 11:16 PM

Then I'll just keep reminding them!

SilentBuddhist

12-09-2007, 11:20 PM

Prezzo should definitely have janitor duty for this :lol:

Hmm...I think I'll read pigpie's parody stories again. They're great :D

Stifler

12-10-2007, 02:15 AM

I would just like to remind everyone to vote for Terese in the round two, battle two of the onemanga character battle! (in otaku chat section)

Also, I don't really see Priscilla as being guilty, because it was Teresa who had pushed her to the edge.

I actually think that is was Irene who pushed Priscilla to the edge. All Teresa did was defeat her - she did not goad her on into fighting. But Priscilla's own sense of justice, her seeing the world only in black and white, and Irene's words caused her to push herself too much and thus awaken.

Excel-Kleinwald

12-10-2007, 02:37 AM

Yes, and Teresa defeating her, making her use so much of her yoma powers, pushed her to the edge of becoming an Awakened being.

Stifler

12-10-2007, 03:22 AM

Not really. When Teresa first defeated Priscilla in town, Priss didn't use too much of her powers. It was by her own choice that she over released after Teresa spared her life. Her desire to defeat Teresa kept pushing her till she can't revert.

pigpie

12-10-2007, 06:40 AM

Yeah...that is true,Prissy just can't take that she lost,so she got very angry because of her blind justice.Her being the white cannot defeat the black thus awaken.It is the same with Ophelia,both got so angry that they awaken.

Prissy maybe she is sly ,begging for death but it is a trap to kill Teresa.But now she isn't black or white....She is purple...

BTW,You guys can tell me which character you want me to include in the story....as in those from the manga.

MacenKrace

12-10-2007, 09:19 AM

Stifler

12-10-2007, 11:15 AM

That was when they fought in the wilderness. When they fought in the town, Priss didn't go 80%.

Excel-Kleinwald

12-10-2007, 11:21 AM

But her reason for doing so, was to beat Teresa, that is what I mean by Teresa being at fault, of course Priscilla didn't help herself but hey, she was just so inexperienced.

MacenKrace

12-10-2007, 12:02 PM

That was when they fought in the wilderness. When they fought in the town, Priss didn't go 80%.

Priscilla was fighting blindly in town and she had the upper hand because Teressa was used to sense youki before attacking. Remember how the tides turned when Teressa stepped up a notch?

pigpie

12-10-2007, 12:46 PM

Priscilla was fighting blindly in town and she had the upper hand because Teressa was used to sense youki before attacking. Remember how the tides turned when Teressa stepped up a notch?

You are mistaken.Priscilla wasn't fighting blindly,Irene was referring to Teresa,by fighting blindly,Irene means Teresa wasn't reading Priscillas' yoki,instead she was fightin without any aid thus she was fighting blindly.Teresa already has the upperhand right from the beginning.

Stifler

12-10-2007, 01:03 PM

Right. Teresa couldn't sense Priscilla's yoki as she was suppressing it. Its the first time Teresa fought against someone who could suppress her yoki to such an extend.

Noelle

12-10-2007, 02:14 PM

Right. Teresa couldn't sense Priscilla's yoki as she was suppressing it. Its the first time Teresa fought against someone who could suppress her yoki to such an extend.

Ah, I have so much to catch up to, after disappearing for a day and more. Sigh. Here's my take on the current topic.

Personally, I agree that Teresa had the upper hand from the beginning. Her words in the manga, however, lead me to believe she didn't detect Priscilla - meaning Priscilla's powers of suppression were good enough to fool even her senses. If Priscilla had followed the plan Irene set for them, Teresa would have at least one handicap forced onto her before the battle with the four Claymores began. If that had happened, Teresa [i]might have lost, without Priscilla's Awakening. From here, I would assume Priscilla, if she had experience enough, might be able to at least fight on par with Teresa. [no, don't kill me for this, it's just my assumption]

More or less I agree with Irene's 'fighting blindly' comment referring to Teresa.

Prissy maybe she is sly ,begging for death but it is a trap to kill Teresa.But now she isn't black or white....She is purple...

LOL. I didn't think it was a trap to kill Teresa. During the proccess of Awakening, as shown by Clare in Rabona, actions can be impulsive and uncontrollable [i.e: Clare's claymore nearly killed Raki in Rabona when she was losing control], but with a forced exertion of will, can be still controlled. Priscilla being already unstable at that instant... wouldn't have been able to control her impulsive actions. It might have been an impulse act - a last, final act before she completely lost her humanity. It could have been the final action on her own morals, values and beliefs as a human - before she became something else.

But her reason for doing so, was to beat Teresa, that is what I mean by Teresa being at fault, of course Priscilla didn't help herself but hey, she was just so inexperienced.

Teresa couldn't have known Pris would go bonkers over her head, that's what I believe anyway. No one's at fault, Pris because she lacks experience, Teresa because she doesn't have the power of Clairvoyance. ;)

18fenrir

12-10-2007, 02:21 PM

You are mistaken.Priscilla wasn't fighting blindly,Irene was referring to Teresa,by fighting blindly,Irene means Teresa wasn't reading Priscillas' yoki,instead she was fightin without any aid thus she was fighting blindly.Teresa already has the upperhand right from the beginning.

Hmm.. interesting. I agree it was Teresa who had the upper hand all along (other than the beginning where she was relying on her yoki-sensing to react)

Teresa was clearly the superior in fighting potential (natural reaction, sword play, speed/strength and experience.) And actually if anyone was fightning blindly, it was Priscilla who had yet to fight in a real battle against another claymore and needless to say someone of Teresa's level.

NEW TOPIC
Priscilla, Guilty or Innocent?

Points to consider - to get you started

Which are the aspects are you looking at? (Her awakening, her killings after the awkening, her life as a Claymore etc)
From whose point of view are you looking from?
Your stand? (Agree, disagree, agree here but not there etc)
Back it up with examples.
Think over this: Why is she crying (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/61/21/) in this particular scene and this (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/61/30-31/) scene when the other 24 Claymores are dying?

Well.. imo, her status is dependent on her identity. As Isley says her has regressed back into a child like state. But memories may not be forgotten, her memory of becoming a Claymore, of her parents and brother, her home and the like.

I guess when she cried at the Invasion of Pieta, it was her claymore memories that cried. But curiously she cried twice (once when Raki found her and at that time, the battle of 6 claymores vs the 20ish ABs were beginning and another time when it was over.) I think both were for the same reasons and the intentions of it was to show that her identity as a claymore who cared for her fellow claymores were still present in her state of mine.

But if you regard her when she was killing and eating guts as show in the short story. Where she brazenly took the guts right out of two guys body and stated her reason for the act of killing as doing something "normal". We can tell her line of reason was twisted but she still "innocently" believes it wasn't anything serious as her child-like mind couldn't comprehend such an act. But place that in context with the fact that in one other corner of her mind she has the memory of her father (the yoma that took her father's skin) killed and ate guts and she knew it to be a sin and acted against it. She is actually guilty for act of hiding that fact away (not of killing and eating guts)

New topic up next. I'm trying to come up with something. I should nominate someone to do this, I'm being overworked. :o

You could take suggestions from people for topics? (well here's one i came up with.. Isley's Real Motives behind backing Priscilla?)

18fenrir

12-10-2007, 02:24 PM

@Noelle lol darn it. i spend so much time typing and editing that you posted before me :P (was going to reply to stifler's post but.. now it came after yours haha)

Noelle

12-10-2007, 03:16 PM

GAH! I was happily typing away... just one wrong click and it all disappeared! Now I have to retype everything...

... I am so going to Awaken after this. ;_;

18fenrir - LOL. :eban:! Gah. I didn't realize there was a new topic. And that Pris was the new topic. Geez. I must've skipped a page or something while reading through.

Anyway, I will, uhh, continue from my previous post (http://forum.onemanga.com/showpost.php?p=188944&postcount=30), since I missed some stuff on the new topic?

Think over this: Why is she crying in this particular scene and this scene when the other 24 Claymores are dying?

I am of the opinion that Awakened Beings are the result of a fusion of the human mind and the Yoma side. Therein, ABs retain their human memories and personality traits, because Awakening is merely the fusion of the human mind to the Yoma within . Following my opinion, the strength of the human mind will then determine just how human the AB will be, and how much the Yoma side is allowed to affect them mentally, the exception being their craving for human guts, of course. Physically, they cannot resist.

Priscilla crying for the Claymores dying, was probably due to her human compassion and empathy. She refers to them as 'little lights', but she obviously knows they are living creatures, and that they have a life.

I guess when she cried at the Invasion of Pieta, it was her claymore memories that cried.

Don't forget that now, she had mentally regressed to her childhood. She would have no memory of having killed Teresa, be that impulsive or planned, or even of becoming a Claymore. As a child in every aspect, she can empathize with these lives being lost, resulting in her crying for them - as they, like her, are also human, and for humans to just die like that in great numbers saddens her, due to her simple mindset. You know kids.

(...) She is actually guilty for act of hiding that fact away (not of killing and eating guts)

Personally, I think it was more like a mental regression. She probably cannot remember anything. Pris seems to have so much power, it probably addled her brains alot [see above on my opinion of ABs], so much so that her human mind is... well, freakishly unstable? :eek:

But there's one thing. I'd like to ask about why she had stripped herself naked in that blizzard, because I don't see the connection to her sensing the snuffing out of 'little lights'. It absolutely doesn't make sense to strip yourself because you sensed lives disappearing in some 'faraway place'.

Perhaps she had just finished a meal...

[i]Hynavian - I don't mind helping, since it's the hols for me, I can spare the time! :D After I'm back on the 12th, though. Although it'll be quite hard to dig up some fun facts related to the topics.

MacenKrace

12-10-2007, 08:24 PM

But there's one thing. I'd like to ask about why she had stripped herself naked in that blizzard, because I don't see the connection to her sensing the snuffing out of 'little lights'. It absolutely doesn't make sense to strip yourself because you sensed lives disappearing in some 'faraway place'.

I know the answer to this one... She had to awoken in order to eat so when she came back to her original self she had no more clothes.

18fenrir

12-11-2007, 12:00 AM

Noelle

12-11-2007, 02:10 AM

hehe so her child like brain still knows to not get blood stains on her expensive fur coats :D

Or maybe Isley warned her not to stain them, otherwise he'd go bonkers on her. :eban:

Talking about Isley and Pris, makes me wonder what Raki has become.

SilentBuddhist

12-11-2007, 02:13 AM

Or maybe Isley warned her not to stain them, otherwise he'd go bonkers on her. :eban:

Talking about Isley and Pris, makes me wonder what Raki has become.

Hehehe, Isley throwing a fit over his favorite fur coat :lol:

Raki is probably still the same; he's a better fighter, but he's still human.

Speaking of which, I heard a rumor where 7 years later he's supposed to be a ladies' man... ;)

Oh, and welcome to the RP Noelle ^^

Stifler

12-11-2007, 02:32 AM

Raki becomes a bishoujo man just like his mentor Isley! lol

Noelle

12-11-2007, 02:52 AM

Hehehe, Isley throwing a fit over his favorite fur coat :lol:

Raki is probably still the same; he's a better fighter, but he's still human.

Speaking of which, I heard a rumor where 7 years later he's supposed to be a ladies' man... ;)

Oh, and welcome to the RP Noelle ^^

LOL, thanks :D.

I can't help but imagine the final showdown between Clare and Priscilla having Raki stuck in the middle. Clare, probably soul linked to someone. Pris, in all her Awakened glory and strength. Raki... well... what's he to do when his two favourite girls have Awakend and are battling it out? :eek:

Raki becomes a bishoujo man just like his mentor Isley! lol

:lol:, if Raki was half as cool as Cid I'd be pretty happy already. It'll be a great improvement from before. :p

Tensa Zangetsu

12-11-2007, 03:17 AM

'Hey! How's everyone doing? I'm busy as usual...well here's my quick opinion

Priscilla is guilty. Simple as that. Who cares whether she is crying or what not while the claymores are being killed, it's not like she is doing anything about it. That far from justifies her actions (the killing's) -_-'....this is also an inadequate answer but it must do for now...

as for why she was crying, that is....not really relevant in my opinion to whether she is guilty or not

SilentBuddhist

12-11-2007, 04:05 AM

Welcome back TZ. I could rant on how ghass is about to kick you out of his Rauculus RP...but instead I think I might go against your opinions.

Well, first, you say that it's simple as that...I don't think it is. Her crying doesn't exactly justify her actions, whether she cries for the Claymores or the ABs, I agree with that, but how about that she was pushed to the limit by Irene's words and Teresa being stronger and more experienced than her, and finally her black and white view of the world, which caused her to awaken and kill almost all of the hunting squad? She is just like any other warrior who joined the organization; she lost her father to yoma, and she hates them more than anyone else, and thus, she certified. If anyone is to blame for the past incidents, it is the org, who, knowing yet uncaring, created the Claymores, who will either die or awaken, and become monsters themselves.

Hynavian

12-11-2007, 04:07 AM

BTW,You guys can tell me which character you want me to include in the story....as in those from the manga.
Galatea please. But please don't make her look too ridiculous as I worship her.
Teresa was clearly the superior in fighting potential (natural reaction, sword play, speed/strength and experience.) And actually if anyone was fightning blindly, it was Priscilla who had yet to fight in a real battle against another claymore and needless to say someone of Teresa's level.
In my opinion, Miata's mental state is much more stable than Priscilla on hindsight. She, at least, has Clarice to be her mental support while Priscilla was just clinging on to the memories of her dead family members.
You could take suggestions from people for topics? (well here's one i came up with.. Isley's Real Motives behind backing Priscilla?)
Yes, I will take suggestions. PM me with topics please. The one that you have suggested above was discussed before.
But there's one thing. I'd like to ask about why she had stripped herself naked in that blizzard, because I don't see the connection to her sensing the snuffing out of 'little lights'. It absolutely doesn't make sense to strip yourself because you sensed lives disappearing in some 'faraway place'.

Perhaps she had just finished a meal...
I like Macen answer and to back him up, I will like to add that clothes are hard to get in the Northern region since there are not many towns nearby up in the mountains and they eat up all the people who can some clothes making abilities. :lol:
Hynavian - I don't mind helping, since it's the hols for me, I can spare the time! :D After I'm back on the 12th, though. Although it'll be quite hard to dig up some fun facts related to the topics.
Ok, I'll PM you about this.
:lol:, if Raki was half as cool as Cid I'd be pretty happy already. It'll be a great improvement from before. :p
I think Cid is hot with his cool long hair (7 years later). Much more nicer looking than Isley with long hair (IMO).

Maybe the next topic should be on "The sexiest male character in Claymore is Cid. Comment." :p

Stifler

12-11-2007, 04:13 AM

I think Cid is hot with his cool long hair (7 years later). Much more nicer looking than Isley with long hair (IMO).

Maybe the next topic should be on "The sexiest male character in Claymore is Cid. Comment." :p

I suddenly got this image of Cid and Isley going at it...Gah! It burns! I'm scared for life!

But yeah, Cid looks better with his hair long. Think he would have a chance against normal yomas now?

pigpie

12-11-2007, 08:27 AM

Who is Cid?

Hynavian

12-11-2007, 08:29 AM

Cid is the guy who gave Clare a good bye kiss 7 years back when Clare left Rabona city. He's also in the recent chapter where he tried to back stabbed Agasa but was saved by Galatea instead.

pigpie, read my above post. Add Galatea into your side story okie? :p

pigpie

12-11-2007, 08:55 AM

Oh.....that guy.Did he give Clare a goodby kiss?

I have added...go read....edited a few times

Hynavian

12-11-2007, 02:04 PM

Oh.....that guy.Did he give Clare a goodby kiss?

I have added...go read....edited a few times

Yup, I have read it. I was laughing away. You should publish a book pigpie.

***

Coming back to topic, my stand is that Priscilla is guilty when it comes to taking the lives of humans or monsters or any lives. Regardless of what her reasons or intentions were, a kill will always be a kill and it cannot be denied. As long as she kills or claims the lives of others - she's guilty.

18fenrir

12-11-2007, 02:40 PM

Oh.....that guy.Did he give Clare a goodby kiss?

I have added...go read....edited a few times

awesome. Do alicia and beth too :D the botox deal on the faint smile was hilarious. i couldn't help grinning widely at that :D

MacenKrace

12-11-2007, 04:45 PM

awesome. Do alicia and beth too :D the botox deal on the faint smile was hilarious. i couldn't help grinning widely at that :D

Let's see what awaits us on the 24th then...

pigpie

12-11-2007, 05:11 PM

awesome. Do alicia and beth too :D the botox deal on the faint smile was hilarious. i couldn't help grinning widely at that :D

Okay...shall do one on Alicia And Beth,must be inspired first....by sleeping,will write it tomorrow.

SilentBuddhist

12-11-2007, 05:14 PM

Maybe after that I should request Miria and, um, any other Claymore, maybe Tabitha :p

Excel-Kleinwald

12-11-2007, 11:04 PM

Another reminder that if you haven't already... go vote for Teresa in the Onemanga character battles! Also vote for the upcoming Claymore characters in the next battles to come!

SilentBuddhist

12-11-2007, 11:07 PM

Another reminder that if you haven't already... go vote for Teresa in the Onemanga character battles! Also vote for the upcoming Claymore characters in the next battles to come!
AKA Miria and Clare...:p

I'll definitely be there, but when do votes end anyhow?

Excel-Kleinwald

12-11-2007, 11:11 PM

Exactly a week after they started? Look at the first posts and ad a week to that I suppose...

SilentBuddhist

12-11-2007, 11:14 PM

I knew that much, but I can't remember when they started >.<

Ah, 13th or 14th. My bad :o

Excel-Kleinwald

12-11-2007, 11:16 PM

What are you lazier than me?

Nah... ain't possible...

SilentBuddhist

12-12-2007, 12:13 AM

No, my sickness interferes with my memory >.< I can't help it if I suddenly blank out and forget what I just said :lol:

Noelle

12-12-2007, 12:55 AM

Oh.....that guy.Did he give Clare a goodby kiss?

I have added...go read....edited a few times

pigpie! Your story on Galatea and Clare playing hide and seek was amazing! :D You can consider doing one on Raki and Clare's reunion, maybe? ;)

No, my sickness interferes with my memory >.<

:lol:, what kind of sickness is that?

SilentBuddhist

12-12-2007, 01:02 AM

:lol:, what kind of sickness is that?

It's not friendly, I can say that at least >.<

Basically it's the reason I was away from school for a month.

And pigpie, please consider my suggestion of Miria :D I just thought that Miria's mirages (old ones) vs Clare's awakened legs, and they race or whatever trying to see which one is faster, though they pull off some dirty tricks often to make another fall behind >.< What do you think?

pigpie

12-12-2007, 03:26 AM

Thanks Noelle,a moderator went to see my post and said the Galatea post was crossing the line because I used the orgasm concept.

And pigpie, please consider my suggestion of Miria :D I just thought that Miria's mirages (old ones) vs Clare's awakened legs, and they race or whatever trying to see which one is faster, though they pull off some dirty tricks often to make another fall behind >.< What do you think?[/QUOTE]

Nice one....I shall try that.But I have limit my story...cannot cross the line,later he or she deletes the thread.

SilentBuddhist

12-12-2007, 03:29 AM

lol, True, true...but I didn't see it crossing the PG-13 thread either.

Thanks :thumbup:

Duath

12-12-2007, 03:39 AM

Does anyone think that Raki will be made into a Claymore, maybe even awaken, by Isley?

And is he still with Isley?

SilentBuddhist

12-12-2007, 03:41 AM

Does anyone think that Raki will be made into a Claymore, maybe even awaken, by Isley?

And is he still with Isley?
I don't think he became a Claymore, but he's probably still with Isley.

pigpie

12-12-2007, 05:03 AM

I think Raki is still with Isley....Priscilla is just waiting for a chance to eat him.

SilentBuddhist

12-12-2007, 05:06 AM

I think Raki is still with Isley....Priscilla is just waiting for a chance to eat him.
I'm guessing so too...

And pigpie, thanks for adding your latest chapter. Clare falling off a cliff, Cynthia dancing around Tabitha...Helen pissing Deneve off...it was great. Thanks buddy :thumbup:

Noelle

12-12-2007, 09:49 AM

I think Raki is still with Isley....Priscilla is just waiting for a chance to eat him.

Nah, he's probably Priscilla's dear toy. Dear toys can't be eaten. :p

pigpie, that story was stunning! Thanks for making my day before I spend four boring hours on the plane! :thumbup:

Stifler

12-12-2007, 10:06 AM

LOL She fell off the cliff and died! LOL

pigpie

12-12-2007, 11:10 AM

Now I shall write the likely reunion of Raki And Clare...as asked for by Noelle

Feel free to ask me to write about any character.

Hynavian

12-12-2007, 11:50 AM

Now I shall write the likely reunion of Raki And Clare...as asked for by Noelle

Feel free to ask me to write about any character.

pigpie can you write about Galatea joining the 7 renegades? Thank you. pigpie just became my favourite author for the month.

pigpie

12-12-2007, 12:02 PM

Okay.....but I will write the Luciella and Rafaella one first

18fenrir

12-12-2007, 02:05 PM

Now I shall write the likely reunion of Raki And Clare...as asked for by Noelle

Feel free to ask me to write about any character.

Remember to add in peeps like Galatea, Miria & gang, abyssmal ones and also Alicia and Beth hehe i still can't get the thought out of my head. I told Noelle that Alicia would awaken to be able to spin her blade arms as a fan and blow gusts of wind towards Clare and Raki :lol::lol:

Actually just write as though it was the end of the series :eban:

pigpie

12-12-2007, 03:11 PM

I will have that mentality in mind when wrting the story 18fenrir

Oh No...I feel like this thread is dying......Lets start a new topic..
How will each defiant one look like when they awaken.

Clare: Already Seen

Miria:Some Ghost Like Entity (I am thinking of Phantom of The Opera)

Deneve:No Idea....Her specail ability is healing...I guess a super armoured thing

Helen:Grow Tentacles( Extentable Limbs)

Tabitha:Turn into a giant eyeball(The Groups Eye)

Yuma:Into Yoma...it rhymes

Cynthia:Sunflower Monster.(Cheerful Personality)

18fenrir

12-12-2007, 03:17 PM

Hehe Miria might actually become Fedex service courier no. 2. (no1. was the lion king =])

Deneve? Probably an armoured truck.

Helen: She'll just annoy others to death and become an octopus.

Tabitha? I don't know maybe a kittty with eyes instead of like Luciela with mouth

Yuma? a generic yoma :lol:

Cynthia? lol@ sunflower monster. *SHoots sunflower seeds*

pigpie

12-12-2007, 04:31 PM

I was actually thinking that all Cynthia does is photosynthesis.

Miria cannot be a Fedex empolyee...she will surely open the box to take a look...she have a weird symptom for retrieving data,even useless ones....it is super amazing that she actually check out Clares background,Maybe she checks everyone.She will be like...Oooohh this girl is cute,my potential girlfriend...ewwwww......ugly one.....oh and her name is Betty hmmmm Ugly Betty.

Helen hmmm octopus.....I think a monkey that arms are at the maximum length....annoying monkey.....actually Raki is more suitable.....Raki can turn into a wuss too.

Noelle

12-13-2007, 03:40 AM

Oh yeah, fenrir also mentioned something about Galatea using Yoki manipulation to trip Clare, if I recall correctly, no? =X

LOL at the Awakened forms. -imagination goes haywire-

Well honestly, I was thinking Deneve might become a turtle... you know, the shell, and you can hide inside if you're being attacked... >_>"

Helen as a squid-like AB would be more suitable, I think. Squirting black liquid everywhere is the perfect way to annoy people. :D

Yuma... you know, those big jelly blobs that are called aliens in movies, with their eyes on two long 'sticks' like snails' eyes...

Tabitha... I agree with fenrir, a kitty maybe. xD

I was actually thinking that all Cynthia does is photosynthesis.

LOL, she provides food for everyone after that?

As for Miria... well, a flying squirrel!

Stifler

12-13-2007, 04:01 AM

Cynthia would be at the bottom of the food chain. Everyone would gather around and eat her.

Hynavian

12-13-2007, 04:21 AM

Oh No...I feel like this thread is dying......Lets start a new topic..
You're a hardworking member of 1MMCM pigpie! My favourite :thumbup:
Clare: Already Seen
pipie, you're wrong! We have not seen her awakened form yet. As we all know, the females who awakened all had their clothes ripped off and have nice tilts. And we have not seen Clare's clothes ripped off or her tilts yet. :eek:

Clare - My guess is that her awakened form will be something like Alicia, except that Clare will have more blades. She'll be like a torpedo and her blades will shred others into bits if they're withing range. She won't be able to do extendable hand or hair techniques like some of the awakened beings as she'll be doing somehting like slicing everyone into pieces while she dashed for 100 meters.

Miria - I assume that her awakened form will be something like Rigardo except that it's the female version. Take a look at Miria's stylish hairstyle, it does resembles the mane of Rigardo's awakened form right? And both of them are speedos to begin with.

Deneve - Maybe something like that male awakened being, but female version, found in the slashers where she will have massive regeneration abilities. I don't think she'll be walking around with that much armour like some big bad beetle bot as it will make her look bulky.

Helen - Maybe a form where her hair flies all over stretching themselves and grabbing others. Her extend-able arm technique does not seem to be much of a + point as most awakened being can extend parts of their body, be it their arms, legs or hair.

Tabitha & Cynthia - Both are sweeties and so adorable that I doubt that they will look ugly if they were to awaken. Cynthia is the cutest among the 7. She's also kind hearted, helpful, a good first aider, [insert good comments here] (PREZZO, SEE! I'm supporting Cynthia...I have to bookmark this link and show him when he comes back). Oh back to topic, maybe they might take on human forms when they awaken, something like Agasa but minus Agasa's love for bloodshed and world peace.

Yuma - Maybe something like the Katea's awakened form in the arc where Dulf pawned her completely.

If assuming that the 7 of them awakened, do you think that they will continue to hang out with each other or each party on their own?

SilentBuddhist

12-13-2007, 04:30 AM

pipie, you're wrong! We have not seen her awakened form yet. As we all know, the females who awakened all had their clothes ripped off and have nice tilts. And we have not seen Clare's clothes ripped off or her tilts yet. :eek:
...*Hyuk* :p

True, but how often do you get to see an ordinary Claymore take a bath ;) They can't show the front of Clare, probably because of whatever is on their chests while they're human, (if Yagi san wanted to make it ecchi, he'd do it!) but I still find it as a nice treat :lol:
If assuming that the 7 of them awakened, do you think that they will continue to hang out with each other or each party on their own?
Eh, they'll probably hang out with each other after they awaken, kinda like how Duff and Riful, and Isley and Priscilla are with each other; it's not like they'll get hostile if they stay with each other.

Stifler

12-13-2007, 04:55 AM

Clare - My guess is that her awakened form will be something like Alicia, except that Clare will have more blades. She'll be like a torpedo and her blades will shred others into bits if they're withing range. She won't be able to do extendable hand or hair techniques like some of the awakened beings as she'll be doing somehting like slicing everyone into pieces while she dashed for 100 meters.

I have a picture of Clare's awakened form. Its a really shocker.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/645/amybm8.jpg
RWAR!!! I can run faster at Mach 5 and tear you apart with my blades! Hammerspace FTW!

SilentBuddhist

12-13-2007, 05:01 AM

Is it in the anime or manga?

*extremely curious*

Stifler

12-13-2007, 05:10 AM

lol Click on the spoiler and find out. Its Clare's true Awakened Form.

Noelle

12-13-2007, 05:25 AM

LOL, I laughed my head off. If that is Clare's true awakened form...

SilentBuddhist

12-13-2007, 05:32 AM

...

Ha...hahaha...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! http://th212.photobucket.com/albums/cc144/Frost720/th_laharllaughing.gif

I shed a tear of laughter at that...mostly at myself for believing it'd be intimidating...

I'm off to bed now...*walks away, laughing at himself*

18fenrir

12-13-2007, 01:13 PM

@Noelle yes i did. It'll be typical for a comedy scene :P

@Stifler lol@Clare's Awakened form. A hedgehog and Miria's would be Sonic? ;)

@SB Night :) Oh Oh! Laharl is cool btw. The annoying laharl laughter.. Ha.. Hahah

Hynavian

12-13-2007, 01:23 PM

True, but how often do you get to see an ordinary Claymore take a bath ;) They can't show the front of Clare, probably because of whatever is on their chests while they're human, (if Yagi san wanted to make it ecchi, he'd do it!) but I still find it as a nice treat :lol:
Judging from how the current chapter is going, Yagi-sensei seems to love woman more and more as he's more detailed in drawing them. And I thought that pigpie was the only one who takes note of Claymore bust lines.

Eh, they'll probably hang out with each other after they awaken, kinda like how Duff and Riful, and Isley and Priscilla are with each other; it's not like they'll get hostile if they stay with each other.
Hmm what you said does make sense SB. Imagine the 7 living together as awakened beings. Oh I should start one fan fic too, something like what pigpie did.

I have a picture of Clare's awakened form. Its a really shocker.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/645/amybm8.jpg
RWAR!!! I can run faster at Mach 5 and tear you apart with my blades! Hammerspace FTW!

That was a killer move! :lol:

pigpie

12-13-2007, 03:44 PM

Hey I updated my post,you guys can go read.

Hynavian

12-13-2007, 04:01 PM

pigpie I also came up with a side story for Claymore (http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?p=193600#post193600). :lol:

Yipppeeee!!! Please support us!!!

pigpie

12-13-2007, 04:25 PM

Now we have two story boards.....Support Us.....Maybe Clare should look forward to finding Raki and she can first let Agasa rape him before sharing him with the others.Nice side story,your writing style puts mine to shame *sobs*....mine has many grammatical errors.

Off to another thing.I was just watching Ep8 and found out something off about Prissy,I think she was tricking Teresa making her drop her guard.Firstly,Irene said go for Teresa head with everything she got.And also she views Yoma as an enemy,so when she was turning into a Yoma she should have been begging for death or something....Right?

SilentBuddhist

12-13-2007, 04:50 PM

I shall support y'all right here :thumbup:

Thanks for the funny stories, both of you :D

Excel-Kleinwald

12-13-2007, 10:35 PM

A note I wanted to point out... if anyone can still vote for the one manga character battle, I suggest voting for Zabuza. This way the Naruto votes will be split in the next battle and Teresa will have a better chance of winning! But of course Teresa is winning this one :P

Noelle

12-14-2007, 01:58 AM

Bummer. I voted already. >_>"

-holds up banner saying: "GO PIGPIE & HYNAVIAN'S CLAYMORE SIDE STORIES! GO GO GO!"-

-jumps wildly around-

Noelle

12-14-2007, 04:39 AM

Okay, sorry for the double posting. >_>" Was told by Hynavian to post a new topic, and seeing that most of the hardcore topics have been discussed already... it's time to enter the realms of speculation, just a little. =X

YOKI
Is Yoki tied to a Claymore’s soul, heart and mind?

Note that this topic may require lots of speculation on your part, but do try to draw inferences from evidences and examples in the manga as much as possible.

Some points to consider:

Your stand: Yes? No?
What is the relationship between a Claymore and their Yoki like?
Does a Claymore’s heart determine how strong their Yoki will be?
Think about this: When Rubel is explaining the mechanics of Soul Link to Galatea here (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/62/20/) & here (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/62/21/), he mentions Alicia and Beth do not have much of their ‘self’, or their personality. What are your thoughts on this?

Fun Facts!
The word 'Yoma' refers to a treatise of the Mishnah, which is the first written recording of the Oral Torah of the Jewish people.

Yoma [Hebrew: יומא, lit. Day] is the fifth tractate of Seder Moed [Order of Festivals] of the Mishnah and of the Talmud. It is concerned mainly with the laws of the Jewish holiday Yom Kippur, on which Jews atone for their sins from the previous year.

It consists of eight chapters and has a Gemara [Completion] from both the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud.

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There is also a butterfly in Taiwan whose name includes the word 'Yoma'.

Tribe Nymphalini
Australian Lurcher – Yoma sabina podium

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/sn0wiienoelle/Australianlurcher-1.jpg

Due to the excellent camouflage the Australian Lurcher Butterfly can be difficult to detect, even while resting upon foliage with wings closed.

They are commonly found in lowland rainforest and monsoon forest, and swamp areas near creeks. The male butterflies are known to be territorial and inhabit sunny openings in dense forest. If frightened away they will later return to their original resting places.
Credits to Wikipedia. ;)
For the butterfly's details, Sydneywildlifeworld.com (http://www.sydneywildlifeworld.com.au/?sydney=/butterflies/kids-inhabitants)

MacenKrace

12-14-2007, 08:44 AM

Youki... it doesn't depend on a Claymore's Soul heart or mind. Take for example Irene and Flora. Both strong mentally, personalties are pretty much the same except for some minor differences. Irene is clearly stronger than Flora, not only to the quantity of youki she has but because the is from a different class(lower however).

Take any Claymore you want Youki depends on the youma used to create that claymore. Examples Alicia and Beth, both has been created using the same youma.

Second point: Relation between a Claymore and their youki: depends on the user. Clearly Galatea has a lot of youki, but she uses the youki as she wants or desires , unlike Miata who has developed no skill of her own. the relationship can be resumed to this: a claymore can use it's youki to develop skills and nothing more(that's what we currently know for now).

Third point: No. Clare has a iron will and her youki is small compared to Ophelia who is doubtless stronger.

It refers to the possibility of establishing a soul link. not much of their former self represents actually pretty much 0(zero) on both sides thus so a compatible pair of souls.

Hynavian

12-15-2007, 05:53 AM

My stand is that Youki can be tied to either 1, 2 or all 3 factors but "mind" would play the biggest part.

I would take "heart" to represent the human emotions that the Claymores would be experiencing, just like what every humans does - happiness, sadness, anger and such. As everyone knows that the heart, the literal term this time, is a vital organ that every Claymore needs, it would be necessary that their heart is beating every second so that they can have a chance to utilize their Yoki. I don't see a zombie Claymore swinging her sword in the manga...you get what I mean. For the mind, I would equate it with the capabilities of Claymores to make personal decisions and their determination to carry forth what they have decided.

Alicia and Beth showed that Youki can be linked to the soul. They're classic examples of Claymores who do not have a heart and mind of their own. They might have achieved an extraordinary soul link but they're both characters with low EQ and void of human emotions. They've minimized the link between Youki and heart, Youki and mind.

Youki can also be linked to the heart (human emotions). Take Ophelia for example. She awakened in the forest after she was emotionally unstable. Miria also almost awakened upon realizing that the awakened being that she had killed was her bestest best friend, Hilda. Her Youki went berserk when she was emotionally confused.

However, I argue that Youki is linked most to the mind (will power). Miria proved that mind (will power) could triumph over heart (emotions) as she pulled herself back to normal and did not awaken for the Hilda incident. Jeane, had a fully awakened body, but it was her determination that prevented her from joining the dark side. (oh no...I just provided a counter argument...)

Side note: Oh butterflies :p

pigpie

12-15-2007, 05:57 AM

NEW POST UP!!

SilentBuddhist

12-15-2007, 06:07 AM

Hey all, Clare and Miria are up in the character battles! I voted for the two of them already, I think Miria is in battle 4, and Clare in battle 3. Let's support them! :lol:

I can't make an argument just yet >.< But I can add another fun fact, if you're interested.

There is also an area in Final Fantasy XII, in the Dalmasca Estersand region, known as The Yoma. It's home to some strong creatures, as well as some good treasure, if you look hard enough. I just thought I'd like to add that >.<

Hynavian

12-15-2007, 09:11 AM

NEW POST UP!!
Thank you pigpie, you're my favourite.
There is also an area in Final Fantasy XII, in the Dalmasca Estersand region, known as The Yoma. It's home to some strong creatures, as well as some good treasure, if you look hard enough. I just thought I'd like to add that >.<
Thanks for sharing the information SB. Geezz...I didn't know that the word "Yoma" is actually that commonly used throughout. Well, not so since FF has it's origins in Japan.
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Hmm I'm wondering how much of Alicia's self and personality were left and how does soul link actually work? I don't really get how they link souls or something, the best I can imagine if maybe, you take a brain divide into half and then give one to each twin.

Coming back to the personality, how much of themselves do they actually retain? Alicia definitely is not some mental retard as she can answer questions. She also does not sound impolite when answering the questions. Can we equate that to her personality?

What do you all think?

Noelle

12-15-2007, 09:33 AM

Nice one pigpie! :thumbup:

Whoa, so even FF has a place called Yoma? >_>"

Now, I hope I can post already... ><"

I'm wondering how much of Alicia's self and personality were left and how does soul link actually work?

It is the complete congruency of two souls, hence enabling the perfect alignment of Yoki as well. It also requires the Awakening party to completely surrender her soul and consciousness to the other. Basically it requires...

An identical Yoki flow.
Lack of personality/self?
The ability to completely empty oneself of emotions and surrender their consciousness to the other party?

It leads me to wonder if a soul link can be improvised, though. I can see Clare Awakening to fight Priscilla, soul linked by someone. ;)

I don't really get how they link souls or something, the best I can imagine if maybe, you take a brain divide into half and then give one to each twin.

I think it's basically splitting the Yoma flesh and blood between them, so their Yoki is completely identical. I would be inclined to think that the congruency of spirits and lack of personality/self is what enables them to entrust each other with their spirit and consciousness, while the perfect alignment of Yoki acts as a bridge for their spirits to congruent together. =/

Probably, the soul linker merely keeps the Awakened party's consciousness, acting like a kind of 'warehouse' or 'holder' for it. Therein the consciousness controls its body via the 'bridge', which is the alignment of Yoki, but resting in the soul linker's mind. Eek, this is confusing me. :eek:

Coming back to the personality, how much of themselves do they actually retain? Alicia definitely is not some mental retard as she can answer questions. She also does not sound impolite when answering the questions. Can we equate that to her personality?

For some reason I think there's a little mistake in the conversation between Rubel and Galatea. As in, Rubel may not have told her everything, and the 'lack of personality/self' was Galatea's deduction. She never got to finish her sentence before Rubel agreed, so we don't know what Galatea was actually thinking.

Personally I think Alicia has a personality. It's just that she's been taught, along with Beth, how to have their spirits congruent together. Hence she can completely empty herself of emotions, therefore she appears to have a lack of personality. It probably carries over to her daily actions and reactions, since they had been trained from birth. Imagine how many times she and Beth had to go through this whole 'emptying of emotions/personality/self' process. It's probably impossible to not be affected by repeated practicing. Most likely it's a habit of hers already.

Hynavian

12-15-2007, 06:48 PM

Just a quick off topic question, who's the Claymore character for next week?

I vote for Hilda!
I remembered that some members wanted Agasa real badly, am I right? :p

SilentBuddhist

12-15-2007, 07:09 PM

I did! Just to get her out of the way...and Noelle too! :lol:

But I'll go with Hilda this week too...maybe I can find something to make a good sig on GIMP or PS >.<

I'll get onto the topic: Do I think that yoki is tied to a Claymore's soul, heart and mind?

To start, the heart would represent emotions, good ones as well as bad ones, but I think it also represents how the yoki "flows through their bodies." If they have a strong heart, does that make them powerful warriors? No, but they would be safe from a heart attack :p

Secondly, the mind represents intelligence, willpower, etc. Claymores with a strong mind are much more capable of controlling their yoki and distributing it among their body. And if they come close to awakening, they might be able to pull themselves back without too much trouble.

Zuletzt, (German for last...I just had to say that :lol: ) the soul for me represents the heart and emotions of a warrior, so for the most part, it would be the same as the heart, in terms of emotion. But there is an exception to that: Alicia and Beth. The "soul link", I believe, is how the twins are capable of putting their yoki together, controlling it, as if the yoki were an aura and put the two "auras" into one, thus Beth can control herself as well as an awakened Alicia.

MacenKrace

12-15-2007, 08:16 PM

SilentBuddhist

12-15-2007, 08:18 PM

Guys if you look carefully at the battle you will see that Miria's picture is actually replaced by Galatea's.

I saw that, and even pointed it out. Do they listen? No.

Well, at least she's winning at the moment with a landslide...

Noelle

12-16-2007, 02:43 AM

I did! Just to get her out of the way...and Noelle too! :lol:

But I'll go with Hilda this week too...maybe I can find something to make a good sig on GIMP or PS >.<

NOOOO. :lol: I still keep my vote for Agasa! ;)

Stifler

12-16-2007, 11:00 AM

Was at EOY 2007 at Expo, and this was the only Claymore cosplayer there. Woo!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/stifler-leonheart/P1310587.jpg

Hynavian

12-16-2007, 11:46 AM

Guys if you look carefully at the battle you will see that Miria's picture is actually replaced by Galatea's.
I noticed it but since SB had pointed it out and they ignored it, it wouldn't make any difference if I pointed it out again.
NOOOO. :lol: I still keep my vote for Agasa! ;)
So it's
1. Hilda (2 votes) - Prezzy, SB
2. Agasa (1 vote) - Noelle
Was at EOY 2007 at Expo, and this was the only Claymore cosplayer there. Woo!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/stifler-leonheart/P1310587.jpg
I think the costume is not fitting to qualify at all. Nice try though, it's tough to get someone or anyone to pose as Claymores as they do look difference from normal humans to some extent; eg: pointed years, weird eye colour etc.

MacenKrace

12-16-2007, 01:20 PM

Agasa is former #2 right?

Noelle

12-16-2007, 01:42 PM

Was at EOY 2007 at Expo, and this was the only Claymore cosplayer there. Woo!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/stifler-leonheart/P1310587.jpg

Whoa. The clothes don't exactly look nice, neither does the claymore, but hey... it's the thought that counts. ;)

Agasa is former #2 right?

Yes, she is.

MacenKrace

12-16-2007, 02:13 PM

Whoa. The clothes don't exactly look nice, neither does the claymore, but hey... it's the thought that counts. ;)

Yes, she is.

In that case I vote for her too

18fenrir

12-16-2007, 02:43 PM

Oh.. i didn't like Agasa from the first frame.. I'll vote Hilda..

@Noelle Agreed. The costume leaves more to be desired.. It's Clare's post-Pieta attire. The metal looks.. unreal, the strap looks flimsy But there are redeeming factors :) She is cosplaying Claymore. She isn't bad looking.

ps. forgot.. the claymore.. it looks ok i guess.

pss. forgot another thing.. do share more of such pictures and events with us Stifler.. :) thanks for this one!

Hynavian

12-16-2007, 04:56 PM

So it's
1. Hilda (3 votes) - Prezzy, SB, 18fenrir
2. Agasa (2 votes) - Noelle, Macenkrace

Any other voters? :p

SilentBuddhist

12-16-2007, 05:11 PM

Was at EOY 2007 at Expo, and this was the only Claymore cosplayer there. Woo!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/stifler-leonheart/P1310587.jpg
At least they tried...right!? :lol:
I think the costume is not fitting to qualify at all. Nice try though, it's tough to get someone or anyone to pose as Claymores as they do look difference from normal humans to some extent; eg: pointed years, weird eye colour etc.
Hmmm, too bad the sword and armour could have been better :p

Unless they can make contact lenses that can change eye colour through whatever means, electronic etc, the way the Claymores' eyes change can't be imitated. As for pointed ears...if you try to wear fake ones, everyone will know, so you have to be born with pointed ears to work it out :p It definitely wouldn't be easy by any means. I've seen worse cosplay >.<

Stifler

12-16-2007, 05:28 PM

Yeah...There was some guy cosplaying as Ash from Pokemon there. And there was a SpongeBob Squarepants.

I LOL.

SilentBuddhist

12-16-2007, 05:38 PM

Haha...silly people and their crazy and lousy cosplay >.<

Actually, I do see some good cosplay every now and then. It just depends on how much effort is put into the details, I guess. Take, for example, Auron (if you don't know him he's a playable character in FFX >.< Yes, I love the series.) Two different people set up cosplay as him. When you see them, I probably won't have to tell you which one is better :lol:

The actual Auron:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k57/_Sir_Auron_/YAHHOOOO.jpg

The cosplay:
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/Lunamaria_x01/Auron.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l216/FurorDraconis/DSCF0844.jpg

:lol: :lol: :lol: See what I mean?

Hmm, mentioning Auron made me change my av and banner >.<

Tensa Zangetsu

12-17-2007, 02:26 AM

SilentBuddhist

12-17-2007, 02:31 AM

Hello Claymore people-

1. I think the current topic has died...

2. I no longer remember either of the claymores we are voting for

3. I think I might consider joining the claymore rp somethime (I said I would but due to my lack of time.....but next week is christmas break sooo yea..)

4. have we already discussed what were doing for Christmas or is that too irrelevant for this thread?

Hi there...

1. Yeah...unless Prezzo and the others come back (they can't possibly still be having exams, can they?)

2. It's Agasa and Hilda...and it looks like it's Hilda week.

3. BTW, ghass kicked you out of AoR, and MA took your spot...

4. Hynavian wanted to make it a surprise...so no one will know until Christmas. That's the 24th for me, and I have mountain time...which is GMT -7.

EDIT: I checked the AoR RP. So just ignore what I said in #3.

Tensa Zangetsu

12-17-2007, 02:43 AM

seems like Hynavian is what keeps this thread still running.....what a busy body....

Noelle

12-17-2007, 02:50 AM

Hello!

Just to answer...
#1 - I'm working on a new topic. Patience is a virtue! x_x"

SilentBuddhist

12-17-2007, 02:50 AM

((Delusion starts))I should just take the role of Prezzo myself until hollywood shows up then I keep the job for two more weeks and he can be the janitor for the time being and then ONLY then will he get his title back((Delusion ends here))

>.>

Hynavian so far is the only one here who is an original 1MMCM ( I think that's the name) AND keeps the threads organized...It makes me happy there are people out there with so much time on their hands...It still runs, but there aren't a lot of threads that are THIS organized...in fact I think we're the only ones who ARE this organized...

Tensa Zangetsu

12-17-2007, 02:51 AM

You know...my history in the claymore thread dates pretty far back also >.>....

SilentBuddhist

12-17-2007, 02:54 AM

(...Been here since thread IX...)

I'll help Noelle set up a new topic...In other words, I'll help dig up our old graves >.<

Tensa Zangetsu

12-17-2007, 02:56 AM

(been here since thread I....)

Noelle

12-17-2007, 03:23 AM

-.- (... Only been here since two threads ago, lurked as a guest far longer than that >.>"...)

Alright, I don't know if this topic has been discussed before, and Silent's digging of our graves haven't revealed anything on this topic... as of yet. Ah, it won't hurt to discuss again anyway, no? ;)

Miata
Unstable, traumatized or just plain insane?

Some points to consider:
Your stand: Yes? No?
Back it up with examples.
Think about this: Miata has the intelligence and intellectual to protect Clarice (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/73/20/), obey her (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/73/10/), and express human fears (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/73/11/). Compare this with her fighting style. What do you think?
Also, think about this: Rado mentions Miata is an extraordinary talent that could aim for Number One here (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/68/08/). What do you think it means, exactly?

Note that the current No.1 & 2 of Clarice's generation are still Alicia and Beth, as shown in Databook 3.

Fun Fact:
The Mazda MX-5, also known as Miata (pronounced /miːˈɑːtə/) in North America and Roadster (pronounced [ɺ̠odosɯta]) in Japan, is a sports car built by Mazda in Hiroshima, Japan, since 1989. Its introduction was a significant development in the motor car industry that revived the roadster segment of sports cars.

Credits to Wikipedia again, and Silent for digging our graves... though he's not done yet. ;)

Tensa Zangetsu

12-17-2007, 03:30 AM

We had a similar discussion about ophellia sometime back (before you or Sb joined)....heh, I think I was the one who started the 'fun fact' thing....or not....

SilentBuddhist

12-17-2007, 03:42 AM

That was Ophelia. Now it's Miata! :devil:

I'd have to say that she is traumatized and unstable. She cares about her parents A LOT, and forces most this on Clarice *coughtitsuckingcough*, so she's apparently still at an age where she needs emotional support, and when she lost her parents and was turned into a Claymore, she was severely lacking in that department until Clarice appeared ("Hello, Clariiice..." Sorry, I had to put that in >.<). The instability is simply a "side-effect" of her trauma. She will certainly do whatever it takes to protect and obey Clarice, and she certainly shows fear, fear of making Clarice angry, fear of losing her "mama". Her fighting style is that of what Wikipedia calls a "Berserker", it's wild and mostly instinctive.

Her potential to be #1 could probably be the same as Teresa's: a simple happening of nature; although it's probably to a lesser extent.

Hynavian

12-17-2007, 06:18 AM

((Delusion starts))I should just take the role of Prezzo myself until hollywood shows up then I keep the job for two more weeks and he can be the janitor for the time being and then ONLY then will he get his title back((Delusion ends here))
My 8th sense tells me that something gone wrong. The gang disappeared after they met up with Prezzo for gambling and drinking. It's taking too long for their exams to end, don't you think so? :confused:
Hynavian so far is the only one here who is an original 1MMCM ( I think that's the name) AND keeps the threads organized...It makes me happy there are people out there with so much time on their hands...It still runs, but there aren't a lot of threads that are THIS organized...in fact I think we're the only ones who ARE this organized...
SB!!!! How can you forget the name of the group that you're in!
(been here since thread I....)
Yes, I know. I noticed you way back in thread I. ;)

****
It's better later than never....
It's Hilda's week!

pigpie

12-17-2007, 07:05 AM

Homicidal B i t c h. I am speaking about Miata.

Yay! My first time putting up an avatar.

18fenrir

12-17-2007, 02:12 PM

My 8th sense tells me that something gone wrong. The gang disappeared after they met up with Prezzo for gambling and drinking. It's taking too long for their exams to end, don't you think so? :confused:

SB!!!! How can you forget the name of the group that you're in!

I'm waiting for the Integrated Resort on our side of this world. Then i'll disappear! (j/k :P)

Eh? what is 1MMCM? One Manga M-something? Claymore Manga?

("Hello, Clariiice..." Sorry, I had to put that in >.<).

Would this happen to be any reference to Hannibal Lecter & Clarice S tarling? :P

-.- (... Only been here since two threads ago, lurked as a guest far longer than that >.>"...)

I think you were more well received than i was :x ahaha

Anyhow back to topic..

Miata? Unstable? Traumatized? Plain Insane? Yeap.. All three.

Her emotions are unstable causing her to act in the way where.. poor clarice had to breastfeed. She has basic intelligence to protect her "stand-in-mum", but she is also dumb enough to want to blow her cover in Rabona (wanting to take off her hood).

Her way of fighting is plain insane. Using hands to rip apart a yoma.. even the wilder claymores Ophelia had not wanted to use her hands. (i suspect they all think it's.. filthy. Clare proves it by hating the smell of yoma.. she tried to wash the smell off when Rubel commented that it comes from her.. inside her) She likes to get down and dirty in using hands i suppose. That's where i think she is slightly crazy.. They are yoma and they are the ones who are suppose to drive their hands finger first into your chest to rip you apart.. doing so the other way around seems.. for the lack of a better word.. insane.

As for number 1 wise, i think she has stronger yoki than Alicia/Beth but unless we see more of her talents (other than ripping apart yoma/AB below her level with her hands) we probably can't judge.

SilentBuddhist

12-17-2007, 02:13 PM

My 8th sense tells me that something gone wrong. The gang disappeared after they met up with Prezzo for gambling and drinking. It's taking too long for their exams to end, don't you think so? :confused:
...You know, it might be possible they bet on their computers and lost them :lol:

In the meantime, I call for the title of Prezzo Pro Tempore ! >.<
SB!!!! How can you forget the name of the group that you're in!
Don't blame that on me! I checked back and I had it right :lol: If there's anything to blame, it's my memory-killing disease >.<
It's better later than never....
It's Hilda's week!
Homicidal B i t c h. I am speaking about Miata.

Yay! My first time putting up an avatar.

Congrats pigpie :p I'm trying to find an av, but at the same time I want to keep Auron for awhile :lol: I'll search later on today.

Would this happen to be any reference to Hannibal Lecter & Clarice S tarling? :P
You got that right :lol: I love making references to just about anything.

I'll be back in about 3 hours time.

Alberio

12-17-2007, 09:24 PM

I'm waiting for the Integrated Resort on our side of this world. Then i'll disappear! (j/k :P)

Eh? what is 1MMCM? One Manga M-something? Claymore Manga?

If I remember right wood said Mafia. lol I'm not sure though, I'd have to go check. >_>

I've been saving up these last 20 or so chapters of Claymore for awhile so I'm restarting the series. And sorry for not contributing to Miata...but I don't think I know her. X_X

SilentBuddhist

12-17-2007, 09:27 PM

BB brought up that we were the Mafia at one time...1M is obviously OneManga, C is Claymore...and I hardly know the rest >.<

Alberio

12-17-2007, 09:34 PM

Why the hell am I the subordinate here?:lol: All 3 of us should share the top 3 slots...like the Mafia. lol
The Claymore 1Manga Mafia...cool.:devil:

Heh, just checked.:p

BB doesn't discuss like he did on the old OM forum unfortunatly, he posted in the old Claymore threads but I haven't seen him in the other series sect since then.

btw I'm on chap 52...so I'll be right back I guess. >_>

SilentBuddhist

12-17-2007, 09:37 PM

He shows up every now and then, but Nope has disappeared completely from here :lol:

That above quote made my day ^^

I checked the edit in your last post. Miata doesn't really appear until chapter 70-something, I think 72 :lol:

Noelle

12-18-2007, 04:26 AM

I'm waiting for the Integrated Resort on our side of this world. Then i'll disappear! (j/k :P)

I AGREE WITH YOU. 2008 Theme Park! Like, finally! Something other than Escape Theme Park here. >_>"

I think you were more well received than i was :x ahaha

:o

Hmm, so 1MMCM is OneManga M-something- Claymore Mafia? Or is it OneManga Mafia Claymore M-something-? :confused:

Hynavian

12-18-2007, 05:47 AM

BB brought up that we were the Mafia at one time...1M is obviously OneManga, C is Claymore...and I hardly know the rest >.<
SB, I'm strangling you now, for forgetting the name of the group. :devil:
1MMCM = One Manga Mafia Claymore Members

***
With regards to the topic, I'll be providing insane answers to an insane Miata question. :thumbup:

My stand is that Miata is insane more than traumatized.

When Rado mentioned that Miata had the potential to be number 1, he might mean that Miata is insane enough to challenge and tear Alicia apart should she challenge Alicia. As we know that Galatea+Miata=50% chance of defeating Agasa (who's an ex-#2), that shows that Miata is not powerful enough to defeat a #1. Hence, bringing into question the sanity of Rado to have come up with such a hypothesis.

Miata, in my opinion, does not appear to be traumatized as she has no worries as she can survive without a weapon, her sword. She can go survivor style with hands and tear everything apart if they're to stand in her way.

She's insecure as she constantly clings onto Clarice and she's afraid that Clarice will leave her. Hence, she tries what she can and obediently listens to Clarice. In my opinion, this is due to her insanity. Her insecurity is produced as a result of her insanity as she's crazy enough to treat Clarice as her mother, hence, seeking Clarice approval. Her insecurity would not be there if she did not meet Clarice and she's crazy enough to acknowledge Clarice as her mother.

:devil: Ok I'll stop here as I think my argument is heading nowhere.

MacenKrace

12-18-2007, 01:12 PM

#4 was always the insane member, just like Ophelia.

Noelle

12-18-2007, 01:24 PM

Heh, I don't recall Noel/Sophia being insane though. =X

MacenKrace

12-18-2007, 08:51 PM

Heh, I don't recall Noel/Sophia being insane though. =X

That's the exception from the rule book since it's Teressa's generation.

SilentBuddhist

12-18-2007, 09:43 PM

SB, I'm strangling you now, for forgetting the name of the group. :devil:
1MMCM = One Manga Mafia Claymore Members
No one ever told me, and you're strangling me for it? :lol: Well, now I know, so I won't forget it ;)

Every generation had its crazy Claymores, for one reason or another...#4 just happened to be the more frequent rank for them.

Alberio

12-19-2007, 01:03 AM

*puts a tag on SB that he chose for his symbol, happening to be the new #4* :D

lol So I'm caught up now.

And Hynavian it was plenty fine, as many points I agreed with.

When I compare her actions to her fighting style I'd say she is a mix between a trained warrior and a berserker, as she acts by instinct but still has somewhat of a form of fighting style aside from flinging onto an enemy and ripping them appart. I'd say its unstable as she is because she tends to get into a berserker mode and a fighter relying on both instinct and some skill, much like how she'd probably act different without Clarice.

Noelle

12-19-2007, 01:51 AM

*puts a tag on SB that he chose for his symbol, happening to be the new #4* :D

LOL. -congratulates Silent- :eban:!

She's insecure as she constantly clings onto Clarice and she's afraid that Clarice will leave her. Hence, she tries what she can and obediently listens to Clarice. In my opinion, this is due to her insanity. Her insecurity is produced as a result of her insanity as she's crazy enough to treat Clarice as her mother, hence, seeking Clarice approval. Her insecurity would not be there if she did not meet Clarice and she's crazy enough to acknowledge Clarice as her mother.

God, my head. :p

Oh wells. Here we go now. >.>"

I'll say that Miata is both unstable and traumatized, though not insane, but...

She has an unnatural obsession with her parents, and imposes this upon Clarice, going so far as to... well, you know what I mean. -cough-

Initially she fights like a berserker in battle, acting merely on instinct and using brute force to tear apart her opponents, but she has the conscience to throw her sword to protect Clarice, whom she somehow now considers as her mother. It leads me to think that she is more traumatized than unstable; would a mentally unstable Claymore like her have the mental capacity to know that Clarice - AKA her mummy - is in danger, and therein throw a sword to protect her?

Miata also expresses human fears that Clarice will hate her, again showing more trauma than instability. Imposing her parents' obsession on Clarice is the only sign of instability; she also seems to obey only Clarice, and lacks some sort of common sense. The reason why she didn't back down and team with Galatea even when Agasa appeared in the latest chapter is most certainly because Clarice didn't say anything. >.>"

Lastly, I personally feel that when Rado says she has the potential to aim for Number One, it generally means that Miata's total Yoki must be at least on Alicia's level, but I think he meant... an unawakened Alicia. Potential to aim for is different from already has the capability, I think. It means Miata can aim for the Number One slot, but if she wants it, she'll have to work hard... and I don't mean just the state of her mental health.

SilentBuddhist

12-19-2007, 02:06 AM

Just because I'm #4, it doesn't make me crazy :p

And yeah, it was like Priscilla before she awakened, through Irene's words, she had latent potential, and when she awakened, it was as if that potential was unleashed. Having potential and being able to use it are two different things.

Noelle

12-19-2007, 03:03 AM

Just because I'm #4, it doesn't make me crazy :p

Oh, but you're not in Teresa's generation. Noel/Sophia are the exceptions from the rule book, according to Macen. :p Soon...

And yeah, it was like Priscilla before she awakened, through Irene's words, she had latent potential, and when she awakened, it was as if that potential was unleashed. Having potential and being able to use it are two different things.

Well, there's controversy over this one. Brings up some familiar things...

Rubel [was it him?] mentioned that, Awakening is the full unleashing of a Claymore's potential . Yet, Riful says that half-Awakened Claymores can continue to train, and develop their potential, so that when they finally Awaken, [i]they will be stronger than if they Awakened now.

But if Awakening was the complete unleashing of a Claymore's potential, then what's this about half-Awakened Claymores being able to increase their potential so they can become stronger Awakened?

MacenKrace

12-19-2007, 09:21 AM

Oh, but you're not in Teresa's generation. Noel/Sophia are the exceptions from the rule book, according to Macen. :p Soon...

Well, there's controversy over this one. Brings up some familiar things...

Rubel [was it him?] mentioned that, Awakening is the full unleashing of a Claymore's potential . Yet, Riful says that half-Awakened Claymores can continue to train, and develop their potential, so that when they finally Awaken, [i]they will be stronger than if they Awakened now.

But if Awakening was the complete unleashing of a Claymore's potential, then what's this about half-Awakened Claymores being able to increase their potential so they can become stronger Awakened?

Training abilities skills etc... this is the level of a Claymore's power. Youki control is also something you must have.

Hynavian

12-20-2007, 01:26 AM

I think half awakening is something like allowing one to further studies and keep upgrading oneself while awakening is like graduating from school into the work force.

:eban:

Btw, Macen, which is your favourite Claymore?

Noelle

12-20-2007, 09:28 AM

Oh, okay.

I'm running out of topic ideas already. The ones I can think of are getting lamer and lamer, or have already been discussed. >_>" Silent! Help!! :eek:

In any case... while I wait for Silent's aid... has this been discussed before? Ah well. ;)

YOMA
Mere cannon fodder or future chess piece?

Some points to consider:

Your stand: Cannon fodder, or something more than that?
Back it up with evidence.
Think about this: In the Witch’s Maw arc (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/42/06/), Yoma worked in accordance with each other to take down Clare, but unfortunately [or fortunately] failed. Any thoughts?

Fun facts:
While a Yoma/Awakened Being feeds on human guts…
The Kumiho ["nine-tailed fox"] must eat livers. This was because the liver contained the energy of a human, meaning that it processes the food and gives energy, thus making it the container of the working force/life of a human.

Wikipedia again.
The full article on the Kumiho can be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumiho).

MacenKrace

12-20-2007, 09:32 AM

My favorite Claymore is Clarice. She has beautiful silver eyes and brown hair... and she's so cute that you could just eat her...

:)) just kidding. My favorite Claymore is Noelle. Pure brute strength.

18fenrir

12-20-2007, 05:07 PM

Yoma = Cannon Fodder. It seems the focus is now on Awakened Beings. Infinite cooler with customisable limbs and extendable body parts, they are the thing of the future!

But seriously now, all normal yoma have been proven to be far inferior than the weakest claymore (exception.. Clarice but she doesn't qualify as a successful claymore). The only time they proved to be a threat was when organised but even then they are the "hired muscle"

SilentBuddhist

12-20-2007, 10:44 PM

My favorite Claymore is Miria for her smarts and sexy way of sitting with her legs crossed >.<

Agreed...yoma were cannon fodder and a very short focus; ever since volume 4 awakened beings like Priscilla instantly took the spotlight. They are so instinctive that they are only a threat when commanded and organized by a stronger force, like Riful or whoever else.

18fenrir

12-21-2007, 12:33 AM

mmm.. what's all this favourite warrior claymore talk? ;) A popularity contest? :D i'd have to think it through on my fav.. >.<

But on a second thought, it's close to the end of the week.. a voting is in order? i wonder who has been done or who hasn't.

SilentBuddhist

12-21-2007, 12:41 AM

I say we have another Top Model Awards Contest! Since Prezzo has no influence this time around :devil:

Noelle

12-21-2007, 01:12 AM

LOL. :eban:

I vote Galatea! -rants on and on and on-

Oh well, she's my favorite, too. -continues ranting- :thumbup:

SilentBuddhist

12-21-2007, 01:16 AM

I vote Miria, darn it >.<

*begins his own rant*

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/wareraxu/milia02330efbvs5.jpg

:lol:

Noelle

12-21-2007, 01:20 AM

-kills Silent-

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/sn0wiienoelle/Galatea11.jpg

3D Image galore! :p

SilentBuddhist

12-21-2007, 01:24 AM

Nuuuuuuuu~~

The only counterattack I can find so far >.<

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/Py-tee-mee/Forum%20stuff/MiriaandOphelia.jpg

You haven't seen the last of me yet :lol: :eban: :lol:

Noelle

12-21-2007, 01:27 AM

Eh, I thought you were dead already. :p

Counter-counter attack! [since Silent decided to counter]

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/sn0wiienoelle/GalateaxFlora.jpg

Eheheheh. >.>"

SilentBuddhist

12-21-2007, 01:29 AM

Ahahahahaha ~

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/Py-tee-mee/Forum%20stuff/miriaandhilda.jpg

Erm, technically we're spamming right now >.< Let's stop, so the mods don't jump on us :p

Alberio

12-21-2007, 01:32 AM

lol I suppose you could keep editing your old posts even though it'd get annoying after a bit probably, yet funny, and discuss the modeling in following posts.

I can't decide who to support, even out of those two. >_>

SilentBuddhist

12-21-2007, 01:34 AM

Choose anyone, that's basically it :lol: Heck, last time we could have voted for the handlers, but who would do that XD

Alberio

12-21-2007, 01:36 AM

I dunno that guy with the top hat is pretty hot.~ Not to sound actually gay there. >_>

Its choosing between the girls, so many x_x, thats the problem for me, so I'll post a pic in due time.

Noelle

12-21-2007, 01:49 AM

Erm, technically we're spamming right now >.< Let's stop, so the mods don't jump on us :p

Yessir! :devil:

Choose anyone, that's basically it :lol: Heck, last time we could have voted for the handlers, but who would do that XD

Hey, maybe I would! Split my votes between Galatea and Rubel! ;)

I dunno that guy with the top hat is pretty hot.~

Rubel...? :lol:

SilentBuddhist

12-21-2007, 01:57 AM

You really want me to split them? Okay then :lol:

Votes so Far:

1.) Miria: 1

2.) Galatea/Rubel: 0.5

My queen is winning http://thmg.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Schoen/th_prinnydance24pf.gif
--------------------

*ahem* I was kidding...ignore that >.<

Noelle

12-21-2007, 02:03 AM

-kills Silent again-

NOOOO! :lol: Galatea! :(

SilentBuddhist

12-21-2007, 02:05 AM

*comes back to life*

I left the stove on XD

Al left, I think...I should check, just because I want him to vote >.<

Nevermind, He's here :lol:

18fenrir

12-21-2007, 02:34 AM

*stares at all the photos.. @_@

by any chance would there be a Clare rally anytime? But i'll pick Galatea for now.. i'm a fickled person.. whoever looks better gets my vote :D Galatea in 3D is AWESOME! I MUST HAVE IT!

Noelle

12-21-2007, 02:47 AM

*comes back to life*

-stares- :eek:

Galatea in 3D is AWESOME! I MUST HAVE IT!

MUAHAHAHA. :lol:

Hynavian

12-21-2007, 05:17 AM

I vote for Galatea! :p

She's the sexiest nun in anime history.

Stifler

12-21-2007, 11:46 PM

Galatea FTW! Little Miss Claymore can own your heart anytime.

SilentBuddhist

12-21-2007, 11:52 PM

:eek:

How could you!! T_T

Darn it...my queen is losing :(

Alberio

12-21-2007, 11:54 PM

:lol: lmao @Hynavian's post.

I'm STILL deciding. >.< And I'm even more tempted to post some pics of Clare when she was taking the suppresant pills and she met Galk on the rooftops in Rabona.

I guess Miria since her new look is great and we haven't seen much of Galatea. >_>

SilentBuddhist

12-21-2007, 11:57 PM

Miria would be even sexier...

18fenrir

12-22-2007, 02:14 AM

Miria would be even sexier...

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc174/BaalChaamon/Minitokyo_Anime_Wallpapers_Claymore.jpg

I.. had to post this in response for these two. ;) Forgive me!!

SilentBuddhist

12-22-2007, 02:16 AM

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc174/BaalChaamon/Minitokyo_Anime_Wallpapers_Claymore.jpg

I.. had to post this in response for these two. ;) Forgive me!!
I...I don't know what to say...but that's Teresa and Galatea, sheesh :lol:

*gets bloody nose*

*runs to get tissue*

Wait a sec...you're just trying to get more people to vote for Galatea, darn it >.<

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc104/skyflame88/740274637_1842871563__1024x768.jpg

...That should balance it out a little :lol:

Excel-Kleinwald

12-22-2007, 02:34 AM

*peer*

Ahem. You people are so shallow... and need better pictures...

SilentBuddhist

12-22-2007, 02:36 AM

It's photobucket...I'll look at Nakenashi Wisdom later...they tend to have better pictures

18fenrir

12-22-2007, 02:38 AM

hehe who huh wha? naa i'd admit, i'm a sucker for anime girls. They're cutex1000 and yep i agree.. better pictures are needed. oh and while browsing.. i finally knew.. Irene's Flash Sword...

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2504/irene1sf3.jpg
That.. explains soo.. much. (inclusive of Ears ;))

Silver Haired Lion King's Part time Job

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb81/chibamonster/LionKingSuperb.jpg http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5963/supta9.jpg

SilentBuddhist

12-22-2007, 02:42 AM

L-freaking-ol :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh oh oh! Speaking of Nakenashi, look at this:
http://nakenashi.net/claymore/miata_claris01.jpg

Duath

12-22-2007, 02:43 AM

Oooooh, so difficult!

But, I have to go with Miria

Hynavian

12-22-2007, 02:57 AM

L-freaking-ol :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh oh oh! Speaking of Nakenashi, look at this:
http://nakenashi.net/claymore/miata_claris01.jpg

Is the one holding the Claymore at the background Clarice? She's again not being useful at all! Whats with staring at her sword when her comrade is busy fighting! :lol:

***

My stand is that Yomas are mere canon folders in the first place. They can be used as part of a bigger plan like chess pieces but they're always the front line soldiers that are dispensable anytime.

In my opinion, even the last ranker, Clare (since day 1), was able to eliminate Yomas quite easily. Yomas might be more superior than humans but they're helpless when faced a 1 vs 1 battle with a Claymore (Clarice is an exception). This proved that Yomas are weak and are just canon folders.

Coming to them being chess pieces of a bigger plan, they play the part of those lousy footman where their death won't mean much to the king.

There's hope for the Yomas! If they can suddenly mutate and become the same or stronger than Awakened Beings. :p Other than that, they will stay weak and serve as canon folders regardless of where they are.

SilentBuddhist

12-22-2007, 03:04 AM

Fenrir...your Rigardo pics made me laugh...again :D
L-freaking-ol :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now we need a Fedex flier with the slogan "Swift and Superb Service!!"

Hynavian

12-22-2007, 03:24 AM

Coming back to the Rigardo pictures, it reminds me of my favourite bootleg Rigardo below. :lol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Manga/Claymore__in_ur_Pieta__by_Bootleg.jpg

18fenrir

12-22-2007, 03:53 AM

Coming back to the Rigardo pictures, it reminds me of my favourite bootleg Rigardo below. :lol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/HynAvian/Manga/Claymore__in_ur_Pieta__by_Bootleg.jpg

hurhurhur :lol::thumbup:

And now i can't resist posting this too >.<

http://www.deviantart.com/download/68002684/A_Claymore_Kinda_Halloween_by_Bootleg.gif

Stifler

12-22-2007, 05:01 AM

ROFL!

Its peanut butter jelly time....Its peanut butter jelly time....

I still can't believe Deneve actually allowed Helen to do that to her.

Fallgore

12-22-2007, 05:13 AM

Hey I'm also new to the site and I finished watching the entire first season of Claymore within about 48 hours and I think it's become my favorite Anime.

I'm a little confused about one major thing:

In the manga, the 7 faked their death and survived. In the television series, #8die to the Lion (who was not even in the manga?) and #9 die to Clare?

So if there is a 2nd Season coming out, what will happen? I mean, they kind of went off subject introducing the Silver Lion and allowing Clare to become the strongest Abyss creature in the series (tecnically).. So what'll they do to go back on track in the manga? It's just really a little odd to me because I hear there will be a 2nd season, however, it seems as though there just not might one.. Considering all that happened.

Well any clarification would be nice, and I can't wait until the next manga comes out! This is so much better than Naruto.

-Fallgore

SilentBuddhist

12-22-2007, 05:17 AM

Well, Stifler answered it in your thread, I believe...

Anyway, here's the answers to your questions.

1: No news on a second session yet...At least, none that I know of. Besides, I would rather they just do a remake since they conveniently screwed up the Northern Battle arc.

2: Look above. Here's to a remake instead of a continuation. Who knows what will happen, since they had Clare defeat Priss and had her hook back up with Raki, may he die a horrible death.

3: Once a month. Usually within the first week of the month.

There. Now for other questions, post in the main Claymore thread. We are all a happy bunch there. :D
Okay, I'll go to bed now...

Oh, Fallgore, you should vote for a Claymore you really like XD We're running Top Model Awards right now, and they won't end until Sunday.

Noelle

12-22-2007, 12:47 PM

Man, I just missed an image war by knocking myself out the whole afternoon! -grumbles- :mad:

hurhurhur :lol::thumbup:

And now i can't resist posting this too >.<

http://www.deviantart.com/download/68002684/A_Claymore_Kinda_Halloween_by_Bootleg.gif

HALLOWEEN'S OVER. NOW IT'S CHRISTMAS. :devil:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/sn0wiienoelle/AClaymore-KindaX-mas.jpg

Now, did I already mention I vote for Galatea? :p

SilentBuddhist

12-23-2007, 01:45 AM

Fenrir, Noelle, they're both amusing in they're own way >.< Unfortunately, I don't have anything at the moment...hey wait, yeah I do! :lol:

They're hollywoodlou's (aka Prezzo's) translated comic strips. If I remember right, they're from the Claymore databooks. He posted them on an older thread, VIII I think. In other words, I'm just gonna dig up some old graves one at a time :lol:

Technically this is the fourth page, but I'm having trouble loading the first, so I'll start from the last and end with the first, one post at a time :D
http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/7594ab52613f404cc2cf7f6e0f3e41bd6g.jpg

Sorry for the tiny text, it can't be helped.

Tensa Zangetsu

12-23-2007, 02:01 AM

My stand is that Yomas are mere canon folders in the first place. They can be used as part of a bigger plan like chess pieces but they're always the front line soldiers that are dispensable anytime.

In my opinion, even the last ranker, Clare (since day 1), was able to eliminate Yomas quite easily. Yomas might be more superior than humans but they're helpless when faced a 1 vs 1 battle with a Claymore (Clarice is an exception). This proved that Yomas are weak and are just canon folders.

Coming to them being chess pieces of a bigger plan, they play the part of those lousy footman where their death won't mean much to the king.

There's hope for the Yomas! If they can suddenly mutate and become the same or stronger than Awakened Beings. :p Other than that, they will stay weak and serve as canon folders regardless of where they are.

If the Claymore manga doesn't end after the priscilla arc (meaning after Clare kills prissy and Isely) then maybe in the 2nd arc a yoma is the main villain. Maybe some kind of yoma king that is known as 'the original yoma' or the first ever yoma that gave birth to all the others is planning to take over the world and clare and the gang have to destroy the origin of the yoma's to end this fight for humanity.........meh, probably a stupid idea

A manga as great as claymore....there is a high possibility there wont be a second arc...

oh, and that Rigardo pic is hilarious XDDDD

SilentBuddhist

12-23-2007, 02:34 AM

If the Claymore manga doesn't end after the priscilla arc (meaning after Clare kills prissy and Isely) then maybe in the 2nd arc a yoma is the main villain. Maybe some kind of yoma king that is known as 'the original yoma' or the first ever yoma that gave birth to all the others is planning to take over the world and clare and the gang have to destroy the origin of the yoma's to end this fight for humanity.........meh, probably a stupid idea

A manga as great as claymore....there is a high possibility there wont be a second arc...

oh, and that Rigardo pic is hilarious XDDDD
Yeah, I agree with you on that. How often does a sequel do good to a series? Not very often. Once the Claymore manga ends, that's it. I hope it lasts a really long time, but not so long that it begins to get dragged out.

But then again, I don't think it would hurt to add on to the anime, as long as Madhouse doesn't run it and try something "original".

Once the series is over, it's over. No need to drag it on like Square Enix did with FFVII :D

Okay...enough my ramblings >.<

Seraphiel

12-23-2007, 05:16 AM

pardon me for my ignorance, but i was just wondering, when will the next claymore chapter be released ?
thank you

18fenrir

12-23-2007, 05:17 AM

If the Claymore manga doesn't end after the priscilla arc (meaning after Clare kills prissy and Isely) then maybe in the 2nd arc a yoma is the main villain. Maybe some kind of yoma king that is known as 'the original yoma' or the first ever yoma that gave birth to all the others is planning to take over the world and clare and the gang have to destroy the origin of the yoma's to end this fight for humanity.........meh, probably a stupid idea

A manga as great as claymore....there is a high possibility there wont be a second arc...

Yeah, I agree with you on that. How often does a sequel do good to a series? Not very often. Once the Claymore manga ends, that's it. I hope it lasts a really long time, but not so long that it begins to get dragged out.

But then again, I don't think it would hurt to add on to the anime, as long as Madhouse doesn't run it and try something "original".

Once the series is over, it's over. No need to drag it on like Square Enix did with FFVII :D

Okay...enough my ramblings >.<

Actually a sequel is better than nothing. I'd rather watch a crappy sequel than theorize on what could have been or couldn't have been or write out fan fics on what i wish would have happened. (raki dies horribly ! :lol:) Of course having a crappy sequel would turn new viewers or old skoolers away but it's all in the eyes of the beholder :o i'd still support old clare as long as she isn't .. raki-personified..