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Aussie Kid
04-21-2009, 11:45 PM
Hawkins seems to have a rather unusual ability and seems to be the most serene and calm of all the SN's. He also seems to be the most ruthless towards bystanders when it somes to battle as he killed those civilians as passing on the damge of Kizaru's kick to them. I believe that there is a lot of room to debate on Hawkin's ability. I also believe there is a lot of room to discuss his powers against the other SN's, as Shakky already said he was one of the top three SN's and his bounty reflects that.

Sheonite
04-21-2009, 11:48 PM
He uses cards. A simple magic trick: Luffy loves magic trick and I can so see him awing him in a fight...

Another time, this is like the seventh time...

Bedlam
04-21-2009, 11:50 PM
i think his power will be one of the more trickiest to overcome. i'd imagine a few strong opponents have tried to take him down only to hurt/kill themselves in the process of attacking him. i'm also very interested in his fortune telling ability. it seems like he has a mantra-like power in predicting the "fate" of people.

Aussie Kid
04-22-2009, 12:10 AM
He uses cards. A simple magic trick: Luffy loves magic trick and I can so see him awing him in a fight...

Another time, this is like the seventh time...
Yeah but he has other abilities too. and what do you mean by the seventh time?
i think his power will be one of the more trickiest to overcome. i'd imagine a few strong opponents have tried to take him down only to hurt/kill themselves in the process of attacking him. i'm also very interested in his fortune telling ability. it seems like he has a mantra-like power in predicting the "fate" of people.

Yeas, i thought he may have mantra too. I have been thinking mantra is a form of haki, and i have been wondering if he may have learnt to extend this haki into his DF abilities, i.e. his ability to make voodoo dolls out of himself.

Sheonite
04-22-2009, 12:12 AM
That was the seventh time it moved my post up a spot and forced me to have to erase it right after...

His DF isn't a logia and I think it is something to allow him to heal himself, it seems like he can use those dolls to heal back an arm or so. It's a paramecia type for sure and Kizaru was right about him being a freak.

Mulac
04-22-2009, 12:14 AM
Hawkins really seems to have thoroughly explored the limits of his devil fruit and other powers. He really does have a lot of variety. Turning into the scarecrow thing, doing voodoo on people to take the place of hits, his fortune telling ability. Will be interesting to see more of him in the future.

srsh
04-22-2009, 01:03 AM
Hawkin's powers seem so flexible. Plus I loved his confidence when dealing w/ Kizaru because he knew chance of dying = 0%

Using other people to take hits for him when he's attacked seems kinda wrong but then again he doesn't seem like much of a good guy. I wonder if there's a limit to how many people he can use to absorb hits.

He comes across as so calm & calculating, which makes me think he'd cause major issues for anybody if he had the time to sit down & make a plan.

Sheonite
04-22-2009, 01:06 AM
He seems like Robin's opponent... I suppose Robin would probably fight him since he can use those little voodoo dolls, maybe he can summon them somewhere.

DRrAGON
04-22-2009, 02:33 AM
Hawkin's powers seem so flexible. Plus I loved his confidence when dealing w/ Kizaru because he knew chance of dying = 0%

I agree about his confidence. I don't love his confidence but I admire it. ahahahah

Using other people to take hits for him when he's attacked seems kinda wrong but then again he doesn't seem like much of a good guy. I wonder if there's a limit to how many people he can use to absorb hits.

Whats wrong with using other people to take damages? What would anything he does be good? I thought the word, "pirate" mean bad people, which is why we all started reading OP, because its about pirates?

He comes across as so calm & calculating, which makes me think he'd cause major issues for anybody if he had the time to sit down & make a plan.

Yeah, u bet modafuka!!:thumbup:

Burnt Sienna
04-22-2009, 02:45 AM
shouldnt his DF be straw like arent the voodoos made of straw
and the cards cuz just be part of his magician thing

NPF
04-22-2009, 03:10 AM
I think his DF might be something like the doll doll fruit. He fought inside a giant doll, and transferred his damage to voodoo dolls. However that card trick he pulled really has me stumped. It can't be mantra since it's statistical and I seriously doubt it's haki since so far it's always been attack oriented.

It might have just been using the cards to calculate or view his thoughts. But who knows.

He is a magician, so we can assume to be surprised often by him. I'd really like to see him squaring off against Ussopp it would be so funny looking at the odds and seeing, probability of flight 100%, but I'm not going to run away?

And the Straw Straw fruit makes sense as well, but doesn't explain the voodoo unless magic is involved, or he has a super thin straw connecting him to other people where along that straw he transfers the attack.

Aussie Kid
04-22-2009, 06:58 PM
well traditionally voodo dolls used something from the targets body, usually hair or a nail.

Sheonite
04-22-2009, 07:59 PM
We'll see it on the anime soon enough and it'll be a lot more clear on how his DF works. Then again, it's not going to be a given if there are extra things on the anime.

My December
04-23-2009, 05:55 AM
His invincible for a few blows, that's for sure. However fatal the blow is, he would always survive, but I'm not sure how Kizaru's laser shot could harm him (Hawkins).

But he have a rather weak offense don't you think? I mean, knifes?
But it's an Admiral he's facing with. Probably that's why he look kinda having weak offense.

bob85
04-23-2009, 02:31 PM
His invincible for a few blows, that's for sure. However fatal the blow is, he would always survive, but I'm not sure how Kizaru's laser shot could harm him (Hawkins).

But he have a rather weak offense don't you think? I mean, knifes?
But it's an Admiral he's facing with. Probably that's why he look kinda having weak offense.

On the long run, he's pretty useless if he can't damage his opponent, but prolonging the battle, while using your crew is also a double sided blade. He's DF must have a requirement, i think, looking back from the battle with kizaru, aside he mentioning that there's few people around, meaning his crew, i think the distance of where his crew are right now is essential, considering the fact that Oda did show where the damage receive to the crew in their respective Groove. Other than that, If the crew bound to the df ability can't receive any more damages, or lose consciousness, he can't use the ability again, or so. And his transformation to the Demon form, i don't know how this transformation gives him any advantage, aside than a straw-build body, and a scary face. Other than that, we'll just have to wait and see.

My December
04-23-2009, 06:06 PM
And his transformation to the Demon form, i don't know how this transformation gives him any advantage, aside than a straw-build body, and a scary face. Other than that, we'll just have to wait and see.
I think he can't use his "damage transfer" technique when he is in straw-build body, so that's why Kizaru can hurt him during his transformation.

Like how Bon chan can't use his Ballet Kenpo when he transform.

Bedlam
04-23-2009, 06:10 PM
that makes me wonder how his DF power(s) really work. those two things seem to be very different types of skills. Damage transferring and transformation.

then again, we have a person like persona who can not only astral project, create illusions of herself and turn people negative but can also create ghost bombs.

NPF
04-24-2009, 12:57 AM
that makes me wonder how his DF power(s) really work. those two things seem to be very different types of skills. Damage transferring and transformation.

then again, we have a person like persona who can not only astral project, create illusions of herself and turn people negative but can also create ghost bombs.

That's why I assumed it wasn't straw but the Doll Doll fruit. He would be transforming himself into a doll and it would explain the voodoo (well kind of). Do we know Perona fruit. It's only speculation until now that's it the ghost fruit. I'm not even sure if the people who took the damage was his crew. Would a pirate really have such a cruel captain. I mean, you'd kind of know that the next fight you have good chances of dying.

I do believe My December to be absolutely right according to the fact he can only transfer damage in his non transformed form. Remember how the dolls fell out of his arm. Could that have been a form already different from his demon form?

bob85
04-24-2009, 09:17 AM
That's why I assumed it wasn't straw but the Doll Doll fruit. He would be transforming himself into a doll and it would explain the voodoo (well kind of). Do we know Perona fruit. It's only speculation until now that's it the ghost fruit. I'm not even sure if the people who took the damage was his crew. Would a pirate really have such a cruel captain. I mean, you'd kind of know that the next fight you have good chances of dying.

I do believe My December to be absolutely right according to the fact he can only transfer damage in his non transformed form. Remember how the dolls fell out of his arm. Could that have been a form already different from his demon form?

Yes, they can. I think if it was not his crew, maybe the voodoo like method is applied to it, maybe a piece of the victims hair to bind to use the ability. As for the demon form, i don't know if the ability of transferring the damage is apply, however, it bugs me to see how his real ability work. And does his prediction method have something to do with his df, or completely different from it.

frostflame2
04-24-2009, 12:38 PM
if we assumed that he merely didn't use his power when he got shot by kizaru so that kizaru would let his guard down and he could escape, then his power might be too strong.

Aussie Kid
06-15-2009, 04:30 PM
No, i think that he really was wounded by Kizaru and it wasnt just letting Kizaru's guard down. Its to risky an option and what if he doesn't? Kizaru could then kill him then and there.

chopper
06-15-2009, 09:34 PM
Hawkin's powers seem so flexible. Plus I loved his confidence when dealing w/ Kizaru because he knew chance of dying = 0%

Using other people to take hits for him when he's attacked seems kinda wrong but then again he doesn't seem like much of a good guy. I wonder if there's a limit to how many people he can use to absorb hits.

He comes across as so calm & calculating, which makes me think he'd cause major issues for anybody if he had the time to sit down & make a plan.

kind of op's shikamaru xD

and hawkins ability is very interesting and seems he trained his DF abilities to its upmost limit no wonder his moves vary and we haven't even seen half of his moves yet
and so far, his been the only sn to dodge at least one of kizaru's attack's
that gives youa hint of his power

Aussie Kid
06-15-2009, 11:19 PM
but isnt that when he's made of straw? is it possible he could have used that Cp9 move where your body is like paper.

methaniel
06-16-2009, 07:20 AM
but isnt that when he's made of straw? is it possible he could have used that Cp9 move where your body is like paper.

Well, actually Hawkins indeed didn't "avoided" any attack of Kizaru.
He received a load of them, but only survived because of his vodoo dolls transferring the damages (and yet, when he was in his giant scarecrow form, it seems he couldn't use his vodoo ability and so was hurt by Kizaru's attack at this time).
Also, I on't remember if it's clearly shown in the manga, but Kizaru attacked him a lot of time after he reverted to his normal form with his lasers for making him use all his vodoo dolls (he could have kill him since Hawkins didn't had any dolls left but Sentomarou called him at that moment so he stopped his attack and Hawkins collapsed)

Aussie Kid
06-16-2009, 04:33 PM
ahh, i didn't realise that that is what it meant, i asumed i missed something and that he had avoided an attack thanks for clearing that up methaniel.

chopper
06-16-2009, 05:48 PM
Well, actually Hawkins indeed didn't "avoided" any attack of Kizaru.
He received a load of them, but only survived because of his vodoo dolls transferring the damages (and yet, when he was in his giant scarecrow form, it seems he couldn't use his vodoo ability and so was hurt by Kizaru's attack at this time).
Also, I on't remember if it's clearly shown in the manga, but Kizaru attacked him a lot of time after he reverted to his normal form with his lasers for making him use all his vodoo dolls (he could have kill him since Hawkins didn't had any dolls left but Sentomarou called him at that moment so he stopped his attack and Hawkins collapsed)
that's true he didn't 'avoid' any of kizaru's attack but lets put it like this then; he did 'survive' several of kizaru's attack but obviously he couldn't keep that up any longer
his ability is very interesting, no wonder he has the third highest bounty of the SN's.
i would love to see more of him, i hope he doesn't die before we get to see him in action again

My December
06-18-2009, 07:57 AM
that's true he didn't 'avoid' any of kizaru's attack but lets put it like this then; he did 'survive' several of kizaru's attack but obviously he couldn't keep that up any longer
I think he could take 8 more attacks from Kizaru like that. He said he fights Kizaru with "10 men", but so far only 2 of those dolls were destroyed.
The only plausible explanation for this (which I have stated few posts ago) is when Hawkins changed into that scarecrow-like thingy, he can't use the "damage transfer" technique, enable Kizaru to hurt him.

methaniel
06-18-2009, 08:14 AM
I think he could take 8 more attacks from Kizaru like that. He said he fights Kizaru with "10 men", but so far only 2 of those dolls were destroyed.
The only plausible explanation for this (which I have stated few posts ago) is when Hawkins changed into that scarecrow-like thingy, he can't use the "damage transfer" technique, enable Kizaru to hurt him.

Actually, it's only in the anime but after Hawkins was knocked down after his scarerow form, Kizaru fired multiple beams at him, and you could see all his dolls being burnt.
Though if we sty true to the manga, he wasn't hit while being in scarecrow, Kizaru only blinded him and then Apoo atacked before Kizaru could do anything.
Hawkins reverted back to his normal form by himself in while Kizaru was blown up by Apoo. Though, while in this human form, he could avoid the laser of kizaru and was down by this attack. So I guess some kind of attacks are strangely enough not being absorbed by his dolls (I somehow prefer the anime version when Kizaru destroyed all his dolls, that seems more logical)

Aussie Kid
06-18-2009, 10:25 PM
Actually the people who died from the dolls weren't from his crew, they were random pirates who were fleeing the island.

methaniel
06-18-2009, 10:40 PM
Actually the people who died from the dolls weren't from his crew, they were random pirates who were fleeing the island.

Indeed, some people appeared to not even be pirates but normal citizens.
And his crew would be crasy for having a captain using them as sacrifice (and somehow, even is he has his vodoo dolls, I don't see Hawkins as the kind which would sacrifice his crew for not being hurt)

chopper
06-19-2009, 06:52 AM
Actually the people who died from the dolls weren't from his crew, they were random pirates who were fleeing the island.
if he could do that... damn then he can avoid kizaru's attack's all day
but even he knows he doesn't stand a chance so why did he turn into that scarecrow thingy since he can't do that damage transfer ability or whatever. but maybe there is a limit even if there is normal citizen's and not juts his ten men.

MajinX
06-19-2009, 09:24 AM
if he could do that... damn then he can avoid kizaru's attack's all day
but even he knows he doesn't stand a chance so why did he turn into that scarecrow thingy since he can't do that damage transfer ability or whatever. but maybe there is a limit even if there is normal citizen's and not juts his ten men.

there is obviously a limit or a constraint, i believe he must have made contact with the men who takes his damage, leave a string of straw on them or something. and he didnt know kizaru is a logia type so he would try to change to attack mode and deal some damage, he cant just defend all day long.

chopper
06-19-2009, 05:01 PM
there is obviously a limit or a constraint, i believe he must have made contact with the men who takes his damage, leave a string of straw on them or something. and he didnt know kizaru is a logia type so he would try to change to attack mode and deal some damage, he cant just defend all day long.
clever thinking there
i never thought of it like that
yeah it's possible, his connected with his men by a straw
but what about the citizen's? Is it possible that he is connected with them by a straw as well, which i highly doubt

frostflame2
06-19-2009, 06:35 PM
according to the anime, it's harder to see in the manga, but it's there, in his straw form, he got shot 8 times, and 8 dolls came out, so adding together the 2 from when he got shot before his transformation, that's all 10 of the dolls he had with him. he probably didn't make anymore then that, because he didn't expect to get attacked by an admiral and wouldn't need anymore then that, and he probably can't do it when he's in the middle of a fight(especially against an admiral) because he needs time to do it.

chopper
06-19-2009, 08:30 PM
according to the anime, it's harder to see in the manga, but it's there, in his straw form, he got shot 8 times, and 8 dolls came out, so adding together the 2 from when he got shot before his transformation, that's all 10 of the dolls he had with him. he probably didn't make anymore then that, because he didn't expect to get attacked by an admiral and wouldn't need anymore then that, and he probably can't do it when he's in the middle of a fight(especially against an admiral) because he needs time to do it.

well you are mistaken for one thing, since he clearly expects for the admiral to come
don't you remember?

Aussie Kid
06-20-2009, 01:23 AM
how about his limit is that he has had to have placed a peace of straw on them at some point, and that every time he uses a voodoo doll it saps him of energy.

The Martian Empire
06-20-2009, 04:08 AM
Since basil needs straw would anyone be shocked if Hawkins steals luffys hat and uses it as a vodoo it would be double the insult I could see luffy going into a berserk mode that would be crazy!

Zg-Jim
06-20-2009, 04:27 AM
did any one noticed his sword ?? This sword might be one of these 12 strongest sword and that would mean he is zorros opponent and it would also explain his high bounty. I mean it wouldnt surprise me when a man with such a high bounty ( eqal to jimbeis former on ;-) ) would posses scuh a sword!

and some side note does any noticed that hawkins looks like Joey Jordison from slipknot??? :-D
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Joeyjordison.jpg&filetimestamp=20080717215357

My December
06-20-2009, 06:03 PM
according to the anime, it's harder to see in the manga, but it's there, in his straw form, he got shot 8 times, and 8 dolls came out, so adding together the 2 from when he got shot before his transformation, that's all 10 of the dolls he had with him. he probably didn't make anymore then that, because he didn't expect to get attacked by an admiral and wouldn't need anymore then that, and he probably can't do it when he's in the middle of a fight(especially against an admiral) because he needs time to do it.
Now which one should we believe in then? The anime or the manga?
I'm still with the manga, saying Hawkin can't do the "damage transfer" technique when he turned into that scarecrow thing.
did any one noticed his sword ?? This sword might be one of these 12 strongest sword and that would mean he is zorros opponent and it would also explain his high bounty. I mean it wouldnt surprise me when a man with such a high bounty ( eqal to jimbeis former on ;-) ) would posses scuh a sword!
Isn't that a bit too hasty to say his sword is one of the strongest 12? Hawkins is a magician, not a swordsman. Besides, I don't see any swords, I only see him use some knifes (I haven't seen the anime though).

and some side note does any noticed that hawkins looks like Joey Jordison from slipknot??? :-D
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Joeyjordison.jpg&filetimestamp=20080717215357
Yes, people are aware of that since long before.

Unofficial
06-21-2009, 05:45 AM
Isn't that a bit too hasty to say his sword is one of the strongest 12? Hawkins is a magician, not a swordsman. Besides, I don't see any swords, I only see him use some knifes (I haven't seen the anime though).

He does carry a sword:
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000031071/14.jpg

Plus, "The Magician" is a title, not an indication to what his specialty really is... It's possible that he is called The Magician 'cause of the fact he likes to predict things and such... But I agree, we have yet to see him use that sword to safely say that he is a swordsman...

Moriean
06-21-2009, 09:25 AM
He might use it like Law does. To support his "magic" skills.
But we can say it's probably a strong sword. He's a strong guy, he won't use a sword thats weak.

frostflame2
06-21-2009, 10:17 PM
well you are mistaken for one thing, since he clearly expects for the admiral to come
don't you remember?
i don't remember him saying he was expecting an admiral attack, can you show the page, i can't find it. i do know he said it was unwise to fight an admiral with only 10 men, which means he at least underestimated an admirals strength.
Now which one should we believe in then? The anime or the manga?
I'm still with the manga, saying Hawkin can't do the "damage transfer" technique when he turned into that scarecrow thing.
these pics show that his eyes which should be destroyed by kizaru's laser, are perfectly fine, and that he doesn't have a scratch on him when he should be blasted full of holes, which means he can use his dolls to transfer attack damage, it just isn't clearly shown in the manga. this is one of reasons why the anime is helpful, it showed clearly what was almost misinterpreted.
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000069762/16.jpg

http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000069762/18.jpg

http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000071282/06.jpg

My December
06-22-2009, 06:43 AM
these pics show that his eyes which should be destroyed by kizaru's laser, are perfectly fine, and that he doesn't have a scratch on him when he should be blasted full of holes, which means he can use his dolls to transfer attack damage, it just isn't clearly shown in the manga. this is one of reasons why the anime is helpful, it showed clearly what was almost misinterpreted.
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000069762/16.jpg

http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000069762/18.jpg

http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000071282/06.jpg
The problem is, Kizaru didn't intend to shoot Hawkins' eyes with his lasers. He just wanted to blinded him with bright light.
So, we do what we always tell people to do. Stick to the manga, it's more canon.

frostflame2
06-22-2009, 01:16 PM
The problem is, Kizaru didn't intend to shoot Hawkins' eyes with his lasers. He just wanted to blinded him with bright light.
So, we do what we always tell people to do. Stick to the manga, it's more canon.
ok, so maybe he blinded him, but you missed the last panel on that first page, where he should still have 2 holes in his gut from when he was shot in that other form, but he doesn't, he didn't even fall down, suggesting that he either didn't take any damage or he transferred the damage when he was in that form. the fact that he grunted means he was attacked.

My December
06-23-2009, 09:55 AM
ok, so maybe he blinded him, but you missed the last panel on that first page, where he should still have 2 holes in his gut from when he was shot in that other form, but he doesn't, he didn't even fall down, suggesting that he either didn't take any damage or he transferred the damage when he was in that form. the fact that he grunted means he was attacked.
I'm not sure, but it's not like Kizaru wants to shot Hawkins with his laser in that panel either. It's more like Kizaru was "poking" Hawkin's body to see whether his body is logia or not (look at what Kizaru say in that panel).
If Kizaru really shots Hawkins with a laser in that panel, we would see those lasers pass through Hawkin's body.

frostflame2
06-23-2009, 01:42 PM
I'm not sure, but it's not like Kizaru wants to shot Hawkins with his laser in that panel either. It's more like Kizaru was "poking" Hawkin's body to see whether his body is logia or not (look at what Kizaru say in that panel).
If Kizaru really shots Hawkins with a laser in that panel, we would see those lasers pass through Hawkin's body.
even a poke is deadly at light speed, remember shigan, and that's not even at light speed. since there's a glow it means he was moving at the speed of light (or that we're seeing the frame inbetween shots), which would make shigan "pokes" leaving holes in hawkins body. also i doubt that kizaru wouldn't be trying to hurt hawkins, since they're enemies, and kizaru is rather ruthless, just look at what he was going to do to zoro. everything points to hawkins being able to transfer damage in both forms. remember, a previous discussion, was about, why hawkins didn't use the dolls after the last attack he took, now we know he couldn't because he had none left.

methaniel
06-23-2009, 08:22 PM
I don't know about the transfer in the 2 forms, but I would tend to think like Dec here, that he can't use it when in scarecrow form, because it may be requiring all of his power or something like this.
But I still don't think he received any attack when in scarecrow form (actually, even if I know it's "only" the anime, I don't remember Kizaru firing at him in this form, there was just like the manga, the blinding attack and before he could fire, Kizar was stoped by Apoo)
And the anime is actually more logical when making Kizaru fire all those beams at Hawkins after for removing all the dolls, cause I don't see why would he be that afraid of the beam in the manga if he knows he can avoid the damages some time

frostflame2
06-23-2009, 08:50 PM
ok, i just checked the ep again, (#402 at 13:53 kizaru is about to blind him) his body was shot multiple times, with some dolls having more then one wound on them. i did mix up that he got shot through the eyes, it was just a blinding light. and back to the manga, we see hawkins body recoiling twice along with kizaru's finger shining twice, also with a grunting sound coming from hawkins. so, either, hawkins likes to dance when he's getting "poked" or he's getting attacked.

ifilie45
08-02-2009, 02:31 AM
I could defintely see hawkins being really strong. just image if he found 5 guys that are as tough as zolo/luffy. he would be a really hard dude to take down. Plus he is really calm about things (which in my book is the scariest kinds of people) even when faced with kizaru. So, i really looking forward to seeing hawkins becuase of the way he is.

SoulSurvivor
09-20-2009, 01:25 AM
If you think about how he can make voodoo dolls of people, he could just take whatever thing he needs from the victim (hair, clothes, whatever) and then just attack a vital part of his body. That way, he would be able to kill the victim without damaging himself.

He should have been mortally wounded by Kizaru's attack, but he was barely fazed by the attack.

Rorschach215
10-24-2009, 07:01 PM
Basil Hawkins' DF is no doubt the power of straw. His card abilities are just something he does. Take for example those who have DF but also have other abilities. Particularly the character known as Ivankov. He can manipulate hormones, but is so physically powerful, that he can blow people away with a wink. However, the full extent of Hawkins' power has yet to be seen. But he's dangerous already. What if his power extended to create thousands of voodoo dolls?

Mig
10-24-2009, 08:57 PM
I find Hawkins to have one of the more awesome abilities out of the Supernovas (along with Law, Bonney and Capone). I'm pretty sure I agree with most in that he used voodoo dolls to transfer damage from him to other people.

I'm wondering if he can create such dolls for people hes fighting, so if hes attacked all the dmg returns to the attacker ^^.. could be a very deadly character later on.

Rorschach215
10-24-2009, 10:16 PM
No doubt. The voodoos and the scarecrow form are powerful. That's what makes Hawkins my favorite of the 11. I know this is off topic but could someone tell me the japanese word for fear or scare. In my fanfiction, I eat a Devil Fruit that lets me manipulate fear. Increase fear, remove fear, and create illusions of people's worst fear. I want to know what the fruit would be called in Japan.

TheAviator
10-24-2009, 10:19 PM
No doubt. The voodoos and the scarecrow form are powerful. That's what makes Hawkins my favorite of the 11. I know this is off topic but could someone tell me the japanese word for fear or scare. In my fanfiction, I eat a Devil Fruit that lets me manipulate fear. Increase fear, remove fear, and create illusions of people's worst fear. I want to know what the fruit would be called in Japan.

Wouldnt work on people like Luffy, WB, GR (whoes dead...), Shanks, Mihawk, or other top fighters

Dragonx
10-24-2009, 11:03 PM
He is smart and the best analyst among the supernovas. I would love to see someone joins SH crew like him or naruto shikamaru. Also chopper can analysis his opponent's weak point but we havent seen him to use that ability a long time

Rorschach215
10-25-2009, 12:03 AM
Wouldnt work on people like Luffy, WB, GR (whoes dead...), Shanks, Mihawk, or other top fighters

And just why wouldn't it? All living things feel fear. Besides, I can remove fear, turning my foes into suicidal daredevils. I could simply dare them into hurting themselves. But I do admit that those like Shanks and Mihawk would resist. But even those like Blackbeard and Moria would be affected. those two are bumbling idiots.

Rorschach215
10-25-2009, 12:08 AM
Anyway, anyone know if there is anything else hawkins can do? I've seen enough fruits to know that he's got more tricks up his sleeve.

Mollypop
10-25-2009, 01:46 AM
I think Basil Hawkin's is an experiment from Doctor Vegapunk!
heres his back story:
When Buggy cutted Luffy's Straw hat
the fibers from the straw hat flew bcuz DRAGON blew a powerful wind on that location!
the fiber ended up in Dr. Vegapunk's Laboratory!
He made the Fiber eat a DF!!!
THE FIBER CAME TO LIFE!!!!
THE FIBER DID BAD STUFF!!!
THE FIBER WANTED TO BE PIRAKE KING?!!
THE FIBER GATHERED THE WHITE HATING NAKAMAS THE KAYKAYKAY!
they went to SA
and they live happily ever after
before he met Kizaru
they are out to travel the NW!

Rorschach215
10-25-2009, 03:11 AM
I think Basil Hawkin's is an experiment from Doctor Vegapunk!
heres his back story:
When Buggy cutted Luffy's Straw hat
the fibers from the straw hat flew bcuz DRAGON blew a powerful wind on that location!
the fiber ended up in Dr. Vegapunk's Laboratory!
He made the Fiber eat a DF!!!
THE FIBER CAME TO LIFE!!!!
THE FIBER DID BAD STUFF!!!
THE FIBER WANTED TO BE PIRAKE KING?!!
THE FIBER GATHERED THE WHITE HATING NAKAMAS THE KAYKAYKAY!
they went to SA
and they live happily ever after
before he met Kizaru
they are out to travel the NW!

Whoever you are, I give you 100 points for one of the most creative ideas I have ever heard in my entire life. You write books? Cause it sounds like you were be a great author or story teller

Rorschach215
10-25-2009, 03:59 AM
By the by, just how did Vegapunk find a way for objects to absorb fruit? That's a little off, even for a bizarre world like One Piece

arvindeva
10-25-2009, 04:58 AM
By the by, just how did Vegapunk find a way for objects to absorb fruit? That's a little off, even for a bizarre world like One Piece

i wonder if objects could eat more than 1 fruit:confused:

i think basil hawkins has one of the most awesome power in one piece. i like the idea

Rorschach215
10-25-2009, 05:00 AM
What the idea of Basil being a straw that ate a fruit thanks to vegapunk?

Rorschach215
10-25-2009, 05:51 AM
Anyway, what do you think his fruit would be called in america? the straw straw fruit seems to be the obvious one.

morhkt
10-25-2009, 06:24 AM
Voodoo Voodoo Fruit maybe? He's not just straw, more like a voodoo doll.

Rorschach215
10-25-2009, 06:27 AM
Voodoo Voodoo Fruit maybe? He's not just straw, more like a voodoo doll.

Good point right there. Ever way, he's dangerous and my favorite supernova.

ntk
10-25-2009, 08:46 AM
Basically he's scarecrow, I think he learned about the voodoo stuff on his own, as he is a magician, and it's quite a good idea for somebody who doesn't give a **** on his fodder nakama to use them as a shield to be honest.

Rorschach215
10-25-2009, 08:56 AM
Basically he's scarecrow, I think he learned about the voodoo stuff on his own, as he is a magician, and it's quite a good idea for somebody who doesn't give a **** on his fodder nakama to use them as a shield to be honest.

Forgot about that. the only thing about him i don't like.

Juracule
10-25-2009, 02:31 PM
i wonder if objects could eat more than 1 fruit:confused:

i think basil hawkins has one of the most awesome power in one piece. i like the idea
The thing is, I think Vegapunk found a way for objects to "eat" a Zoan Devil Fruit and not Devil Fruit in general. If the objects eats a Zoan, he becomes a living oganism. But if a gun eats, say, Kizaru's Pika Pika no Mi, he remains as a gun but gains the ability to create light lazers. People might be able to press on the trigger and fire a lazer, but the gun itself cannot do it, because he's not alive. But if, for example, a table eats the Pika Pika no Mi, he wouldn't be able to use the power, and people wouldn't be able to use its power as well, unlike the case with the gun. So it's more logical that Vegapunk forced objects to eat a Zoan DF, because then the object is alive and can use it's power on its own whenever it wants.

Rorschach215
10-26-2009, 12:56 AM
The thing is, I think Vegapunk found a way for objects to "eat" a Zoan Devil Fruit and not Devil Fruit in general. If the objects eats a Zoan, he becomes a living oganism. But if a gun eats, say, Kizaru's Pika Pika no Mi, he remains as a gun but gains the ability to create light lazers. People might be able to press on the trigger and fire a lazer, but the gun itself cannot do it, because he's not alive. But if, for example, a table eats the Pika Pika no Mi, he wouldn't be able to use the power, and people wouldn't be able to use its power as well, unlike the case with the gun. So it's more logical that Vegapunk forced objects to eat a Zoan DF, because then the object is alive and can use it's power on its own whenever it wants.

I never thought about that. So, an object eating a logia is out of the question. How about a paramecia? Would some paramecia work?

The Martian Empire
10-26-2009, 03:56 AM
I never thought about that. So, an object eating a logia is out of the question. How about a paramecia? Would some paramecia work?

It would depend on the fruit and item an example a sword and a hole hole fruit. Would give you a sword that can cut space. Something like that. Hawkins is a badass and I think he's a future shichibukia.

Rorschach215
10-26-2009, 04:50 AM
Hawkins is a badass and I think he's a future shichibukia.

agree with you 100%

SoulSurvivor
10-26-2009, 11:18 PM
I think Hawkins got defeated too easily by Kizaru. I know Kizaru is an Admiral and a logia user, but I don't think Hawkins is strong enough for the Shichibukai.

Rorschach215
10-27-2009, 01:18 AM
I think Hawkins got defeated too easily by Kizaru. I know Kizaru is an Admiral and a logia user, but I don't think Hawkins is strong enough for the Shichibukai.

Why do you say that? Hawkins, alongside Kidd and Law are the perfect candidates to be warlords out of the supernovas.

SoulSurvivor
10-27-2009, 01:21 AM
Why do you say that? Hawkins, alongside Kidd and Law are the perfect candidates to be warlords out of the supernovas.

Since Kidd and Law were "involved" with the Tenryubito(?) event, they are out of the running.

Yes, Hawkins has a higher chance than most, but it would just seem as if he were a last-moment remedy to the Shichibukai's problems. I just think the current Shichibukai (and Croc.) are all at a vastly superior level.

arvindeva
10-27-2009, 01:22 AM
i think he will play yugi oh at raftel

Rorschach215
10-27-2009, 01:26 AM
Since Kidd and Law were "involved" with the Tenryubito(?) event, they are out of the running.

Yes, Hawkins has a higher chance than most, but it would just seem as if he were a last-moment remedy to the Shichibukai's problems. I just think the current Shichibukai (and Croc.) are all at a vastly superior level.

Oh I already know that. I just figured that if any of the supernovas became warlords, it'd be him.

Myth
10-27-2009, 01:44 AM
Idk I kinda saw all of the supernovas as filler characters that'll get beat by Law and Kid in the NW. Then Luffy will beat Law and KId and continue on. My personal wish is for Law to join SH :) he's so ****ing chill I love it haha

Rorschach215
10-27-2009, 01:55 AM
Idk I kinda saw all of the supernovas as filler characters that'll get beat by Law and Kid in the NW. Then Luffy will beat Law and KId and continue on. My personal wish is for Law to join SH :) he's so ****ing chill I love it haha

You know, I actually could see Law joining the crew. But I think he should meet Ace, I notice some similarities between the two and it would be cool to see an encounter between Ace and Law.

johnrich
10-27-2009, 04:47 AM
ummm...sorry but back to hawkins, maybe his powers are more closely related to real voodoo and he needs a piece of a person for it to work(hair for instance), and if thats the case then with only ten crewmembers he could collect several hairs, and to explain how he only got attacked about ten times maybe theres a limit to the distance of his powers.
and as for his fortune telling maybe it is also related to is DF powers bec of the voodoo concept

Rorschach215
10-27-2009, 04:55 AM
ummm...sorry but back to hawkins, maybe his powers are more closely related to real voodoo and he needs a piece of a person for it to work(hair for instance), and if thats the case then with only ten crewmembers he could collect several hairs, and to explain how he only got attacked about ten times maybe theres a limit to the distance of his powers.
and as for his fortune telling maybe it is also related to is DF powers bec of the voodoo concept

Can powers develop over time? Maybe Hawkins could eventually create up to hundreds of voodoo dolls. And maybe his fruit gives him other powers we don't know about.

johnrich
10-27-2009, 04:58 AM
maybe they can or maybe they dont and the users dont really know the full extent of their powers i mean look at luffy in the beginning he didnt know about gear 2nd or 3rd and now look at him

Rorschach215
10-27-2009, 05:07 AM
Hawkins was already dangerous. Although he can redirect damage with his dolls, is he able to control the movements of people through the dolls? Like voodoos in other fiction?

johnrich
10-27-2009, 05:23 AM
maybe he can after all we only got a few pages vaguely showing the extent of his powers, for all we know he could pull a gecko moria and pull out some real zombies like real voodoo supposedly is able to do

Rorschach215
10-27-2009, 05:33 AM
maybe he can after all we only got a few pages vaguely showing the extent of his powers, for all we know he could pull a gecko moria and pull out some real zombies like real voodoo supposedly is able to do

That'd be cool. And he could make the marine people fight each other instead of his crew.

johnrich
10-27-2009, 05:36 AM
it would be cool but i think that power is already used by Donquixote Doflamingo at least to some extent

Rorschach215
10-27-2009, 05:41 AM
it would be cool but i think that power is already used by Donquixote Doflamingo at least to some extent

Forgot about that. Bummer, it would be cool if Hawkins could do that.

johnrich
10-27-2009, 02:51 PM
yeah it would be really cool

Yuki N ...
10-27-2009, 02:57 PM
His ability is like pseudo-logia. But I doubt his DF ability is his main option of offense. I think he really IS a magician.

johnrich
10-27-2009, 04:03 PM
he very well could be a real magician and maybe its something taught to him on his home island

The Martian Empire
10-27-2009, 05:18 PM
Okay if he is a magician then he must be a scarecrow zoan then? I think the cards and voodoo are his magic abilities but the whole transforming thing must be a zoan fruit.

frostflame2
10-27-2009, 05:35 PM
i don't think magic actually exists in OP, the card thing is probably a trick that he figured out while testing his df, or maybe he's just good at calculating. also his df, probably isn't a zoan, but a paramecia, like bellamy, where his (bellamy's) fruit turned his legs into springs.

Mig
10-27-2009, 05:36 PM
Okay if he is a magician then he must be a scarecrow zoan then? I think the cards and voodoo are his magic abilities but the whole transforming thing must be a zoan fruit.

No the Voodoo dolls and turning into a Voodoo Doll thing are the same power, Paramecia most likely.

Rorschach215
10-27-2009, 05:49 PM
No the Voodoo dolls and turning into a Voodoo Doll thing are the same power, Paramecia most likely.

It'd have to be. Zoan fruits are living creature based. Actual animals. It would have to be a paramecia type. As for whether or not magic exists in One Piece, I couldn't say. But then it would defeat the purpose of DFs, wouldn't it?

ntk
10-27-2009, 06:17 PM
Well he's probably more the illusionist guy like David Copperfield or Chris Angel and thus confusing his enemies he can attack them better when being a scarecrow.
I refuse to think that being a scarecrow he automatically has his voodoo dolls in his body. I think the voodoo dolls are more likely part of him being a magician. Makes more sense to me.

Mig
10-27-2009, 06:19 PM
It'd have to be. Zoan fruits are living creature based. Actual animals. It would have to be a paramecia type. As for whether or not magic exists in One Piece, I couldn't say. But then it would defeat the purpose of DFs, wouldn't it?

Eh, he could probably get away with some little use of magic without it messing with DF's, just some things to give him an edge.

In any case I don't think he does actual magic, I think his "Magician" nickname comes from the fact that he seems invincible (not taking damage) and the transformation he does.

Mig
10-27-2009, 06:20 PM
Well he's probably more the illusionist guy like David Copperfield or Chris Angel and thus confusing his enemies he can attack them better when being a scarecrow.
I refuse to think that being a scarecrow he automatically has his voodoo dolls in his body. I think the voodoo dolls are more likely part of him being a magician. Makes more sense to me.


That makes absolutely no sense at all, since when in One Piece has there EVER been a power as strong and unique as his that hasn't been a DF?

Never, thats when.

Since when in One Piece has there ever been literal MAGIC or Magicians?

Never, thats when.

frostflame2
10-27-2009, 06:26 PM
Eh, he could probably get away with some little use of magic without it messing with DF's, just some things to give him an edge.

In any case I don't think he does actual magic, I think his "Magician" nickname comes from the fact that he seems invincible (not taking damage) and the transformation he does.
i think rorshach meant, that if there was actual magic in OP, then there'd be no point in having a df, as magic could do the same thing, without gaining the weakness of being a hammer in the water, or any other weakness a df has.

Mig
10-27-2009, 06:27 PM
i think rorshach meant, that if there was actual magic in OP, then there'd be no point in having a df, as magic could do the same thing, without gaining the weakness of being a hammer in the water, or any other weakness a df has.

I know what he meant, which is why I said "a little use of magic" meaning nothing that a DF couldn't do 100x better, I even said I don't believe it exists.. Please, I know how to read -_-

Rorschach215
10-27-2009, 06:56 PM
Still, magic would make things interesting. Luffy would be so amused if he saw someone doing magic.

Yuki N ...
10-27-2009, 09:36 PM
Since when in One Piece has there ever been literal MAGIC or Magicians?

I meant something like ntk said, real world magicians who use lies, deception, optical illusions and trickery. Of course, I know his DF is Paramecia, but it's pseudo-logia, just like Buggy is immune to sword slashes and Luffy is immune to punches.

Rorschach215
10-27-2009, 09:38 PM
I meant something like ntk said, real world magicians who use lies, deception, optical illusions and trickery. Of course, I know his DF is Paramecia, but it's pseudo-logia, just like Buggy is immune to sword slashes and Luffy is immune to punches.

Who knows? Maybe Hawkins knows some sleight of hand tricks up his sleeve.

Mig
10-27-2009, 09:41 PM
I meant something like ntk said, real world magicians who use lies, deception, optical illusions and trickery. Of course, I know his DF is Paramecia, but it's pseudo-logia, just like Buggy is immune to sword slashes and Luffy is immune to punches.

How is it "pseudo-logia" ? That term really annoys me..

Don't you remember Kizaru telling him "I don't know what ability you posess, but you are 'solid', meaning you aren't a logia type.."

I'm assuming you mean his dolls (aka crew men) taking damage = pseudo logia but that really isn't the right term to use..

In fact that term shouldn't be used ever because the examples you listed really don't make them "fake/false logia" as thats what pseudo logia means.

Yuki N ...
10-27-2009, 09:44 PM
Who knows? Maybe Hawkins knows some sleight of hand tricks up his sleeve.

Yes, that's what I mean, like attacks that you see as a beam but is actually a punch ...

How is it "pseudo-logia" ? That term really annoys me..

Don't you remember Kizaru telling him "I don't know what ability you posess, but you are 'solid', meaning you aren't a logia type.."

I'm assuming you mean his dolls (aka crew men) taking damage = pseudo logia but that really isn't the right term to use..

In fact that term shouldn't be used ever because the examples you listed really don't make them "fake/false logia" as thats what pseudo logia means.

Absorbing damage is like a logia's ability of letting damage pass through. You're being too serious man. It's like a poor man's logia.

Rorschach215
10-27-2009, 09:45 PM
How is it "pseudo-logia" ? That term really annoys me..

Don't you remember Kizaru telling him "I don't know what ability you posess, but you are 'solid', meaning you aren't a logia type.."

I'm assuming you mean his dolls (aka crew men) taking damage = pseudo logia but that really isn't the right term to use..

In fact that term shouldn't be used ever because the examples you listed really don't make them "fake/false logia" as thats what pseudo logia means.

I truly do wonder how the voodoo thing works. I mean, how does the ability to produce voodoo dolls actually make them work like voodoo dolls?

Mig
10-27-2009, 10:14 PM
I truly do wonder how the voodoo thing works. I mean, how does the ability to produce voodoo dolls actually make them work like voodoo dolls?

It's just like most DF's.. certain details are better left unexplained.

lopata
10-27-2009, 10:18 PM
so who do you guys think he will fight with one of the strawhat member ?
who will be the lucky guy ? )))
cant imagine who can fight him ...

Rorschach215
10-27-2009, 11:10 PM
so who do you guys think he will fight with one of the strawhat member ?
who will be the lucky guy ? )))
cant imagine who can fight him ...

I say sweet Robin-chan would be the best choice.

SoulSurvivor
10-27-2009, 11:28 PM
so who do you guys think he will fight with one of the strawhat member ?
who will be the lucky guy ? )))
cant imagine who can fight him ...

SUPER Franky!
Fresh Fire!

I don't know how much of a role Hawkins will play in the future. If the manga continues at the rate is has been going, he is sure to make another appearance, probably with another one of the SuperNovas.

Rorschach215
10-27-2009, 11:30 PM
SUPER Franky!
Fresh Fire!

I don't know how much of a role Hawkins will play in the future. If the manga continues at the rate is has been going, he is sure to make another appearance, probably with another one of the SuperNovas.

Franky too. I chose Robin-chan because she could arms appear and immobilize him before he could do anything. Hawkins is my favorite supernova, but Robin-chan's power is pretty handy.

johnrich
10-28-2009, 04:04 AM
bad pun bad pun and i believe that he wont play a very sigificant role in the future but who knows

Rorschach215
10-28-2009, 04:08 AM
Who did a bad pun?

morhkt
10-28-2009, 04:15 AM
Robin-chan's power is pretty handy. = bad pun

Rorschach215
10-28-2009, 04:24 AM
= bad pun

Gack! That was not my intention. I naturally say that. I did not mean it like that at all. No pun was intended, I assure you. The pun thing didn't even occur to me. Fine then, Robin-chan's power would be effective against him. Is that better?

johnrich
10-28-2009, 04:40 AM
much better but with that sword or his claws he could do some serious damage to robin

Rorschach215
10-28-2009, 05:02 AM
I know, but she could immobilize him before he could get close. I say could because it's all a matter of how fast Hawkins moves to attack her. Aside from Robin-chan, Franky would do good too. Most of the stronger straw hats would give him a good fight. But Hawkins could use his dolls to block most of the attacks.

ntk
10-28-2009, 07:44 AM
Well but remember when Robin fought Zoro's zombie. She's physically inferior to Hawkins as well (I think) and if she hasn't become tha muscle woman on her slavery island she will still be physically inferior. Point is: She's probably not able to immobilize Hawkins for too long.

lopata
10-28-2009, 09:34 AM
I don't know how much of a role Hawkins will play in the future.

d'oh..

so you didnt understand the Supernova thing yet ?

there are 9 in total without zoroluffy.
and everyone of them will fight in the future with the crew.
luffy-kid
chopper-that guy with wings
brook-apoo.
etc etc

they just introduced new villains that they will fight in the new World :)

Rorschach215
10-28-2009, 12:16 PM
d'oh..

so you didnt understand the Supernova thing yet ?

there are 9 in total without zoroluffy.
and everyone of them will fight in the future with the crew.
luffy-kid
chopper-that guy with wings
brook-apoo.
etc etc

they just introduced new villains that they will fight in the new World :)

good idea Brook vs Apoo. Music vs Music
Who do you think Usopp should fight?

lopata
10-28-2009, 12:47 PM
usopp should fight that mafia guy)) maybe xD
cause he can also shoot from his body.. i mean its related to guns...
and usopp is a perfect rival for that)

Rorschach215
10-28-2009, 12:49 PM
usopp should fight that mafia guy)) maybe xD
cause he can also shoot from his body.. i mean its related to guns...
and usopp is a perfect rival for that)

:D Good point.

La Roche
10-28-2009, 01:03 PM
d'oh..

so you didnt understand the Supernova thing yet ?

there are 9 in total without zoroluffy.
and everyone of them will fight in the future with the crew.
luffy-kid
chopper-that guy with wings
brook-apoo.
etc etc

they just introduced new villains that they will fight in the new World :)

I doubt those fights will happen. That would mean the Strawhat Pirate (1) own other competitor Pirates (8).
One thing I want to know about Hawkin's power is how he choose the persons to be sacrificed.

lopata
10-28-2009, 03:31 PM
no, in the first episodes luffy said that he would like to have 10 nakama's..
so after they gather all of them, in the new world they will meet again with those supernovas.. though not all of them in one time xD

every supernova has similar abilities with a member from StrawHat Crew. thus they will fight in teh near future :)

My December
10-28-2009, 04:25 PM
Things are getting pretty off-topic in here >_>

One thing I want to know about Hawkin's power is how he choose the persons to be sacrificed.
It could be that he didn't choose those people to be sacrificed. Probably those damages just transferred to anyone random people around him within certain radius of area.
Those men who were sacrificed doesn't seem like Hawkin's crew. So I doubt they ever made contact with Hawkins.

The Martian Empire
10-28-2009, 04:27 PM
Things are getting pretty off-topic in here >_>


It could be that he didn't choose those people to be sacrificed. Probably those damages just transferred to anyone random people around him within certain radius of area.
Those men who were sacrificed doesn't seem like Hawkin's crew. So I doubt they ever made contact with Hawkins.

I like that idea but personally Id like him to master it so he can transfer it to anyone. That would be sick. He cant do it yet or he would have transferred his damage to Kizaru.

Mig
10-28-2009, 04:27 PM
no, in the first episodes luffy said that he would like to have 10 nakama's..
so after they gather all of them, in the new world they will meet again with those supernovas.. though not all of them in one time xD

every supernova has similar abilities with a member from StrawHat Crew. thus they will fight in teh near future :)

No they dont, Zero Supernovas have similar abilities to ANY strawhat.

Also Luffy only said "around 10 sounds good" but that doesn't limit it to ONLY 10

My December
10-28-2009, 04:33 PM
I like that idea but personally Id like him to master it so he can transfer it to anyone. That would be sick. He cant do it yet or he would have transferred his damage to Kizaru.
That is what I thought too. If Hawkins had set up his sacrifice through contacts (either physical or non-physical), he could've set Kizaru as his sacrifice. So any of Kizaru's attacks would be transferred back to him.
Since Hawkins didn't do that, I doubt Hawkins choose his sacrifice. It would be only mean that he damage goes to random people.

Mig
10-28-2009, 04:41 PM
That is what I thought too. If Hawkins had set up his sacrifice through contacts (either physical or non-physical), he could've set Kizaru as his sacrifice. So any of Kizaru's attacks would be transferred back to him.
Since Hawkins didn't do that, I doubt Hawkins choose his sacrifice. It would be only mean that he damage goes to random people.

Well either he just doesn't know how (or can't)

But one thing I know about the fictional Voodoo Dolls is that you need a piece of clothing/hair/something of personal value from the person to be able to create a doll of them. It was obvious Kizaru's onslaught was too fast for him to be able to do that.

Either that or it requires some other circumstance which he wasn't able to complete at SA

Rorschach215
10-28-2009, 04:59 PM
Well either he just doesn't know how (or can't)

But one thing I know about the fictional Voodoo Dolls is that you need a piece of clothing/hair/something of personal value from the person to be able to create a doll of them. It was obvious Kizaru's onslaught was too fast for him to be able to do that.

Either that or it requires some other circumstance which he wasn't able to complete at SA

That reminds me, didn't the dolls he used to defend himself from Kizaru have pieces of clothing on them?

johnrich
10-28-2009, 11:18 PM
yes they do have clothes

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/508/12/

Rorschach215
10-28-2009, 11:29 PM
shouldnt his DF be straw like arent the voodoos made of straw
and the cards cuz just be part of his magician thing

I'm pretty certain you're right. Otherwise he couldn't become that scarecrow thing.

lopata
10-28-2009, 11:39 PM
No they dont, Zero Supernovas have similar abilities to ANY strawhat.

Also Luffy only said "around 10 sounds good" but that doesn't limit it to ONLY 10

are you retarded ?
10 is ENOUGH mates -_-

plus they HAVE similar abilities...
re-watch the arc please -_-
and brook is now on Apoo's land
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/zetruz/apooandhomeland.jpg

Rorschach215
10-28-2009, 11:47 PM
are you retarded ?
10 is ENOUGH mates -_-

plus they HAVE similar abilities...
re-watch the arc please -_-
and brook is now on Apoo's land
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/zetruz/apooandhomeland.jpg

Tell that to all the different pirates who have beyond 10 crewmates. The only person who wouldn't mind less crewmates is Jack Sparrow, and he doesn't exist there.

Six6Iv
10-29-2009, 01:45 AM
i dont think he ate the straw straw fruit because if it is cant he just reattach himself back together like knitting a straw hat instead of using human sacrifices.

Rorschach215
10-29-2009, 02:21 AM
i dont think he ate the straw straw fruit because if it is cant he just reattach himself back together like knitting a straw hat instead of using human sacrifices.

So what do you think his fruit power is?

Aussie Kid
10-29-2009, 09:32 AM
maybe a voodo- voodo fruit or a .... dont know the correct word to some it all up but basically black magic. Random thought, what if Hawkins originates from that group that "summoned" Brook and got attacked by the long arms tribe

Mig
10-29-2009, 12:33 PM
are you retarded ?
10 is ENOUGH mates -_-

plus they HAVE similar abilities...
re-watch the arc please -_-
and brook is now on Apoo's land
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/zetruz/apooandhomeland.jpg

Anime isn't completely canon, find me the chapter were Luffy says he will stop recruiting no matter what at 10 crew. Does Oda even confirm this?

No they don't have similar abilities, explain to me which Supernovas have abilities similar to Straw Hats? None of them.

No need to call me retarded, guy.

lopata
10-29-2009, 08:35 PM
explain to me which Supernovas have abilities similar to Straw Hats? None of them.



how are you watching/reading one ?

luffy - kid

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/thumb/0/0e/Kid.wmv.GIF/180px-Kid.wmv.GIF

his repel atack is liek gomu-pistol..
and that big arm - giant pistol...

brook-apoo.

That bear (Law's nakama)- sanji.
Killer - zoro
that giant dude - chopper monster point

i dont think if they really will fight in the future, but it makes sense...
why did he even introduced them ?
it is obviously that they will meet in teh future


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luffy said to coby he wanted 10 nakama's in teh crew..
he said that 10 would be enough

Mig
10-29-2009, 10:17 PM
how are you watching/reading one ?

luffy - kid

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/thumb/0/0e/Kid.wmv.GIF/180px-Kid.wmv.GIF

his repel atack is liek gomu-pistol..
and that big arm - giant pistol...

brook-apoo.

That bear (Law's nakama)- sanji.
Killer - zoro
that giant dude - chopper monster point

i dont think if they really will fight in the future, but it makes sense...
why did he even introduced them ?
it is obviously that they will meet in teh future


----
luffy said to coby he wanted 10 nakama's in teh crew..
he said that 10 would be enough



You said SUPERNOVAS, Bepo is just a crewmate, so is John Bart.

Kidds attacks are in no way like Luffys, unless you consider punching to be similar, but almost everyone punches..

NPF
11-05-2009, 09:59 AM
Hey,

Well I've noticed that not many people have commentated on his statistics ability of late. So I'd just like to reinforce saying it's mantra. Because this http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000068412/07.jpg

makes me think of the priest and there percentages

http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/00000246/20.jpg

So I'd say he is just really, really good at mantra. Plus it isn't an overly hacked ability since I think it can be "canceled" so to say by "chance"

http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/00000254/11.jpg

Or it's just Oda showing off enel (or enel showing off). And yeah I now agree with the general straw voodoo fruit thing.

Nemrut
11-07-2009, 10:04 AM
I was wondering about his crew, it seems to me his ability is to transfer any damage he receives to those he created voodoo dolls from, and he "only" made ten dolls, hence why Kizaru started to do damage after the ten were used up.

On the other hand, his crew seemed surprised when it happened, shouldn't they know his ability by now? Also what kind of crew sticks with a guy who uses his crew as meat shields? Other then that I would assume his prediction abilities are connected to his DF abilities, which should be more then those he has shown. His main fighting style is maybe taking a piece of the opponent with the nails and transfer any damage the enemy does back to him by creating a voodoo doll out of him. (which would be similar to Hidan from Naruto)

But seeing that he can't get a piece from a logia user I would think he is pretty helpless against those.

That is what I like and also dislike about Haki, right now, Smoker probably would have been able to fight ALL Supernovas at once, since no one can hurt him. At best they would manage to escape from him. But with Haki, logias seem to loose all advantages they previously had, hmm we need to see more Haki vs Logia battles. There should be a middle ground.

Captain-of-Hundred-Plans
01-10-2010, 10:19 AM
I like this character. His glacial style and unique ability interests me