Full metal alchemist 5

[FMAMA86]

hey I noticed the other thread is closed so hopefully there is not another i missed(i looked) by the way i am new here (waves nervously)
so Where are the fma fans?;)
and new chapter soon right? dec.12? i heard.
waiting for that last chapter killed me that is all i am saying.
please don't be mean or hit me jk xD.

[FMAMA86]

hiya everyone,
who's ready for the new chapter wednesday for scans tues for translations.
Im wondering what hoho is up to? im really curious about that.
and how it will all come together with al and ed/winry.
what do you guys think?
lets go we got 1 more day for trans 2 more days for scans heh I rhymed awesome xD.

[ibn]

i'm looking forward to it. hopefully it won't be cut down like the last chapter, it was too short for FMA standards.

[Pansori]

The last few chapters have been relatively short. But the more chapters that come out, the closer to the end I feel like it's getting. Everything is starting to come together. Hopefully we'll get more discussion going once the chapter is out in a few days. :)

[Nickmogo]

Yeah we've pretty much discussed everything that is FMA into the ground, we need new information before we can get going again!

[deathbeard]

How do you find out when the chapter is due?

[Pansori]

It's a sense that one has...:ninja:

Or maybe it's just that it always comes out around the 12th. :lol:

Here's some nice color previews to hold us over for the real thing:

http://gangan.square-enix.co.jp/lineup/up_image/200712121_b.jpg

http://gangan.square-enix.co.jp/lineup/up_image/200712128_b.jpg

I read the chapter is called "The Seven Sins".

[ghassassin]

I dont even remember what happened in the last chapter. Only some faint memories of Ed dying, Kimbley searching for something (which I forgot), Pride appearing out of somewhere, the decoding of Xing's scripts or whatever it was....and ......and.....umm....thats all. 1 month is too long of a time. I've to read the whole thing again.

[Syolen]

To know when the next chapter comes out, you need the Force to be with you, young padawan. :p

Nah, seriously, it's usually written in the margin of the chapter. Even if it's in Japanese, when you see 11-12 one month and 12-12 the following one, you guess it's the release date. ;)

So yes, it should be out tomorrow and I definately can't wait, because we've got to see what Kimbley's up to, what Hohenheim's up to, how Mustang, Armstrong and co. are doing in Central, etc, etc.

[AshleyElric]

OMGOSH i havent been on here in forever! HI GUYS!

Tombow is working on a spoiler summary right now!
(srry i dont know how to do the spoiler thing... (god im such a newb) but heres the link)

http://www.fullmetal-alchemist.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=11946&view=findpost&p=605626

1 comment: this chapter is gunna be good o.o

edit: ok... she finished...

O M F G .. ill brb... i need to go run around the house a billion times...

[Syolen]

OMG ! So much happens in this chapter ! :eek:
Can't wait for it... Definately can't wait for it... (How am I supposed to concentrate on my biochemistry exam NOW ??? I just CAN'T. WAIT.)

[Nickmogo]

Wow sounds like an awesome chapter!
must...focus..on...finals....don't think about FMA

[FMAMA86]

OMG this is killing me I can't wait either lol
it sounds like something interesting hmmm
:D I have to concentrate for work tomorrow this is going to be really hard :lol:
awesome trans thanks you rock ;)
love those there really hard to resist heh.

[Pansori]

OMGOMGOMGOMG!!!! I screamed when I saw ROSE!!!WTH, ROSE!!!! Don't hook up with ED!!!!:mad:

EDIT: LOL, just finished reading the spoilers and OMGOMGOMG.... it must come out NOW!!!

[FMAMA86]

im with pansori this is killing me what's going on lol im getting impatient xDD.
I want to know what is happening with hoho if you get me.

[ghassassin]

I havent read the spoilers yet. So I am safe from that impatience.....though I have a different kind of anxiety....
...what the heck are you talking about????? T_T

[FMAMA86]

xDDD it's okay ghassassin im feeling like that still even with reading them ;)
I wish i could say you know but i don't want to ruin it for ya
if you go to the page before this there are spoiler summeries.
till then ill go crazy :cookies: hiromu she's a genius who makes a month seem like eternity xD.

[stagemystic]

Being good... not reading the spoilers...
being good... not reading the spoilers...

(What are they all talking about?)

being good... not reading the spoilers...

(It sounds like a good chapter... I really want to know... )

being good... not reading the spoilers...

(Temptation rises... )

being good... not reading ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!

(Cursor wavers over Spoiler button... must... not... click...
takes deep breath... temptation waning... returns to mantra... )

Being good... not reading the spoilers...
being good... not reading the spoilers...

(I wonder what happens to Scar... Temptation rising... )

[FMAMA86]

i give you credit I can't just not read them you know
it's so tempting maybe i should try a mantra lol.
I want to find out for sure what's going on
sits impatienly :ninja: heh.

[Syolen]

I tried to resist. I really did. My resolve lasted... what, 10 seconds ? I mean, on one hand, biochem. On the other one, awesomeness raised to an art form (aka FMA). Do you call that a choice ???
Just click the little Spoiler button. You know you want to :p

And I totally agree with you Pansori ! I hope Arakawa won't do that !

Just like they did in the anime... --' They almost paired them together at the end. WTH ?
But since Falman mentioned the riots in Lior, I guess Rose had to appear again, sooner or later. But hey, maybe it's just for this chapter !

[Lainemaa]

Gah! Had to stop reading the thread after page one. See you when the chapter's ready.

[xingese_alchemist]

Edit: Wow. way to remember that Japan's already 12/12. >_>

I'm at a loss as to what to expect for the coming chapter. The past chapters are still reeling in my mind. And with college apps to do, I haven't really read them in depth as I have previously >_>

And as tempting as those spoiler tags and links look, I'll pass for now.

[FMAMA86]

heh im with syolen on this one
i can't wait come on I just want to go to work and find out what's going on ^^D hopefully this day won't go slow.
how do you hide spoilers? if you want to mention things but not blow it for the ones who have will power(unlike me :o)

[Pansori]

Spoiler tag is : [ spoiler]put your message here[/ spoiler] without any spaces between the brackets and the word 'spoiler'.

[stagemystic]

Nooooooooo... It's not up yet!
I was so looking forward to coming home from work and finding that new chapter waiting...

siiiiiigh... I've been avoiding those spoilers but I don't know how long I can last... O_o

[FMAMA86]

awesomeness thanks pansori
yeah i have been waiting all day to get home from work to see if the new chap. is up yet :ninja: ill be waiting heh.

[Duath]

Nooooooooo... It's not up yet!
I was so looking forward to coming home from work and finding that new chapter waiting...

siiiiiigh... I've been avoiding those spoilers but I don't know how long I can last... O_o

Meee tooo, the suspense is KILLING me!

[FMAMA86]

heh
isn't it suppose to come out today it says the 12th on the last page of ch.77 hmm sorry im impatient&curious too xDD im ready for the new chapter*sigh*;)

[Syolen]

Hopefully it means that the chapter's reeeeeally long, since we don't even have the RAW yet... Hopefully....

CAN'T. WAIT.

[FMAMA86]

yeah that's the one thing i hope that means is that is longer cause i hate when it's shorter grrr lol
yeah im really suprised even about the raw :eek:not being out.

[digitalanarch]

Getting down to the line with this series and another favorite of mine (Inuyasha). Thus far neither are disappointing. I am biting my nails with each release. :P Just got back on this forum been busy with school and job search. Hopefully we can laugh and cry over the fates ;).

[Syolen]

Hopefully we can laugh and cry over the fates ;).

Oh yes we will, don't worry about that. :D The discussion after chapter 76 came out was... epic.

Now where the h*** is the RAW ???

[FMAMA86]

hey
yeah the break in the middle i just wait patiently but when it comes down to a couple days i get anxious xDD
i still can't believe there is no raw at least being the 13th.
hopefully as said earlier that it's longer then lol equivilent exchange hm?:thumbup:

Oh yes we will, don't worry about that. :D The discussion after chapter 76 came out was... epic.

Now where the h*** is the RAW ???

hopefully we will laugh you know and not cry but i have a feeling there will be some tears.

im getting so anxious why is the raw not even out yet?
it's driving me crazy heh im okay(waits like a ninja on a tree but plays with thumbs)

[goldeneyedvampire]

I really hope its a long chapter, since even the raws didn't come out yet. I want to know what happens next sooo bad!!!

[FMAMA86]

I really hope its a long chapter, since even the raws didn't come out yet. I want to know what happens next sooo bad!!!

me too i just hope that's why it's taking so long ^^).
come on raw.

[goldeneyedvampire]

me too i just hope that's why it's taking so long ^^).
come on raw.
Yeah, I hope the mangaka is not sick or something. When the mangaka of D.Gray-Man got sick it took a really long time for a new chapter to come out and those chapters arent even that long.

[Pansori]

Oh yes we will, don't worry about that. :D The discussion after chapter 76 came out was... epic.

Now where the h*** is the RAW ???

Welcome back, Digitalanarch!

This week is going to be so awesome. My top 3 mangas, Naruto, Bleach and FMA have these pivotal moments coming up! Well, Bleach is a oneshot, but it has development!:D I wonder if it's because it's the end of the year, and they're trying to get in as many goodies as possible?

[flame ninja]

it better be worth the long wait or at least have more chapters than the last 1

[digitalanarch]

Hiya Pan and ty. For sure with the end of the year stuff. Leaving us twisting and begging for more. :)

[Syolen]

Yeah, hopefully we won't get something along the lines of "I leave you with the biggest, meaniest and nastiest cliffhanger ever, merry Christmas !", though.

[Nickmogo]

Well we weren't gonna get one until you jinxed it Syolen, now we'll get that for sure!

nice going =p

[Syolen]

Well we weren't gonna get one until you jinxed it Syolen, now we'll get that for sure!

nice going =p


What can I say execpt : :p ? :D

Come on, it can't be worse than chapter 76 anyway (can it ? :eek: ).

[xingese_alchemist]

hm... aren't the weekly raws shipped to someone before they appear on the net or something like that? so maybe the delivery got delayed? >_>

ahhhh i cant take it. i finally gave in to spoilers and now... i can't wait for the raw T____T

[FMAMA86]

What can I say execpt : :p ? :D

Come on, it can't be worse than chapter 76 anyway (can it ? :eek: ).

xDD syolen and the ginx comment made me giggle lol.
hopefully that won't happen but hiromu is a genius when it comes to cliffhangers(gets nervous)so i guess we will have hope and pray lol.
i really hope it comes out soon im growing so anxious.

[Syolen]

Spoilers are fun but I want the real thing....

And
This chapter is set 10 days after 77 ? And Ed's been missing for all this time ? Where did the chimeras take him ? :eek: That town nearby where Kimbley was when Scar wounded him ?
I want Edo-kun to be okay... *worries*

And still no RAW. Woe. *pouts*

[Keira Maboroshi]

I seriously hope the next chapter comes out soon ;~;, FMA is my most favoritist manga D': (The anime would be my favorite anime but it has a horrible ending >_>)

I'm resisting from the spoilers for now, but who knows, in ten minutes...

[FMAMA86]

Spoilers are fun but I want the real thing....

And
This chapter is set 10 days after 77 ? And Ed's been missing for all this time ? Where did the chimeras take him ? :eek: That town nearby where Kimbley was when Scar wounded him ?
I want Edo-kun to be okay... *worries*

And still no RAW. Woe. *pouts*

(gasp) i didn't think about that
ahhh spoiler is showing me what i typed why is that? isn't it suppose to hide it?

[flame ninja]

Come on, it can't be worse than chapter 76 anyway (can it ? :eek: ).

dont say that it cant cuz it might as well get even worse than that -_-

and besides then we will all probably be dead by cliffies of doom if that happens before januarys chapter........which would REALLY suck -_- -_-

[Keira Maboroshi]

I really hope it's not one of those boring chapters that are just them talking about things that already happened and walking places (I hatses those chappies >:<)

[Syolen]

dont say that it cant cuz it might as well get even worse than that -_-

and besides then we will all probably be dead by cliffies of doom if that happens before januarys chapter........which would REALLY suck -_- -_-

Don't say that ! I don't even want to imagine it could happen ! **is still worried about Edo-kun**


(Whow... At this rate, we'll have filled the 20 pages of this thread before the chapter even comes out. Not that I complain about it, mind you.)

[deathbeard]

Hmmm, so does this mean that the new chapter aint coming out?

[flame ninja]

dont worry about edo-kun hes the main character after all right soooo he cant die........r-right ^_^'''

so does ANYONE know when the new chapter will come out the suspense is starting to kill me big time....

[Syolen]

Hmmm, so does this mean that the new chapter aint coming out?

The chapter has been released in Japan, but we can't find it anywhere on the internet.


@ Flame ninja : I know he can't die (yet ?), but still...


What's the equivalent exchange for a new FMA chapter, by the way ? Just wondering...

[Nickmogo]

The equivalent exchange is all the time wasted browsing the internet looking for translations I guess

[FMAMA86]

im getting anxious and worried about it i keep checking manga helpers/fma discussion boards/gangan site too) idk japanese tho but nothing so far.
if it's in japan where is it all of a sudden?:eek:just getting impatient heh.
thinks of equivilent exchange.

[Syolen]

The equivalent exchange is all the time wasted browsing the internet looking for translations I guess

Does the Truth know that I should be studying for my exams instead (and I know I'm not the only one) ? Finding the chapter when I come back from my genetics exam tomorrow would be a great reward... *pleading eyes*

[Nickmogo]

hehe

<---- done with exams!

It would be a nice reward though, it'll only be there if you get an A

[Syolen]

hehe

<---- done with exams!

It would be a nice reward though, it'll only be there if you get an A

I did in the mid-session exams, does that count ? :D

And you're done ? Not fair....

(And isn't this a bit off-topic ? :p)

[Pansori]

Tomorrow the Jumps should be available, so it's the big upload day. I'm hoping that we'll see FMA snuck in there as well... Maybe we're stressing because we got the spoilers so early??? I've decided that if it's not up by Sat., then I'll be worried! :D

Oh, and you guys are way behind! I'm done with exams, have grades available and basking in the luxury of a month long vacation. XD

[Nickmogo]

(And isn't this a bit off-topic ? :p)

7 pages in the FMA discussion thread of which 0 pages are FMA discussion? off-topic? naaah =p

[FMAMA86]

just checked manga helpers they got the raw downloads ^^DD
finally at least that.
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=648014

[FMAMA86]

translation is also is progress :0
check it out .
http://www.fullmetal-alchemist.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11952&st=0#entry605940

[flame ninja]

I know he can't die (yet ?), but still...

yea i know....i just hope it dosent end as bad as the series and movie ended......:mad:

[Pansori]

Why do you think the series/movie ended badly? I thought it was one of the best endings.

[Syolen]

I agree with Pansori. Both endings were angsty and sad, one heartbreak after another, but they made sense.

[Duath]

Why do you think the series/movie ended badly? I thought it was one of the best endings.


It made sense and was really good, though I had REALLY hoped that they would stay in Amestris, or at least have taken Winry with them. I mean, poor girl, she just got shunned!

[stagemystic]

I agree about Winry, Duath, but I'm sure they'll meet again... ^_^

I have to say I often like Manga vs Anime versions of a story for different reasons. What's the fun in reading a manga or watching an anime if it's just a scene by scene recreation of it's counterpart?

In fact one of the things I like about manga/anime is the way even the original creators want to tell their stories different ways...

[Pansori]

...or at least have taken Winry with them. I mean, poor girl, she just got shunned!

Yeah, that's probably my one major complaint about the ending, was what they did with Winry. I thought it was anticlimactic and almost left unfinished. But everything else, especially them not staying in their world, fit the storyline perfectly ( as sad as it was).

Arakawa has proven herself to be a fine writer, though. I don't think she'll leave any loose strings with the ending. Which makes me sad to think about, because the ending is so near. But I got to thinking about it...

If it's true that she plans on stopping at 100, and we're on chp. 78, and a chapter comes out once a month, we still have a little less than 2 years left.

But it feels like the end is so much nearer!!! :(

[Syolen]

That's right, a fluffy fairy-tale ending wouldn't have been realistic. But poor Winry... :(

(BUT that's where the fanfiction writers come in, hehe)

The end does feel near, but there are still so many loose stings ! Arakawa will need quite a few chapters to solve eveything...
There is :

- Ed and Al's bodies
- Homonculi and Father
- the Amestrian governement
- the war with the all of their neighbours
- Mustang's goal
- his and his team's fate (Hawkeye say the could be put on trial if the country turned into a real democracy)
- Hohenheim (he could be the one to defeat Father, and then there's his relationship with his sons, too)
- Izumi and Sig (Hoho could have told them a few things when he met them, a few chapters ago, don't you think ?)
- ... I'm probably forgetting some other things...

See ? Arakawa could definately need twenty or so more chapters to tie it all up.

[Keira Maboroshi]

I actually think that the ending was bad in the anime :( I mean, I don't mind sad endings, but it had almost no foreshadowing Ed is just like, "Oh, well, after I finally got my goal of coming back, I've decided I'm going back, bye Al!" and left >_>

[Kung-Fu Pikachu]

I actually think that the ending was bad in the anime :( I mean, I don't mind sad endings, but it had almost no foreshadowing Ed is just like, "Oh, well, after I finally got my goal of coming back, I've decided I'm going back, bye Al!" and left >_>

The movie reunited them in the end. But, sadly enough, Winrey and Ed were never meant to be in the anime.

[Keira Maboroshi]

I know they're united but as I said before, it had almost no foreshadowing (And Ed did try and leave Al befind there, thats what I meant, but Al stowed-away)

[Tekkaman Saber]

A friend of mine told me that they have done a ova epsisode about ed's grandchildren visiting ed for his 100th birthday does anybody know if this rumour is true.

[Keira Maboroshi]

Yes the rumor is true, and Chapter 78 is out! It's out! FinallY!

[Tekkaman Saber]

I just read it, It was very interesting I'm still wandering though about those things that you saw the dad create ontop of that mountain (in a earlier chapter) maybe he has good homunculi I guess it would make sence seven heavenly virtues to combat the seven deadly sins.

[Duath]

Yay!

Its all set up though, which is no fun. I want to see ED!

[Keira Maboroshi]

Exactly, that chapter lacked Ed-kun D:

[Tekkaman Saber]

What does kun actually mean? I've guessed that chan means little but alot of teh japanese honorifics get me confused.

[Nickmogo]

-kun is usually used for males, either for older/senior males addressing younger males, or males of the same status addressing each other

-chan is more like a term of endearment, used for like younger siblings, good friends you've known for a long time, usually towards girls but it can just as easily be used for males too, if I had to relate it to english I'd say it'd be something like the equivalent of "dear"


Still don't know what happened to Ed......depressing
But this seemed like more of a build up chapter than anything, and next chapter is where everything might kick into gear, the war on Briggs fortress wil begin, Hoho may go to confront father, hopefully we find out about Ed

[wildstriker]

Why did Kimblee defected to Drachma side I wonder...?, is it part of Father & co's plan as well, or just on his own incentive?

[Master_Elric]

Hmm, I just read the chapter and I agree with tekkaman saber (I promise to make this my first post that isn't extremly long). The seven heavenly virtues used to comabt the deadly sins... that seems to make a little sense, but it also seems a little too far-fetched. One thing supporting this (kind of) is that Hohenhiem is trying to fight father in anyways possible, and it makes sense for HoHo to do exactly the opposite of what father is doing, so if father creates the seven deadly sins, then Hoho creates the seven heavenly virtues. BUT there is a mound of evidence that goes against this, and my personal opinion. Although it is an interesting theory, I remain skeptical about it. Hiromu Arakawa wouldn't introduce something THAT significant this late into it, it takes away the suspense and mystery. If she make those Virtues, then she should have intoduced them like father, make them hidden in mystery untill their initial role. Another thing is that father is kind og becoming a better soul by letting go of his sins. If Hoho makes the virtues, then he is letting go of good things, thus tainting his soul. Also, if he makes them, there should be a process, and i doubt that it would have been as demanding as a Sin but it would still have to make you use a soul, and Hoho is too good for that. (oops, made this long too, but not longer than the others :-)
*off topid- Does anyone here watch the show "scrubs"? GREAT SHOW! Comedy and sad drama..... but i digress....

[Nickmogo]

Why did Kimblee defected to Drachma side I wonder...?, is it part of Father & co's plan as well, or just on his own incentive?

http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/77/30/

He's acting on Pride's orders. He needs to ucase a bloody battle there just like the other one's all over Amestris to complete the trans circle/tunnel

[Pansori]

I thought this chapter was great! What a great week for manga, all the mangas I read were extra awesome... the only thing that could have made this any better was if a Gantz chapter came out this week, but alas...

Anway, so a lot of things happened in just 35 pages... where to start?? Hoho is done messing around... he's taking Father DOWN. And now we know Pride's origins, and apparently he has some limitations on where he can roam. I wonder what's up with that? Kimblee that scumbag (God, I love him even more) helped declare war, and looks like Envy (and maybe even Pride?) will be moving in.

Hopefully Ran Fan will pop up also. It was cool seeing Rose, after not seeing her for over 70 chapters, and it was so CUTE Mei trying to teach Al how use her Alchemy. I loved when Al was like: "I NEED A THEORY!!!" You have to love a scientific mind. ;)

This was a great chapter, but all too short. As we've said these last few weeks, things are really starting to come together.

OH! I forgot to mention... I almost cried when I saw poor Fury... that was the best scene in the manga this week! Arakawa is so awesome for remembering her side characters, and giving them what seems to be important roles for things to come. :D

[Lainemaa]

me happy great chapter now sleeeeeeep

[Master_Elric]

I realy like how things are moving fast now, but can Arakawa make the chapters a LITTLE longer? Not tying to rant, but I wait and chew my *** of for a month- 30 freakin' days- 43,200 god-forsaken minutes-2,592,000 sleepsless seconds- 2,592,000,000 cursed miliseconds- 2.592E12 damn microseconds- and 2.592E15 flippin' nanoseconds ( don't even try to do the math in your head, I can because I'm a math whiz, taking geometry in 7th grade)
So, now i have to wait that long AGAIN! This is gonna be a COLD December, eh guys?

[Nickmogo]

Eh, I really only sweat it like 3-4 days before and after releases, all the other time between isn't as bad

[Syolen]

**hasn't stop grinning since she's read the chapter**

This chapter's GREAT ! The last ones were all about Ed and Al in the North and I liked them very much because I love these boys, but it was good to know about the other characters' whereabouts (Fuery... T.T).

And Hohenheim's confrontation with Pride was really well-done. Can't wait for the time he faces Father.
Oh, and could Father be trying to become some kind of perfect supreme being ? He got rid of the Seven Sins, so all that's left in him should be (theoretically) "pure"... I know it's weird, because that guy is anything but pure, but... Oh well.

And I loved Hoho's comment on Ed's sense of art ! Poor Ed... Geniuses always are misunderstood... :lol:

And Al... Oh, Al... Arguing with Mei as if they were an old couple... *wipes tear of emotion* :lol:

[stagemystic]

Yessssssssssssssss! That was an excellent chapter! It was a nice mix of intrigue and plot twists with action.

First it was good to see Mustang's gang for a bit. I think Wrath made a huge mistake separating them. He just made it easier for them to gather info. Poor Fuery, I hope he makes it out.

Then Kimblee. God I love to hate Kimblee. No loyalties at all... Except to whoever gives him the most chances to make things go BOOM! ^_^ I 'm looking forward to the day Scar finally 'squishes' him. :devil:
Heck I think that'll call for an 'evil' happy dance! :eban:
Oh and I loved the shot of him and the cannon. I kept thinking of that scene in Shrek... "Do you think he's trying to compensate for something?" :lol:

Alphonse and Mei are quite cute fighting over alchemy and I always like to see more Ishbalans. I hope Arakawa takes good care of them at the end and they get thier home back.

Scar seems to have gotten very zen lately. Winry confronting him seems to have done him some good. That and having lots of people around him. Scar's a 'people person'! Who knew? I just adore this man. I really hope he survives!

But I have to say the gold of this chapter was Hoho! :thumbup: He just gets cooler and cooler. I love how he challenged Pride and Father! It's becoming very clear just how alike Ed and Hoho are.

Great chapter and I can't wait until the next one!

[Nickmogo]

Then Kimblee. God I love to hate Kimblee. No loyalties at all... Except to whoever gives him the most chances to make things go BOOM! ^_^ I 'm looking forward to the day Scar finally 'squishes' him.


Nooo, Kimblee dying is a bad thing, he's too awesome, I love Kimblee, he's the kind of devious opportunist that will stick it out and survive to the end for sure

And you're right about Scar, I haven't really thought about it until now but after the slaughter of Ishbal he was traveling all alone all that time with his brooding anger as his only companion. Just getting some human contact and seeing that not all Amestrians are pure evil is an eye opener for him, he's making a change for the better.

[Pansori]

LOL, you beat me, Nick, I was just about to say something.
Kimbley=mad love, he's just too awesome. In fact, I figure his death is inevitable, and I'm dreading the day that happens. He's too interesting!

I hope when the manga ends we get a fastforward, and we see Al and Mei a happy couple. They would be so cute! I love Mei.

I hope next chapter we see Hawkeye and Mustang, and see what Mustang intends on doing with his information about Pride.

But this was a great chapter.
It just needed to be longer!

[Nickmogo]

LOL, you beat me, Nick, I was just about to say something.
Kimbley=mad love, he's just too awesome. In fact, I figure his death is inevitable, and I'm dreading the day that happens. He's too interesting!

I hope when the manga ends we get a fastforward, and we see Al and Mei a happy couple. They would be so cute! I love Mei.

Sigh, yes yes I know Kimbley is gonna eventually get whats coming to him, but I think he's cunning enough to last for a good while longer before he's taken out =)


And thats a nice thought about Mei and Al, I have trouble remembering that Al is actually so young sometimes with that armor and all

[stagemystic]

Don't get me wrong guys, I thoroughly enjoy Kimblee. He is fascinating and so good at being evil. I love his scenes. I just think it's inevitable he'll die so I think those final scenes will just be spectacular. I also think Scar should be the one to do it. Hopefully it is a while away because I also fear those scenes. I'm worried Scar will die taking him down.

My only hope is that Arakawa hasn't been predictable. She kills off unexpected characters. Maybe she'll let unexpected characters live. If both Scar and Kimblee live that would definitely be unpredictable! ^_^

And yes I'm rooting for Al and Mei too!

[Nickmogo]

I actually could see a scenario where Kimbley lives, I don't think it's as likely as him getting creamed when all his bad karma catches up to him

But what I can see is some epic battles between all the main characters, Father and crew fighting Elrics and crew(battling in general, not a big battle royale) and while everyone is occupied with bigger things Kimbely sort of slips away in the fray and is forgotten for the time being, making him the only villian to escape their justice being served, and by then hes gone and doesn't die =)

[xingese_alchemist]

I actually could see a scenario where Kimbley lives, I don't think it's as likely as him getting creamed when all his bad karma catches up to him

But what I can see is some epic battles between all the main characters, Father and crew fighting Elrics and crew(battling in general, not a big battle royale) and while everyone is occupied with bigger things Kimbely sort of slips away in the fray and is forgotten for the time being, making him the only villian to escape their justice being served, and by then hes gone and doesn't die =)

I can see that happening, but only if Scar's already dead. There's no way Scar will ever stop chasing down Kimblee. And for that fact, I think Kimblee wants a round 4 (if round 3 is considered a round) with Scar. Final round... Go!

I like manga Kimblee better than anime Kimblee. In the anime, he was still mad, but strayed more to psychotic. Manga Kimblee is mad, but he retains this air of calm and collected, despite his madness. That's just too awesome right there.

Father, et al vs Elrics, et al- that would be crazy in manga format. And I really want that to happen. Although focus would inevitably go to the Elrics.

[MangaMan777]

Awesome chapter!! The war is going to be something to look forward to with Scar vs. Kimbly.

[Lainemaa]

Speaking of Mustang's gang. Am I the only one who desperately wants to see how Havoc's doing?

I have a bad feeling about Scar dying in the end. After all, he's been the bad guy in Amestris for so long that even if Father and gang gets defeated there's no way he'd be allowed to live in peace. He deserves some happiness. :(

[Syolen]

I KNEW I was forgetting something when I listed the loose strings. Havoc's condition, of course ! The whole gang is waiting for him, and he said he would help them as much as he could, didn't he ? We're definately going to see him again.

As for Kimbley... He's probably going to die, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or two villains did survive in the end, so why not him ? He told Ed he wanted to see if Homonculi really are stronger than humans, and that that was why he helped them. So maybe, if he realizes they're going to loose, he'll change sides ? I don't think Ed et al would accept him among them, but Kimbley could stop fighting them and disappear, thus escaping.

Although it's true that Scar won't stop chasing him, and they'll probably fight some more.

And we could get another Ed vs. Kimbley fight. Ed (Ed, where are you ???) will want to show him that one can win without killing. Arakawa spent too much time on this in chapter 76 for it to be overlooked in the next chapters.

[xingese_alchemist]

The chimeras are probably doing something to Ed, seeing as how the first 2 Ed fought still hold ties to Kimblee. Although these 2 maybe not, since Kimblee left them for dead.

I have a feeling that all of them, not just Havoc, will play a big role. Central will pay for underestimating Mustang's subordinates!

Lol, so many old characters appeared after prolonged absence, I'm inclined to believe soon, we'll see the Tuckers, and heck, why not some anime only characters. Psyren, the fake Elrics, Lyra- just add in the Thule society already :lol:

[stagemystic]

I like manga Kimblee better than anime Kimblee. In the anime, he was still mad, but strayed more to psychotic. Manga Kimblee is mad, but he retains this air of calm and collected, despite his madness. That's just too awesome right there.

Father, et al vs Elrics, et al- that would be crazy in manga format. And I really want that to happen. Although focus would inevitably go to the Elrics.


Manga Kimblee is calmer... but that just makes him creepier and more dangerous.
Nickmogo, Kimbley sneaking away makes sense but Scar would keep hunting him.

Oooooh... and an epic battle would be fantastic! I don't think it will be one big melee, that's too confusing. I think we'll see a lot of seperate confrontations all taking place around the same time that Arkawa will cut to and from.


You're right Lainemaa, it would be difficult for Scar to have any peace but I have an ending scenario I am rooting for.

Arakawa has been laying out the idea that violence breeds more violence and the only way to stop it is to break the cycle in yourself like Winry did with Scar. So what if, in the end, the Amesterians and the Ishbalans set up a "Reconciliation Comission" like South Africa did?

Because everything was manipulated by the Homoculi, the State Alchemists could be forgiven thier war crimes and Scar and Ishbalans like him could be forgiven thier retaliations.
Then Roy could be free to help fix the Amestris government and Scar could go home to rebuild Ishbal.
Arakawa keeps putting out the idea that the only way to stop the negative is with something positive. I think that'd be pretty positive! :)

[goldeneyedvampire]

This chapter was good. I didn't think Rose would be in the story again. The story just keeps geting more interesting. It was too short though. I wantid it at least to havee 45 pages.

[xingese_alchemist]

Agreed. Definitely too short.

If weekly scans have a normal size of 17-19, and sometimes have 21-23 page chapters, then FMA with its normal ~35-39 size should have at least a 41-45 if not a 47 page special chapter (this should have been one of them). Ideally. Although that would be a heck of a lot of work for the mangaka.

Hm... something about rose, will she rise in prominence in the same way she did in the anime? Or will she forever be delegated to second fiddle in the manga?

Personally, I like the second, because she really hasn't done aything noteworthy to suddenly deserve becoming a significant minor character. <-- Not counting the omake where she becomes a leader of a band of rebels xD

[stagemystic]

I have a bad feeling about Scar dying in the end. After all, he's been the bad guy in Amestris for so long that even if Father and gang gets defeated there's no way he'd be allowed to live in peace. He deserves some happiness. :(


Hmmm... My last post didn't go through (shrugs) anyways...

I was thinking that Arakawa has put so much empahsis on violence begeting violence and that there has to be someone who puts an end to the cycle (like Winry did with Scar). I wonder if she'll end it up with a kind 'reconciliation commission' like was done in South Africa!

Because the Homoculi were basically the ones who started it all and fed all the violence that followed maybe the civilian leaders of Amestris can get together with the leaders of Ishbal and give amnesty to the State Alchemists and Ishbalans like Scar. Remember Mustang and the others were responsible for some pretty horrific things, war or not. For Scar to be punished and not them is a bit unfair. For everyone to be punished would stir up too much negativity. The best course is forgiveness. Then Mustang can help revamp the Amestris government and Scar can go home and help rebuild Ishbal!

I am rooting for that kind of ending!

[xingese_alchemist]

That's definitely a nice ending, although I don't think Ishbalans will be so quick to forgive the state alchemists, especially if Amestris grants them amnesty too. Although, that would be if they're all of the same mind as Scar. Otherwise, they wouldn't care, because they're probably sick of violence.

Scar leading Ishbal would be nice. He definitely has the capabilities of a leader.

[Nickmogo]

I don't think Scar would [i]want[/] to lead Ishbal. He doesn't seem like the type of person that would want to be bothered with the problems and concerns of a whole nation on his back haha, he barely likes to help individual people when they come to him, I think he'd rather have some peace and quiet if he makes if through everything

[stagemystic]

I don't think Scar would so much be an official leader but I think, as much as he might want peace, he would feel it was his responsibilty to help rebuild Ishbal. I also think people would naturally follow him (look at the entourage he's built already lol ) whether he wants them too or not. ;)

[Pansori]

Another consideration that we can think about for the ending is the type of government it will leave with. Right now their government is something of a dictatorship, and in the anime it ended with a democracy taking over.

In the manga Ed promised that he would help bring in a democracy until Hawkeye mentioned that with such a change people like her and Mustang will be tried as war criminals for their part in the Ishbalan Massacre. I loved that Arakawa threw that in, because that is something very realistic, something the anime kind of glided over.

As to Kimbley possibly living... yes, I can see that happening, him managing to escape, but I don't think it's likely. I do agree, though, that some bad guys have to survive, and he seems like a likely candidate. I think all the sins are goners in the end, and of course Father... Ling will eventually win his battle with Pride (I hope).

I agree that everyone is going to play a pivotal role sooner or later, Arakawa won't spare a soul. Havoc and Ran Fan will return and we'll scream in joy. Somehow everyone will come together to do their part. That's one of the things I love about FMA... no one just standing around watching a fight ensue as is notorious in certain other mangas. *cough*BleachNaruto*cough*cough*

Now does anyone get a feeling that Lust may return, or is it just me?

[stagemystic]

It's kind of disturbing to think about but Amestris was basically founded to breed ingredients for a philosopher's stone. *shiver*


As to the military and war crimes, that's why I'm thinking a 'reconciliation commission' is a good solution. All sides would have to face what they've done but then they can move forward in peace. Arakawa seems determined to show that there's another way than vengence.

Oh and Lust. I forgot about her. They need a body for her so I wonder if they might use someone we know? Sheska, Lan Fan or maybe even Hawkeye! :eek:

That would just be heartbreaking...

[Lainemaa]

It's just you. Father might create another Lust but it wouldn't be the same character.

Surviving bad guys, maybe Sloth, he'd be useful in rebuilding the country after the chaos is over. But can the homunculi survive if Father is destroyed? Is their existence tied to him somehow? Because I don't want Envy to go away. He's just a cheerful bastard.:devil:

Edit: crossposted with Mystic. I didn't even thing about Father using someone we know to create another Lust. NOOOOO!!!!

[Nickmogo]

Hmm, I don't see Lust coming back, I think she's played her part. Plus, if Father needed her strength he's had plenty of time to bring her back already.

And as much as democracy=good and dictatorship=bad, I would like to see Mustang achieve his dream of becoming Fuhrer

[Syolen]

I don't think Lust will come back either, since her Philosopher's Stone was destroyed. Father took Gluttony's when he said he would bring him back. So maybe he needs their specific Stone to recreate a Homonculus... ?

[ghassassin]

What happened to Lust's stone? Was it destroyed? Otherwise she can come back if Father wants her....
Damn..I'm too bad at FMA's basics....

[Nickmogo]

I could be wrong, but I believe when the stone ran out of energy it was disintegrated along with her body by Mustang's flames.

[Syolen]

**checks** Yes, her Stone was destroyed.

[Keira Maboroshi]

No more Lustie D:

[Pansori]

Damn, that idea was shot down. :(
And I guess there's no possibility that another can be created for her. I guess it doesn't matter, it would be a totally different character.

[Keira Maboroshi]

Well, if all the Homunculi kept coming back to life, the series would never end... but that wouldn't be a bad thing actually...

[Syolen]

Damn, that idea was shot down. :(

Sorry ^^ :o

Keira Maboroshi is rigth, all the Bad Guys can't keep coming back to life ! So Lust's gone. But Father will probably have brought Glutonny back by the time the final confrontation begins, won't he ? The more, the merrier, after all.

[Keira Maboroshi]

Well, you see, Gluttony wasn't dead. His stone was running out of power, so Father made a new one of him.

[Syolen]

Yep, Glutonny's coming back. I guess his being a Gate, even if it's a fake one, is somehow useful to Father. And his ability to eat everything too, of course. Come to think of it, he's actually more dangerous than Lust. He can kill more people at the same time than she could. *shudders*


And can I just say that the upcoming battle in the North really worries me ? The men who follow Kimbely's orders will make sure there's as much blood shed as possible, and the Ishbalan refugees camp cannot be very far from Briggs, so what if Al, Mei, Winry, Scar, Marcoh et al get caught in it ? Winry and Marcoh are no warriors, so what would happen to them ?
Besides, the Homonculi are heading North now, or at least Envy is, and they'll help cause more havoc. And what if they do find the gang ?


Then, what if the chimeras had taken Ed somewhere far away from his brother ? Like, where Father wants him to be ? I don't remember which pawn on Father's sketch of the transmutation circle represents Ed, but in this chapter we see he has already positioned four of them (could Hoho's be the missing one ?). So, once again : Ed, where are you ??? (I can already hear him ranting : "who's so small you can't find him on your computer screen ?!" *sigh*)


On the other hand, if they have taken him away from Briggs, there's a chance the Homonculi won't find him, so he may be relatively safe for the time being.


And I think it's really important that Mei finds enough patience in herself to teach Al Rentanjutsu. 'Cause if they face Father and he disables their alchemy... Heh, not good. I absolutely adore their bickering, though. Sooo cute !

[Nickmogo]

On the other hand, if they have taken him away from Briggs, there's a chance the Homonculi won't find him, so he may be relatively safe for the time being.


Well remember the one Chimera called and told Envy exactly where Scar and company are hiding out, so unless they get moving soon, which it doesn't look like they are, they're gonna get found for sure.

[Syolen]

Yes, but this chapter's set ten days after we last saw them. So maybe they're not that far from Briggs, but far enough...
(In denial ? Me ? I don't know what you're talking about... :D )

[darkninja27]

I do not want Hoeinheim to go to the other side of the gate again cuz that really pissed me off when it happened in the Anime. But i guess War is happening and taking up Amesteris, in the North, South, West, and with itself. On top of that the Transmutation Circle has been Completed...hell is only a person away

[Keira Maboroshi]

Yeah, I did NOT like it when Hoho got sent across the gate...

[Master_Elric]

Is it just my computer, or has noone posted recently? hmm... well anyway, I was in such a good mood yesterday because I got all A's on my 2nd interim and I found myself infront of Barnes and Noble. Upon entering, I promanaded (sp?) over to the manga section and decided to buy all 14 volumes so I could actually have an official collection, and upon reading them over, I noticed the part on volume 13 when the fuhrur King Bradley ( hey, did you know that his first name is really "King"? I never knew that, I always assumed that that was part of his title like "Furhur King" Bradley- kind of like the king of fuhrurs? but anyway, dont get caught up in my digression, I do that a lot) explains to Mustang about how he was created after Mustang finds out that Bradley is a homunculus. In that part, that fuhrur recalls how he was put into a training facility where they trained the kids to be strong and to eventualy and inevitably have the philosiphers stone injected into their bloodstream. The scientists there looked really menacing and I thought about them for a second before I wondered "where the hell did they go?". Like seriously, they have never appeared again! Are they some kind of feindish association of which has associated itself with father? Will they ever show up again? what are your thoughts?Am I just rambling, High, both,neither , right about it or all of the above? Just filller, I can only predict that the new chapter is coming out on January 14th (or something) so if today is the 27th, then it makes 18 goddamn days, 432 f**king hours, 25920 asspenetrating minutes, 1,555,200 grueling seconds, 1,555,200,000 incapaciating milliseconds, 1.5552E12 holy balony microseconds, 1.5552E15 unbearable nanoseconds. ( dont try to do this in your head or on paper 'cause I did it for you, thank me later. (damn, this is one long post.... but then again, im only making it longer by typing my thoughts on here as they come up! Why am I doing this? Why am i asking these questions? Why do we love/ die? Who is god? Who isn't god? Why doesn't god show himself? Why do we dream? Why are you, some loser, still reading this post? Go on scram! just kidding, just using some post humor... don't think that's funny well I'll kick your---ooooof! OWWWWWW! WTF was that for you---- oooooffff augh!OW! Why are you hitting me! Damn! put that gun away! NO NOOOOOOOOO--- *BANG*..........................*silence* naw but really, stick around.....

[Nickmogo]

I don't think theres anything behind them, I think they were just military scientists, like the ones that ran that lab that did the soul transmutations

[*Rika*]

I was thinking, when it said the homunculus' come near as the caption at the end (something like that) i could of meant more than envy. Mabye Greed (Ling) might come along! It'd be great if we get to see him do something after the little screen time he's had recently. lust is completely wiped out, Pride and Sloth are stuck in a tunnel, Gluttonys being fixed and Wrath is stuck in central. But he might come over with reinforcements to battle the Drachmans in the North too. So it means Winry, Al and co along with Ed and all the military peeps are in deep water.

On the subject of Ed, i dont think he'll pop up in any chapter for a while. Mabye 2 chapters or even more. The story might be focusing on either Roy, the situation at Briggs north wall, Al and co, Hoho & Rose, or (with a seriously low possibility) Lan Fan and fu. To be honest i have no idea where the heck Ed is. Got a whole bunch of theories for the others but him, blank.

Hoho vs Father!!!!! YAY! Cant wait!

[Master_Elric]

totally non disscussion related but i was at barnes an noble again and i picked up the 1st FMA profiles book and it's very interesting. I heard that there is already a 2nd one so i'm gonna go and pick that one up tommorrow... damn! 12:33 AM! What the **** am i still doing up! it's already tommorrow!
Anyhoo, i agreee with Rika, it doesnt feel like ed's gonna be in here for a while, or if he is, only a brief scene to show where he is. I do think that Arakawa Sensei will want to focus on Briggs and mustang for a while, but i think that Hohenhiem should get more space on this 'cause he just made a pretty important encounter with pride, so they'd better , for a loss of a better word, explain his encounter a little more.... Oh ELABORATE! that was the word i was thinkin'! (oh and pardon my language on that little fiasco earlier, cause F**k S**t it's already 12:37 AM! I'll block cursing for now but HAD to to it up there.

[Typh]

cant wait for the manga anyways.... when will it be up?

[ghassassin]

cant wait for the manga anyways.... when will it be up?

Usually comes around 12 of each month.

[chaotic_one]

Hmm.....
Ive only read up to vol 15 maybe I should catch up...
Who here actually buys the english manga, and about how far ahead the eng manga is this site so far?

[Lainemaa]

I don't buy it in English but I buy the Finnish ones. No idea where the English publishers are at this point but you could propably look it up on wikipedia.

[Typh]

oh... i see 12th of each month
yeh thx for the info! x)

[Nickmogo]

I believe the published English volumes are up to 15

[stagemystic]

Yeah, I can't remember the volume number but storywise it's all about what happened in Ishbal. Those are some pretty gut wrenching chapters. :(

[Master_Elric]

Umm. did not anyone post just to say happy new year? Well, I see how it is! It seems that all your incompetent little parents didn't teach your dumbasses to be polite you stupid Irush f**ks (just randomly picked Irish, if needs be for you please replace it with anything really), Ed and Al would be ashamed of fans like you... did you even bother to send me a present for new years? I sent you all a sack of melons (if some stupid idiot doesnt get this, its what the fuhrur gives Ed when he is being hositalized) and you don't even bother for me! Oh, lets send Seth aka Master Elric a present.... NAH he wont mind... you all make me want to regurgitate my most recent meal in the most distrubing way possible. NAh! just fooling around with you, I don't need a present, but im not kidding about the melon part.... i put it in priority mail so it should be at all your houses by tommorrow... just wrote this cuz im bored and to make the wait for the next chapter a little less hard. For those of you who found comic relief from this, thanks and come again. (happy freakin' new year any hot girls out there, im single now so call me! You know the number. Oh yeah, and Happy New Year to everyone else!)

[chaotic_one]

........um.....

happy new year i guess
i noticed that you write incredibly long posts, and oh yeah no gift

[SKATEateer]

does the manga follow the anime pretty well?

[mizuharamitzu]

just wanna say i LOVE Fma!

[Pansori]

does the manga follow the anime pretty well?

Not at all... they're basically two completely different stories with some of the same elements. Even the main antagonist is totally different. And the anime has an ending, while the manga has yet to be completed.

[SKATEateer]

but are there still humoculi or however they are spelled.. like did ed/al still try to ressurrect his mom in the manga?
or is rose( ? that one girl ed dances with near the end of the anime, althogh im sure her name isnt rose haha) still around and have that baby

[Pansori]

Rose is there, but she is not a prominent figure. In fact, she was in the beginning of the manga, and then did not make another appearance until this last chapter. I was shocked to see her. And she doesn't have a baby.

Homunculi are also in the manga, but different. They are not created the same way as described in the anime. Also, Sloth, Wrath and Pride are all different. The kid Wrath and mommy Sloth is not in the manga at all.

The anime is good, the manga is better. :)

EDIT: Yes, they did try to resurrect their mom, same as the anime.

[Lainemaa]

There are homunculi, but they are diffirent.

Rose makes an appearance in the first few chapters and then again a short cameo much later in the series. She doesn't have a role in the main plot in the manga. Etc. asically they're totally diffirent. Just try reading the manga and you'll see what we mean.

[ghassassin]

Thats the place where the plot starts with. Its an important place in the homunculi plans. And Rose was an already known character related to that place, so an appearance of that place would definitely result in appearance of its residence..most prominently Rose.

[Master_Elric]

........um.....

happy new year i guess
i noticed that you write incredibly long posts, and oh yeah no gift

Hell yeah i do, but i'm despratly trying to cut back... and if you think my posts on this thread are long, you should see my first REAL post.

Back on topic, you guys should get your melons soon, and unfortunatlly, no hot girls have called me (read my earlier post) so i am very depressed. That and also the fact that there are 10 more grueling days, 240 unbearable hours, 14,400 goddamn minutes and 864,000 eye bleedin' seconds left till the new chapter (again, don't try to do this in your head) Back to FMA disscussion! what do you guys think about my theory that father wants to open the doors of truth to become a god-like creature, like the truth? People suspect that the transmutation circle that surronds amestris is a philypoo stone (thats my F**ked up way to say philosephers (sp) stone). There is no evidense the this is a philypoo circle, and when ed asks envy, envy says he is close (or was it marcoh...) So that tranmutation circle may be a human transmustaion circle so he can transmute himself to become god... or i just thought of something else while typing this and getting jacked up (not jacked off you pervs... and i mean you pansori, just jking with you) on 7 straight cokes (i kid you not) maybe father wants to make his body fully complete with on soul, instead of having tons of them, making him a superhuman with one full and untainted soul. I know, just throuwing ideas... damn, sorry chaotic_one, i made another long one.

[Nickmogo]

At least put some breaks for paragraphs in there or something.

[SKATEateer]

interesting i will start this manga soon!

[Nickmogo]

I envy you, I remember when I transitioned from the anime to the manga and got to read so many chapters in a row, I miss those days, compared to now, waiting a month between :(

[Master_Elric]

yeah, i remember that too (HAHAHA! I TOLD U I COULD MAKE A SHORT POST BUT YOU ALL WERE LIKE "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" LOOKS LIKE I SHOWED YOUR PONYASSES!(pardon my french, wait a second, how can you make parentheses inside parenthesis? shouln't it be a bracket? Hmmmmm... that could be one thing to ponder))
I remember when i first made the anime/manga transition myself. 'Twas great time, but i don't know about you guys but this month's wait hasn't seemed too long to me. I guess it was becuase of christmas, (or i got his really hot girl to go out with me (again with the double parenthesis, what is wrong with me!?? so im unavaliabe now for all of you girls who wanted to call me)) or is it because so many things have happened to keep me occupied. For me, it feels like ive barely been waiting!

S**t i made my damn post long again... well, maybe oneday i will finally make a post that wont take me a blackshmacker millisecond ( my f**ked up way to say 5 minutes(why do i have a F**ked up way to say everything... and why the double parenthesis!?!?!?!?!)) and maybe oneday i will actually make a short post... but i dont see it coming because i already made my new years resolution to fit 7 smarties and tic-tacs up my nose at the same time ( i kid you not, i can actually do 6- 3 in one nose, 5 in anohter, but i digress) well, enough comic relief for anyone who actually reads my posts... i wouldn't read them becuase i'm not stupid... so you just wasted 2 minutes of your time, but you have no life, what else would you do? (JK)

[Pansori]

I envy you, I remember when I transitioned from the anime to the manga and got to read so many chapters in a row, I miss those days, compared to now, waiting a month between :(

I got into FMA pretty early in the game, so I only had a few chapters to catch up in. But I remember when I first got into Bleach, Naruto and SAO. I devoured them. Especially Naruto... ahh, if I had back all the time I devoted to anything and everything Naruto, lol.

And Claymore. Someone from the Claymore thread specifically told me to take it slow, but instead I went on a crazy power reading week. Then when I was done I had to wait two months before the new chapter. :(

But when you first find a new manga and you're really getting into it... that feeling is real nice. :)

[Nickmogo]

Yeah once I read a few chapters and decide I like it I go on a marathon read, at the risk of my eyesight and fatigue

[Pansori]

Ahh, me too... I've been known to get headaches from staring at the computer screen for so long. :( It amazes me when people say something like "I read all 592 chapters in 8 hours!"

If I read that fast there's no way I'd absorb the story... and I'd probably be out of commission for the next 3 days nursing my poor head.

[stagemystic]

I remember reading all 72 chapters (at the time) in one sitting! Okay I skimmed the first few, because I'd started reading the mangas on my breaks at the bookstore I work at. Then I discovered the online scans. I was up until 3 in the morning and my eyes were stinging when I crawled into bed. My eyes were literally bloodshot the next day. :eek: I loved every second of it! ;)

On a side note, this post has been typed entirely one-handed as my kitten is currently sleeping on my arm... oh god, I'm becoming a crazy cat lady... :rolleyes:

Great, now he moves... go figure...

[Nickmogo]

For some reason your cat reminded me of the starting of the old cartoon Freakazoid, where the cat walks on the keyboard and types in the secret code. I don't know if anyone else used to watch that, if you didn't then ignore this cause it won't make sense.

But anyway, yeah I read all FMA chapters except for the first few in one sitting too, with the same side effects.

But there was no cat on my arm when I made this post, so I fail:(

[=Jin=]

I know how all the Homunculus will die yay

btw the author is an genius

[Nickmogo]

I know how all the Homunculus will die yay

btw the author is an genius

How would you know that?

[=Jin=]

which part the first statement or second

If it is the first statement you can go to
http://www.deadlysins.com/sins/history.html
But I warn you that it might be a spoiler and so far death of greed and lust have been correct

[Nickmogo]

Oh duh! Why didn't I ever think of that!

Of course that makes sense that Arakawa would kill them all according to the punishment in hell for the Sin they are named after. I feel so dumb, I knew about these punishments too, but I just never put two and two together!

I'm interested now to see how Arakawa kills off the remaining homonculi to make it fit with the punishments, assuming she continues to do that. Although I don't see why she would stop since Greed, Lust, and Gluttony all match up.

[=Jin=]

And seeing the newest chapter it seems like envy is going up north! where it is cold :)

[fullmetaljacket]

If it is the first statement you can go to
http://www.deadlysins.com/sins/history.html
But I warn you that it might be a spoiler and so far death of greed and lust have been correct

though i wonder how gluttonys' punishment would work?

[Nickmogo]

I think in a way Gluttony's punishment is ongoing.

"forced to eat rats, toads, and snakes"

He's been forced to eat tons of junk his whole life, you saw all the garbage in there when Ed and Ling were sucked in.

But that wasn't really a cause of death so I don't know, he is being reborn so I guess we'll wait and see how he dies the second time.

[han]

Wow that website was cool...I love the connections with lust and greed's deaths and their punishments. Heres hoping it means the end of Envy in the Ice fortress of Briggs :) If it were to keep going like that I'd be intrested by prides death. Broken on the wheel? Wikipedia also says that pride was "the original and most deadly sin" and they were pusnished by made to walk with stone slabs on their back. Oooh its all very interesting I like reading into things too much :P

People are saying that they think its gonna end soon. I disagree, what do you guys think? There are far too many open ends at the moment. Even with the circle completed the crests need to be made, and father needs to choose the other sacrifices. Plus there's the father/hoheim confrontation, Izumi must have something else to do, we need to see what happens to Roy and his subordinates, if he gets his revenge or achieves his dream (and gets with Riza :P:P), and of course there is the big question- will Ed and Al recover their bodies (so much is happening you forget thats how everything started lol)
I think as the crests are gonna be fathers next objective that there will be a bit more focus on Central and the Military's plans. Maybe Olivia taking action and Roy planing things with his subordinates or something. But this is all cos I really like and miss all the military goings on at central.


Lol I started to write this to say how much I love FMA and I've not said it yet. Its one of the main reasons I started reading manga and its still one of my favourites. I love how the descriptions of war and discrimation and most of the themes are very mature for a shonen I think, it isnt dummed down for kids its great i love it! :eban: dancing banana of FMA joy!

[Lainemaa]

I Think that Arakawa said something somewhere about there going to be about a hundred chapters in total. I think the ending is in sight but it's not going to be soon. If it ends at precisely 100 chapters we still have almost two years of waiting ahead of us.

Arakawa might just be the kind of author who doesn't feel the need to tie absolutely every loose thread up in the end. I personally prefer an ending that's neat but not too neat.

[Master_Elric]

hmmm.... you know what, as i looked at the website, i just got an idea of how all the homunculi will die....

ok, pride being "broken on the wheel" is pretty vague, but as of the most recent chapter, we know that he cannot move out of the trans circle and the heart of centreal city, so i think that pride will be destroyed by fathers transmutation circle.

envy... freezing water... briggs.... put the pieces together dumbasses.

wrath being dismembered.... my best guess would be he either gets killed by pride's sharp shadowa, or ling/greed.
and i looked on wikipedia for the broken on the wheel thing: turns out that it is an old french form of torture were one is nailed to a wheel and they break their arms off or something gay like that.

[Master_Elric]

dam, sorry for the double post but why havent you guys made the connection between gluttony and sloth. sloth"falls into a snake pit" which i think is a metaphor or a euphimism for gluttony's stomach, and gluttony dies by eating toads and snakes, like a metaphor for sloth being eaten because he is an orobourous, or snake i t may sound crazy but i just bouncing ideas, but it seems pretty feasable to me.

[han]

Master_Elric I love your Pride/Transmutation theory. That would be a very ironic death for him lol. The Sloth/Gluttony one is good too, as I find them the most harmless I always wondered how they would die, plus the snakes/orobous thing always something I relate together too.

I hope Ling isn't the one who kills Wrath though, I feel that a military member should be the one who kills him.
As I write about wrath two thoughts came into my head:
-Wrath uses Swords - a handy dismembering weapon
-Olivia Armstrong - She seems like a fitting military member to kill wrath, just like Roy was fitting to kill Lust

SO my new theory for Wrath's death is Olivia kills him, maybe with his swords just to make it cooler, probably in an attempt to take over the military (which she would then have to be unable to do cos thats Roy's position :D:D)

[Nickmogo]

dam, sorry for the double post but why havent you guys made the connection between gluttony and sloth. sloth"falls into a snake pit" which i think is a metaphor or a euphimism for gluttony's stomach, and gluttony dies by eating toads and snakes, like a metaphor for sloth being eaten because he is an orobourous, or snake i t may sound crazy but i just bouncing ideas, but it seems pretty feasable to me.

Why would Gluttony eat Sloth?

[Lainemaa]

Because he eats everything? He swallowed Envy too.

No opinions on the theory though but it sounds interesting. Except that since Envy was the one to kill Hughes, Mustang is going to be pissed if he doesn't get to kill Envy himself.

[Master_Elric]

yeah, i'm pretty sure that gluttony would eat sloth by accident like if someone hit sloth into gluttony's big eating blast. I don't know why that would kill gluttony as well but what do we know? maybe if a homunculus eats a homunculus, it dies? I know, it sounds retarded but still a theory. I want there to be a fight between mustang and envy, but i dont think it will happen that much cuz he killed lust not too long ago. Then again, if the sin is being put into freezing water, mustang could lead him into a frozen lake and then melt the ice beneath envy... not sure how that'll kill him...

On a different note, i dont know where, but i am 100% positive that there are other ways that the sins can die becuase i remember that pride was to walk around in burning and acrid smoke and envy was to have their eyeslids sown together so that they cannot see others and want what they have... not sure but look at wikipedia and look up the seven deadly sins.

[han]

There are different Sin punishments depending on what you are reading. Wikipedias knowledge is based on Dante's Inferno I think, more than looking at the sins in a wholly religious sense.

Gluttony is, at best, a bit of a simpleton. If someone tricked him into getting angry or something methinks he could easily eat sloth (who is also not the smartest of the bunch)

Maybe Mustang will kill Envy, just up in briggs. Personally Id quite like it if he didnt find out who killed Huges, just pushing the poor man further over the edge :p

[ghassassin]

Maybe Mustang will kill Envy, just up in briggs. Personally Id quite like it if he didnt find out who killed Huges, just pushing the poor man further over the edge :p

Actually, it doesn't matter to him anymore who killed Hughes. The murderer of Hughes were the Homunculi, in the broader sense. He won't have his hatred for the homunculi any lesser than Envy, or rather the person who killed Hughes. So, anyone who happens to kill Hughes' murdere, it won't be any problem for Mustang as such.

[Syolen]

I think Mustang would definately like to know who killed Hughes, and go after Envy himself. He probably won't make a fuss if someone else kills him, though.

Anyway, chapter 79 should be out on Saturday in Japan. Hopefully we'll learn more about what's going on in Central. And about Ed, too. Although it wouldn't surprise me if Arakawa made another chapter without the main character... - -'


(I know it's a bit late for that, but Happy New Year everyone ! :D )

[stagemystic]

I love the info about the sins! Very fitting... I wonder where 'Father' fits in? Perhaps he'll be like Lucifer, cast into a 'lake of fire'. :eban:

Ooh, and I have a theory I would love to see play out...
Father dug trenches around Xerxes to create the original philosophers stone array and has dug tunnels beneath Amestris to do it again.

Now the counter array Scar's brother made looked different. What if Hoho was his teacher and already designed it years ago? What if he's already built the counter array and his travelling around releasing souls at certain points is his preparation to activate it? And If he has built that array how would he hide it from 'father'?

Trains play such a big part in the story, what if the railway tracks are the array? I know it's a weird idea but I kinda like it... ;)


Next chapter is out saturday, hum?

Let the countdown begin! :D

[Typh]

Interesting idea Guess we gota keep readin to find out :D

[Syolen]

Chapter 79 preview !!! http://community.livejournal.com/hagaren_manga/282567.html#cutid1

[stagemystic]

Thankee! :thumbup:

Nice teaser! Can't wait! :eban:


Oh and in honour of chapter 79... new icon... ^_^

[Master_Elric]

wow stage mystic, that is quite a freakin theory! I really like your ideas about Hoho going around releasing souls for the counter array, and remember how it is said that pride gets broken on the wheel? well, I think that he gets caught in the middle of the two arrays and gets destroyed... i guess that somehow has to do with getting broken on the wheel...

[Lainemaa]

I can't wait! So I changed my avatar to suit the mood.

[Syolen]

Yes, 'seems the raw is hiding again. Where is it ?


Here's a (very) short summary I found on another thread :
The slaughter has begun at Briggs.And apparently Kimblee as mad as ever is going to use his favourite bomb ingredients:human bodies.

Scar got finally caught because of some tricks and traps of chimeras and Envy.

Seems like Envy is gonna be badly injured(related to something like landmines apparently whereas he just found Marcoh),maybe his end is closer than expected.

from : www.fullmetal-alchemist.com

Apparently still no sign of Ed or Mustang... :(

[Lainemaa]

I was expecting someone to start posting spoilers soon. So the chapter shouldn't take more than a day or two to arrive. I'll avoid the spoilers as usual and just sit here biting my nails and refreshing the main page every fifteen minutes starting tomorrow evening.

[Syolen]

And... HERE'S THE RAW !!! http://www.sendspace.com/file/wekagc

[deathbeard]

Soooo, is there a concrete date for the release, or is it just "the next few daysish"?

[Lainemaa]

No concrete day. The scanlators do they best and that's what the rest of us should be grateful for.

[Master_Elric]

ive decided not to look at the raw right now... i wanna see it play out in english...

I AM SO PISSED! I WANT THE F**KING CHAPTER OUT RIGHT NOW! Oh well, now i have time to finish reading D.Gray Man, and about that manga, it has a surprising amount of material that is like FMA: Allen becomes an excorcist=alchemist(kind of) Allen and Ed both attempt to bring a parent back to life and fail to create something different(allens dad becomes an akuma, in anime of FMA trisha becomes a Homunculus) and the decendants of Noah are kinda like the Homunculi.

[xingese_alchemist]

Scans are out on MH thanks to motley

FMA 79 Thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24333)

I want to talk about it, but I'm not sure how to put in spoilers, and I'm not sure when it isn't considered spoiler anymore? I'll wait til OM puts it on. Then I'll scream about how awesome this chapter is.

To drop a bombshell of a hint, Scar + Mei + Marcoh = a literally deadly team. =D

Hopefully that doesn't require spoiler tags >_>

[Nickmogo]

Ahh, good chapter. You're right Xingese, team Marcoh did a pretty kick *** job. And don't worry about spoiler tags, everyone that discusses here is all caught up far as I know, and smart enough to not read new posts after you said the chapter was out without expecting any ;)

I'm confused about Kimbley though, I thought his goal was to take Briggs down, so either he has another step of his plan to bring down the fortress, or all he needed was enough bloodshed around Briggs, which accomplished by the Drachma people getting slaughtered.

[Lainemaa]

Gaah. Spoilers.

See you again after OM has the chapter up. Or maybe I'll go see somewhere else... Patience... What is that?

[MangaMan777]

I'm just gonna wait til it's on onemanga

[xingese_alchemist]

@ nickmogo, i have a feeling that when the bloody crest is being carved into briggs, father doesn't give a crap on the nationality of the blood that's placed there.

The people in briggs will probably serve as the human sacrifices needed to be placed into the stone. sorta like how the ishbal prisoners were placed on the circles back before the ishbal memory arc.

[Nickmogo]

Why doesn't everyone just use the link Xingese posted...



@ nickmogo, i have a feeling that when the bloody crest is being carved into briggs, father doesn't give a crap on the nationality of the blood that's placed there.

The people in briggs will probably serve as the human sacrifices needed to be placed into the stone. sorta like how the ishbal prisoners were placed on the circles back before the ishbal memory arc.

Yeah, I had just thought that when Pride told Kimbely to put a bloody crest on Briggs, he meant by killing everyone in Briggs, but I suppose briggs still being manned and protected won't make a difference for father's array, as long as there is blood.

[xingese_alchemist]

well, RS mirrors tend to take time to DL, although its a zip file, so it should be easy to unpack and stuff. not like a .rar file...

o well. their loss. less time to discuss lol. i got to go soon though. finals this coming week -.-

edit:

yea, when pride said that, from ed's response i thought so too. guess kimblee found a loophole in that arrangement lol.

edit2:

now that it's been around for at least a couple hours... i want to scream...
WOW ENVY GOT COMPLETELY OWNED AHAHAHAHAHA ONE OF THE BEST SCENES EVER

[Lainemaa]

It's up so I won't bother with spoiler warnings. Read at your own risk.



Awww... Poor Envy... My favourite villain in FMA. Serves you right you cheerully sadistic bastard! Hee hee. Marcoh found his inner badass. Scar holding the Envy-slug by it's tail was priceless. That alchemy minefield was a good one. I also liked that the chimeras stayed loyal to Marcoh et co. Bye bye Envy. Only four homunculi to go.

But. No Ed!

Speculation time: Mustang got Lust, Marcoh got Envy, Gluttony ran out of batteries. We have four left but I suppose it's possible that Greed will survive. So we need somebody to finish off Sloth, Wrath and Pride. Any theories on wo will get to finish off the rest? I kind of like the idea of Greed/Ling fighting Wrath/Führer. And Ed needs to finish one. Maybe Pride?

[Syolen]

MARCOH FOR THE WIN !! :thumbup: I really like it that he plays an important part in the plot, even though he's not one of the main characters.

Envy's true form is just great. It's fun that the Homonculus embodying envy actually has such a... pathetic form ? He won't be able to call Ed a shrimp anymore :lol:

Speaking of Ed... Where is he ???

The situation in the North should be calming down now : the fight against Drachma is over (and Father's got all the blood he could have wished for. No one ever said it had to be Amestrian.), Envy is no longer a threat (watching Scar holding him by his tail, I almost wondered if he was going to fry him or something :lol:)...

So now, back to Central ! I want to know what's happening there. And how Ed is doing, of course. Al seemed to be doing fine, so we can guess Ed isn't on the brink of death, but still...

[Lainemaa]

Fried Envy! Who wants a taste?

[Nickmogo]

I wonder, they didn't seem interesting in killing Envy after she was reduced to her shrimp form, maybe they're hoping to get some information out of her? That's some potential juicy information for us if they do:D

[stagemystic]

Oh that was fan-freakin-tastic!!
I love that the whole thing was a set up and they weren't just hiding all this time. Marcoh kicked ***! And Envy looks like seafood... I bet his fangirls are a bit put out... :devil:


Scar didn't seem to know what to think of Marcoh at the end. I wonder if he'll forgive him...

[Nickmogo]

Wait, envy was supposed to be a guy?

I thought Envy was a female this whole time...:eek:

[stagemystic]

Nope, just an androgynous (I KNOW I spelled that wrong) pretty boy.
Or, at least, he was ... :devil:

Hey I wonder if that means that all the souls he had absorbed were released? I remember Ed talked to people who seemed to be embedded in Envy before. I don't know if that'll mean anything or not... :confused:

[Lainemaa]

I think of him as genderless, neuter. But since English doesn't have gender neutral pronouns (stupid language) I use "he" for convenience.

[Nickmogo]

Yeah but I mean in the sense, Gluttony is a guy, Lust was a girl, etc. I thought Envy had a female human body also, but I guess not, now I feel kind of dumb:o

[Lainemaa]

I'll feel dumb right alongside you. I didn't reallize that it was Envy in this new chapter until he dropped the disguise. Should have recognized the grin immediately but I was just wondering whether we'd seen this particular ishvalan before...

[HikariNoYami]

I feel disgusted by reading Fullmetal Alchemist, but I can't but help continue reading it. (Blood and gore makes me feel a bit quesy, but I got hooked on FMA daymn it! It's like a drug... or anti-drug really... -_-)

I wasn't sure who it was when I saw the grin, but I had a slight push to thinking that it was Envy. Actually, you can use "it" to describe something not female/male... but what can you do. (By the way Lainemaa, I love your avatar, that's supposed to be Ed right? xD)

[Hagane-Gir]

New member. Hullo.


Speculation time: Mustang got Lust, Marcoh got Envy, Gluttony ran out of batteries. We have four left but I suppose it's possible that Greed will survive. So we need somebody to finish off Sloth, Wrath and Pride. Any theories on wo will get to finish off the rest? I kind of like the idea of Greed/Ling fighting Wrath/Führer. And Ed needs to finish one. Maybe Pride?

This is just me, but if you think about it, Mustang and Marcoh both had strong connections/hatred to the Homonculi they killed. Mustang saw Havoc practically die at the hands of Lust and almost met a similar fate, plus she was about to kill Al and Riza.
Marcoh, when captured, really only interracted with Envy (at least what we saw) and you know, prisoner becomes angry at his captor and seeks revenge.

So, if you go by that, I'd say
Pride would probably be killed by Riza. At the very least, I'd like to see that. She's interacted with him the most.
Wrath could possibly be the victim of Ling or Lanfan after he attacked them. Or even Olivier.
Sloth would be killed by Ed, Al, or anyone at Briggs.

Leaving Greed and Gluttony. But those two are really special cases, I suppose.

It's a pretty wild theory heck I don't really believe, but it'd be interesting nonetheless...

[Lainemaa]

I'm not sure if Riza has what it takes to kill a homunculus. At least since pride doesn't exactly have a normal physical body. She'll propably be busy killing the evil humans while the alchemists take care of the homunculi.

[Nickmogo]

Sloth would be killed by Ed, Al, or anyone at Briggs.

I wonder if the brother will eventually go through the trial of actually killing someone. They Haven't yet have they? FMA has been going on a long time and I have a bad memory, but I don't think so, someone confirm or correct me please. ANd Even though the Homunculi aren't human, its still killing a living thinking being, I wonder if they will have to and how they would react if they're forced to kill.

[Zren]

Heh heh, sneeky Xoa. Her alchemy shape reminds me of Ed sorta. At least the hand shape but since it's the same mangaka and all... Where is Ed?
So, now that Marcoh has the power to remove the stone, and Crimson's probably still alive. So Crimson may attack them again.

I believe it might be Wrath that Ed fights. Since he will probably fight with his swords and only Ed it one that i can thing of with a weapon like such. However he might fight with Greed first to find out if he really is taken over. However, he might not actually kill any of the homuniculi at all and rather be the one to finish Father, if Hoenheim doesn't.

Hagane-Gir: It'd be awesome to have Riza finish Pride. Although Mustang will help out since Fire emits light. Thus cornering him in his true form. However I don't think Mustang will finish off Pride too either.

Though Pride looks like the homuniculi the most like The Gate other than Gluttony. Possibly making him to have been a trapped part of the creatures inside the gate.

[Hagane-Gir]

I'm not sure if Riza has what it takes to kill a homunculus. At least since pride doesn't exactly have a normal physical body. She'll propably be busy killing the evil humans while the alchemists take care of the homunculi.

What about the markings on Riza's back? Surely there's something there.
Unless, of course, that was already explained. It's been quite some time since I read those chapters. Still though, if it hasn't been explained then it's possible.

And besides, I never pegged Marcoh to be Envy's killer. If Riza had a team surrounding her like Marcoh did I suppose she could pull something up.

I wonder if the brother will eventually go through the trial of actually killing someone. They Haven't yet have they? FMA has been going on a long time and I have a bad memory, but I don't think so, someone confirm or correct me please. ANd Even though the Homunculi aren't human, its still killing a living thinking being, I wonder if they will have to and how they would react if they're forced to kill.

I kinda want Ed to kill Kimblee. Based on the fight they had in chapter 75 or something, and the lesson I'd hope Ed learned (don't hold back on an opponent, be prepared to kill etc) he's bound to kill somebody soon.

EDIT:
To quote Wikipedia on the Riza issue;
It is stated that her father has passed on to her the secrets of his most powerful alchemy. As such (revealed in chapter 60), this is what is on Riza's back: a marking encoded in a way that can't be understood by ordinary alchemists. It has been recorded on Riza's back to escape anyone who may take away her father's research after his death. Since Hawkeye asked Mustang if she could "trust her back" to him, it is implied that permission was given to Roy to decode her father's alchemy secrets.

I don't suppose Roy has managed to decode it?

[Nickmogo]

What about the markings on Riza's back? Surely there's something there.
Unless, of course, that was already explained. It's been quite some time since I read those chapters. Still though, if it hasn't been explained then it's possible.


It's my understanding the tattoo on her back is her Father's work, with I think is the secret to Mustang's flame alchemy. Thats all it is as far as I know, so anyone that knows more feel free to expand.

EDIT: just moved my post down since it fits better here :)

[ghassassin]

I just read the new chapter. So Envy has gone, really. I never expected Marcoh would do that himself. Anyways. Nothing much happened to the plot except that one of the villains is defeated. I am still expecting something from Roy. Maybe an encounter with Kimbley, or something.

[Dreams of Fate]

"Getting blown up while i was still talking...How rude" lol
Well, i suppose envy is not yet completely dead...I mean that thing seems to be Envy's core or something...

[Nickmogo]

Yeah I think they still have plans for Envy.

[Hagane-Gir]

He's as good as dead though. They've destroyed the stone in him and he doesn't appear to be able to move.
Most likely they might be able to get some information out of him, or else kill him straight off.

[wildstriker]

Of all ppl, Envy got pwn'd by..., Marcoh?, surely didn't see that coming, since Mustang himself want a revenge for Hughes murder by you-know-who.

And the worm thing come out from Envy, I think that's actually his true form, he'd envied anyone as that lowly lifeform now, wouldn't he?

[han]

I wasn't really satisfied with Envy's defeat. It was nice that Maroch defeated him, I never wanted Mustang to finish him, revenge for Hughes was making him lose focus on his goals.
It just all seemed really...rushed. There was no buildup or anything just one chapter "oh, im going to briggs" the next chapter "ah look, now im being detroyed"

And yea, I think that is his true form, he is an inscect so is envious of everything, that's why he was shouting he didnt want pity cause it makes him feel more insignificant and jealous. Maybe they wont kill him but send him to mustang who can keep him in al lil jar? :P

[Winry Chan]

It's been a long time since I posted. Wow. Hehe...

Yeah, I just finished reading it. Holy cow. Envy.... I agree with whoever said that it seemed rushed. The whole Envy-arriving-at-the-Ishbalan-camp scene seemed WAAAAYYYY too rushed. I mean, did Envy kill so many people, survive so many attacks, and can only be obliterated by a doctor. Yeah.

However, Marcoh killing him is just poetic justice. After being threatened by Envy so many times (for some reason, I really like the words "so many" today...^^), he finally pays him back.
And yes, I know Envy isn't really "dead". I just feel like saying "ENVY'S DEAD!" because it's been so long since a homunculus died.

Two things:
o notice Arakawa is going in order? We meet Lust and Gluttony in Leor, then Envy shows up... hm...)
o also, did anyone else jump, when, on page 8, before you scroll down to see the entire page when the random Ishbalan said "the doctor?" I THOUGHT ED WAS GONNA SHOW!!! So this is what heartbreak is....

Sorry for the long post...

[Syolen]

Forgive me for what I'm about to say, but I think Envy's defeat is rather fitting... **goes into hiding**

I mean, such an anti-climatic, quick and humiliating defeat will leave him even more... mad and envious ? Serves him right. He's not dead, though, so he probably still has a part to play.

And does anyone else think that the ultimate punishment for him would be to be put in an aquarium in Mustang's office once he's become the Furher ? :p

(side note : someone should make an embryo Envy plushie :lol:)

[Tekkaman Saber]

:lol: that would be quite fitting and i could imagine it envcy could be his scapegoat for getting out of meetings.
Mustang: Uhm sorry i need to head home and feed my homunculus.

[xingese_alchemist]

lol I think English is more gender neutral when it comes to language than other languages... most languages have a separate way to denote female/male adjectives while English doesn't. But yea, if you want gender neutral pronouns, just use "it" =P

I'm thinking that Envy doesn't look that way because that's his real form, but more like after the essentially complete destruction of his stone, that's all that's left of him. I could be wrong. =/ I for one am glad to finally see his demise. Although I hope that Mustang will put the final touch to his death to avenge Hughes. Still sad that Hughes died so long ago. T__T

My prediction for who gets which Homunculus-
Sloth/Olivia (I have a feeling that given her skill as a leader, she'll find a way to permanently get rid of him this time)
Pride/Riza (after what he did, no way can she see him as a cute little boy) or Mustang (for threatening Riza)
Greed/RanFan or Ed (if at all, I still think Greed is somehow going to be taken out of Ling eventually or at least I hope so)
Wrath/Ed (seems fitting enough. Dog of the military taking down the alpha male) or Mustang or Olivia (for the purpose of taking the seat ^_^)
and of course
Father/Hoho+Elric bros. (Who can't see this happening?)

I think Scar still thinks of Marcoh as an eventual target, but I'm sure that he's slowly giving up on that for the idea of helping others. I've noticed with Scar that over the manga, there's been a general shift from revenge to helping others (in a way). I think the epitome of that shift will be his view toward Marcoh changing.

I really love how Ed's MIA for 2 chapters. That means... knowing FMA... his return will be utterly kick-@$$.

edit: oops, too long in typing this up >_>
I agree with Winry-chan. As much as I hope Mustang gets revenge for Hughes in the end, having Marcoh be the person directing Envy's downfall (with the imo unexpected help from the chimeras) is indeed justice on Marcoh's part. Being hounded by Envy for so long must have finally taken its toll. In a good way.

[Pansori]

There goes any ideas that Mustang will be the one to take down Envy. Nice ending, though I was disappointed to see him go. Envy is such a sadist, I couldn't help but love him. I don't think he'll be back, his story's been told. His demise wasn't as awesome as Lust's, but it was still good. But what the heck was he? Some weird fetus of some sort. Good chapter, but all too quick. I finished it in less than 10 minutes, and now I have another month to wait. Just as quickly as the wait was over, it started again. :(

[ghassassin]

Thats what happens with monthly mangas. Wait for a month just to see it go poof in a couple of minutes. Moreover, you just lose the momentum of the series. I've to read the last chapter as well with the new one, each time, just to know where exactly were we.
But the good part is, things doesn't seem to hang up like weekly ones. Envy came, died, turned to that eel thing.....and all happened in some 10-15 pages. And well, I never expected Mustang to take down Envy. I mean, he could have done it but his revenge for Hughes' death was more on the the Homunculi rather than just Envy alone. Another great part being Marcoh's alchemy. Seriously, not even in my wildest dreams did I expect him to defeat Envy who was torturing him for all those years.

@Nickmogo : I myself, had mistaken Envy to be a girl for some 70 chapters since the beginning. I can share that embarassment now, it seems.

[Geyter]

Hmm, they wouldn't draw a girl with abs like that i think. Well except maybe in kenichi, but that's about it.
And you are right about the monthly thing, i always forget what the hell is going on. But i'm too lazy to go back and read it all so i generaly just read a manga where i have forgotten most of what is going on.
Maybe i should wait a few years and read it in its entirity. (if the manga still goes on for that long, at least.)

[Hito]

wow way to go marco takeing revenge and even killing a homunculus, well not really killing cause it looks like the real envy is that little fish thing and its still alive right?

[Nickmogo]

Yeah that embryonic shrimp like thing is envy's true form, so he's not dead, but he is powerless.

[Geyter]

They are gonna have to put it in icy water

[stagemystic]

I kinda want Ed to kill Kimblee.

Hate to disagree but Kimblee belongs to Scar. He slaughtered his entire family in front of him after all. When the time comes I hope he roasts him!

Actually, now I think about it, does anyone think it will come out that Kimblee was ordered to kill Winry's parents?

It's such an interesting connection. If Scar hadn't killed them, Kimblee would have. Because Scar did it, his remorse when confronted with Winry turned him away from his single minded revenge and, I suspect, will save her life. Just a thought...

[stagemystic]

They are gonna have to put it in icy water

Mmmmm... Iced shrimp sushi. Maybe when Ed shows up he'll eat him by mistake... :D

[Master_Elric]

i really doubt riza will kill pride becuase i have a STRONG feeling that pride will "die on the wheel"

like the punishemnt for the sin of pride, so i think that Ed, Al, Father, Hoho, or anyother alchemist will activate the human transmutation circle(thats my theory abouyt the circle being a human circle instead of a philos stone circle to father transmutes himslef, and i am almost positive that it is so...) and then another alchemist will alctivate the reverse circle, and cause a rebound on father, trapping him, and killing pride in the process. Thats the only way that pride will die in relation to his punishment in the bible.