Bakuman

[Dantrag]

Continue discussing the manga Bakuman in this thread.

The last posts of the previous thread:

But from which Tezka award? We know Eiji made 1st and 2nd place in the first Tezuka award in spring/summer (I just reread it). But Ishizawa had the issue of Dezember in his hands...so he was referring to the second Tezuka award, right?! That means Eiji made 1st and 2nd place in the first Tezuka award and the 1st and 2nd place in the second Tezuka award, too? That would be crazy oO....genius like...lol...

Or was Ishizwa referring to Eiji´s awards/mangas from the first Tezuka award?
But in chapter 9 Hattori´s co-worker says that Eiji still turning good stuff for the Tezuka award..for the second Tezuka award..
And Hattori wants our heros to come over to him to talk about the second Tezuka award. Will they talk about Eiji´s 1st and 2nd place if he indeed won again? It seems so to me :o.

Edit to wanderbar: Eiji won the 1st Tezuka award and came in 2nd place in the readers questionnaire. The co-worker of Hattori says that in chapter 9. And he was indeed referring to the 1st Tezuka award.

OMG I found it out!!!!!

Look at chapter 9 page 4..the drawings of Eiji!! The blond guy and the girl..
And then look at chapter 10 page 14..the same guy and same girl..this is the new stuff Eiji was turning in which the co-worker of Hattori mentioned!!!

That means Eiji really won 1st and 2nd place in the 2. Tezuka award. An indication to that is chapter 9 page 4 the co-worker also says: "People are saying at this rate he will take first prize, second prize, and third prize"...well it seems Eiji took ONLY..1st and 2nd...rofl..genius :eek:

LOL @ Shujin, since Saiko is part of the dream of becoming mangaka. What that guy said pushed him over the edge since they didn't get past the final 8.

Good for Shujin tho, he is already getting the women....

I bet something is gonna happen where Saiko stays and something happens with the 2 girls and it gets back to school and Azuki hears about it.

Good and funny chap all in all

As for the story I wanted to see the look of the art since the story still sounded like a novel than a manga to me. As a manga it seemed more the suspenseful thriller type with hint of sci-fi/supernatural/fantasy cuz like IO couldn't think how a saber would work in to the plot and be really cool at the same time.

Ishizawa can go screw himself. A couple of crappy little shoujo headshots doesn't make you a good manga artist. Any shmuck with a pencil could do that.

Also, anyone else think Iwase's gonna become a major character soon? She's been referenced twice in previouse chapters, and now she's suddenly popping up at Shujin's place.

i think we are going to find out more about her next week, i guess she actually likes shujin. it will be interesting to see what happens, but i want to see them go talk to their editor at jump and see what he has to say.

The old thread (http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=25590)

[hyperb]

when my gf ask me to draw her potrait i try make but .... she lough to me ....
well when i see this manga (bakuma) i feel like i wana try and try and try (heheheh)
(bla bla bla)

[zaisechie]

when i read this manga, i feel like i wanna try to make my own manga more than i do now...hahahah

[Harima_kaimen]

I Feel the same, but Im useless to this kind of things (especially drawing). In my opinion I could come out with a good plot, but I need someone who draw.If not....Light novel!!

[mangagaara]

same hear but i dont know any good artists so i cant be arsed

[Natsu]

when i read this manga, i feel like i wanna try to make my own manga more than i do now...hahahah

When I read Bakuman, I feel like I´ll never make it :( Being a Mangaka is serious business...

[sleepe_lions]

well my drawing are good, not so great, but i suck at making storty line, i try with a buddy and he was good at making story, the only prob is that, i got no time for drawing now and mt buddy is in hies home country. making it a manga is hard work.

[OoOxRuichixOoO]

Read it and for their age that its already great progress just making it at Top 8. That guy who insulted Mashiro's art deserves that punch. Well that punch made Shujin a ladies man lol. He could have said it in a nicer way. If Mashiro works out his problems with his drawings then they can take on Eiji. He has to practice harder this time for Shujin's sake. He got suspended cause of him well he has to repay him right :D ?

So... what other award was there? Ah , yeah the Kodansha Manga Award. Any chance they'll compete for that one?

[Harima_kaimen]

I also think that for being a high schoolers they are awesome. i can think of teenagers doing manga, but of course only in japan...
About Mashiro drawings, in my opinion are perfect and it was very weird that the judges put him such a lower note.

[Ruggia]

... when i read the manga, it gave me an impression that Mshiro's drawing was the one that was better, and i thought the idea was the one that was lacking....

but i guess it turns out that the art is the thing they lack, not the story

[Harima_kaimen]

I thought the same, if there was something wrong, that was the plot. But we never had the opportunity, regardless of the last chapter, to see what was the story behind the manga. The draws were perferct, in addition Shujin was the first to recommend his drawings.

[Ruggia]

I thought the same, if there was something wrong, that was the plot. But we never had the opportunity, regardless of the last chapter, to see what was the story behind the manga. The draws were perferct, in addition Shujin was the first to recommend his drawings.

its a pitty we never really get to see the actual drawing, but i guess that can't be helped...
its kind of like the case of Hikaru no Go.... we just hear that they are good and stuff, but we never actually get to see for our selves....

[Harima_kaimen]

I dont think so, I mean, we saw in the previous chapters some drawings of him and they seem good. I want a whole chapter of bakuman showing the chapter that they made, that it would be interesting...

[wanderbar]

I agree. But that would be a fine balance between main story and then the other presumably more traditional shounen manga. Imagine if the manga within the manga became more popular. On another note, I think it's funny how manga looks like manga in the manga world. I'd figure that it should devolve into something more cartoonish looking to them.

[PiRaTEs LikE Me]

This time, its look like the fall of both of them
For Shujin, even his story is good, his grade dropping & he's suspended from school
Why Mashiro's drawing only get 3?? Didn't he's more better than Shujin?

[Harima_kaimen]

I agree. But that would be a fine balance between main story and then the other presumably more traditional shounen manga. Imagine if the manga within the manga became more popular. On another note, I think it's funny how manga looks like manga in the manga world. I'd figure that it should devolve into something more cartoonish looking to them.

that would be so funny, imagine that, bakuman is cancelled and the manga that the characters made is the new sensation, funnty as hell....

[methaniel]

This time, its look like the fall of both of them
For Shujin, even his story is good, his grade dropping & he's suspended from school
Why Mashiro's drawing only get 3?? Didn't he's more better than Shujin?

Actually, it's not like Shujin cared about dropping a bit (he's "only" the third in the school now), and being suspended made him having more time for writing stories.
After that, Mashiro's drawing were good but not from the level of Shujin's story. We just got the impression that Mashiro was damn good in drawing because he knows more about how to make manga than Shujin, and during their previous work, he knew the flaws of Shujin in his story...but nothing was never said about his drawings being top-class

[Harima_kaimen]

not top-class but the editor of the wjs in the chapter 7 (right?) compliment Mashiro's drawings and in the other hand criticize the story for being too long for a manga (too many words)

[OoOxRuichixOoO]

As an editor he was only there to encourage Mashiro and say his opinions about the manga they submitted but an editor is different from a judge. We haven't seen how much Mashiro really drew. Sure we may have seen his drawing about that guy in his manga holding his sword. But how about the action parts , backgrounds or inking? Since it was a competition the judges have higher criteria.

He said too that it should have been a novel if there were too many dialouges. Thats true lol.

[Noamara]

This week´s Weekly Shonen Jump ranking

[01. Mago 32 （Colo）]
02. One Piece 519
03. Bleach 331
04. Naruto 422
05. KHReborn! 215
06. Gintama 234
07. Toriko 23 （Cover）
08. Kochikame
09. Inumarudashi 10
10. Asklepios 6
11. Eyeshield 21 303
12. To-Love-Ru 122
13. Hunter x Hunter 284
14. Bakuman 11 (Colo)
One Shot von Igarashi Masakuni (?)
15. Sket Dance 62
16. Chagecha 7
17. Neuro 179
18. Psyren 44
19. Bari Haken 31
20. PTF! Jaguar 351

prospect #49:
Cover + Color - One Piece
CPs für Toriko, Kochikame and a One Shot by Sukeno Yoshiaki

No idea where D.Gray-man is this week, they said in the forum... ö_Ö

We have to wait for the sale figures of Bakuman yet...And as you should know the votes of the readers have a 8 week delay to the rankings..to this ranking might be actually for chapter 3 rofl^^..
I just searched a bit and found out that To-Love-Ru has RIDICULOUS awesome sale figures..
To-LOVE-Ru Sells over 1,000,000 Copies
Fri, 2007-06-08 19:28
Tags: News Japan Shueisha
According to Shueisha, with the release of volume 4, the tankoubon sales of Kentaro Yabuki's To-LOVE-Ru (currently serialized in Weekly Jump) has official crossed over the 1,000,000 mark.

Over a year ago crazy^^. I love To-Love-Ru btw. :D

[Ruggia]

@Noamara
do u think u can post this on a separate thread like in Otaku/Anime section?
I think these regular rankings are too good to stay only in Bakuman thread....

i'm amazed that Mago and Asklepios are actually high up... i didn't really see anything special about them,.

[Harima_kaimen]

Bakuman in number 14
Thats lower than in previous chapters
Seems odd to me....

[AlmightyWeird1]

I hope it doesn't tank out and get canceled like Double Arts did.

That would SUCK.

[Mitsu The Black Cypher]

Great chap, the girl thing made me laugh Iwase seems to probably be in love with Takagi since she thinks he's gonna ruin his life by pursuing his dream cuz well she thinks he'll fail at being a mangaka and regret it. She may care more than Miyoshi but Miyoshi may grow to like Takagi just as much.

Mashiro is getting cocky, I dunno if he wants to achieve his dream and get with Azuki or he thinks he's competing with Eiji lol who now seems to be put in this untouchable area of mangakas off of potential.

I think Mashiro's Uncle's editor is just gonna give em a pep talk and keep an eye out for them when they submit more stuff.

[ronnyto]

Yay ! it came out fast this week.

Good chapter..

[johann86]

Mashiro's expression at Takagi's place was priceless. lol

Miyoshi is scary also. lol

[sleepe_lions]

lol mashiro was like im gonna get the hell out of her if these two chiks fight

[wildstriker]

The love triangle issue is over already....?, though we're just getting started. >_>
Oh well, guess like Mashiro, Takagi also chose someone that would support his dream, though I can sorta understand what Iwase trying to say as well, being a mangaka is sorta operate on heavy calculated risk anyway, If anything more, gambling on their career.

The editor-in-chief is menacing like "certain someone" with shinigami eyes in DN, yet to straight forward answer really makes me want to salute him. "Interesting" factor over anything else.

[The Last Sheikah]

The love triangle issue is over already....?, though we're just getting started. >_>
I reckon it's gonna return sometime. They're probably not going to write out an entire character.

Anyway, I haven't noticed anyone mentioning the "1" on the score sheet. Who do you think gave that?

[Hayate-san]

YaY early chap. :D

I liked the comedy in the early half of the chapter it seemed like a nice change of pace to me. And a new character, the chief editor, looks scary lol.

I doubt the love ∆ is gone forever both of the girls still like Takagi.

[methaniel]

Funny chapter!
The romance part at the beginning with the 2 girls was funny thogh now it's clear who's gonna possibly be Shujin's gf in the future (even if for now, he's a beaten husband >.<).
Unlike you Hayate, I think the triangle is now settled, the other girl said a kind of farewell

Oh, and they went to Jump again (yeah, Luffy's bounty in the past ^^). And so, Mashiro is really fired up for doing a serialised serie, that's good (and finally his drawings were complimented (unlike what the *bip* in the previous chapter said)

[Natsu]

Nice chapter :D I think they will try to submit a manga to get published right away and not wait till the next Tezuka award or something.
I really liked the part where Hattori told´em who the judges were, since they´ve all written awesome mangas, which are my favorites:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bakuman/11/14/
Inagaki (Eyeshield 21), Oda (OP), Toriyama (DBZ) and Kishimoto (Naruto)

[Ruggia]

so we actually meet the almighty-editor-in-chief.....
there's no way the mangaka will make any bad comments about him....
the mangaka is pretty much obligated to make him into a great mentor or something.....

[wierd_guy]

I don't think the love triangles done quite yet either. I think Iwase was probably a little hurt and confused about Takagis choices to choose to follow a childish dream (her out look at it) then to concentrate on school and a "normal job". I like Miyoshi better though since she seems like a real spit fire and thats the kind of girl that will be able to support Takagi when hes down. And man if you thought Takagis punch was good check hers out lol.

And although i said i dont think the love triangles over if we take Ch.11 page1 as a hint i dont see Iwase.

And Mashiros determination to get published as soon as possible might also be a downfall...

[Ruggia]

if the love triangle continues, it would be
Iwase trying to convince hime to quit being a mangaka,

and Miyoshi helping him to be one.....

by the way, is Takagi and Miyochi "dating" now?

[methaniel]

I don't think the love triangles done quite yet either. I think Iwase was probably a little hurt and confused about Takagis choices to choose to follow a childish dream (her out look at it) then to concentrate on school and a "normal job". I like Miyoshi better though since she seems like a real spit fire and thats the kind of girl that will be able to support Takagi when hes down. And man if you thought Takagis punch was good check hers out lol.

And although i said i dont think the love triangles over if we take Ch.11 page1 as a hint i dont see Iwase.

And Mashiros determination to get published as soon as possible might also be a downfall...

I as well prefer a gilr like Miyoshi which is full of life unles Takagi who's more a normal high-school girl...At least, she's brining more fun in the story (since Mashiro and...erm...his girl are quite timid)
And yeah, on the cover you only see the 2 couples without Takagi in it, so that's why I also guess it's more or less done (she was here for showing his determination to follow his dream somehow)

And I agree on the fact that Mashiro's determination may be a downfall, he's trying to rush things too much and that may be dangerous (though, for now, it seems it's possible)

[Harima_kaimen]

Ive just finished the last chapter...it was funny and rather good. The begining was soso (Iam not really inerested in the love plot...they screwed up when she said that they will marry when he were a mangaka (?)) but then I like when they went to WSJ...

[Darkmenon]

I as well prefer a gilr like Miyoshi which is full of life unles Takagi who's more a normal high-school girl...At least, she's brining more fun in the story (since Mashiro and...erm...his girl are quite timid)
And yeah, on the cover you only see the 2 couples without Takagi in it, so that's why I also guess it's more or less done (she was here for showing his determination to follow his dream somehow)

And I agree on the fact that Mashiro's determination may be a downfall, he's trying to rush things too much and that may be dangerous (though, for now, it seems it's possible)

I think you want to say Iwase.

But overrall it was a nice chapter. AM really starting to love this manga! :lol:

[mangagaara]

i love this manga ive read the series about 6 times i want to see the next chapter now and i want to see what they do next good chapter

[Noamara]

This chapter is HILARIOUS!!! Obata is really a good artist, the funny faces of Mashiro xD yay^^ lol.
And the fact, that Miyoshi will also attend Yakusa North High is very important to the plot. She will be the liaison girl between Azuki and Mashiro (of course their e-mail thing, too) and also maybe assistant or something like that...not really in the drawings..rather in plot.

Editor-in-chief the editor of Mashiro´s uncle..I guess the next chapter will start exactly from this scene and Mashiro will tell him he is the nephew and saw him at the funeral and so. And then they will get some plus points from the editor-in-chief. What I mean is he probably will support them to make a great manga.

[Shinsou]

It was a very good chapter. Like all of you the beginning part with the love triangle was funny. I don't think that everything is done between the three of them, and there is going to be some problems for all three of them down the road. It looks like Miyoshi is with him right now, but the flashback between him and Iwase reminded me of how Mashiro and Azuki are going to support each while they are trying to reach their dreams. The two girls are very different, but I like them both.

It looks like they are going to try and get serialised soon. I would guess they might run into that Eji kid, and since he wants to be the number one in Jump he is probably going to cause problems for them soon.

[Harima_kaimen]

I didnt understand what serialised is?

[Hayate-san]

I didnt understand what serialised is?

Serialized means that the manga will be published in a magazine and have regular releases in that magazine.

[mucho]

I didnt understand what serialised is?


It meant being publish regularly in a manga magazine. I would give you a brief explaination about manga and magazine (if you already know about it, then just ignore me :D)

One Piece, Bleach, Naruto, etc. are "serialize" in Shounen Jump Magazine, comes out every Friday in Japan (aka weekly magazine)

Claymore, and few other ones are in Jump Square (a monthly magazine), which comes out usually at the first week of a new month, this magazine belongs to Shounen Jump (a sub magazine).

FMA, Soul Eater, Blazer Drive are in Gangan Comics, which is also monthly, comes out at the beginning of each month too.

So basically, there are really just 4 main manga magazine in Japan:
Shōnen Magazine, Shōnen Jump, Gangan Comics and Shōnen Sunday

Check out their release dates, and what manga they "serialize" using wikipedia.

http://community.livejournal.com/weeklyjump
Each magazine ranks their manga, this site post their ranking (only Shounen Jump), take a look around. This site only shows the ranking of the most popular magazine right now, Shounen Jump. One Piece, and Jaguar are always in constant place, second and last, respectively, while others move around. If a manga is at the bottom of the list for a long time (close to Jaguar's spot), then the chance of it being cancell is nearly 100% (a very rush ending would appear like Double Arts, KO Sen, Muddy, Mx0, etc.). It also tells us any "one shots" (1 chapter manga, which is what Bakuman's main characters are making), or new manga to be serialize. The rankings are determined by the editors, but mostly by the readers, who send post-cards to the magazine telling them which ones they like.

Sorry for long post, but this should help you understand about manga a lot more, so you would understand Bakuman even more. Kind of tired, sorry for bad grammar.

[Harima_kaimen]

Thanks hayate and especially mucho for so much information, I didnt really know this.So there are only few magazines in japan, but what about tokiopop? isnt well-know too.
But I have a second doubt...the one-shots where are published? I mean I know that in bakuman they went to WSJ, but isnt WSJ only for popular mangas, so where are all the noobs one-shots..?

[methaniel]

Thanks hayate and especially mucho for so much information, I didnt really know this.So there are only few magazines in japan, but what about tokiopop? isnt well-know too.
But I have a second doubt...the one-shots where are published? I mean I know that in bakuman they went to WSJ, but isnt WSJ only for popular mangas, so where are all the noobs one-shots..?

Tokyopop got barely nothing to do with the magazines of prepublication.
Tokyopop is an edition house (furthmroe an american one, I don't think they exist in Japan), they are releasing the volumes of the manga, that's all (they got the license from the magzines like WSJ and publish it after).
The one-shots are published in the other magazine they are talking about in Bakuman (I keep forgetting the name), and in other magasines from other places

[statcat]

Rejoice my children for I am caught up again/laughed at the brief scuffle...it's like the L and Light fight.

[Sage_Naruto]

good manga different from death note but interesting it has long dialects like death note and it is very well made.

[Treece]

I wonder, how many mangas have been sent to Jump! after this manga...
and by 'Jump! manga', I wonder what do they mean. There are similarities with Naruto, Bleach and One Piece, the three top rated manga
I don't really see how Bakuman and Naruto/Bleach/One Piece are related
I can see how Death Note and Bakuman is related though.
Both have very descriptive bubbles, almost a graphic novel
Both doesn't have 'action' as in fight scenes like Naruto/Bleach/One Piece
Both of them relies on sociology (not psychology) for their progress
Hm...

[mucho]

Thanks hayate and especially mucho for so much information, I didnt really know this.So there are only few magazines in japan, but what about tokiopop? isnt well-know too.
But I have a second doubt...the one-shots where are published? I mean I know that in bakuman they went to WSJ, but isnt WSJ only for popular mangas, so where are all the noobs one-shots..?

No problem. Meth explained it pretty well, but basically, bad one shot don't really get published. And good one would, once in a while, appear in magazine such as WSJ, but no one translate them to English that's all.

http://community.livejournal.com/weeklyjump/105241.html
Like here, Monsters is the new one shot, but no one translated it, so not a lot of ppl knew about it. So overall, if your stuff are good enough, it gets publish into the magazine (example Muddy, it was a one shot a long time ago, after a while, it was serialized b/c it seemed to be pretty popular after the release of the one shot, but due to low popularity a month later, it was axed ... I liked it tho :/ ). And since Bakuman is serialized in WSJ, thus it doesn't want to advertise for the other magazine companies lol


I wonder, how many mangas have been sent to Jump! after this manga...
and by 'Jump! manga', I wonder what do they mean. There are similarities with Naruto, Bleach and One Piece, the three top rated manga
I don't really see how Bakuman and Naruto/Bleach/One Piece are related
I can see how Death Note and Bakuman is related though.
Both have very descriptive bubbles, almost a graphic novel
Both doesn't have 'action' as in fight scenes like Naruto/Bleach/One Piece
Both of them relies on sociology (not psychology) for their progress
Hm...

They were compared b/c they are all in Shounen "Jump" magazine, not in like Shounen Sunday, Shounen Magazine, etc. (read my earlier long post I guess :P). That's the reason why Bakuman is compared with Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, as they are all published/serialized in the same magazine, and not because of their plot or theme or by their genre, Shounen (young boys).

[Treece]

Hm
So Bakuman is not really a 'Jump'-like manga
it's just published in there

[mucho]

I forgot where I read it from, but I heard:
"Jump" = DREAMS + HARDWORK + TEAMWORK
(this is the formula of Jump manga other than love comedies and supernatural comedies)

... Bakuman does have all three, so I guess it is Jump like :P But other than that, Bakuman and Death Note really doesn't have much incommon with other Jump manga. Hope this helps~

[BlueRam1409]

But it may have something to do with what the editor-in-chief said at the end.

"As long as it's interesting, it'll be serialized."

We read Bakuman because it's intresting. It's not a 'classic' Jump Manga but it's interesting. So therefore, it was serialized because it was interesting?

[Our Man Jack]

But it may have something to do with what the editor-in-chief said at the end.

"As long as it's interesting, it'll be serialized."

We read Bakuman because it's intresting. It's not a 'classic' Jump Manga but it's interesting. So therefore, it was serialized because it was interesting?

That might have been what got them to serialize Death Note, but I doubt that the same could be said for Bakuman. If Bakuman had been written by any other team, I doubt WSJ would have even considered it at all. I mean really, how many people here can say that they started reading this series because they thought that a manga about a couple of kids trying to make it big as mangaka would be interesting? I'm willing to bet good money that most people only bothered with the series at all because they heard it was by the same pair that did Death Note.

The people at WSJ knew that since Ohba and Obata came up with this, people would read it. Better that they pick up a series that they know will do well even if it isn't really Jump-like, then let some other magazine like Afternoon or Weekly Shounen Magazine pick it up.

Now, as for the latest chapter, I really liked it. If I were in Shujin's place, I'd probably have chosen Miyoshi too, since she's the kind of girl that I like, but I can't help but feel that she doesn't really go well together with Shujin. Honestly though, I can't say that Iwase is any better, but that might be because we haven't really gotten to know her as a character as much as we have Miyoshi.

I have to say though, I was really surprised when I saw a poster for the new Yu-Gi-Oh! anime there. I guess it should be obviouse, considering that Jump always publishes the Yu-Gi-Oh! manga, but still, isn't the new one still just an anime? Are they gonna make a manga counterpart like they did with GX?

[Hayate-san]

That might have been what got them to serialize Death Note, but I doubt that the same could be said for Bakuman. If Bakuman had been written by any other team, I doubt WSJ would have even considered it at all. I mean really, how many people here can say that they started reading this series because they thought that a manga about a couple of kids trying to make it big as mangaka would be interesting? I'm willing to bet good money that most people only bothered with the series at all because they heard it was by the same pair that did Death Note.

guilty :shame:
i probably would have skipped over this one if it weren't for the authors, but it is pretty interesting now that i am reading it. Of course it would not have been the same manga if someone else made it. (talking about the dialog ect..)

[BlueRam1409]

I heard about Bakuman from my friend and started reading it because it was about becoming manga-ka.

She said Obata-san drew it but I thought that Hotta-san would be the author....

[blackmagister]

I actually didn't start reading Bakuman because the Death Note creator made it. Randomly found it liked it and continued reading. However it's possible that I really liked it because the art style was so similar to Death Note. Though I'd like to think it was because of how unique Bakuman's concept is and the well written story.

[Ruggia]

But it may have something to do with what the editor-in-chief said at the end.

"As long as it's interesting, it'll be serialized."

We read Bakuman because it's intresting. It's not a 'classic' Jump Manga but it's interesting. So therefore, it was serialized because it was interesting?

he says it, but in my opinion, Jump is concerned about making money more than any other manga magazines out there. if Bakuman was not written by mangaka of Death Note, it would never have been serialized. Bakuman was able to get attention and kept going because it was written by the mangaka.

I mean in WSJ, do you ever see a non-Jump type protagonist in a manga that is written by a non-famous mangaka? so far, i've never seen one, unless its an ecchi/romance manga.

Jump is really severe on making their mangakas to stick in the status quo, and if a non-Jump like manga gets serialized in Jump, it hardly ever survives.

i don't know. maybe i'm just biased about jump after the disappointments of them cancelling Double Arts and other good mangas.

[Noamara]

So here is the new ranking of the newest issue of Weekly Shonen Jump

01. One Piece 520 (Cover + Colo)
02. Bleach 332
03. Naruto 423
04. Gintama 235
05. KHReborn! 216
06. Toriko 24
07. Eyeshield 21
08. Mago 33
09. Kochikame (Colo)
10. Bakuman 12
11. D.Gray-man 177
12. Inumarudashi 11
13. Neuro 180
Binbougami (One shot, Colo)
14. HunterxHunter 285
15. Sket Dance 63
16. Asklepios 7
17. Psyren 45
18. ToLOVE-ru 123
19. Chagecha 8
Gouwan Cyborg Tsutomu (One shot)
20. PTF! Jaguar 352

break: Bari Haken

#50: Bakuman Cover and CP I guess, ToLove CP, One shot "Gekidan! Inpurobizêshon" by Asou Shuichi

The interesting thing is now: A poster on 2ch already forecast 1-2 weeks ago the cancelation of Chagecha. In addition it forecast for Bari Haken and To-Love-Ru an end. With Bari Haken I believe him that gladly and To-Love-Ru also is some time in the depths of the ToC and could end because of the current storyline, although it has very good sale figures. I see no reason actually to cancel To-Love-Ru… and why want one Psyren at any price to resume? It has bad sale figures.

[matias067]

Bakuman chapter 12

http://www.mediafire.com/?qddcm0e1yzv

[Maase]

Ahahahah, i loved the fact that they said "Trying to go on Cult manga"

That's exactly what Death Note was about, going on cult, and it got Mainstream.

Maybe it will happen just like Death Note with these authors?

[addiC]

Nice chapter man, at least we know more about shonen manga, i suppose what is been said inside shld be true afterall. And at the previous chapter, i wonder why bakuman is consider as a shonen-manga, this chapter explains it all ^^. Ok, cant wait to see how well those 2 dude will do =D

[Hayate-san]

ugh that story sounded terrible, i would probably be in that 80%

Still that was an interesting chapter. i liked takagi's answers. "... I can't answer that" :lol:

[Mican]

This manga kinda came together for me with this new chapter.

previously, it was a little awkward because they talked about what makes a manga successful and sh.t, and we're reading this manga bakuman that has none of those elements.

but w/ the introduction of the 20% 'rule', I can see how bakuman will continue to be serialized.

[Our Man Jack]

Ya know, for a while, I couldn't help but be curious as to why Bakuman chapters were so much longer then the chapters for Bleach and Naruto, even though it's still a new series. But just now, when I finished reading chapter 12, I noticed that there were only 19 pages, which is pretty much the same as the average Naruto or Bleach chapter. After going back and checking, only chapters 1 and 2 of this series can really be considered "long" by Jump standards, with 58 and 31 pages respectively.

When I thought about it, I realized that the reason why Bakuman's chapters seem so much longer is because there's so much more dialogue and story progression. It's not like the other two, where most chapters are just a bunch of fight scenes with hardly any dialogue at all. This realization makes me like Bakuman all the more.

Now, onto the actual chapter. As I said before, while I personally would have picked Miyoshi over Iwase if I was in Shujin's shoes, I don't think she suits him at all. There simply isn't any chemistry like there is between Saiko and Azuki. These whole random bursts of violence are really turning me off of her character, too. Are they trying to introduce a moe aspect to her character or something? It's just not working for me.

[Mitsu The Black Cypher]

Great chap a lot of info and I liked the look at some of the JUMP-like protagonists even if they were called boring.

I wonder if the DN creators will ever try to do this, a JUMP-like manga but then becomes more in depth and sophisticated like DN. What if that's the whole point of this manga just to set up their next one? so they can get that DN fame again?

I really think the DN creators are bouncing their own ideas off Bakuman fans through Shujin and Saiko to see what they can do next lol. The dating one was okay but the buying minds one was a stretch, it's interesting but a stretch.

I predict at some point something will be an obstacle for Shujin in pursuing to be a mangaka or continue being a mangaka if they already het published/serialized like his parents or something like that and he'll tell Saiko he can't be a mangaka anymore and Saiko will be so mad that they'll fight or something. Ofcourse eventually the obstacle will be overcome and they'll go after it again

[The Last Sheikah]

Some of the series Shujin is suggesting sound more like backdrops than any actual story. I don't see how a story could be fit around buying brains.
And I'm pretty sure the two main characters are based on the mangakas... I wonder if Takeshi Obata got married because of Death Note?

(Expecting somebody with a better source than Wikipedia to tell me he's not married)

[wierd_guy]

I personally think the brain manga sounds cool so I guess I'd be in that 20%. Also about what The Last Sheikah Commented on I would like to know if he's married because of DN to since it does seem to be based on there life as mangakas but you never know it might not have any basis at all on there real lives. I hope somone knows.

[Ruggia]

Some of the series Shujin is suggesting sound more like backdrops than any actual story. I don't see how a story could be fit around buying brains.
And I'm pretty sure the two main characters are based on the mangakas... I wonder if Takeshi Obata got married because of Death Note?

(Expecting somebody with a better source than Wikipedia to tell me he's not married)

if his marriage was based on his success, then he should have got married back when he drew the arts of Hikaru no Go, since that manga was pretty popular.

[The Last Sheikah]

if his marriage was based on his success, then he should have got married back when he drew the arts of Hikaru no Go, since that manga was pretty popular.
Oh, that was before Death Note?

That'll work too, then.

[Bolt.]

I really like Bakuman, but at the same time it is boring me. I don't like characters or the plot, but for some reason it just makes me feel good when I read it. =\

[Natsu]

Bakuman is getting better and better, I just love it :D I don´t know, but somehow I think I would be part of the 20% :P The idea sounds dumb at first, but it could become a good manga imo.
Next time we´re getting color pages, yuhu!!! (for the 4th time already!)

[Bolt.]

Bakuman is getting better and better, I just love it :D I don´t know, but somehow I think I would be part of the 20% :P The idea sounds dumb at first, but it could become a good manga imo.
Next time we´re getting color pages, yuhu!!! (for the 4th time already!)

I like the idea too, if they play their cards right it would be one of my favorites. Its such a fun demonic idea that would be original, thats the kind if manga I am looking for. it would be cool if we could read the Mangas they make. =D

[Ruggia]

Oh, that was before Death Note?

That'll work too, then.

but it was a different pair. the art was same, but story by a different person. so it doesn't really match....
(unless they are talking only about the artist, which would mean that they will be breaking up....)

so i don't think its based on true story.

[blackmagister]

Some of the series Shujin is suggesting sound more like backdrops than any actual story. I don't see how a story could be fit around buying brains.


Well you first need a concept for the story before you can go into the details. You can't make the One Piece story without saying "this is going to be a story about pirates." The more detailed character and story plots will come after the basic concept.

Like this story, it really is gambling at the cult status just like the characters in it since Bakuman is unlike any manga I've heard about. It's school life, but not sports or romance centered. Sports it's based mangas can fall back on stories that already happened to athletes. Bakuman instead shows the untold struggles of manga creators.

[mangagaara]

i think that the auther/artist are like shujin and mashiro in the way they are unlike other manga like death notes light was unlike any other jump lead charicter and that a story like bakuman is not usual to find and i wonder if the auther was told that his wrighting was in a novel style so he changed it a bit. any way i think that this manga is about there lives but with things changed to make it more intresting like marisho asking azuki to marry him ( or that realy happend) and makeing refrance to some today mangas like naruto and some others (sorry about all the spelling mistakes)

[Emperor Time]

I'm starting to think that Shujin will never get married since the love of his life is manga instead.

[Bolt.]

i think that the auther/artist are like shujin and mashiro in the way they are unlike other manga like death notes light was unlike any other jump lead charicter and that a story like bakuman is not usual to find and i wonder if the auther was told that his wrighting was in a novel style so he changed it a bit. any way i think that this manga is about there lives but with things changed to make it more intresting like marisho asking azuki to marry him ( or that realy happend) and makeing refrance to some today mangas like naruto and some others (sorry about all the spelling mistakes)


If it is their story in the manga, with a little bit of extra flare, it would still not be this interesting. Also the whole Naruto being mentioned thing makes me feel like the setting is all over the place.

[mangagaara]

so you think this is unlikely

[ronnyto]

Bakuman is a really good manga.
Both story and drawing are good.
I really love this manga.
The first ten chapters came out kinda late,
but last 2 chapters came out really fast....
ha
:D

[OoOxRuichixOoO]

I know Shujin was cornered there deciding who he'll go out with... I feel that the smart girl also liked him as much as the tomboyish girl did. I have a feeling we'll see her again ;)

Mashiro is dumb for waiting. Success has nothing to do with love. Hopefully he won't do what his uncle did and make a move. You can't keep a woman waiting >:/

Well I'll be part of that 20% ... their ideas where so otherworldly that I'll be sure to be interested. That brain-thing was a bit horrid though >.>

Ya know, for a while, I couldn't help but be curious as to why Bakuman chapters were so much longer then the chapters for Bleach and Naruto, even though it's still a new series. But just now, when I finished reading chapter 12, I noticed that there were only 19 pages, which is pretty much the same as the average Naruto or Bleach chapter. After going back and checking, only chapters 1 and 2 of this series can really be considered "long" by Jump standards, with 58 and 31 pages respectively. .

The first or second chapter of a manga are always longer than the rest,since its an introduction chapter. That's for the weekly ones. If it was a new monthly manga the first chapter would have been usually 100 pages lol.

[mangagaara]

http://www.onemanga.com/Bakuman/1/004/


i wonder who won first was it enji or maybe im reading too much in to it :D

[Sakasa]

Hmm originally I thought Enji might be the to open up the spot for Saiko and Shujin with that little clause where he can pick one and have it removed. But now after that new decision and direction of how they are gonna head I think Enji is going to be a faceless bad guy more then a rival.

@mangagaara That would be a low blow, since Saiko is really good at realistic art, but I could see that it being a Shounen it would go with the genre

[tanwenkeong]

currently dis is d best manga i ever read so far
not cheezy n makes u feel like u wan 2 make a manga:thumbup:

[ronnyto]

currently dis is d best manga i ever read so far
not cheezy n makes u feel like u wan 2 make a manga:thumbup:

Yep, that's ritght..this manga is reall good:thumbup:

[Emperor Time]

So the new chapter comes out tomorrow right?

[Sakasa]

usually it posts up late Sat early Sunday.

[ibn]

a good chapter. it's so strange how i can get into a story about making a manga. but i'm totally obsessed.

but to be honest, i don't think the manga idea about people buying and selling minds is a interesting. though i hope they do well none the less.

[rockstar72]

its actually getting good ;D
Their finally having their first competition.... And to think in 13 chapters a year passed by

[Jack]

I'm still disappointed.

The authors are just cashing in on that 'L-ish Odd' personality + Genius Ability that permeated Death Note.

:<

[wanderbar]

It was nice to see the artwork of the manga they're making. All of Eiji's seem more cartoonish. He's kind of an abstract idea to them now, so I wonder how they'll react when they finally meet him.

[ronnyto]

I think Shujin and Saiko will beat that freak guy, Eijin.
because that editor said"You have to win, you cant lose."

If they lose, Ithe story will be over..

This manga is really interesting.....:thumbup:

Best manga

[Mitsu The Black Cypher]

Wow they kinda did a montage through time to get to the Akamaru deadline

Very good chap, I was gonna say the guys are slacking but Eiji is just a freak of nature with manga. How many one-shots just lying on the ground? and color pages are always a plus. Thing with him he seems to go through his work very quickly as if he doesn't savor each one.

I'm beginning to think the Bakuman manga they will eventually make will be Shujin basing it off of Azuki's and Saiko's relationship with a shounen twist, may even have a character based off of what they know of Eiji as the bad guy.

[The Last Sheikah]

I'm still disappointed.

The authors are just cashing in on that 'L-ish Odd' personality + Genius Ability that permeated Death Note.

:<
Yeah, I'm hoping Eiji is more than an L clone.

I'm trying to work out the maths involved with the voting...
1 in 7 would be the average votes
1 in 5 is what you need to stay in

but 1/5 is more than 1/7, which means that to stay in, you'd need above average votes, which means that there will have to be below average manga to balance it out, which would mean manga series would be cancelled incredibly regularly.

[Maase]

****, i love Eiji, he listening to Crows while grabing the skin from the Crow and writing a Crow.
Just like in Death Note, i'm in the antagonist side, but this time i think the protagonists will win

[syler]

its really great manga. cant wait to read the next chapter.

[Nifichu]

Eiji doesn't particularly stand out to me an an "evil" antagonist at the moment but who knows how much that'll change once the competition actually gets going.

[Silvix615]

What another great chapter. I'm slowly starting to look forward to this manga more than Naruto or any of the other big 3 mangas.

[sbflamez]

wow. i through it was cute when miho got chocolate pencils.

[Omega Ruki-Katiakicz]

Eiji doesn't particularly stand out to me an an "evil" antagonist at the moment but who knows how much that'll change once the competition actually gets going.

I definitely think Eiji is going to try to off Saiko and Shujin. It will be really interesting to see how this comes along, and what happens on the way...

I really like this manga. It's awesome. I'm probably in the minority when I say, I like it more than Death Note. I think it's the characters.. I like them more. My fav being Shujin.. he's just so clever and smart, and cute <_<.

I really just enjoy watching the obstacles... getting their manga serialized, working on it when they aren't going to school, the odds and ends in their relationships. It's really cool how they went from analyzing what's popular to just working on their own, "cultish" ideas.. though I guess they're still kinda doing what's popular, since apparently unpopular = popular, or has the ability to be. Among these, I think one of the best aspects is the whole "going for your dreams", which to me, is the heart of the whole story and really draws me into it.

I really liked it when Shujin said, "I'm not your tool!" So many kids are under pressure under their parents' expectations, they don't stop to think about what that daughter or son could want, and only of their only desires... Also, what Shujin said about how days would pass him by and how he finally felt like he was doing something, this is how I left before leaving my school, 'cos I lived in the future instead of enjoying my actual life. It's very easy to relate to something like that.

This manga is gonna be one awesome ride, and I'm gonna really have fun watching Saiko and Shujin kick Eiji's ***, and go through their downfalls and good times. I really hope their manga gets serialized soon. And it's just cool to see how the world of manga really works.

On one last note.. I can only assume Ohba and Obata have a blast with Saiko and Shujin... and I wonder if the characters in the manga are reflections of themselves, or if they have conversations over the manga and make either Saiko or Shujin say something one of them would say in real life.:D

[kusiobache]

wow ive like this manga since it was first added on OM, and i knew it was good but after this chapter i would have to say this should be up there with OP. i mean just the way the obstacles go. In addition, unlike other mangas where the main characters own, in bakuman they have ups and down. Plus i never saw their mr. Hattory YELLING at them to beat eiji, considering he seems like a really nice guy. Makes you wonder what happened at the selections, maybe they ridiculed hattori or something.

ANd its nice how unlike other mangas instead of just adding suspense, we are learning more, while they are adding suspense. Like how in OP it was just omg what is on their back for like 5 chapters, instead of keeping us wondering if they got in akamaru, we were told they got in, but we are not told why Hattori is insisting they beat eiji, its got a nice balance basically

ps. for those that dont know this manga was released in 2008 so it should have a decent running length left

[ronnyto]

What another great chapter. I'm slowly starting to look forward to this manga more than Naruto or any of the other big 3 mangas.



Yeah me too :thumbup:

[sbflamez]

bakuman, is becoming one of my favorite. it is up there with among the elite to me. like the other posters have said before, this have the great balance with info and cliffhangers. some of the best part of this manga is the interaction with the main characters and the side characters. plus, miho is so adorable. but i have one question those, what is "op"? is that one piece or other posters?

[Restless Imagination]

I'm not really a noob when it comes to manga, since I've known it way back elementary... And I really mean waaayyy back.

However, in a place where this stuff is becoming incredibly famous, but has limited sources, I have only dreamt of reading one good title.

Finding out onemanga, I tried to complete one series, and my choice was Genshiken, since I own a DVD. After reading the last page, I have my dream came true. :)

But now I'd like to continue, however, with no title in mind.

I decided to check the forums and see the titles that most readers/otakus talk about and start from there. This is where Bakuman struck a nerve.
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That portion should've posted in the Newbies thread. But anyway...

As I have mentioned, Bakuman struck a nerve since I'm also a frustrated artist. I'll stick with the title, then I'll go back to this thread to share my mind. Not that anyone would care, but that's what we call fulfillment.

Be back right after I've read chapter 13.

[Emperor Time]

It was a great chapter like always.

[Restless Imagination]

It was a great chapter like always.

Haha! I'm not even through chapter one yet. Be back soon. Give me a day. I'm in the part where Taka was somewhat explaining his thoughts about his uncle and being a mangaka. It was delivered in the most simple way but the message gave such heavy impact.

[Emperor Time]

Which is why I didn't give any spoilers away.

[Restless Imagination]

Which is why I didn't give any spoilers away.

D*mn, I have to break my promise. I have to be back right now since I've read the latest chapter. And you're right, Emperor, 13 is indeed a highlight for the story. Everything's turning good for this duo. I can't wait for the # 14.

Or I could also check on some other titles, while waiting for next week.

Any suggestions? :D

[Jmsn]

I picked this up starting with some later chapters.At first I did not think I would be too interested or care because I generally avoid manga centered around teenage characters unless the manga are really good.But I am surprised once again.This manga is really good.

Its well paced and very informative as well.I like how it addresses the psychology around making a manga .Good chapter!Cant wait till they drop chapter14 !

[methaniel]

Those last chapters were good as well!
Hmuh, so the most important is that they are going to somehow compete against their new ennemy? Honestly I don't think they have the skills for that, there only point is that their stories are more mature, which is not always an advantage...
Though, the romance part is somehow lacking in one of the side, everything is going smoothly for Shujin (who doesn't really care) while barely nothing is happening for...damn forget his name...

[Lainemaa]

Bakuman might just be my favourite weekly shounen. It's smart and actually funny, which only a few shounen manage with any regularity for me. I was amazed when I realized how much time had passed in the storyline, not like a battle that takes a dozen chapters to finish from the more usual shounen.

I'm not sure how much of a "villain" Eiji will turn out to be. So far Bakuman has been pretty realistic, aside from some comedic violence, and a caricaturish "villain" wouldn't fit in.

I haven't read Death Note, so I'm not making any comparisons.

[Oink McOink]

Odd, I just learned what Gravure is last week and and I already read it at Bakuman.. Talk about convenience since I didn't have to ask what it is.meh

And thank god the manga explained what Akamaru is. God, I was totally clueless in what's the difference with shounen and akamaru jump..meh

[OoOxRuichixOoO]

Odd, I just learned what Gravure is last week and and I already read it at Bakuman.. Talk about convenience since I didn't have to ask what it is.meh

You didn't know what a Gravure Idol was? Well.... now you know :P I find it odd that he would talk like that about her. We might learn more in the future chapters ;)

Only Shujin was making progress with romance and they seem ok with each other. Mashiro's not going anywhere with Azuki.

Eiji reminds me of L for some reason :D He's a bit unpleasant though.

[Oink McOink]

You didn't know what a Gravure Idol was? Well.... now you know :P I find it odd that he would talk like that about her. We might learn more in the future chapters ;)

Only Shujin was making progress with romance and they seem ok with each other. Mashiro's not going anywhere with Azuki.

Eiji reminds me of L for some reason :D He's a bit unpleasant though.

Gravure Idol
AV Idol

....am I missing something else?meh Learned what Gravure Idol is because of a Flickr photo of Nanomi Takizawa.meh

Eiji reminds me of Light though, something like acting all crazy and mighty while holding a pen seems like him.meh Except for the sound effects Eiji is making, that's something L might do.meh

[wanderbar]

Wait guys, you think Eiji is highly reminiscent of well established characters in the author's previous work, Death Note? Really? Thanks for pointing that out!

[mangagaara]

enji reminds me of L because there both loners and sit in a chair looking weird :D

[methaniel]

Wow, I really don't see how Enji is alike L, they are like totally different for me, just because they sit in a chair they are alike? Lol (and damn, shouldn't it be time to stop trying to compare this manga to Death Note which is completly different? And anyway, I think Bakuma is actually better than DN so...)

[mangagaara]

im not comparing this to dn(i atualy hate people who do that)im just saying there simalar thats all

[OoOxRuichixOoO]

Wow, I really don't see how Enji is alike L, they are like totally different for me, just because they sit in a chair they are alike? Lol (and damn, shouldn't it be time to stop trying to compare this manga to Death Note which is completly different? And anyway, I think Bakuma is actually better than DN so...)
Wait guys, you think Eiji is highly reminiscent of well established characters in the author's previous work, Death Note? Really? Thanks for pointing that out!

Was only saying that Eiji and L are a bit similar. Since they are eccentric and weird in behavior. I wasn't even comparing the two mangas.

Gravure Idol
AV Idol

....am I missing something else?

2 different things. And thats as much as I'm going to say.

[VLadinho]

I love Bakuman, it's much better than Death Note, although I didn't read the manga Death Note only watched his episodes:P, but Bakuman presents something that is happening in our time not super strong heroes....and if it's going on TV it will become super viewed I can't wait.... Bakuman is the best...maybe they should create more manga like this....so realistic presenting 2 average kids's life:)) Awesome....Bakuman it will be soon better than Naruto...(just kidding:D)

[Oink McOink]

2 different things. And thats as much as I'm going to say.

I know their different..>.> I was asking if there was any other "Idols" besides the two that I'm not aware of..meh

Edit: Oh, I found an interesting tidbit about the gravure coincidence that I encountered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baader-Meinhoff_Phenomenon

[kiri]

Oh yeah, this manga just keeps getting better and better :)

[Ethriost]

"I'll wait forever....."
.... :aww:

The promise has been made, all that's left now is to reach their dreams :D Sweet.

[sbflamez]

"I'll wait forever....."
.... :aww:

The promise has been made, all that's left now is to reach their dreams :D Sweet.


had me crying at the end.

[UsableHero]

I dunno, I just really like this manga for some reason. It's different in the sense, the battles are RL battles for someone that drives down these kids paths. I always go, OHHH another Bakuman. :thumbup:

Doubt the romantic, I'll wait forever, crap. We will see.

[wildstriker]

A girl that will wait forever for a man to come through in RL?, introduce me If such girl really exist in real life... >_>

Heck, most of long distance relationship probably wouldn't even last for a year in RL, let alone "some mere promise"....

[mangagaara]

she said forever awwwwwwwwwwwwww so sweet and i hope they beat enji

[Ethriost]

A girl that will wait forever for a man to come through in RL?, introduce me If such girl really exist in real life... >_>

Heck, most of long distance relationship probably wouldn't even last for a year in RL, let alone "some mere promise"....

:rolleyes: Well, this is a manga, anyway. So let's just be dreaming! :D

[Silvix615]

The end of that chapter took me back to the end of my Jr high days. I wish I asked the girl I liked was she interested. I love how this manga can remind you of your own life. Can't wait for the next one.

[methaniel]

Cheesy but somehow really cute!
Well, even if there was still bits of their works on the manga, the main interest of this chapter ws of course the relation with Mizuki! Hmuh, well...it's a bit strange, but it seems he doesn't have to be afraid of losing her with her moving.
So now, the chapters may be more concentrated on the manga creation part

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

hope he will not be affect by his DNA. What happen to his Uncle will happen to him then that guy happen to be Eiji. then...HHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

[Mitsu The Black Cypher]

Meh liked the beginning but this chap basically focused on the relationship part of the story, not bad tho. Just want to get back to the interesting manga part........

[Noc and NC]

@ Wildstriker- I'd wait forever! For me it's hard to find a guy who'd be so patient >.<!

I liked chapter 14 bunches. It came one before OP! That's very surprising, indeed.

I especially like how realistic Moyoshi is as opposed to Miho. It makes it interesting that their best friends. The manga overall has such an awesome balance between realistic factors and the unrealistic things that make manga what it is.

I think that's what draws me to Bakuman so much, with its ugly looking characters and failures and tests, and the promise of marriage and genius teenagers...it's such wonderful assortment.

Can't wait for next week XD!

[Wio]

The unfortunate reality is that she will not wait forever. She will probably wait less than the amount of time that her mother waited. If Shujin and Saiko do take 5 years to be serialized, he would probably find her dating some other guy. The reality is that she'll get impatient, and even if she doesn't her parents will.

[h1natanarut0]

The unfortunate reality is that she will not wait forever. She will probably wait less than the amount of time that her mother waited. If Shujin and Saiko do take 5 years to be serialized, he would probably find her dating some other guy. The reality is that she'll get impatient, and even if she doesn't her parents will.

Wow that seems very realistic. I'll cry if that really happens =(

Damn there's gonna be drama in this manga =0

[Mitsu The Black Cypher]

The unfortunate reality is that she will not wait forever. She will probably wait less than the amount of time that her mother waited. If Shujin and Saiko do take 5 years to be serialized, he would probably find her dating some other guy. The reality is that she'll get impatient, and even if she doesn't her parents will.
It's possible but why would her parents get impatient if she isn't dating anyone? If they force her to she could do it reluctantly and still be waiting for Saiko. Plus I doubt her parents would intervene since Azuki's mom might have a clue of what's going on.

[Restless Imagination]

It's possible but why would her parents get impatient if she isn't dating anyone? If they force her to she could do it reluctantly and still be waiting for Saiko. Plus I doubt her parents would intervene since Azuki's mom might have a clue of what's going on.

The frustration I've felt for the past week after reading chapter 13 has ended. Thanks to thee, SleepyFans.

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We seldom see manga that revolves around normal people with (somewhat too dramatic but possible) challenges in life that is delivered in a very interesting way. Sad, not all can appreciate its beauty. But I think that's fine, since we are all entitled to our own opinions.

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Anyway, it is true that most long-distance relationship do not last, but that depends with how each party handle things. Parents may be another factor but in this case, Miho won't be pressured by an impatient mother. Remember that Miho's mother is voting for Mashiro (perhaps because of her real feelings for Mashiro's late uncle).

And although promises are sometimes broken, a sincere childish promise is usually the least forgotten (or maybe only in my case, heheh).

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Anyway, I've learned to accept Bakuman as another page-turner and I will still wait week by week for another chapter. Hopefully the mangakas behind this will not tire too soon.

[sbflamez]

bakuman, is need refresher from the big three. i like the way the story is shaping. i do feel that promise is going be broken in some way or form. i wish this would happen in real life, and girl told me she would wait forever, that would be nice. and i don't think the author will get tired of this no time soon. there are many way the story can go and the possibilities are endless.

[Sage_Naruto]

good chapter but the guy is a coward not asking her out at least once.

[SmallWeeWee]

wow.. he stood there four half an hour.. loser much? lol cant even say hi? i wonder why she even like him in the first place, i mean come on now he is so boring. Btw when she move to where ever she is going to she is gona meet a new guy that actually talk and she is gona forget about him lol.

[johann86]

sweet and funny lol.

yeah he is a coward. just making excuses not to date her

[rockstar72]

wow.. he stood there four half an hour.. loser much? lol cant even say hi? i wonder why she even like him in the first place, i mean come on now he is so boring. Btw when she move to where ever she is going to she is gona meet a new guy that actually talk and she is gona forget about him lol.
Its the typical shounen manga rules. Protagonist gets all the chicks without any good explanation :/

[ronnyto]

This is manga is the best...(like One Piece)
Its really interesting that when you finished reading the last chapter.....you feel like you wanna keep reading....:)

this manga is so romantic.......I'll wait forever.........
She's so cute..haha

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[blackmagister]

The romance is decent, but the real reason I'm going to be reading this is the interesting creative battle involving the manga. I mean the relationship is cute, but it seems so unreal that it's hard to care for it.

[PiRaTEs LikE Me]

HAHAHA!!!
What a stupid couple!!
How can Mashiro just standing there for half an hours without doing anything & Miho jsut looking to the sky???
They really are the most not romantical couple I've ever saw

[wierd_guy]

i think its very romantic. saying she'll wait forever yet hardly being able to talk to each other. its as if there romance has a child like inocence to it. I did think it was hilarious how Miho was just gonna walk by hime without saying anything though.

[OoOxRuichixOoO]

Of course a shy couple will just be like that >.> Do you expect them to be so outgoing and straight out with a kiss scene. Its hard to find someone who's patient nowadays so both of them are really lucky. What I want is Mashiro to come in a realization that being serialized has nothing to do with his love for Miho. He should go visit her sometime.

Anyways that was fast...they just graduated. So I guess the story will continue in their high school days huh.

[kiri]

Times goes by fast in that manga... Maybe the high school life would be about 20+ chapters or something.

[PiRaTEs LikE Me]

Well, actually Mashiro was same like me
I'm also very hard to speak to girls but more worse, I can't speak to any girls; either I like her or not

[Treece]

Times goes by fast in that manga... Maybe the high school life would be about 20+ chapters or something.

Yeah, time do travel fast in that manga. Kinda annoying. In less than 20 chapters, they have been accepted.

Just wandering, would this manga increase the manuscripts to manga publishers or lower them?

[WindZard]

The romance is decent, but the real reason I'm going to be reading this is the interesting creative battle involving the manga. I mean the relationship is cute, but it seems so unreal that it's hard to care for it.

I totally agree. For me Bakuman is all about the mental manga battle. The romance is just there for motivational purposes. There is so much more to come between Eiji and the main characters. Even still, the way time is going this manga will wrap up around 60 chapters.

[Emperor Time]

I like this chapter since it means that one of the romances is over in meeting face to face until they finish High School at least.

[WhoamI]

Bakuman is definitely interesting, but it doesn't have the intensity of the story that I expected from the author of Death Note, YET.

For now I'll keep my eyes on how the story develops.

[Mitsu The Black Cypher]

They're probably gonna lose by a slim margin, unfortunately, but it'll build up more for them finally beating Neji.

Just cuz some of the editors think it's good or Hattori thinks it's better isn't much.

Plus I still don't think this is the manga that will take them to the top, they'll have a few more maybe and then create Bakuman. W/e that's gonna be about lol.

[Treece]

Ah, yes
What is Bakuman
As in, why is it called Bakuman?
Don't tell me this is going to be a manga about making a manga that is making a manga

[johann86]

I somehow feel there is gonna be a showdown between the 2 guys against eiji.

mashiro's romance sucks =.=

[addiC]

Cool, a decent chapter...and instead i find mashiro a comedy lol.
Well, certainly this cant be compared to death note, but i wonder how the author will do, perhaps this may just be a short story though.
And i too think that they gona lose, well its always like that in drama, first win den turn out to lose, or lose pathetically and den sudden win back lol.

[WhoamI]

Ah, yes
What is Bakuman
As in, why is it called Bakuman?
Don't tell me this is going to be a manga about making a manga that is making a manga

roughly means Gambling Manga
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakuman

[Treece]

Ah, gambling manga
That makes sense

Ah, I wonder if Neji represents One Piece/Bleach/Naruto kind of mangas
You know, the cliche, action manga
And their manga is mangas like Death Note, Hayate no Gotoku, Mirai Nikki. The unknown, good mangas that only certain 2 out of 10 people reads

[Hayate-san]

hahaha Mashiro fell asleep on the train. That happened to me and i almost missed my stop.

I disagree with some of you. I think that they are going to win thus making them a real threat to eiji. Then there can be a true rivalry between the three of them instead of just having shujin and mashiro aiming to beat him.

[Akagami]

Ah, gambling manga
That makes sense

Ah, I wonder if Neji represents One Piece/Bleach/Naruto kind of mangas
You know, the cliche, action manga
And their manga is mangas like Death Note, Hayate no Gotoku, Mirai Nikki. The unknown, good mangas that only certain 2 out of 10 people reads

You mean Eiji? Well, I really doubt it's like that because it's not like many Jump Manga-ka's to compare theirs to others. Ohba and Obata just probably want to show people the world of the manga-ka and the types of manga-ka rather compare types of series. Oh and those are only unknown to most people outside of Japan. It's probably common knowledge to know those series.

The 2 out of 10 people are more of reviews. If you get 2 out of 10 reviews, then it is good and those 2 people represent the millions of readers. Rather, if you compare it with the rest of japan, it would have to be 25,486,699 out of 127,433,494 (Japans population) people has to like it. Besides, the 2:10 system may only pertain to Jump, not other Magazines.

I don't know about the people reviewing the manga, but It's just a guess.

[Treece]

I'm guessing that it would have to be 2:10 in the reviewers
I'm sure they like ring up someone random or such and ask which did you like best.
But what the editor said about 2/10 people is not like Naruto where everyone will love it
It's more like a hidden manga that only 2 people read it our of 10
Hence, 2 reviewers really loved it out of 10
Hard to explain without being repetitive

[methaniel]

Hmuh, interesting chapter.
Well, the romance was a bit too much present in this chapter imo, but it was cute to see him over-react because she was writing back short messages (lol, I used to types long e-mails sometimes before >.<)
After that, having their editor saying that they have a chance to win already seems to be a bit of a hasty comment, though indeed, everyone aknoledge them as good in the edition house

[Lucis]

You know... isn't what they are using SMS and not e-mail? >.>

[methaniel]

You know... isn't what they are using SMS and not e-mail? >.>

It looks more like SMS to me, but actually, you can also use e-mails with a phone...so since it's said e-mails, I would continue in thinking it's e-mails (though I never heard about a character limit for e-mails...only for SMS)

[Lainemaa]

I translate any e-mail in a manga into text message in my head. Unless they're clearly using computers, not phones. I wonder if the same term applies to both in Japanese?

I liked the chapter. The romance is hilarious. Poor Mashiro angsting over an e-mail and then Azuki answering with a one-liner. :D

[Sakasa]

Good chapter. Can't say I like how things are going because I blantantly didn't know they had contest like entry every month but then since i don't subscribe to jump or actually looked into the magazine type serialzations guess i never would. I just read them before the manager of the book store throws a tantrum and kicks me out XD.

But story progression is getting interesting, and the Miho factor is set solid now because if he has the urge to visit her now he really has to travel, so there is no walk by her house and then flake out.

I hope they do a chapter where both Shujin and Mashiro are in the editor's office during a full publication release that would be really cool, to have a look at how those guys keep stress off, specially on late deadlines.

@Lainemaa I'm not sure if they are actually text messages though they seem not to use phone numbers but actual address like a black berry. But your right she did just laugh at him and then just blunty gave a message. Forget feeling or content!! >:)

[Restless Imagination]

Geez, the week passed by like a breeze with work and all and I never realized that it is already Saturday here. And guess what? Bakuman 15 is out (well, in onemanga.com, that is).

And what can I say? It's like a man thirsting for a week drinking a supply of water that is good for a day? Makes sense? Go figure. Hehe.

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Sorry, I was unable to add it as a quote.
But the one who mentioned that the other side of this manga is about the world and life of a mangaka, including the conflicts and climaxes a mangaka experiences, is just damn plain right.

The love story is included in this manga to give it a sort of "ruffles." This is to create a variety to the story so that it will not end up flat out bland.

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Just something to add before I end my comment, I just realized how it sucks when you just read the latest chapter for the first time, only to find out that people have been talking about it since the day before. :skull:

Hehehe.

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I'll be chatting with you guys again soon. Looking forward for chapter 16 since only then will my thirst for more Bakuman will be quenched (hopefully).

[syler]

nice one! i guess they will not be able to defeat aije..
its to early for them to defeat him.

[Silvix615]

I'm liking the pregrssion of themnaga. I wonder if they won.nI guess we'll find out next week

[Emperor Time]

Well they won if the readership agrees with Hatori that is?

[syler]

sad to say i think they will not win.

[Eiketsu]

It is probably a familiar situation you have nothing to do and you're waiting for your weekly updates so you browse through the mangalist thats when i bumped in Bakuman today and so you see by chance i have a new manga to follow weekly i totally love it (i read the 15 chapters today) its a very funny set up and got to dig the characters and i like the story that is developing very much.
With all that said i can live happy, jk, but seriously i totally dig this manga :thumbup:


Ps When does this manga ussualy update? (GTM time please) well thanks anyways

[Melinda-chan]

It's a weekly manga- at least the chapters are coming out every week so far.

[venchilla96]

I really like this manga, it's realy interesting and inspiring. Im trying to make a manga wiht my friends, but i need a good story line. the writer for this manga is really good

[El_Farmerino]

I translate any e-mail in a manga into text message in my head. Unless they're clearly using computers, not phones. I wonder if the same term applies to both in Japanese?Japanese phones have both e-mail and SMS capabilities, usually. You can use an SMS if you're sending it to someone on the same service provider, but if it's different (e.g. between a Softbank and a Docomo phone) you have to use e-mail. People use e-mail most of the time anyway, because it has a longer character allowance and you can send emoticons, pictures, videos etc.

[PiRaTEs LikE Me]

I :lol: everytime Mashahiro sent 5000 words e-mail & Miho just replied ti back so fast
That was very funny moment! :D

[OoOxRuichixOoO]

At least he has the guts to talk to Miho now! Now I wonder if they really won, Hattori doesn't sound happy saying just that. Guessing the majority of the readers don't think as Hattori is. Its been only the 1st chapter of their manga so the real battle with Eiji just started.

Lol 5000 letters , did she read it that quick then replied with such a short message >.> That brings me back memories :)

[Lainemaa]

Japanese phones have both e-mail and SMS capabilities, usually. You can use an SMS if you're sending it to someone on the same service provider, but if it's different (e.g. between a Softbank and a Docomo phone) you have to use e-mail. People use e-mail most of the time anyway, because it has a longer character allowance and you can send emoticons, pictures, videos etc.

Thanks for the explanation.

[mangagaara]

i have e mail on my phone and i live in england (and my phone is rubish ) so i bet a lot of phones have e mail

[site]

i have e mail on my phone and i live in england (and my phone is rubish ) so i bet a lot of phones have e mail

nope .
American phones are ten years behind other country's

[mangagaara]

seriosly i though it would be the other way round because england isnt that advanced in technolagy but america are :D

[Mitsu The Black Cypher]

nope .
American phones are ten years behind other country's
Umm are you talking about home phones or cell phones?

America basically has focused solely on the latter seeing as they are now basically mini computers in your pocket.

[mangagaara]

i thought we were all talking about mobile/cell phones because in bakuman they were useing mobile/cell phones

[MrHatandClogs]

:thumbup:*Random Guy* I've read countless manga over the last 7 years, or so, and I think Bakuman is the best manga I've ever read. It's so sinceire, like it's really Ohba and Obata's lives. Obata, is amazing, He could put out Manga with no words, and It would be great. His drawing tells the story just as much as the story itself, if not more. I've read all his series',(except the series he actually wrote-Cyborg Jii-chan G) and I'm saying, Takeshi Obata, without even writing the stories, is the best Mangaka ever!!!!! Tsugumi Ohba, is also an excellent writer, I thought Death Note was amazing, but Bakuman seems so real, and it is very inspiring. Just my opinion though-Urahara Out!!:thumbup:

[site]

:thumbup:*Random Guy* I've read countless manga over the last 7 years, or so, and I think Bakuman is the best manga I've ever read. It's so sinceire, like it's really Ohba and Obata's lives. Obata, is amazing, He could put out Manga with no words, and It would be great. His drawing tells the story just as much as the story itself, if not more. I've read all his series',(except the series he actually wrote-Cyborg Jii-chan G) and I'm saying, Takeshi Obata, without even writing the stories, is the best Mangaka ever!!!!! Tsugumi Ohba, is also an excellent writer, I thought Death Note was amazing, but Bakuman seems so real, and it is very inspiring. Just my opinion though-Urahara Out!!:thumbup:

death note... inspiring?!?!?!?!

ROFL xP

[mangagaara]

death note... inspiring?!?!?!?!

ROFL xP

no he said bakuman is so inspiaring :D

[Restless Imagination]

Umm are you talking about home phones or cell phones?

America basically has focused solely on the latter seeing as they are now basically mini computers in your pocket.

There is still no update for Bakuman 16?!?!

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Actually, I think right now, most phones are built with the option to send emails, however, it still should be activated by the network provider being used by the phone owner. One example is the old Sony Ericson T610. It has the option for email. infortunately in my place, none of the big network providers attempted in expanding it's usage. Most people back in my place thinks it's better to use text than email.

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BTW, I'd like to tell everyone addiction is bad. I started reading Death Note 2 days and half ago, and now I'm on chapter 45, an average of 18 chapters in one day. Actually, I only have access to the internet if I'm in my workplace and I only stay in the office for 9 hours. Lunch is deferred, sacrificed. And my job is halted for 15-30 minutes to complete one chapter.

So, my conclusion is, addiction is bad.

Hehe...

[kusiobache]

all i have to say is run from the environmentalists:eek2:

[Akagami]

all i have to say is run from the environmentalists:eek2:

Curse you environmentalists! You and your anti-throwing-manga-into-the-water-for-dramatic-purposes will not be heeded!!!!

Ah, I love this manga as much as King of Bandits Jing and One Piece. The third only manga that has me on the edge of the seat.:D

[sbflamez]

the ending was funny. but, hit the nail in the head again. how life can be unpredictable.

[DragonTrainer]

Yay!

They're going mainstream! ^_^

[Priscilla]

I love this manga so much...
It's quickly become one of my favorites. I like it more than Bleach right now, and even more than Claymore (which was my first manga, and is still my favorite) so that's saying something.
I can't wait till the next chapter comes out DX

[Silvix615]

Another solid chapter. I think they are going to mainstream too early. They probaly going to fail when they realize they can't do that style.

[Path To Darkness]

another great chapter from the genius, but somewhat predictable...

[Mitsu The Black Cypher]

3rd place lmao

Throwing away the two other chaps was messed up. I'd be pissed to find out that some one shot I really liked had 2 other unreleased chaps that the authors threw away smh, but I guess it is their work.

So I'm guessing their mainstream manga will be Bakuman? or will there be more tries and failures.........

[Shaft]

I think Bakuman is going to be their Pen Name.

[Unknown Poet]

Great chapter. I like how it is constantly moving. Unlike some of the popular ones that are stalling for suspens. This one sometimes has a cliff hanger, but it is resolved in the next chapter.

[Unknown Poet]

I think Bakuman is going to be their Pen Name.

no they already picked their pen name its ashirogi muto.

[Shaft]

Well, since only older guys seemed to like their manga, you think they should try Seinen manga?, seems they would do better with that.

[Unknown Poet]

Well, since only older guys seemed to like their manga, you think they should try Seinen manga?, seems they would do better with that.

Well if they wanted a targeted audence, but right now the're trying to get the most votes

[Cornwind Evilman]

Don't throw out your serialized name! That could be worth something someday!

[Natsu]

Great chapter, I somehow knew they would come in 3rd place...

[h1natanarut0]

Damit I have a feeling that Eiji's editor rigged the questionnaires... and why'd they throw away their serialized name?! I have a feeling someone might steal those.

Anyway this manga is great! Getting more and more interesting! I'd rate this manga 100/10

Lol I want to be a mangaka now but I suck and drawing...and writing...and I want to know a girl like Miho but I'm stuck in the U.S. *sigh*

[Ruggia]

Damit I have a feeling that Eiji's editor rigged the questionnaires... and why'd they throw away their serialized name?! I have a feeling someone might steal those.

how? and what use of that?
the names are just extensions of their one-shots in akamaru, so its very obvious who created them