Pirates power and bounty [Archive]

tsunade666

10-24-2007, 01:52 PM

we talk here all we want about pirates underestimating other pirates because of bounty and we can also talk here about their power and how strong they are and also their bounty

the last talk is about shichibukai teach which doesn't have a bounty but have been promoted into a shichibukai

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the other thread about strawhats still being underestimated by no name pirates I will understand about moria's case fighting strawhat but the Ice hunter pirates they don't even have a name or even their bounty is not yet reveal I still think they are not in the league of strawhats the current strawhats are strong and not the be underestimated with their name are well know through out the world because of ennies lobby event
I think their current level must be a shichibukai or yonko but maybe still not there yet near the yonko thing but they are strong enough to battle shichibukai and they can fight in straight way against WG
they are to be fear about their flag is a sign of a pirate bounty of 660,000,050 beli the STRAW HATS PIRATE CREW ! :thumbup:

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Raiden

10-24-2007, 01:58 PM

yeah I think it is good for Blackbeard that he hadnt no bounty as he became a Shishibukai, so he will be underestimated by many pirates

tsunade666

10-24-2007, 02:05 PM

but that will lead to too many destruction if many pirates underestimate him many will fight him and it will lead them to their death his way strong to have no bounty he even destroy a whole village why does he still have a no bounty even luffy can't do that in a single shot( luffy can destroy the village but it will take sometime but he freakingly destroy it in a single blow leaving it into trash

Raiden

10-24-2007, 02:08 PM

he got no bounty because their was no need. they just made him a shishibukai instantly so no need for a bounty for him.

Captaingod

10-24-2007, 02:15 PM

Yea the bounty doesn't reflect ones strength, I don't think Robin was as strong as Crocodile at the age of 9, right? Bounty reflects how big threat you are to the WG, even if the weakest person in the entire series would be the one who knew all the secrets of the WG, he would get the highest bounty.

tsunade666

10-24-2007, 02:27 PM

thats true it also reflects one threat to WG but teach just destroy towns and maybe lots of it does in not possess threat ? he is scarring the people away and the WG job is to protect the people of the town and to fight pirates

Ussop

10-24-2007, 02:31 PM

He is on WG's side, after all (since he 'works' for them). As long as he doesn't go around killing Marines and things like that, I doubt the WG will mind. After all, WG doesn't really gives a damn about the citizens.

tsunade666

10-24-2007, 02:47 PM

thats cruel not all marines are that I think aokiji is not that kind he even spare robin back their

and they should have given him bounty at least it will be a problem if he doesn't have a bounty I think even if he is a shichibukai no one will fear him without a bounty and even gecko doens't even care for him he is just interested because of a shichibukai that doesn't have a bounty many pirates will fall for that and will get their selves killed for underestimating him

and about robin's bounty she is still strong no normal marine can defeat her so even if her bounty is high because of her threat for WG her strength can still compensate for it

Ussop

10-24-2007, 02:58 PM

I'm talking about WG, the organisation as a whole. Look, they commited genocide over the island of Ohara just to kill some historians whole found out their past. How is that not cruel?

Well, Robin is strong, but she still isn't a match for some other pirates with same or lower bounty. The main reason for bounties is as an incentive for bounty hunters and Marines to try their best to hunt down those deemed as a threat to WG.

There is no point in giving BB a bounty just for the sake of it. Even the big guns (Shanks) feel that BB is powerful. Isn't that enough as intimation? No point giving him a bounty so that other (weaker) pirates will fear him. BB can probably kill those off anyway, if he wanted.

Spade

10-24-2007, 04:00 PM

Do you really think people will underestimate Blackbeard? He's a Shichibukai, noone would try to attack them (unless they wear a certain strawhat), they'd have the whole WG after them if they did. XD

Ussop

10-24-2007, 04:05 PM

Or if he has Red hair, or White Beard or is named after a certain mystical creature for that manner. :P

But then again, BB has kept a relatively low profile, hence I doubt most people actually know him, or fear him.

tsunade666

10-24-2007, 06:10 PM

he is still not well know even if you see him
if you still didn't know his a shichibukai you will just challenge him to a fight
and its nothing you will just get beat up by teach without knowing
even moria doesn't know his name
his name it must be well known to be fear of
and also having no bounty without a well known name just will surely underestimate
by the opponents and add to it that only few people know that his a shichibukai
unless its been announced but without proper proof of strengh he will still be underestimated like what happen to bellamy he thinks that the bounty poster was a joke and ending him with a mark on his face and maybe his skull their is deformed the punch really marks on his face

Sigil_the_Great

10-24-2007, 07:38 PM

I think the zero bounty was all part of his plan: hide under Whitebeard's name until he found the Shadow DF; create a powerful crew; beat a pirate with a high bounty (Ace); turn in pirate and become Shichibukai. At no point would he actually need a bounty, not to mention it adds to the mystery of how much of a threat his group is. It would allow his group the authority of the WG while still having the anonymity of having no bounty.

tsunade666

10-25-2007, 03:55 AM

its darkness fruit
and yes its add to mystery why would WG grant a shichibukai title to a no name pirate?
many pirate will surely think his weak and try to defeat him and teach will let them feel the power of darkness

Rakarth

10-25-2007, 07:47 AM

I belive that at first everyone who isnt familiar with BB from before will underestimate him and will get taken down, but it wont take long until BB will be know by more and more ppl and the word will just spread and soon no one will take him lightly.

I also belive that it was partially because of his DF powers that BB was offered to be a shibukai. The WG surley know how powerfull the DF really is and they wouldnt want to be fighting against someone with that power.

tsunade666

10-25-2007, 11:10 AM

yes the power of darkness is so strong

back to the first part why does the ice hunters try to attack the straw hat their bounty clearly shows how strong they are does they have the appropriate strength to compansate for their attitude and the current filler is lame the straw hats should fight more strong pirates the same level as them like the shichibukai they are current fighting in the manga

Ussop

10-25-2007, 11:33 AM

Well, as we said earlier, bounties do not accurately portray the person's strength. Furthermore we are now talking about guys from the New World. Like they will give a damn about the Mugiwaras (who never enter the New World before.).

And that this is filler, they can't defeat a Shichibukai in a filler, just yet, can they?

tsunade666

10-25-2007, 02:52 PM

no
its a filler a level like them a higer bounty pirate or a pirate hunter like zorro before
someone who looks strong and can compensate for it its just that the enemy of this filler looks weak ( though we haven't see them battle yet )

and this is a little of the topic but why those the only the one piece amongthe 3 manga's that are above others doesn't have spoilers and special rules and other special threads its unlike the naruto and bleach threads

TheBatosai

10-25-2007, 05:01 PM

So fillers are fillers they have no real point at all...other than to fill up the time slot! (wow who would have guessed) and basically its pointless to talk about them because in the end we ALL know whats going to happen....Strawhats fight...something happens to make it harder for them to fight....they get mad and own the crap out of everyone ...and the story continues..

Back to the Blackbeard thing...Blackbeard to Me is exactly like Enel...he has an awesome powerful Logia fruit yet all in all He was made so that Luffy can defeat him...I dont really think its a coincidence that Oda made the Darkness fruit the only Logia type that can be hit by physical attacks...I know the theory has come up that if Luffy attacks BB then his powers were go away, but Idk if that only works for Logias or not.....but basically Luffy is strong with or without his DF (due mostly to the trainig he recieve from his grandpa) but I believe that Oda will make it a spectacular battle if he decides to Nullify Luffys powers against BB, because Luffy has depended on them for so long...and it would be interesting to see how he would handle himself without the ability to stretch.

Captaingod

10-25-2007, 06:28 PM

Pirates and bounties eyy... well the man with the highest bounty is Dragon, my guess is that it's lying on about 500 000 000, the Yonkous maybe have theirs on ~430 000 000 and their crews totals should be higher than 2 000 000 000 total each. I think I'll take my soft airgun and take Shanks down... I need those Bellies...

V-time

10-25-2007, 09:29 PM

Well i guess that Robin deserves her Bounty pretty well since she has the ability to snap the necks of her opponents in an instant ( i know it wouldn´t be suited for the age but is still possible). So she could even defeat Sanji or Zorro in a straight fight if the series wouldn´t care about violence and death. Therefore the 81.000.000 doesn´t surprise anyone and since her DF doesn´t rely on strength she could easily do these things as an 9 year old kid.
Imagine a whole squad of Marines get killled by an 9 year old kid. That would be shameful and ruin the confidence of the normal people towards the WG. That´s probably the main reason for her high Bounty despite being so young.

Raiden

10-25-2007, 10:47 PM

the main reason for her high bounty is that she can read the porneglyph(or how it is called) and I dont think that she had the same strenght with 9 years as now, but afterall at this moment I think Robin deserves her bounty

tsunade666

10-26-2007, 02:52 AM

how about chopper I think his bounty is totally unfair he even defeat one of the cp9 kamodori the sennin
and leveling chopper as a pet is the most unfair part

Sigil_the_Great

10-26-2007, 06:32 AM

How are the marines supposed to know Chopper is a dangerous pirate? From an outside look, he's some sort of cute animal. As far as the WG knows, Kumadori was found beaten away from the building, so have no idea how he was beaten. Everyone who sees Chopper sees only a cute reindeer doctor, and not much else, until he gets mad and hits somebody.

tsunade666

10-26-2007, 10:02 AM

Tomm-E

10-26-2007, 10:05 AM

Maybe their basing the bounties on the damage they actually saw the crew do to the marines & guessing the fact that no CP9 survived and that it possibly could've been 1 on 1, but i don't know how Sanji got such a big bounty when he wasn't really there.

Captaingod

10-26-2007, 10:07 AM

I think Robin might be the person the WG fears most, after Dragon. And about the kaku, kalifa and wolf fights, there were witnesses - Kaku, Kalifa and Wolf all survived and got a chance to tell on their superiors..

Tomm-E

10-26-2007, 10:08 AM

Did they survive? hasn't shown that bit in the anime yet

Rakarth

10-26-2007, 12:21 PM

No it hasnt been showed yet but so far there hasnt been almost any deaths in OP so we can asume that they survived

Ussop

10-26-2007, 12:25 PM

However, since the Marine dude reported all the CP9 members as dead, assume that they are really dead unless Oda puts them into his mini-arc thing.

Captaingod

10-26-2007, 12:56 PM

Oh, I missed that, just cuz the strawhats didn't kill them I assumed they survived, but that's who I am, an ignorant son of a *****. Well, maybe the bounty went up only because of the wardeclaration(is that even a word).

Tomm-E

10-26-2007, 12:59 PM

if you separate it =P

Raiden

10-26-2007, 03:34 PM

but no one else see how kaku , kalifa and the wolf ( forgot his name )
got beaten so how does they know its nami , sanji and zorro who beat them
and add up franky that beat fukuroro
no one see them
the only battle that had been seen is the the battle of lucci and luffy and its been witness by all marines capt. and even vice admirals and aokiji is around there somewhere also

it is just that chopper looks like an pet and the others are humans, so the WG doenst accept that chopper fought also, because they dont know that he is a reindeer that had eaten the human-human devilfruit

Tomm-E

10-26-2007, 03:59 PM

Or maybe its just plain simple that they haven't seen his power and the writer thought it'd be funny to have chopper depicted in that misunderstood comedic sense.

Iggle

10-26-2007, 04:16 PM

chopper deserves amuch bigger bounty, hes strongest strawhat in his monster form am i right, or close?

Raiden

10-26-2007, 08:08 PM

no I think luffy, zoro and sanji would also beat up choppers monsterform but chopper is definitive on the fourth position when we look at the strenght maybe only the fifth, franky and chopper are almost the same strenght

Tomm-E

10-27-2007, 04:31 AM

Whatever lol i'm sure chopper would taste nice BBQ =P

tsunade666

10-27-2007, 04:56 AM

okay
now whats the bounty of kuma I forgot?
whats the name of the merman shichibukai?
corc = 90 M
flamingo = 280 M
moria = 320 M
kuma = ?
mihawk = ?
merman = ?
only one left maybe its kaito

Sigil_the_Great

10-27-2007, 06:19 AM

It was 296 million on Kuma, and 340 on Donflamingo

Tomm-E

10-27-2007, 08:13 AM

Croc was 80 wasn't he?

tsunade666

10-27-2007, 08:49 AM

huh don flamingo is 340?

I thought it was 280 M
and croc having 80 M
got to reread it their are many version of bounty

Tomm-E

10-27-2007, 11:18 AM

I'm going by the anime version.
Don was 346, I'm pretty sure.

Rakarth

10-27-2007, 02:58 PM

I would say that don is 340 also. Remeber that luffys new bounty was higher than kumas but that don had still bigger.
I might be wring though (just to lazy to reread the chapter:p)

Darkreaper70

10-27-2007, 04:11 PM

Donquixote Doflamingo is 340,000,000 millon beri, Gecko Moria is 320,000,000 and Luffy is 300,000,000 but Luffy owns Moria so

mucho

10-28-2007, 04:32 AM

and this is a little of the topic but why those the only the one piece amongthe 3 manga's that are above others doesn't have spoilers and special rules and other special threads its unlike the naruto and bleach threads

Because there are less plot holes, and little kids here =). And unlike the other two manga, there is just no way to predict OP, thus no point in those theories threads.