Kekkaishi

[Lainemaa]

haha i wish... im korean... too bad lol

weelllll,,, whenever this manga comes out, I always try to read it.. Kekkashi's story is getting pretty interesting.. It is really fun to read it.. Though I don't really get much time to read manga in the internet.. huhuhuhuhuh..

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I got bored waiting

Yeah, Mee to Ichi released a new chapter!
Well, it's the continuation of the previous chapter...in the end Yoshimori wasn't caught, and Tokine ended up relying on him a bit.
It was cute to see their relationship evolve like that

[Lainemaa]

I just finished all the Kekkaishi chapters on OM last night. I think I might just have a new favourite shounen.

The art is good, the style reminds me of FMA, some of the character designs are very similar.

Aside from Yoshimori who's just the typical shounen cliche I like all the characters. I have especially liked all the bad guys so far. They manage to be both intriguing and creepy at the same time, definitely not one-dimensional generic evil incarnates.

While I was really shocked and saddened about Gen's death since I liked him, looking back I can only say that it was a good decision overall. Somebody actually dying makes the threath seem so much more real. And his relationship with Yoshimori was a bit too much on the cliched side too. I like Kagemiya's interactions with Yoshimori much more, maybe because it's not straightforward as Kagemiya has his own agenda.

When Masamori was first introduced I was sure that he was going to become a main villain and I was pleasantly surprised when he didn't. Even more pleasantly surprised when he didn't turn out to be an angel either but a jerk who just happens to be on the heroes' side.

The plot is complex, unpredicatble and intriguing. And the fights are blessedly short. The "magic" in the manga is well thought out and makes sense with the characters mostly well balanced.

I'm running out of positive adjectives here. I like this a lot. Also I didn't read any of the posts in the previous thread so sorry about probably repeating stuff. :D

[Patch]

Woot nice new chapter,but im starting to wonder what is the main goal of kekkaishi?
beside yoshimori and Tokine getting together.

[Azamiko]

One of the things I like about Kekkaishi, Patch, is that we don't get a main bad guy right away that we know will be the 'end boss.' Nor is there some goal like 'save the princess.' I think this gives Kekkaishi a lot more freedom than other shounen manga series. I absolutely love all of these mini-arcs! If you want to say there's a 'main plot,' it'd have to be the underlying plot of 'what is this place?' We get lots of clues, but it still feels so far away...I hope this series continues for a long time, like OP.

Lainemaa, those are a lot of the things that I love about this series as well. ^^ Though, I did love Gen's straightforward personality, following him up with Sen is just brilliant. I like other characters, but I think these two will remain my favorites. Hahah, and actually, one of the things I really want to see is Sen turning fully to Yoshimori's side. Like Tokine said in chapter 220, Yoshimori is always getting lectured and treated like an idiot--Tokine has evolved into believing in him, but she still doubts first. I'd like to see someone become his follower. And I'd like it to be Sen, because Sen is one of the people who sees him the clearest and the most, aside from Sen having a whole lot of common sense.


*cheers for new chapter*

[methaniel]

Well, there is the Ougi family which is for now the main ennemy of the plot, being behind most of the events that happened (but there is a lot of other great family we don't know yet). And the main plot would be Yoshimori trying to seal Karasumori, but it won't happen before long looking at how it moves (and anyway, the struggle of power is far more interesting at the moment)

Hmuh about Sen, I didn't liked him at first, mostly because it was hard to get pass Gen's death (which I admit was a genius idea), but now I'm starting to grow used to him lurking around Tokine and Yoshimori and helping them somehow

[Patch]

well I do love the small stories in kekkaishi and Yoshimori's love for coffee is so funny.

[liine]

I don't like those small stories either. It slow downs the main story and the plot gets pushed aside. The prophecy of Karasumori's destruction is already almost forgotten.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Chapter 220 is by far my favorite chapter of Kekkaishi. I always like to see Yoshimori and Tokine's relationship develop. Yoshimori avoiding Tokine forced her to question her feelings toward him and I think she realizes that she doesn't want him to ignore her. Sen is a pervert, grabbing Tokine's bust while being in danger is just wrong. THANKS FOR RELEASING THIS CHAPTER 3 DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS!...

[Ruggia]

I don't like those small stories either. It slow downs the main story and the plot gets pushed aside. The prophecy of Karasumori's destruction is already almost forgotten.

well u will see it pretty soon or be patient... (if my memory is not failing me, its probably next chapter...)

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Is Sen a boy or a girl? because that other guy calls him/her Sen-chan. (http://www.onemanga.com/Kekkaishi/220/18/)The term Chan in Japanese is usually used on young females.

[methaniel]

You can use -chan for boys though it's really rare (as there is sometimes -kun for girls), but Sen is a boy

[Lainemaa]

Isn'r Shuu the only one who calls him Sen-chan though? Shuu seems like the type to do that.

[Azamiko]

Usually, but not always. Young boys are called chan as well. Sen is a boy, definitely. (People shouldn't take things like 'chan' and 'kun' so seriously.)

Sen isn't a pervert! He wasn't groping her, but he HAD to hang on somehow. And he's a teenage boy, of course he's going to notice her chest size!

Liine, if we just focused on the main plot, this manga would be much shorter and have a lot less depth. Also, I don't believe that the Ougi family will be the 'main boss.' It had seemed like the guy who killed Gen would be a main boss, but he wasn't. I think the only thing that is consistent as the 'main' plot is Karasunomori. (I keep translating that in my head and wanting to call it 'Crow's Forest' if I don't stop to think about it.)

[Namikaze_Naruto]

You can use -chan for boys though it's really rare (as there is sometimes -kun for girls), but Sen is a boy

Yeah I guess your right. In the anime/manga world chan is sually used on guys with girly/kawaii faces.

[sejoon700]

yay! its awsome to have a moderator like kekkaishi =)) *cheers for the new chapter* and hopefully the next 21 chapters will be released as they are already out in Japan.

*tokien is just so cute* xDD

[Azamiko]

Tokien?

Ah, it's been a long while since I paid close attention to what people used. Once I get a feel for the character's interactions, I don't pay attention to the details used to cement the impression. Ie, if Yuuko calls Watanuki '-chan,' I won't pay attention because she teases him a lot. If a stranger doesn't use anything, then I notice and wonder.

[YoOH1992]

HELLO as i was finding a raw manga this day i found the site that has the manga 221-241 but as i read the manga darn i can t understand it coz its japanese so if anybody would gladly translate it to english i would gladly thank you T_T here is the site.......

http://8comic.com/html/1444.html

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- it is found on the lower part of the page
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[lilgrob]

HELLO as i was finding a raw manga this day i found the site that has the manga 221-241 but as i read the manga darn i can t understand it coz its japanese so if anybody would gladly translate it to english i would gladly thank you T_T here is the site.......

http://8comic.com/html/1444.html

- it is found on the lower part of the page
- found on the lower part of the page

Actually, that is not in Japanese. Not sure exactly sure if its Chinese or Korean...

[methaniel]

Thanks for mee-to-ichi, a new chapter is out!
Things ae developing again!
The crisis announced before is about to arrive...I wonder if the rampaging giant Land God will come in Karasumori (though, I don't think so for now)
And the "ennemies" are beginning to move they are using kekkaishi as well (which would explain how the lands were attacked).
And on the final page who's talking...is it Karasumori?
Really good chapter, I can't wait to see what's next

[Ruggia]

HELLO as i was finding a raw manga this day i found the site that has the manga 221-241 but as i read the manga darn i can t understand it coz its japanese so if anybody would gladly translate it to english i would gladly thank you T_T here is the site.......

http://8comic.com/html/1444.html

http://8comic.com/html/1444.html

http://8comic.com/html/1444.html

http://8comic.com/html/1444.html

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- it is found on the lower part of the page
- found on the lower part of the page

they are chinese. if u want to get or download raw chapters, try this site: http://www.jcafe24.com/index.php/topic,1686.0.html it has regular updates, and raws for manga volumes (this is where i used to get kekkaishi raw downloads, until mangahelpers created the read online thing)

i can spoil u by answering some questions about the chapters if u want.

[Lainemaa]

Don't discuss the content of the Raws here, scanlated chapters only.

EDIT: I mean that mentioning the raws and even linking to them is okay, just don't mention anything that happens in them or in any unscanlated chapter.

[kojika]

Man, I wish the scanlators would catch up with this series...one of my favorite characters hasn't even come in partially yet!

Anyways, I like how Yoshi has been developing over these past scanlated chapters...its a bit hard to explain, but it seems to me that there's a lot more changing in him and his power than even he can see at this time. He still has a lot to learn about himself though, but I think with keeping Sen and Shuu around, and of course, Tokine, he'll manage.

[Azamiko]

I didn't think it was that far behind...How many chapters are out in Japan?

[kojika]

I didn't think it was that far behind...How many chapters are out in Japan?

244 comes out this week. So, they aren't like majorly behind, but enough so that my current fave character hasn't come in. They are up to like chapter 220 on OM anyways. So, they are getting close to that, fortunately. Actually compared to sooo many other series, they aren't that far behind, so it's nothing more than a minor annoyance. I read it raw from the SS, but I like to read the scanlations, too, since I occasionally miss chapters.

[Azamiko]

Ah, thanks. So...What's this character like, if (s)he became your favorite withing 20 chapters...?

[Lainemaa]

Remember what I said about discussing the content of the raws.

Sorry to be a pest but I absolutely hate any spoilers and I'm probably not the only one. Take it to PM if you have to, please.

[kojika]

Lol, I understand that. My response was actually going to be that I won't say much at all. Even my reasons for that character being so fun with me, they are not really spoiler related so much, but it could be taken as such, so I won't say much.

On the plus side though, at least Kekkaishi is still being translated, so it should be gotten to eventually.

If you are still curious, azamiko, please PM me and I'll spoil you there. I don't like spoiling people period, but since it's not that much spoiler, I don't mind.

The thing I love about Kekkaishi is that within a couple chapters of the character coming in, you typically like them, especially if they have to meet up with Yoshi at any point. He has a good effect on people, despite his "attitude." Like, I liked Gen immediately, I liked Sen after two chapters, and I liked Shuu after like four, but as the story progresses, even if a character disappoints you, it doesn't do it so much as to make you dislike the character. In fact, I usually like them more. I like it when characters aren't infallible. Having flaws makes them more human, more realistic.

[Azamiko]

Eh? For once, I actually WASN'T asking for spoilers. (Though I might pm you anyway, since I like spoilers.) Honestly, my question was half-rhetorical--I wasn't expecting any sort of real answer...

I loved Gen, and Sen is probably my favorite character. They seemed to be on Yoshimori's side more than anyone else, though Tokine is getting there. (As far as I can tell, his father is the only family member who actually likes poor Yoshimori.)

[Lainemaa]

I'm just paranoid about spoilers. Sorry. I can't help going ballistic with any mention about what's happening in the future. Sorry again. :/

I agree with you two about the characters, though I don't think it's about Yoshimori that much. Just that the mangaka has the knack of making every character unique and likeable, even the minor villains. Sen might be my favourite too. He's such a realistic character smart, careful and with a nasty temper.

[kojika]

I got addicted to Sen pretty fast (he was my favorite for a long time, and now second), but I think the main reason is because I had already turned myself off to Gen (who IS awesome, but I started reading the manga in SS after his finale), so when I went and reread it, I distanced myself from him and went to other characters. Sen has a very amusing personality. I was pleasantly surprised with him all around. If I ever decide to do a Kekkaishi cosplay, he'd be the one I'd go as, but simply because I could use my real hair for him (though my hair is quite a bit longer).

I'm really looking forward to learning more about Sen's ayakashi powers. It seems like it almost comes up, and then something quells it down. At times, it makes me think of a cat, and other times, more like a dog...I know the ayakashi aren't typically anything in particular, but I'm wondering what his true form will look like. Shuu's is really predictable, bat-like, no dah.

[Azamiko]

Hm, I haven't gotten the feeling that there's anything particularly secret (from the audience) about Sen's powers. Yoshimori is pretty much the only person besides that spy-guy who knows the details WITHIN the story, though.

I love Sen's snark. ^^ And Gen was sweet--he's one of the rare cases where I like a character even after they're dead. (Most have wussy deaths. His was proof that he could have been even tougher.)

[kojika]

Gen was one of the best characters for other character developments, considering how much he affects everyone even after being gone. He's definitely had a looot of impact on Sen, which makes me very happy. I like the development that Sen's gone through because of Gen.

I'm not thinking it's necessarily something BIIIIG that they're hiding, but I have no doubt that there's more than meets the eye. I won't go into to many details, but I have my reasons for thinking that.

[Lone_ant]

http://www.onemanga.com/Kekkaishi/221/01/

Good News New Chap!

and,.. well that's the only good news.. it seems to be that things are steam rolling faster into some kind of major thing. Hopefully we will be able to know more about the various (torturously enticing) hints in this chapter with the coming chaps.

And what is that voice? Karasumori's Land God?!?

Also with the revelation of the relationship of Lands and their system, I'm thinking Karasumori is the central pillar for the Lands in Japan.. after all, Land Gods everywhere seem to be affected by Karasumori.. but the problem is, Karasumori is a recent phenomenon, so there should have been some other previous land that acted as Central Pillar at least until Karasumori was created (maybe that land's god got transferred to Karasumori and imprisoned there)

[Azamiko]

My theory is that the 'heir' takes the place of the Land God for Karasunomori, that it doesn't have one being but is the sum of all of them. And that it's like that because they killed the previous Kami and so had to replace it. That theory will probably change (again) next chapter. It changes a lot. ^^;

Oh, I didn't mean to say that we know all that we could about Sen. I want to know how he came to join the group...And yeah, Gen was a great catalyst for all of the other characters, particularly Sen and Yoshimori.

I'd be more excited about the new chapter if I hadn't read it at mangafox last week...=b

[kojika]

Ah, that was an awesome chapter. I thought that was the first chapter he officially showed up in, fufufu. I love the way the development is starting to take a turn. Karasumori never seems to get any breaks, but I enjoy watching them struggle to save it. I'm thinking that voice is Karasumori as well.

You know what, I never gave that much thought, but it makes a lot of sense. There typically has to be a central pillar, and that seems to make the most sense for it. We know very loosely about some of the lands prior to Karasumori, so I'm thinking the same thing, that it was somewhere else and had to get transferred. Still, I'm not so sure if it's a god or a master, or what. Something or someone has to be in charge of it, but Karasumori is quite different than the other lands in many ways, so can we really apply the same rules to it?

Well, even though I've already read this chapter long ago, I still like it XD I can't help it, Souji is just that cool!

[Azamiko]

Did we even get his name in this chapter? And is he really a good guy? I thought they were bad guys in this chapter...

[Twi]

Well he's a bad guy now, but
In some of the later raws he's an ally fighting with them, athough occasionally it seems like he's being mind controlled
Here's proof
http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/4766/14#apicture


Latest raw
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UVX0RS3I

Somebodies about to die, he's pissed

[Azamiko]

Ooh, thanks. I hope he ends up good--I don't like traitors.

[kojika]

I think his status is similar to Gen's and Sen's as they first came in. Though they were working with Yoshi and whatnot, they also had some of their own motives. Now, Gen's were mainly in conjuction with the Yagyou, so it wasn't really bad, but Sen was conspiring a bit, and that could be considered bad, even if nothing really came from it. It seems to be a common thing where the Urukai are involved. But, if you think about how great everyone in that organization gets along, it makes sense.

I think even at this point in the manga though, it's sorta of hinting indirectly that those people might be from Central Intelligence. Yeah, guarenteed, they are almost introduced as bad guys with that whole tenketsu, but at the same time, the fact that it's mentioned earlier in the chapter, it makes me lean towards that. I never really gave it too much thought though. And, I think my medication may be making me think even wonkier (I swear, I'm gonna stop going to the doctor's! They always put me on drugs @_@)

[Azamiko]

*cough* Kojika...I don't mind, but just to remind you, Lainmaa was just warning us about posting spoilers.

Okay, that makes sense...In week-by-week stories--ie, manga--I'm generally a 'wait and see' theorizer. I can predict some things, but it there isn't enough information, I don't worry about it.

I don't think I've had a prescription since my cough about 6 years ago. I stopped taking it after a day, since all it did was knock me out.

[Twi]

Does anyone else wonder what happened to the people in the castle raid arc...with fox women

[kojika]

First off, Azamiko, I can't find anything in my post that was really spoiler. The central intelligence thing was brought up by Sen in chapter 221. I may have missed something, but I've got a lucid mind today since my medicine hasn't kicked in yet. But, anyways, the speculation I put there is based off of that chapter and what's happened, alone.

Does anyone else wonder what happened to the people in the castle raid arc...with fox women

You know, I figure they would have more of a part to play after everything that happened, but yet, they haven't gone back to them. They played up their ending quite a bit, and let them be. Now, it still works as an ending for them, but I was expecting to see some of them reappear again in the manga. The thing is though, what is still alive from Kokoborou is scattered to the far winds, so it's fairly unlikely for them to go back to Karasumori, especially after such a defeat. And, I don't think any of the few remainders would consider working together, unless they get too close to spider woman, than they don't have a choice.

[Azamiko]

I didn't really feel like you gave a spoiler either, kojika, but I just wanted to warn you because I don't want to upset that other girl...(Not that I think she's being unreasonable, but sometimes it's difficult to tell what people will consider a spoiler. Sometimes, if you talk about a theory, if it's obvious enough, others will call it a spoiler.)

I like that they haven't gone back to those people. It kind of keeps off the whole idea of...Well, you know how in a story--be it a tv show, book, or manga--EVERYTHING has to mean something or have a purpose? And in manga or series, characters who are important for a while almost never really disappear or die or whatever. It kind of feels like Kekkaishi was purposefully getting away from that. Those people WERE important, but now they're off doing their own thing. Not EVERYTHING is revolvling around Karasunomori.

I mean, we've seen it with all of the side- and sub-plots, but this was the real proof. This, I think, is the difference in story-telling ability between this mangaka and other ones like Kishimoto and even Anzai. It's not that I don't like them, but their level just isn't the same.

[kojika]

As well thought out as that is, I have a feeling that wasn't really what the mangaka was thiking. Moreso, I just think it's simply that those characters lost their importance in the story, thus they are no longer needed. I'd like to think that Tanabe-sensei is thinking something deeper, but typically, with the way weekly series go, especially when they are in magazines like Shounen Sunday that are aimed at young males, it's usually not the case.

I'll agree though that Tanabe-sensei has a good grasp of storytelling. I didn't start getting into Kekkaishi until more recently, as the art didn't catch my attention early on, and I never bothered to look much into the story. However, when I finally got a chance to do so, the story grabbed me in right away. I actually like the art style now, too, since it's a bit different than the others. The eyes are more almond shaped, the noses are more rounded off...it's hard to explain, but it stands out. Still, the story is very nicely paced, it's easy to predict some things, but than others are so out there, you never see them coming until they happen. I'm actually not that big fond of Kishimoto's works (well, the Naruto brother), I like his brother's works better, lol. But, Anzai-sensei is one of my favorite mangaka, despite the fact that I'll admit, his series have lots of flaws. Compared to alot of the other SS writers, Tanabe-sensei handles the storylines differently, but at the same time, he has a good grasp of what he does, better than so many of the others.

[Lainemaa]

The art in Kekkaishi reminds me quite a lot of Hiromu Arakawa or FMA fame. I like it, which is no big surprise since FMA is my favourite manga. I think the most striking resemblance is that between the character design of Masamori's second, Hatori (?) and Lt. Hawkeye. Am I the only one who sees the remsemblance?

Again, it's not a bad thing at all, especially since the mangas have totally different plots and settings.

*feels like doing a comparative study of the art styles of shounen manga drawn by women*

[kojika]

The art in Kekkaishi reminds me quite a lot of Hiromu Arakawa or FMA fame. I like it, which is no big surprise since FMA is my favourite manga. I think the most striking resemblance is that between the character design of Masamori's second, Hatori (?) and Lt. Hawkeye. Am I the only one who sees the remsemblance?

Again, it's not a bad thing at all, especially since the mangas have totally different plots and settings.

*feels like doing a comparative study of the art styles of shounen manga drawn by women*


Actually, I never really thought about it. They do have a lot of similarites...if nothing else, they are both two of the strongest females in their significat series. I think I had nicknamed her Hawkeye for a while I learned her name, but it wasn't really in depth thought more so I was reading FMA at the time. But, they both are good backings for their said leaders.

I think that would be pretty interesting. I like how blurred the shounen genre has become thanks to so many women getting into it and so many men starting to put more romance into their stories. But still, women mangaka who write shounen are far and few and many use a male pen name. Society still hasn't fully excepted them, but I somehow doubt it will.

[methaniel]

Society doesn't accept female mangaka for shonen? I think nowadays, with all the good shonen being drawn by girls and renown I don't think it's a problem anymore (actually, I don't know a lot of gender of the mangakas unless I read the tankobons with the little omake pages and such...and that doesn't make me avoid any manga because of a gender)

Regarding the art in Kekkaishi...now that you say it it may have a hint of FMA-like in it. Well, I don't realy like the term, but I think the drawing is quite "simplistic" (I can't find a better word, it's excellent, but it's based on not too-complicated traits and such usually, at least for drwing the characters)

[Namikaze_Naruto]

I don't care if the Mangaka is male or female as long as the manga have a good plot/story. I prefer manga's with action and romance.;)

[kojika]

Well, it's not as hard as it used to be, but female mangaka in the shounen genre still get some flack once in a while. It's to be expected though. Up until more recently, the shounen genre was dominated by only males. The same thing can be said for the reverse though, males writing for the shoujo genre. They are both a lot more plentiful than they were, but so many of them are under pen names under the opposite gender.

If you have a better understanding of Japanese names, it's a bit easier to notice. Hiromu Arakawa, as aforementioned, uses a male pen name. And, by using a pen name like Tanabe Yellow, it totally elimates the gender stigmata attached to either gender (since it becomes neutral).

The best example I can give of females in the shounen genre though is Watase Yuu. She wanted to be a shounen mangaka, but she was stuck starting out as a shoujo. Just last year she finally got a contract with a shounen manga magazine (ie, Shounen Sunday), and she, after all of these years, is FINALLY able to put out a shounen. It's a big step for someone in her situation, especially since she became so well known for her shoujo.

I don't believe the gender matters either way, but that sorta thinking will probably be attached to our society for many years to come. It's not something that goes away easy.

[Lainemaa]

I can't think of a single male shoujo mangaka (help?!) but can name half a dozen female shounen mangakas right off the bat. And the there are those who manage to avoid strict genre classifications, like CLAMP. hmmm... I think there'll be enough material for an otaku chat thread.

[kojika]

Lol, well, since I don't read much shoujo, I can't say, but I do know they are out there ^^; Even more so than shounen though, it's still gender dominated.

Hm, this topic would probably be best for more of a general discussion, since it's even gone this far...

[Lainemaa]

I already made a thread in Otaku Chat. Go participate.

[kojika]

I already made a thread in Otaku Chat. Go participate.

Oh, awesome~!

Well, at least we did touch upon Kekkaishi's mangaka, so it wasn't completely off topic. I'm still newer into the series, period, so I didn't know too much about Tanabe-sensei.

[Lainemaa]

Well, I'm relatively new to Kekkaishi too, only finished the chapters on OM just before Xmas. And after that I've been pining for updates.

[kojika]

Well, I'm relatively new to Kekkaishi too, only finished the chapters on OM just before Xmas. And after that I've been pining for updates.

I've had a subscription to the Shounen Sunday for some time now, but since I started so late into it, I never tried reading a lot of the series before. When I was over in Japan this past sumer though, my host mother dragged me to a book store (ironicially enough, the same one I shop at in the US), and they had a sale on manga, so I grabbed the first three volumes (they didn't have four) to read on the plane ride home. Aaaaaand...I got addicted! So, I went and caught up on it and now read it in the SS.

I technically saw the first three episodes of the anime even before that...since they were on my labtop when I was in Japan and my first weekend there they were like "stay at home and rest!" so all I did is go through the little anime that WAS on it at the time. Still, that's all the relatively same timeframe, and the anime was what spurred me into the manga, but it was the manga that really got me hooked.

I got a friend addicted to it during last semester, too. I actually made her a Shikigami plush for xmas, lol. It lives in her car now..XD

[Lainemaa]

If only I knew Japanese...

[Hito]

so these guys are the same person right?
http://www.onemanga.com/Kekkaishi/204/17/
and
http://www.onemanga.com/Kekkaishi/221/17/
top panel

[Lainemaa]

Looks same to me, and wasn't the same, or similar character seen briefly at Guillotine Island? Here. (http://www.onemanga.com/Kekkaishi/217/018/) But there's no way of knowing for sure until the mangaka herself makes it clear.

And as I was looking for the picture of the guy on the island, I noticed something else. Look at the eyes:
http://img42.onemanga.com/mangas/00000037/000129492/17.jpg
http://img42.onemanga.com/mangas/00000037/000089162/003.jpg

[Hito]

hmmm strange, and it looks like the guy with the bowl cut didnt have eyes like that earler

[kojika]

Well, I'm just speculating, but I don;t think it was the same guy on the Guillotine Island, but I'm pretty sure the other two are the same. They have a lot of similarities, but I'm sure that will be something that gets brought up eventually.

His eyes don't really look so "dead" in chp 221 though, if you ask me. Just more blah and unconcerned. *shrugs* I think I over think things too much, lol.

[Lainemaa]

The bowl-cut guys eyes changed at some point. I have this vague impression that it had something to do with his power but I can't remember and don't feel like rereading the whole arc now. Too many other mangas to work through. So somebody else has to check out that one.

If it has something to do with his power, maybe the woman has the same power?

So how would an artist present the difference between eyes that are dead and eyes that are just unconcerned? I'd think that an uniform gray color, with no iris, would make eyes appear more dead than just having them blank. Blank eyes are quite common in manga after all.

[kojika]

So how would an artist present the difference between eyes that are dead and eyes that are just unconcerned? I'd think that an uniform gray color, with no iris, would make eyes appear more dead than just having them blank. Blank eyes are quite common in manga after all.

I think maybe it's my mind as an artist picking it up. It's not so much the eyes that changed as the general expressions and overall reactions of the character. I know not much has been done, but compare the expressions that have been there. In the first appearance, he was just attacking, face covered, only eyes showing, really, nothing showing. And, in 221, not only does he actually show a bit of emotion (albeit awkward). Like I said though, I'm probably just over reading things. It's hard to establish the difference between eyes in manga, especially Shounen. Shoujo have alot more to the eyes to begin with, but Shounen technically have less detailed eyes.

[Azamiko]

It's because of the movement--shounen manga HAS to be simpler. Fighting scenes are confusing enough without trying to keep all that detail...Anyone ever read the manga Dragon Knights? I could never figure out what was going on in those fights...

Kekkaishi not only has different types of fighting, but it also manages to make the style work. (This series is even more simplistic than other shounen titles, mostly because of the traditional outfits. Anzai also does well with simple clothing and designs. Remind me and I'll post the pics of me dressed as Mikagami...O.o If I can find them. They're awful--I'm way to female-looking to dress as a guy.)

[kojika]

It's because of the movement--shounen manga HAS to be simpler. Fighting scenes are confusing enough without trying to keep all that detail...Anyone ever read the manga Dragon Knights? I could never figure out what was going on in those fights...

Kekkaishi not only has different types of fighting, but it also manages to make the style work. (This series is even more simplistic than other shounen titles, mostly because of the traditional outfits. Anzai also does well with simple clothing and designs. Remind me and I'll post the pics of me dressed as Mikagami...O.o If I can find them. They're awful--I'm way to female-looking to dress as a guy.)

Ugh, shoujo battles get pretty bad..but there are plenty of detailed shounen that have understandable fight scenes. So, though that was the original reason, nowadays, it can't really be counted too much, because it's more so the way the artist lays out the fights than the detail on the characters that matters.

Though there is a lot of simplistic style to Kekkaishi, there is also a lot of little details. Like, Yoshi's shoes and his watch. And just because the hakuma and kimono thing looks pretty simple, doesn't make it that way. It would be more simple to stick them in like a tshirt and shorts, lol.

You've gotta show me your Mikagami cosplay! <3

[Azamiko]

Yeah, t-shirts and shorts would be easier, but I don't think they could get away with that. Look at Kingdom Heart, Naruto, or KHR. The clothes have to be interesting and easy to tell apart, as well.

And in Kekkaishi--you won't see his watch or shoes in battle most of the time. And there are solid colors instead of patterns most of the time.

[kojika]

Yeah, t-shirts and shorts would be easier, but I don't think they could get away with that. Look at Kingdom Heart, Naruto, or KHR. The clothes have to be interesting and easy to tell apart, as well.

And in Kekkaishi--you won't see his watch or shoes in battle most of the time. And there are solid colors instead of patterns most of the time.

Lol, I agree, but there are series that have really basic normal looking clothing. The one that comes to mind for me first is Initial D. Maaan, that one took me a while to be able to tell certain characters apart. But, I like that even though the style of clothing in Kekkaishi isn't super fancy, the characters still stand out in them, and they are identifiable without them.

Of course not. Even in detailed clothing, they skimp on details in battles. That's pretty typical of manga. Still, it doesn't mean they aren't there. Because it's not the focus of the scene at that point in time, you pretty much overlook it, even if it was there. So, why bog it down with details?

[Lainemaa]

The lack of details is also because this is a weekly manga. Easier to put more attention to things like eyes and clothing if you have a month to work on a chapter instead of a week. The weeklies with detailed art tend to get messy, but that might be also because of how the scans are cleaned.

At least Yoshi and Tokine change clothes and don't do all their fighting in school uniforms. That kind of laziness really bugs me off.

[kojika]

The lack of details is also because this is a weekly manga. Easier to put more attention to things like eyes and clothing if you have a month to work on a chapter instead of a week. The weeklies with detailed art tend to get messy, but that might be also because of how the scans are cleaned.

At least Yoshi and Tokine change clothes and don't do all their fighting in school uniforms. That kind of laziness really bugs me off.

But, there are still weeklys that have tons of detail. It all depends on what the artist themself can handle X3 Well, I'll tell you this...scanning from weeklys is horrible to clean up! @_@ They are never printed cleanly...and sometimes, they are even crocked.

It gets really annoying when you see characters just wearing the same clothing over and over again, though I do understand why they do it. Still, I like the fact that Kekkaishi is more realistic in that aspect.

[†naafiu]

why is kekkaishi late.....:confused:

[kojika]

why is kekkaishi late.....:confused:

The scanlations of Kekkaishi are not on any set release that I know of. So, you can't really say they are late ^^; Just be glad that someone is scanlating them at all.

[Eternal]

hey, whoever is posting Kekkaishi, why has it not been appearing for such a long time? I've been waiting for it...

[Lainemaa]

OM doesn't scanlate, OM just hosts the manga. Why don't you go ask the scanlators who do this as a hobby, for fun, without getting any compensation and on their free time why they're not doing it fast enough to suit you. Or if you're that impatient you could offer to *gasp* help them.

[kojika]

Give the scanlators a break! Scanlators don't get paid, they volunteer their own time, and they have enough trouble without getting flax from people @_@

So, just be patient and enjoy another series while you wait? ^^;

((sorry, being a scanlator myself, it aggravates me when people don't appreciate just how much work goes into it...makes you much more grateful for the English released manga, too~))

[Twi]

Give the scanlators a break! Scanlators don't get paid, they volunteer their own time, and they have enough trouble without getting flax from people @_@

So, just be patient and enjoy another series while you wait? ^^;

((sorry, being a scanlator myself, it aggravates me when people don't appreciate just how much work goes into it...makes you much more grateful for the English released manga, too~))

Exactly, some people don't understand but those either involved with groups or have been on the forums long enough understand this

[Namikaze_Naruto]

According to this (http://www.raw-paradise.com/) the current chapter is up to 245. Man I hope the upcoming arc is as good as the other arcs. Then again Kekkaishi's plot storyline has been good so far so I hope they keep it up.:thumbup:

[kojika]

According to this (http://www.raw-paradise.com/) the current chapter is up to 245. Man I hope the upcoming arc is as good as the other arcs. Then again Kekkaishi's plot storyline has been good so far so I hope they keep it up.:thumbup:

Yep, that's correct on the releases. So, simply put the scanlations aren't that far behind. Being a weekly though, it's hard to keep up with series like that. Plus, it seems RAWs are hard to get for somepeople (and editors/trasnlators even harder to get and keep!).

Keep looking forward to the upcoming stuff. I'm sure it won't be too far off~!

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Did any of you guys see the anime? It ended with the Kukubokuro arc. Is there a season 2 to it? Also in the anime Tokine also went to Kukubokuro when in the manga she didn't. I didn't really like it when the anime change the plot, Tokine was suppose to have been left behind, Yoshi seems powerful when he alone beat the enemy but with Tokine there it's like theres no improvement of Yoshi at all.

Also In the upcoming arc, I think that Yoshi would be kidnappped by that guy who has the shifty eyes. It seems like they need a strong kekkaishi for their plan to move.

I hope theres another girl to be introduced to be a rival of Tokine for Yoshi's affection, Julia from chapter 148 (http://www.onemanga.com/Kekkaishi/148/03/) didn't realy produce much jealousy from Tokine. Maybe Tokine would really be jealous if it's another Kekkaishi girl. :D

[Lainemaa]

There's no sequel to the anime and I've not heard of any plans about it either. I've never watched it, just went through a lot of screencaps looking for pictures of Kaguro (the results can be seen in my sig thanks to Sage) and that made me happy that I never tried watching it. Seems like some of the cooller stuff was altered in the anime.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

There's no sequel to the anime and I've not heard of any plans about it either. I've never watched it, just went through a lot of screencaps looking for pictures of Kaguro (the results can be seen in my sig thanks to Sage) and that made me happy that I never tried watching it. Seems like some of the cooller stuff was altered in the anime.

WAit I never said that the anime sucked. On the contrary it was one of the best anime produced. I didn't even know that there was a Kekkaishi manga, I became interested when I watched the anime. I recommend that you do watch it though, It's as good as the manga and it's cool to see their Kekkai in action, kinda like 3D special effects and nice to watch in color. Yoshi's kekkai is blue and Tokine's is green.:thumbup:

[Lainemaa]

I'm not much into anime in the first place, I much prefer reading to watching. And since I already know what happens there's even less point in watching it.

[Twi]

The gen thing is cool anime-wise....still depressing though

[kojika]

I was actually pretty happy with the anime. It was one of those few animes that I wasn't too busy picking out what they changed from the manga to the anime to enjoy. And, since that is pretty much the only season planned of being animated, they ended at a nice point, and though they DID rewrite the final Kokuburou arc, it wasn't horribly done. Just that Sen's parts got divided between himself and Tokine. They handled the CG pretty nicely, without overdoing it for the most part. Even though I know CG is necessary, most animation companies don't mix it well with the 2D stuff.

I still prefer the manga, but the anime is a good way to get some people into it. Heck, I got my friend hooked on it that way! She would have just borrowed the manga books I have for it, save for the fact that they are in Japanese, lol. She's started up on the scanlations now, too. (Though the first chapter of the manga she "read" was actually like 224, but that's cause I read it to her, lol.)

[Lainemaa]

There was a new chapter, #222, on mangatrders.com today. It didn't have a credit page so I have no idea who made it. A nice chapter, go download and read.

Interesting new characters appear! One of them might be the "dead eyes" guy but he's from Urakai and apparently has some documents to prove it. Not much happening but lots of talk, some of which didn't make sense to me.

[Azamiko]

Eh? I missed conversation on here...<been out of it

I'm a little bugged that Sen's part was cut, even a little. He's my favorite character, once Gen was killed. Tokine is better than a lot of heroines, but she still isn't high on my list.

[kojika]

Eh? I missed conversation on here...<been out of it

I'm a little bugged that Sen's part was cut, even a little. He's my favorite character, once Gen was killed. Tokine is better than a lot of heroines, but she still isn't high on my list.

I wasn't so big on Sen my first time around, but he grew on me, fast, watching the anime with Komi and then reading some of the same content in the manga for that. He's my number 2~! That WAS Gen's spot, lol. I think he's tied with Yoshi for 3 now, and Souji is 1 XD But, it's really hard for me to pinpoint those characters. All I know is that if I ever cosplayed from Kekkaishi, I'd do Sen cause no need for a wig, plus he's more similar to my body type, lol. But, in general, Kekkaishi has an amazing cast~!

[methaniel]

h, s now the Urukai are sending troops for helping in Karasumori?
Seems like the Calamity is nearing, I still wonder what it is.
And this new character sure is strange. I don't think it is the guy with the dead eyes from before, but the similarity is surely not a hasard...
Ah, just like meep-scans said, I hope the translation will appear soon for the next chapters

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Is Kekkaishi a weekly or monthly manga in japan?

[methaniel]

It's weekly, in the same magasine as Fairy Tail, Kenichi, etc...

[Lainemaa]

Yeah, it's weekly but the scanlations aren't regular so don't expect new updates every week at the same time.

[kojika]

It's a weekly, but it's not in the same magazine as Fairy Tale. It's in the SHounen Sunday, which currently has series like Mixim 11, Arata Kangatari, Meitantei Conan, Combat Butler Hayate, etc etc...they've got a pretty good lineup <3

The scanlations are only like 20 chapters behind, which isn't that bad, considering everything. Most scanlation groups can't even keep up that much. So, though their releases aren't consistant, they aren't at a terrible rate, either.

I've noticed, in general, it seems that a lot of groups using scans from Shounen Sunday have trouble getting RAWs. I mean, before I got my subscription to it and gave Urd-chan my vol to scan, we had the same problems. Which is odd, considering how many big series are in there. But, the groups that have fast releases from it are self-proficient for scans, for the most part. I've never understood that all, since the SS itself isn't that hard to get ahold of, lol.

But, anyways, I love Souji's introduction! And, the fact that Yoshi doesn't totally miss the obvious.

[Lainemaa]

Maybe the trouble with raws is that people in the scanlation business are often young and don't know how to subscribe to foreign magazines or don't have the money to do that. Hard to ask parents money for something like scanlating I suppose. Or people are just too cheap. Which probably goes without saying since so much about scanlating concentrates on how readers want their stuff for free.

[Azamiko]

*cheers* Yay Souji! And this chapter had a good example of one of my favorite things about this manga: Yoshimori isn't an idiot. He accepts help that's offered, and knows his weaknesses. He doesn't go emo about things that could/will probably happen. And he isn't too naive or overly suspicious--so far, at least, he's waiting to see. XD Such a non-typical shoujo hero!

[kojika]

Maybe the trouble with raws is that people in the scanlation business are often young and don't know how to subscribe to foreign magazines or don't have the money to do that. Hard to ask parents money for something like scanlating I suppose. Or people are just too cheap. Which probably goes without saying since so much about scanlating concentrates on how readers want their stuff for free.

Well, they really aren't THAT hard to get. I started getting mine when I was only like, 16 or so (though it was my mother's money, lol). But, I can understand that. Still, there are quite a few older people who do scanlating, and I'm talking college-age. I know most of my staff is late highschool and early college. Though, I'm probably the oldest, save for Urd-chan, and I'm only 21. So, still young XD Yeah, paying for this stuff isn't good unless you get use out of it. I scan Mixim and Arata from the SS, but I read like 7 other series in there, as well.

*cheers* Yay Souji! And this chapter had a good example of one of my favorite things about this manga: Yoshimori isn't an idiot. He accepts help that's offered, and knows his weaknesses. He doesn't go emo about things that could/will probably happen. And he isn't too naive or overly suspicious--so far, at least, he's waiting to see. XD Such a non-typical shoujo hero!

Yoshi has his moments of being "idiotic" but it's never stupidity. He still has a bit of a naive nature, but more so, it's just that he really honestly wants to believe the best of people, especially when he works with them. Now, guarenteed, it's still a guarded trait that he doesn't let through until he is sure he can trust them, but it's not a bad trait to have, and so far, it really hasn't lead to any problems (though I'm sure it will). Lol, well Yoshi is atypical hero in many senses, but I really like it. Btw, Kekkaishi is a Shounen, lol. But, in general, he isn't in the mold for either genre. He is more realistic because he has flaws, he knows his limits, and he struggles to find ways to overcome them. Though he doesn't like being a burden, he isn't afraid to rely on people. He is a strong character in personality and heart, which is a hard thing to muster in characters.

[Lainemaa]

And a new chapter again!

I think I see what you like about Souji, thought it's too early for me to grow attached to him. But I'm interested in what has made him be like he is.

And I wonder just what Sen'll do now that he has heard about Souji possibly being connected to the "enemy". Somehow I don't see Sen giving him much of a chance to prove himself, he's too paranoid and careful for that.

[Hito]

wow new chapter, we're on a role lately, this soouji guy is hard to read, he's so hard to read that if he hadnt shown his technique in this chapter I would think that someone else attacked yoshi when he went to inspect the hole. but wat was the significance of those plants he gave to yoshi's dad?

[Azamiko]

Geh, I mis-spoke! ^^; I do know this series is shounen...Ehehe...

Ah, Souji is really fun!! XD I hope he ends up on Yoshimori's side! (It's difficult to say 'a good guy' in this series, where even family members have their own agendas...)

[kojika]

but wat was the significance of those plants he gave to yoshi's dad?

Nothing in particular. They are a vegetable used in cooking, not common in all parts of Japan. Basically, it's just a souvenir, and obviously, Yoshi's dad is fond of them, lol. I think that's just more so showing just how "well-behaved" Souji is being. It's common in Japan (heck even in the US) when you go to someone's home to bring them a gift. Man, I brought soooo many gifts with me when I went to Japan, lol. But, it's your way of saying "Thanks for putting up with me."

Geh, I mis-spoke! ^^; I do know this series is shounen...Ehehe...

Ah, Souji is really fun!! XD I hope he ends up on Yoshimori's side! (It's difficult to say 'a good guy' in this series, where even family members have their own agendas...)

LOL! I figured as much XD But, you never know~! ^.-

The thing I really liked about Souji first coming in though was the whole fact that he was so blatantly what Yoshi thought he was. He didn't try to hide anything. He honestly upheld the claims. But, I love Souji's whole attitude. He literally does anything Yoshi says @_@ But, I suppose that's from the way he was raised. That's something that I don't even know about yet! I feel sorry for him, but he really amuses me, too..XD

[Azamiko]

*tries not to think yaoi thoughts* Anything Yoshimori says...? Oh man, fangirls could do so much with that...Heck, I almost want to write a fanfic about it...

Seriously, he listens to Yoshimori for now, but I'm assuming that he'd listen to his 'real' master first.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

I'm still sticking to my theory though. That Souji is there not to do something on Karasumori but to capture Yoshimori, as was stated here
http://img42.onemanga.com/mangas/00000037/000129492/17.jpg
They need a Kekkaishi for their plan to move.

[methaniel]

Really good chapter.
So Souji is just a mindless doll obeying orders? We have yet to know the purpose behind it. Actually, I'm a bit spilt behind the idea of him gaining some humanity like it would happen usually in some manga, or him staying like that as the perfect soldier who obeys orders.
But it as really nice of him to offer some thanks to Yoshimori's father.

I agree with you Lai, that Sen will probably grow anxious about the fact that Senji is related to the Shinryuchii hunting, since after all, it's his character, and furthermore, he knows the prophecy...the link may be obvious for him

[Raynarutohokage6]

Hi, i just got here to thank u for the uploading of kekkaishi cause im a fan of it, and i was waiting for those new chapters like crazy, right now naruto and kekkaishi are my favorite mangas for the moment cause it got nice history and good developing.... Just thank u againg and please dont stop posting kekkaishi, a lot of thanks to TANABE YELLOW one of the best writer in this moments keep going man you are one of the best......

[kojika]

*tries not to think yaoi thoughts* Anything Yoshimori says...? Oh man, fangirls could do so much with that...Heck, I almost want to write a fanfic about it...

Seriously, he listens to Yoshimori for now, but I'm assuming that he'd listen to his 'real' master first.

LMAO! I randomly colored some pictures in from later chapters for sigs and whatnot, there have been PLENTY of yaoi comments made. XD And though I'm not into it for this series, I'm ALMOST curious as to what people would do with it, lol.

They might be hinting at Souji being related to the prophecy, it would almost be too obvious though...so, though it may have something to do with it, I doubt it will be as much as we are expecting. Actually, I have a feeling that like so many of the other characters in this series, though Souji is currently on that thin line between good and bad guy, I can almost guarantee that Souji will end up on Yoshi's side. Yoshi has that power over people, lol.

Though, I don't think it will be something easy...especially since both Sen and Yoshi are doubting him right now. And, unlike Yoshi, Sen is even more suspicious of things, so he's harder to get to trust.

[Azamiko]

But at the same time, I rather think that Sen trusts Yoshimori. (Actually, I honestly think that Sen trusts him more than anyone else does.) So, I think that if Yoshimori decided to trust Souji, while Sen wouldn't be happy about it, he would go along with it.

I worry more about personalities than sex, so I'd be entertained by YoSo fics...=D

[methaniel]

Well, I don't think that much Souji is related to the prophecy, his presence here isn't a hasard though. But from Sen's point of view, after learning who he is, and with the suspicions of the rest of the group, I don't think he would trust him that easily.
Actually, even if Yoshimori is becoming less suspicious cause he understood the character "obeying order" of Souji, it's still far from a trusting relation, and somehow I can't imagine him lending his back to Souji unless the situation doesn't have another solution. It doesn't look like a natural team

Ah, but somehow, I don't think Souji would be hard to put in a Yaoi doujin. It's the obeying kind of character (over-obeying) which would do whatever you ask...leading quite easily to a scenario full of *bip* (though, Yoshimori giving orders wouldn't match...)

[winter55]

Hello. First time meeting you guys. Does anyone know why Hiura acts like a very obedient puppet despite being so strong?

[Lainemaa]

Must-stop-thinking-about-yaoi-pairings....

Oh, to hell with it.

I have actually never seen Kekkaishi yaoi fanart or doujinshis. And I actually halfheartedly looked for some a while back. Out of curiosity to what kind of pairings the manga would produce since I couldn't think of any. Neither Yoshi or Gen seemed likely candidates IMO. But I can kind of see SenxSouji. More so than YoshixSouji anyway.

OK, I'm done now. Inner fangirl can rest.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

You want Yaoi?

Madarao x Yoshimori

[Azamiko]

Well, Madarao is openly gay...

Anyway, yaoi Kekkaishi fanfiction:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4640605/1/Give_me_just_one_night

[Lainemaa]

Sheesh, have we hijacked this thread or what? :D

Thanks for the links, I'll look at those. I don't usually read fanfiction, other than doujinshis. I prefer manga to stay manga. You wouldn't happen to know of any Kekkaishi doujinshis (yaoi or not) would you?

Kekkaishi must be one of the very few mangas that you can google without getting any yaoi fanart. ANY.

[Azamiko]

Nope, though Kojika might. I say some of us should make doujinshi and write fanfiction...We could give each other prompts or challenges or something. I can write, but not draw...

Also, I have to say, it doesn't seem to matter that we've hijacked this thread, since we're the only ones here anyway...^^ And we ARE technically staying on topic...

Am I the only one who thinks that YoSen would be kind of cute? ^#^ I just like the way Sen worries about him so much...(And pairing Gen with anyone is depressing at this point.) Though, YoSo would be kinkier...>_>...

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Write a Yaoi fanfic? Are you trying to turn me gay?:eek:

[Azamiko]

Not at all. Hahah!! Sorry, dear, feel free to ignore that part...But if you want to write fanfiction...the fandom sure could use some. I'm not saying it must be yaoi, obviously...Personally, I'm very fond of comedy fics, even though I don't like comedy movies or tv shows much. *shrug*

[Lainemaa]

This discussion made me give in and join one of the Social groups that the forum upgrade brought us. I blame you Azamiko (since I'm too lazy to check who actually started this.)

I can't pair Yoshi with anyone other than Tokine in my head. He's too obviously in love with her and would probably be totally clueless if a guy tried seriously flirting with him.

[Lone_ant]

Lol. Yaoi discussion.. yeah,weirdly enough Kekkeishi doesn't lend itself too easily to Yaoi in spite of the large number of male characters. Or should I find it wierd that I find that itself weird O.o

Anyway New Chap pretty nice, new chars and a more concrete hierarchy of the shrines.
http://www.onemanga.com/Kekkaishi/224/01/

[jakerose20]

Nice info and prob lay some good action in the next chapters , this will get interesting

[Namikaze_Naruto]

New villains. Wonder what kind of abilities to they have?

[methaniel]

lol at this yaoi discussion. Somehow I can perfectly see as a "seme" considering his rather speedy character (not "speedy", but I couldn't fin d an appropriate word), though, him being tamed and turned in a "ume" would be quite good (though, I see no one for doing it)
And indeed, I don't remember seeing any Kekkaishi doujin (I don't look at fan-fics, but strictly manga speaking...damn, it's a blank)

Anyway, regarding the new chapter. Oh, and attack on Karasumori? It was to be half-expected but are those people the one we saw 2-3 chapters earlier (I don't remember properly, but wasn't there a girl in a bed with another guy near her?)
Those little decoys seems strong, furthermore now that Yoshimori still can't agree with the new change in his team...

[kojika]

lol at this yaoi discussion. Somehow I can perfectly see as a "seme" considering his rather speedy character (not "speedy", but I couldn't fin d an appropriate word), though, him being tamed and turned in a "ume" would be quite good (though, I see no one for doing it) And indeed, I don't remember seeing any Kekkaishi doujin (I don't look at fan-fics, but strictly manga speaking...damn, it's a blank)


Lol, though I like yaoi in some cases, not in Kekkaishi, still, I totally see how it works. I know there are some SenGen doujinshi, and some YoshiGen, some YoshiMasamori (eeew), but they are far and few, as we all know it's YoshiTokine <3 In Japan though, the most popular pairing seems to be SenGen (at least from fansites). I'm an artist myself, so I tend to follow several Japanese fansites that specialize in fanart and whatnot. Still, even in Japan yaoi for this series is minimal.

But, back to the series myself now~! I never myself expected it to be anyone we had really seen prior to it, as the story has sorta dwelved itself into a new arc. Yoshi isn't adjusting as quick as necessary, but that just shows that he is a normal human. I'm sure Yoshi will do so in time though, since that's what he's known for.

[Lainemaa]

The mangaka must be proud of herself. A female shounen mangaka with minimal yaoi appeal. That's rare.

[kojika]

The mangaka must be proud of herself. A female shounen mangaka with minimal yaoi appeal. That's rare.

Maybe it's just me, but in general, I see that yaoi is low for Shounen Sunday series. Now, Shounen Jump gets plenty (that's what Naruto, Hunter X Hunter, etc is in), but as far as SS goes, there are few series that really have a yaoi fanbase for it. I suppose it's the readability and the audience. There were actually a couple series in there that had a guy fall in love with another guy (namely, Midori no Hibi and Ai Kora).

But, Yellow Tanabe did a great job with Kekkaishi. For one thing, though there is still a predominantly male cast, you don't find yourself "hating" the females that are thrown in, which is usually the case in series with a more male-dominated cast. The females in Kekkaishi have to be strong due to the fact there are so few of them, lol. Of course, there are moments when you might not jump for joy about them, but you aren't spending all your time trying to find ways to decapitate them or anything, either. I know my friend wasn't totally thrilled with Tokine early on (for the way she treated Yoshi, mainly), but she eventually got to the level even of here where she accepts Tokine.

If you think about it though, some of the best shounen are written by female, but it's because they have to be THAT much better to make an impact~

[Lainemaa]

I agree with you about some of the best shounen being written by women. At least my favourites tend to be. FMA, Nabari no Ou, Tsubasa RC... But all of those are full of shounen-ai potential, if not straight hints of such. But you could be right about the magazine making a difference, Monthly G Fantasy (or whatever the name was exactly) is a shounen mag but it's full of female mangakas and many of the series cater to fangirls. But since I can't keep track of the weekly magazines I can't make an argument about any differences between them.

I wonder if this post makes sense? Time to get some caffeine.

[kojika]

I agree with you about some of the best shounen being written by women. At least my favourites tend to be. FMA, Nabari no Ou, Tsubasa RC... But all of those are full of shounen-ai potential, if not straight hints of such. But you could be right about the magazine making a difference, Monthly G Fantasy (or whatever the name was exactly) is a shounen mag but it's full of female mangakas and many of the series cater to fangirls. But since I can't keep track of the weekly magazines I can't make an argument about any differences between them.

I wonder if this post makes sense? Time to get some caffeine.

Lol, made perfect sense to me, but I'm crazy so that doesn't count for much, lol. I'm pretty sure that the magazine does make a difference though. But, I've noticed in general more shounen by females have shounen-ai possibilities (but mainly cause they have more female fans). Take FMA for example. I do panels for the series at cons and trust me, always more females in the audience. In fact, at least 70% is young female fangirls. Scary! At least they are getting smarter, lol. But that is the main grouping of fans that does stuff like that. It seems that there are more female fans of Kekkaishi (that I know personally, but there are few people who know of this series among people I know until I tell them about it), but they tend to be slightly older, too.

The only reason I have a basic understanding of the magazines though is because I have subscriptions to so many within my family. My little sister used to get Ribon, Nakayoshi, and Ciao (all shoujos aimed at younger girls), my mother gets Shounen Sunday (teen boys), and I get Dengeki MaOh (shounen for videogamers) and Asuka (older teen shoujo). Plus I pick up Wings, Hana to Yume, Shounen Jump, GanGan, and ZeroSum from time to time (depending on content). It took me a while to really understand the audiences, hafta thank my marketing classes for that~.

[methaniel]

Both of your post made sense to me >.>
Regarding teh fan-base of Kekkaishi, I can't really tell...from looking at the stores and such, Kekkaishi seems to be selling fairly well, but I barely never see people reading it, so I have no idea about the gender...

Anyway, the new chapter was mostly centered on Yoshimori denying the help of Souji and of course, it had to come to the time when Gen arrived since it's a bit similar.
Well, it seems that at least Yoshimori knows what's the problem to be dealt with first, and so he's gonna split the job between him and Souji (it's better than nothing...)

Argh, and we still do'nt know who are those two invaders, trying to destroy (not using its power but destroying?) Karasumori

[Azamiko]

Those posts made sense to me, as well. And personally, I'd say, just from looking at this forum, that there are probably more girls than guys reading Kekkaishi. I do, though, have a few guy friends with whom I discuss it on another forum.

I think there are a few different factors as to why there's less yaoi about Kekkaishi than other shounen series, but I think at least one major point is the animation. Naruto sometimes looks really cute; so do Tsuna, Sena, and so on. The animation in Kekkaishi is a bit more realistic and the guys don't look cutesy as often--if at all.

Another major factor is that there's more balance in relationships in this series. Yoshimori doesn't obsess about one character while ignoring everything else. Even Masamori, who could be said to have a minor brother-complex, has a life and other relationships. There's nothing in this series that could bring to mind Naruto's relationship with Sasuke, or Sena's with Shin, or Mukuro's with Tsuna. (I would have mentioned Gokudera's devotion to Tsuna, but I'm a 8059 fan, not a 5927 fan...)

Oh yeah, and I agree with Kojika's friend about Tokine. Actually, I felt that way about everyone surrounding Yoshimori in the beginning. Even though I don't say it, I really like and respect Yoshimori, so I get irritated at how everyone put him down and scolded him earlier on. (>__> I think I might be the only YoshiSen fan in existence. But it's mostly because I like that Sen really does trust Yoshimori.)

Oh, and Laine, what social group were you talking about? It seemed like it might be a shounen-ai one...

[Hito]

lol thier circus seals! i just find that hilarious, but good chapter all in all.

[Azamiko]

>_> Was anyone annoyed at Tokine treating Yoshimori like a jealous child? I like her a lot better than in the beginning, but sometimes she reverts...

[kojika]

>_> Was anyone annoyed at Tokine treating Yoshimori like a jealous child? I like her a lot better than in the beginning, but sometimes she reverts...

Ugh, that got me really irritated! You'd think by now she'd be past this, but she reverted back so quickly! I mean, I understand why she does it a bit, but that doesn't mean I condole it...meh. Well, I suppose that's there to show the conflict in their relationship...

[Lone_ant]

lol thier circus seals! i just find that hilarious, but good chapter all in all.

Huh.. I just realized that now. Haha.. so are these the guys that have been destroying shrines? They seem somewhat foreign to me though.. what with the magic carpets and face cloth, though I might be just imagining things.

[methaniel]

Well, somehow, even if they are talking about destroying Karasumori, I don't think they are the one behind the problem with the other lands (well, they could be related, but for me, they appear to be more some sort of pawns), and anyway, wasn't it said that someone with powers similar to the Kekkaishi was doing this? And there is still the question of why Souji was ordered to help while he should be related to those events...

And personally, I didn't thought Tokine was annoying...well, she went back to her old character that she was always displaying before. It was nice that she was more mature now, but I guess you can't change yourself completly, and Yoshimori's comportement in this situation may have trigger it...and furthermore, she still doesn't know that Yoshimori met Souji before so she can't understand why Yoshimori is like this (so in her point of view, Yoshimori is just acting as a child, just alike the case with Gen...her reaction is childish because of it...)...Erm...I'm starting to confuse myself here, oh well

[Lainemaa]

I didn't find Tokine annoying either. How was she supposed to react when from her point of view Yoshimori's being totally unreasonable? As Meth already pointed out, Yoshi hasn't told Tokine why he doesn't trust Souji. I was more annoyed at Yoshimori not talking to Tokine at all but acting like a macho idiot about the whole thing.


Oh, and Laine, what social group were you talking about? It seemed like it might be a shounen-ai one...

Social Groups made an apperance with the recent forum upgrade. It's just a new feature.

Go to your User CP. On the left under the "Your Control Panel" menu you can see "Social Groups" quite near the top. Click there are you can see all the Social Groups there are so far.

Or you could go straight to the group in question: Yaoi Fangirls and Fanboys (http://forum.onemanga.com/group.php?groupid=8)

[kojika]

I don't think that Tokine is necessarily annoying as an all around character, but I don't like the way she's treating Yoshi, either. I understand that her point of view is lacking quite a bit, but you think she'd know by now that Yoshi doesn't react that negatively without a good reason. Sure, he can be a bit brash at times, but he has grown up a lot. And, she seemed to understand this for the most part. Though, right now that doesn't seem to be the case...

I'm sure we're just over thinking this, lol.

[Azamiko]

I'm not saying that it's not understandable. Like Kojika said, though, that doesn't make it OKAY. We just had a mini-arc where she realized that she has to start trusting him, and then, right away, she doesn't trust him. She's comparing his reaction now to when Gen first showed up, but if it were like that, then why didn't he object to Sen and all of the others? The way she's thinking is unreasonable and illogical, proving--to me at least--that she jumps to conclusions, just like Yoshimori. (And he never acted self-righteous about it.)

I'm not saying I hate her, but I strongly feel that on this occasion she's wrong-headed and hypocritical. And emotive, for that matter. It's a tense situation, and she's right back to treating Yoshimori as a child!

*cough* Can you tell that I don't like how some of the characters don't respect Yoshimori?

[kojika]

*cough* Can you tell that I don't like how some of the characters don't respect Yoshimori?

Lol. I feel the same way you do about that though. I'm not sure what it is about Yoshi, but in general, as a character, he pretty much drags you to his "side" in these situations.

Everything that you aforementioned (and I accidentally deleted when trying to quote this, lol), I fully agree with. That was pretty much my thinking exactly. But, I suppose that it's being done for character development reasons, or even possibly just an oversight, but who knows?

[methaniel]

Aha, each one is thinking then, but I understand your point

New chapter is out at FH
Souji's power is quite high-class. Okay it's just a sword, but in one slash he get rid of that big ennemy, wow.
And so, it seems he's enjoying killing (maybe not enjoying but he's slaughtering a dead ennemy here...)
And the attack on Karasumori began for real now? What is this "marking" the ennemies are talking about? And why is only Yoshimori affected by it while Tokine seems still fine (if she wasn't paralised or whatever by the vision of Souji)

[sbflamez]

that chapter was crazy in itself. i do wonder it only affection yoshi and not others.
maybe it has to due to the fact yoshi is much close to land then anyone else. i mean
he was one the few human that was able to draw power from it. i cant wait until the
next chapter, those.

[Azamiko]

Well, my theory is that Yoshimori is somehow connected to Karasumori. And by that, I don't mean just being one of the guardians. I've wondered if it might be something like Sasami/Tsunami, where he was so close to death that the spirit of the land joined with him. I need to read the beginning again, that part where Tokine saved him from an Ayakashi on the land. I can't remember if we saw how Yoshimori managed not to get hurt after Tokine was.

Another theory is that the land has chosen him somehow, made a conscious decision.

[kojika]

Well, my theory is that Yoshimori is somehow connected to Karasumori. And by that, I don't mean just being one of the guardians. I've wondered if it might be something like Sasami/Tsunami, where he was so close to death that the spirit of the land joined with him. I need to read the beginning again, that part where Tokine saved him from an Ayakashi on the land. I can't remember if we saw how Yoshimori managed not to get hurt after Tokine was.

Another theory is that the land has chosen him somehow, made a conscious decision.

I'm thinking that if Yoshi isn't the new master himself, he's got a strong connection to the master of the land. In a way, I'm hoping it's not him, but I have a feeling he is like the guardian to the master at the very least. Whatever his tie is to it, it's big. It's obvious though (being the type of series this is) that Yoshi will have a big part with the whole Karasumori and be directly linked to it in one way or another.

[winter55]

Chapter 226:

It feels like Yoshimori's zekkai will erupt like the light in the prophecy.
It really looks like the same light made by Yoshi's complete Zekkai.

[Lone_ant]

So.. the god of destruction is Yoshimori O_O

well. heads up below!

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Guy's Im beginning to hate Tokine now.
http://img42.onemanga.com/mangas/00000037/000144072/16.jpg
Why the hell is she blushing?:mad:
http://img42.onemanga.com/mangas/00000037/000144072/18.jpg
She was too preoccupied looking at Hiura that she didn't even notice Yoshimori's condition.:mad:

[ashikabi_sama]

I don't think she was blushing... In my opinion, to me it looks like she was startled or slightly shocked rather than blushing.

I did enjoy it . There was a lot of development throughout the chapter. (Hate the Cliffhanger though)

[kojika]

I don't think she was blushing... In my opinion, to me it looks like she was startled or slightly shocked rather than blushing.

I did enjoy it . There was a lot of development throughout the chapter. (Hate the Cliffhanger though)

If you haven't noticed by now...especially in the later chapters, Kekkaishi has tons of cliff hangers, lol. You sorta get used to it after a while...and the updates on the scanlations are a lot more regular these days. They are still behind the actual releases, but they are no longer like three weeks apart. In fact, the last couple releases were done fairly close together. So, you guys aren't having to wait as long for the chapters now~! So, cliff hangers aren't as terrible as they could be...ahaha XD

[Lainemaa]

It's a weekly, of course there's going to be cliffhangers. It just annoys us when we can't be sure of the next updates.

Poor Tokine seems to be annoying people.

[kojika]

It's a weekly, of course there's going to be cliffhangers. It just annoys us when we can't be sure of the next updates.

Poor Tokine seems to be annoying people.

More so, I meant that Yellow Tanabe is doing it even more so than usual. Of course, there will typically be some kind of cliffhanger at the end of a chapter, but some of the ones in Kekkaishi lately have been almost extreme. Heh ^^; I personally enjoy it though, since it makes me wanna keep reading it...

Aw, poor Tokine! Well, I still like her, despite everything I said earlier, lol.

[winter55]

I have one rant for everyone..... What happened to "ketsu"? It became "kek" Why is that!?

[winter55]

So.. the god of destruction is Yoshimori O_O

well. heads up below!
Um. To anyone who is reading this, I think god of destruction is a bit too much I think.

[kojika]

I have one rant for everyone..... What happened to "ketsu"? It became "kek" Why is that!?

Probably just a typo. I still need to go and actually read the scanlated versions of these past couple chapters myself...but I know with the RAWs, they didn't change any of that stuff. So, don't think too much about it, lol. To error is human, ne?

[winter55]

I won't mind that as long as it will not happen very frequent like in Negima!( the latin trans are kinda off from before)

[kojika]

I won't mind that as long as it will not happen very frequent like in Negima!( the latin trans are kinda off from before)

Sometimes it has to do with the group itself, or just the translation. But, from time to time, the changes made are actually correcting mistakes that were not even known until new releases of information and whatnot. So, don't think too much about it. It probably won't be a common thing in Kekkaishi.

[Azamiko]

*dances* Souji was fun, of course, but I was really happy to see Sen doing something pro-active in this chapter!

And I kind of agree with Namikaze. Not about Tokine blushing--those were shadows under her eyes to show that they were wide, shocked--but about how she was too busy staring at Souji to pay attention to Yoshimori collapsing about 20 ft. away. Heck, NO ONE noticed. -_-; SEN would have noticed, if he'd been there.

[winter55]

Chapter 227 is out! Yeah!
Hiura managed to catch one of the practitioners. I think what the two shadows planted is a gate or a portal to get inside the shrine.

Sometimes it has to do with the group itself, or just the translation. But, from time to time, the changes made are actually correcting mistakes that were not even known until new releases of information and whatnot. So, don't think too much about it. It probably won't be a common thing in Kekkaishi.
Ok. Thanks. Anyways, what mangas are you guys scanning?

[Lainemaa]

I'm annoyed at Souji for stealing Sen's long-awaited chance to kick some *** and show if he's capable of fighting. How dare this newcomer steal the scene from my favourite character like that?! I am irate.

:D

Good chapter otherwise, just didn't like how it ended.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Well it looked like Sen was actually scared of Hiura. And what did those intruders inplant on karasumori? Somehow I'm sensing that Hiura is another Gen, one who attack first ask questions later.

[kojika]

I definitely agree that Souji has many Gen-like qualities to him. I also agree that Sen is a bit wary around him. I won't say I think that he's "scared" of him moreso that he just can't find himself comfortable around him. Sen has a good sense about these things, but he also is the type of character to get a bit too worried about things...

I also was hoping to see more from Sen. I understand why Souji gets all the action right now though, since he's the new character and they are trying to play him up. Plus, it's showing just how "well" he gets along with the other characters already established into the storyline. Every little thing he does is in a sorta pattern...there is tension building, than it drops a bit and he seems a bit more innocence, but then the tension starts to build again. At least, that's what I see, lol.



Ok. Thanks. Anyways, what mangas are you guys scanning?

Lol, I'll keep this part brief. Project Kurai Ryu does a number of things (cause I'm the crazy translator who takes on more than she can), but we are currently best known for: Mixim 11, Arata Kangatari, and MAR Omega.

[winter55]

Oh. I don't read any of those.(I go for the ecchi category type.)
Anyways, what was the reason why weak kekkaishis are used by the woman
who has weird eyes? Whats the connection of that to the story. Also I saw the tenketsu look alike there too beside the dead kekkaishi.

[kojika]

Oh. I don't read any of those.(I go for the ecchi category type.)
Anyways, what was the reason why weak kekkaishis are used by the woman
who has weird eyes? Whats the connection of that to the story. Also I saw the tenketsu look alike there too beside the dead kekkaishi.

At this point in time, where the scanlations are, it's still kinda anybody's guess. It's obviously going to be important, but it's all speculation. But, she needs them for a reason, that much at least is clear. By using weak ones...it's almost as if she's testing something. Instead of going straight ahead with strong ones, it's like she's using the weak ones as guinea pigs. That's just my opinion though.

[winter55]

At this point in time, where the scanlations are, it's still kinda anybody's guess. It's obviously going to be important, but it's all speculation. But, she needs them for a reason, that much at least is clear. By using weak ones...it's almost as if she's testing something. Instead of going straight ahead with strong ones, it's like she's using the weak ones as guinea pigs. That's just my opinion though.
Most probably. She may need them to rip a hole into another dimension or to destroy the insides. I remembered that a kekkai can be used as a bridge or a connection to another dimension so its a possibility.

[.Mich]

Hiura is awesome! But truly, who is him?
He's the one who trying to attack Yoshi right?
And now why he's yoshi's ally Dx

[Twi]

Probably mind controlled or under orders
He seems like he listens to others, rather than his own opinions

[kojika]

Probably mind controlled or under orders
He seems like he listens to others, rather than his own opinions

I definitely don't think it's mind control. I'm thinking the way he was raised entirely was under a position of servitude, thus he really can't think on his own or do anything without express permission. Obviously though, being around Yoshi should help break this pattern a bit, if that's the case. Right now though, he'll let Yoshi and Tokine boss him around as well. He needs to develop more before he can really start making his own decisions. Yoshi will probably be the first person who really gives him the opportunity to do so. Though he does "give orders", he doesn't give them the same way the Urukai does.

[.Mich]

Probably mind controlled or under orders
He seems like he listens to others, rather than his own opinions
I don't think he's mind controlled..... I think he just got orders by someone
Seems hiura rarely... or never do hiw own opinion... he just too shy maybe? :P

[Azamiko]

Ahh, this latest chapter was kinda cute, somehow...Yoshimori was right, Hiura looks pretty innocent at times. (I'm REALLY hoping that he's okay in the end.) And anyone else thinking that Sen's planning to read him? I mean, it was pretty obvious to us readers, but those other guys probably have no idea. Hahaha!

[kojika]

The thing that drew me to Souji was his naivety. He knows little to nothing about the real world, and he's adapting awkwardly, but at least he's adapting. Yoshi's gonna help him with that though, so he's lucky.

Sen still does a lot of his work on his own. It's not that he doesn't trust the others though, I think it's more of a habit. Also, I think he doesn't want to make assumptions without making sure first. He keeps jumping to assumptions, though he is usually right...I think he wants to know everything before going to anyone else that's directly involved.

[Lone_ant]

Hm, Hiura is growing upon me :)

Though who was that girl there, is that the fortune teller/clairvoyant?

[jakerose20]

She appeared before , cant remember which chapter : /

[Twi]

The one with the dead kekkashi in it

[winter55]

So Hiura and Suigetsu are dead people brought back to life hu...........
Well, one thing is solved. Hiura's dead attitude................
Now on to the weird thing put on Karasumori.

[Twi]

You can't take everything said as facts
There's always a deeper meaning

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Well this is for me a boring chapter. No fights or anything, just talk of Sen's gang. I hope there are fight scenes next chapter.

[kojika]

Well this is for me a boring chapter. No fights or anything, just talk of Sen's gang. I hope there are fight scenes next chapter.

Though fight scenes are awesome, chapters with talking in it are just as important. We need details to be able to understand characters and even the fight scenes, lol. But, Kekkaishi does have a lot of fight scenes, so I'm sure there will be one soon.

[Twi]

So we've established he's basically been taught to be a puppet

[winter55]

Ok. Just as I thought.... Hiura is still taking away karasumori.... My theory is there will be two groups that will attack Karasumori. Hiura will be teh god of calamity cuz of that insane power he has and the Karasumori will be wrecked and it will cause Yoshimori to snap. He will then inflate his pathetic quasi zekkai and blow it up to maximum capacity.

[Lone_ant]

Which just really points to my theory that the real god of calamity is Yoshimori.

So, were those two connected with the person that Hiura reports to (the woman fortune teller?)
I wonder how they'll feel finding out about this "betrayal"..

[Thaiane]

So, were those two connected with the person that Hiura reports to (the woman fortune teller?)
I wonder how they'll feel finding out about this "betrayal"..

I think they're probably connected, and I think that eitherr the woman fortune teller works for the other two or the opposite (they both work for her) or course, maybe she doesn't really have anything to do with them, and is sort of in charge of Hiura...
Well, if it was a few chapters back, I would say that Yoshimori wouldn't be surprised at all, but now, after seeing Hiura's "innocence" (so to speak)I believe he'll at least be a little surprised (Not extremely though, considering he knows Hiura would do anything if he was ordered to.)

[Azamiko]

I have a funny scene in my head where Hiura tells Yoshimori point-blank that he's been ordered to kill/capture him and asks if that's BAD. (He seems to have a preoccupation with the ideas of good and bad, no?)

[kojika]

I have a funny scene in my head where Hiura tells Yoshimori point-blank that he's been ordered to kill/capture him and asks if that's BAD. (He seems to have a preoccupation with the ideas of good and bad, no?)

LMAO! Man, I could totally see that! I think Yoshi's reaction would be rather bland back, too. It would sorta be like him having a normal expression on his face and going, "What do you think?"

Actually, if you think about Souji's development, it's like a child. Guaranteed, he might be older, but his development started much like a child...I hate to do this *dies a little on the inside* but the best comparison I can think of is like Kagura from InuYasha...^^; the whole, thrown into the world with no real development prior from what they were told...it's actually become quite a bit more common in manga and animes now.

[Twi]

Except kagura died in the end after falling in love with sesshomaru

[kojika]

Except kagura died in the end after falling in love with sesshomaru

Lol, of course. Well, at this point though, we don't know what's going to happen with Souji per say, but it actually wouldn't be totally unexpected for him to end up "dying" again. He's got a looooong time until any of that kind of stuff happens though.

Please excuse the InuYasha reference. I am the daughter of the infamous Urd-chan from AdInuyasha and she NEVER stops talking about it @_@ (at least I have her talking bout Mixim and Arata right now, since she's my editor on those two, lol).

Well, there are some great Souji scenes coming in the upcoming chapters <3 I can't wait for the scanlators to get closer! They fell behind a bit again, but it's still not bad.

[methaniel]

Oh excellent chapter!
I really like the way the relation between Souji and Yoshimori. Seems like Yoshimori is starting to understand the way Souji was raised, and on the other hand, Yoshimori's words are starting to have impacts in the "beliefs" (if we can say a puppet has belief) of Souji.

And we learned more of his "past" with once again this girl with the cross-eyes appearing again (and I guess she was the one transmitting orders at the end of this chapter)

I didn't really understood what the 2 sisters were doing though, trying to make people having Kekkaishi's power (it was a Zekkai right?)

[winter55]

Oh excellent chapter!
I really like the way the relation between Souji and Yoshimori. Seems like Yoshimori is starting to understand the way Souji was raised, and on the other hand, Yoshimori's words are starting to have impacts in the "beliefs" (if we can say a puppet has belief) of Souji.

And we learned more of his "past" with once again this girl with the cross-eyes appearing again (and I guess she was the one transmitting orders at the end of this chapter)

I didn't really understood what the 2 sisters were doing though, trying to make people having Kekkaishi's power (it was a Zekkai right?)

Not zekkai exactly. I remember Sumiko said to the dragon that kekkai can be manipulated to bend dimensions or something. Zekkai on the other hand destroys everything it touches.

[Twi]

A kekkashi's ability is diffrent from normal barrier users becausethey can manipulate space, however those when you look at it, there are others who can do it. There's a chance that they're ancestors left japan and had desendants elsewhere so it's safe to assume that a kekkashi else where is training new kekkashi

[Lainemaa]

Many of you have probably already heard this but in case someone hasn't:
The official website for Shogakukan's upcoming Monthly Shonen Sunday magazine has announced that Kekkaishi creator Yellow Tanabe will launch a new manga series in Monthly Shonen Sunday's inaugural issue on May 12. The website also announced this week that Blazing Transfer Student creator Kazuhiko Shimamoto and Harunokuni creator Hirō Nakamichi are also creating new manga. The website had previously revealed that Mitsuru Adachi (Touch, H2, Cross Game) will begin serializing in the same issue. Viz Media publishes Kekkaishi in North America.

[Lainemaa]

Many of you have probably already heard this but in case someone hasn't:
The official website for Shogakukan's upcoming Monthly Shonen Sunday magazine has announced that Kekkaishi creator Yellow Tanabe will launch a new manga series in Monthly Shonen Sunday's inaugural issue on May 12. The website also announced this week that Blazing Transfer Student creator Kazuhiko Shimamoto and Harunokuni creator Hirō Nakamichi are also creating new manga. The website had previously revealed that Mitsuru Adachi (Touch, H2, Cross Game) will begin serializing in the same issue. Viz Media publishes Kekkaishi in North America.

Source Anime News Network (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-03-11/kekkaishi-tanabe-to-start-manga-in-shonen-sunday)

[jakerose20]

Wait if he launches a new manga does that mean keikashi reales will suffer from that ore will he be doing both manga at the same time

[Lainemaa]

It's a she actually.

Other mangakas manage two series at the same time. And the other is a monthly. Other than that I suppose we'll see how it goes. And I at least want to read the new one too and hope that somebody picks it up for scanlation.

[jakerose20]

I actually i know it is a woman i was lurking around when you guys where writing about it ( i blame it on the late hour her that i forgot that fact),
I think i am going o read that new manga if it gets some love from a scan group

[Azamiko]

Yeah, my favorite thing about Kekkaishi is the story-telling ability of the mangaka, so I'm rather looking forward to seeing how she'll do on another story. =D

[winter55]

I just want to finish Kekkaishi first before moving on to another.......

[kojika]

I'd really like to read another of her works...I totally agree with Azamiko! I love the way she tells a story. As I've said before, I love not only her story, but the way she captures the characters, too. Even though I might not be fans of all of the characters, there are few that I find myself disliking. Usually, you can find at least a couple redeeming qualities in each, even in the bad guys.

I know of several mangaka that I read right now are doing two manga at the same time right now (heck, Watase Yuu is!), and they all do fine. The one thing you have to realize is that when a mangaka does a manga, they get at least 8+ chapters done before it's even first published. A monthly magazine usually requires more pages but less chapters ahead of time, whereas weekly are shorter, but they require more to be done beforehand. And, depending on the way contracts are handled within the magazines can determine how the manga work is done. The fact that she's taken on this second one means that she can handle it. Chances are, she's far enough ahead in Kekkaishi and has enough done of this new one that she can continue to work at them both at a decent pace and not interfere with the other. Also, mangaka take toooons of notes and write out the stories beforehand (albeit they are subject to change), so there's no real risk of either of them suffering or getting confusing. That's how it's typically done, anyways.

[Azamiko]

Nyah...Kojika, are you reading Bakuman? I love Eiji, but I think his methods would bug you a bit...=b

And I agree about Kekkaishi characters. I may sometimes complain about the way some of them treat Yoshimori, but I can't think of a single one I can't stand at all. And I adore quite a few. (Now I kind of want a Sen icon...*pouts*)

[kojika]

Nyah...Kojika, are you reading Bakuman? I love Eiji, but I think his methods would bug you a bit...=b

And I agree about Kekkaishi characters. I may sometimes complain about the way some of them treat Yoshimori, but I can't think of a single one I can't stand at all. And I adore quite a few. (Now I kind of want a Sen icon...*pouts*)

Lol, actually, it's on my to-read list, though I haven't started yet. I actually planned on starting it later today XD I've almost bought it three times when I see it on the shelf at Sanseido, but I decided to sample it before jumping in. So far, I've really enjoyed every manga I bought (just recently bought RustBlaster, egads is that sad and awesome!), but there's always a chance I'll finally run out of luck with choosing titles, lol.

Most of the Kekkaishi characters I like pretty early on, too. I think I have like three or so siggy's that involve some of my favorite Souji moments. Heck, the one I have on here is one of them, though I had to label it as spoiler since i scanned it in from chapter 240...XD

[Azamiko]

It's fine, but definitely not one I'd buy, even if it weren't available here. For school types, my favorites are Angel Densetsu and Yankee-kun to Megane-chan. You MUST read the former, even though the art is kinda...gritty.

Ah, that's a fun signature...*pouts* I need to find one, but I kind of would prefer making one myself...But I only have paint...>_>

[winter55]

Yay. Chapter 230! Ok, my only thing to say right now is that there is still no hard evidence that Hiura is really connected to the huntings. It's still not clear cuz what the messenger said is kinda incomplete. Well, I'll double check on it for further analysis.

[methaniel]

Ah I had no idea Yellow Tanabe was planning a new serie, I hope there will be scans for it when it's released, I'll look forward to it (even more since it's monthly, the pace is quite different in those usually, so the story may turn out quite good! I have high expectations of it)

Regarding the new chapter...ah...i don't remember it already, blame my hazzy brain.
It was mostly concentrated on Masamori but somehow nothing really strike me as really important. I don't think Masamori on't help his brother (at least not for now), so for me, this chapter is pretty much in the optic of a long shot (having effects only later)

[kojika]

Ah I had no idea Yellow Tanabe was planning a new serie, I hope there will be scans for it when it's released, I'll look forward to it (even more since it's monthly, the pace is quite different in those usually, so the story may turn out quite good! I have high expectations of it)

Regarding the new chapter...ah...i don't remember it already, blame my hazzy brain.
It was mostly concentrated on Masamori but somehow nothing really strike me as really important. I don't think Masamori on't help his brother (at least not for now), so for me, this chapter is pretty much in the optic of a long shot (having effects only later)

Well, being that it's in the monthly Shounen Sunday as opposed to the weekly, it will be slightly harder to get the scans, but it's still not as hard as some other zasshi. Either way, there are lots of us looking forward to it!

I think it was more of a filler chapter, than anything. It mainly filled in some holes in some of the information that we were given, but it was also a way to break up the story more. Well, there are plenty of chapters that have a lot more in it, so it's a nice balance.

[Azamiko]

I wouldn't be so quick to brush off this chapter. There have been a lot of hints since his introduction that Masamori harbors some resentment toward Yoshimori, and Yoshimori openly acknowledges that fact. There was that short arc where it felt like a lot of the tension had cleared up, but this chapter proves that it's still not gone.

Honestly, I'd like to see some volatile confrontation about Masamori's feelings, especially since they've just been brought to the fore again. It wouldn't necessarily have to be between Masamori and Yoshimori. In this chapter, Masamori never denied that he and the Ouga guy are any different in their feelings towards the family heirs, so I think the Ouga guy would do as someone to talk to about it.

Er, if I haven't made it clear, I have some major issues with Masamori. It's clear that he loves his family, but I still can't quite bring myself to trust him. I often feel like he might be willing to sacrifice Yoshimori in order to fulfill his own agenda.

I think I said it before, but this sort of thing is the reason I want SOMEONE to swear loyalty to Yoshimori. And, as far as I've seen, Sen is the only reoccuring character who's proven to have complete trust in him, even when Yoshimori tries to do something outrageous, like when he tried to cast a kekkai on the entire school by himself.

And that is the main reason Sen is pretty much my favorite character. At least, since Gen died...

[kojika]

Well, no matter what you do, when siblings are involved, especially when they are involved in similar fields, there will be tension and rivalry between them. Heck, my older sister and I are both in the same major and graduating at the same time...we are a perfect real life example. So, I guess, to me, it's been something that I always put between siblings in series, regardless of the outward appearance.


I don't think I'll ever like Masamori. There were sometimes when I was cheering him on, but for the most part, I only accept him as a helpful character when it's convenient to him, and he has his own motives (far beyond what we can even imagine). But, I think we, as the audience, aren't supposed to trust him, anyways. If you think about it, Yoshi, the main focus of the series, the one the audience is supposed to relate to most, doesn't even. Thus, his feelings should be transferred onto us. It's a common thing in stories, lol.

I was actually surprised at how quickly Sen adapted to Yoshi, considering he seemed to start off with even more scorn and doubt than Gen. I think though, it was more confusion and sadness than anything, and he found a friend in Yoshi, which was not what he was expecting. Well, even if people don't outright give Yoshi their loyalty, if it came down to it, there are plenty of people who would go to his side over others, including some important players, fufu~!

I keep telling people Souji is my current favorite character, but then Sen goes and does something that makes me love him all over again...!

[Lainemaa]

Masamori doesn't trust Yoshi and vice versa. Typical sibling rivalry. I'm the middle child of three just like Yoshi, I should be able to relate. :P

I don't think that Sen is necessarily unfailingly loyal to Yoshi either. He's just not as openly distrustful as others. Partly because he's naturally suspicious and partly because Yoshi trusts him more than others much of the time.

I'm currently afraid for Sen. I'm scared that he'll try to do something about Souji on his own or get discovered and then hurt.

[kojika]

Masamori doesn't trust Yoshi and vice versa. Typical sibling rivalry. I'm the middle child of three just like Yoshi, I should be able to relate. :P

I don't think that Sen is necessarily unfailingly loyal to Yoshi either. He's just not as openly distrustful as others. Partly because he's naturally suspicious and partly because Yoshi trusts him more than others much of the time.

I'm currently afraid for Sen. I'm scared that he'll try to do something about Souji on his own or get discovered and then hurt.

Lol! I'm a middle child, too. My little sister is actually quite a bit like Yoshi's little brother (my family is all girls). She just kinda sits by and does her own thing, while myself and my older sister overlap in what we do. Gotta love sibling rivalry XD

I wouldn't put it as being "blindly" loyal. Just at this time, Sen has the most to gain by trusting Yoshi and following him. In general, it's the easiest and most beneficial thing to do. Not that I'm saying when the situation changes that Sen will change for sure, but there is that chance.

Ugh, I was always worrying about that. Sen keeps trying to do things on his own. Fortunately, he's not quite as brash as Yoshi, so we have a little less to worry about. I also don't think Souji would outright hurt him, either. Accidentally, maybe, but even then, I think he has more control. Unless Sen totally goes against his orders, Sen should be fine.

[Lainemaa]

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