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psychotic

10-14-2007, 05:00 AM

I really want the claymore manga back, since the anime is over. So anyone thinks that Galatea may die? Clarice has good control of that claymore child.

I dont think clarice is controlling miata...remember in the last 2 pages of chapter 73, clarice said she was "more scared of miata" than the yomas. she is just trying to stay alive, fearing that miata may someday turn on her because of her mental instability.

Originally Posted by Tensa Zangetsu View Post
uhhhhh so if a powerful claymore awakens then can she regain her consiocness and control themselves? (for example Ophellia, or luciela)

yes. every claymore that has awakened have regained their consciousness from rosemary to priscilla, and control over themselves.

they just cant control eating guts.

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being new here guys, so if the thread reaches 20 pages, we have to post on another thread?

Hynavian

10-14-2007, 07:49 AM

I really want the claymore manga back, since the anime is over. So anyone thinks that Galatea may die? Clarice has good control of that claymore child.
No! I don't think so. Galatea will not die!!! (You're seeing a Galatea fan here.)

I agree with you that Clarice has good control over Miata. Eg: Clarice says go east, Miata goes East etc. However, do keep in mind that their mission is to kill Galatea (...sad..) However, I think Clarice is more emotional and has much more common sense. She might end up directly contradicting the organisation order and join the renegrades! <--- actually this is what I'm hoping.

I dont think clarice is controlling miata...remember in the last 2 pages of chapter 73, clarice said she was "more scared of miata" than the yomas. she is just trying to stay alive, fearing that miata may someday turn on her because of her mental instability.

Good point there. Though Clarice is terrified of Miata's prowess, she has a good overall grip over her. She can be assured that Miata won't turn on her for now (as Miata saved her butt from a Yoma), and that Miata is a good kid that listens to only the orders of Clarice.

being new here guys, so if the thread reaches 20 pages, we have to post on another thread?
Yup you got that right. But don't worry much about this now as our new moderator is quite active and knows when to make a new thread :) The members had to monitor the pages in the past and it was a confusing experience.

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Tensa Zangetsu

10-14-2007, 08:31 AM

No! I don't think so. Galatea will not die!!! (You're seeing a Galatea fan here.)

ima galatea fan here too but that doesnt stop the author from killing off characters we love like flora and jean (although i never knew flora too well except i loved her quote on no regrets about who lives and who dies and whoever lives carrys on for all 24 of us or something like that)

as for awakened beings, i thot if they could control themselves then they could be good people too that eat other stuff like sushi or something :thumbup:...

hollywoodlou

10-14-2007, 05:41 PM

WTH!? I party all night and wake up to thread # 7!

I dont think clarice is controlling miata...remember in the last 2 pages of chapter 73, clarice said she was "more scared of miata" than the yomas. she is just trying to stay alive, fearing that miata may someday turn on her because of her mental instability.

Good point there. Though Clarice is terrified of Miata's prowess, she has a good overall grip over her. She can be assured that Miata won't turn on her for now (as Miata saved her butt from a Yoma), and that Miata is a good kid that listens to only the orders of Clarice.

I'm more inclined with rookie there. Clarice is scared BUT at the same time very motherly to Miata. I know she's just following orders to be her "assistant" as well. Unfortunately, I still think that Miata may attempt a fatal strike on Clarice. It could be unintentional but when you have a mentally unstable monster on your hands, you are sure not to let your guard down.

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I really want the claymore manga back, since the anime is over. So anyone thinks that Galatea may die? Clarice has good control of that claymore child.

No! I don't think so. Galatea will not die!!! (You're seeing a Galatea fan here.)

ma galatea fan here too but that doesnt stop the author from killing off characters we love like flora and jean (although i never knew flora too well except i loved her quote on no regrets about who lives and who dies and whoever lives carrys on for all 24 of us or something like that)

First, we're not sure if that's Galatea. It could be Raphaela, or another Claymore we haven't heard of.

2nd, With Galatea being established as a "power player" in the series where her name alone sounds like a brand', I doubt Yagi-san will "whack" her quickly. I feel she has a mission to accomplish, yet I don't know what. Regarding Flora and Undine and Veronica etc, I understood why they were killed...to give space to the 7. With the introduction of Clarice, Miata and the inevitable rise of Alicia/Beth, there are too many characters in the series.
Of course, I was pissed that Flora was killed, but it was the hopeless situation they were in in the 1st place.

However, I think Clarice is more emotional and has much more common sense. She might end up directly contradicting the organisation order and join the renegrades! <--- actually this is what I'm hoping.

At this point, I dont see it, prezzy. Clarice is too weak, and is playing mommy' to a monster in Miata. There is a mystery about Clarice that I cant put my finger on. And NO, it's not about that stupid theory that Clarice is actually Raki.:lol:

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It's Monday in your part of town.

Hynavian

10-14-2007, 06:08 PM

First, we're not sure if that's Galatea. It could be Raphaela, or another Claymore we haven't heard of.
Yup it can be the others too but I want it to be Galatea instead!
I want more manga page time for my beauty queen.

2nd, With Galatea being established as a "power player" in the series where her name alone sounds like a brand', I doubt Yagi-san will "whack" her quickly. I feel she has a mission to accomplish, yet I don't know what. Regarding Flora and Undine and Veronica etc, I understood why they were killed...to give space to the 7. With the introduction of Clarice, Miata and the inevitable rise of Alicia/Beth, there are too many characters in the series.
If Galatea appars in the next chapter and gets killed in the next chapter, I will awaken in this forum and tear myself apart. I wanted so long just to see a chapter of Galatea where she get herself killed by a combi of kiddo claymore and and a failed Claymore.

May the Claymore god have some pity on Galatea fans!!!

Of course, I was pissed that Flora was killed, but it was the hopeless situation they were in in the 1st place.
I second your thoughts. That's the reason why I made so many banners for Flora during her week. Cause she's a great character that appeared was at the wrong place at the wrong time.

At this point, I dont see it, prezzy. Clarice is too weak, and is playing mommy' to a monster in Miata. There is a mystery about Clarice that I cant put my finger on. And NO, it's not about that stupid theory that Clarice is actually Raki.:lol:
I have been thinking about this for some time and I couldn't figure out something. Why is Miata so attached to Clarice?

Is it because 1) Clarice is very human-like physically? (failed claymore, mostly human, human hair colour etc)
or 2) Miata is just plain crazy and will grab anyone to be her mummy?
or 3) Clarice (face) did resemble her mummy?
or 4) Clarice's and Miata's Yoma parts are linked in some way that Miata had some false impression over it?
or 5) <<insert your theory here>>

It's Monday in your part of town.
Yup it's 1am now. Riful week for me.

hollywoodlou

10-14-2007, 06:24 PM

Yup it can be the others too but I want it to be Galatea instead!
I want more manga page time for my beauty queen.

Well, no amount of wishful thinking is going to save Ms. Claymore. :lol: just kidding. What makes you think Gal gets more face time than Miria and Cynthia...get in line!:lol:

If Galatea appars in the next chapter and gets killed in the next chapter, I will awaken in this forum and tear myself apart. I wanted so long just to see a chapter of Galatea where she get herself killed by a combi of kiddo claymore and and a failed Claymore.

May the Claymore god have some pity on Galatea fans!!!

OK, now you're just plain paranoid. She's probably shacking up with some dude in a village somewhere. Lucky bastard.

Relax. She wont get killed and IF she does, it better not be as lame as Teresa getting a fake move' from Pris, OR a freakin paw to the forehead like Flora. That's not a good way to die.

I second your thoughts. That's the reason why I made so many banners for Flora during her week. Cause she's a great character that appeared was at the wrong place at the wrong time.

I've got a library of her.:o

I have been thinking about this for some time and I couldn't figure out something. Why is Miata so attached to Clarice?

Is it because 1) Clarice is very human-like physically? (failed claymore, mostly human, human hair colour etc)
or 2) Miata is just plain crazy and will grab anyone to be her mummy?
or 3) Clarice (face) did resemble her mummy?
or 4) Clarice's and Miata's Yoma parts are linked in some way that Miata had some false impression over it?
or 5) <<insert your theory here>>

Why complicate things? It's because she was the nearest pair of breasts she could get her hands on. (or suck on). She's just lonely, unstable and the "why" isn't exactly the most important question here. It's how long will this "usual relationship' last. Eventually, Clarice will have to go her separate ways. Eventually, # 47 will want to be a higher up like # 30, which is natural.

Yup it's 1am now. Riful week for me.

Just in time. I've got 14 hrs to go.

Hynavian

10-14-2007, 06:41 PM

Well, no amount of wishful thinking is going to save Ms. Claymore. :lol: just kidding. What makes you think Gal gets more face time than Miria and Cynthia...get in line!:lol:

It's probably my wishful thinking but I'm still hoping that Galatea gets more page-time. Partly because I don't believe that the weak combo can deafeat the beauty queen.

Relax. She wont get killed and IF she does, it better not be as lame as Teresa getting a fake move' from Pris, OR a freakin paw to the forehead like Flora. That's not a good way to die.
Ah Teresa's death was so unexpected and Flora's death was so shocking that I was speechless. Omg! Flora fell because of a paw. Teresa fell because of some cheap tricks.

I came up with an original but lame way but Galatea to die. Maybe Clarice accidentally trip over something and jab the sword into her. Now, that would be a pretty lame way to die...being killed by a loser >.<

I notice that.........

We have totally left Raki boy out from our discussions. Want to start some discussion on him? Maybe on his hairstyle or something? :lol:

hollywoodlou

10-14-2007, 06:49 PM

It's probably my wishful thinking but I'm still hoping that Galatea gets more page-time. Partly because I don't believe that the weak combo can deafeat the beauty queen.

I'll bet you the "other missing Claymore" Raphaela pawns Galatea in unimaginable ways. You love underestimating Miria dontcha?

I came up with an original but lame way but Galatea to die. Maybe Clarice accidentally trip over something and jab the sword into her. Now, that would be a pretty lame way to die...being killed by a loser >.<

Nah, she accidentally gets stabbed by Raki while looking for Clare.

I notice that.........

We have totally left Raki boy out from our discussions. Want to start some discussion on him? Maybe on his hairstyle or something?

Nah, let's keep talking about how much suffering and torture Galatea will endure to Miata, before she takes off her head. ;)

nope

10-14-2007, 09:28 PM

it would make sense if it was Raphaela Miata sensed, because no one else could have sensed Raphaela otherwise. I'm probably just connecting dots here though.

psychotic

10-14-2007, 11:10 PM

before I begin discussions, it's not monday yet here in my time zone so I havent uploaded my riful banner yet, but i will in 10 hours. genki.

wow, the 2 co presidents of the forum were busy gong at it, i knew i should've woke up early to join in.:)

it would make sense if it was Raphaela Miata sensed, because no one else could have sensed Raphaela otherwise. I'm probably just connecting dots here though.

it could be raphaela, but like hollywood said, we cannot say for sure if it's galatea either. the only argument i can think of it's raphaela is that she is very "powerful" (sister of ex # 1 luciela, and equal to her power as stated by rubel) and that she probably wasnt covering her tracks very well, also like when rubel tracked her to a cave. rubel's like a dog btw.:D

2nd, With Galatea being established as a "power player" in the series where her name alone sounds like a brand', I doubt Yagi-san will "whack" her quickly. I feel she has a mission to accomplish, yet I don't know what. Regarding Flora and Undine and Veronica etc, I understood why they were killed...to give space to the 7. With the introduction of Clarice, Miata and the inevitable rise of Alicia/Beth, there are too many characters in the series.
Of course, I was pissed that Flora was killed, but it was the hopeless situation they were in in the 1st place.

on the topic of flora and undine dying at pieta, yes they had to die but i am with you guys that i was very, very disappointed that flora died. she was very different and unique that it was a shame she had to die.

i also believed they had to die because they were backed in a corner with odds against them, and the author had a choice to kill off beloevd characters like that so the other major characters will live on as a result of that tragedy.

i never liked undine or jeane but that veronica was beautiful.

I'm more inclined with rookie there. Clarice is scared BUT at the same time very motherly to Miata. I know she's just following orders to be her "assistant" as well. Unfortunately, I still think that Miata may attempt a fatal strike on Clarice. It could be unintentional but when you have a mentally unstable monster on your hands, you are sure not to let your guard down.

yay. someone agreed with me. clarice has her mother figure role to do while babysitting miata. i also think she cant be trusted and that by clarice's statements, that she is indeed scared of miata as well. we shall see in the following chapters if she is really obedient.

If Galatea appars in the next chapter and gets killed in the next chapter, I will awaken in this forum and tear myself apart. I wanted so long just to see a chapter of Galatea where she get herself killed by a combi of kiddo claymore and and a failed Claymore.

May the Claymore god have some pity on Galatea fans!!!

:lol: that was funny co president! i didn't know you were so much a galatea fan. i think she'll be fine as well but compared to miata's power, it's unclear if she'll be any match vs miata's raw power. now if she dies at the village, that has got to be as bad as flora dying quickly.

OK, now you're just plain paranoid. She's probably shacking up with some dude in a village somewhere. Lucky bastard.

Why complicate things? It's because she was the nearest pair of breasts she could get her hands on. (or suck on)

Nah, she accidentally gets stabbed by Raki while looking for Clare.

:thumbup: :thumbup: thanks for the laughs hollywood.

psychotic

10-15-2007, 06:20 AM

changed my banner for riful week. i really dont want to change my clare avatar because i love clare. :o hope you guys understand. btw, i just got the 3rd sourcebook, and it's got some interesting stuff but i cant read japanese. what's the summary of this thing? i also pm'd greg if he can have this translated.

hollywoodlou

10-15-2007, 08:00 AM

that was funny co president! i didn't know you were so much a galatea fan. i think she'll be fine as well but compared to miata's power, it's unclear if she'll be any match vs miata's raw power. now if she dies at the village, that has got to be as bad as flora dying quickly.

Watch out because prezzy is also a Jean fan. Hynavian went nuts when Jean died in the anime, so im pretty sure prezzy will strangle every one of us if Galatea dies in chapter 74. :lol:

changed my banner for riful week. i really dont want to change my clare avatar because i love clare. hope you guys understand.

Im cool with that. I'm down with your banner as well.

yay. someone agreed with me. clarice has her mother figure role to do while babysitting miata. i also think she cant be trusted and that by clarice's statements, that she is indeed scared of miata as well. we shall see in the following chapters if she is really obedient.

Looks like Miata is following Clarice's orders as you say, but I've got a feeling she'll awaken, which is a predictable outcome. Then again, Claymore isn't your run of the mill manga series. It's complex story telling. Miata for now, will live as long as Clarice barks her orders and Miata follows them. If not, Houston we've got a problem.

it could be raphaela, but like hollywood said, we cannot say for sure if it's galatea either. the only argument i can think of it's raphaela is that she is very "powerful" (sister of ex # 1 luciela, and equal to her power as stated by rubel) and that she probably wasnt covering her tracks very well, also like when rubel tracked her to a cave. rubel's like a dog btw

You're smart because you agree with me.;) It could be Raphy...to say 100% that it;s Galatea is just predictable. I can also say with confidence that it can also be Irene.

hollywoodlou

10-15-2007, 08:15 AM

btw, i just got the 3rd sourcebook, and it's got some interesting stuff but i cant read japanese. what's the summary of this thing? i also pm'd greg if he can have this translated.

I was waiting for this...YES, I got it as well 2 days ago. It came out on the 9th of October. Ok here's the summary because most of it is in kanji anyways...

EACH CHARACTER IS RANKED ON THESE CATEGORIES:

Yoki:
Agility:
Strength:
Mental:
Sense:
Leadership:

Here's the surprising part: MOST of these women are TALL!

Now a lot of you will not agree with the rankings:

Alicia and Beth (180 CM tall)

Yoki: S
Agility: A+
Strength: A+
Mental: A+
Sense: A+
Leadership: E

The twin sisters are freakin STRONG! They are monsters!

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Rafaela (175 CM Tall)

Yoki: A
Agility: A
Strength: A
Mental: A
Sense: A
Leadership: C

Equal strength to her sister indeed, she beats out everyone but Teresa and the Twins as far as overall power. Damn impressive.

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Flora (180 CM Tall)

Yoki: B
Agility: A
Strength: C
Mental: B
Sense: C
Leadership: B

HMMM, very good but not good enough vs mr. Rooowr.

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Jean (175 CM Tall)

Yoki: B
Agility: C
Strength: B+
Mental: A+
Sense: C
Leadership: C

Hynavian 's favorite. Good stats, especially with honor as her guiding force.

Undine (175 CM Tall)

Yoki: C
Agility: C
Strength: A
Mental: C
Sense: C
Leadership: C+

Undine & Deneve were almost evenly matched. She was superior to Helen though.

Teresa's generation;

Teresa of the Faint Smile: No.1 (180 CM Tall)

Yoki: S
Agility: A
Strength: A
Mental: A
Sense: S
Leadership: B

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Priscilla: No.2 (165 CM Tall)

Yoki: A+
Agility: A+
Strength: B+
Mental: D
Sense: A+
Leadership: C

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"Flash-Sword" Irene: No.3 (180 CM Tall)

Yoki: A
Agility: A
Strength: B
Mental: A+
Sense: B
Leadership: A

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Sophia: No.4 (175 CM Tall)

Yoki: B
Agility: C
Strength: A+
Mental: B
Sense: B
Leadership: B

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Noel: No.5 (175 CM Tall)

Yoki: B
Agility: A+
Strength: C
Mental: B
Sense: B
Leadership: C

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Clare's Generation;

Alicia and Beth: No.1 and No.2 (180 CM tall)

Yoki: S
Agility: A+
Strength: A+
Mental: A+
Sense: A+
Leadership: E

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Galatea: No.3 (185 CM Tall)

Yoki: A
Agility: B
Strength: B+
Mental: A
Sensing: A+
Leadership: B

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"Rippling" Ophelia No.4 (175 CM Tall)

Yoki: A
Agility: A
Strength: A
Mental: C
Sensing: B+
Leadership: C

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Rafaela: No.5 (175 CM Tall)

Yoki: A
Agility: A
Strength: A
Mental: A
Sense: A
Leadership: C

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"Phantom" Miria No.6

Yoki: B+
Agility: A+
Strength: C
Mental: B
Sensing: C
Leadership: A+

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Flora: No.8 (180 CM Tall)

Yoki: B
Agility: A
Strength: C
Mental: B
Sense: C
Leadership: B

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Jean: No.9 (175 CM Tall)

Yoki: B
Agility: C
Strength: B+
Mental: A+
Sense: C
Leadership: C

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Undine: No.11 (175 CM Tall)

Yoki: C
Agility: C
Strength: A
Mental: C
Sense: C
Leadership: C+

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Deneve: No.15 (175 CM Tall)

Yoki: B+
Agility: B
Strength: C
Mental: C+
Sensing: C
Leadership: C

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Helen: No.22 (175 CM Tall)

Yoki: C+
Agility: C
Strength: B
Mental: C
Sensing: C
Leadership: D

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Clare: No.47 (170 CM Tall)

Yoki: E
Agility: E
Strength: E
Mental: D
Sensing: C+
Leadership: E

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Elena: No.? (Clare's dead friend from Volume 1)

Yoki: D
Agility: D
Strength: D
Mental: E
Sense: D
Leadership: C

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Awakened Beings: Awakened Beings are rated on a completely different scale, "Intelligence" is the most common translation of that last stat, so I'll go with it.

Priscilla: Former No.2

Yoki: EX
Agility: SSS+
Strength: SSS
Hardness: S+
Intelligence: SS

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Ophelia: No. 4 (Eliminated)

Yoki: SS
Agility: SSS
Strength: SS
Hardness: S
Intelligence: SS

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Duph: Former No.3

Yoki: SSS+
Agility: S
Strength: SSS+
Hardness: SSS
Intelligence: C

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Hilda: Former No.6 (Eliminated)

Yoki: SSS+
Agility: SS+
Strength: SS
Hardness: S
Intelligence: SS

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page 22 was also funny with that kawaii funny comics of everyone in the series. Everybody from Alicia and Beth to Rubel were hilarious.

hollywoodlou

10-15-2007, 08:32 AM

Teresa's generation;

Teresa of the Faint Smile: No.1 (180 CM Tall)

Yoki: S
Agility: A
Strength: A
Mental: A
Sense: S
Leadership: B

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Priscilla: No.2 (165 CM Tall)

Yoki: A+
Agility: A+
Strength: B+
Mental: D
Sense: A+
Leadership: C
*****

You guys actually thought that Pris COULD BEAT Teresa?

NOT A CHANCE. (see stats)

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Alicia and Beth (180 CM tall)

Yoki: S
Agility: A+
Strength: A+
Mental: A+
Sense: A+
Leadership: E

Teresa of the Faint Smile: No.1 (180 CM Tall)

Yoki: S
Agility: A
Strength: A
Mental: A
Sense: S
Leadership: B

>>>>Alicia is ahead of Teresa in some categories?? WTF!

nhy390

10-15-2007, 01:27 PM

I must admit the more I think about the whole Miata/Clarice situation, I don't think they will join the 7. Clarice doesn't have the sense to contradict the org and Miata isfollowing her and will do what is necessary. I hope Galatea chops both of them into little pieces, Ill be glad to see the end of them. I must admit I have a hard time seeing anybody other than complete outcasts joining the 7! I think we will have several battles between the 7 and envoys if the org.

psychotic

10-15-2007, 04:49 PM

hollywoodlou

10-15-2007, 09:00 PM

hey thanks hollywood! :) So those were pages 4-10. somebody has got to translate these stuff. i dont want to bother you for translating every page.

damn, you are right about alicia and beth, those sisters are scary. and rafaela is so powerful with all her A's. im becoming a rafaela fan.

I became an Alicia fan when I was discussing with another person on another "unmentionable" Claymore forum that without Beth, Alicia can still function like a normal Claymore. Regardless of the points from the databook, Alicia can still stand alone even if Beth dies. Blasphemy you say? I'll argue at a later point.

On Raphy, I looked at her yoki etc, and they're mostly A's. She's the oldest, most experienced and also equal to the power of an Abyssal (her sister), meaning...don't mess with Raphy. Not only that, her sensing abilities is more than Galatea's, as an 'eye".

comparing alicia to teresa is amazing. alicia is ahead of teresa in some points?? wow. it's hard to accept that. i also agree with teresa out pointing priscilla. now that u think about it, im just sad that teresa had to worry about priscilla when she obviously can beat her with her hands tied behind her back.

Not exactly tied behind her back...that's pushing it. IF Teresa awakened, she would definitely pawn our favorite noob Abyssal, Pris.

Now just observe (well, I hate making a reference to the anime) BUT as an 'example", in the anime; Clare with her 1/4 yoma mixture of Teresa almost handed Pris' her a**. Now we're talking about high quality blood here from Teresa. If the ORG didnt stick Teresa's blood in Clare and chose another, we wouldn't see Clare exceeding her prowess in the chapters.

But I am still surprised about Alicia exceeding Teresa in those points. Disturbing, actually. Good thing I'm an Alicia/Beth fan or I wouldn't accept it.

beakedbard

10-15-2007, 09:43 PM

Righto 16 days :D or if you anna be presise 15 days 15 hours and 18 mins.........17mins now.

psychotic

10-15-2007, 10:13 PM

Now just observe (well, I hate making a reference to the anime) BUT as an 'example", in the anime; Clare with her 1/4 yoma mixture of Teresa almost handed Pris' her a**. Now we're talking about high quality blood here from Teresa. If the ORG didnt stick Teresa's blood in Clare and chose another, we wouldn't see Clare exceeding her prowess in the chapters.

hey, you're right. :) i keep forgetting about that 1/4 yoma thing. i really love teresa, she's badass. ok from now on, rafaela is my new goddess.

btw, on pages 17 in the funny comics :D what was jeane saying to clare while she was lying on clare's bed half naked?:lol:

chezkimo

10-15-2007, 10:41 PM

HI! i'm back. Remember me, the captain.

Anyway, my password got lost for along time and i had to eventually contact the supervisros/staff directly coz i waited for like 2 weeks and my password didn't come.

In any case about the statistics. I think they are correct but they leave out some factos that influence. like (obviously) how Teresa's blood in Clare's body giving her more and more power and skill and as we've seen clare has definatly came along way from the beggining of the series (i think so anyway). Also, the fact that even though teresa may be lacking in some areas when she (not oftenly) releases even just 10% of her yoki, because yoki effects thier physical strength/speed ect. she goes out of this wordl!!

And yeah, surprising that Alicia may be more advanced than teresa in some areas but look at the sensing stats-- Teresa's greatest advantage. i think this puts them on level peggings.

Hollywoodlou, what you said about being an alicia/beth fan, i probably would be one myself except for the fact:

1) They have NO personalities (bland, bland, bland)
2) They are just tools for the Org. (Galatea rebelled...)
3) They might kill off riful, n000000!

nope

10-16-2007, 12:39 AM

i wonder what the 7's new stats would be in comparison with the old ones.

Hynavian

10-16-2007, 01:53 AM

Thanks for the translation Prezzo! I'm so envious of you all as I couldn't get my hand onto the data book. I couldn't get my hands on the data book in my local manga stores :mad:

With regards to the databook, I find it ridiculous that the mental of Clare (D) is lower than Ophelia (C). But upon reflecting, Ophelia has one of the lowest mental around if we're to exclude Clare and the twins. Another point that I don't understand is the ridiculous stats of Alicia and Beth. Though I agree that they're the strongest combi around when Alicia morphs into her awaken form, their Claymore stats is ridiculous. WHAT! 2 brainless warriors better than goddess Teresa? Mental A+?

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Hi captain chez! How are you doing? Good that you have gotten back your password.

PS: You're still so crazy over Riful as usual. It's Riful week this week (Im sure you're happy about this).

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Watch out because prezzy is also a Jean fan. Hynavian went nuts when Jean died in the anime, so im pretty sure prezzy will strangle every one of us if Galatea dies in chapter 74. :lol:
Well...you got that right :lol: Everyone in the Claymore thread will suffer, along with me, if Galatea dies anytime in the manga.

Prezzo has gone through it once before when Jeane died and I semi-awakened to give him lots of problems.

:lol: that was funny co president! i didn't know you were so much a galatea fan. i think she'll be fine as well but compared to miata's power, it's unclear if she'll be any match vs miata's raw power. now if she dies at the village, that has got to be as bad as flora dying quickly.
psychotic, you have to believe in Galatea.

Come repeat after me.....
"Galatea will win" (repeat 100 times)

:eban::eban::eban: <--- this will be my victory dance if Galatea makes it to the end of the manga.

nope

10-16-2007, 02:11 AM

i don't think Galatea will win.

Tensa Zangetsu

10-16-2007, 02:38 AM

i think galatea will not die in this battle (i didnt say that she would win though just that she wouldnt die) but i dont think she is gonna make it to the end of the manga...in fact i bet most characters will die before the end of the manga except clare...and maybe miria...

sooo, since raphaela is equivilant to her sister that means if she awakened she would be as strong as an awakend being...whoa scary...now think of the consequences if Teresa awakend...i bet that would look pretty awesome...

hollywoodlou

10-16-2007, 02:50 AM

btw, on pages 17 in the funny comics what was jeane saying to clare while she was lying on clare's bed half naked?

oh that?? Jean was explaining that she can also protect Clare in bed.:lol:

hey, you're right. i keep forgetting about that 1/4 yoma thing. i really love teresa, she's badass. ok from now on, rafaela is my new goddess.

Invert. Teresa is god, and Raphy is 2nd. I'm losing respect for my other sweetheart Miria after seeing those points. C+ for STRENGTH???WTF!

"Phantom" Miria No.6

Yoki: B+
Agility: A+
Strength: C
Mental: B
Sensing: C
Leadership: A+

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HI! i'm back. Remember me, the captain.

Anyway, my password got lost for along time and i had to eventually contact the supervisros/staff directly coz i waited for like 2 weeks and my password didn't come.

hmmmm, I dont seem to recall anyone by that name....:confused:

JUST KIDDING! Welcome back, buddy! So...the reason why you decided to post AFTER 2 MONTHS because of Riful Week, eh?
Really...I thought I saw you lurking around the boards for the past 30 days, but it could be my imagination...;)

Hollywoodlou, what you said about being an alicia/beth fan, i probably would be one myself except for the fact:

1) They have NO personalities (bland, bland, bland)
2) They are just tools for the Org. (Galatea rebelled...)
3) They might kill off riful, n000000!

1) Well...they're cute. Dude, I work for a casting agency in Hollywood. Most of the blondes here have the personality of a 3 day old sandwich, so I'm used to it already.
You can have the personality of a Helen, but if you have the fighting skills of a Yuma, personality is useless.

2) Clarice is a tool for the ORg, so's Miata. But there are Miata fans out there. I love the rebel chicks like Irene, Raphy and Ms. Claymore, but being a tool has it;s uses. Galatea figured out Alicia/Beth before Miria and the 7 did. You cant damage the system when you're on the outside.

3) Riful's days are numbered...sorry. bro.;)

Remember what Alicia said to the ORg member?: I will damage her by 50% but I will die. This was when she was less than 70% complete.

Well...you got that right Everyone in the Claymore thread will suffer, along with me, if Galatea dies anytime in the manga.

Prezzo has gone through it once before when Jeane died and I semi-awakened to give him lots of problems.

No I didn't. You were just cranky, so I left you all alone on the boards.:lol:

Come repeat after me.....
"Galatea will win" (repeat 100 times)

zzzzzzzz. Galatea WONT win, but she WONT die, either. Miata is using the 6th sense, which is different from "yoki sensing" which is Galatea's forte. I still call it 50/50 vs Miata.

Galatea: No.3 (185 CM Tall)

Yoki: A
Agility: B
Strength: B+
Mental: A
Sensing: A+
Leadership: B

Sensing is excellent. Agility and strength is B/B+.

I've got no clue what Miata's stats are because the latest databook doesn't tell us. I am sure Miata's Mental is C like Ophelia's. Sensing must be A or S. Leadership is C. Agility must be A+ due to her freakish strength, same as A+ for strength.

looks like Miata will edge Galatea by THIS much. A Really close battle.

With regards to the databook, I find it ridiculous that the mental of Clare (D) is lower than Ophelia (C). But upon reflecting, Ophelia has one of the lowest mental around if we're to exclude Clare and the twins. Another point that I don't understand is the ridiculous stats of Alicia and Beth. Though I agree that they're the strongest combi around when Alicia morphs into her awaken form, their Claymore stats is ridiculous. WHAT! 2 brainless warriors better than goddess Teresa? Mental A+?

Alicia and Beth: No.1 and No.2 (180 CM tall)

Yoki: S
Agility: A+
Strength: A+
Mental: A+
Sense: A+
Leadership: E

Mental A+ was meant for focus and discipline in destroying the enemy. Cant say that for the rest of the Claymores who waver when the battle commences. I cant even believe Im saying this, as well. What Im saying is that we have seen just a "preview" of what those 2 can do, and once Riful shows...Alicia already said she'll destroy Riful.

When Alicia said that, she was 50% "complete". So who's to say they're "brainless"?

Thanks for the translation Prezzo! I'm so envious of you all as I couldn't get my hand onto the data book. I couldn't get my hands on the data book in my local manga stores

Its 28 pages. what if I post it page by page?;)

Tensa Zangetsu

10-16-2007, 03:11 AM

hmmm....where did u even get the claymore stats from anyways??

psychotic

10-16-2007, 04:33 AM

hmmm....where did u even get the claymore stats from anyways??

i originally asked if anybody had it, but was surprised that another person than me had it on the board. thanks hollywood for the translation.

it's in japanese, and the 3rd databook is like the 1st databook with the points and stats. the 2nd one i dont have. the 1st databook was originally at the back of the fragment of imagination vol 1 edition. recently it was at the back of the new edition of vol 13 that recently came out within the past 5 days.

oh that?? Jean was explaining that she can also protect Clare in bed

oh!! is jean a lesbian? ;)

zzzzzzzz. Galatea WONT win, but she WONT die, either. Miata is using the 6th sense, which is different from "yoki sensing" which is Galatea's forte. I still call it 50/50 vs Miata.

Galatea: No.3 (185 CM Tall)

Yoki: A
Agility: B
Strength: B+
Mental: A
Sensing: A+
Leadership: B

Sensing is excellent. Agility and strength is B/B+.

I've got no clue what Miata's stats are because the latest databook doesn't tell us. I am sure Miata's Mental is C like Ophelia's. Sensing must be A or S. Leadership is C. Agility must be A+ due to her freakish strength, same as A+ for strength.

looks like Miata will edge Galatea by THIS much. A Really close battle.

good argument! i also noticed that miata's stats arent in the book.

but i will have to break ranks here, holly. galatea has an edge with her experience.

i think galatea will not die in this battle (i didnt say that she would win though just that she wouldnt die) but i dont think she is gonna make it to the end of the manga...in fact i bet most characters will die before the end of the manga except clare...and maybe miria...

i agree. galatea wont die in battle. its a close battle but i think galatea will be the one on top due to her clever abilities. the end of the manga i dont even want to think about now, because im still enjoying it.

hollywoodlou

10-16-2007, 07:10 AM

oh!! is jean a lesbian?

You've just opened the gates of hell/Hynavian. :lol:

good argument! i also noticed that miata's stats arent in the book.

but i will have to break ranks here, holly. galatea has an edge with her experience.

I didn't even takes sides. I just said that it's a battle royale' and that Miata is ahead by THIS much, based on the stats. It's a close fight and go both ways.

i agree. galatea wont die in battle. its a close battle but i think galatea will be the one on top due to her clever abilities. the end of the manga i dont even want to think about now, because im still enjoying it.

Did Hynavian brainwash you? Just kidding. Galatea will live...you just cannot beat that broad. She didn't become # 3 for nothing. Experience is key, that's for sure BUT Miata's raw power cannot be taken for granted.

tsunade666

10-16-2007, 11:41 AM

when will be the next chapter post in the site well it's liek taking forever no new chapter till now?

beakedbard

10-16-2007, 12:00 PM

when will be the next chapter post in the site well it's liek taking forever no new chapter till now?

I swear i'm gonna hunt down and kill the next person that says that its in lous sig and i say how many days are left everyday.

To answer your question 15 days and 3 hours (in a few secs).........

tsunade666

10-16-2007, 12:12 PM

well thats hot I'm not reading claymore that long I've just recently reading it out of blue and waiting for the next update

nhy390

10-16-2007, 01:55 PM

Hey guys...

when is the next chapter out?

:eban::eban::eban::eban::eban::eban::eban::eban:

sorry, so childish, but couldnt resist!!!

Your count-down is HIGHLY appreciated Beakedbard!

tsunade666

10-16-2007, 03:41 PM

nhy390

10-16-2007, 04:24 PM

how could I say this devlish in a way :D :D :devil: :devil:
like I said I don't know if this manga is a weekly jump or a monthly jump to begin with
I just read it out of now where and waiting for the next chapter but when I look up in the date its way past months already

it is normally monthly, but Claymore was dropped by the magazine that originally carried it and wasnt being picked up by another one until November, hence the wide gap. So to keep everyone happy they made some extra scenes which were ok. Some were better than others. But from now on it should be monthly again.

Hynavian

10-16-2007, 04:42 PM

Invert. Teresa is god, and Raphy is 2nd. I'm losing respect for my other sweetheart Miria after seeing those points. C+ for STRENGTH???WTF!

"Phantom" Miria No.6

Yoki: B+
Agility: A+
Strength: C
Mental: B
Sensing: C
Leadership: A+

You have to add this in to your hated list ---> "Sensing: C"
Miria is handicapped in the "Strength" and "Sensing" area but I think it's not much of a big deal with speed covering her back. And as she's in a great team now, she can reply on Tabitha or Clare(depending on whether she feels like it) as scouts. She can either 1) strike quickly, dispose the enemy or 2) utilise her speed and make a hasty escape.

She can just do mirages and dispose off a creature with an A attack rating as long as that creature is not faster than her. (Eg of faster chaarcter: Paw man Rigardos)

Im just wondering why Miria uses Tabitha more than Clare? Can it be due to the fact that Tabitha is able to more accurately sense Yoki from a distance as compared to Clare?

To support my point....
In the Slashers arc, though Clare sensed Galatea's presence, she wasn't sure of it herself while Tabitha could sense tha actions of both Rachel and Audrey from a distance.

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Alicia and Beth: No.1 and No.2 (180 CM tall)

Yoki: S
Agility: A+
Strength: A+
Mental: A+
Sense: A+
Leadership: E

Mental A+ was meant for focus and discipline in destroying the enemy. Cant say that for the rest of the Claymores who waver when the battle commences. I cant even believe Im saying this, as well. What Im saying is that we have seen just a "preview" of what those 2 can do, and once Riful shows...Alicia already said she'll destroy Riful.

When Alicia said that, she was 50% "complete". So who's to say they're "brainless"?
Response and reaction-wise I agree that the twins have the ability to know what they're doing. Maybe the "Mental category" does not include EQ and getting along with others.

The twins probably won't be able to differentiate sarcasm, jokes, have no character, personalities etc. It's sad that they're such powerful characters that live in so controlled lives.

Its 28 pages. what if I post it page by page?;)
Need help?
I'm always around to back you up but I'm not so useful nowdays as I'm held up with assignments :( May my holidays fall upon me soon!

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You've just opened the gates of hell/Hynavian. :lol:
You got the above right, see the texts below.

oh that?? Jean was explaining that she can also protect Clare in bed.:lol:
oh!! is jean a lesbian? ;)
NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/4203/nohh3.gif

beakedbard

10-16-2007, 04:47 PM

C'mon you have to admit Jean would make a smexy lesbian XD

Hynavian

10-16-2007, 04:47 PM

when will be the next chapter post in the site well it's liek taking forever no new chapter till now?

Hi, welcome to the Claymore thread.

Solutions
1) You can check with our countdown specialist in the forums
Beakedbard is the man!

2) Or you can click on Prezzo (hollywoodlou)'s signature link daily to check.

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how could I say this devlish in a way :D :D :devil: :devil:
like I said I don't know if this manga is a weekly jump or a monthly jump to begin with
I just read it out of now where and waiting for the next chapter but when I look up in the date its way past months already

The new issue will be in the first issue of JUMP SQUARE cause it just "moved" from another to this. And Claymore has always been a monthly affair thing so we don't get to see it weekly.

Did you miss out the extra scenes? There were 4 extra scenes (monthly released) after chapter 73.

beakedbard

10-16-2007, 04:51 PM

Oh on that note 14 days now ^^

Hynavian

10-16-2007, 04:52 PM

C'mon you have to admit Jean would make a smexy lesbian XD

No! If I admit it Prezzo will be real habit to add in other titles for Jeane.

Current Jeane's status in holly's mind: stalker

Possible future status: stalker+les

My stand: No!!!!

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Do you all think it's possible for Claymores to go out with humans?

The one with the highest possibility of getting a boyfriend is Clare if Raki is still around.

I'm thinking that Rafaela or Galatea might hook up with someone if they take Yoki pills.

:eban:

beakedbard

10-16-2007, 04:55 PM

Well waht if jeane was bi? that'd work :)

Oh and ignore my last post that was a mistake its 15 days.

hollywoodlou

10-16-2007, 05:07 PM

Oh and ignore my last post that was a mistake its 15 days.

BB, obviously your daily announcements AREN'T WORKING. Just as I predicted, There are "geniuses' still asking that "smart" question.;)

beakedbard

10-16-2007, 05:11 PM

>.>

<.<

Shhhhhh that was my first mistake.

Hynavian

10-16-2007, 05:15 PM

it's in japanese, and the 3rd databook is like the 1st databook with the points and stats. the 2nd one i dont have. the 1st databook was originally at the back of the fragment of imagination vol 1 edition. recently it was at the back of the new edition of vol 13 that recently came out within the past 5 days.
Ah where did you get the databook from? From your local bookstore?
Please someone pm me with the information as to where to get it :) Thanks.

i agree. galatea wont die in battle. its a close battle but i think galatea will be the one on top due to her clever abilities. the end of the manga i dont even want to think about now, because im still enjoying it.
I hope that she will make it to the end but it's just what I'm hoping though. Another 73 chapters (or how many more-my maths is bad) more would make a difference to the plot. She might end up to be another sacrificial character (like jeane), suffer sudden deaths (like Flora), or suffer an unjustified death (like Teresa).

hollywoodlou

10-16-2007, 05:26 PM

You have to add this in to your hated list ---> "Sensing: C"
Miria is handicapped in the "Strength" and "Sensing" area but I think it's not much of a big deal with speed covering her back. And as she's in a great team now, she can reply on Tabitha or Clare(depending on whether she feels like it) as scouts. She can either 1) strike quickly, dispose the enemy or 2) utilise her speed and make a hasty escape.

She can just do mirages and dispose off a creature with an A attack rating as long as that creature is not faster than her. (Eg of faster chaarcter: Paw man Rigardos)

Im just wondering why Miria uses Tabitha more than Clare? Can it be due to the fact that Tabitha is able to more accurately sense Yoki from a distance as compared to Clare?

To support my point....
In the Slashers arc, though Clare sensed Galatea's presence, she wasn't sure of it herself while Tabitha could sense tha actions of both Rachel and Audrey from a distance.

It's her leadership skills that glues everything together...from the 7 working as a machine to making up for her "inadequacies'. Sure, she's weak in 4 categories compared to the rest, BUT it's her leadership skills that compensates for everything.

if she wasn't an A+, I doubt the other 6 would listen to her. And good thing about that too, because I cant take Deneve bossing around the group.

Tabitha's great, Im becoming a fan of hers like Cynthia (yeah). She's the new eye of the group and that's her role for # 32. No need for Galatea to join the group now...just kidding.

Response and reaction-wise I agree that the twins have the ability to know what they're doing. Maybe the "Mental category" does not include EQ and getting along with others.

The twins probably won't be able to differentiate sarcasm, jokes, have no character, personalities etc. It's sad that they're such powerful characters that live in so controlled lives.

Not every character should be Helen-like. I doubt they can joke around but they've been TRAINED SINCE CHILDBIRTH to destroy the enemy on a whim. You cannot fault them for that. It's sad yes, but hopefully they can meet someone like Clare and talk some sense into them.

Need help?
I'm always around to back you up but I'm not so useful nowdays as I'm held up with assignments May my holidays fall upon me soon!

I already translated pages 6-12 for psychotic, so I was actually going to ask you to translate the 1st 6 pages, which is really informative. It's on rar BTW. You up to it?;)

NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Yessssss.....(deep sexy voice);)

Solutions
1) You can check with our countdown specialist in the forums
Beakedbard is the man!

2) Or you can click on Prezzo (hollywoodlou)'s signature link daily to check.

...and what fine job beakedbard is doing...:skull:.

Dude, make your countdown bigger, because obviously we're still getting the "genius" question.

beakedbard

10-16-2007, 05:34 PM

Fine i'll be more precise 14 days 21 hours 26 mins and about 10 secs

hollywoodlou

10-16-2007, 05:42 PM

Fine i'll be more precise 14 days 21 hours 26 mins and about 10 secs

not good enough...

Try this:

14 days 21 hours 26 mins and about 10 secs UNTIL CLAYMORE CHAPTER 74.

NOVEMBER 2, 2007.

That means for those with an IQ of a doorknob, Claymore chapter 74 will be released on NOVEMBER 2, 2007.

Hynavian

10-16-2007, 05:51 PM

Tabitha's great, Im becoming a fan of hers like Cynthia (yeah). She's the new eye of the group and that's her role for # 32. No need for Galatea to join the group now...just kidding.
Im also starting to appreciate Cynthia and Tabitha (must have been due to your influence). And I still support Yuma though her stats must have been considerably lower than the pack.

I hope Miria will be the long standing leader of the pack as for some unknown reason, I don't really like Deneve. I think the whole team would fall apart if Deneve is the leader. She'll work fine as the discipline mistress but not as the leader!

It's sad yes, but hopefully they can meet someone like Clare and talk some sense into them.
I don't think Clare will be the one striking a conversation with them. Maybe Helen should try to reform the twins instead. I prefer the twins to adapt Helen-like characters as compared to Clare's on-off weird attitude.

I already translated pages 6-12 for psychotic, so I was actually going to ask you to translate the 1st 6 pages, which is really informative. It's on rar BTW. You up to it?;)
I'm caught up with lots of assignments now but I'm mainly free end November/beginning December. I'll do it if you guys can wait that long as I think "really informative" means lots and lots of words to translate ya?

Anyone has the raw or know where I can get the book itself? :devil:

Hynavian in action :eban:

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Maybe the countdown can take on bigger fonts in addition to the suggestions given by prezzo.

beakedbard

10-16-2007, 05:57 PM

OH SO YOU WANT ME TO POST IT LIKE THIS SO THE PEOPLE THAT KEEP BUGGING US ABOUT THE DATE FINNLY GET IT?

hollywoodlou

10-16-2007, 06:00 PM

YUP. The small fonts weren't working anyway. :devil:

hollywoodlou

10-16-2007, 06:10 PM

Im also starting to appreciate Cynthia and Tabitha (must have been due to your influence). And I still support Yuma though her stats must have been considerably lower than the pack.

I hope Miria will be the long standing leader of the pack as for some unknown reason, I don't really like Deneve. I think the whole team would fall apart if Deneve is the leader. She'll work fine as the discipline mistress but not as the leader!

My influence is infinite.:devil: And yes, Deneve is too rigid to be the leader. That's why I really appreciate Helen as the 'counter Deneve' because of her personality. She's better suited as the sgt-in-arms BUT NEVER the leader. I;d rather have Yuma as my leader, and that's saying something.

I don't think Clare will be the one striking a conversation with them. Maybe Helen should try to reform the twins instead. I prefer the twins to adapt Helen-like characters as compared to Clare's on-off weird attitude.

That would be great! Alicia would be Deneve while Beth would be Helen! :thumbup: I hope to live to see that day happen., when the twins would learn those 2's behavior.

I'm caught up with lots of assignments now but I'm mainly free end November/beginning December. I'll do it if you guys can wait that long as I think "really informative" means lots and lots of words to translate ya?

Anyone has the raw or know where I can get the book itself?

What did I just say? I HAVE it. And it;s in .rar. Ask and ye shall receive from Hollywood. Think of it as training for future scanlating duties.

Hynavian

10-16-2007, 06:36 PM

That would be great! Alicia would be Deneve while Beth would be Helen! :thumbup: I hope to live to see that day happen., when the twins would learn those 2's behavior.
I think we will not see such a day come :(
It's easier to see one of them awaken (or both awaken) then to see a 360 degress personality change.

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What did I just say? I HAVE it. And it;s in .rar. Ask and ye shall receive from Hollywood. Think of it as training for future scanlating duties.
Prezzo you're my bestest best friend in the forum right?
You're the most generous, most kind-hearted, most understanding, most friendly, most caring, [continue below]
>>>insert good attributes here<<<

Can I please have the links to the .rar. that you have please?

Thanks :)

Erm with regards to putting words into the word bubbles, have you found a solution to it yet? That's one major obstacle that is in the way of my future translation duties. :eban:

Let's go a Prezzy-Prezzo combo! Sounds fun?

irvinethearcher

10-16-2007, 06:54 PM

Hi everyone, has someone some data about rigardo? I think he's a good marker how strong clare has become.

psychotic

10-16-2007, 07:49 PM

to co president hynavian...gome on my jean remark:o, i should've followed hollywood's warnings. dont worry...i think he gets uptight when you mention raki.;)

Hi everyone, has someone some data about rigardo? I think he's a good marker how strong clare has become.

Ah where did you get the databook from? From your local bookstore?
Please someone pm me with the information as to where to get it Thanks.

i think his stats are in the databook as well, but im using an internet cafe right now. ill post it for you when i get home. if not, hollwyood will eventually will before me.

i have it in html, but if hollwyood ahs it in .rar, that's better. i'll ask it from him as well later via pm.;)

I hope that she will make it to the end but it's just what I'm hoping though. Another 73 chapters (or how many more-my maths is bad) more would make a difference to the plot. She might end up to be another sacrificial character (like jeane), suffer sudden deaths (like Flora), or suffer an unjustified death (like Teresa).

galatea will maken it in the end, sempai. dont worry. if hollywood's info is correct that volume 25 will be the last...that'll be around chapter 150-160.

What did I just say? I HAVE it. And it;s in .rar. Ask and ye shall receive from Hollywood. Think of it as training for future scanlating duties.

sempai hynavian...pleaaaasse. i read that you speak and read japanese like holly.

chezkimo

10-16-2007, 08:23 PM

HEY! Hollywoodlou, you said Riful's days are numbered! That's just mean! Besides, you know it's not good to underestimate her.

In any case...hey if prezzy and prezzo become the a combo there'll be like the new Alicia/Beth of the forum. lol.

anyway, talking about the stats. I can take Miria having sensing ablities as a C as she hasn't really shown any exceptional skills to do with sensing, HOWEVER i will not take her strength being a C! We all know that her strength is that poor! C my back foot, just tell that to the number of yoma that have been chopped down by her. Where these stats created by the author himself? If they were than i'll humbly except it but if not than it's totally wrong!

And yeah, Ophelia's mentality should be D. Teresa's yoki should be SS. Not just S.

Besides that, i think galatea and miata will be level peggings also!

By the way, say if clare awakened on purpose and went against awakened alicia what do you think her chances would be against her?

nhy390

10-16-2007, 08:36 PM

By the way, say if clare awakened on purpose and went against awakened alicia what do you think her chances would be against her?

I reckon Clare would have her arse handed to her! She was struggling with Rigardo who is only a fraction of an abyssal one (judging by the fact he got a serious beating from both Isley and Priscilla). Alicia took on a whole horde of awakened beings and didn't even break a sweat! Plus I doubt Alicia would have the patience that Rigardo had and would surely finish the fight in one quick move. However, having said that, that was Clare from 7 years ago. We still dont really know how powerful the 7 renegades have become. So, maybe now, the fight would be on par. I dont know if that hand book said anything about the CURRENT level of the 7. Now things may be very different. We know they have the power to evade an abyssal one without too much trouble, however, fighting one is a very different matter. At the moment I would still put my money on Alicia since I haven't seen neo-Clare fight yet.

nope

10-17-2007, 12:45 AM

i wish clare would awaken, I'd like to see that.

hollywoodlou

10-17-2007, 07:51 AM

I think we will not see such a day come
It's easier to see one of them awaken (or both awaken) then to see a 360 degress personality change.

What a pessimistic view. Awakening will only happen IF Beth gets knocked off, and even though she looks helpless, she's not. You don't become # 2 because of your looks. She has a post like everybody from 1-47.
Besides, once they get a load of Helen, it's gonna be party time.

Prezzo you're my bestest best friend in the forum right?
You're the most generous, most kind-hearted, most understanding, most friendly, most caring, [continue below]
>>>insert good attributes here<<<

Can I please have the links to the .rar. that you have please?

NO!:lol: I said ASK...not grovel and beg. Didn't you call me a worthless SOB once? :devil: Oh waitaminute, that was my ex-girlfriend's dad. Ah, wait...

Erm with regards to putting words into the word bubbles, have you found a solution to it yet? That's one major obstacle that is in the way of my future translation duties.

The most used software for the scanlating effects is Photoshop 7 or CS2, but CS3 is available. Some fansubs use Gimp which I used for my "moving" avatars and siganture/banners. Gimp is free btw.

Let's go a Prezzy-Prezzo combo! Sounds fun?

sempai hynavian...pleaaaasse. i read that you speak and read japanese like holly.

Did you read that? C'mon "sempai" prezzy. I already did pages 6-12. Just do 2-5 and 21-24..The CLARE-SAN COMICS ;) which is really funny, and I'll do it. hehe.

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/2582/galatealq3.jpg

hollywoodlou

10-17-2007, 08:32 AM

HEY! Hollywoodlou, you said Riful's days are numbered! That's just mean! Besides, you know it's not good to underestimate her.

In any case...hey if prezzy and prezzo become the a combo there'll be like the new Alicia/Beth of the forum. lol.

Aw C'mon Captain, I didn't know you were so defensive about Riful. ;)I'm just saying that Alicia isn't scared of her. Sure, her loli-ness is attractive in some way :), but I'm more interested in her witty demeanor and calculating mind.

Now me and prezzy were talking in thread # 2 or 3 how to defeat Riful, and I have to say, she's difficult to beat. How bout' cutting her horizontally? Would Alicia's cut and smash technique win vs Riful's slash and crush technique? Only adavantage for Riful is her size and wits while Alicia's is her ferocious focus on destroying the enemy, regardless of their size. See what she did to the 11 AB's.

In any case...hey if prezzy and prezzo become the a combo there'll be like the new Alicia/Beth of the forum. lol.

LOL :lol:that's hilarious. Because you;re the captain of 1MMCM, you should be the ORG or Rubel. Get us in line!

anyway, talking about the stats. I can take Miria having sensing ablities as a C as she hasn't really shown any exceptional skills to do with sensing, HOWEVER i will not take her strength being a C! We all know that her strength is that poor! C my back foot, just tell that to the number of yoma that have been chopped down by her. Where these stats created by the author himself? If they were than i'll humbly except it but if not than it's totally wrong!

And yeah, Ophelia's mentality should be D. Teresa's yoki should be SS. Not just S.

Besides that, i think galatea and miata will be level peggings also!

Phantom" Miria No.6

Yoki: B+
Agility: A+
Strength: C
Mental: B
Sensing: C
Leadership: A+

Her agility is A+, which you can say is her "strength". I couldn't believe her stats either. BUT it looks "passable" to me though. She's not that strong but you have to realize it's her LEADERSHIP skills which compensates for her negatives. That's the Miria we worship...and her short micro mini after Pieta.

And yeah, Ophelia's mentality should be D. Teresa's yoki should be SS. Not just S.

Besides that, i think galatea and miata will be level peggings also!

I have no problem with your advice on Ophelia and Teresa, you're preaching to the choir here, buddy.

NOW you'll surely be flamed by EQUALIZING both Miria and Galatea. Galatea has the edge by a VERY NARROW margin to Miria.

Galatea: No.3 (185 CM Tall)

Yoki: A
Agility: B
Strength: B+
Mental: A
Sensing: A+
Leadership: B

Gal's Agility AND Leadership stats suck BUT overall, she's superior.

By the way, say if clare awakened on purpose and went against awakened alicia what do you think her chances would be against her?

We've seen Alicia smash through 11 AB's in fewer time than I could order a Machiato at Starbucks. We only saw a "sample" of Clare awakening. They both have the same "blade" techniques as they slice (and dice) their enemies. BUT Alicia is an Abyssal technically by ORG standards.
I will have to go with Alicia. Clare is too darn "emotional" when she fights, which is a negative. Sure she beat Rigald in the end, but the way she did it AND the time needed is not persuasive for me.

Alicia fights with only 1 thing on her mind, destroy the enemy...that's it. Trained since childbirth to annihilate the enemy..so says Rubel. That's training and discipline by Spartan standards. Her (or their) stats alone are freakin scary.

Alicia and Beth: No.1 and No.2 (180 CM tall)

Yoki: S
Agility: A+
Strength: A+
Mental: A+
Sense: A+
Leadership: E

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/2582/galatealq3.jpg

beakedbard

10-17-2007, 09:52 AM

Hynavian

10-17-2007, 03:23 PM

to co president hynavian...gome on my jean remark:o, i should've followed hollywood's warnings. dont worry...i think he gets uptight when you mention raki.;)
iie.
I only use the secret weapon (Raki) when I want to provoke prezzo to react.

i have it in html, but if hollwyood ahs it in .rar, that's better. i'll ask it from him as well later via pm.;)
Same here, I'm going to pm prezzo to ask for it. Can you send me the ones that you have as well through pm? Thanks.

sempai hynavian...pleaaaasse. i read that you speak and read japanese like holly.
Credit should be given to Prezzo too as he did impress me with his Japanese skills. Tough to meet a buddy who knows Japanese and I'm glad that I have met him.

The most used software for the scanlating effects is Photoshop 7 or CS2, but CS3 is available. Some fansubs use Gimp which I used for my "moving" avatars and siganture/banners. Gimp is free btw.
Yup I have gotten Gimp but I'm having troubles using it. I need help :( I'm hopeless with programmes.

Did you read that? C'mon "sempai" prezzy. I already did pages 6-12. Just do 2-5 and 21-24..The CLARE-SAN COMICS ;) which is really funny, and I'll do it. hehe.
I'll try but no promise though. Lots of homework and stuff. And I have a hunch that those pages that you want me to translate are fill with lots of words right?! :devil:[/QUOTE]

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In any case...hey if prezzy and prezzo become the a combo there'll be like the new Alicia/Beth of the forum. lol.
No!!! We're be a Teresa-Galatea combi instead. I don't like the Alicia-Beth pairing. (I don't like robots)

By the way, say if clare awakened on purpose and went against awakened alicia what do you think her chances would be against her?
I think Alicia will tear Clare apart before Clare even complete her awakening. Even as an awakened being, I'm sure Clare will be able to evaluate the situation or something and she might hold back but Alicia will just go straight in and take the kill. Alicia is not as patient as Rigardo and won't waste her time waiting around for Clare to do something.

hollywoodlou

10-17-2007, 04:43 PM

Damnit i wanna read those comics now they look funneh lou with all your overwhelming claymore knowledge could you tell me where to get them (the one from your sig and yes i feel like groveling as well XD)

That was from the FIRST databook, they really have funny comics. But it's in Japanese obviously. I asked my cousin who scanlates once in a while and I translated.

On this 3rd databook, there are strips about:

1) Alicia and Beth and the ORG with RUbel
2) Miria at Pieta with Flora
3) Jean (who keeps bothering Clare) about returning the "favor"...even ending up in Clare's bed.:lol:

4) The best one has Clare wondering if her short skirt (the black micro mini skirt) is really short, then Helen surprises her from behind lifting her skirt, then Clare goes nuts.:lol:...then Miria gets mad at both of them for fooling around, raising her yoki.

I'll ask Hynavian to do the translating because Hy is a natural born speaker, and I'm not an expert. My kanji is a D, and my katakana is a D as well . It's best that Hy do the translating.

Credit should be given to Prezzo too as he did impress me with his Japanese skills. Tough to meet a buddy who knows Japanese and I'm glad that I have met him.

Stop.. Stop...:o I can't take your being nice to me. (sniff)

I'll try but no promise though. Lots of homework and stuff. And I have a hunch that those pages that you want me to translate are fill with lots of words right?!

It's only 9 pages (the ones I specified) ! Most of them I simplified and also most of them are in the form of workcharts. We upload the pages, then you just type the accompanying translations for everybody like any normal post. The bubble' stuff can wait for later, maybe Christmas.

up I have gotten Gimp but I'm having troubles using it. I need help I'm hopeless with programmes.

I use Gimp (mostly) for my avatar and signature. The tutorials are not difficult to understand, it just comes down to trial and error. Photoshop is harder to understand and implement, believe it or not.
How were you able to create your av and sig?

No!!! We're be a Teresa-Galatea combi instead. I don't like the Alicia-Beth pairing. (I don't like robots)

I like robots.:lol: C'mon...wearing black is wicked! LOL

I think Alicia will tear Clare apart before Clare even complete her awakening. Even as an awakened being, I'm sure Clare will be able to evaluate the situation or something and she might hold back but Alicia will just go straight in and take the kill. Alicia is not as patient as Rigardo and won't waste her time waiting around for Clare to do something.

Very good, prezzy. We're in agreement then that Alicia will tear Clare apart like a 5 year old does a Christmas present. Once someone says "Alicia, attack", it's over for Clare. Alicia doesn't have that emotional baggage that Clare carries with her, and it's just business for Alicia.

chezkimo

10-17-2007, 05:34 PM

LOL. Alicia/Beth arn't robots they're just VERY UNSOCIABLE in more ways than one!!

"Alcia, how has your day been"
*Alicia blinks exactly 5 times with exactly 3 seconds between each blink and says "good bye"

And that's the best ever conversation you're gonna get out of her.

By the way, pleeeeeeeeease show us those cmoic strips of claymore. They sound like bare jokes!

And if you guys DO become Alicia and Beth I'm not gonna be Rubel ok! coz man that guy's ennoying and i definatly don't want people to dislike me. I'd be...Raphaela, eye of the orgi and on the side lines. Also, i DO have an evil twin brother who is like my opposite. w00t, i'm Raphaela.

And year, before the seven years gap i'd totally agree with you and say Clare'd be ripped to pieces, however, it hasn't been seven years of training and she's become stronger, that and when she fought with rigald she just awakened all 4 limbs, and she took her time doing it. But when she did awaken all four she sliced him to pices like that!

So what if with her current strength and awakened straight away and then if alicia awakened as well. Then tell me she'd be sliced in 5 secs. I mean yeah, the odds would still be against her but you never know. ALSO i wander if that's gonna happen near to the end-- Alicia and Clare go at it in awakened forms. Now that i think about it, there's a chance of it happerning. what say ye?

Hynavian

10-17-2007, 07:35 PM

I use Gimp (mostly) for my avatar and signature. The tutorials are not difficult to understand, it just comes down to trial and error. Photoshop is harder to understand and implement, believe it or not.
How were you able to create your av and sig?
I surrendered to GIMP after trying for an hr. I went back to my old programme - Micromedia Works :thumbup:

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"Alcia, how has your day been"
*Alicia blinks exactly 5 times with exactly 3 seconds between each blink and says "good bye"

And that's the best ever conversation you're gonna get out of her.
Now that's very robot-like to me. She doesn't even respond properly to the question posted.

Captain, I think that you have looked down on Alicia too much. I remember that she's able to respond to questions when the organisation people asked her something.

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I found page 24 of the first book and I went ahead to translate and edit it. I have no idea how to patch up or what fonts to use and i used the "eraser" in the computer to erase word by word; used white paint to dye the background; but there are some spots that I have no clue what to do about it.

I dedicate the below to you all.
Took me 4 hours to do 1 page as I struggled with the programme and had to edit the background. Hope that you all will like it.

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/e82e9825edab46869d31867e5df370706g.jpg

Click Here (http://www.mediafire.com/?amctmonz0zw) to download (Bigger Version etc)

beakedbard

10-17-2007, 08:35 PM

OMG LOL AMAZING i love you soooo much for translating those *glomps*

On another note 14 days until the next chapter is released

psychotic

10-17-2007, 10:15 PM

hey cool! thanks hynavian. those are funny.:D

I surrendered to GIMP after trying for an hr. I went back to my old programme - Micromedia Works

I used photoshop 8 for my banner. i find it funny that all of you guys use the same rigul gif (hollywood, hynavian and chezkimo) on yours.

yay, mine is original!:thumbup:

Originally Posted by chezkimo View Post
In any case...hey if prezzy and prezzo become the a combo there'll be like the new Alicia/Beth of the forum. lol.
No!!! We're be a Teresa-Galatea combi instead. I don't like the Alicia-Beth pairing. (I don't like robots)

the 2 co-presidents are like a combo i agree, chezkimo. they're the most well informed in the forum and i've learned a lot reading through the previous posts from them. they're 1 and 2.

i dont have any clue who is alicia between hollywood and hy.:lol:

chezkimo

10-17-2007, 10:44 PM

Yep, but that's because in the anime that was the only episode she was in and besides she looks cool there with her glowing red eyes and her nice long metalic ribbony hair, awww, riful~

Ahem, where was i, yh, i really like ur banner actually, and init, those 2 are definatly the new A/B but neither of them are beth, because beth is the less dominant one and as we've seen both of them are dominant as each other.

HOWEVER, matybe we should have a vote on whose Alicia and whose Beth.

and what one would you be Psychotic?

oh yh, thankas for the pics, they're great!

But prezzy, i don't look down on Alicia and Beth. I do actually like them as cool, fighting machine, but i just don't really like thier characteristics...than and thier fringe. BURN the fringe!! Blondes and fringes don't go!!

psychotic

10-17-2007, 10:59 PM

Ahem, where was i, yh, i really like ur banner actually, and init, those 2 are definatly the new A/B but neither of them are beth, because beth is the less dominant one and as we've seen both of them are dominant as each other.

HOWEVER, matybe we should have a vote on whose Alicia and whose Beth.

and what one would you be Psychotic?

you're talking about my banner? awesome! i was just pointing out that the 3 of you 1MMCM officers have the same jpg of riful.

did u guys talk about it?:lol: im neither alicia nor beth btw, maybe prezzo and prezzy.

chezkimo

10-18-2007, 12:33 AM

Lol. Yeah, i like your banner alot!

And no, it was pure coincidence that we have the same kind of pics. but i guess great minds think alike :D

And i meant if they're A/B what character are you?

I'm Raphaela! :)

psychotic

10-18-2007, 12:50 AM

your're rafaela? darn, i wanted rafaela!

im teresa. former # 1 and a legend.

hollywoodlou

10-18-2007, 03:46 AM

LOL. Alicia/Beth arn't robots they're just VERY UNSOCIABLE in more ways than one!!

"Alcia, how has your day been"
*Alicia blinks exactly 5 times with exactly 3 seconds between each blink and says "good bye"

And that's the best ever conversation you're gonna get out of her.

And year, before the seven years gap i'd totally agree with you and say Clare'd be ripped to pieces, however, it hasn't been seven years of training and she's become stronger, that and when she fought with rigald she just awakened all 4 limbs, and she took her time doing it. But when she did awaken all four she sliced him to pices like that!

So what if with her current strength and awakened straight away and then if alicia awakened as well. Then tell me she'd be sliced in 5 secs. I mean yeah, the odds would still be against her but you never know. ALSO i wander if that's gonna happen near to the end-- Alicia and Clare go at it in awakened forms. Now that i think about it, there's a chance of it happerning. what say ye?

LOL You're still ripping into Alicia and Beth just because they;re going to throttle your precious loli, Riful. That blinking stuff was hilarious, cap. So you actually think Riful is smart enough to figure out Beth smoking a cigarette while she gets her a** handed to her by her Abyssal sister?

Going also to your "7 year argument" about Clare's training in the snow, I'll bet you also that Alicia wasn't taking a 7 year vacation as well. Those 2 must have been busy kicking AB's around like a football on Sunday afternoons. As I;ve said, IF both Clare and A/B awakened and went at it, just by looking at A/B's stats and compared to Clare's...who's got the most upside to START WITH?

you're talking about my banner? awesome! i was just pointing out that the 3 of you 1MMCM officers have the same jpg of riful.

Sonofagun! psychotic's right.:lol:

And i meant if they're A/B what character are you?

I'm Raphaela!

Yo Chez you cheater, you're supposed to be Riful!

nope

10-18-2007, 03:53 AM

riful can't lose, ever, can she? no! i won't believe it! Clare and Riful team up!

Hynavian

10-18-2007, 04:36 AM

I used photoshop 8 for my banner. i find it funny that all of you guys use the same rigul gif (hollywood, hynavian and chezkimo) on yours.
I took the screenshots from the anime and it seems that that was the only time she was in her cool awakened being form. Can't help it, too little screen time for Riful. And hence, everyone got the similar screenshot. :)

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the 2 co-presidents are like a combo i agree, chezkimo. they're the most well informed in the forum and i've learned a lot reading through the previous posts from them. they're 1 and 2.

i dont have any clue who is alicia between hollywood and hy.:lol:
Prezzo will the above situation lead to the below situation?

"Sophia: Math never was your strong suit. That's why you'll always be number 4.

Noel: Huh? What are you talking about? You're number 4 while I'm number 3."

So it will become like this here:

Prezzy: I'm number 1, you're number 2

Prezzo: No! I'm number 1 and you're number 2

(And we can repeat this till the end of this year) :thumbup:

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you're talking about my banner? awesome! i was just pointing out that the 3 of you 1MMCM officers have the same jpg of riful.

did u guys talk about it?:lol: im neither alicia nor beth btw, maybe prezzo and prezzy.

I think captain is mentioning about me. He even spelt my name wrongly :o ("hy" became "yh")

psychotic

10-18-2007, 04:54 AM

hollywoodlou

10-18-2007, 07:06 AM

psychotic

10-18-2007, 07:48 AM

we guys had villain this week, so if we're going back to hero or claymore next week, is ophelia ok?

i also went back to the past threads, and you guys already had flora, clare, helen, galatea. i'm not sure about teresa, though.

hollywoodlou

10-18-2007, 08:05 AM

we guys had villain this week, so if we're going back to hero or claymore next week, is ophelia ok?

Ophelia it is then. Yea or nay/change, anyone?

chezkimo

10-18-2007, 12:34 PM

Hynavian

10-18-2007, 01:25 PM

ummm, guys, sorry to talk about next week but WHICH CHARACTER ARE WE DOING NEXT FOR BANNERS AND AVATARS?

im disappointed that i didn;t join you guys in the previous threads where you had clare (i think), galatea, helen...that;s it , right?

ANYONE in particular?

Clare, Galatea, Flora, Helen, Riful, [Coming week]

Ophelia it is then. Yea or nay/change, anyone?

I'm cool with Ophelia. captain mentioned in the above post that he's cool with Ophelia too.
Hence, we have 4 votes for Ophelia now?
nhy and beak, what do you all say? :)

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oh and about the clare VS A/B, it is true A/B would be killing awakened ones like shooting fish in a barel but when you think about it they are already so powerful even if it is seven years, they can only become so much more powerful than they already were, where as clare who was kinda weak before probably covered alot of ground in those seven years.
Hmm I thought about this and felt that you have raised some interesting issues captain! We all know that when they awaken, the awakened beings (max-yoki) are fixed. However, Alicia and Beth (A&B) proved to be an interesting case as A can revert back to her Claymore form. Hence, does not mean that A can also improve, along with the many others, during the 7 years time span? Or does anyone think that Alicia has already reached her max-Yoki?

Moving on though, yes we all know that A/B would own clare, and could maybe kill Riful and Isley if they went no hold bars, however, what do you think about A/B going up against Prissy?
Riful admitted that Priscilla could wipe her and Dulf out solo. Hence, I think if Alicia-Beth went to Priscilla, they would be wiped out too. I think it will already be a close and tough match if its Alicia vs Riful. In terms of power, A&B might match Riful prowess as A&B would have gone to destroy Riful ages ago if they were way more powerful. The organisation would not want to risk their robots if its a close battle right? :)

And if Priscilla is way above Riful, A&B would stand no chance if it's against Priscilla.

Hynavian

10-18-2007, 04:01 PM

Databook 1, Page 23

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If anyone noticed, I'm translating from back to front. :lol:

hollywoodlou

10-18-2007, 08:12 PM

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And i meant if they're A/B what character are you?
I'm Raphaela!

Yo Chez you cheater, you're supposed to be Riful!

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Oh yeah, but i just meant in terms of the claymores in the org. so, i guess psy is rafaela now. and i'm riful. no wait! prezzy and prezzo are gonna chase after me and try to kill me :( not fun!

LOL. OKOK i'll stop the A/B bashing now. I do actually think they're cool and atleast we won't get another prissy situation again with some powerful claymore turning inot a super-abyssal one.

And thought you guys already ophelia, although i don't mind. i like her.

LOL. Absolutely. I'll be chasing you down like a dog.! You're Riful. I don't mind the A/B bashing, as long as there';s some logic to your argument. So we're on for Ophelia next week. Alrighty then...

oh and about the clare VS A/B, it is true A/B would be killing awakened ones like shooting fish in a barel but when you think about it they are already so powerful even if it is seven years, they can only become so much more powerful than they already were, where as clare who was kinda weak before probably covered alot of ground in those seven years.

Moving on though, yes we all know that A/B would own clare, and could maybe kill Riful and Isley if they went no hold bars, however, what do you think about A/B going up against Prissy?

We really don't know how powerful A/B is and what they can do. So, it is abit of a mystery but what d'you think

As "ive said, even though Clare gained a lot within 7 years, doesn't mean A/B were on vacation at the Cariibean working on their tans. Clare gains, so does the 2. BUt ther twins were already THAT powerful to begin with, so Clare's toast.

A/B vs Prissy? If anyone remembered ES3, you just cant beat an Abyssal like that who regenerates faster than she can strike. Isley's an idiot for giving up, because he already had her...she was an emotional wreck...Isley was thinking straight and focused as hell, and needed one more salvo to finish her off. Isley just fell for a hot naked woman in front of him.

This time, Prissy should win, BUt not hands down. If it's the Pris taht we saw at the end of the anime who was collective and cool but amnesia driven, there's no stopping her. If it was the Prissy, who was crying about her parents, A/B have a chance to finsih her off, but barely.

At this point, I'll go with Pris by a LITTLE LITTLE bit, but I can think straight right now due to work, but I could change my mind later.

I'll translate the 3rd databook within the next 10 days and post it by next week. There's a LOT of info about AB's and Riful in this book...

psychotic

10-18-2007, 08:52 PM

hey thanks hynavian prezzy...that was funny. i knew raki was a pervert.:lol:

oh, didn't clare also smooch raki, an underage kid? isn't she like a molester or something? (asking...):eek:

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hollywood, your 7 year argument was very good. i was for clare because i already told you guys, she's my fantasy girl, but i ahd to accept that she is an emotional person, and that the a/b are just going to run circles around her. i still think clare could win, if she went at a/b with a suicidal attitude like what she did with rigald. of course, you dont want to piss off clare, as a result of rigald, of course.

ps prezzy, we cant wait for prezzo for next week, could you guys collaborate together?..2 minds are better than one...like alicia/beth. (smiling)

beakedbard

10-18-2007, 10:42 PM

YAY *glomps hyn again*

13 DAYS TIL THE NEXT CHAPTER COMES OUT I REPEAT 13 DAYS ^^

psychotic

10-19-2007, 12:21 AM

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Oh yeah, but i just meant in terms of the claymores in the org. so, i guess psy is rafaela now. and i'm riful. no wait! prezzy and prezzo are gonna chase after me and try to kill me :( not fun!

hey thanks, i get rafaela back from ya.

Hmm I thought about this and felt that you have raised some interesting issues captain! We all know that when they awaken, the awakened beings (max-yoki) are fixed. However, Alicia and Beth (A&B) proved to be an interesting case as A can revert back to her Claymore form. Hence, does not mean that A can also improve, along with the many others, during the 7 years time span? Or does anyone think that Alicia has already reached her max-Yoki?

i dont think that there is a max/limit to A/B. there hasn't been any signs of slowing down for priscilla or isley either. actually, we dont know the limits of their powers.

they aren't named abyssals or 'dwellers of the deep" for nothing. if we go with the anime 9dont flame me) when priscilla became a super abyssal' (saiyan) when her body transformed for the 2nd time, i think the author is telling us that there is another level of yoki they can go to.

but sticking to the manga, it looks unlimitless for the abyssals. they are truly on another level.

Riful admitted that Priscilla could wipe her and Dulf out solo. Hence, I think if Alicia-Beth went to Priscilla, they would be wiped out too. I think it will already be a close and tough match if its Alicia vs Riful. In terms of power, A&B might match Riful prowess as A&B would have gone to destroy Riful ages ago if they were way more powerful. The organisation would not want to risk their robots if its a close battle right?

And if Priscilla is way above Riful, A&B would stand no chance if it's against Priscilla.

a/b can take out riful, no doubt about that. priscilla is another matter. a/b stats are above' priscilla's (if we are going stat wise) and a/b are above teresa's. ergo, a/b can withstand priscilla...even if priscilla became abyssal/awakened.

Hynavian

10-19-2007, 03:37 AM

I'll translate the 3rd databook within the next 10 days and post it by next week. There's a LOT of info about AB's and Riful in this book...
ps prezzy, we cant wait for prezzo for next week, could you guys collaborate together?..2 minds are better than one...like alicia/beth. (smiling)
I won't be available next week as I will be working very hard to complete all my work :(
We'll be depending on Prezzo for the upcoming week to update or tanslate any Claymore stuff.

よろしくお願いします

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Thanks for the countdown Beakedbard
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a/b can take out riful, no doubt about that. priscilla is another matter. a/b stats are above' priscilla's (if we are going stat wise) and a/b are above teresa's. ergo, a/b can withstand priscilla...even if priscilla became abyssal/awakened.
I don't think that A/B can take out Riful that easily. I still think that they are somehow on equal footing. It doesn't make sense to not kill Riful when they're powerful enough to finish her off.

Apologies for my short reply in this post. About to head out soon ;)

hollywoodlou

10-19-2007, 07:03 AM

i dont think that there is a max/limit to A/B. there hasn't been any signs of slowing down for priscilla or isley either. actually, we dont know the limits of their powers.

they aren't named abyssals or 'dwellers of the deep" for nothing. if we go with the anime 9dont flame me) when priscilla became a super abyssal' (saiyan) when her body transformed for the 2nd time, i think the author is telling us that there is another level of yoki they can go to.

but sticking to the manga, it looks unlimitless for the abyssals. they are truly on another level.

a/b can take out riful, no doubt about that. priscilla is another matter. a/b stats are above' priscilla's (if we are going stat wise) and a/b are above teresa's. ergo, a/b can withstand priscilla...even if priscilla became abyssal/awakened.

:o Nuff said. My influence is growing on you, young Jedi.

You are correct on a couple of points: the Abyssals are indeed, on another "level" which is far above # 1-5 of the Claymore rank and file, and that we wont see their limits anytime soon.

A/B will definitely have a hard time with Riful (to be fair to Chez) but a hell of a harder time with Pris. I still see A/B finishing off Riful BUt will be severely punished by Pris, and their stats are revealing weaknesses on Pris's front.

nope

10-19-2007, 07:48 AM

has anyone even seen Riful fight seriously yet? i think she could defeat A/B, it might be a tough fight, but i still think Riful would come out on top. A/B did take on that huge group off AB but same with riful, without even fully transforming. Don't discount duph either Duph/Riful tag team might be pretty powerful if they are both serious.

psychotic

10-19-2007, 08:27 AM

Nuff said. My influence is growing on you, young Jedi.

I feel the force is strong within me, Obi Wan.;)

has anyone even seen Riful fight seriously yet? i think she could defeat A/B, it might be a tough fight, but i still think Riful would come out on top. A/B did take on that huge group off AB but same with riful, without even fully transforming. Don't discount duph either Duph/Riful tag team might be pretty powerful if they are both serious.

you could have a good point there, but we were talking one vs one, A vs. R. if we factor in beth vs riful, i think chaos will erupt. duffo wont interfere unless riful is in danger, but riful can handle herself. i also doubt beth is useless either. you dont become #2 because your sister is #1.

nope

10-19-2007, 09:00 AM

i was thinking along the lines of while #2 is distracted with soul link duph moves in to attack her, this will split #1s concentration giving Riful the advantage.

beakedbard

10-19-2007, 09:21 AM

These are all good theories and all but where has it been mentioned riful will fight A/B personally i don't even think they'll cross paths and someone else like isley will kill riful ^^

Hynavian

10-19-2007, 12:22 PM

Can i have a check please?

How many pages do you all have for databook 1 and databook 2?

Thanks

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you could have a good point there, but we were talking one vs one, A vs. R. if we factor in beth vs riful, i think chaos will erupt. duffo wont interfere unless riful is in danger, but riful can handle herself. i also doubt beth is useless either. you dont become #2 because your sister is #1.

To add on, we don't even know whether Mr Dulf is still around. We have seen Riful playing around with the new Claymores (Audrey and Rachel) but we have not seen Mr Dulf yet. I wonder what happened to that cutie :lol: [Maybe ran off with some other cuter awaken beings]

Hynavian

10-19-2007, 02:29 PM

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chezkimo

10-19-2007, 02:33 PM

we have 2? pages.

In any case, Nope raises some VERY good points. We havn't seen Riful or Duff fight seriously. But mayber it's to do with her calm confident outer exterior. imagine if she got angry! you'd have metalic death ribbons shooting from every corner in all directions! And all those ribbons..i don't think even the fastest claymores will come out without atleast a cut. Oh and in the case of the riful/duph tag team she could swing him around like a giant baseball bat. buut i digress.

Yeah, they might not even cross paths seeing as riful's in the opposite corner of the west and the org's in the east. But pyscho, you got it backwards, riful will let duff jump into the battle recklessly first and while alicia will be in the middle of dealing with him, then riful will go into awakened mode and attack surprisingly.

also, what you said about the abyssal ones being able to go to another higher level. they are already on that higher level, it's why they're so big, where as prissy, who is so small yet much more powerful compared to them hasn't gone to her higher level. if you get what i mean. so, what happened at the end of the anime series might just happen in the manga if prissy would to tap into her full power. but when that happens hell will be let loose.

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and thanks prezzy for scan and translation, LOL that was so funny./

hollywoodlou

10-19-2007, 04:26 PM

n any case, Nope raises some VERY good points. We havn't seen Riful or Duff fight seriously. But mayber it's to do with her calm confident outer exterior. imagine if she got angry! you'd have metalic death ribbons shooting from every corner in all directions! And all those ribbons..i don't think even the fastest claymores will come out without atleast a cut. Oh and in the case of the riful/duph tag team she could swing him around like a giant baseball bat. buut i digress.

We HAVE seen Riful get uncommonly pissed off, which is rare when Clare fooled her into giving info without due compensation @ the end of chapter 73. She used her big size to jab at anything within the 200 feet radius to kill Clare (who was carrying ANOTHER Claymore on her shoulders)...which is far different from the composed Riful we're used to.

She's not used to being on the other end of the stick, so her ego couldn;t take it. It's only when she's in control, that we tend to like her.

On the "fighting seriously" issue, it doesn't matter. Duff just stays put like a guard dog until his gf is in trouble. A very good duo, actually. I think she'll still live a long time in the Claymore series, until a brand new Abyssal shows up and takes R's place.

Yeah, they might not even cross paths seeing as riful's in the opposite corner of the west and the org's in the east. But pyscho, you got it backwards, riful will let duff jump into the battle recklessly first and while alicia will be in the middle of dealing with him, then riful will go into awakened mode and attack surprisingly.

There could be a point with what psycho's saying...you dont become # 2 by looks or by being the sister if the #1.

Think about it. Since childbirth, I understand she's trained to hold Ali's soul, fine. What's the sword for? If you're # 2, you should have your own post, like the rest of 1 to 47. You're telling me she's a sitting duck?

Eventually in time, she will be used to the responsibility of having soul duty, and with experience and practice, show that it's 2nd nature, and wont have any problems or dfficulty bearing Ali;s soul.

also, what you said about the abyssal ones being able to go to another higher level. they are already on that higher level, it's why they're so big, where as prissy, who is so small yet much more powerful compared to them hasn't gone to her higher level. if you get what i mean. so, what happened at the end of the anime series might just happen in the manga if prissy would to tap into her full power. but when that happens hell will be let loose.

I think we are looking at a sneak peek at what will eventually happen, that Clare is outclassed by Pris in the end, but Clare will eventually prevail. BUT I don't want to base my logic on that stupid anime and will stick with manga, ty very much.

Just like what psycho said, they are indeed on a level which is far superior from #s 3 downwards. I still cant wait what happened to A/B and the rest of the gang in 7 years. Also, those tight black unis on A/B are giving me a lot of lustful ideas.:devil:

chezkimo

10-19-2007, 04:59 PM

Just like what psycho said, they are indeed on a level which is far superior from #s 3 downwards. I still cant wait what happened to A/B and the rest of the gang in 7 years. Also, those tight black unis on A/B are giving me a lot of lustful ideas.:devil:

:O Tsk tsk. Prezzo *shakes head*

Oh yeah, i do remember that part of chapter 73, i didn't know she jabbed everything within a 200ft radius. But yeah, she did get angry. it's funny though coz she didn't growl/roar or say "get back here bi*ch" or anything like that, all she said was "please don't take my prey!". Talk about taking your manners seriously!

And yeah, i kinda noticed the pattern, when a new abyssal one comes along (prissy dosn't really count) another gets picked off. It's like a rule that there can only be 3. example, Alicia/Beth comes along, whose refered to as an abyssal one (well that's what riful refered her to anyway) and the abyssal of the south gets killed. Coincidence, i think not!! I think the author wants it to be only 3 corners, so that the whole world isn't in war! After all, if all 4 corners are governed by each abyssal one, then there's bound to be battles!

And yeah, i'll agree with you that Beth will become ore used to the soul link and able to control her sister and so she'll become stronger but i think Alicia can only become stronger in terms of battle experience.

I still can't believe how much people have been still tlking about clayore though when we've all had to wait till november. when i heard bout it i thought that claymore would slowly start to be forgotten about, seeing as that happens sometimes when a manga/anime has an intermission.

Hynavian

10-19-2007, 06:16 PM

we have 2? pages.
I have translated 3 so far.

Erm sorry maybe I should re-phrase my question.
How many pages are there in databook 1 and databook 2? I have 24 raw pages of databook1 but only 20 raw pages for databook2.

and thanks prezzy for scan and translation, LOL that was so funny./
No problem, Im working on the next one :lol:
I was laughing while translating/editing them. I'm enjoying myself too.

Won't be sleeping today as I have to work on my project. Hence, will be online for a real long time.

hollywoodlou

10-19-2007, 08:35 PM

O Tsk tsk. Prezzo *shakes head*

oh please, spare me the sensitivity issues.:devil:

And yeah, i'll agree with you that Beth will become ore used to the soul link and able to control her sister and so she'll become stronger but i think Alicia can only become stronger in terms of battle experience.

Eventually what's going to happen is that Beth will evolve into more than just a soul-carrier. With practice, she could do this in her sleep, and most probably battle anyone who interferes with Alicia. Like I said, she's no sitting duck, she can AND WILL defend herself if necessary.

I still can't believe how much people have been still tlking about clayore though when we've all had to wait till november. when i heard bout it i thought that claymore would slowly start to be forgotten about, seeing as that happens sometimes when a manga/anime has an intermission.

It's been getting monotonous and boring on some Claymore sites that every known angle and theory ahs been talked about.

chezkimo

10-19-2007, 10:47 PM

LOL. If Beth could do it in her sleep then what if Alicia would awaken in her sleep. And then they'd be killing awakened ones in thier sleep by accident. lol. although it won't be very good waking upto a whole load of dead yoma bodies one sunday morning.

And yeah, i'd expect that almost every theory has been talked about. After all, even us the 1MMCM havn't been as active as we used to be because we've talked about about it so much. In fact, i think we've gone beyond the max. when we got to 7 threads. But it's good that the new chapters will be arriving soon. Good we don't have to wait till like december coz then i think we'd start, just alittle bit, to get kinda bored.

But moving on, do you guys know any good supernatural/fantasy/dark fantasy mangas? dark fantasy especially if you know? coz all the ones i've been reading have either just not being translated or have stopped!

And if you ask me we need more dark fantasy mangas like claymore!

hollywoodlou

10-19-2007, 11:10 PM

LOL. If Beth could do it in her sleep then what if Alicia would awaken in her sleep. And then they'd be killing awakened ones in thier sleep by accident. lol. although it won't be very good waking upto a whole load of dead yoma bodies one sunday morning.

I dont have a problem with that, believe it or not.

And yeah, i'd expect that almost every theory has been talked about. After all, even us the 1MMCM havn't been as active as we used to be because we've talked about about it so much. In fact, i think we've gone beyond the max. when we got to 7 threads. But it's good that the new chapters will be arriving soon. Good we don't have to wait till like december coz then i think we'd start, just alittle bit, to get kinda bored.

I dont think there's a maximum. Our closest competitors are Negima with thread # 7 (like us) and Ichigo (with 6). When darth was around, I could just go on with him and stretch it to 6 pages. LOL

And you thought you've heard every theory, eh? Heard about the one that Raki is actually Clarice? :lol:

But moving on, do you guys know any good supernatural/fantasy/dark fantasy mangas? dark fantasy especially if you know? coz all the ones i've been reading have either just not being translated or have stopped!

And if you ask me we need more dark fantasy mangas like claymore!

You read D gray Man and Hellsing? I think they're considered dark' mangas. You want dark' mangas/animes, try Night Head genesis, it's screwed up. 666 satan could be up there as well.

psychotic

10-19-2007, 11:49 PM

LOL. If Beth could do it in her sleep then what if Alicia would awaken in her sleep. And then they'd be killing awakened ones in thier sleep by accident. lol. although it won't be very good waking upto a whole load of dead yoma bodies one sunday morning.

sleepwalking while killing yomas? see! i told you they're that powerful and unstoppable. LOL

And yeah, i'd expect that almost every theory has been talked about. After all, even us the 1MMCM havn't been as active as we used to be because we've talked about about it so much. In fact, i think we've gone beyond the max. when we got to 7 threads. But it's good that the new chapters will be arriving soon. Good we don't have to wait till like december coz then i think we'd start, just alittle bit, to get kinda bored.

I dont think there's a maximum. Our closest competitors are Negima with thread # 7 (like us) and Ichigo (with 6). When darth was around, I could just go on with him and stretch it to 6 pages. LOL

And you thought you've heard every theory, eh? Heard about the one that Raki is actually Clarice?

yeah, our competitor is negima and ichigo, they're both ok to read but they're no claymore. and i also agree that if becomes december instead of november, ill start biting my computer cables due to my impatience.

i read about that, hollywood. that was really funny...but i cant seem to look at clarice the same way after reading that. lol

But moving on, do you guys know any good supernatural/fantasy/dark fantasy mangas? dark fantasy especially if you know? coz all the ones i've been reading have either just not being translated or have stopped!

And if you ask me we need more dark fantasy mangas like claymore!

i have a lot of tastes in my mangas. dark mangas are ok for a change of pace and hellsing, d gray man are worth it to read. i think they are classified as dark mangas. i also saw/read night genersis btw. yes, it's a screwed up version of the x-files.

No problem, Im working on the next one
I was laughing while translating/editing them. I'm enjoying myself too.

Won't be sleeping today as I have to work on my project. Hence, will be online for a real long time.

go on and continue, we're not stopping you.:lol: (fooling prezzy's ego so the work continues while we lazily wait and hy does all the work).

chezkimo

10-20-2007, 04:43 AM

Ooh, i started to watch the DGray man anime but i gave up on it so i thought the manga wouldn't be worth reading. But i'll try it out. Mangas for some reason can be so much better than animes.

And OMG, why did you have to tell me that there's a theory going around that Raki is clarice! Like psycho said, i will never look at clarice the same way now. i'll always be trying to speculate if she acts at all like Raki.

Besides, how could she be? Clarice has boobs, and straight hair and he wouldn't join the org--i don't think so anyway. so many reasons why that theory sounds too wrong. But then again, i think it has happened in a different series before.

By the way, i've always kinda wandered, how do they actually get the yoma blood into the claymores? do they directly inject it? but they couldn't do that could they coz their bodies would straight away reject it. And where do they get the blood from? do they have a yoma storage closet? and what yomas do they choose? i mean, in the case of some of them claymores being hella powerful, teresa for example, they can't just use those ordinary crappy yomas can they?

any ideas?

and Hy, can't wait for the next comic strip! Keep em coming!

nope

10-20-2007, 05:36 AM

Rakki = Clarice??? i don't think thats possible. Only thing even close to being possible along those lines is rakki has yoma blood put into him. But the ORG doesn't do that anymore, so it would have to be isley. But i don't think he'd do that.
on the yoma blood thing, i think they just cut em open and throw em in and the body adapts, it might not make sense but i'll stick by that assumption ^^

Hynavian

10-20-2007, 07:29 AM

I think we are looking at a sneak peek at what will eventually happen, that Clare is outclassed by Pris in the end, but Clare will eventually prevail. BUT I don't want to base my logic on that stupid anime and will stick with manga, ty very much.

I totally agree with you on this Prezzo. I hope that the manga will not end up like the anime. Imagine Clare walking away with an adult Raki at the end of the manga.....Roaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr :mad:

LOL. If Beth could do it in her sleep then what if Alicia would awaken in her sleep. And then they'd be killing awakened ones in thier sleep by accident. lol. although it won't be very good waking upto a whole load of dead yoma bodies one sunday morning.

Now they would then be undefeatable. I'm sure no awakened beings would stand a chance against a duo who totally rip others apart in their sleep!

But moving on, do you guys know any good supernatural/fantasy/dark fantasy mangas? dark fantasy especially if you know? coz all the ones i've been reading have either just not being translated or have stopped!

I know fantasy mangas but I'm not sure whether they're dark enough to your liking. Shakugan no shana and Fate stay night are Fantasy mangas but I don't think that they're dark enough to your liking.

How about Id, Hellsing (the others have also mentioned this countless times) or Elfen Lied (sci-fic with aliens).

And if you ask me we need more dark fantasy mangas like claymore!

Heard that Basilisk and Berserk are near cousins of Claymore. Maybe you can try reading them?

Ooh, i started to watch the DGray man anime but i gave up on it so i thought the manga wouldn't be worth reading. But i'll try it out. Mangas for some reason can be so much better than animes.

Same. I watched the first 3 episodes and then I gave up watching. Didn't even get to the manga though. Too many machines involved.

and Hy, can't wait for the next comic strip! Keep em coming!

I'm met with some difficulties for the upcoming one but I'll try my best. The difficulties are all those kana words! I never expect the mangaka to be so 'Westernise' as he used words like boot camp. It took me like an hour to figure out what this word is as it's so unexpected. I'm now stuck with 3 kana words that have multiple meanings and all don't make sense to me! I think he should stick to hiragana and kanji and not bring in kana >.<

PS: by the way, what is a boot camp? Sorry for noobish question. :(

hollywoodlou

10-20-2007, 07:29 AM

Ooh, i started to watch the DGray man anime but i gave up on it so i thought the manga wouldn't be worth reading. But i'll try it out. Mangas for some reason can be so much better than animes.

You got right, Cap. Perfect example? Claymore.

By the way, i've always kinda wandered, how do they actually get the yoma blood into the claymores? do they directly inject it? but they couldn't do that could they coz their bodies would straight away reject it. And where do they get the blood from? do they have a yoma storage closet? and what yomas do they choose? i mean, in the case of some of them claymores being hella powerful, teresa for example, they can't just use those ordinary crappy yomas can they?

any ideas?

on the yoma blood thing, i think they just cut em open and throw em in and the body adapts, it might not make sense but i'll stick by that assumption ^^

That's the 2nd oldest mystery/question of Claymore, right after are the ORG members even human? I thought ES4 would shed light on it but I was disappointed it became a Clare hair show.

In Clare's case, because she's 1/4 yoma, she might have been more prepared to face the process more than the others. She's the only one known to have VOLUNTEERED for the transformation, as the cover states on ES4.

Of course no one knows but I'll speculate myself.

I think it comes down to EITHER drinking the yoma blood in measured ounces OR being transfused with the yoma blood, with a strict measurement of 50% human blood and %50 yoma blood. The ORg must've experimented numerous times just to get that measurement right. Judging by their jerk attitude in ES4 about losing many trainees, it wouldn't surprise me about the many test subjects they killed to get that measurement right.

There's a 3rd theory in chapter 2 or 3 when Clare was reminiscing about her days at Claymore camp with her best friend, and I had to re-read that quote that it may have sounded like rape' by yoma', but I wont go there.

hollywoodlou

10-20-2007, 07:32 AM

i read about that, hollywood. that was really funny...but i cant seem to look at clarice the same way after reading that. lol

And OMG, why did you have to tell me that there's a theory going around that Raki is clarice! Like psycho said, i will never look at clarice the same way now. i'll always be trying to speculate if she acts at all like Raki.

Besides, how could she be? Clarice has boobs, and straight hair and he wouldn't join the org--i don't think so anyway. so many reasons why that theory sounds too wrong. But then again, i think it has happened in a different series before.

Rakki = Clarice??? i don't think thats possible. Only thing even close to being possible along those lines is rakki has yoma blood put into him. But the ORG doesn't do that anymore, so it would have to be isley. But i don't think he'd do that.

:lol:

Piqued your interest, didn't I? And you guys thought you've heard every theory about Claymore. This pretty much blows the conspiracy theory about Irene being alive by a wide margin.

Listen up, this came from a poster on another Claymore site I;m a mbr of, and here's how the "theory" goes...

clarice is a "failure". Now by "failure" means that an experiment went wrong. The theory says that raki went to the ORG so he could become a claymore...to protect clare (duh). The ORg sensing that the first male in many years is, like clare, volunteering to become a claymore, becomes the newest experiment for them since clare-teresa. Because the male experiments didn't work well, the ORg decide to turn him female meaning Raki's...um...manhood...had to be cut off. due to the shock off it, raki or clarice (whatever) loses his/her memory. and as a code of the clare-like experiment, named him or her clarice...like clare.

****

now there's an update to this "interesting' theory that I read a week ago from the same forum, but I'll post it tomorrow.

hollywoodlou

10-20-2007, 08:05 AM

I'm met with some difficulties for the upcoming one but I'll try my best. The difficulties are all those kana words! I never expect the mangaka to be so 'Westernise' as he used words like boot camp. It took me like an hour to figure out what this word is as it's so unexpected. I'm now stuck with 3 kana words that have multiple meanings and all don't make sense to me! I think he should stick to hiragana and kanji and not bring in kana >.<

I already translated more than half of my Clare-san strips just by staring at it, and in my case it's the reverse. I'm having more problems with my gana' than kanji and kana combined. I was this close to asking this Japanese actor who went for audition to start reading the "problem" captions. LOL

PS: by the way, what is a boot camp? Sorry for noobish question

Boot camp is a western/American term for military camp, specifically the first 3 weeks of "physical training' that will either have you fail or pass the entire course. Those first 3 weeks were specifically designed to weed out the weak, and to have them learn the basics of military life like how to salute, learn the 2400 clock and train them to endure physical exercises so they will be both mentally and physically fit for the remainder of the course.

psychotic

10-20-2007, 09:01 AM

wow you guys have been busy...

I already translated more than half of my Clare-san strips just by staring at it, and in my case it's the reverse. I'm having more problems with my gana' than kanji and kana combined. I was this close to asking this Japanese actor who went for audition to start reading the "problem" captions. LOL

oh thanks hollywood for that 5 page translation for my kekkaishi bootleg manga that you pm'd me btw. :eban: and pls dont ask me where i got it...

clarice is a "failure". Now by "failure" means that an experiment went wrong. The theory says that raki went to the ORG so he could become a claymore...to protect clare (duh). The ORg sensing that the first male in many years is, like clare, volunteering to become a claymore, becomes the newest experiment for them since clare-teresa. Because the male experiments didn't work well, the ORg decide to turn him female meaning Raki's...um...manhood...had to be cut off. due to the shock off it, raki or clarice (whatever) loses his/her memory. and as a code of the clare-like experiment, named him or her clarice...like clare.

oh god, i cant just imagine it. i dont know about you guys but i feel sick all of a sudden just by imagining it. and worse, raki's got boobs and being sucked on by miata....bleeeeccchhhh.:lol:

I think it comes down to EITHER drinking the yoma blood in measured ounces OR being transfused with the yoma blood, with a strict measurement of 50% human blood and %50 yoma blood. The ORg must've experimented numerous times just to get that measurement right. Judging by their jerk attitude in ES4 about losing many trainees, it wouldn't surprise me about the many test subjects they killed to get that measurement right.

There's a 3rd theory in chapter 2 or 3 when Clare was reminiscing about her days at Claymore camp with her best friend, and I had to re-read that quote that it may have sounded like rape' by yoma', but I wont go there.

on the yoma process, you've again made good points sempai. i also noticed that because we don't what world claymore is based on, either the past, future, another dimension, i am unaware if they have the concept of needles where they can transfuse the yoma blood unto the poor girls.

and i also read that sentence about clare and her friend. unfortunately, my own interpretation is also rape by yoma. it is very sickening. that's why i have to go with either drinking yoma blood in small amounts or by applying yoma blood by transfusion. unless there's a 4th version i haven't conceived yet, those are the closest i can think of.

beakedbard

10-20-2007, 10:34 AM

Sry i'm late i was out getting high XD

12 DAYS TIL THE NEXT CHAPTER COMES OUT!

Hynavian

10-20-2007, 10:59 AM

There's a 3rd theory in chapter 2 or 3 when Clare was reminiscing about her days at Claymore camp with her best friend, and I had to re-read that quote that it may have sounded like rape' by yoma', but I wont go there.

Hor! I'm going to re-read volume one again to find this quote when I'm free. :thumbup:

Listen up, this came from a poster on another Claymore site I;m a mbr of, and here's how the "theory" goes...

clarice is a "failure". Now by "failure" means that an experiment went wrong. The theory says that raki went to the ORG so he could become a claymore...to protect clare (duh). The ORg sensing that the first male in many years is, like clare, volunteering to become a claymore, becomes the newest experiment for them since clare-teresa. Because the male experiments didn't work well, the ORg decide to turn him female meaning Raki's...um...manhood...had to be cut off. due to the shock off it, raki or clarice (whatever) loses his/her memory. and as a code of the clare-like experiment, named him or her clarice...like clare.

It's bad! I was expecting some action between Clare and Raki but if Raki is to ........ (ok let's not go there).

Imagine Clare seeing a sissy Raki 7 years later. Well maybe they can come up with some onee-sama relationship like what we see in maria-sama ga miteru -_-

oh god, i cant just imagine it. i dont know about you guys but i feel sick all of a sudden just by imagining it. and worse, raki's got boobs and being sucked on by miata....bleeeeccchhhh.:lol:

Come to think of it, Raki and Clarice personalities are so different. Raki likes to cry and is weak. But Clarice does not cry though she is weak. Hmm....so I reckon we can use this point to prove that Raki is not equal to Clarice?

:eban:
PS: I can't imagine Miata climbing all over Raki and sucking his >.< No!!! Who came up with this theory?!?

and i also read that sentence about clare and her friend. unfortunately, my own interpretation is also rape by yoma. it is very sickening. that's why i have to go with either drinking yoma blood in small amounts or by applying yoma blood by transfusion. unless there's a 4th version i haven't conceived yet, those are the closest i can think of.

To save me the trouble of re-reading the whole volume again, tell me which chapter and which page please? :D

Actually Im thinking, maybe they inserted Yoma flesh and blood into the girls' chest to stomach area? (Teresa bandit encounter scene where they were disgusted by Teresa's front body wounds) Blood transfusion would not have cause much big scar on your body unless they point the needles everywhere from top to bottom of your body.

Hynavian

10-20-2007, 11:10 AM

Databook 2 Page 19

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/0f06b774012110c258be0e0c6e37e8796g.jpg

For more information on what is a boot camp, refer to Prezzo holly's post Here (http://forum.onemanga.com/showpost.php?p=118153&postcount=107)

Note 1: Added in some side stuff so as to aid you all in better understanding what's happening.

Note 2: After thinking for a long time, I realised that the kata words could actually be hiragana words or some colloqual slangs instead. Hence, I used the ones that I think are the most appropriate. Don't shoot me if I get it wrong and please enlighten me if I'm wrong. :D

Enjoy yourself guys!

Click Here (http://www.mediafire.com/?02jsrym5ym2) to download (Bigger version)

beakedbard

10-20-2007, 11:24 AM

*hugs hyn again* THANKS :D those made my day even though its 11:30am XD

recXion

10-20-2007, 01:53 PM

hi everyone, i'm new here, just joined less than an hour ago :P

anyways, i've decided to post here first since claymore's the latest manga i've been reading...glad my friend introduced it to me, i fell for the storyline hook, line and sinker haha.

hmmm...where to start? okay, firstly, i'm with the raki is NOT clarice side lol...it's so >.< to imagine him turning into a gal. anyway, here's my argument: clarice's hair was originally a strong colour, and due to her "incomplete" merge with the half-yoma within her, her hair still retained some colour, something which she was constantly being picked on as a result. raki's hair, on the other hand, was "white" in the manga, whereas clarice's hair was shaded, so they can't be the same person :P

my fav char's clare :P not because she's the protagonist and all, but rather i like her for her unchanging feelings towards teresa, as well as her affection towards raki. to quote him, "you say that you're not a nice person, but you're (in fact) the nicest person i know". i really envy him, by the way, esp during the episode where she kissed him :P

yep, that's all for my first post i suppose, will look forward to any replies :) i'll try to post as often as i can yeah :)

claymore rocks!

Hynavian

10-20-2007, 02:41 PM

*hugs hyn again* THANKS :D those made my day even though its 11:30am XD

No problem buddy. And thanks for the count-down.

hi everyone, i'm new here, just joined less than an hour ago :P

Hi there, welcome to the forums.
We're nice people!!!!
Feel free to read through the past few threads :)

my fav char's clare :P not because she's the protagonist and all, but rather i like her for her unchanging feelings towards teresa, as well as her affection towards raki. to quote him, "you say that you're not a nice person, but you're (in fact) the nicest person i know". i really envy him, by the way, esp during the episode where she kissed him :P

My favourite character is Galatea though. Ah! How about your favourite antagonist?

yep, that's all for my first post i suppose, will look forward to any replies :) i'll try to post as often as i can yeah :)

Please do :) We're always around the Claymore thread and like discussions.

Hynavian

10-20-2007, 02:45 PM

Databook 2 Page 20

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/eff55061bbe66494625448082e744dc26g.jpg

Did two pages today :devil:
Can I have a check please.
How many raw pages of book 1 and book 2 do you all have?

Click Here (http://www.mediafire.com/?e9y2mmnzdjf) to download (Bigger version)

EDIT: Just changed the link as I realised that I have typed one of the character's name wrongly.

recXion

10-20-2007, 03:46 PM

ahahah omg that bottom-most right clare looks soo cute :D

hmmm fav antagonist...*ponders* Galatea! haha that's cos she was nice enough not to turn clare in :D plus i've got this feeling she's gonna side with clare afterwards, which would kinda make her unqualified to be an antagonist then i suppose :P

oh, and many thanks for the warm welcome! XD

psychotic

10-20-2007, 04:53 PM

t's bad! I was expecting some action between Clare and Raki but if Raki is to ........ (ok let's not go there).

Imagine Clare seeing a sissy Raki 7 years later. Well maybe they can come up with some onee-sama relationship like what we see in maria-sama ga miteru -_-

Come to think of it, Raki and Clarice personalities are so different. Raki likes to cry and is weak. But Clarice does not cry though she is weak. Hmm....so I reckon we can use this point to prove that Raki is not equal to Clarice?

PS: I can't imagine Miata climbing all over Raki and sucking his >.< No!!! Who came up with this theory?!?

:D

i feel so dirty when i read that theory because I thought clarice was cute. it's like that movie the 'crying game" when the lead actor knew his gf was a guy, he started taking cold showers and starting throwing up lol

well, the reasoning here is that raki lost his memory, so he should've developed his new charactertistics which makes the theory valid in a way.

so just in case, it's true,,,claymore becomes a yuri series?:lol: i can imagine clare getting mad at clarice, raki...um, whatever for doing this to himself.

+ oh, thanks again hynavian for the comics, keep doing everyday! lol

hi everyone, i'm new here, just joined less than an hour ago :P

anyways, i've decided to post here first since claymore's the latest manga i've been reading...glad my friend introduced it to me, i fell for the storyline hook, line and sinker haha.

oh hi there and welcome!

i also joined this month and listen to the co-presidents (hollywoodlou and hynavian) of the forum or 1MMCM, they have the best debating and discussion skills on this board, im learning a lot as well. dont forget the captain, chezkimo.

pls. feel free to read through the past threads, it's like getting an education in claymore with those 2 at the helm, prezzo (hollywood) and prezzy(hynavian).

also, next week is ophelia week...and every week we have a 'claymore of the week" events, where we change our banner or signature to that claymore.

this week it's riful. so you may have noticed a lot of us have changed our banners.

chezkimo

10-20-2007, 06:38 PM

Lol. Thanks for the stuff Hy. Tsk tsk, Ophelia, we all knew that was coming. In fact it would have been more effective to say i DO want the Rubel one.

Anyway, yeah, welcome recxion! I'm the captain (that title really has no meaning but i won't tolerate you calling me anything else!) Yeah, you can always come on to find something new in this thread, esecially from the hy and Lou.

In some ways Clarice is like Raki. It's funny though coz i half expected clarice, for the first time seeing her, to turn out like clare, a failure experiment who becomes strong by her own means. But quite the opposite, she was weak, she stayed weak and will continue to be weak. That and the fact that she's got no guts or ultimate goal like clare has.

clarice and miata are like watered down versions of the former number #47 and #4: clare and ophelia. But could you imagine if those two actually became a combo and followed each other. ophelia would be cutting off clare's limbs all the time and reattaching them just for fun.
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oh yeah, i'm reading Gantz now. you guys read it? it's not exactly fantasy but very dark!

Hynavian

10-20-2007, 07:08 PM

hmmm fav antagonist...*ponders* Galatea! haha that's cos she was nice enough not to turn clare in :D plus i've got this feeling she's gonna side with clare afterwards, which would kinda make her unqualified to be an antagonist then i suppose :P
I'm hoping that Galatea will join the Big 7! The whole forum (Claymore only) knows that I'm mad over Galatea and am really happy to see more manga pages of her anytime :)

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+ oh, thanks again hynavian for the comics, keep doing everyday! lol
Guys, I have to go semi-inactive for 4 days to tide myself through the assignments. Hence won't be able to do some translating and will be posting lesser for the next 4 days. Prezzo, take care of them ya! Don't bite them into pieces during my absence. :lol:

i also joined this month and listen to the co-presidents (hollywoodlou and hynavian) of the forum or 1MMCM, they have the best debating and discussion skills on this board, im learning a lot as well. dont forget the captain, chezkimo.
If you all notice, it's Prezzo who's giving/providing the more concrete arguments nowadays. I'm more into the translating and let's kill off all the assignments mode.

However....I'll be back soon! :eban:

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Lol. Thanks for the stuff Hy. Tsk tsk, Ophelia, we all knew that was coming. In fact it would have been more effective to say i DO want the Rubel one.
I'm confused over your above sentence (i bold the above).
You mean I should change the words in the bubble to "Do you want to be killed by the Rubel style attack" instead?

clarice and miata are like watered down versions of the former number #47 and #4: clare and ophelia. But could you imagine if those two actually became a combo and followed each other. ophelia would be cutting off clare's limbs all the time and reattaching them just for fun.
A agree that Clarice is a watered down version of Clare but I do not for the Miata-Ophelia case. To me, Miata's strength and special abilities did look as frightening and as powerful as those of Ophelia's attacks. Hmm maybe we can say that Miata is the more mentally disturbed being and hence is the watered down version of Ophelia's sanity. (means Miata is more mad as compared to Ophelia)

oh yeah, i'm reading Gantz now. you guys read it? it's not exactly fantasy but very dark!
Neh, I wanted to drown myself in mangas and animese but can't find the time to do so. Maybe I can join you in December or something. Take your time to read ya. :)

chezkimo

10-20-2007, 07:22 PM

LOL. No, don't change any sentences. I meant that whatever Clare told Ophelia she'd still put the Rubel killing pattern on her. Silly clare. Coz lets face it, Rubel's face looks kinda like a mutated frog! Oh, ohelia you evil witch, you.

And yeah, that's what i meant by watered down. I meant that they've taken one aspect of that character and maxed it. Clare being a failed experiment, tkae that to the extreme and you got clarice, whose a COMPLETE failed ex[periment to the point where she has colour in her hairn and can't even kill normal yoma.

Same with ophelia, as you've said, taken the insane aspect and multiplied it. Now you have miata, a psycho powerful claymore who sucks other people's boosoms!

And it's ok, HY, you can take time off...but when you get back you have to work 10 TIMES AS HARD! yep! by the end of it your fingers would have had bruses all over them and be broken just from typing too much :D

nope

10-20-2007, 07:26 PM

im confused at how clarice passed the graduation test, clare might have been weak but even she could take on 5 yoma at once. clarice is like the pinacle of horrible, she must have gotten extremely lucky.

Hynavian

10-20-2007, 07:59 PM

LOL. No, don't change any sentences. I meant that whatever Clare told Ophelia she'd still put the Rubel killing pattern on her. Silly clare. Coz lets face it, Rubel's face looks kinda like a mutated frog! Oh, ohelia you evil witch, you.
Ah ok I understand now. Geez....must be the time. It's so late at night now and I'm feeling drowsy.

And it's ok, HY, you can take time off...but when you get back you have to work 10 TIMES AS HARD! yep! by the end of it your fingers would have had bruses all over them and be broken just from typing too much :D
I don't see anymore manga strips in the 2 databooks that I have as I have translated all of them right? I'll start tanslating the data pages next.

Just a check, did I miss out on any manga strip pages? A total of 5 manga pages from the 2 databooks right?

beakedbard

10-20-2007, 10:31 PM

OH RIIIIIIGHT i almost forgot 11 DAYS TIL THE NEXT RELEASE!!!

psychotic

10-21-2007, 03:54 AM

In some ways Clarice is like Raki. It's funny though coz i half expected clarice, for the first time seeing her, to turn out like clare, a failure experiment who becomes strong by her own means. But quite the opposite, she was weak, she stayed weak and will continue to be weak. That and the fact that she's got no guts or ultimate goal like clare has.

i kinda beg to differ captain. it's like a set up for us when we thought clare was weak as well at 47. but you are right that there are similirities between the 2.
now i dont want to throw up again, but they have the same look, same stupid inadequacies, same lankiness and feel like fish out of water. thank the lord this is just a theory. hollywood prezzo, this is your fault!:lol:

clarice and miata are like watered down versions of the former number #47 and #4: clare and ophelia. But could you imagine if those two actually became a combo and followed each other. ophelia would be cutting off clare's limbs all the time and reattaching them just for fun.

i could imagine it, but ophelia is dead. i wish for teresa to be alive but that just wont do. we have to follow the new generation and hope they wont disappoint us.
miata has more potential than ophelia though and they're both mentally unstable, but i think miata is gaining more fans than ophelia as well.

Guys, I have to go semi-inactive for 4 days to tide myself through the assignments. Hence won't be able to do some translating and will be posting lesser for the next 4 days. Prezzo, take care of them ya! Don't bite them into pieces during my absence.

If you all notice, it's Prezzo who's giving/providing the more concrete arguments nowadays. I'm more into the translating and let's kill off all the assignments mode.

However....I'll be back soon!

hy, dont forget your ophelia banner!

nope

10-21-2007, 05:19 AM

i am getting the distinct feeling that when we see rakki hes going to be really strong and cool. That however is in conflict with what i already know about rakki (hes a pu**y).

Tensa Zangetsu

10-21-2007, 08:15 AM

Raki will NEVER be strong - weve been over this, a human will simply NEVER hold a candle to a claymore and especially an awakend being in a fight EVER!!! They simply arent capable of doing so...

beakedbard

10-21-2007, 10:39 AM

And if raki becomes a claymore i'll consider not reading claymore ever again why can't he die :mad:

Hynavian

10-21-2007, 03:57 PM

i could imagine it, but ophelia is dead. i wish for teresa to be alive but that just wont do. we have to follow the new generation and hope they wont disappoint us.
miata has more potential than ophelia though and they're both mentally unstable, but i think miata is gaining more fans than ophelia as well.
I also wish for Teresa to be alive. And I wish Flora and Jeane to come back too....oh and not forgetting veronica too.

They're great warriors IMO and are great beauties :eban:
Poor Cynthia, losing her bestest best friend to a lion paw. I guess the ones left behind had to suffer the most.

hy, dont forget your ophelia banner!
Neh I won't. I came online just to change the banner. Its going to be monday soon for me here.

And if raki becomes a claymore i'll consider not reading claymore ever again why can't he die :mad:
Careful beakedbard. He might turn out to be a claymore. You never know the prowess of mangaka.

Ok guys, Im doing the disappearing act now. See you all a few days later. Wish me luck with my assignments.

beakedbard

10-21-2007, 04:25 PM

If he has a complete personality revamp i'll accept it 10 DAYS TIL THE NEXT CHAPTER RELEASED

psychotic

10-21-2007, 04:42 PM

Poor Cynthia, losing her bestest best friend to a lion paw. I guess the ones left behind had to suffer the most.

cynthia's leader was veronica, right? not flora. i dont think they were really, really friends but cynthia just wants to even the score when she joined the 7. yeah, she was a beaut with that nice ponytail of her.

Raki will NEVER be strong - weve been over this, a human will simply NEVER hold a candle to a claymore and especially an awakend being in a fight EVER!!! They simply arent capable of doing so...

definitely. the first thing i;ve learned while reading claymore? humans suck and are yoma food.

raki may practice until his blue in the face and become the greatest human warrior but in the end, even the worst claymore trainee will pawn him.

supremecommander

10-22-2007, 06:08 AM

nope

10-22-2007, 06:35 AM

if you message greg with the sig rules you can have your sig shown, i think.

psychotic

10-22-2007, 07:45 AM

Hello, gang! I was referred to this site by hollywood and pleased to meet you all. I am a fan of Claymore and Clannad and lots of mangas I cant even describe right now. I was told there is a banner contest or similar to that but I cannot post mine due to being new.

oops, sorry for my Veronica avatar!^^ I'll try changing it for an Ophelia banner.

hey welcome! as previously said, you can email greg that you have read the rules and he'll get you in. i did the same thing like 2 or 3 weeks ago and i was super brand new.

prezzo sure knows a lot of people...

hollywoodlou

10-22-2007, 08:06 AM

Hello, gang! I was referred to this site by hollywood and pleased to meet you all. I am a fan of Claymore and Clannad and lots of mangas I cant even describe right now. I was told there is a banner contest or similar to that but I cannot post mine due to being new.

oops, sorry for my Veronica avatar!^^ I'll try changing it for an Ophelia banner.

WTF!? I just mentioned this site to ya months ago, and you finally found it. LOL .Ladies and gents, this person knows a LOT about Claymore. ;) It'll be a good discussion from now on. hehe

and change your av at least for Ophelia week.

Hynavian

10-22-2007, 01:54 PM

Hello, gang! I was referred to this site by hollywood and pleased to meet you all. I am a fan of Claymore and Clannad and lots of mangas I cant even describe right now. I was told there is a banner contest or similar to that but I cannot post mine due to being new.
Hello welcome to the forums. Have I met you somewhere before cause your nick sounds familiar.

cynthia's leader was veronica, right? not flora. i dont think they were really, really friends but cynthia just wants to even the score when she joined the 7. yeah, she was a beaut with that nice ponytail of her.
Yup her leader was veronica and Veronica got killed by a lion paw too (Rigardo). All the 4 leaders received a paw from the lion guy and Jeane was the only babe who accepted it graciously without dying.

Yay Jeane! :eban:

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Prezzo you have a wicked avatar and signature.
Ah....I find the moving avatar greatly done and I admired it for a full one minute. :lol:

supremecommander

10-22-2007, 04:00 PM

Hello welcome to the forums. Have I met you somewhere before cause your nick sounds familiar.

Prezzo you have a wicked avatar and signature.
Ah....I find the moving avatar greatly done and I admired it for a full one minute. :lol:

Not that I know of. I don't use supremecommander' at that Claymore forum. The reason why I came here was because the forum is dead right now because we're waiting for the manga and every topic has been covered, so we're just repeating ourselves.^^

Oh yeah, hollywood uses the best avatars and sigs, but he's not the only one who uses "moving" gif's though.^^

And TY for the welcome!

chezkimo

10-22-2007, 05:02 PM

Hi! Better late than never but welcome to the forum! You can never have enough claymore crazy people!

And about the claymore of this week's banner and avatar - ophelia.
I didn't notice this until now but it's funny cause we all know that at the end of ophelia dying we see her in the water with her last breath. And she was crazy right.

Well, there was a painting called ophelia, which was a painting about a woman who was crazy and drowned/drowned herself.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w60/tagnola/ophelia.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m33/angellis18/me/Cpiadeophelia1.jpg

If you see the picture up closer (coz i have it hanging in my hallway) their faces and the way they look are very simular. think the author could have gotten the idea of a tragic ophelia from this?

Not only that but he's gotten many names that are related to art/artists. Example, apparently Rubel was from Louvre. Don't ask me how, but aprrently it kind went from Louvre to Rouvel to Rubel when translatting.

Just thought i'd share this with you people. what do you think?

hollywoodlou

10-22-2007, 06:00 PM

Prezzo you have a wicked avatar and signature.
Ah....I find the moving avatar greatly done and I admired it for a full one minute. :lol:

Thanks. Regarding the avatar? It's supposed to give you seizures.:lol:

Not that I know of. I don't use supremecommander' at that Claymore forum. The reason why I came here was because the forum is dead right now because we're waiting for the manga and every topic has been covered, so we're just repeating ourselves.^^

Oh yeah, hollywood uses the best avatars and sigs, but he's not the only one who uses "moving" gif's though.^^

Alright, behave yourself.;)

If you see the picture up closer (coz i have it hanging in my hallway) their faces and the way they look are very simular. think the author could have gotten the idea of a tragic ophelia from this?

Not only that but he's gotten many names that are related to art/artists. Example, apparently Rubel was from Louvre. Don't ask me how, but aprrently it kind went from Louvre to Rouvel to Rubel when translatting.

Just thought i'd share this with you people. what do you think?

I also found out that the names of Undine, Jeane, Ophelia, Teresa are named after asteroids. But your Ophelia comparisons are also intriguing. It may have been an eerie coincidence but your Rubel connection...I don't know about that.

chezkimo

10-22-2007, 06:15 PM

hollywoodlou

10-22-2007, 06:28 PM

OH. So that's why i was on the floor foaming. And here i thought it was because i had eaten too much washing powder...it's a favourite snakc for me :D

Now that's interesting, i would of never thought that they are named after astoroids! Makes you wander where the other names came from. Although, some of them are just too normal and avaredge. Like clare.

Thanks, but it's really true that's why Rubel's name came from. I read it, apparently, all the "handlers" are named after artsits/art or has something to do with art. I don't know why, perhaps to show how the handlers are like "upper-class" in the claymore world (meaning they're snobbish and cold) lol....which is axctually true!

But this thing about ophelia, for me, just points even mopre so to the point that she was doomed for tragedy to begin with the start. First there's her symbol. Than there's her number, then her name. Loads of stuff associated with tragedy/bad luck or crazziness. Poor ophelia, didn't know what was coming did she.

The handlers are named after artists?? That's news to me...Ermita is a well known community in the Philippines, and there's nothing artsy about the place...well, you could have a pitcher of beer for $2 ;) but that's not the point. The point is that handlers are SUPPOSED to be a pain in the *** supervisors of their flock, and yes, being cold is part of their routine. The snobbish part? Just looking at Ermita at his ridiculous ninja costume doesn't fit the description of "snobbish".:lol:

Here's another thing to remember about the #4's. The 4 connotation in Japanese kanji also refers to DEATH or DEFECT, so that's why ALL #4's are crazy. (Ophelia and Miata).

chezkimo

10-22-2007, 07:10 PM

jedimaster5000

10-22-2007, 07:55 PM

Is it true that the manga goes on farther then the anime? If thats true then its a shame, because I thought for sure this anime would be able to go on pretty far (I guess I'll just read the manga if it is)

chezkimo

10-22-2007, 08:09 PM

Yep, it's definatly true! Actually, the anime started to change dramaticly around episode 20/21 and TBH compared to the manga, the ending of the anime sucked! Infact the manga's still continueing, but it had an intermission and the next chapter(s) will be out 2nd november.

If you wanna read from the point it started to change go to the northern war chapters.
Alot happens in the manga that dosn't happen in the anime. Example, Isley and the abyssal one of the south luciela fight. And you actually get to see alicia and beth, the BIG project experiment they were talking about.

hollywoodlou

10-22-2007, 08:41 PM

Well, Ermita's a different story. I don't taker notice of him...and yeah, it's because he's wearing that funny ninja-like get up. But what i said applies to MOST of the other handlers. after all, the rule's not gonna apply to all of em! I'll send you the link where i read it off. I actualy read it on wikipedia. And they're usually pretty informed about stuff like this. And the upper-handlers (the ones who control everything) are definatly snobbish. That's what i think anyway. Like when they're talking about clare and it not being possible that she was the one who killed ophelia in her awakened state.

Yeah, that's what i meant about ophelia's number also being linked to tragedy/crazziness. Hmm, we should figure out stuff about miata as well. You think the author is one of those people who like the put subtle conotations in his work so that the readers get clues and hints of the character?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Claymore_characters

this is where i got the info

And this is what it says about ermita (surprisginly)

Ermita (エルミタ, Erumita?) is a member of the organization, who is in charge of Galatea and Miria. His name is derived from the Hermitage Museum (エルミタージュ Erumitāju in Katakana).

Thanks for the link. UNFORTUNATELY, I dont trust Wikipedia, a site where virtually ANYONE can manipulate and change information at a moment's notice.

If you were talking about the "upper echelon" of the ORg, then I agree, there's something snobbish...NO, strike that..."evil" about them.

On the connotations about #'s and the Claymore rankings of characters, the #4 symbol is the only one that I can come up with.
If we are talking about # 47, it could be because 47's start off weak, or they appear to be at first glance. I am sure that we will be fooled again with Clarice, another # 47.

And you can assume as well, it could be Raki.;)

Is it true that the manga goes on farther then the anime? If thats true then its a shame, because I thought for sure this anime would be able to go on pretty far (I guess I'll just read the manga if it is)

Oh hell yes! The ending of chapter 60 (manga) is "supposedly" the end of the anime series episode 26. The manga chapter is now at 73.

My friendly advice? Read the manga FIRST. Then switch to the anime series so you will have an objective take on the series, with both sides of the medium.

The reason for this is that the anime has dramatically swerved towards an ORIGINAL ENDING which is NOT FROM THE MANGA, but SIMILAR. The anime followed faithfully the manga until episode 19, then any manga follower of the series will obviously notice the changes.

If you look at ANY Claymore thread/forum, it's mostly that people have hated the ending, but overall, the animation is superb. It's the final 7 episodes and it's writing that's ..."idiotic'..especially with Raki.

chezkimo

10-22-2007, 09:11 PM

I guess you're right about wiki, but no one bothers to write the stuff unless they know what they're talking about. I mean it's not written guessing all the info is it.

and to be honest, there's something evil with all the handlers, even ermita. And i still can't figure out what is with them! They act like they can't be touched and that they're far superior than the claymores themselves. But they don't ever never get thier hands dirty and what if all the claymores went against them, for some reason, and they had all 47 claymores up against them, wouldn't they not stand a chance in hell? AND there are no female handlers. Talk about sexist!

But i guess with alicia and beth, who'd be able to take down any of the other 45, serving and protecting them...but still...

I think in the end there might be a big event and everything will be revealed and they'll have to fight the org, or something like that. I mean, there must be a great evil conspiracy because even whenever a claymore runs away they get hunted down for it. Very, very suspecious.

hollywoodlou

10-22-2007, 09:25 PM

Speaking of Ermita, I once saw this fanfic cartoons of Claymore which goes something like this ( it was drawn via pictures of course)

A Claymore fan goes out with his son in a ninja get up for Halloween. He knocks on the door with his kid and the kid says "trick or treat!"

Door guy: "Well, I can understand that your child dressed up like Spiderman, aren't you old enough to be in a ninja costume?"

The Claymore fan: 'This is not a ninja costume, I;m supposed to be Ermita from Claymore.."

Door Guy: "And who the f*** is Ermita?"

and to be honest, there's something evil with all the handlers, even ermita. And i still can't figure out what is with them! They act like they can't be touched and that they're far superior than the claymores themselves. But they don't ever never get thier hands dirty and what if all the claymores went against them, for some reason, and they had all 47 claymores up against them, wouldn't they not stand a chance in hell? AND there are no female handlers. Talk about sexist!

In Claymore thread 2 (I think) when I was talking with Hy, we were actually discussing that. Remember "Mr Rado"? Whom Clarice was talking to...I thought he was a she based on the drawing. There are no female handlers, which is surprising. I still think the ORG are 'disciplined yoma/AB's". or they're a bunch of pervs who get their happy looking at their products.

But i guess with alicia and beth, who'd be able to take down any of the other 45, serving and protecting them...but still...

I would really love to see that rumble. A/B vs the 7? That's a pay per view ticket.

chezkimo

10-22-2007, 11:10 PM

wow, look how late it is. soz about the klate response.

Anyway, LOL, i would love to see that comic strip! Forsome reason it just sounds funny. But to be honest even though i'm a claymore fan and someone came dressed up as ermita at my door and says "i'm dressed up as ermita" i'd be like "..........ok. good for you." *closes door fast!*

Just coz WHO would wanna dress up lke him!

And yeah, i saw and joined in that discussion, and i also said that i think they did the experiment on themselves but it was too early in the process and it gave them negative side effects and that's why they're defigured and live forever, coz that's also what happens with normal claymores, except it effected thier faces. But i don't know how the process of the yoma transfusion/experiemtns work so that theory isn't really concrete.

And yeah, i'd like to see that too. And i think Alicia wouldn't have too much of an easy time coz trhink about it. Helen stretches she dodges, but then miria comes outtta no where and does multiple mirages, she blockes it and then deneve jumps high and tries to strike (get an arm chopped off maybe but regenrates it), clare goes full-throttle with being half-awakened and using wind cutter, and yuma would read her yoki to tell where she'll atack next. So, the seven might have a chance.

But while they're doing that they probably won't notice Beth, when all along all they have to do is kill the dazed chick and it'll all be over. And then by the time they figure it out, they'll all be warned out. But then so will Beth, and so it'll come to a draw. But that's just a random, long-winded, unconcrete guess. :D

Moving on. is it me or do the org make such stupid and foolish decisions. First, all tier (or atleast most) of the first generation awakens. You'd think they'd be more careful. Then , they try a newer, stupider thing and get riful, whose only a small girl and tremendously powerful and straight away put her as #1. She awakens. Then even STUPIDER, they think "lets try out this soul linking idea on two UN-IDENTICLE twins and see if it works". Luciela awakens. there's ya 3rd abyssal one. Then they let ophelia, crazy *****, run wild- awakens. And now, they've got miata, crazy child-minded psycho going around with a weak substitute for a mother. Um, where might this be leading, lets WAIT for her to awaken to find out. Is it me or is there a pattern here. When you let the young and crazy out to run wild, they're gonna run wild!

hollywoodlou

10-22-2007, 11:35 PM

Anyway, LOL, i would love to see that comic strip! Forsome reason it just sounds funny. But to be honest even though i'm a claymore fan and someone came dressed up as ermita at my door and says "i'm dressed up as ermita" i'd be like "..........ok. good for you." *closes door fast!*

I'd bet you wouldn't do that if some hot leggy Scandinavian chick dressed like Galatea would knock on your door at Halloween.;)

And yeah, i saw and joined in that discussion, and i also said that i think they did the experiment on themselves but it was too early in the process and it gave them negative side effects and that's why they're defigured and live forever, coz that's also what happens with normal claymores, except it effected thier faces. But i don't know how the process of the yoma transfusion/experiemtns work so that theory isn't really concrete.

To me, it's not like they failed...it seems their hatred for yomas and protection of humans is very genuine.

BUt I think their numbskull experiments on yomas which eventually became AB's was their wrongdoing and now they have to correct the situation out of guilt.

And yeah, i'd like to see that too. And i think Alicia wouldn't have too much of an easy time coz trhink about it. Helen stretches she dodges, but then miria comes outtta no where and does multiple mirages, she blockes it and then deneve jumps high and tries to strike (get an arm chopped off maybe but regenrates it), clare goes full-throttle with being half-awakened and using wind cutter, and yuma would read her yoki to tell where she'll atack next. So, the seven might have a chance.

But while they're doing that they probably won't notice Beth, when all along all they have to do is kill the dazed chick and it'll all be over. And then by the time they figure it out, they'll all be warned out. But then so will Beth, and so it'll come to a draw. But that's just a random, long-winded, unconcrete guess.

How many times am I going to tell you that in 7 years Beth has got the "soul keeping" duty down to 2nd nature? She could fight (and will to defend herself) and that Claymore of hers is definitely not to accessorize her hot black slick suit.

Moving on. is it me or do the org make such stupid and foolish decisions. First, all tier (or atleast most) of the first generation awakens. You'd think they'd be more careful. Then , they try a newer, stupider thing and get riful, whose only a small girl and tremendously powerful and straight away put her as #1. She awakens. Then even STUPIDER, they think "lets try out this soul linking idea on two UN-IDENTICLE twins and see if it works". Luciela awakens. there's ya 3rd abyssal one. Then they let ophelia, crazy *****, run wild- awakens. And now, they've got miata, crazy child-minded psycho going around with a weak substitute for a mother. Um, where might this be leading, lets WAIT for her to awaken to find out. Is it me or is there a pattern here. When you let the young and crazy out to run wild, they're gonna run wild!

I cant answer in general terms but the ORG aren't getting dumber for every experiment they take. They should be able to learn their lessons, and A/B is an example.

On Miata, I don't think her craziness is a result of the ORG experiment. Maybe the process/transformation hit a snag which is different from the Clare-like experiment but I don't see her craziness directly connected to any special experiment. It's like for every blind date I;ve been on, they can't all be 8's...one of them will be a 2 which happened to me recently.

chezkimo

10-23-2007, 12:00 AM

LOL. No, if i saw a hot chick dressed up like galatea, first i'd be like WTF is with that costume (coz it's gonna be like plastic) and then when she leaves THEN i'll realise that she was hot. LOL. Yeah, i've got bad luck like that.

i don't kinda get what you're saying in the second point, but i see why thier guilt would be huge and that they genuinly want to save humans. But i think that they've been at it for so long that they've become abit inhuman. I mean, it goes like this. When there first few warriors die or awaken back then they were fazed and felt huge guilt and some sorrow but because they're so many deing since then, now they've gone to a point where they don't care anymore. same with when claymores go renegade, there might of been one in the first generation that kept going wild and renegade so they had to take him out. After that, killing thier own men gets easier and easier.

And still the soul link, does take alot out of beth, even if she does become to master it fully, but would she have the strength to deal with soul-linking AND fighting the enermy. i think that she'd be able dodge them and block them but wouldn't be able to put her effort into fighting them full on.

And i didn't say that miata's craziness is linked to her becoming a claymore, but she's crazier than any other claymore. Once something happens to clarice, she'll probably awaken. Like i said, the more crazier or younger they are the more they're gonna awaken. examples: Riful, youngest #1 and youngest to awaken. And then ophelia. (enough said)

But yeah, they're definatly making less and less mistakes. It just seems that the most recent accidents seem to create more damage!

Oh yeah, makes me think. Do you think it's a possible theory that maybe the Org created yomas. Not the awakened beings but the normal ones.

nope

10-23-2007, 12:19 AM

i was wondering about that earlier on, like where the original yoma came from. Im sure they didn't just appear out of thin air. heres another theory, maybe the org handlers are the remnants of some older, more developed civilization which collapsed for some reason.

chezkimo

10-23-2007, 12:33 AM

Hmmm, interesting theory. But i don't know. Claymore dosn't seem to be a manga that has that kind of back story. But i guess ya never know. But i have a bad feeling that we still won't find out when this manga is over. coz apparently, it's only gonna last another 70 chapters or so. Is that it hollywoodlou? Coz i was devastated when i heard that. Atleast it won't be one of those mangas that go on forever, and just loose the plot at some point. The best things always end the quickest.

Question, if you had to be an abyssal one or awakened being, which one would you be? (I'm not gonna askw hich claymore, coz we all know that!)

You know which one i am (enough said)

nope

10-23-2007, 12:41 AM

Riful, second would be Isley.

chezkimo

10-23-2007, 12:47 AM

W00t. Another riful fan! yay!...these guys always say that riful's gonna get killed by alicia or iisley, they are so mean!!

nope

10-23-2007, 12:49 AM

i know T-T Riful is to good a character to die. i wanna see a Riful Story for the next deleted scene .

chezkimo

10-23-2007, 12:56 AM

Yeah, me too. I wander what she looked like with the claymore white/blonde hiar. If i try to imagine he like that, she just looks wierd. And for such a little girl, i wander what she was like as a claymore, i mean she was the youngest #1.

Anyway, I'm getting off now, bye.

Alberio

10-23-2007, 01:02 AM

Maybe Isley, because I like his awakened form and ability to make his arm change into stuff.

Ability-wise I also like Riful's, since she can do that "thing"(stripish I guess) with de-assembling her body.

hollywoodlou

10-23-2007, 01:14 AM

Oh yeah, makes me think. Do you think it's a possible theory that maybe the Org created yomas. Not the awakened beings but the normal ones.

Anything is possible. As mentioned, yomas eventually becomes AB's but the evidence and some "events' such as the comments by Ermita to Galatea and comments also by a yoma at ES4 have put more weight that the ORg has a direct link to a yoma factory.

I didn't say yes, definitely but the signs are there.

Question, if you had to be an abyssal one or awakened being, which one would you be? (I'm not gonna askw hich claymore, coz we all know that!)

You know which one i am (enough said)

A/B. You know who I'm going with here.

chezkimo

10-23-2007, 01:23 AM

oH yeah, on es4. When there was that one yoma who conciously knew what he was doing. infact he said "i can't believe these are graduates, they can't even hide thier yoki".

hmmmmmm, very very suspecious!!

and oh yh, i'm back again. lol

and no i don't know. which one you gonna be?

hollywoodlou

10-23-2007, 01:28 AM

A/B. They're AB;s right?

nope

10-23-2007, 01:40 AM

they are claymore, but they are also ABs. its on the line, is it in or out?

hollywoodlou

10-23-2007, 01:41 AM

They're in...even Riful admitted it in chapter 49.

chezkimo

10-23-2007, 01:45 AM

Yeah, they're not really considered as yoma, but they are considered as abyssal ones. so i GUESS they're in.

hollywoodlou

10-23-2007, 01:51 AM

The Abyssal's need to increase their ranks.

nope

10-23-2007, 01:53 AM

therefore, the magnificent 7 should join Riful.

hollywoodlou

10-23-2007, 01:57 AM

Riful is just going to eat them, forget it.

nope

10-23-2007, 02:08 AM

I would enjoy that outcome thoroughly XD.

hollywoodlou

10-23-2007, 02:11 AM

Leave Miria, Cynthia and Helen alone...the rest can die, including Riful.

nope

10-23-2007, 02:15 AM

riful lives, you'll see! Also clare awakens and eats Rakki

hollywoodlou

10-23-2007, 02:20 AM

clare awaken? Not a chance. BUT as long as Raki suffers before he dies, I will accept that.

nope

10-23-2007, 02:28 AM

Rakki becomes a claymore. But riful and duph torture him to death.

psychotic

10-23-2007, 02:34 AM

what the hell? you guys have been busy! i dont know where to begin here...

raki should definitely go, but we don't have any more guys to look up to. so we're stuck with the brat.

i agree that he should be tortured and suffering even before he becomes a claymore.

supremecommander

10-23-2007, 03:35 AM

How's it going gang?

Wow, this forum really is busy! I'm like psycho, I don't know where to begin. hmmm......

In continuation of Chezkimo's question on which Abyssal I'd like to be...I would have to go with Priscilla. She's the most powerful of them all, and her yoki level is THAT ridiculous. I know a lot of people hate her for killing Teresa but in hindsight, it was a necc. move on her behalf, taking out the most powerful Claymore.

On the other hand, her despicable move resulted in a blood vengeance from Clare that will eventually lead to her death. Well, I dont want to be her BUT her place in the series, yoki wise is almost absolute.

^^

MacenKrace

10-23-2007, 05:44 AM

supremecommander

10-23-2007, 07:17 AM

Dude... this conflict started because of a man (Isley) so don't blame her for anything else... power is just a tool for them.

Well "dude", could you please elaborate on how Isley single-handedly started this conflict? And I don't think Isley whispered or yelled like a cheerleader at Priscilla when she cut off Teresa's head in a cowardly way.

Well, it takes a narrow minded person to think that a small time player like Isley should be pulling the strings, when in fact, he's the one being played by forces bigger than he is. Have you even thought about the possibility that the ORG is setting the pieces up that the Abyssals are going to kill each other, which is their master plan?

Isley isn't that smart for the following reasons; he lost all his men and marched them to their deaths at the hands of both Alicia/Beth and Riful....some genius. Plus, he picked a fight with Riful, who has one loyal soldier on her side. That's one: Duff. And just the pair of them defeated 11 of his best AB's that trounced the Claymore army at Pieta.

His best move (and only smart move)? Getting Priscilla to be on his side. Once Priscilla comes back to full consciousness, it's game over for Mr. Metrosexual. He narrowly escaped death with Luciela, and his only trump card is Priscilla. Clare and the 7, on the other hand have the most to gain and have the winning hands in their favor.

psychotic

10-23-2007, 07:55 AM

Dude... this conflict started because of a man (Isley) so don't blame her for anything else... power is just a tool for them.

huh??? when exactly did isley start the claymore wars? lol now that's funny.

so basically what you're saying mac is that we shouldn't blame prissy because isley is the brains behind it all? the only thing he's got is prissy. that's it. other than that, he's just any other abyssal, maybe equal to the power of riful. i actually think riful has a more insightful brain than isley but then again, she looked foolish at the end of chapter 73.

on the other hand, isley's calm and powerful but his plans to march his men vs. the east backfired against riful, duff and the hot twins. yep...some leader.

beakedbard

10-23-2007, 09:42 AM

**** i completely forgot to say 9 DAYS TIL THE NEXT CHAPTER RELEASE! lol its like 5 hours til i've gotta do it for the next day.

MacenKrace

10-23-2007, 10:06 AM

Well "dude", could you please elaborate on how Isley single-handedly started this conflict? And I don't think Isley whispered or yelled like a cheerleader at Priscilla when she cut off Teresa's head in a cowardly way.

Well, it takes a narrow minded person to think that a small time player like Isley should be pulling the strings, when in fact, he's the one being played by forces bigger than he is. Have you even thought about the possibility that the ORG is setting the pieces up that the Abyssals are going to kill each other, which is their master plan?

Isley isn't that smart for the following reasons; he lost all his men and marched them to their deaths at the hands of both Alicia/Beth and Riful....some genius. Plus, he picked a fight with Riful, who has one loyal soldier on her side. That's one: Duff. And just the pair of them defeated 11 of his best AB's that trounced the Claymore army at Pieta.

His best move (and only smart move)? Getting Priscilla to be on his side. Once Priscilla comes back to full consciousness, it's game over for Mr. Metrosexual. He narrowly escaped death with Luciela, and his only trump card is Priscilla. Clare and the 7, on the other hand have the most to gain and have the winning hands in their favor.

Really now? it was Isley in the first place who decided to stay in the North and Isley who decided to battle Priscilla. Due to his defeat he took command of the forces of the North to take Priscilla to the South. If Isley would have just stayed put and never attacked Priscilla nothing would have happened. Simple isn't it?

chezkimo

10-23-2007, 04:07 PM

Yeah, i toally see what suppercommander is saying. Isley is doing unnessacary (sp?) stupid actions. He's the one going around starting wars, thinking, "i'm gonna own all the lands". It's really only coz of him why things have turnt out this way. Th most part anyway. And he did intentionally send 11 ABs to be killed at the west and the ORG just to distract them, but really he only needed to send em all the riful because she was the one who made an aliance with luciela. And he kinda seems that he dosn't really know everything, even though he acts like it.

Riful on the other hand, does seem to have more insight. Infact, she's only torturing claymores and turning them so that she can stand a chance against isley/prissy combo. Infact, at times she seems as though she wants to be out of the way and not get involved. She could of easily gone down to the south if she had no worries from the 11 ABs that were sent to her and Duph.

And that makes me think aswell. Isley went to the south to fight luciela. Why didn't he go to the west to riful? I mean, it's closer right. And she only has Duph. Which makes me wander, what is Riful's power level? more than luciela? And where was raki when this was happening?! He wasn't seen at the end when isley was all warn down with prissy there.

supremecommander

10-23-2007, 04:21 PM

Really now? it was Isley in the first place who decided to stay in the North and Isley who decided to battle Priscilla. Due to his defeat he took command of the forces of the North to take Priscilla to the South. If Isley would have just stayed put and never attacked Priscilla nothing would have happened. Simple isn't it?

No, it's not. You had a 2 pronged answer...dont blame Priscilla, which came from my explanation of Priscilla's cowardly act of killing Teresa and the Isley is the person behind it all, including the current war.

Now your sentence was the most vague answer on this board so far. It's what is called a "blanket statement", hoping that your answer would ultimately cover everything. BUT IT FAILED MISERABLY.

1) You didn't even answer correctly about Priscilla's action on Teresa.

2) You are just answering Isley's presence as the general behind it all. As explained....NO. This is bigger than Mr. Metrosexual. The entire series is NOT going to rest on isley as the villain.

There are only 2 antagonists worth following: The ORG and Priscilla. Without Priscilla, Isley is just Riful, a lruking non-factor. It is and always will be Priscilla who will be the only reason why Isley suddenly developed balls. And the original reason why Isley marched South was for Priscilla.

In addendum, Isley wouldn't even have "stayed put" as you say...he had amassed an army, and what do you think you should do with an army freezing in the cold? Use them, obviously!

beakedbard

10-23-2007, 05:09 PM

Damn you peoples and your cleverness XD

8 DAYS TIL THE NEXT CHAPTER OF CLAYMORE IS RELEASED

chezkimo

10-23-2007, 05:12 PM

*nod nod* umhum, umhum. If Isley was on his own, luciela and riful would of owned him together. For example, if after isley had a battle with luciela prissy wasn't there riful would of cut him into shreds and owned him in seconds. Either that or tortue him to death. and lol, why d'you keep calling him a metrosexual? does he really act that gay?

and i wouldn't really call the ORG an antagonist. But yeah, isley will get killed, riful will slip away, not to come out for another seven years when there's a new generation of claymores to torture and prissy will be the big final villain at the end.

But it's kinda funny coz Isley is doing all this stuff for prissy and he's kinda getting stringed along by a person who isn't pulling any strings. Sentence makes no sense i know but you get it. And all the while long prissy is just like dazed.

hollywoodlou

10-23-2007, 05:14 PM

:lol: sc, I knew you wouldn't stay quiet for long! Ease up on Mac...

Yeah, i toally see what suppercommander is saying. Isley is doing unnessacary (sp?) stupid actions. He's the one going around starting wars, thinking, "i'm gonna own all the lands". It's really only coz of him why things have turnt out this way. Th most part anyway. And he did intentionally send 11 ABs to be killed at the west and the ORG just to distract them, but really he only needed to send em all the riful because she was the one who made an aliance with luciela. And he kinda seems that he dosn't really know everything, even though he acts like it.

I hate admitting it, but supreme is right, in a way. Isley isn't the one to be feared here. The reason why Isley is going on the offensive is because of Priscilla. I remember hearing a quote on Red Dawn, the movie..."what caused this war?"
"Well, when you've got 2 bullies on each side of the street, eventually they're gonna fight it out."

2 powers of immense size cannot co-exist peacefully. That's the way life is. It's like Manchester and Chelsea. They're both powerhouses, but eventually they have to fight for SUPREMACY.

Isley didn't start the war, as Mac stated blankly...it is a series of events that led to Isley marching to the south. It is Priscilla's presence and like sc stated, when you have built a large army in the cold, you will eventually use them.

It's like buying a Ferrari. I know an owner here in Hollywood who collects them. Once he bought them, he couldn't stand just looking at them...he had to drive them. That's what cars are for...driving.
Armies are the same thing...once you build something, you will have to use it because it has a purpose and that is to go after the enemy, whomever it may be.

psychotic

10-23-2007, 06:39 PM

prezzo and commander, your arguments are starting to make sense to me now. lol i really dont have any respect for isley after reading your comments. but anyways, as a riful fan i can understand the sides taken in this issue. i actually think that the org has been masterminding everything, like moving chess pieces slowly so the result will be in their favor.

i'll be honest and say that i have never liked isley but the awakened isley is a powerful abyssal that no one can take lightly. and yeah, isley was wrong in marching his entire army just to let them die. that wasn't a very good move on his part. and judging by the #'s of ex-claymore males who became ab's, he has no army left unless he turns humans into claymores then ab's which is highly unlikely.

and isley must have a plan for raki. raki is an idiot, so he's not much use to him in the short run. for now, isley looks noobish and i can see based on prezzo and sc's arguments that isley isn't that much of a leader, for now.

chezkimo

10-23-2007, 07:53 PM

psychotic

10-24-2007, 12:09 AM

I wouldn't really go to that extreme, myself. But i would say that he is far too arragant. He dosn't think things through i think.

But remember he wasn't lying when he swore loyalty priscilla. He'll keep Raki around for the soul purpose of keeping prissy company. Once she gets bored of him though, that's it for him. Dinner time!

I still don't see why SC wants to pick prissy as his AB though. i mean yeah, she has MASSIVE power, but all for naught, she's conmpletly dazed and dosn't even ever use her power. That and she killed teresa....and also i don't like her hair cut and the way she saw the world when she was a claymore, all black and white, not taking into account human emotions. I guess there's too many reasons NOT to like her.

And how come everyobdy has dark hair. Every claymore that is before they became half yoma. none of them has blonde hair. Even teresa apparently had brown hair before she became a claymore.

i've been thinking about isley's place as well. he's almost as reckless as riful and he seems to know what the consequences are but he still goes with it anyways.

i also agree on the raki's place as either priscilla's toy or priscilla and isley's buffet course. it's either isley has plans for the only walking piece of meat to those 2 or he's just a pet to priscilla. i dont think he;s their equal. i mean, if i was all powerful and this weak human was associating himself with me, i'd think less of him.

im not too sure about sc's pick for priscilla. i think sc was just being different from the rest f us riful fanatics, and i respect that. sc was able to make up arguments that are sound and logical.

bad thing is macenkrace didn't defend himself and his short sentences are just too vague.

about the hair? like im to care about their hair. lol if this going to be another clare hair discussion like in extra scene 4, i might as well be hairdresser.

chezkimo

10-24-2007, 12:27 AM

w00t! go riful fans! lol.

but yeah, to be honest, i didn't really see the point of ES4. I thought they were actually gonna show us what apart of her transformation was like, and how she met her freind, ya know that girl she had to kill in the first volume coz she was sent a black card.

Oh yeah, some people were saying that they translated that in the first chapter, it says they are "r*pped" (don't know if we're allowed to use that word or not) but when i re-read the chapter (i'm re-reading clamyore now) it just said that the yoma blood and flesh are put inot them.

But yeah, not to get into a discussiona bout hiar, but still, i can't get over how all of em are dark haired. even teresa, and she'd not look hot with brown hair! and all ABs in thier fake human forms all have dark hair. What? did blonde hair used to be in but now it's not or something??

and wander what it'd be like to be a claymore?! kinda cool. but then there is the whole thing you only get picked if your whole family has been killed, which sucks!

What technique would you guys have? Mine would be galatea's yoki manipulation. make yomas make prats of themselves. lol