CM: [Discussion] Minor Yoma and Awakened Beings (Part 2)

[Aurora]

The old thread is here (http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=8221)


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I don't see an Alicia/Beth thread [edit: I must be blind, eh?], and this is as good a place as any to dump this thought:

Regarding Alicia & Beth in chapters 95 & 96; it's possible that Beth managed to revert Alicia to human form and dump her consciousness back in before being converted by the Destroyer's spike. However, Alicia seemed to be defending Riful during Beth's transformation when there really shouldn't be a reason to.

Riful is the target of the Abyss Feeders, so Alicia shouldn't need an area clear of AFs, and even if she did it would be better to have Alicia's body move to a different location. It could be that the Destroyer has commandeered Alicia's body through Beth - and it simply destroyed all the Abyss Feeders since they were closer to Alicia. In which case Riful is in far more danger than previously, as Alicia won't attempt to preserve her own life at all - and Alicia with a massive speed increase (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/95/26/) from previously on top of it all.

I'd actually argue that Alicia/Beth belong to the Organization thread. Especially since Alicia and Beth aren't Awakened Beings or at least weren't. Though given current events I guess they probably do belong here as Beth is now a new type of monster like the Abyssal Feeders expect a "Messenger of Hell" as Abyssal Feeder discussion has been centralized here.

Raphaela commanding her minions to command Beth to command Alicia to kill Riful is kind of hard to believe. For one Raphaela supposedly has no consciousness now, she is just the Destroyer and the minions she sent also seem to have no consciousness either. This seems difficult to explain and doesn't really change things even if it's true. Either Beth is a minion and Alicia is out of control or they're both being controlled by a mindless destroyer. They're just monsters now in both explanations just one is simpler.

The Destroyer is said to possess no sense of self. It seems to have plenty of awareness of its surroundings though. And it possesses at least some form of judgement. It seemed to be holding back missile wave no. 2 when it could have just expended the entirety of its energy in a single continuous wave (launching missiles as soon as they are formed). It even changed from tentacle attacks (against Clare) to missile mode (for everyone in the area).

There's also that one missile hit against Beth. I didn't see any other javelins littering the area after she got hit. Not even other impact craters. If Beth had been surrounded by a few missiles I could believe that she got hit with a lucky shot. Seeing only one missile in her and no sign of other impact points suggests to me that the Destroyer was taking extra care in making sure that Beth got hit by launching a missile that could not be dodged. That could indicate that the Destroyer actually possesses enough intelligence to adapt an attack to various targets. Either that, or it's homing in on the strongest yoki sources and Clare's group (not strong enough yoki signature) along with Alicia (too fast to hit) were the only close targets that managed to dodge.

The Spawn seem to have a similar awareness. Not too sure if that's because the Destroyer programmed them (continue beyond the Destroyer's life), or because the Destroyer is remotely controlling them (die as soon as the Destroyer is out). In general the effect would be the same until the Destroyer is taken out, and may determine what Alicia will do if her going rogue is because of Beth being under the Destroyer's influence.

I don't see anything that shows it has a sense of judgment. The Destroyer was not holding back the second wave, but more likely it was just finished making a second batch of javelins to shoot out, since at the start of chapter 96 it had no javelins available. The Destroyer while probably the strongest being in Claymore still does have limitations. Everything it's doing is on instinct, it used tentacles vs Clare because Clare was close to it, nothing more than the intelligence of an animal or insect or even a plant.

Again with Beth we don't see any other missiles because it's a close up picture. You don't see any impact craters but the land is clearly messed up (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/96/14/).

I was wondering about the charge time for the attack myself. But from what little I can determine of the timing between it's awakening and first launch, the charge time is minimal at best. There seems to be enough of a time lapse that it could have generated wave 2 and launched it soon after Clare and company took out the first Destroyer spawn. Or at the very least in the middle of the fight (which seems to have lasted quite some time) with the rest of the 1st wave.

As for the tentacle attack, why did the Destroyer stop? If it was as mindless as stated (and seeking only destruction), than I figure it would continue the pressure. Clare isn't out of range since the tentacles actually hit the spot she vacated. It's right after she dodged that it changed to its missile attack. Granted she could have been at the extreme range at the beginning, but the whole set up is pretty suspicious.



That seems to be the natural state of the landscape of that area, with Beth's impact crater being the only visible damage I can discern. There's only one other section that may have had a missile impact (the little "cave" directly above her), but doesn't quite look right to be an impact crater. Besides, I figure for Beth to not be able to dodge something that she seems to have seen coming, she'd have to be the target of multiple closely packed missiles. There should be at least two other impact craters in very close proximity to Beth. Otherwise I'd have to say that the Destroyer had the most flukiest shot I've ever seen (if it wasn't guided in some way), coupled with the Organization having the crappiest luck ever to lose their ultimate weapon to one attack.

And isn't it strange that if there were other missiles that Yuma and Cynthia didn't run into anything? I'd figure that they should have encountered at least one of the Spawn (corpse or otherwise) on their way towards Beth.

Er... that is most definitely NOT the natural look of the land, especially since the Riful/Alicia fight took place near a forest area with an open plain slapped in the middle. You want to note destruction, first, take a look at this page (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/94/30/), and look at how THAT scene looks compared to the one BM put up. Then look at this page (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/95/18/). Aside from the lack of spikes that BM showed in the page he pulled up, the destruction looks very much the same, except the one that BM showed contained an even greater level of destruction. Those very cracks on the land where Beth was lodged are those 'craters' you were looking for.

And, no, it still isn't strange that no other 'missile' was found. Afterall, upon impact, all those 'missiles' would've immediately transformed into those giant 'kitties' and run amok where they stand before they fizzle out and die, just like what happened in that village (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/96/07/).

It could be for Beth's area. We already know that the area has natural crags (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/94/24/). Although its possible that the crags collapsed, but then I'd have to ask where Beth is in the middle of all that, if that was where Beth ended up.

In fact, the timing of Beth's hit seems to suggest that not only was she the last one hit, she was the furthest out from the Destroyer (assuming Cynthia and Yuma were high tailing it directly away from it).



I'll admit the landscape damage is a possibility, but the pics you showed and the area where Beth is are two different locations.



Yes, I figure they'd move to the closest living targets after shifting (and they seem to shift almost immediately after impact under usual circumstances). Who else is there in that area? Alicia, Dauf, and Riful as far as I can tell. Well, those three are busy with Abyss Feeders and apparently left the spawn javelins behind. Those spawn should have transformed and went after the closest targets they can sense (and it seems they can sense (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/95/12/) things even if their heads are blown clean off). If not Alicia's battle group (who were with Abyss Feeders), then they should wander off to the next targets, Cynthia and Yuma most probably - as they seem to be closer than Clare's company is. More than that, if Cynthia and Yuma arrived at Beth's position, that means they were generally drifting towards Alicia's group.

Now Cynthia and Yuma cleared out before their javelins could shift, and same goes for Alicia and that battle group. But any javelins around Beth should have shifted and moved on one of the two groups, and the ones Alicia ditched should have moved towards Cythia and Yuma if they were coming up. We didn't see any at Alicia's position (yet), and nothing intercepted Cynthia and Yuma on their way to Beth. Who else is in the area that would draw off the two groups of spawn? Clare seems to be too far out from both positions for the spawn to make their way there.

Renee is a possibility. I'm not too sure. But I sense there's something really strange going on here in regards to Beth, and possibly something even stranger regarding Alicia's group now that I think on it. Yes, it's a stretch. But in my opinion there may be some validity to it.

[Aegis]

It could be for Beth's area. We already know that the area has natural crags. Although its possible that the crags collapsed, but then I'd have to ask where Beth is in the middle of all that, if that was where Beth ended up.

In fact, the timing of Beth's hit seems to suggest that not only was she the last one hit, she was the furthest out from the Destroyer (assuming Cynthia and Yuma were high tailing it directly away from it).

I'll give you the crag and cliff in this case, albeit only up to a point. Afterall, the page BM showed, and the initial page where we saw Beth impaled, they're not consistent as the latter clearly shows absolute damage all around. And, well, Yagi likes to draw upturned rocks and cliffs in general. Walk around enough, somewhere along the way, they encounter another clidd. Therefore, you can't say when Beth got hit compared to everyone else in the scene, and I seriously doubt she was thrown so far away. More than likely, she was just hit in the same battle area, and the land we see was simply total, utter decimation.

I'll admit the landscape damage is a possibility, but the pics you showed and the area where Beth is are two different locations.

The point I'm making is NOT about locations, but that the damage and the upheavals you see in all those pages involve the land NOT having rounded craters on them, but have a bunch of upheavals, gashes, and crags on them. Those are the aftermath of Mary's rain of death. Thus, in other words, all that stuff you saw in BM's page was not natural, that was clearly the land ripped usunder.

Yes, I figure they'd move to the closest living targets after shifting (and they seem to shift almost immediately after impact under usual circumstances). Who else is there in that area? Alicia, Dauf, and Riful as far as I can tell. Well, those three are busy with Abyss Feeders and apparently left the spawn javelins behind. Those spawn should have transformed and went after the closest targets they can sense (and it seems they can sense things even if their heads are blown clean off). If not Alicia's battle group (who were with Abyss Feeders), then they should wander off to the next targets, Cynthia and Yuma most probably - as they seem to be closer than Clare's company is. More than that, if Cynthia and Yuma arrived at Beth's position, that means they were generally drifting towards Alicia's group.

Keep in mind what Clare said about these creatures: they will go after the nearest living organism they encounter. Safe bet that any creature of flesh and blood would do, so for all we care, they ended up eating a deer along the way. I mean, Raki and all the villagers were fair game.

Now Cynthia and Yuma cleared out before their javelins could shift, and same goes for Alicia and that battle group. But any javelins around Beth should have shifted and moved on one of the two groups, and the ones Alicia ditched should have moved towards Cythia and Yuma if they were coming up. We didn't see any at Alicia's position (yet), and nothing intercepted Cynthia and Yuma on their way to Beth. Who else is in the area that would draw off the two groups of spawn? Clare seems to be too far out from both positions for the spawn to make their way there.

There are more than enough explanations for this one. As you said before, Cynthia and Yuma, of all people, managed to escape those missiles, and the next time we see them, they're with Beth. You will also note that in all those pages which we do see either missiles or creatures, we don't see them actually travel and spread out. If that be the case, it means they just concentrate in the relative vicinity of their impact and not really bother going anywhere else, especially if they don't lock on to something flesh and blood and living. So what that means is that at the very least, even an injured Riful dragging Dauf by the hair should be fast enough to run far away before even the missiles change into kittens to take notice of them. From there, they either walk around aimlessly till they find something, or they just die in the proverbial thirty minute expiry. The village that Raki was on, those creatures pretty much all but disappeared themselves save for the spikes on his arm, and I really doubt human beings would be able to help feed those many missiles along with the many spikes those creatures would spit. Imagine if said missiles don't even have anything save for little scraps. Thus, other than Beth, moire than easily explained away as simply the creatures tried to do their business, then disappeared.

Renee is a possibility. I'm not too sure. But I sense there's something really strange going on here in regards to Beth, and possibly something even stranger regarding Alicia's group now that I think on it. Yes, it's a stretch. But in my opinion there may be some validity to it.

Well, Beth's head caved into her body, and the spike became half awakened Beth, half cat. Then we see Alicia acting all funny, and we discover that somehow, soul link was involved in keeping Alicia's awakening in check and Beth's transformation apparently as much a result of the two switching roles. So, yes, something funny has indeed happened to them. Just that it doesn't involve a bunch of Mary's missiles.

[ApokalypsKnight]

I'll give you the crag and cliff in this case, albeit only up to a point. Afterall, the page BM showed, and the initial page where we saw Beth impaled, they're not consistent as the latter clearly shows absolute damage all around.

Well, at this point my feelings regarding Beth's missile hit are pretty much moot. With Priscilla's arrival on the scene, it's possible that it was her presence that drew off whatever spawn that may have formed in Beth's, Cythia's, and Riful's areas.

Priscilla's path probably fell well to the south of Cynthia's and Riful's original positions while on a direct course to Beth. If Beth had multiple spawn in the area (and if they behave and sense things in the manner that I think they do), they would have sensed Priscilla coming up and moved to intercept.

Since the Spawns' corpses don't dissolve (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/96/27/) and Cynthia and Yuma didn't run into corpses or Priscilla along the way, it's likely that all the spawn plus Priscilla engaged far enough away from Cynthia's group that they didn't notice the battle (if there was one fought).

Unless Missile Wave 2 (which is primed and ready) starts exhibiting yoki/life-seeking tendencies I won't be sure [edit: (one way)] or another regarding Beth's hit. Besides, Clare and company may find a way to abort the second launch.


Well, Beth's head caved into her body, and the spike became half awakened Beth, half cat. Then we see Alicia acting all funny, and we discover that somehow, soul link was involved in keeping Alicia's awakening in check and Beth's transformation apparently as much a result of the two switching roles. So, yes, something funny has indeed happened to them. Just that it doesn't involve a bunch of Mary's missiles.

That's not the strangeness I was sensing. It had more to do with the fact that the spawn that should have been there were completely absent (no corpses, no encounters, and a possibility that they hadn't even impacted in the area). With Priscilla being there, she may have attracted them all while in transit to Beth. Since Priscilla seems to have been travelling in her base form, it may explain how the spawn were attracted away from Beth before Cynthia and Yuma got there.

In the end all of this probably doesn't matter, since I get the impression that Priscilla is abandoning the battlefield to pursue her own agenda. It's quite possible that she's not even going to bother engaging the Destroyer (which seems to be rooted to its spot). [Edit: I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing for Clare]

[Serafiel]

Hey, since i'm new here i see no posts about a claymore's body type, so i set up a new discussion :) sorry if it's done before.
anyway, i believe that the youma flesh and blood is inserted into somewhere in the abdomen. because 1) Claymores don't have menstruation. Can you imagine them wearing pads? 2) they can't reproduce, so that means their uterus is like taken out or something. 3) or it could be above the chest, that's where teresa showed the bandits, but i think the space above the boobs is really little and clarice's whole boob look relatively normal so...
i also believe that when clare took in teresa, she did not inherit her personality as this is not lamarckian evolution after all. what do you guys think?

[blackmagister]

I think it is the general belief that the abdomen/stomach area is where the yoma flesh is inserted. With all the things pointing to it like it never being shown and the incident with Father Vincent and Clare's bandages. We have a discussion on it here (http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=22669), but not a general discussion on Claymore bodies overall.

1. We don't know if they do or don't have menstruation, just because it isn't shown doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It might just not be focused on, we have no idea if Claymores need to pee either.
2. No idea if Claymores can reproduce or if wild Yoma can reproduce on their own.
3. Yes it is doubtful the stigmata is above the breast.

Clare inheriting Teresa's personality? That's not even part of Lamarck's theory of evolution. If Clare were to inherit Teresa's personality you would not need to use scientific principles to understand it, it would simply be because Teresa raised Clare for a small time. Clare's personality does not seem similar to Teresa's, Clare has similar values seen in her protection of Raki though.

[Serafiel]

i guess claymores pee and **** once every couple of days, since they eat little and rarely. i guess youmas can reproduce since they're an entirely new species, and they often take on human forms. but claymores can't because they're a hybrid, and most hybrids like mules can't reproduce either.

[blackmagister]

Claymores were not made by breeding humans and yoma together though. They were made by modifying humans with yoma flesh to give them yoma traits. They're still humans and unless the process to make them Claymores altered their reproductive organs they should still be able to mate with both humans and Claymores. Any children would be human not Claymore as well.

[Serafiel]

yeah but still youma blood flows through them. They've been genetically mutated for all we know. Like their hair and eye colour changed, and we know that's controlled by genes. So I really think being a claymore changes their genes (i'm a biology student), and so they cannot reproduce because it's not natural. GM food also can't reproduce

[jack4s]

from genetic point of view its impossible.
but being unable to have child could be another of organization myths and who would sleep whit claymore.

but we do not know how far apart are claymore and human, there is case of having cub between lion and leopard, that happened in one zoo.

[Lucis]

Well, one thing is for sure. Claymores can lactate. It's shown when Miata first appears, around Chapter 72 if I'm not wrong.

[blackmagister]

I have no idea on what sort of genetic principles but take even the mule example. It's possible that a human and claymore could have a kid because they are so genetically similar, but the kid itself would not be able to reproduce with humans, claymores or claymore/human hybrids.

Well, one thing is for sure. Claymores can lactate. It's shown when Miata first appears, around Chapter 72 if I'm not wrong.

No, Clarice does not show any signs she is lactating. All we see is Miata making the motion of sucking, but it does not mean she is actually drinking. Miata is after all mentally unstable, she wants to breast feed so even if Clarice doesn't have milk (which she probably doesn't) than Miata would still try to feed.

Also some biology 101, women don't randomly lactate. Only due to some disorder or through the natural process of pregnancy.

[russianvandam]

(not up to the latest chapter but still) Anyone's got any idea on what's the advantage of being the offensive type besides "none"?

[russianvandam]

yeah but still youma blood flows through them. They've been genetically mutated for all we know. Like their hair and eye colour changed, and we know that's controlled by genes. So I really think being a claymore changes their genes (i'm a biology student), and so they cannot reproduce because it's not natural. GM food also can't reproduce

Really now, then how do you explain the fact that their eyes return to their original colour when they take the suppression pills?

[HegemonKhan]

HK's Out-take:

*IMPORTANT NOTICE*

some of this is just my own speculation or an attempt at explanation/understanding of stuff, but some of the stuff is actual contental info from the manga as well.

please feel free or don't be shy to ask what's my speculation and what is found-shown in the manga as authentic-official, if you don't know and wanna know

*IMPORTANT NOTICE*

Organization's Annuals of Yoma Research

PRE-YOMA

1. Original Yoma

The original yoma is actually like a parasitic worm virus. It is unable to infect humans.

2. Altered Original Yoma

The Organization, in their objective to create weapons to destroy the Dragons of the other side they are fighting against in a war on the continent, start to genetically engineer the original yoma parasitic worm virus. They create an new altered strain of it and now it infects humans and mutates them into normal yoma (humanoid like yomas).

YOMAS

3. Normal Yomas (yoma mind)

They are humanoid in shape and size, however they are monsters and are usually superior to humans. However, they are far from powerful enough to take on the dragons and they also don't exactly obey or follow orders like humans, as they are monsters.

4. Claymores (or Silver Eyes=males or Silver-Eyed Witches=females) (human mind)

The Organization discovers that further "evolution" occurs. The normal yomas and humans are actually compatible with each other!

When a normal yoma eats a human, it gains:

*the ability to change its shape into that human
*that human's memories
*that human's knowledge
*that human's mannerisms/behaviors

When a human eats a normal yoma:

unknown

When the Organization implants human's flesh into a normal yoma:

unknown

When the Organization implants a normal yoma into a human:

Something extroadinary happens. A (somewhat) mutual symbotic merging occurs.

Think of the yoma as mitochondria (an organism that is able to produce energy, but unable to do much else). Think of the human as a cell (an organism that can do anything due to its nucleus and other structures in it, but is unable to power itself). Well, mitochondria and the cell found each other, and the cell as we now know it was created, setting off the creation and explosion of what we call life.

Well the same thing happens with the normal yoma's flesh being implanted into the human.

they merge with each other, mutating and creating a "superhuman", a Claymore. Claymore's are usually superior to normal yomas. However, Claymores are NOT human in their bodies. Their bodies are the hybridization of half human and half yoma.

They have the unlimited power of the normal yomas' bodies. Though, unlike the normal yomas, they retain their (unlimited) human minds.

This is what allows them to continue to improve and increase their power. Yomas' minds are limited. This prevents them from improving and increasing their power. Once the mind is that of a yoma's, that being is stuck with the power that they have. They can not improve and become more powerful

yoma's mind=limited
yoma's body=unlimited

human's mind=unlimited
human's body=limited (duh)

*A claymore's mutated new silver eyes is what allows them to tell-recognize-detect YOKI, which a normal yoma (as well as all yomas) gives off, even if it is in the shape/form of a human. Humans don't have silver eyes, and so can't tell a normal yoma in the shape of a human from a real human.

*CLARE is unusual. She is the product of another Claymore (Teresa) being implanted into her human body. She is the same as any other Claymore, except she is 3/4 (75%) human and 1/4 (yoma) due to this. There has been much speculation on Clare. If being 75% human made her arguably weaker (in the beginning) and/or if being 75% human means she can better resist Awakening. She definately is Rubel's personal experiment. Clare has surprised everyone, and we yet to see the final outcome of this experiment called CLARE.

5. [B]Awakened Beings (ABs) (yoma mind)

yomas have a unique energy for their bodies. a monster's energy called yoki. This yoki allows them to use their bodies' unlimited abilities, just as normal energy allows a human to use their body.

This yoki activates the yoma half of their bodies, enabling the Claymores' "superhuman" abilities and powers.

However, there is a downside to this. The more of the yoma half is awakened in their bodies, the closer they get to becoming taken over by that yoma half. This happens when the yoma half is activated in their brains. This usually results in them being taken over by the yoma half. This results in a further "evolution". They become an even more powerful being called Awakened Beings (ABs). This process is called Awakening. ABs no longer have their human minds. They have the same yoma minds as of normal yomas.

"0"-9% yoki released: Claymore features (these are the ONLY ways to identify a Claymore) = silver eyes and their stigmata (and light or blond hair, though some normal humans have light or blond hair too of course. Though upon becoming a Claymore even black haired girls have their hair changed to light or blond color)

10-29% yoki released: Claymore's eyes turn from silver into yelow-golden. increased power and abilities.

30-49% yoki released: Claymore's face distorts. increased power and abilities.

50-79% yoki released: Claymore's body distorts. increased power and abilities.

approaching 80% yoki released: the more advanced abilities (such as regeneration) and sword techniques become available to the Claymores.

80-100% yoki released: Claymore's brain distorts, aka Awakening occurs. They become ABs.

*The Organization has developed yoki suppression pills. These will even temporarily change their eyes from silver back into the color they originally were as humans before they became Claymores.

6. Half Awakens (HAs) (human mind)

Half Awakens are Claymores whom released 80-100% yoki and began Awakening, but never had their minds taken over by their yoma half, due to being able to lower their yoki before their minds were taken over.

This causes a very unique effect. It is like they have all the new power and abilities of being an AB, but they are still just Claymores. They are able to resist the Awakening a bit too, allowing them to release 80% or more yoki before the Awakening occurs.

Think of DBZ, and now imagine Goku having the power of a SSJ3 form while only being in his SSJ1 form!

There's only 5 known HAs: Miria, Jean (dead), Deneve, Helen, and Clare

*These were the solution for the Organization's sought after 100% obedient (well not really obedient, but they at least still have human minds, rather then a yomas) weapons. Rubel when he discovered about these new types of "beings", made sure that the Organization never did.

7. Abyssal Ones (AOs) (yoma mind)

Abyssal Ones are simply ABs from rank 1 Claymores. They are extremely powerful compared to normal (non-rank 1) ABs.

There's only 3 official-named AOs: Isley (dead), Riful, and Luciela (dead)

The full list of AOs though is: Isley (dead), Riful, Luciela (dead), Rosemary (dead), Priscilla, Alicia (dead), and Beth (probably is dead too)

A note about ABs and AOs:

When they use up their yoma power or their yoki (not sure which it is)... they can no longer keep their Awakened bodies/forms and are unable to use their powers or abilities (like regeneration).

*It has been recently witnessed that some AOs seem to have briefly or slightly regained some of their human minds.

AOs and ABs exclusively care about their own self preservation, so these below behaviors are highly unusual

Riful has been learned seriously loves Dauf, even more then her own survival

Isley had been learned to have started caring about Raki and Priscilla and even seeing the three of them as a family and him the father figure for them.

Luciela has been learned briefly cried out to her sister Rafaela that she loved her.

Even our Alicia and Beth, despite our best efforts, seemed to have regained some of their humanity, and having emotions for each other desperately trying to save each other and crying for each other when they saw each other in trouble and die.

So it is unknown is it is possible for a being to retake control of their minds after they lost them to their yoma half or not. While these anomalies are suggestive, they were only brief and ultimately failed in doing so.

8. Abyss Feeders or Abyss Eaters (AFs or AEs) (yoma mind)

These are the products of using the more powerful ABs' flesh to implant into a human's body. The AB flesh instantly over takes their bodies, making them into humanoid AB like monsters.

These are possibly the Organization's highly sought after 100% obedient mass producable weapons.

9. The Destroyer and its Fragments (pure wanton destruction, neither human nor yoma mind)

This is the product from the Awakening of the half merging of two Claymores/ABs/AOs bodies. The Fragments are parts of its body shot off as huge rod projectiles which will awaken into "hellcat" like ABs or if they impale a Claymore, it'll cause the Claymore to Awaken (like Beth did).
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YOKI

Yoki is much more complicated then what was previously (above) mentioned about it.

Besides activating the yoma half in the body, it can directly be used for almost anything.

Yoki can be used to do any number of things, such as:

1. Far distance detection of another being with yoki. (Clare, Renee, Tabatha, Galatea, maybe Teresa)

2. Analysis (stat reading like their yoma power level, yoki power level, yoki remaining, and such) of a being with yoki. (Clare, Tabatha, Renee, Galatea, Teresa)

3. Internal yoki flows. this allows them to follow the yoki flows from the brain to a part of the body. this allows them to "dodge an attack before the attack even comes". (Teresa and Clare)

4. Multiply-enhance power. (Galatea)

5. Manipulation of another's body (weaker version of #6). This allows them to slightly change the movement of a another's body. (Galatea)

6. Control of another's body (stronger version of #5). (some ABs in the Pieta battle)

7. Synchronization Or Yoki manipulation. This is matching up yokis for various things such as the Soul Link or change another's yoki such as to reduce another's yoki release. (many Claymores and other beings can do this for varying things. Clare and Galatea reduced another's yoki saving them from Awakening. Alicia, Beth, Rafaela, Luciela was able to use this to do the Soul Link. Rafaela used this to try to revive her dead sister, Luciela. Rafaela used this to transfered her mind, memories, knowledge, and experience into Clare's head-brain-mind. Yuma is using this to try to save Cynthia. Cynthia uses this to allow her to help-enhance with another's healing/regeneration. etc..)

8. Yoki Focusing. This is when they focus all their yoki into a single part of their body. (Irene and Clare)

9. Yoki directing. this is when they use their yoki to control or direct a sword technique. (Clare)

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STIGMATA

the stigmata is the surgical implantation site-location of the yoma's flesh being implanted into the human.

This is where the merging mutation of the yoma flesh and the human body begins. Due to this, it is permanently seen on the outside as part of the stigmata, causing many humans who see it to have nausea and throw up.

It is also where the Claymore's new vital organs are. Their old human vital organs disappear and their new Claymore vital organs appear at the stigmata site-location or maybe just under the skin there.

If a claymore is hit in their stigmata, it is fatal, they die, as that is where their vital organs are.

It has been seen in two ABs (Agatha and Ophelia) and one AO (Riful) that that their awakened body/form acts as a shell around their real-true human-appearing bodies, which contain their stigmata/vital organs. They are able to move their real-true human-appearing body around within their awakened body/forms. They have also been seen to be able to create a fake human-appearing body to trick their enemies.

[Aurora]

Hmm..
Hm.
Ima merge this with the Yoma discussion thread (http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=54175), since this topic is prolly going to be speculative and go around in circles..
D:
/merges
There's already a thread for Yoki (http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=49707) too.

[Serafiel]

i think the pills are just some medication which can suppress youki so low it's at 0.5% or something, since 0% is human. It could only change eye colour not hair colour, so it means that like a virus, it only tweaks the gene controlling eye colour, but only for a while. I am not very sure yet (i'm only studying biology at o level now) but the very fact that it can discriminate eye colour vs hair colour should mean it specifically controls parts of the DNA.

[HegemonKhan]

yes 0 would be a human. that's why i use the "0". my " " 's mean near zero. (sorry for being lazy and not explaning how i do some stuff in my posts)


true, but it doesn't need to change the hair back to its original color.

it's not like the claymores have purple or green hair, which would obviously need to be changed to hide their identies as claymores lol.

silver eyes.. those do need to change back into brown, green, blue,etc colors AS no human has SILVER EYES (or golden), lol


*i think the pills DO (TEMPORARILY) reduce their yoki to zero or at least uber close to it. Because it also completely (or nearly) restricts them from feeling-sensing yoki of others.

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p.s.

i know some stuff of biology, so if you need help i could try to help you. :D

[Serafiel]

Yeah, they don't need to change their hair colour, but if the pill could change hair colour as well it would be more helpful, don't you think? Besides, I always thought people had greyish eyes that could be mistaken for silver anyway.
anyways, thanks for your offer HegemonKhan, but I'm not gonna take Biology in A Level cause i'm more interested in physics :)

[kimchii]

It is funny that the organization (which basically is doing some kind of advanced genetic engineering to create the ultimate biological weapon) is unable to create something like contact lenses and hair dyes if they want the claymores to perform covert operations in human cities and doesn't want to humans to notice. That would be so much better than the pills cuz with contact lenses and hair dyes, the claymores are still able to sense the yomas. Anyways, the organization already knows about aesthetic skills since they are giving the claymores all those fancy hair cuts and hair styles, and fancy armor dresses (which by the way did not help at all in battle) and they didn't think about contact lenses and hair dyes. -_-

[HegemonKhan]

laughs...true, though i can think of some stupid invalid excusses/reasons why those wouldn't work.


don't forget they teach their female claymores the "art of seduction". (wonders how the male MiBs would be able to do that.... lol...)

I'm still waiting to see Clare's "prostitute smile" and her acting like or being a prostitute!!!

though, i'd never have the money for her that she'd cost !!!!!!!!!

Clare would be one uber uber high price prostitute!

(if your wondering where it says it in the manga, go back to when clare and raki are first entering holy city Rabona, and raki comments at how different clare looks and acts in their covert mission as brother and sister into holy city rabona to kill the big yoma in the cathedral. Clare then goes on to say how she has been taught in the ways/arts of seduction as well, *grins*)