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Greg
08-01-2007, 08:18 PM
FMA discussion currently belongs here.

Arystar Krory
08-04-2007, 09:50 AM
Who hasn't seen all the episodes or read the manga?

Kay
08-04-2007, 10:16 AM
i did see the manga 0_o

tsunade666
08-04-2007, 02:57 PM
I see the whole anime and watch the movie a great anime to watch but never been reading the manga:lol:

Kay
08-04-2007, 02:58 PM
try read the anime even thou at 1st ep the drawing is meh

wildstriker
08-04-2007, 04:03 PM
uh..., "read the anime"?

well, anyway.., what do you guys think on last chapter?, especially when Father put up some pieces on the paper that seems like alchemy drawing, stating Ed, Al, Hoenheim, & Izumi as " suitable candidates".

Kay
08-04-2007, 04:12 PM
opps it suppose to be read the manga haha...miztypo
hmm look like they are the choosen one to be sacrifice

ValkyrieEG
08-04-2007, 04:20 PM
I am still reading the manga to this day (once a month is TORTUREEEE)
but the noncanon anime story line was PRETTY annoying.

Yes, they are probably gonna be used as sacrifices.....for the Stone or something even more powerful I guess.

so.....I wonder when Ed is going to go for a relationship with Winry eh? eh?

Kay
08-04-2007, 04:22 PM
err....no spoiler ^^;

wildstriker
08-04-2007, 04:35 PM
Reliationship with Winry...?, don't think we need that now..., especially it's already hard for them to escape out of the current crisis.

CheshireCat
08-04-2007, 11:30 PM
The anime was crap. I hated the anime, it made everything seem so happy and non-angsty. The story is SUPPOSED to be dark, dammit.

frost city
08-05-2007, 12:35 AM
I watched the anime before I read the manga, so I like both about the same. Anyway, manga discussion.

I wonder who the other sacrifice/s will be? Hope one of them is Mustang, that'll make things interesting. Although I hope the next chapter focuses primarily on what Olivia will do in Central.

*Rika*
08-05-2007, 02:12 AM
I prefer the mangas plot but anime can give a bit of atmosphere.

How long do you think it will be until Als soul will be rejected from the armour? Only asking because it seems that his bodys calling it back. (hope i didnt spoil anything) :$

Dark Schneider
08-05-2007, 02:23 AM
The manga is leagues above the anime. The anime utterly butchered the homunculus and jobbed them out hardcore with the whole bones being kryptonite thing. Father is also far more interesting than that stupid Dante character that the anime created. Basically just everything about the manga is far better.

That said, for filler episodes the anime is still relatively entertaining. Far more so than any fillers you would see in the likes of something such as Naruto or Bleach.

wilkz
08-05-2007, 07:55 AM
i never will read the manga I really dont give a damn about it, I just liked the anime and the movie, I didn't really care, much else except Envy turning into a friggen Dragon.....seriously thats ****ed up...


EdXRose Fan! :D

Sniper
08-05-2007, 08:14 AM
I can obviously see that Wilkz is a huge fan. I'll be sure to direct all of my questions at her.:p

I wasn't a huge fan of the movie. It seemed like just an excuse to show a lot of characters and felt too crowded. The story was also pretty cheesy.

What I want to know is why do the manga chapters only come out once a month?

Rawr
08-05-2007, 08:44 AM
Manga only comes out once a month cause its a monthly manga :p, at least that's what I thought.

Also...Anime and Movie were both terrible when compared to the Manga..
Anime ending was complete and utter garbage..the homunculus in the anime compared to the ones in the manga was such a joke...
AND last but not least...the movie was so BAD, it was basically a half assed way to answer and complete the ending..

Sniper
08-05-2007, 05:49 PM
Now now, it wasn't that bad. The anime was good up until the end, and even the end was acceptable (though confusing as hell). So far though, I do like the manga better.

frost city
08-05-2007, 07:29 PM
What the anime lacked in story (which, IMO, wasn't that much T_T) it made up for in atmosphere. The art was good, the acting was good, the soundtrack was good. It was a well-crafted series. It didn't follow the manga because Arakawa asked for it to be that way.

That said, the manga storyline is cooler. Done.


It seems that, from now on, Al's body will be calling him more and more. It really feels like The End is Near. Arakawa said that it would end at about 100 chapters.

...But that would take like two years. >_> So nevermind.

justxcherri
08-05-2007, 09:07 PM
I am still reading the manga to this day (once a month is TORTUREEEE)
but the noncanon anime story line was PRETTY annoying.

Yes, they are probably gonna be used as sacrifices.....for the Stone or something even more powerful I guess.

so.....I wonder when Ed is going to go for a relationship with Winry eh? eh?

oooo i hope he does get with winry...lol :p

justxcherri
08-05-2007, 09:11 PM
yesh i c wht u mean about als soul rejecting the armour...the manga is BY FAR ssoo better than the anime...AND the story plot from the manga is better too, much more trauma n drama

Athos
08-06-2007, 04:47 AM
The anime made me shed a tear for Nina and Hughes. It was cheap and sudden but the anime managed to move me. They took the manga and exploited it the best they could, and for that Im grateful.

But the manga cracks me up! It is so easy to follow and much more entertaining. Action packed and a plot that actually makes sense >.> Character development everywhere... twists and backstabs on every corner... Its amazing what a decent plot can do for a manga.

Sniper
08-06-2007, 06:28 AM
Ugh...Justxcherri, please try to keep your language-mangling to a minimum. It's a forum, so you don't need to worry about getting your message out quickly. Use that extra time to make sure you have good spelling, grammar, and punctuation. I doesn't take much effort, so please try. I'm not a mod, so this is just a request from a fellow member and anime fan.

And yeah, I almost never cry, but the Hughes thing really got me. I didn't actually cry, but I was damn close. He was my favorite character (when he wasn't acting like a retard). I hated how they just tacked him in in the movie. He served no purpose. He was also an *******.

tsunade666
08-08-2007, 01:07 PM
hmm is the anime different from the manga and is the manga greater than the anime if its greater in story maybe I should also add it to reading list:D

Grawr
08-08-2007, 04:31 PM
I only watched the anime but I am planning on reading the manga.

Do they both end the same? The manga and anime?

Athos
08-08-2007, 05:07 PM
They both follow the same plot with variants here and there. Little by little, the anime and the manga start to diverge... its really hard to pinpoint where do they part ways from each other because there really isnt a specific chapter. After Hughes die you can safely say they are no longer going with the same plot. Currently the FMA manga is still ongoing and with no signs of ending anytime soon.

If you've watched the anime and are planning on taking the manga path... well, read the whole thing... it can get really messy if you dont keep an open mind and ignore many facts that the anime made up in order to give it a reasonable conclusion. Its easy to mix up the plots.

Herr_Secrets
08-08-2007, 06:13 PM
The anime and manga is different. I detest the movie.. well I liked it --- not so well at the ending.
I hope the manga doesnt have that kind of ending following the anime's/movie's idea X__X.

I liked the anime though.. it scares me to see the Elric's mom as they transmuted her @___@.

Sniper
08-09-2007, 01:23 AM
Yeah, they're pretty different. The manga's better in my opinion.

israellaa__x3
08-09-2007, 03:20 AM
I still don't understand why the anime made me cry, but it did. When I watch the episodes with Nina and Hughes again it still makes me cry.

Yup, seen all the episodes and movie.. the movie was pointless. I don't think I should've wasted time trying to find it.

I think I've read all the chapters released so far. (73, correct?) The manga is still going.. I only wish it were released faster. At least the chapters are long. Monthly release.. if I'm not mistaken. (:

FoRgOtTeN38
08-09-2007, 03:26 AM
i like fma
but i cant agree of the anime being #1 in japan
i mean its good but it aint that good???
i think code geass is far better?
but i guess since really young ppl watch anime the most fma appeals to them better
anywayz i hate the parts that spend 5 minutes saying the same thing
"o for my friend i will die blah blah blah"- naruto
"for my brother he did this and that and i love him and i will die and..." - fma
JUST FIGHT AND DIE AND WHATEVER i mean it irritates me

Sachimoon
08-09-2007, 04:58 AM
hey. well im a BIG FMA Fan....i´ve seen 12 times each episode, n im currently readin' the manga...
n i have the movie!!!:D
i almost cry when i bought it:)

FateStayNight
08-09-2007, 05:38 AM
Well I'd like to say that i am psyched for the next chapter to be released!

*Spoiler Alert Stop reading this post if you're not reading the manga*




I bad for Hawk-Eye in the fact that she can't tell anyone about the first Homonculus. And boy was that a shock when i found out who that was (i'm sparing anyone who is reading this by accident). Does anyone have an idea when the next chapter will be released?

memo_1000
08-09-2007, 08:24 AM
i have read all the chapters so far and i can't wait for the next one to come out, do anybody kwnos when it's going to be relased

tsunade666
08-09-2007, 10:23 AM
so basically their different the manga is great like the anime but more accurate?
then I'l better start reading it hehehe :lol::lol:

tsunade666
08-09-2007, 10:25 AM
wait a minute this is a monthly release OMG just like the 666 satan another long wait for a new chapter :mad:

anomia_grey
08-09-2007, 11:08 AM
Well, the movie wasn't all that bad, I liked how well they managed to recreate the atmosphere of 1920s Germany. Of course, movie Al is absolutely annoying, without any memory or mark of what had happened in the previous four years, without any of the sorrows and feelings and thoughts tht defined Al to us, he was simply an unnervingly good alchemist that lurks somewhere at the back of the plot. On the other hand, they managed to produce a pretty well written Ed-centered plot, character development well emphasysed.

To my opinion, what killed the movie was the climax... they could have at least given that Eckhart woman a better motivation. I mean, let's be reasonable, she manages to infiltrate into the National Socialist Party(did I call it right?) and manipulate its members into helping her fullfill her personal occult conspiracies, arrange for Envy to be caught,conceive a portal without any knowledge of alchemy whatsoever(ok I'm not that sure she did that, but I'm damn sure she knew the incantation to merge Envy into the portal), basicly move a great number of characters like pawns into turning her fantasies into reality, and THEN, of all reasons, she chooses to try and invade/destroy "Shambala" simply because "the people in this world are different, I don't get them. So they should DIE". Riiiight.

Sorry if my English is shabby (it's not my native language) and my ranting rather nonsensical. I'm just glad I got that out :))

By the way, i found it quite bitter that after 51 episodes and a whole movie the nicest thing Ed manages to say about Winry is that "she's the best automail mechanic ever." But then again, she struggled for an entire episode to get him to appreciate her automail, so I guess it's gotta mean something. Hope MangaWinry has more luck :))

*only 3 days to the manga update....PLEASE LET IT BE SO.... *

Athos
08-09-2007, 02:05 PM
By the way, i found it quite bitter that after 51 episodes and a whole movie the nicest thing Ed manages to say about Winry is that "she's the best automail mechanic ever."*

QFT

*Rika*
08-09-2007, 04:21 PM
the next chapter is released on the 11th i think

Jaina
08-09-2007, 05:02 PM
I always find it odd that the anime differs from the manga in such a way. Love them both though regardless. FMA was one of the sadest anime's I watched and the film made a good over all ending. Manga's are slow to be released in the shops here so I startd reading online and was expecting it to go like the anime...but Bradley's son is evil!? Never saw that coming. I hope the plot steps up a pace or two, seems like the last chapter nothing much happened. I know they're building a story but it takes sooo long to release them still :3 I just hate waiting.

israellaa__x3
08-09-2007, 05:21 PM
The EdxWin in the manga was so much better than the anime. -_-

Reading FMA once a month makes me forget where the plot is.. Bradley's son is disturbing, but I really want to find out more.

The only thing that happened in Chapter 73 was them outwitting Kimbly.. I believe.

Ditrich_pl
08-10-2007, 11:18 AM
buuuu why we must wait so long for new chapters

PineApple
08-10-2007, 04:01 PM
Because of FMA I got interested in anime and manga. :)

Athos
08-10-2007, 04:29 PM
I cant really tell. Ive read a lot of mangas so far, but nothing comes to mind right now.

Right now, I honestly think the FMA manga is the best Ive read so far. In many ways.

zmjjmz
08-10-2007, 04:32 PM
Well, just for general info, the chapter RAWs are released on the 12th of every month (well, at least since I've started reading it...) Also, they tend to be around 40 pages of good quality manga, so it's ot surprising they come out once a month...
also, in chapter 73, Al's body called his soul back, which means that it's probably nearby...

israellaa__x3
08-10-2007, 06:35 PM
I will actually wait for FMA chapters to come out. Like zmjjmz, they are worth waiting for.

Though I can be rather impatient.

Yess. I would like to see Al encounter his body again. :o -cough-unlikethemovie-cough- It was really strange though, I wonder what really happened..

iykagome
08-10-2007, 07:29 PM
Well the anime seem to be good to see in motion as well the manga is awesome beign action pack,,,,,but the wait is so long so i guess it worth the wait.

KishiEatWorld
08-10-2007, 07:37 PM
I want to see what happens next chapter, i want to see more of Pride. Also it should be interesting when they translate the book Scar has.

anomia_grey
08-10-2007, 09:22 PM
I can't wait for the day Ed admits he loves Winry (without feeling the urge to recite Mendeleev's Table :D) *cough*shallowfangirl*cough*

it's great the way the plot is so much more complex than in the anime... man will we be seeing fireworks when the Amestris-wide alchemical circle is set into action >:} *makes a run for the popcorn* oh wait 30 more chapters. damn...

anomia_grey
08-11-2007, 08:59 PM
um... if anyone's noticed any chap 74s (raw or cooked) running around shouting "HAHAAA ANOMIA-GREY HASN'T READ ME YET!!" please post the link to the bugger around here....I'm completely lost :((

J.T.
08-11-2007, 09:02 PM
I hope he doesn't love her... For her sake... She would be better off with Al. More parts to fix :D.

shadow shuriken95
08-11-2007, 10:58 PM
Well, yeah, but by saying it, it adds some more emotional moments. Not that I care, go ahead and fight and die, that's what i say. But um, does the story get really good in the later chapters? I'm only on chapter 44, I just started two months ago.

Sachimoon
08-12-2007, 05:44 AM
WTF!!!
how come there're some people, sayin that they want Winry with Al?

that would be wrong she's older(1 year though) but still, she's older, and besides, she already said that she loves Ed!!!!!

she won't change her mind all of the sudden...NO!!!

*an angry EdXWinry Fangirl*:mad:

israellaa__x3
08-12-2007, 03:04 PM
Other people are entitled to their opinion. o-O; No need to get so worked up over this. I am a EdxWinry fan as well..

anomia_grey
08-12-2007, 06:24 PM
yeah, taking into consideration that the anime/manga discrepances leave a lot of room for speculation, and that nothing is certain, we should all have our say! I, for one, am an EdxNoah fan!:D

*gets smashed in the head by a shower of wrenches*

israellaa__x3
08-12-2007, 07:11 PM
But I must say... I DESPISE Noah.

:]

Good day. -throws wrench over her shoulder-

Sniper
08-12-2007, 08:55 PM
she's older(1 year though)

umm...a 1 year age difference doesn't matter. If it was like 10 years that would be different, but 1 year is inconsequential.

Sachimoon
08-13-2007, 03:11 AM
I don't care about Noah, she's a zero on the left....:lol:

i know 1 year it's not a big difference, i just put that cause i wanted to make some controversy, and make people to give their opinion.

and it seems that it worked.:thumbup:

but as i said before, winry and ed are meant to be!!!

:p

Sachimoon
08-13-2007, 03:30 AM
i know.... 1 year it's nothing
cause i've dated with people 2 years younger than me.

i said that because i just wanted to make people to post as much as possible...lol...my bad?:D

israellaa__x3
08-13-2007, 04:14 PM
Winry and Al isn't impossible.. after all, after reading the latest chapter, there's a possibility Al may return to his old body.

anomia_grey
08-14-2007, 08:24 AM
*rubbs her forehead*

by the way everything's possible, and since the manga and anime differ so much, of course I think Ed/Winry will come to life... we'll just have to wait and see, arakawa will probably hit us with something really unexpected... AND IT WON'T BE A WRENCH DAMMIT!

(ok that was random I know)

ion
08-14-2007, 09:36 AM
i am really curios with the ending with this manga and I don't think in the end they will find the cure for Al :(
love match? hmmm windy and ed/ al with the chinese costume girl **i forgot his name**

Fimsen
08-14-2007, 04:27 PM
the same here, I'm really really curios to how is all going to end :)
and of course i hope winry and ed will get together in the end but you never know.
now all we can do is wait and see :P (sorry my bad english)

*Rika*
08-14-2007, 05:00 PM
does anyone know when the next chapter will be released?

SilverKunai
08-14-2007, 05:12 PM
Its monthly...

So probably sometime during the 20-30 of August.

*Rika*
08-14-2007, 06:36 PM
thanks :)

*Rika*
08-15-2007, 04:12 PM
heres a topic. what role do you think the human sacrafices have in that father persons plan?

J.T.
08-15-2007, 04:14 PM
To create the ultimate Philosophers stone?


No, wait, it's something bigger, way bigger. To revive his wife.

Athos
08-15-2007, 04:39 PM
I... dont think its gonna be any other way than winry/ed. The manga is already very conservative when it comes to romance, I dont think the girl will have time to change her mind.

israellaa__x3
08-15-2007, 07:02 PM
Chapter 74 is out on the main site. :D

-dances-

I'm kind of confused.. mostly because I forgot the past chapters. xD

Hoenheim met the Homunculus in a flask..?! I'm very confused. -goes back to read past chapters-

The code between Riza and Roy was pretty good though. Now he knows about Bradley's son. Bah.

I wonder if Ed is gonna look like that grown up. ;3

J.T.
08-15-2007, 07:47 PM
I seems that Hoenheim is merely a host for the real Homunculus.

shadow shuriken95
08-15-2007, 08:07 PM
Man, now the next new chapter is gonna be out when school starts again. This really sucks. Oh well, chap 74 was a decent one, good enough for me.

Cross
08-15-2007, 08:16 PM
I seems that Hoenheim is merely a host for the real Homunculus.

no..the 'Father' hohenheim isn't the real hohenheim. hes a copy of some sort that just looks like hohenheim. I really cant imagine what the connection between "father" and hohenheim is but maybe that homunculus in the flask became "father" somehow?

israellaa__x3
08-15-2007, 09:42 PM
no..the 'Father' hohenheim isn't the real hohenheim. hes a copy of some sort that just looks like hohenheim. I really cant imagine what the connection between "father" and hohenheim is but maybe that homunculus in the flask became "father" somehow?

Well, the chapter ended with
the homunculus saying he would give Hohenheim power.. Earlier in the chapter Hohenheim said his master had taken lots of blood from him or something like that.

The homunculus took the shape of Hohenheim using his blood somehow? Maybe..

The anime is making me confuse the manga with it. Dx Did the manga state how homunculus are made? -feels dumb-

SilverKunai
08-15-2007, 10:16 PM
The anime differs off from the manga entirely. Only the beginning is similar. So if you want to find about the manga through the anime, it won't work. You'll just get confused more.

Onna_Otaku
08-16-2007, 01:55 AM
i think the manga is better, because A) it's still going and B) it explains a lot more (at least i think it does). the anime's really quick and i hate the ending. but i think the manga's going to end nicely...hopefully...

israellaa__x3
08-16-2007, 01:57 AM
-won't bother to reread chapters-

xD

Hmm the manga is finally moving again. Past few chapters have been somewhat dull.

SilverKunai
08-16-2007, 02:15 AM
At least we saw Pride. That's good enough for me.

Cross
08-16-2007, 06:28 PM
did the anime ever show pride?

Dark Schneider
08-16-2007, 06:34 PM
In the anime the Fuhrer was Pride.

Wrath was that kid that doesn't even exist in the manga.

And Sloth was Ed's mom.

God I almost forgot how retarded the anime was.

Athos
08-16-2007, 06:49 PM
It wasnt retarded... It was just... different. Of course, if you take a look at the manga's plot and then the anime's, yeah the anime looks like an abomination of reality.

But its just an illusion, they both make sense in their own way... Since the manga is a lot more reasonable and detailed, it makes the anime look stupid and simple. Its not really true, the anime was... interesting and very well made, but its charm will go away if you take one look at the manga.

Dark Schneider
08-16-2007, 07:56 PM
Jobbing out all the homunculus by saying they are weakened by their bones = retarded.

The only way anyone can possibly appreciate the anime is if they haven't read the manga.

The manga enlightens you to the epic fail that is the anime.

Athos
08-16-2007, 08:32 PM
I agree on the manga being in a whole other league when it comes to plot. Its superb. Thats why I think comparing the manga to the anime plotwise is really unfair. I know the anime isnt that bad. Its just that the manga is spectacular.

Tensa Zangetsu
08-16-2007, 10:10 PM
I thot the anime was good just not as good as the manga actually not even close but it wasnt bad. But making a character named sloth?!? isnt that an animal? and why did the crimson alchemist team up with Greed? Anyways, the anime ended already? im watching it in english on Adult swim. i dont care if u spoil the anime so hows it end?

Athos
08-16-2007, 10:34 PM
Confusing and unsatisfactory. But happy!

*Rika*
08-16-2007, 11:20 PM
one thing that i didnt get is why envy decided to turn into a dragon in the anime

(lol xazax)

Athos
08-16-2007, 11:29 PM
Later on the movie tells that to go through the gate you need to be able to withstand tremendous pressure. Taken dragon skin takes Longinus lances to be pierced (Laughter), Envy figured he should turn into one in order to go to the other world. But when he got to the other side it turns out no alchemy was allowed... and was unable to turn into something else.

shadow shuriken95
08-16-2007, 11:32 PM
There's a lot of stuff that I don't get in the anime.

Athos
08-16-2007, 11:39 PM
Yeah... I guess they'd rather leave us with question marks and half assed explanations instead of a reasonable plot.

israellaa__x3
08-17-2007, 03:32 AM
Sloth is one of the 7 deadly sins.. that's what the homunculus are named after.

Ehh, I'll put a spoiler tag just in case. The anime ending was lame. The movie made it worse. I mean, the ending was alright and had a sense of hope and all that. But the movie screwed that up. Big time.

Why would the Fuhrer keep the skull?! The homunculus-scared-by-bones thing was retarded. Pride being the Fuhrer's son is much more interesting. :P

Anime Wrath and Sloth was pretty lame. Especially Sloth. Wrath turned out to be somewhat decent in the movie. Ehh, the Envy-dragon was weird. Well, his fault.

Also, the movie killed what little EdxWin there was in the anime. Me = not happy

D:

Pansori
08-17-2007, 04:28 AM
But making a character named sloth?!? isnt that an animal?

Sloth is just a fancy way of saying lazy.

whether or not the anime or manga is better I've read a lot of posts on another forum where several people said they prefer the anime over the manga because it adds more emotion. Personally I think its vice versa.

I love the anime and the manga. The ending for the anime was frustrating, but bittersweet. I also think it's better to enjoy the two as separate entities.

death incarnate
08-17-2007, 04:33 AM
the anime has more emotion because you can hear and see what they are saying and doing. i watched the anime first and i thought it was great, than i stumbled unto the manga and i was like wow it so much better. i feel the most emotional part of the anime was when hughes died because you could hear his daughters voice during his funeral.

tsunade666
08-17-2007, 12:59 PM
I haven't read the manga just the anime is their a difference between two :confused:
:eban::eban::eban:

israellaa__x3
08-17-2007, 03:44 PM
There's a huge difference between the two. :/

It's like 2 completely different stories. The plots differ at the beginning. xD


Ah, don't remind me. I cry every time I watch Hughes die in that episode. D:

Pansori
08-17-2007, 05:28 PM
I haven't read the manga just the anime is their a difference between two :confused:
:eban::eban::eban:

There is a huge difference. There were changes from the beginning, but the big changes start to happen around the time they go to that automail city.
The only similiarities are the characters, and even that is different.

Onna_Otaku
08-17-2007, 07:20 PM
Sloth is one of the 7 deadly sins.. that's what the homunculus are named after.

Ehh, I'll put a spoiler tag just in case. The anime ending was lame. The movie made it worse. I mean, the ending was alright and had a sense of hope and all that. But the movie screwed that up. Big time.

Why would the Fuhrer keep the skull?! The homunculus-scared-by-bones thing was retarded. Pride being the Fuhrer's son is much more interesting. :P

Anime Wrath and Sloth was pretty lame. Especially Sloth. Wrath turned out to be somewhat decent in the movie. Ehh, the Envy-dragon was weird. Well, his fault.

Also, the movie killed what little EdxWin there was in the anime. Me = not happy

D:

yeah, the little edXwinry stuff didn't make me happy either. the manga has much more edXwinry than the anime ever did

shadow shuriken95
08-17-2007, 11:56 PM
Has it been confirmed what human sacrifices are in the manga? I'm only on chap 53. If not, I think that it means:
That that person is a good choice to turn into a hommunclus just like Fuher was. Just a wild guess.

anomia_grey
08-18-2007, 09:19 AM
Spoilers: please highlight to read

I don't think Father needs more Homonculi...anyway it hasn't become clear yet. What Father's plan is, and why he needs Wrath as Fuhrer for it, has become a bit clearer (no you don't get any spoilers from me :devil:) but we still have no idea what he actually wants to obtain by it.

Btw, about the Homonculi, some of them are made by simply introducing the Philosophers Stone secreted by Father into the body of a living human (GreedII, Wrath) though I think some of them were build around a Stone. We still have no clue how Gluttony, Lust were made...We know Envy contains the stone created at the destruction of Xerxes, and I think also the bodies. I neverreally got how.

Now on my appreciation of the manga/anime: the anime rocked my sox, and without it I would probably have never approached the manga. I agree with Athos, when you look at it from the manga perspective it's nothing but a deformed version of the manga, but it makes sense, and in the end both deal with the angst and feelings of the characters in unique and equally rewarding ways. I loved anime! Sloth, and thought it was a great way to make Ed face the worst of his fears. And as fafetched as the movie was, I appreciated the way the historical context was respected and taken advantage of. From Fritz Lang to the Thule Society to every little Longinus spear *lol*. I already stated elsewhere in this thread what I think is wrong with it. Oh, nevermind.

PS: has anyone else read chapter 74 ?(except zmjjmz :D) I love 23, I can sense the promice of an awesome character *runs to start writing epic fanfics :devil:*

Acidrain
08-18-2007, 09:29 AM
hmmmm...I cant wait till ed and winry hook up *wink wink*

Bow chica wow wow XD

mizu-genkaku
08-18-2007, 09:54 AM
i have finished the anime but just started on the manga...the main antagonists are different..

zagman505
08-18-2007, 10:56 AM
yeah, i'm up to date with the manga, but don't know whether it would be worth it for me to take the time to go watch the anime... and yay for edxwinry! =D

hallow_dog
08-18-2007, 04:34 PM
Has it been confirmed what human sacrifices are in the manga? I'm only on chap 53. If not, I think that it means:
That that person is a good choice to turn into a hommunclus just like Fuher was. Just a wild guess.

dude yes there is but none have happend ever, ever since that one case, all the others were failurs

israellaa__x3
08-18-2007, 11:20 PM
Watch the anime if you don't mind it completely differencing from the manga. ;P

Acidrain
08-19-2007, 04:11 AM
The manga is becoming quite confusing...

israellaa__x3
08-19-2007, 05:07 AM
It's confusing for me since I haven't read it in so long. :/ I forget what happened in the past chapters.. and what the anime added itself. o-O;

Acidrain
08-19-2007, 05:32 AM
It's confusing for me since I haven't read it in so long. :/ I forget what happened in the past chapters.. and what the anime added itself. o-O;

Yeah me too XD

shadow shuriken95
08-19-2007, 07:32 PM
Pity it only comes out monthly.... we have to wait so damn long for the next chapter!

Manhunter098
08-20-2007, 06:21 AM
Well at least the chapters are long. I can wait a month if Im guaranteed over 30 pages a chapter.

Necrosis
08-20-2007, 09:59 PM
I think father is trying to become like truth (the guy at the gate). Truth seems to know everything and is like a god. I think father is trying to get the same power.

Acidrain
08-20-2007, 10:14 PM
Hmm...possibly...I just wonder what his connection to hohenheim is

zmjjmz
08-21-2007, 02:59 AM
The theories i know on his connection with Hoho is that he either split off of Father (hoho did) or that Father did something or the HintF or Father is the HintF... and made Hoho immortal because hoho is obviously 23...

Acidrain
08-21-2007, 04:11 AM
ummm...yeeeaaaaaah

Megabuster
08-22-2007, 06:39 PM
well hoho definatly has a connection to father, i think there will be sometype of clash between the two(intelectual clash not fighting) but thos are just my thought.

shadow shuriken95
08-22-2007, 08:25 PM
Has anyone ele noticed tah the elric brothers lose a lot? I mean, it's good that they lose sometimes, but it seems that they need too much help....

Megabuster
08-22-2007, 08:26 PM
Well, the manga really isnt about the combat( as good as it is) its about the plot so its not surprising that they lose a lot.

Acidrain
08-22-2007, 08:28 PM
Agreed megabuster...but man...the movie really bummed me out...

Megabuster
08-22-2007, 08:30 PM
The movie was alright but it kinda pissed me off to.

Acidrain
08-22-2007, 08:32 PM
yeah...WHAT ABOUT WINRY DAMMIT!? DAMN THOSE SELFISH ELRIC BROTHERS!

Megabuster
08-22-2007, 08:39 PM
At least there is some winry action in the manga.

Acidrain
08-22-2007, 08:43 PM
hehehe yeah!:thumbup:

Megabuster
08-22-2007, 08:44 PM
Winry even said that she loves Ed so i wouldnt be surprised if they get hitched at the end of the manga.(thats if Ed is alive at the end of the manga)

Acidrain
08-22-2007, 08:48 PM
man...Im a dude and I like all this lovey dovey crap...maybe I should read some like romance mangas...would that effect my masculinity a lot? XD

Megabuster
08-22-2007, 08:50 PM
No, i read a lot of that lovey dovey crap too and it hasn affected my masulinity........much.

Acidrain
08-22-2007, 08:51 PM
XD...MUCH...ok...maybe ill check em out....

Megabuster
08-22-2007, 08:53 PM
Try ichigo 100%(altho th ending might piss you off) Mxo,Tu love ru, etc etc

Acidrain
08-22-2007, 08:55 PM
ichigo 100% is over? But I here so much about it! ok...whatever

Megabuster
08-22-2007, 08:55 PM
ya but its still a good read, if you want to try the genre out.

Acidrain
08-22-2007, 08:58 PM
Which would you say is the best out of all of them/most read?

Megabuster
08-22-2007, 08:59 PM
If you like action too then Mxo, if you like humor the Tu love Ru, but just hardcore funny romance then it has to be ichigo 100%

Sakura74
08-23-2007, 02:05 AM
i like the manga and anime! i haven't seen the movie yet!

Megabuster
08-23-2007, 03:48 AM
wtf, are talking about FMA? Well the movie is a downer, i might as well tell you now.

blacpanda
08-23-2007, 04:11 AM
wtf, are talking about FMA? Well the movie is a downer, i might as well tell you now.

About the movie, i personally hated it (or just the ending really). I like happy endings and hate sad endings; that's just me. Man, i was really pulling for the Ed and Winry pair.

It better work out in the manga. One of the main reasons I like the manga better is because it is different from the anime. The anime's ending was so complicated.

sickleye
08-23-2007, 04:25 AM
So far the manga has split further and further away from the tv series. So It would be safe to assume that the conclusion to the manga will differ from the movie.
Seeing how the manga has continued I think we can trust the author to come up a a good way to end it. (but that is a long way from now....)

Acidrain
08-23-2007, 07:07 AM
man...winry better hook up with ed man..

Pansori
08-23-2007, 07:40 PM
It's just a matter of time bfore Winry and Ed hook up. I'm more worried about Mustang and Hawkeye. Has he not seen her pining away for him in her usual stoic manner all these years? But if Selim finds out she's spilled the beans, and her life is put in danger I think we'll be seeing more of his feelings for her.

Megabuster
08-23-2007, 08:43 PM
Ed and winry are set in stone right now, especially since every time any body mentions it he gets all flustered. But hawkeye and Mustang seem a lot more complicated, we wont see much of them till much later on in the story.

Acidrain
08-24-2007, 12:14 AM
I agree...oh well...i bet one of them is gonna die soon...its just a feeling I have

Pansori
08-24-2007, 01:24 AM
AHHHH!!! Acidrain, don't say that...
I've been worried about Hawkeye since her encounter with Pride. :(

I hope Mustang doesn't realize his love for Hawkeye as she DIES... T.T

blacpanda
08-24-2007, 01:36 AM
AHHHH!!! Acidrain, don't say that...
I've been worried about Hawkeye since her encounter with Pride. :(

I hope Mustang doesn't realize his love for Hawkeye as she DIES... T.T

In my guess and i'm not trying to be negative, but i think Mustang is going to realize he loves her while she is dying (or around that time)

Acidrain
08-24-2007, 01:52 AM
hehehe...yeah...even though I dont want her to die...that would be crazy!

Pansori
08-24-2007, 02:42 AM
In my guess and i'm not trying to be negative, but i think Mustang is going to realize he loves her while she is dying (or around that time)

I know... I actually agree with you... I think I'm just in denial over the whole issue. Hawkeye is my favorite female character.

Acidrain
08-24-2007, 02:56 AM
maybe pride will kill her and then mustang will be engulfed with rage and will fight him with all of his power!

Megabuster
08-24-2007, 03:00 AM
If hawkeye dies i will be pissed

HellecticMojo
08-24-2007, 03:11 AM
If hawkeye dies i will be pissed

yeah Hughes was enough, no need for another heartbreak.

Acidrain
08-24-2007, 03:24 AM
Then who do you suposse SHOULD die in the manga?

HellecticMojo
08-24-2007, 03:32 AM
The Homunculi of course! Maybe Scar dying doing something heroic.

Acidrain
08-24-2007, 03:33 AM
wow...scar I think will die...but come on...everyone wants the bad guy to die...

Megabuster
08-24-2007, 08:32 PM
Naw, scar doenst need to die. If mustang or hawkeye died that would be even bigger than lt colonel hughes. But who i think is going to die is marco and the general from up north(forgot her name)

Acidrain
08-24-2007, 11:14 PM
the blond woman? Yeah...i forgot her name too...

Pansori
08-25-2007, 12:44 AM
I just remember her name is Armstrong... I've been trying to remember what her first name is, but I'm too lazy to look it up. :D

Acidrain
08-25-2007, 12:45 AM
hahaha...join the club XD

Pansori
08-25-2007, 12:51 AM
You guys inspired me... I looked it up, her name is Major General Olivier Milla Armstrong.

Acidrain
08-25-2007, 12:52 AM
AAAAAAAH! NO! UR NOT PART OF THE CLUB ANYMORE! *crosses arms*

Pansori
08-25-2007, 12:54 AM
I did it for you, dammit!!! *bursts into tears, runs into room, SLAMS door*

Acidrain
08-25-2007, 01:10 AM
XD anyways....scar is a strange character...

Pansori
08-25-2007, 03:48 PM
Scar is an intriguing character. I don't get him. Is he a good guy? Bad guy? What happened to his killing alchemists spree? He's all mixed up. And I wonder if it's possible, could he be the 5th character that Father needs? I know most people are assuming it's Mustang, but maybe that's too obvious.

blacpanda
08-25-2007, 06:14 PM
Yeah, about the 5 people father needs, does anyone know what it is for? Did i miss something.

Pansori
08-26-2007, 01:20 AM
No one really knows what Father's intentions are or what he needs the 5 people for. But I believe people are leaning on the human sacrifice theory.

HellecticMojo
08-26-2007, 03:22 AM
and it appears from the diagram that they must be the components to access the circle at the same time maybe.

I'm really curious about Hohenheim, since the name "Father" implies the creator, with this idea Hohenheim's master in his slave days is the "Father." If so then the issue arrives of why they look the same.

What exactly is Pride's power anyway? Since the manga loosely (very loosely) follow science ie: greed's armor made from carbon, I really can't find explanation for his power. What does it control? It can't be shadow, since shadow is merely an absense of light. Dark matter?

Acidrain
08-26-2007, 07:22 AM
sigh...idk...father is really confusing right now...

HEADMASTER
08-26-2007, 05:20 PM
oh this topic just got demoted?
I remember in the old forum fma was on the main page then

im wondering if the anime came first before the manga, the manga is so slow

Alberio
08-26-2007, 05:24 PM
I saw the manga at Barnes n' Nobles the other day, it said that the manga came before the anime, as many seem to lol

HEADMASTER
08-26-2007, 05:34 PM
yeah most anime came from manga
ei why is the anime way ahead of the manga

Alberio
08-26-2007, 05:45 PM
Thats probably just the chapters OM has uploaded, because, as far as I know FMA's manga is farther than the anime.

J.T.
08-26-2007, 07:03 PM
It's not ahead, anime just doesn't follow manga very well (read: at all).

Pansori
08-26-2007, 09:36 PM
Well, the anime is over, and it's almost totally different from the manga.

I kinda wish they'll redo the anime and make it more faithful. I want see some of the characters animated, like Ling Yao, Mei Chan, that Amstrong chick...

HellecticMojo: They haven't really discussed Pride's power yet, but it kind of looks like it may have something to do with shadows. I'm sure Arakawa will have a somewhat logical explanation as to what is behind his power. But honestly, I'm still wrapping my mind around the idea that Selim is Pride. oO
I had read a theory about it a long time ago, but it still threw me for a loop.

Megabuster
08-26-2007, 11:56 PM
yeah most anime came from manga
ei why is the anime way ahead of the manga

lol, bu really the anime basically has nothing to do with the manga except characters. Not to mention that it is way shorter.

Acidrain
08-27-2007, 05:02 AM
yeah...well...pride seems to be the strongest of the homunculie....and i wonder whats gonna happen with greed/Ling

Pansori
08-28-2007, 03:04 PM
I know, I wanna know what's going to happen with Greed as well! He's my favorite homunculi, and even if he wasn't Greed I loved Ling's character. It's around this time of month that I start getting antsy and wanting the next chapter to come out. :D

mizu-genkaku
08-29-2007, 11:34 AM
a lot of stuff are different from the anime and manga..but its really fun to read the manga and watch the anime..even if it's really not thaat connected

Acidrain
08-29-2007, 06:52 PM
...I wonder if ling is gonna return back to normal...

Pansori
08-29-2007, 10:57 PM
More than likely. He's a pretty wily character, and Greed said that Ling is just waiting for an opportunity to strike. In fact, at times it seems like Ling's the one in control. But anyway, we shall see.

Acidrain
08-29-2007, 11:24 PM
hmmm...I wonder whats gonna happen with ling and that little girl...they seem very mysteriouse...

Pansori
08-30-2007, 01:10 AM
Well Ling and that girl are siblings, and eventually they're going to duke it out over who gets to rule Xing. I'm guessing they'll share the power in the end.

Acidrain
08-30-2007, 01:32 AM
Possibly...idk...GOD! MAYBE THESE CONVERSATIONS WOULD BE BETTER IF FMA CAME OUT MORE OFTEN! lol

kg008
08-30-2007, 01:58 AM
I think Greed is infatuated with the idea of being emporer regardless if Ling takes control! so maybe they have agreed to work together on it!

Pansori
08-30-2007, 02:11 AM
Doubt it. Ling wouldn't let a dick like Greed take over and be emperor. No, Ling is going to become emperor, marry Ran Fan and live happily ever after. YAY!!
Acidrain: I would also love for FMA to come out more often, but if it became weekly than we won't get as much manga (40+ pages is a godsend). We just have to make good on what we got. :)

But speaking of which, I was looking over this last chp. again, and I suddenly noticed that the flashback was Father's dream. I also noticed the obvious time difference. I mean... I noticed that before, but it didn't click until now. So FMA is set around the early 1900s (I can't remember what the exact year is) but from the scene in father's dream it looked like the 1500s.

That means Hoho is super OLD! :eek:

Acidrain
08-30-2007, 05:47 AM
Oh yeah...now i remember...that was bizzare...he was like a brain in a jar! XD

Pansori
08-30-2007, 07:48 PM
Acidrain, I think me, you and Megabuster are the only ones who work at keeping this thread alive :(

I was skimming through this thread, and I'm surprised at how few people actually read the manga... but almost everyone has seen the anime.

PEOPLE, READ THE MANGA!!!! IT's GOOOOD!!! IT'S BETTER THAN THE ANIME!!!!

Acidrain
08-30-2007, 07:50 PM
A lot of the people think fma is wierd and stupid cus of the strange difference between them...a lot of them like the anime more...the manga is waaaaaaaay better people! READ IT!

Yamasta
08-30-2007, 07:55 PM
I read the manga, it just took me up to 2 months ago to realize the manga was still going, I'm trying to catch up. XD

Acidrain
08-30-2007, 08:12 PM
wow...nice lol

Pansori
08-31-2007, 12:57 AM
Gosh, I've talked to people who didn't even know FMA had a manga. o_O
It's almost a given that if there's an anime there's a manga.

Acidrain
08-31-2007, 01:15 AM
...has there EVER been an anime without a manga?

Pansori
08-31-2007, 02:55 AM
Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop spring to mind, but I think they came out with a manga for Bebop after the anime. The anime that I grew up watching, Robotech and Gatchaman were both mangaless as well. In fact, Robotech was a combination of three different animes, all of which did not come with a manga.
Robotech, by the way, is one of my top animes A little bit because of nostalgia, but mostly just because it's very good. And it's got a great love triangle.

I'm sure there are many more, but those are just a few that I'm aware of. :)

Acidrain
08-31-2007, 03:09 AM
ah..weeeeeeeell....ah XD

Pansori
08-31-2007, 04:37 AM
you're going to have to come up with something more imaginative than that. ;)

Acidrain
08-31-2007, 04:58 AM
sigh...idk dude...how long has it been since the last chapter?

Pansori
08-31-2007, 02:16 PM
too long... next chapter out on sept. 12, i think. that's like two more long looong weeks! T_T

PS. You do know I'm a girl, right? ;)

Yamasta
08-31-2007, 08:20 PM
Samurai champloo had two graphic novels...uh, back on topic...finally new chapter, but it's a long wait...

Acidrain
08-31-2007, 11:50 PM
yeah i know ur a girl lol I just say dude and man all the time...its infused into my language lol

anyways...yeah, theres a request in this forum that we have the samurai champloo manga on here...its the same plot (finding the sunflower samurai) but how they get there is waaaaaay different.,..aaanyways

Pansori
08-31-2007, 11:56 PM
yes, but isn't Samurai Champloo one of those shows that the manga was based off the anime? :confused:

Acidrain
08-31-2007, 11:57 PM
yep...man i loved samurai champloo...even though it only had 20 episodes...rurouni kenshin was cool too...anyways back on track...so...father was a little black shadow thingy in a jar?

Pansori
09-01-2007, 02:31 AM
I loved Samurai Champloo as well, but have some problems with the hip hop music. My favorite scene was when Mugen was in the water, dying, and they had that song playing in the background. I liked the song so much I ended up downloading it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rCNU9VHxfP4

Is that just not the greatest?!??!!

*ahem* back on topic... yes, apparently Father started off as a little black ball of mass, and it appears him and Hohenheim may go back several hundred years.

Acidrain
09-01-2007, 03:21 AM
I remember that episode!

and yeah...I wonder what powers hohenheim has...

Pffy108
09-01-2007, 05:40 AM
*scratches head* ... the last chapter was really confusing... what was that wierd black globe thing with a face...It's name was... Homunculus?.......can't wait an entire month!!! geez..

Acidrain
09-01-2007, 06:13 AM
Im pretty sure that was father Pffy108

Pansori
09-01-2007, 06:25 AM
Yeah, I think it's pretty safe to say it was Father. :)

But I was confused with this chapter, too. I had to go over it a second time to really get what was going on (beyond the Mustang/Hawkeye code talk).

Am I the only one that thought Little Hoho was a cutie? Adorable!!! :D

Acidrain
09-01-2007, 06:32 AM
Oh wait...if he was a humonculous...wouldnt that make HIM the orginal and not pride?

and im a dude so...i dont think he was cute lol

Pansori
09-01-2007, 06:48 AM
Oh, Acid, that is true. o_O
We all assumed that the black mass in the jar was father, but Pride did specifically say that he was the original Homunculus.
But on the same note, it seemed like the flashback was Father's dream...
you've thrown a monkey wrench into things, Acid.
Now I'm even more desperate for the next chapter to come out.

FMA is my favorite manga, so waiting for it is like agony to me.

Acidrain
09-01-2007, 06:54 AM
lol glad i could make a point (nobody ever listens to me)
hmm...maybe he just CALLED himself humonculous and never really WAS one...or maybe pride is the only SUCCESFUL humunculous and father is a failed project...or maybe pride is FATHER'S first created humuculous? lol idk

Pffy108
09-01-2007, 09:50 PM
lol, if u think about it, it gets more confusing..is father a homunculus that created other homunculuses?*scratches head again* confusing...

SilverKunai
09-01-2007, 09:54 PM
Closed..