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SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-15-2009, 12:19 AM
I will first remind everyone what the idea the "New Era" actually is. The "New Era" is the age of pirates that procceds the "Age of Dreams". The "New Era" in reality means the ending of the dreams of pirates. This idea was first shown when the straw hats docked at jaya and tried to look for information on how to get to the sky islands. Luffy was confronted by bellamy who first gave us a glympse at this ideal. It was later shown that this idea first belonged to shichibukai Donquixote Doflamingo.

"The time is almost here. Go and lay the groundwork. A world, where only true pirates can survive will soon be upon us. Those without power, flee while you can. The tide will bring those of unmatched power and the New Era will begin!"
-Doflamingo's view on the coming of the "New Era".

My theory is that since doflamingo believes in this "New Era" he will try to help bring it into fruition. I think that doflamingo will try to crush the ultimate dream that started the great age of piracy, i think that he will try to destroy one piece in order to break down the "Age of Dreams". I have multiple reasons why i think this:
1) One Piece was shown to be the goal of many of the major pirates introduced in the series:

Monkey D. Luffy
Marshall D. Teach
Crocodile (before he was corrupted by the grand line)
Gekko Moria
Eustass Kidd
Trafalgar Law (presumably)
Edward Newgate (to make ace into the next pirate king)

I think Doflamingo knows that by destroying one piece then he will be able to bring about the downfall of the dreams of many pirates and ultamitly the end of the "Age of Dreams"

2) The idea of treasure has been debated through out one piece as treasure being either a special item (luffy's hat or zoro's sword) or just material wealth like gold and silver. It was shown that bellamy, a firm believer in the "New Era" reguarded treasure as riches and it was later revealed that doflamingo taught bellamy everything he knows about the "New Era" is its highly likely that doflamingo consideres treasure as such. I think He believes that one piece is such just treasure that roger left behind so i think he wants to destroy it and show to the rest of the world that dreams will get someone no where.

3) It was shown that many of the shichibukai have that title for a reason or to acomplish a specific goal, other than the reason of being given soverignty by the world government:

-Gekko Moria-build a zombie army to conquor the new world and become the pirate king, government stationed him in the florian triangle to stop incoming pirates which also works towards his goal

-Boa Hancock-to protect her home amazon lily dispite her hatred of the world government

-Blackbeard- bring about the end of the age of whitebeard and find one piece to become the pirate king

-Bartholomew Kuma- to gain power by becomeing a pasifista. He apparently struck a deal with the WG to gain this power but his reasons or the deal are currently unknown.

-Mihawk- unknown

-Jinbei- presumably to protect fishman island

Without the shichibukai title these pirates would still be wanted and it would be alot harder to carry out their wishes. Thats why i think doflamingo accepted the title to make it easier for him to find and destroy one piece. The other reason pertaining to the shichibukai status is his participation in the WB/WG war. I think that he wants to kill whitebeard(the man closest to one piece) in order to effecivly carry out his plan without fail.

4)It seems to me that doflamingo has many connections in the world and i think that all those connections are symbolized by the "smile" jolly roger. While the meaning of the smile is still unknown i think that anything with the smile has some kind of connection with doflamingo. He basically owned the bellamy pirates and i think hes affiliated somehow with trafalagar law. He also owned the auction house in the shabody archipelago. I think he has many pirate crews all over the grand line looking for one piece so he can destroy it. We havent seen Laws views yet so tht purely speculation.

5)It seems to me that doflamingo is already settled in the new world. When the shichibukai were called by the WG to discuss the matters of crocodile's defeat, doflamingo said this to sengoku:

Doflamingo:"I wasnt going to come either, but business is going so well on the island that i was getting bored. So here i am."
Sengoku:"I see. That is troublesome to hear. Nothin is more unsettling to us thaan hearing the pirating business is doing well."

If doflamingo was talking about the auction house, then why would he give that up to disco on a whim. Also the auction house isnt a "pirate" industry persay, its run by various kidnappers such as the flying fish riders and the hound pets. If he gave such a booming business up then he must have money coming in from somewhere else. Also if his farthest reach of business is the shabondy archipeligo, then why would he just give it up for seemingly no reason. His influence on business has to expand into the new world since he is obviously a new world calibar pirate (by cutting off oars leg with no problem and effortlessly controling one of whitebeards division commanders). I think hes using this mass of money that he is making to foward his quest to destroy one piece since i already think that hwen hes not meeting with the WG or punishing subordinates, he spends his time mostly in the new world.

6)During the war with whitebeard doflamingo laughs at the notion of "justice" that the marines and pirates justify:

"Pirates are evil!!? The Marines are righteous!!? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history...!!! Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values!!! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground!!! Justice will prevail, you say!? But of course it will!!! Whoever wins this war becomes justice!!!"-Doflamingo on the idea of "justice"

Akin to doflamingo's sadistic character also comes his beliefs and views of the world. From what has been observed so far in the war, doflamingo has shown extremely minimal effort to even attept to win. This shows me (maybe im crazy idk lol) that doflamingo has a very lazy habit of just "going with the flow", so to speak. He seems to ride on the success of the organization that he deems most powerful, as he is seem either attacking the pirates or just chilling on top of a pile of dead marines. This personality trait is also taken in by his powers to "control" people to do his bidding without contributing much effort on his part. This is also connected to point #5 because when he contacts disco he is seen relaxing on what seems to be a summer island. I think he's trying to ride the World Government's power wave to eventually reach raftel and destroy one piece. His part in the war is to help eliminate whitebeard but since he has been seen doing little fighting he must find no need to fight because of a possible "ace in the hole" sengoku has. His explaination of kuma becoming PX-0 shows that he has contacts or connections to the highest branches in the marines or the world government. This further proves his lazy nature but it isnt absolute unfortunatly.

well thats my theory tell me wht u think =))))

Monkey D. Hancock
09-15-2009, 12:55 AM
Well, it seems plausible...
I thought he was a businessman trying to earn billions in order to amass a great treasure to surpass OP...

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-15-2009, 03:49 AM
well no one knows wht one piece is besides maybe rayleigh and shanks but not doflamingo. Maybe he is juss greedy but i dont think its tht simple since hes such a huge villian...i think oda has big plans for him
thxs for the comment btw =)))

Monkey D. Hancock
09-15-2009, 04:07 AM
I think OP isn't gold, riches, money, or power like most pirates think... Maybe, it's some kind of knowledge or wisdom or the ultimate basic need of human beings: self actualization. Power or riches can never satisfy human beings, ever! Achieving those things would only make you desire for more!
Being the Pirate King doesn't equate to being the most powerful, rich or famous. As Luffy have said "I don't need to conquer everything to become the Pirate King... The Pirate King simply has the most freedom in the world..."

Kisame of the Mist
09-15-2009, 04:52 AM
I think OP isn't gold, riches, money, or power like most pirates think... Maybe, it's some kind of knowledge or wisdom or the ultimate basic need of human beings: self actualization. Power or riches can never satisfy human beings, ever! Achieving those things would only make you desire for more!
Being the Pirate King doesn't equate to being the most powerful, rich or famous. As Luffy have said "I don't need to conquer everything to become the Pirate King... The Pirate King simply has the most freedom in the world..."
What if OP was actually the journey itself. Maybe Roger thought that whoever was destined to reach that plateau, the end of the grand line, and the top of piracy had already obtained "OP". OP was the journey to reaching such a theoretical treasure.

That's just my 2 cents.

My December
09-15-2009, 05:13 AM
Hopefully this thread wont turn into "What One Piece might be?" thread, since we have One Piece treasure (http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=16400) thread.

@SUUPPAAA
So basically what you're trying to say is, to create this new era of his, he would destroy the One Piece? Sorry but, there no solid prove to back up your theory other than "Flamingo doesn't believe in dreams, he'll destroy One Piece to end the Pirate era".

It depends on how you interpret Flamingo's "New Era". I don't really think he means to end the Pirating Age. Flamingo can still be considered as a Pirate too. I can also say his "New Era" is to put an end to the old power (Whitebeard, Yonkous, etc), and raise the power of the new ones (Pirates).

So he doesn't necessarily need to destroy One Piece to create the New Era. He can also bring down strong pirates to do so. In the recent chapters, Flamingo shown to be so eager to fight WB pirates.

Curious Mind
09-15-2009, 05:24 AM
interesting theory but i can't figure one thing out

why would Doflamingo want to end the age of dreams or new era or even end piracy? wouldn't that hurt him or better yet what would he gain from doing so?

EdwardTeach
09-15-2009, 05:29 AM
interesting theory but i can't figure one thing out

why would Doflamingo want to end the age of dreams or new era or even end piracy? wouldn't that hurt him or better yet what would he gain from doing so?

maybe that is his dream, to destroy the dream of every pirate, he`s a
dream eater! :D lol

i think if this theory became a fact, his reason why will be revealed soon.

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-15-2009, 03:29 PM
@My December and Curious Mind
i think he wants to end the age of dreams not piracy, after he took care of bellamy he said this:

"The time is almost here. Go and lay the groundwork. A world, where only true pirates can survive will soon be upon us. Those without power, flee while you can. The tide will bring those of unmatched power and the New Era will begin!"

he doesnt want the age of piracy to end just the age of dreams, i guess he thinks that a true meaning of being a pirate is personal gain and not the excitment of adventure as opposed to say luffy and blackbeard.
And like many other characters, doflamingo shows some sadistic pleasure out of fighting and controling people so it might just be that thrill of battle that makes him eager to fight whitebeard......and tht is true december, maybe taking down whitebeard is part of the breakdown of the age of dreams. WB is the strongest pirate in the world and virtually at the forefront of the age of dreams. But he said himself that only those of unmatched power will make the new era begin, what he means is unknown at the moment but i think we'll find out in the next few chapters
only oda knows for sure hahahaha

Curious Mind
09-15-2009, 09:35 PM
@My December and Curious Mind
i think he wants to end the age of dreams not piracy, after he took care of bellamy he said this:

"The time is almost here. Go and lay the groundwork. A world, where only true pirates can survive will soon be upon us. Those without power, flee while you can. The tide will bring those of unmatched power and the New Era will begin!"

he doesnt want the age of piracy to end just the age of dreams, i guess he thinks that a true meaning of being a pirate is personal gain and not the excitment of adventure as opposed to say luffy and blackbeard.
And like many other characters, doflamingo shows some sadistic pleasure out of fighting and controling people so it might just be that thrill of battle that makes him eager to fight whitebeard......and tht is true december, maybe taking down whitebeard is part of the breakdown of the age of dreams. WB is the strongest pirate in the world and virtually at the forefront of the age of dreams. But he said himself that only those of unmatched power will make the new era begin, what he means is unknown at the moment but i think we'll find out in the next few chapters
only oda knows for sure hahahaha

i see so he's annoyed by all these random people barging in and calling themsleves pirates, well then i'd have to say it's a very plausible theory and i can actually see it coming.

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-15-2009, 09:53 PM
i see so he's annoyed by all these random people barging in and calling themsleves pirates, well then i'd have to say it's a very plausible theory and i can actually see it coming.

thank you =)) its funny the idea just hit me randomly when i was in one of my classes lmfao

Monkey D. Hancock
09-16-2009, 02:39 AM
Seems ironic...
If he wants to create a "new era" why would he say "being in core of this era cracks me up..."

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-16-2009, 02:53 AM
he thinks that the era of dreams is a joke and he just laughs at it like everything else. It also ads to his sadistic personality haha

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-18-2009, 11:19 PM
Hopefully this thread wont turn into "What One Piece might be?" thread, since we have One Piece treasure (http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=16400) thread.

@SUUPPAAA
So basically what you're trying to say is, to create this new era of his, he would destroy the One Piece? Sorry but, there no solid prove to back up your theory other than "Flamingo doesn't believe in dreams, he'll destroy One Piece to end the Pirate era".

It depends on how you interpret Flamingo's "New Era". I don't really think he means to end the Pirating Age. Flamingo can still be considered as a Pirate too. I can also say his "New Era" is to put an end to the old power (Whitebeard, Yonkous, etc), and raise the power of the new ones (Pirates).

So he doesn't necessarily need to destroy One Piece to create the New Era. He can also bring down strong pirates to do so. In the recent chapters, Flamingo shown to be so eager to fight WB pirates.

he and bellamy have said themselves that the new era is the era without dreams, where only the strongest will survive. Its not a matter of how u interpret it bc its already been said. Nd its not bringing an end to the pirate age just bringing out a new era of piracy proceeding the age of dreams
btw sorry for the late post:D

sPlYnTR
09-19-2009, 06:17 AM
first of all ,this is not at all a topic to be discussed.........coz i dont think bellamy will show in the future much to care less about doflamingo...........i think doflamingo's DF abilities will be nullified by buggy's DF abilities.........so this 'idea' of new era will end in this arc.............

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-19-2009, 06:12 PM
first of all ,this is not at all a topic to be discussed.........coz i dont think bellamy will show in the future much to care less about doflamingo...........i think doflamingo's DF abilities will be nullified by buggy's DF abilities.........so this 'idea' of new era will end in this arc.............

just because a DF power is nullified doesnt mean that person becomes useless. Look at crocodile and enel they still fought after there power was more or less stopped. Crocodile's 3rd fight with luffy was fought mainly hand to hand until the absolute end. And look at doflamingos physical prowess, he leaped over oars without the slightest look of difficulty, he in fact had a smile on his face. And plus the idea of the "New Era" hasnt fully been elaborated yet and oda would put something like that in for no reason.

StrawHatNats
09-20-2009, 01:30 AM
Imo the "New Age" will begin after this War is over.

during this War, Whitebeard, Sengoku, The Admirals, Shichibukai, and all of the Older Characters from Roger's day who are world-reknowned and feared will die fighting each other. New or Lower-RankedMarines(i.e. people like Smoker) and New Pirates(like the Supernovas) will rise to prominence, and this is what will begin the so-called "New Era".

in the "New Era" there won't be any established powers, Outside of the remaining Emperors in the NW, and Dragon. and there will be a mad scramble for power between new Marine Regime, the remaining Shichibukai and the New Rookie Pirates (like the Supernovas, and such).

summary, the "New Age" will being after the Current World Powers destroy themselves in Whitebeard's War.

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-22-2009, 03:33 PM
i added to my theory if anyone wants to look =)))))))

engal
09-22-2009, 04:00 PM
The power balance will shift, and I think the new world will be a battelfied between The Yonku, Blackbeard, the Supernova and the old Pirates there.

LoneWolfStark
09-22-2009, 10:15 PM
Good theory. Doflamingo does seem like the kind of guy to do something like that. But doesn't wanting the "Age of Dreams" to end is a dream in itself, which contradicts the dreamless 'New Era" ? Anyways, back to topic. I believe Oda has big plans for Doflamingo, he is the Shichibukai who gets the least amount of attention. He's definetly going to play a large role in the plot later on as the series progresses.

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-22-2009, 10:21 PM
Good theory. Doflamingo does seem like the kind of guy to do something like that. But doesn't wanting the "Age of Dreams" to end is a dream in itself, which contradicts the dreamless 'New Era" ? Anyways, back to topic. I believe Oda has big plans for Doflamingo, he is the Shichibukai who gets the least amount of attention. He's definetly going to play a large role in the plot later on as the series progresses.

hahaha finally someone who thinks like me lmfao. Thts how i think doflamingo will meet his end, he'll realize tht every pirate has dreams they wanna acomplish. Oda will hopfully put tht ironic twist in at the end, tht would be amazing.

LoneWolfStark
09-22-2009, 10:40 PM
hahaha finally someone who thinks like me lmfao. Thts how i think doflamingo will meet his end, he'll realize tht every pirate has dreams they wanna acomplish. Oda will hopfully put tht ironic twist in at the end, tht would be amazing.

Wow, we do think alike, I thought of the same thing! Doflamingo certanly will become a major villain that Luffy will have to defeat to make him realize that dreams is what maes pirates pirates. But that won't happen until much ater in the New World, maybe even in Raftel. The New World, Raftel, and One Piece are the very symbols of the "Age of Dreams".

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-22-2009, 10:47 PM
Wow, we do think alike, I thought of the same thing! Doflamingo certanly will become a major villain that Luffy will have to defeat to make him realize that dreams is what maes pirates pirates. But that won't happen until much ater in the New World, maybe even in Raftel. The New World, Raftel, and One Piece are the very symbols of the "Age of Dreams".

wtf dude hahahahahahaha i think hes gonna be one of or if not the final obsticle for the straw hats, since hes been slowly evaluated throughout the series. Nd who ever thinks buggys gonna beat doflamingo is crazy lmfao. Buggys powers might counter act doflamingos but doflamingo probly knows how to fight unlike buggy lol.

LoneWolfStark
09-22-2009, 11:02 PM
wtf dude hahahahahahaha i think hes gonna be one of or if not the final obsticle for the straw hats, since hes been slowly evaluated throughout the series. Nd who ever thinks buggys gonna beat doflamingo is crazy lmfao. Buggys powers might counter act doflamingos but doflamingo probly knows how to fight unlike buggy lol.

Yeah, there's more to a fight than just Devil Fruit vs Devil Fruit. Doflamingo has two things Buggy doesn't: experience and probably Haki (we don't know for sure). And just look a Doflamingo's bounty, I know bounty doesn't equal power, but he must be very dangerous when he as pirate for the World Government to get the highest bounty seen so far, more than just owning a Slave Auction. Hell, that probably has nothing to do with his bounty considering the World Government lets the slave auctions continue and even participates in them, the Tenryuubito being the biggest buyers. We haven't seen anything from Doflamingo yet.

Jailor
09-22-2009, 11:09 PM
Doflamingo > Buggy. :lol:

Buggy - Idiot, weak, insane
Doflamingo - Smart, strong, insane

I do agree he will be a threat to the Straw Hats in the future, but so will all the other Shichibukai and the other pirates waiting in the New World

LoneWolfStark
09-22-2009, 11:22 PM
I think Doflamingo is a good final enemy for Luffy and the Straw Hats. His beliefs are completely opposite to Luffy's, which makes it better than Luffy's final opponent to be someone else who wants to be Pirate King too. That would be a twist, having to save One Piece instead of getting it. Doflamingo would make a much better last villain than Blackbeard, who in my opinion is pretty overrated.

0ne Piece
09-23-2009, 05:49 AM
I'm just wondering what this "New Era" is all about. What will be the difference in this "New Era" of Piracy(?) as oppose to the current era now. Sure we may get new powerful pirates taking over the new world then what...

With current war the balance of power is going to tilt, but on who's side? Ohhh...the possibilities.

If I have to venture a guess, the World Government/Marines will take a nose dive in power once Dragon starts to move and use this on going war to cause civil unrest everywhere. Perfect time really.

LoneWolfStark
09-23-2009, 08:16 PM
I'm just wondering what this "New Era" is all about. What will be the difference in this "New Era" of Piracy(?) as oppose to the current era now. Sure we may get new powerful pirates taking over the new world then what...

With current war the balance of power is going to tilt, but on who's side? Ohhh...the possibilities.

If I have to venture a guess, the World Government/Marines will take a nose dive in power once Dragon starts to move and use this on going war to cause civil unrest everywhere. Perfect time really.

Funny you mention Dragon, I was thinking about this too. What is the World Government thinking by going to war with Whitebeard? Even if they win, they will be weakened, we're talking about Roger's equal here, which gives Dragon the perfect oppurtunity to swoop in and crush them while they're down. The government even sees Dragon as a bigger threat than Whitebeard. Why do they want to upset the balance of power by taking out one of the Yonkou? Maybe they want the Marines to be the one and only power that rules the world, and as the guys who give them orders, they would rule the world. They already have the Shichibukai, the third source of power under their rule, so all they have to do is take out the only thing that opposes their rule, the Yonkou. Boy, I really got off topic.

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-23-2009, 08:24 PM
Funny you mention Dragon, I was thinking about this too. What is the World Government thinking by going to war with Whitebeard? Even if they win, they will be weakened, we're talking about Roger's equal here, which gives Dragon the perfect oppurtunity to swoop in and crush them while they're down. The government even sees Dragon as a bigger threat than Whitebeard. Why do they want to upset the balance of power by taking out one of the Yonkou? Maybe they want the Marines to be the one and only power that rules the world, and as the guys who give them orders, they would rule the world. They already have the Shichibukai, the third source of power under their rule, so all they have to do is take out the only thing that opposes their rule, the Yonkou. Boy, I really got off topic.

na lmfao it doesnt rele matter to me if u get off topic hahahahahaha, well its funny u mention tht. Y would the WG do something so seemingly foolish. They hav to hav an ace in the hole. Nd i believe tht "ace" is an ancient weapon. Namely posideon

LoneWolfStark
09-23-2009, 08:31 PM
na lmfao it doesnt rele matter to me if u get off topic hahahahahaha, well its funny u mention tht. Y would the WG do something so seemingly foolish. They hav to hav an ace in the hole. Nd i believe tht "ace" is an ancient weapon. Namely posideon

That's a good theory. Maybe that's why the Government was so obbsessed about not wanting the revival of Pluton, because they know the only thing that can stand up to an Ancient Weapon is another Ancient Weapon. Another thing that confuses me is why the Government hasn't deployed an army of Pacifista to help in the war, a couple hundred of those could be a real asset to the Marines.

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-23-2009, 09:43 PM
That's a good theory. Maybe that's why the Government was so obbsessed about not wanting the revival of Pluton, because they know the only thing that can stand up to an Ancient Weapon is another Ancient Weapon. Another thing that confuses me is why the Government hasn't deployed an army of Pacifista to help in the war, a couple hundred of those could be a real asset to the Marines.

ok dude u really gotta stop thinkin like me hahahahahahahaha. I never thought of the whole pacifista business, kuma did say that the pacifista was an incomplete human weapon, or maybe the shabondy archipeligao was just a test and since the SH beat 1 vegapunk or sentomaru might not think there strong enough to go against new world pirates.

LoneWolfStark
09-23-2009, 09:51 PM
ok dude u really gotta stop thinkin like me hahahahahahahaha. I never thought of the whole pacifista business, kuma did say that the pacifista was an incomplete human weapon, or maybe the shabondy archipeligao was just a test and since the SH beat 1 vegapunk or sentomaru might not think there strong enough to go against new world pirates.

That's true, I guess Vegapunk still needs to upgrade them. I wonder why Sentoumaru isn't participating in the war. I guess he's guarding Vegapunk just in case.

0ne Piece
09-24-2009, 12:41 AM
Like the saying goes: You don't want to put all your eggs in one basket

This is the "end" of the first leg of the story so all these X-factors will come in due time. I'm just itching to see what this NEW ERA is all about and who is at the tip of the spear when this all starts.

bob85
09-24-2009, 04:51 AM
Im sorry if somebody else has post something similar, but what u said about the shicibukai being able to accomplish something is half true, and some facts are totally bogus.

3) It was shown that many of the shichibukai have that title for a reason or to acomplish a specific goal, other than the reason of being given soverignty by the world government:

-Gekko Moria-build a zombie army to conquor the new world and become the pirate king, government stationed him in the florian triangle to stop incoming pirates which also works towards his goal

-Boa Hancock-to protect her home amazon lily dispite her hatred of the world government

-Blackbeard- bring about the end of the age of whitebeard and find one piece to become the pirate king

-Bartholomew Kuma- to gain power by becomeing a pasifista (presumably because he doesnt follow all of the governments orders and doesnt abide at all by the marines)

-Mihawk- unknown

-Jinbei- presumably to protect fishman island

Without the shichibukai title these pirates would still be wanted and it would be alot harder to carry out their wishes. Thats why i think doflamingo accepted the title to make it easier for him to find and destroy one piece. The other reason pertaining to the shichibukai status is his participation in the WB/WG war. I think that he wants to kill whitebeard(the man closest to one piece) in order to effecivly carry out his plan without fail.

As an example, and from my own understanding, Kuma didnt become a Shici to be a pacifista, he volunteers as a subject to the project, and his true goals are not clear. Gecko is not assign to be at Florian Triangle, but its easier for his purpose to collect his collection of Zombie warriors easier. Its not that there were a clear intention of he being there as an order of the WG. As for BB, i dont think he's real intention was to take over WB, his intentions are not clear either. Mihawk, well i agree to not know what his intention from the starts, except searching for some worthy opponent to fight him.

PLus i don think that Donflamingo will lose the chance of joining the war even if he isnt a shici, look at croc for example.

The New Era (TNE) that donflamingo said was not supposedly his ideal of crushing the pursuit of OP, that Roger brought before he was executed. I think its just a phrase annoucing the breed of new pirates, which fawns through wealth, power, and fame, not that which Luffy is doin, as an advcenture and believing in dreams.

And ask urself this,can OP can be destroy by the mass money Donflamingo has? As i see it, he's not even close to smelling OP other than the yonkou.

Plus, i think u are ignoring Luffy's saying in the series:

http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000066782/08.jpg

Marco 'The Phoenix'
09-24-2009, 04:56 AM
Yeah, If Whitebeard hasnt found One Piece yet, what would make people think that Doflamingo could find it let alone DESTROY IT!

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-24-2009, 12:29 PM
Ok.............first I put "presumably" for the reason tht kuma might want to become a shichibukai. And Moria was stationed there by the WG or else how would they know hes there and take advantage of the fact he's there nd thts not his goal reguardless, his goal is to become the pirate king. And BB did say before he fought ace tht WBs time was over.
Nd yea tht is wht the New Era is an age where pirates gain power through money and conquest alone, but how else would tht vision come about. And also no one knows wht one piece is at the moment so u cnt say tht i cant be destroyed. Also u cant say tht doflamingo isnt close to one piece until we get to the new world. Tht y its a theory lol i took the few instances tht doflamingo appeared nd came up with this.

FrisE
09-24-2009, 12:44 PM
i don't know about this destroying one piece thing. i'd rather think flamingo does not care about OP. he might be rather trying to establish a new network, something like a fourth "authority"... first one "world government" second one "revolutionarys" third one "pirates (ok theyre independent lets say yonku)" and the fourth one might be something like "flamingo corp." or something :D
ok maybe not like this but i'd rather think flamingo is trying to increase his might and wealthy by this "mafia-like" thing hes running there.

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
09-27-2009, 05:09 PM
i don't know about this destroying one piece thing. i'd rather think flamingo does not care about OP. he might be rather trying to establish a new network, something like a fourth "authority"... first one "world government" second one "revolutionarys" third one "pirates (ok theyre independent lets say yonku)" and the fourth one might be something like "flamingo corp." or something :D
ok maybe not like this but i'd rather think flamingo is trying to increase his might and wealthy by this "mafia-like" thing hes running there.

i can see tht too but idk one piece is the center of the story so i dont think oda would put him there juss to be there, just a rich selfish pirate, he has to hav a higher purpose than tht, but thts just me:thumbup:

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
12-24-2009, 07:08 AM
added to my theory check it out =)

DroLover420
12-24-2009, 07:14 AM
i can see tht too but idk one piece is the center of the story so i dont think oda would put him there juss to be there, just a rich selfish pirate, he has to hav a higher purpose than tht, but thts just me:thumbup:
I think Doflamingo is going to have a big part in the second half of One Piece

BakaWoof
12-31-2009, 01:28 PM
I think Doflamingo is going to have a big part in the second half of One Piece

Yup...Maybe we'll see Bellamy again? (oh wait was he killed?)

Fisher Tiger the savior
12-31-2009, 02:47 PM
Yup...Maybe we'll see Bellamy again? (oh wait was he killed?)

Of course the pirates will have get stronger and we still know nothing about the dynamics of Don's powers. Of all the shichibukai, he is the biggest mystery.

shanks22
01-06-2010, 02:06 AM
i agree about doflamingo's plan on destroying one piece. he loves chaos! look how happy he is in the war between WG vs WB.

flipsk8ernr
01-06-2010, 02:43 AM
Doflamingo is an Okama...its true

DroLover420
01-06-2010, 03:01 AM
Yup...Maybe we'll see Bellamy again? (oh wait was he killed?)
That was mean hand mark Luffy left in his face I still remember exactly what his face looks like after Luffy punched him.

flipsk8ernr
01-06-2010, 03:06 AM
Then the Okama suchibukai Doflamingo went and finished him off

OP fan
01-07-2010, 07:54 PM
I think the 'New Era' is just an era of the new generations of pirates. End of the older generations and in with the new :)

Fisher Tiger the savior
01-07-2010, 08:01 PM
I think the 'New Era' is just an era of the new generations of pirates. End of the older generations and in with the new :)

I think it runs deeper than that, its a new era for the series as a whole with a different story format that will not consist of differnt story arcs with the villian of the month to do battle to save a person/group/ or nation. I will be more like the arc now; long and focused on noe member of the SH crew. Now is Luffy, next will be another member and so forth until their eventual reunion. Of course all the other crewmates's story arcs will be shorter than Luffy's. That's my prediction.

Nintendocat
01-07-2010, 08:10 PM
That was mean hand mark Luffy left in his face I still remember exactly what his face looks like after Luffy punched him.

I'm pretty sure he was killed by Don Flamingo. http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/303/04/

SUUUPPPAAA!!!
03-06-2010, 10:29 PM
I think the 'New Era' is just an era of the new generations of pirates. End of the older generations and in with the new :)

Well the "New Era" is a bunch of different ideas like Doflamingo's is the era of strong pirates without dreams. Some think its an era without pirates, and the most basic view is the era of the rookies like luffy and maybe the other supernovas. Its up for speculation by many haha

flipsk8ernr
03-07-2010, 02:33 AM
Well Doflamingo will have a big part in the NW, I think WBs dead and passing the torch is the start to the new era, of course all the chapter titles help me w/ coming to that realization, but the era was shifting way before then when Shanks bet an arm on a lil kid named Luffy