Prince of Tennis II

[Alberio]

Cool, about time this got its second thread too.

Last two posts...

Does anybody know if this is true or not:


According to issue 41 of Shounen Jump (Japanese version), Prince of Tennis will end serialization in issue 52 of Shounen Jump, after eight years of publication.

Hmm, could be if you consider that the Nationals could be the end of the series. Afterward and maybe a few matches for fun along with some comedy and that might actually be true.

But, no I'm not absolutly sure if that is true.

Decided I'd quote the last posts as well, seems like a good idea to me.(xo4 did it first so credit to him if anyone likes it.)

Please continue other discussions as well.:D

[Shuyin]

I seems odd that the rest of the nationals will be wrapped up in 11 chapters.

Well I guess with only three more matches (after the current one) that could be enough.

[Darkreaper70]

yea, Prince of Tennis will end soon this arc i heard

[diopatra]

i am really addicted to this manga/anime. im watching the anime again. i cant get enough of it

this is the anime that i am grinning a lot while im watching it. i love it.

[kakashi1300]

what the? i don't think the last three matches can be compressed in 11 chapters, well unless if tezuka had won, and kaidoh-inui will win, then the yukimura-echizen showdown will be in singles 2, i don't think we can expect a very good ending in the series. we are yet to see the opening of the final door: teni muhou no kiwami.

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

maybe he is on a leave like Hunter X hunter during Noveber

[kusiobache]

wat do u guys think fo 358?

i dont want to spoil it cuz its not on om yet so i wont say anything about it

[animechick2424]

chapter 358 was just added onto OM but it wont show the pics for some reason i reported it hopefully it will be fixed later on so we can see what happens.i just love prince of tennis sorry randomness :p

[who?what?where?]

I'm up to chapter 30 and I gotta say, they do a good job of making tennis look like a life or death sport, rather entertaining... :P

[Alberio]

It gets very interesting if you like how they ake it over dramatized, but once Ryoma (pretty far spoiler) Goes up against Akira things got a little exciting yet too exaggerated at certain points.

I like how whenever something seems repititive the author throws in an occasional difference for us.

[who?what?where?]

Yea, I think the author would need to throw in a few interesting new things here and there, after all, tennis is tennis, and it could get pretty old after a while :P

[wildstriker]

i feel sorry for Inui on the latest chapter, but guess that's what Kirihara always do...., poor him, guess this D2 victory will go to Rikkai as well.

[diopatra]

is it just me, because i think i've seen a post on the main site a new manga scan and it was removed. havent read it yet

[diopatra]

geez ive read the new chapter and, its always bloody match whenever kirihara is in the court. i think inui and kaidoh lose because of what kirahara did to inui.

so the golden pair is next.

[wildstriker]

S2 first..., and most probably Fuji.

[Shuyin]

I think Inui and Kaidou are going to win for sure now. They're down 5-1 and Inui has just 'finished' his data. They're probably going to catch up by some sort of luck.

Was Kaidou about to go oni? That would have been sweet. Too bad Inui stopped him. =(

[diopatra]

but inui have no strength at all even if data has been collected.

[wildstriker]

Even If he did, Renji wouldn't let him have 5 straight sets, and there's Kirihara there as well.

[kakashi1300]

i think the match has already ended, remember we only have 11 more chapters to cover the last 3 matches. i'm afraid pot might end tragically (like seigaku losing in singles 2)

[diopatra]

^ dont say that.

[wildstriker]

hah..., the 11 more chapters left info is BS.

[mizu-genkaku]

wahh..he'll end it in 11 chapters!?!?! that suuuccckkkssss..it so would not fit....waiii..craaap..i hope it doesn't cuz if that was the case there may be bunches of unsolved problems/mysteries kind of thinggies..

[wildstriker]

Well, newest chapter's out, and seems that D2 won by Rikkai as well due to Inui unability to continue the match..., which means that all 3 next victory will belong to Seigaku in order to win the national.

Fuji up next as predicted, facing Nioh in S2 (time to show off my avatar :D ), kinda stupid chapter in the beginning w/ Inui's dream, but Fuji leading with 2 - 0 at the moment.

[Rawr]

Ahh, it's always so fun watching Fuji's matches, next chapter seems promising

[Shuyin]

The dream had me so confused at first. I seriously checked back a chapter to make sure I wasn't missing anything.

I think the dream was an interesting twist.

[kakashi1300]

from what i have noticed the chapter seems like it's being rushed, without me noticing that i'm already reading singles 2 before i even knew fuji was already on the court. pacing like that makes me really believe pot will end soon, with singles 2 ending next chapter perhaps. but then excellent performance for fuji. he might eat niou alive there as revenge for kaidoh-inui. can't wait to see the new final counter.

[wildstriker]

Well, Fuji and Sanada might be the actually best player around w/o the cheap Muga element, so it's likely for him to do something devastable later, I'd want to see Nioh to return all his existing counter and use some interesting moves b/f his loss though. At least he's not to lose easily after taking Kirihara & Renji spot for Single matches (which seems to be unforseenable to some fans, but he's indeed better than Kirihara anyway).

[Shuyin]

I want Fuji to dominate. I want him to show that Seigaku isn't messing around either. Rikkai destroyed them in the last match, they need a breath of fresh air.

[diopatra]

so fuji losing to nioh is just inoui's dream. its i like im the who's having a nightmare, seeing fuji on very difficult state. good thing its just a dream.

[wildstriker]

New chapter's out, and..., well, seems that Nioh's actually able to use Muga no Kyochi too, even copied Tezuka Zone and Zero-Shiki Drop Shot, on top of that, returning all 3 Fuji evolved counter.

Somehow, I'm at loss of word for Nioh coolness in this battle, guess that Konomi never fail to have some suprise in stock..., currently Fuji's leading with 3 - 1, but Nioh have begin his counterattack as well.

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

The sixth counter is shown in the next chapter along with dragonfly evolve

[qwerty28]

aw is that really happens in the next chapter??

[wildstriker]

???, sixth counter?, not even mentioned anywhere in this latest chapter, it's basically Nioh showing off his ability.

[diopatra]

its been a frustration for fuji to defeat tezuka. i think since nioh playing like tezuka, fuji will release all his frustrations on this game. fuji will have this match for sure

[wildstriker]

If Fuji didn't win this, Seigaku will automatically lost, so yeah, it's definitely their victory for 3 match ahead.

[Seraphimaurion]

But who said Seigaku really has to win, He might try to extend the story another year

[wildstriker]

In next year, all that's left would be Momo, Kaidoh, & Ryoma for Seigaku, not to mention, bunches of players from other school weaker than them.
That said, IMO I'd be kinda boring If the focus is about Ryoma again since the only player that can compete against him equally would only be Kintarou from Sh*tenhouji.

[Death-note-user]

seem cool

[mizu-genkaku]

yeaah... i agree with wildstriker...it would be stupid to extend it to their next year...it will sooo suck..

[Leehar]

When will they put up chapters past 158. I just started the manga 2 days ago and now I'm stuck because we don't have any more chapters

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

aw is that really happens in the next chapter??

no just a predition after all it is Fuji final battle.I also think a sixth will come out since the fifth is not the final anymore

[Alberio]

Sounds about right, since its the nationals and it isn't the last.

So does anybody think Ryoma might actually win not being the underdog but on equal terms with his opponent...probably not though?

[Leehar]

When will they put up chapters past 158. I just started the manga 2 days ago and now I'm stuck because we don't have any more chapters

Cancel that, They've put it up now:thumbup: I'll just finish til
209 today then wait for the next batch of uploads

[Shuyin]

Did the newest chapter come out last week....?

[gr1mmy]

There's no chapter this week unfortunately...

[wildstriker]

Yeah..., it's already stated in chapter 260, hopefully it'll be back by next week. the author really taking a bad time for break >< (right after that intense chapter).

[gr1mmy]

It's to get people worked up XD

[Leehar]

Finally finished the 150 chapters to 360
Now just have to wait for the next chap. to be released

[orange.neko]

hmm... does anyone know the main and ending theme songs for the anime... cause I can't find the list anywhere~!!

[kakashi1300]

as far as i know the score's still 3-0 with the 4th game in 30-0. well i'm just hoping fuji will not get involved in this muga stuff and finish the game as he is.

[diopatra]

for one thing, ryoma is in japan for a vacation. i think he decided to stay in america to be professional tennis player. so, the story to be extended is not agreeable

[orange.neko]

is he on holidays? but isn't he already in japan for like half a year?

[wildstriker]

Er..., Ryoma isn't in Japan for vacation, that far I'm sure of it.
Hence, you don't transfer school just for "vacation" right?, besides, there's legal law for it, and If I'm not mistaken, Japan's limit is 5 weeks.

[gr1mmy]

Didn't he just go to the US to play in the open?

[wildstriker]

That's according to anime (crappy) filler story, and it's even make the story more laughable by having Ryoma playing in US open (and win).

In the manga he have never left Japan ever since he arrived in first chapter.

BTW, new chapter out, Nioh can do Tezuka Phantom as well, and it put up a little bit about Fuji past with Tezuka.

[diopatra]

okay im a bit confused on the latest chapter. tezuka and fuji had a match on the ranking tournament and tezuka won. why on this chapter they talk as if the last time they had a match was two years ago, and not the last ranking tournament?

[wildstriker]

???, Because they never had a match in ranking tournament before, I don't even remember any referance to it so far in the manga.

[diopatra]

maybe im refering to the anime. geez im really confused now. the last raniking tournament to determine who will play on the nationals, tezuka and fuji had a match and tezuka won. that also the first time it was revealed that they had a match two years ago where fuji won against tezuka with a big margin.

[wildstriker]

OK, Just to make it clear, Anime diverge totally from manga after the first Seigaku vs Hyotei match, I repeat, Anime DIVERGED from manga totally after first Seigaku vs Hyotei match, so all events that take place in anime is NON-CANON after the 1st Seigaku vs Hyotei match, and it doesn't happen AT ALL in the manga.

Hope this will make it clear to not take any anime fillers into manga account, for those who've just following the anime, I'd suggest begin reading all over again from Seigaku vs Midoriyama in Kanto tournament.

[diopatra]

maybe i'll do that then, sorry for the confusion.

[kakashi1300]

well the anime did divert except for the seigaku-rokkaku and seigaku-rikkaidai matches (the finals has its differences, though, but still t'was the two teams that played). there was no jyousei-shounan for the qfinals, instead it was midoriyama. and a lot more.

btw the manga is officially showing the fuji-tezuka match that the anime has featured during their freshmen years. so it won't actually be a surprise that the reason why tezuka lost is because of his arm freshly hit that day.

[diopatra]

i started reading the manga all over again. now im seeing the difference of it to that of anime.

[wildstriker]

Seigaku - Rokkakau Difference being It was Ryoma who played Aoi (anime) rather than Kaidoh (manga).
As for 1st Rikkai match, the flow of the games potrayed differently except Inui vs Renji, most notably, no mention of Muga no Kyochi in the anime and the Nioh/Yagyu trick.

[diopatra]

there also small details that added in the anime, like the eating-burger match between momo and echizen before playing the street tennis (anime). another one was the part where they hit colored ball to the corresponding colorted cone. in anime, the punishment was to drink the inui juice. i think there all small things that someone like me who is fan of POT can notice.

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

it kind of weird seeing the manga using the anime

[diopatra]

i know. but maybe they add something on the anime to spice it up more.

anyway either version i still love prince of tennis

[Leehar]

maybe im refering to the anime. geez im really confused now. the last raniking tournament to determine who will play on the nationals, tezuka and fuji had a match and tezuka won. that also the first time it was revealed that they had a match two years ago where fuji won against tezuka with a big margin.

In the last ranking tounament Tezuka played Momo and Inui.
To decide who played in the nationals, Tezuka and Oishi played with Oishi losing.

[wildstriker]

^ and like every manga nowadays, rules like that doesn't even applied anymore since Oishi also played on D1 Seigaku vs Hyotei.

[darkninja27]

FUJI is a ****n beast. Holy crap i had no idea Fuji's real game was this strong. Basically with this revelation could we say that Fuji is the best player on the team or do we need more evidence?

[noomma]

FUJI is a ****n beast. Holy crap i had no idea Fuji's real game was this strong. Basically with this revelation could we say that Fuji is the best player on the team or do we need more evidence?


I love Fuji, but....Sorry, I need more evidence. :o

We all know that Fuji is one of the best- but THE best on the team? I need more proof. All I know is that he's a great genius at hiding his true talents and the last game he lost to Shirashi and his bible tennis might have affected him profoundly.

Who knows what will happen now?

Maybe since he can't play Tezuka until he heals again, maybe he'll wipe the court with Niou's faux-Tezuka? :thumbup:

All I know is that Fuji knows he can't lose this match. If he does, then it's all over for Seigaku. :skull:

And he knows that he can't let that happen without a great fight. I think that's why he started so strongly.

[Leehar]

We still need to see Ryoma's 'Pinnacle of Perfection' so the next 2 matches can't be lost
Also, we could see that at the end of the (1st year)match between Fuji and Tezuka, Fuji was pretty angry with him. So it's possible that Tezuka wasn't playing at full strength(he was also injured at the time). So we need more evidence before we can say Fuji is the best in the team(we all know Ryoma's the best :; )

[orange.neko]

According to the anime, Tezuka lost cause he had his wrist broken... the anime and manga scene was pretty similar, so maybe that was the reason Tezuka lost? Also, Fuji seemed pretty angry, even though he won... so there's probably a reason why he won so easily...

I'm not on Tezuka's side... cause Fuji's my fave. character by far!!!!!! I LOVE FUJI <3....

[orange.neko]

Does anyone know which chapter it was when Fuji went to find Tachibana to play a practice game... the one when An and Kamio tried to stop them...

[wildstriker]

You mean where Fuji get own'd by Tachibana?, it's on chapter 243 and 244.

BTW, new chpater's out, Nioh lead by 5-4 currently, and have broken all Fuji's counter, seems that Fuji will bring out his new counter by next chapter...

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

You mean where Fuji get own'd by Tachibana?, it's on chapter 243 and 244.

BTW, new chpater's out, Nioh lead by 5-4 currently, and have broken all Fuji's counter, seems that Fuji will bring out his new counter by next chapter...

So I am right that he have a new counter.But it later then I expected

[wildstriker]

It's expected, but not yet confirmed, however, If he doesn't have one, he'll might as well lost to Nioh since Gatekeeper of Hecatonchieres have been countered as well.

However, at the last pages, it showed that Fuji also managed to break "Saeki Kenpatsu no Kiwami" from Nioh, in which Tezuka managed to counter with both "Hyakuren Jitoku no Kiwami" + "Saeki Kenpatsu no Kiwami" previously on Chitose. So..., something is defenitely not right about Fuji to counter it w/o any Muga at all....

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

if it is only one new counter then it must be something that can be use as both a serve return(to counter 0 shiki drop serve)and a ball that cannot be land on anywhere predictcable(to counter Saeki kenpatsu).Meaning a counter that is a gamble.

By the way Saeki kenpatsu is not 100% work on Fuji.He hide his strength and weakness.Saeki Kenpatsu is like data tennis.

[Seraphimaurion]

How can you return a serve that doesn't bounce when it hits the ground, and the ball has to hit the ground

[kakashi1300]

yah right about saiki not totally effective against fuji, since he's the most unpredictable player around. and i think the final counter will shine next chapter.

[wildstriker]

How can you return a serve that doesn't bounce when it hits the ground, and the ball has to hit the ground

Tezuka advise "If a shot cannot be returned, then I shouldn't have try to return it.", which means, in PoT universe, it's auto win...
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Seriously, PoT universe shouldn't really be questioned like any other shounen magz manga. It's like asking how can Ichigo lasted more than 11 seconds in his Vizard form when fighting against Grimmjow while he cannot even do that prior to Ulquiorra fight.

In Tezuka case, he also pulled that out of nowhere at all, basically, If you have the resolve to win, any new shot is possible (to be created by the author).

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

How can you return a serve that doesn't bounce when it hits the ground, and the ball has to hit the ground

hit it before it bounce easy

[gr1mmy]

That's an illegal shot...

[wildstriker]

hit it before it bounce easy

Er..., it's a fault..., you're not allowed to return serve before it bounce/hit the baseline.
Try go play tennis somewhere, the instructor should at least tell you the rules.

[gr1mmy]

You can look up the rules on the internet.

The manga never had an instance where the receiver caught a serve before the bounce, because none of them are completely noobies.

[wildstriker]

Well, that's what we get with a genius as the main character ;).

Every different sports have a specific rules to obey, I thought anyone that read PoT, would have at least try playing tennis once....
And If you don't know the rules of sport you're playing, you'll end up stupidly like Hanamichi Sakuragi when first time playing basketball (sliding tackle in basketball anyone? :D)

[gr1mmy]

That's one of the problems with PoT.

People who aren't very familiar with the sport don't understand it as well.

[wildstriker]

But aren't we've at least tried/played one kind of any sports in school time at most in PE lesson?, I remember having a test serve back then in my high school on a tennis session...

[gr1mmy]

My tennis serve is pretty crappy. I need to work on it.

But, not all people have played tennis.

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

then why Shiraishi can hit Fuji Tsubame gaeshi before it bounce?

Guess it have to use Tezuka zone as a rival Fugi maybe can like momo and Snake?

[wildstriker]

Bacause it's already on rally phase when Shiraishi hit it.

Let me explain shortly then..., Serve rules on tennis:
Server - must hit the ball on the opposite baseline, other else is considered as fault.
Receiver - not allowed to hit the ball before it bounce the baseline area, hitting it before the ball bounce is considered as a fault (receiver), If in a case the ball land outside from baseline, it's also a fault (server).

While on rally phase, you can hit the ball as long as it has go over your net, even If it hasn't hit the ground.

[mizu-genkaku]

omg!! guys!! i read this at the rycolaa irc last week...they just anounced that Shounen Jump won't serialize PoT anymore...and ther's like 5 or something chappies more to go..

[wildstriker]

Er..., it's already stated so since last month I believe, PoT is scheduled to end this November at issue #52 of shounen jump.

[Beney]

i think it usually takes 4-5. chapters per game in the national tournament. and i's already issue 48 this week. so they might loose to rikkaidai. and ryoma might not even be able to play. unless they lengthen the chapters, the neding would seem rushed.

[kakashi1300]

hit it before it bounce easy

a tennis serve that doesn't bounce is an automatic ace. you cannot return it without committing violations. volleys are not allowed in returns (well, a non-bouncing serve is impossible to begin with, having experience hitting the ball myself. no matter how much backspin i apply to the ball it will bounce.)

[wildstriker]

Don't feel bad..., PoT is shounen manga after all, where characters' resolve will make anything impossible possible.

[gr1mmy]

@kakashi: It's possible to have the ball hit the net though XD My coach can do that.

[wildstriker]

But then, it won't be as perfect as Tezuka serve :D, while at best at Fuji's level (Gatekeeper of Hecatonchires).

[gr1mmy]

Sigh... I wish tennis was this awesome in real life.

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

then is it possible for Fuji to create incredible spin when it went over the net without hitting it

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

wait then how did Sanada counter Tezuka's zero shiki drop serve?

[wildstriker]

Sanada didn't manage to counter any of it, read the Tezuka vs. Sanada chapters again.

I don't understand your question about Fuji, since logically speaking you can't create any spin w/o hitting it.

[gr1mmy]

-.- *scratches head*

Play a little tennis and you'll get it.

The only way to counter Tezuka's zero, is to hit it before the bounce.

Fuji? Ummm... even if he's a genius, he can't hit a ball with an incredible spin, without hitting it.

[shichitenshi]

hmmm.. tennis is not as easy as what we think of it.. gyahahah.. but i hope i can do some of the tricks in pot in real life.. it will be awesome!!

[Shuyin]

I won't be surprised if Fuji pulls something crazy and hits the serve with insane topspin right when it hits the ground or something.

[gr1mmy]

@shichitenshi

Most of them are impossible. >.<

[kakashi1300]

-.- *scratches head*

Play a little tennis and you'll get it.

The only way to counter Tezuka's zero, is to hit it before the bounce.

Fuji? Ummm... even if he's a genius, he can't hit a ball with an incredible spin, without hitting it.

what do you mean by tezuka's zero? the serve or the drop-shot? if it's the drop shot then it's the most logical thing to do since the ball is already alive (alive meaning it's in the middle of a rally) and volleys are allowed on rallies. if it's the zero-shiki serve then it can't be really countered since you can't return a serve with a volley. (i think you can't step past your service line when returning a serve.)

(for starters a volley is a shot before the ball bounces on the player's court)

[wildstriker]

Volley mostly used by Kikumaru for referral.... (i.e: his Australia formation w/Oishi put him in front of the net and hitting the ball before it landed).

[Tomm-E]

I'm lost, how come in Fuji's match right now his vsing the swindler who has Tezuka's image and everyone is talking about how Fuji and Tezuka have only ever played a match in their freshmen year...???Haven't they already played eachother in the Ranking Tournament before the nationals started while echizen was in America?

[gr1mmy]

@Kakashi: Yeah I meant the drop shot.

Kikumaru does the most impossible things...

[kusiobache]

well actually the impossible part is putting on the magnitude of spin needed for most of their shots, but if by some miracle u have the strength for that spin then theoretically it should be possible

[gr1mmy]

Hmmm... let's review Drive B.


Definitely impossible.

You somehow split step, and slide, then jump, and hit a ball with topspin...

[wildstriker]

@ Tomm-E: Read some of my posts few back again about anime/manga differences

@ gr1mm: Provided the split step possible, is it rather likely a player will slide in the middle of the match?, moreover, to jump that high in the air and hitting the ball that come with a high speed while in the process?

Now that you mention it, most of PoT players have tremendous physical strength as well, such as the super high jump and almost floating in the air, easily beat of even Jordan's air walk. :D

[gr1mmy]

And they fail to properly comply to tennis rules.

[wildstriker]

Yup...., I mean, the referee doesn't even know the differences between Echizen and Horio XD.

[gr1mmy]

And, there's the Tezuka zone...

Definitely impossible.

[wildstriker]

Like...., is the Hadokyuu even possible to do?, hit a player flying 'till the spectators bench (Gin's Hadokyuu).
On top of that playing tennis until bloody hell like Kawamura and Kirihara in semi-final (I think the referee will stop you as soon as you're injured).

[gr1mmy]

Um... Hadokyuu is just a flat ball as far as I can tell. It's all just strength.

And I'm pretty sure you won't fly back.

[wildstriker]

And to top the ridiculouscy of PoT, Muga no Kyochi! :D
Like..., "Saiki Kenpatsu no Kiwami" turns you into tennis ESP, knowing how many shots needed to end the match.

[gr1mmy]

Absolutely impossible...

And there's all the crazy anime only shots.

[wildstriker]

Like who's?

I know the movie version is indeed ridiculous..., like how Tezuka destroyed the dinousaurs.

[gr1mmy]

Emmm, there's like Kikumaru's doppleganger.

[wildstriker]

Yeah, that one...., it's also in the manga, but with less ridiculouscy, in the manga it just showed the two Kikumarus are done by his speed. The anime farfetched it by making it's possible to have 3 Kikumarus at the time, and also hanging to each others shoulder like "real" one (while it's only supposed to be a "vision")

[gr1mmy]

And mid air dopplegangers... even less realistic. How do you move through the air?

[wildstriker]

Use shuunpo technique from Bleach? :D, :lol: image how If he's a shinigami...

[gr1mmy]

There's also Kaidou's super crazy stamina, not to mention his boomerang snake.

[wildstriker]

Well, to top that, like Momoshiro super dunk smash (which blow though the opponent racket 0_0) even possible....

[gr1mmy]

Well, Newton's third law.

He'd break HIS strings first.

[wildstriker]

Well, I never heard of breaking tennis racket will a ball at least, although, though it would be very convinient way to win the match...., imagine If Fuji last counter is something like that..., "You don't even need to try to return the ball anymore since it'll go through the racket strings."

[gr1mmy]

The only realistic players are like, the bad players...

[wildstriker]

Hm...., well, Shiraishi doesn't really have any fancy move at all, just a tennis play without any necessary movement, and he managed to play very well and beaten Fuji.

[gr1mmy]

I guess...

Also, I don't understand the Swallow's Return. A super slice?

[wildstriker]

The only simple discription I know is returning the ball with twice the spin received from the opponent ball..., so I think it's actually a super topspin, but then again, I'm rather not sure If that's all....

[gr1mmy]

It's supposed to be a super slice... but then, the ball wouldn't roll.

[wildstriker]

You mean slice shot will not make make the ball roll?

Well, putting that aside, I'm not even sure how to discribe the rest of Fuji's counter as well.

[gr1mmy]

Well, I mean how it lands and starts spinning along the ground.

A slice would just kill the bounce.

[wildstriker]

Hm..., perhaps Fuji totally kill of the ball bounce that it'll even not bouncing anymore after it landed?, or maybe......... *head explode while thinking of some explanation to it*

[gr1mmy]

And there's Higuma Otoshi. Or bear drop.

Supposedly, it uses centrifugal force to kill the power of the smash and lob it.

Your arm needs to be extremely strong.

[wildstriker]

Yes..., that one, I think it's basically not to take the smash head on, but using centrifugal force to absorb the power given and push it back (via high lob) to the opponent court).

[gr1mmy]

-.- I don't see how it would work at all.

[wildstriker]

Me neither, bu that's what the manga info provided -_-

Well, how'd you want to explain Fuji's Hakugei?

[gr1mmy]

Well... It's a rising shot, for one thing. A huge one. And it has a rotating rotation, so that when it reaches the top of the arc, it'll dive down, but then turn back into a slice. When it hits the ground, the spin pushes the ball back to Fuji.

Wind is for control?

[wildstriker]

Uhh...., seems too complicated to handle, on top of that, need natural forces like wind too?, he's a genius alright...., but really though, it is 100% when the ball will dive down at the exactly time (instead of out), and the ball precisely spin back into his hand (0_0).

[gr1mmy]

I can sort of do that.

Gravity takes in effect at the last part.

Alright, now, lets describe Tezuka Zone.

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

well it is like a magnet so ......forget it

[wildstriker]

Er..., from the manga explanation, Tezuka Zone is...., putting tremondeous spin in the ball after several rallies then keeping the ball in tact with spin it created so that all the ball opponent hit will go back to the receiver place.

How about your understanding....?

[gr1mmy]

Well, I think that this thing would be absolutely impossible if he did not know how his opponents were going to return.

He would need like, data tennis.

[wildstriker]

Well, I think data tennis is one of the plausible thing to do in PoT right? :D, but I'll make you looks like a stalker of some sort while you're in it....

The probability of the next post after this will take less than 5 minutes is...., 99%. :lol:

[gr1mmy]

No, it's 100%

And let's see...

Oishi's moon volley.

I don't know why it's called a volley, it isn't one.

[wildstriker]

I think the volley here means the ball flying up high like how it's played volleyball.

[gr1mmy]

Hmmm... Well, at least this shot is realistic.

It's nice and simple.

[wildstriker]

That's why Oishi is the weakest single player in Seigaku line-up -_-

[gr1mmy]

And there's more.

The Cyclone Smash, even though it's anime only.

[wildstriker]

Since it's anime, it doesn't even need any explanation...., just a super uber powerful smash that will even blow people away.

[gr1mmy]

It's supposed to have something to do with twisting your body up and unwinding, to reach a really high speed smash.

[wildstriker]

Smash isn't like Ryoma type to begin with, the anime even overrated it by showing how the opponent being slammed together with the "aura" of the ball...., the Cool Drive he created in manga is better actually.

[gr1mmy]

Definitely.

Oh yeah, and the Scud Serve and Waterfall are all just basically extremely fast serves...

[wildstriker]

That reminds me..., what's the fatest serve record in real life anyway...., it stated that Choutarou Scud Serve is the fastest in PoT so far w/ 215 Km/h

[gr1mmy]

About 155 mph or 259 km/h


Seems realistic enough.

[wildstriker]

Yeah...., done, by uh...., middle schoolers?

[gr1mmy]

-.- Better than everything else.

[wildstriker]

Power of youth is sure amazing in PoT verse..., isn't it?

Japan will make it in no time to climb up If all the future tennis players are PoT-versed.

[gr1mmy]

Kikumaru probably has the scariest stamina in the anime. OVA.

Probably even bigger than Kaidou's...

[wildstriker]

Well, I'd say Kaidoh have a better advantage in single match though, especially now he can produce both fast straight ball and curve ball.

[gr1mmy]

Generating that much spin is impossible -.-

[wildstriker]

Same as Kikumaru doppleganger as well...., but making what impossible possible is what shounen manga about.

[gr1mmy]

Yarp...

I really want to see one of the games that Nanjiro played.

[wildstriker]

Didn't he played one in the anime?

We might or might not get one in the manga later, since the series is closing soon.

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

well anyone think what is yukimura tennis? I have a weird feeling that he can use principle of perfection though no one know so far.

[gr1mmy]

Well, basically, in theory, if every single aspect of his tennis is perfect, like form, volley, stroke, all that, he should be able to win every game.

[wildstriker]

Yup, we'll see Yukimura soon...

btw, new chapter out as well (should've realized sooner), no scans yet though, Fuji 6th counter is called "Hoshi Hanabi" (lit: Star Fireworks).

[gr1mmy]

Damn, I need to read up more PoT. I'm pretty far behind now.

[wildstriker]

You mean you're not on the latest chapter yet?

[gr1mmy]

Nope, far from it. I haven't read PoT in a while.

I haven't had much time recently.

[wildstriker]

Just download them all first. :D

[gr1mmy]

My computer is low on mem, another big problem -.-

[wildstriker]

buy another external HD. :lol:

[Mibu Kyoshiro]

I just think that principle of perfection is muga no kyonichi(copy all technique seen)princeiple of hard work and great wisdom.I looking forward the match Echizen vs yukimura hope they play S first then D2

[diopatra]

fuji sounds convincingly dangerous when he said "i dont lose twice on the same opponent", contradicting his personality as funny and calm.

[wildstriker]

He's like that too in semi-final when facing Shiraishi, apperantly, it's because until ****enhouji, Fuji always get an easy opponents. Guess the loss must've trigger his serious side.

[kakashi1300]

I just think that principle of perfection is muga no kyonichi(copy all technique seen)princeiple of hard work and great wisdom.I looking forward the match Echizen vs yukimura hope they play S first then D2

what do you mean by this? all the 3 pinnacles are states past muga no kyouchi, so teni muhou no kiwami is not = muga.

anyways i have read your posts guys talking about the possibilities of the techniques in pot if done in real life. i'd say all of them are impossible, although some are done in real life, just tone them down 10 times (like the twist serve, snake, etc) and the sliding in drive B is possible only on clay courts. balls not bouncing are impossible, you need a spin with a greater force than it's forward force (the push of the racket plus gravity), so as rackets getting blown away (at least that's what i think). and also, i can't figure out tsubame gaeshi. why does the ball roll forwards when it's supposed to roll backwards (like zero-shiki DS) since it's supposed to be a super-sliced ball.


and about the new chapter, it's cool fuji takes the favor again, and announces the 6th counter.

[wildstriker]

Well, we're not exactly discussing the probability of doing it in real life..., but rather, how's the concept of technique done by the players, gr1mm sounds confident about capable of doing the Hakugei and Moon Volley though.

And well...., it's not like you can make people fly off to the spectator bench no matter how powerful the shot is anyway (Gin's Hadokyuu).

[diopatra]

i think moonvolley can be done in real life. its matter of control, i guess

[kakashi1300]

well anyone can do moonvolley by chance. but to repeatedly use the technique is impossible, since it really requires an insane pinpoint accuracy (it's already hard making the ball go to the direction you want, even harder to make it land where you want it)

[Tomm-E]

Unless you've had Gunbound experience =P joke joke.
In the end all the exaggerated moves in PoT is impossible to do in this day and age, it requires a tremendous about of spin which we humans can't apply....
But i have repeatedly done a Hakugei on table tennis which is pretty cool. Rising shot is possible in tennis but a certain distance away from the net otherwise it'll be a lob to go over the net and won't have speed.

[kakashi1300]

it's because in lawn tennis spin is of little importance in the game. you only use spins to slow the ball down in case of a drop shot, or top spins to make the ball go faster in case of rallies. what's more important in lawn tennis is ball control, which is hitting the ball with the right force in the right direction to hit a winner.

@Tomm-E when you did a hakugei did the ball really go back? because i tried that shot many times. it's very difficult to make the ball bounce backwards since the forward push you apply on the ball is always greater than the backwards spin you create

[gr1mmy]

@Kakashi: Actually, it's not all that hard. It's a top spin lob. And control is something you can really get in real life. Oishi doesn't really use it all the much anyway.

And Hakugei is impossible, don't even try.

[kakashi1300]

yeah you can do a top spin lob, but for it to become moon volley the ball must land exactly on the baseline, and i believe it's very hard to do.

btw the hakugei we were talking about is on table tennis. i have seen a friend of mine return a ball that bounced backwards (not exactly hakugei)

[gr1mmy]

Oh, I can do that.

My uncle can too, but he can make it rise as well ^^

[wildstriker]

But this is not Prince of PingPong that we're discussing now.... :lol:

[gr1mmy]

Exactly.

Alright, so the first chapter is all about Nanjiro, any others?

[wildstriker]

Well, put in Ryoma for auto win XD.

[gr1mmy]

Yeah, that's sort of the problem. Echizen never loses in a tourney... Made thread three

[Tomm-E]

@Tomm-E when you did a hakugei did the ball really go back? because i tried that shot many times. it's very difficult to make the ball bounce backwards since the forward push you apply on the ball is always greater than the backwards spin you create

Simple although i fluked it the first time, just wait till the opponent is about to smash take a step back
and slant the bat and drop it it won't always land in the same spot but it will always come back.

[gr1mmy]

http://forum.onemanga.com./showthread.php?t=4036


-.- I said, I made a new thread.

[darkninja27]

Ryoma has amnesia right now so i dont know abt that. All im concerned abt is that Fuji is the greatest player ever. The guy kicks ***.

[aizen2008]

yea 6th counter hoshi hanabi ( fireworks star) cool name