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pigpie

09-06-2007, 02:40 PM

You named it 3,will people be able to actually tell the diff??
Ep 23 is nice, I like to see the faces of the Claymore at the last few scene,like looking in awe of Clare.

Ophelia Vs Galatea

I thought Galatea just need to control the main part of the arm.like the top part that isn't vibrating constantly,that way she can stop.Actually Clare reading of Yoki isn't very good,it was only rated C+ while Teresa is rated an S,it only happens that Clare is particulary good in reading Yoki since she isn't good at almst everything else

nhy390

09-06-2007, 02:57 PM

Yeah I know, big mistake, but oh well. Thats what you get when a noobie is in the driver seat and left unsupervised! The people should be able to tell the difference because this one was started by me (nhy390) the other one by Hynavian. i suppose I could get in touch with the admins and get them to change it to Claymore 4.

Well, Clare can't be that bad at reading yogi since she managed to take out that awakened being... having said that, wasnt there something about her not being able to switch between reading and offense without loosing concentration?

pigpie

09-06-2007, 03:04 PM

Yup,because as I said she isn;t very good at reading,so chances are that she can't differentiate Yoki unlike Teresa. Thus Clare has to keep hers down so she can concentrate fully on one Yoki other than hers,so he offese drops since she can oleave it on.What Clare mainly did with the awakened one was just dodge his attack,slice off his limbs and than get whacked,only with Miria help did she kill the awakened one.

nhy390

09-06-2007, 03:20 PM

I have sent a message to the admin asking them to change the name to Claymore 4.

Regarding ep. 23. I must admit I am really hoping that Raki will get wacked off. He is so annoying. Winging all the time!!!! Somebody put him out of his missery... PLEASE!!!

What did you all think of the Extra Scene? Didnt realise Ilsey was so BIG!!! He is HUGE!!!

hagger

09-06-2007, 03:47 PM

Yeah! Kinda makes you wonder how Clare is gonna end up killing Priscilla though: if she could destroy half his body in a split second, what chance does Clare or anybody else have? Maybe they'll end up with some agreement, or Clare will die as she kills her or something.

I haven't seen the latest anime yet... Is it worth it? How they change the story kinda annoys me, but i guess its necessary for such a short series. What does everyone else think about that?

nhy390

09-06-2007, 03:59 PM

Hey Dagger, I think if you have followed the anime this far you might as well bear with the last few episodes. I thought it was a lot better than 22 and the fight scenes are pretty good. Watch it, if you dont like it, you can always join in on the slagging off!!! :D

I don't know how cClare will manage against Priscilla, but we still havent seen them fight, so they have become tremendously good. However, I think it is always easier for a smaller target to take on abig target as the small one is harder to hit and has an easier time hitting a big target. I know she got hit good and proper by Isley, so she can obviously take a severe beating. Plus, she regenerates so damn fast it is incredible! How do you beat something like that? I suppose the head needs to come off real quick!

Hynavian

09-06-2007, 04:40 PM

=====Welcome to the Claymore 4 Thread=====
(My apologies for slacking for the past few hours)

Lets remember to name the next thread Claymore 5 ya :)

Ophelia will be my avatar and banner of the week. Ophelia power!

Hey! I'm new here. Iniatially, i came in just to ask what happen to the claymore manga. But while reading through some of your post, i found them quite interesting. Unfortunately, i skipped alot of post since im actually at work right now and i don't have alot of time to read. Anyway, hope its okay with you guys if i join in sometime. And ohh.. i found the answer to my question. So no need for a reply. Thanx!

Hi, welcome to the forum Echo, make yourself at home :D

Poor Rigald...no wonder he went wild @ Pieta. He got his a** kicked by BOTh Pris & Isley, so the only people he could kick around were weaker Claymores. LOL

Agreed buddy! If Im him, I would feel real demoralised if I get my a** kicked continuously.

hollywoodlou

09-06-2007, 06:03 PM

It says Claymore 4 still...As co-president of the Claymore forum, I am appalled of you slacking on your duties., HY. ;)

PS, looks like you changed you banner, I've got a new one as well...
*****

episode 23 was an improvement from the garbage of episode 22. Less Raki, More Rigald but where in the hell did the "other Claymores" come from? LOL.

At least we see Cynthia and Tabitha, helping out my mistress Miria.

Manga differences: the sudden appearance of the Claymores and Clare shredding Lion Boy to pieces using a Claymore?!?
What happened to her "blades"? Ridiculous.

Hynavian

09-06-2007, 06:26 PM

PS, looks like you changed you banner, I've got a new one as well...
*****
Im going to put an avatar and banner on Isley next. It good to change now and then.

At least we see Cynthia and Tabitha, helping out my mistress Miria.
Oh ya I was really happy to see them both tending to Miria. But I kinda pity Cynthia though :( Her friend Veronica didnt make it. And I was further straining my eyes and am looking out for Yuma. Where is YUMA!

I want to see some YUMA POWER!!!! :eban:

PS: Maybe my next avatar and banner should be on Yuma so as to promote her. I kinda find her a nice character, its a pity that she's not noticed.

Manga differences: the sudden appearance of the Claymores and Clare shredding Lion Boy to pieces using a Claymore?!?
What happened to her "blades"? Ridiculous.
Buddy I am thinking....maybe Clare saved those blades for Priscilla and Isley. Since the anime is taking a different dive, Madhouse maybe saved Clare's blade for her later encounter with the antagonists. It appears to me that both Priscilla and Isley are heading to Pieta and with only 3 more episodes to go, I think the face off will be soon. Hence, to battle the antagonists, Clare might use her hands of blades later. (My speculations though)

Some sidenote, Claymore Volume 13 will be out in Jpn stores on the 4th of October (Saturday).

hollywoodlou

09-06-2007, 06:33 PM

Im going to put an avatar and banner on Isley next. It good to change now and then.

Oh ya I was really happy to see them both tending to Miria. But I kinda pity Cynthia though :( Her friend Veronica didnt make it. And I was further straining my eyes and am looking out for Yuma. Where is YUMA!

I want to see some YUMA POWER!!!! :eban:

PS: Maybe my next avatar and banner should be on Yuma so as to promote her. I kinda find her a nice character, its a pity that she's not noticed.

Buddy I am thinking....maybe Clare saved those blades for Priscilla and Isley. Since the anime is taking a different dive, Madhouse maybe saved Clare's blade for her later encounter with the antagonists. It appears to me that both Priscilla and Isley are heading to Pieta and with only 3 more episodes to go, I think the face off will be soon. Hence, to battle the antagonists, Clare might use her hands of blades later. (My speculations though)

Some sidenote, Claymore Volume 13 will be out in Jpn stores on the 4th of October (Saturday).

I have a banner where Clare is on a dog leash with Raki being her pimp but the software was using too much MB's so Im switching back to Gimp 2.3.
*****

On Yuma, dont care much about her. Maybe I'm too spoiled looking at hot Claymores, and she's like the ugly sister. lol
Besides she's got a confidence problem. Lame
*****

The blades are going to awaken next episode and Galatea will save Clare. ANYBODY should save Clare except for Raki. I'll even take a dog to get Clare back once she awakens...not Raki. He's served his purpose as the Jimmy Olsen of the series.

Hynavian

09-06-2007, 06:52 PM

On Yuma, dont care much about her. Maybe I'm too spoiled looking at hot Claymores, and she's like the ugly sister. lol
Besides she's got a confidence problem. Lame
*****
Oh no poor Yuma. Come to think of it, erm...I don't see anyone in this forum rooting for her. Let's give Yuma some confidence boost.

:eban::eban:Go Go Go Yuma! :eban::eban:

The blades are going to awaken next episode and Galatea will save Clare. ANYBODY should save Clare except for Raki. I'll even take a dog to get Clare back once she awakens...not Raki. He's served his purpose as the Jimmy Olsen of the series.
Hmm if Galatea is going to appear in the battle at Pieta, my speculated ending might come true. Galatea will save Clare from awakening and then Galatea will get herself a** kicked by both Isley+Pris and etc etc etc.

Oh ya, many others were rooting for your version of the ending where Teresa came and pawned Priscilla.

chezkimo

09-06-2007, 07:23 PM

Hynavian , love your avatar (i know where you got it!) and your banner. love your banner to bits actually, where did you get it from!!!!!

lol. ah "yuma's the ugly sister", that's not nice! I'll root for yuma too!! GO YUMA GO.

oh yeah, and i don't think galatea will get hrself killed by priscilla and isley, she's not dumb enough to go head on with those two, infact i'm sure she'll come along, restore clare and then be like.

"ooh, hi prissy....By prissy" *woosh* Gone with the wind
Miria: "come back, i need hair styling tips...and oh yeah, we're ABOUT TO DIE!"

seeing as you guys have new stuff i gotta find stuff quick too!

Pansori

09-06-2007, 07:44 PM

I just discovered Claymore, and I LOVE it. I was wanting to read a new series, so I breezed through Gantz... but as a female I love strong female characters and the women in Gantz... well, I think their main purpose is to either be rape victims or appear topless on the over. :lol:
Anyway, I'm only on Chp. 16, I still have quite a bit to go... on the anime, is it pretty faithful to the manga?

Hynavian

09-06-2007, 07:56 PM

This is the post that I have edited and saved by accident.

And I cant remember the content.

Sorry folks.

Briefly:

- I think I welcomed Pansori
- And I think I bet that captain was going to change his avatar/sig to one that is on Riful.
- I think I said episode 20+ or (cant really remember what number) episode of the anime has significant changes as compared to the manga.
- I praised the anime for its good fighting effects.

hollywoodlou

09-06-2007, 08:12 PM

Anyway, I'm only on Chp. 16, I still have quite a bit to go... on the anime, is it pretty faithful to the manga?

With regards to the anime, it's quite faithful to the manga for the first 21 episodes. Significant changes can be seen from episode 22 onwards. Oh ya, the effects are portrayed way better in the anime though.

Correction co-prez...the significant changes which deviated from the manga started in episode 18...the northern campaign arc. On almost every Claymore thread, there was growing hatred to how Raki was being portrayed....from loser in the manga to hero in the anime.

Plus Madhouse the animator...took out key scenes in the last 5 episodes which were crucial to the success in the manga. Overall, writing-wise...Madhouse totally screwed up the series BUT animation wise...it is superb.

*****

Changed my avatar from Teresa to Miria.

chezkimo

09-06-2007, 08:14 PM

Yay. Welcome. Yep, it was the same for me. I started reading and then I was hooked! People read the discription just thinking it's like just a demon-hunting type thing but when the stroy line goes further and further it gets deeper and darker and plot twists develope and all the cool characters and the 1001 hair stles those girls have got.

and Hynavian. Close but no donut! Besides, i've already had Riful stuff for soo long. so i went with my 2nd fav. claymore, Irene. ...although i couldn't get a good sig, i just made this in like 3 secs so don't make fun of it, but i liked how she looked in all these so...

and i still wanna know where you got the sig. pic from. it's so cute and funny!!!

Hynavian

09-06-2007, 08:25 PM

My guess is Riful. <=== Your idol.

I lost...
Captain put up an avatar and a sig on Irene instead. Captain I like your idea of putting 3 snapshots for your signature. I'll go take snapshots of Galatea later and start planning for my next signature.

Correction co-prez...the significant changes which deviated from the manga started in episode 18...the northern campaign arc. On almost every Claymore thread, there was growing hatred to how Raki was being portrayed....from loser in the manga to hero in the anime.

Plus Madhouse the animator...took out key scenes in the last 5 episodes which were crucial to the success in the manga. Overall, writing-wise...Madhouse totally screwed up the series BUT animation wise...it is superb.

Oh gosh, I can't really remember where the changes are but I trust you on this Prezzo ;)

Changed my avatar from Teresa to Miria.

Will you be changing your avatar to Miria too?
But I think that your current Teresa's avatar is real sexy too. Maybe we can do snapshots of our idols for our signatures.

Now let me recall which are the episodes/scenes where Galatea did appear so that I can snapshot her.
---Utilising brain cell power. Current level: 10percent---

PS: Its late here and Im dizzy and I realised that I have edited my previous post by accident. I cant really remember what the content was though. Sorry folks, your co-prez is rather "lost in one's own world today". I'm going to hit my bed soon.

chezkimo

09-06-2007, 08:36 PM

you know co-prezzo, you're actually right. anime wise, leaving out the manga it is good. i guess we just can't help but compare it to the awesomness that is the manga.

oooh. yay yay XD *clap clap* i did something good without realising it. though i'm sure your sig will be much better with the screen shots as i don't have any advanced image applications, the photo editor i got now is axcting strange, can't use it, i think i accidently uninstalled it.

and that avatar suits my personality anyway, cool and mellow, yet so totally up for whopping a** when i need to.

i keep forgetting your times are toally different it must be like 2 oclock for you. ok, night - night then.

hollywoodlou

09-06-2007, 08:42 PM

Will you be changing your avatar to Miria too?
But I think that your current Teresa's avatar is real sexy too. Maybe we can do snapshots of our idols for our signatures.

I will...but NOt Miria. I love different women...I mean, Claymores around my posts.

Hynavian

09-06-2007, 08:48 PM

I will...but NOt Miria. I love different women...I mean, Claymores around my posts.

Oh...Maybe Miata as avatar will work fine for you :thumbup:
(Pick the one where she was tearing Yomas apart with her bare hands in the forest XD) <=== Im joking Prezzo.

and that avatar suits my personality anyway, cool and mellow, yet so totally up for whopping a** when i need to.

The Irene avatar that you have now gives me an impression that she's a bit lost. So if the Irene's avatar igives me an impression that she's lost, and its a parallel of you, then you must be ..... :lol:

i keep forgetting your times are toally different it must be like 2 oclock for you. ok, night - night then.

Its around 4am here. Ok, goodnight folks.

hollywoodlou

09-06-2007, 09:09 PM

dbl post

Unreal

09-06-2007, 09:28 PM

Ophelia will win NOT because she's "strong minded" ...it's rather the opposite. She's a SOCIOPATH. Her brain is irrational and her subconscious more twisted than a rollercoaster.
She will win vs her opponents based on her personality...NOT SKILL. You see if it's Galatea who uses her yoki controlling abilities vs Ophy, she will lose because Ophy's mind must be "in doubt" or "weak". It's not. It's irrational ergo, Gal's tricks wont work.

Yes she maybe a Sociapath, but if she is that weak minded, i don't think she can think of avenging her brother or even reach to been a single digit, the reason she lost herself because she was in the same time mortally wounded, humiliated by one move and unknowning it was Irene's strength, If she was really weak minded, she would not have kept her human conscious when she was an awaken being.

Galatea's yoki manupilation technique works better on duph because he is weak on intelligence but Ophelia is intelligence and is always confidence.

Ophelia will lose to Miria because Miria's phantom technique has evolved in 7 years into a faster, but more controlled technique which doesn't tire her mentally as before.
IF Ophelia is so fast...how come she got her *** handed to her by Irene?
Besides, Miria accdg to Deneve @ Pieta has faced much "horrendous" AB's since the Slashers' arc as punishment for sticking her nose in investigations...

If your saying the miria after 7 years that ophelia may still be alive but has not improved then im sure she can beat her since, But of course Ophelia get her *** handed by Irene, you can't compare the speed of miria's sword swing with Irene.

About Ophelia's speed, im sure she is quite fast, her rippling sword sure requires speed. On the manga volume endless gravestone manga, seeing how she can block three of a awaken beings limbs attack at once but couldn't penetrate the armour, then saw how she can just sneak up behind the awaken being twice. As well as her trasformation as a sepent could represent, that she excel more on speed than strength.

If she can really beat Ophelia theres no reason why she said that she was much weaker than the Top 5, afterall she did witness ophelia fighting before. Yes Miria had faced stronger awaken being but im sure she not capable of taking them one on one.

Jori

09-06-2007, 11:09 PM

On another note, Im very saddened that the anime has left the manga's storyline!! Ahh!!. They were doing so well too :(. /Sad.

klaynne

09-07-2007, 01:11 AM

ohhh.. so that's how isley/easley knelt before priscilla, rigardo/rigald had a "!" XD
How long does this series run again guys? I don't think I can wait all the way up to november T_T

Asesino

09-07-2007, 01:34 AM

Sup guys...just one question...is there a claymore game :-| (Plz say yes)..I saw hynavian's pic and....

-Asesino-

gr1mmy

09-07-2007, 01:35 AM

Sorry, but no. They haven't made one. It better be good if they make one though.

Hynavian

09-07-2007, 03:29 AM

Yes she maybe a Sociapath, but if she is that weak minded, i don't think she can think of avenging her brother or even reach to been a single digit, the reason she lost herself because she was in the same time mortally wounded, humiliated by one move and unknowning it was Irene's strength, If she was really weak minded, she would not have kept her human conscious when she was an awaken being.
I give you credit for pointing this 2 instances out to us. I totally forgotten about it. Ah yes her single digit progression and having some consciousness after awakening does show that she is a determined Claymore to some extent.

Galatea's yoki manupilation technique works better on duph because he is weak on intelligence but Ophelia is intelligence and is always confidence.
For Galatea's Yoki reading abilities, in this instance, it will be Galatea being able to read all of Ophelia's attacks. If your attacks are all known by your opponent even before you stike, you won't be able to win in any match ya :D

If your saying the miria after 7 years that ophelia may still be alive but has not improved then im sure she can beat her since, But of course Ophelia get her *** handed by Irene, you can't compare the speed of miria's sword swing with Irene.
We can compare Miria's mirages! Remember that scene where Miria challenged Clare to a fight? Miria's mirages were on par (means equal speed) with Clare's Windcutter attacks. And from what we know Windcutter is stronger but a little slower than quick sword. And we know that Ophelia was humiliated by Irene's Quick Sword attack, ... you get the picture ya.

ohhh.. so that's how isley/easley knelt before priscilla, rigardo/rigald had a "!" XD
How long does this series run again guys? I don't think I can wait all the way up to november T_T
Series as in anime? For the anime there's 26 episodes. For the manga, we're at 12 volumes, 3 Extra scenes, 73 chapters). Scheduled for 25 volumes so far.

PS: Im unsure whether there's a Claymore game as I gotten this picture from one of my buddies. I'll help you to ask her.

Pansori

09-07-2007, 03:53 AM

hollywoodlou

09-07-2007, 04:30 AM

I have a question: when is a good time to read the Claymore Extra Scenes? Should I wait until I'm completely current (on chp 31, so far) or did it come in between some chapters? Or does it not matter? Thanks!

You can read ES 1 whenever you want...there's no connection to the current manga arc. It's about Teresa and her power before chibi Clare turned her into a wuss.

You can also start reading ES2, because the story is connected to the Slashers arc, which is scenes 25-30 or anime episodes 8-10. It's about Miria.

ES3 is about Priscilla, BUT is currently connected to the anime episodes 18-23 (currently anime scenes 50-60) and dwells deeper into the manga going into the Cognates of Paradise arc scenes 62-66.

If you've seen the current episode 23, you're OK and there aren't any spoilers.

Pansori

09-07-2007, 05:35 AM

pigpie

09-07-2007, 06:18 AM

Hey.Cute Pic of Ophelia co pres,very cute,Captains Irene is cute too,too bad I don't knoow how to put up one.....i want to draw my own one and paste it up.President,your banner reminds me of Lucky Star

hollywoodlou

09-07-2007, 06:26 AM

Thank you very much, Hollywood. :)
I just finished reading the Endless Gravestones Arc... scenes, chapters... I'm not really sure how to refer to them... and if I wasn't completely sold on Claymore before I am now. Oh wow!!! Ophelia's dying thoughts were so beautiful, I teared up (yeah, I'm a sap like that). I felt sorry for her... well, in a way one would feel sorry for a serial killer who had a crappy childhood. I love when mangakas' flex their poetic muscles. And I assume her dying in the water was a not-so-subtle reference to Hamlet?
Really good picture of her floating away in the water as well.

U are very welcome. You're still @ the Endless Gravestones arc?? I envy you. Read it slowly, friend because Claymore is like wine, it ages gracefully.

By the time you finish chapter/scene 72 of the anime at your pace...chapter/scene 74 of the manga will be published on November 2. Read 2 chapters /week and you'll be on pace to discuss knowledgeably with the rest of the fellas here.

Well it wasn;t Hamlet but closer to Shakespeare's Julius Caesar when it comes to Ophelia's death. I am assuming you have read her appalling actions in ES2?

ion

09-07-2007, 07:36 AM

I just read the claymore extra vol 3
wow! I never thought that girl is really really creepy strong! I mean dude! she is a very twisted small girl. anyway, I love this volume because gives us more background story.

I can wait for the new claymore chapters! damn! can I apply for the author assistant or cleaner hehehe

pigpie

09-07-2007, 07:55 AM

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pigpie

09-07-2007, 08:05 AM

I didn;t know the pics will become so big.Sorry if any inconvinience caused

nhy390

09-07-2007, 10:51 AM

Hi all, and welcome to the forum Pansoni! Hope you enjoy it, and thanks for the update on Full Metal Alchemist! Glad you found us and joined us!

Hey Pigpie, cool pics! It would be cool if Raki grew some B***S!!! Though the anime is making me hate him and wish for his long and painful end!

I have really been enjoying the Extra Scenes and I think it is a great insight to the Claymore world and past events. Gives more depth to the characters. And, it has helped pass the time till the next chapter is out. It was cool to get a feel for Priscilla's power, though I think it is a pitty they have given her memory loss and that she acts like an annoying child. I hope she becomes more coherent. It would be good if she became proper bad-a**!

I just came to think off one thing I thought was really cool in the anime. During the fight with Rigardo, when Clare is gradually awakening parts of her body, I loved how her voice kept going deeper and deeper everytime she said "more"! I thought it was a cool touch.

PS: I have now caught up to the last chapter of Full Metal Alchemist and I have no new Manga to read. Any suggestions?

chezkimo

09-07-2007, 11:22 AM

ooh. that pic where riful and helen is playing tug of war with clare - that is so mine!!

thanks for the great pics pigpie. and yeah, whoever is just starting to read the manga. read it slowly because we don't have that luxery cause it was too good that we had to rush it! also, with all manga that a person gets really into when you progress further and further you'll start to read it faster.

and yeah, everybody says ophelia's a psycho but when a sad ending happens like that you can't help but forgive them can ya.

I guess Clare's actually got 3 souls to revenge: Teresa, with her blood, irene with her arm and ophelia with her will of revenge.

pigpie

09-07-2007, 11:27 AM

Welcome,there is actually more,about Jean using her arm,but I need to find the page first

I agree with you about the revenge for the three,But there is also Flora and Jean and the others who died in the War,a revenge against the Organisation wjich i have noo idea how they are going to over run.

nhy390

09-07-2007, 11:34 AM

Hey chezkimo, thanks for not leaving me by myself here!

Indeed, then ending of Ophilia was sad... but appropriate, no? She wasn't a nice person, so she kinda needed to go, but at least she went in a good way and kinda came around at the end.

pigpie

09-07-2007, 11:51 AM

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A Little Translation
(Galatea Sensing)
First 3 Scene

Galatea:Ahh,Ahh....No,Ahh
Last Scene
Handler:What Happened Galatea?
Galatea:Nothing,A male Claymore just awakened,you are the one with the Problem

(Emergency)
Jean:18,19,20

Clare:Are you done,Jean
Galatea:You have to hurry up

Jean:Sorry to make you wait,this will be worth it

Riful:No Way!!

(I have no ide what the title is)

First 3 Scene is the same translation as (Emergency)

Last Scene
Galatea:I am dying from the heat

(Unqualified Chef)

Same translation as the first 3 scene of (Emergency)

Jean:Oh...all the egg is spilling out

Clare:Stop this instant

chezkimo

09-07-2007, 11:55 AM

heh, no prob. you got a name/rank by the way? i don't think i've put one for you up.

anyway, yes it was appropiate but still sad. yeah, we definatly saw her other side at the end. i guess when someone has deep seeded pain it either comes out in 3 ways: Deep depression and sdaness, the will to become stronger and better or rage and violence and twistfullness.

well, we sure know how it came out in her.

and yeah, ofcourse clare has the revenge of all those 24(17 really) to revenge but so do all of the 7 gang, i mean in the revenge of priscilla specificly. after all, those 3 people's demise was due to priscilla. teresa was killed by her, irene was forced to leave the org because she feared death and was "not fit to fight" anymore and then there was ophelia whose brother priscilla killed, and the memories of her brohter being killed by priscilla was what made her awaken.

Man priscilla has done so much damage without realising it, yet she's become like a child. it makes me angry.

pigpie

09-07-2007, 12:00 PM

Indeed, then ending of Ophilia was sad... but appropriate, no? She wasn't a nice person, so she kinda needed to go, but at least she went in a good way and kinda came around at the end.

I agree with you,but Ophelia did cause Clare to lose a dominat arm,slice her a few times,than make her and Raki to seperate (which was a relieved to us watchers)But than again it was Ophelia that indirectly help Clare gain a better arm.The part Ophelia died looked quite peaceful for her.I hope Priscilla will face a worser death,because of that ***** teresa is dead:mad:

nhy390

09-07-2007, 12:00 PM

Yeah the whole inocence of Priscilla is kinda annoying I think. I wonder if they will ever let her come to her senses. I think it would make it much better if she returned to normal and was properly evil on purpose! I still dont understand how Raki could feel compassion for her whilst she is eating people (in the anime). That annoyed me as well.

There is no doubt about the fact there will be some major pay-back. However, I dont know how they will finish the manga. With a mighty clash between the abyssal ones and the 7, or the 7 annihalating the org?

I agree, pigpie, but I can't help wonder how clare would have evolved if it wasn't for Irene's arm. With her dominat arm intact, would she still have been able to learn the quick sword technique?

I hope they dont make a sobby ending with everyone feeling sorry for Priscilla. I can't really imagine it, but Raki better not get in the way of Clare taking her horny head home to hang on the wall as decoration!

pigpie

09-07-2007, 12:15 PM

I think that Raki will start crying,he is a crybaby,he cried when Elena,Clares' BFF died and he didn't even know her at all.So drama.Maybe Clare will feel sorry for Teresa and let her off,woahhh that would suck man,than Teresa won't get revenged along with Sophia,Noel and Ophelia,all the victims because of the One Horned Monster.
Maybe Clare will wake up and find Clare very irritating and get rid of him.
But seriously,I wonder the reaction when Clare sees Raki,i mean they kissed and that scene was like seriously weird,when i was looking at that scene i was like so shocked,why must Clare degrde herself to such an extent.

nhy390

09-07-2007, 12:22 PM

Yeah, that liss was seriously strange I thought! I would never kiss a kid like that! Quite wrong. Maybe it was suppose to be a comfort thing, or what the hell do I know. It will be interesting to see what will happen. I am also quite keen to find out what happened to Raki over thew last 7 years.

chezkimo

09-07-2007, 12:32 PM

I know. it's like she whooped isley's and Rigald's butt without really knowing what she was doing, but just on instinct. too powerful for her ow good.

and you guys never know, the old Raki (after seven years) we might like him. and maybe clare might even fall in love with him. i mean, the reason why we (well me anyway) disliked him so much was because he was just like some little kid that kept on going about "ooh, i must protect clare" when he obviously was a hinderence (sp?) and couldn't do jack.

by the way, do you still think Raki will be with Isley and priscilla? i mean, for seven years?! he's bound to be suspecious after they hadn't passed a days age and Isley's like:

Isley: "i hate humans, i want you all to die, muhahaha"
Raki : "what you say Is.?"
Isley: "umm, i said, why don't we play a game of hide and go seekl with priscilla, after she's been into the next town getting some "lunch"

nhy390

09-07-2007, 12:44 PM

That would be one scary game of hide and seak! I don't think Raki will be with them anymore... or rather I hope not. However, I wouldnt be surprised i Clare comes across Priscilla with Raki, and then there will be a bit of hating over who gets to have the boy. But I really hope Raki has grown up some. I found him less annoying in the manga, it was mainly the anime that made me detest him.

I think he would have had the chance to leave them a some point. I don't see why they would keep him around otherwise, except for as Priscilla's play thing. Im sure if he is still with them that he is well aware that they are not ordinary people. But I can't help wonder if the anime wrters have been told something by the manag writter so they could finish off the anime.

pigpie

09-07-2007, 12:56 PM

It is weird.
Raki has been with Clare for only a short period of time while he has been with Priscilla and Isley for 7 years,so maybe there might be a change of heart in Raki.Actually I am fine with Raki,not so much dislike, I just find his part of the anime sper boring that you only watch once,if yo watch a 2nd time you will just want to skip his part.

nhy390,maybe because of Raki seiyuu thats why he is irritating,=)But i thot thaty both anime and manga is written by the same person??

nhy390

09-07-2007, 01:49 PM

Ah, I dont know about that. I dont know details like that, but I can check it out if you'd like.

I think the situation is difficult as Raki might have been led to believe that Clare is dead, so he may have shifted his affection to Priscilla. However, if Clare was to show up I dont think he would fight her, but I think he would stand in her way for taking on Priscilla. I can't see clare killing Raki to get to Priscilla. Hence why I hope that they wont end it with Priscilla being spared. Coming to think of it, I would bequite upset if Clare doesnt get her revenge

By the way, just been rereading some of the manga (Invasion of Pita). Jean's death is oh so sad! But GRAND! What a way to go, by returning your life to the one who saved it!

pigpie

09-07-2007, 02:35 PM

Raki will definitely not fight Clare,he is always saying wanting to protect Clare,so it is highly impossible Raki will fight Clare,but matbe once Raki find out that Priscilla caused Clare to be in the state that she is,he might get angry at Priscilla than help Clare.But Isley I think will die,than Priscilla will go mad and start rampanging,but at the sight of Raki will stop than the Org will killl of Priscilla since she is very dangerous.

nhy390

09-07-2007, 02:45 PM

Hmmm, that certainly is possible. However, I dont see Alicia being strong enough to take down Priscilla. I think she will try at some point though. As for Raki. I dont know. If Raki is still together with Isley and Priscilla, I think he will have a hard time letting Priscilla die.

Hynavian

09-07-2007, 04:59 PM

@pigpie

Yoo, check your inbox I have Pm-ed you. Thanks.

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and you guys never know, the old Raki (after seven years) we might like him. and maybe clare might even fall in love with him. i mean, the reason why we (well me anyway) disliked him so much was because he was just like some little kid that kept on going about "ooh, i must protect clare" when he obviously was a hinderence (sp?) and couldn't do jack.

Captain, you have Prezzo on your side with this (about Raki's wimpy behaviour). He absolutely hates Raki.

To me, if Raki is still so wimpy and keeps crying after 7 years (when he is a man), I will then hope that Priscilla or Isley will have him for lunch. He's better off as some foodstuff for the antagonists as he's being useful by being someone's food. (Crying like a wimp will help nobody)

by the way, do you still think Raki will be with Isley and priscilla? i mean, for seven years?!

My guess is:

1. Raki got eaten by someone somehow.

2. Raki killed himself accidentally while practising with his sword.

3. Raki became a Claymore/Awakened Being

4. No news of Raki if he managed to break off from Isley+Priscilla.

5. Human Raki still with the antagonists and am still practising his swordmanship.

Well....which options do you all like? :lol:

pigpie

09-07-2007, 05:15 PM

Well,maybe they can add a twist.

Raki is working undercover for the Organisation and apparently he was sent to help Clare to awaken her true power (on par with or higher than Teresa Power),and later sent to track Isley,get Priscillas' trust make Priscilla kill Isley,sent Priscilla to Clare,Clare kills Priscilla,Raki gets sent back to Org,Pisses of Clare,clare destroys Org with help if all the Claymores who abandoned and Boom Boom Boom,Raki gets killed,Priscilla gets killed.Riful I not sure what happen to her,she got blown by a strong wind and start to disassemble becoming one long gigantic strip of no return and becomes a material to make Claymore swords

hollywoodlou

09-07-2007, 06:15 PM

Why are u guys talking about that crybaby?

Hynavian

09-07-2007, 06:20 PM

Why are u guys talking about that crybaby?

Buddy check out my Number 2 option for Raki. The one where he killed himself while practising sword. (Its ridiculous! I was laughing while typing it.)

Well we figured that we should give that kid some credit and started speculating his future <=== Like some sage like characters in those fairy tale stories.

PS: I have to stay up real later tonight as Im doing some stuff. Hence, I'll be around in the forums to haunt you all :eban:

hollywoodlou

09-07-2007, 06:39 PM

My guess is:

1. Raki got eaten by someone somehow.

2. Raki killed himself accidentally while practising with his sword.

3. Raki became a Claymore/Awakened Being

4. No news of Raki if he managed to break off from Isley+Priscilla.

5. Human Raki still with the antagonists and am still practising his swordmanship.

Well....which options do you all like?

Raki becomes a yoma so Clare kills him. This would be in the same vein as Miria not knowing she killed Hilda.

chezkimo

09-07-2007, 06:42 PM

LOL. Yep, that was funny Prezzy. To be honest i wouldn't be surprised if that happened. probably thinking about clare too much. if it's #5 though, i'll be pissed. after seven years still acting like a kid and practising your sword. and like ur avatar prezzo, cool and kinda scary too.

by the way, just thinking about this. say if ophelia never met clare but somehow clare still got split from raki. would ophelia be sent to Peita as well? i mean she may be #4 and therfor valuble to keep alive but i mean she IS alot of trouble. and if she got sent to Peita, what do you think would happen.

OMG, imagine if ophelia with the other 7 seven survived and became a deserter with them. coz i mean, she did get her head twisted once and then she killed that AB and then just twisted back into place. Inhuman or what. I bet she'd be like fused to clare, alwyas acting like clare's her play thing and alwsys getting alittle too close for comfort just to freak her out. lol. but ofcourse over those seven years of survival she'd of developed a less murderous and less rageful personality.

It would be better than her awakeneing and getting killed that's for sure.

hollywoodlou

09-07-2007, 06:53 PM

MacenKrace

09-07-2007, 06:57 PM

chezkimo

09-07-2007, 07:01 PM

hollywoodlou

09-07-2007, 07:18 PM

lol. so true. but knwoing ophelia she would spoil it and dosomething like chop off her arm and then say "can't be strong with just one arm now can ya, pansie!".

and seeing as ophelia is the strongest digit she'd be the leader and probably say something like, ok, everybody huddle into one group and...let the awakened beings eat you. there, my work is done, bye bye."

But i like the idea of those sig things, yep yep. just remember though, i can't make/get good sigs like you guys.

haha good one. Yup, she'd be the leader of the 24 due to her #4 ranking...what disaster!

I know Undine will get in her face, Miria will just stay quiet but her blood will be boiling due to Hilda', and Helen and Deneve will probably rebel as well.

Knowing Ophy, she'll probably be the one to go Rigald on every AB she sees because she HATES AB's, remember? She'd also give Rigald a run for his money.

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dont' worry about the sigs, I;ll provide you some...

Hynavian

09-07-2007, 07:21 PM

by the way, just thinking about this. say if ophelia never met clare but somehow clare still got split from raki. would ophelia be sent to Peita as well? i mean she may be #4 and therfor valuble to keep alive but i mean she IS alot of trouble. and if she got sent to Peita, what do you think would happen.

Hynavian's Bullet form Narration of "Ophelia in Pieta"
- Ophelia headed to Pieta.
- Exchanged words with Miria, Clare and Undine. (EDIT:Changed Miata to Miria)
- Lost the overall commander position to Miria as she was voted out by the majority (Survivor style)
- Became the Captain of a team.
- Exchanged more words with her team members on the first night when they're together.
- Slayed the awakened beings who challenged them on the first night (That 3 scouts awakened beings)
- Challenged Flora to a match as she was jealous of her hairstyle and wanted to test Wind Cutter.
- Got pawned by Flora's Wind Cutter.
- Started crying in the armoury (Just like Undine); remembered her brother; remembered Priscilla; lost herself; and awakened.
- Marched all the way to the whereabouts of Priscilla.
- Met Rigardo and gang along the way as he was leading the underlings and was on his way to eliminate the Claymores.
- Got kicked around by Riagrdo and died. :(
<<The End>>

OMG, imagine if ophelia with the other 7 seven survived and became a deserter with them. coz i mean, she did get her head twisted once and then she killed that AB and then just twisted back into place. Inhuman or what. I bet she'd be like fused to clare, alwyas acting like clare's her play thing and alwsys getting alittle too close for comfort just to freak her out. lol. but ofcourse over those seven years of survival she'd of developed a less murderous and less rageful personality.

If Ophelia did survive the Pieta war, that does not mean that the others can get along with her. It also does not mean that Ophelia will want to hang around with them too.

Further, its impossible for both Miria and Clare to become the "buddies" of Ophelia. Ah, Yuma is at least good in getting along with the others. (Found another good point of Yuma.)

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BTW every week we should change our banners/sigs to the 'CLAYMORE OF THE WEEK'---EVERY WEEK.

let's say next week is Ophelia week...everyone has to have sigs of Ophelia.

just a thought from the co-PREZ of the forum.

Ok good idea. I want to show off my banners and signatures too!
So which character will go first?

hollywoodlou

09-07-2007, 07:40 PM

Hynavian's Bullet form Narration of "Ophelia in Pieta"
- Ophelia headed to Pieta.
- Exchanged words with Miata, Clare and Undine.

Miata??? How did she get there?

- Challenged Flora to a match as she was jealous of her hairstyle and wanted to test Wind Cutter.
- Got pawned by Flora's Wind Cutter.

Rippling sword vs Windcutter? Flora pawns Ophy like Homer Simpson does donuts.

Further, its impossible for both Miria and Clare to become the "buddies" of Ophelia. Ah, Yuma is at least good in getting along with the others. (Found another good point of Yuma.)

Ophy will probably seduce Yuma, being the weakest one and the least confident of the 7, to her dark side.
I have no doubt, Yagi-san has plans for Yuma. She can't be all that GOOFY and gangly.
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BTW, if Cynthia is # 14 and is second ranked only to Miria, shouldn't Cynthia have a more visible and leader-style role among the 7?

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Starting MOnday, it's Clare week...(because I made a Chibi Clare sig...that's why XD). Any objections or changes?

Hynavian

09-07-2007, 08:03 PM

Miata??? How did she get there?

Oh no, typo error! I wanted to say "Miria" instead of "Miata".

BTW, if Cynthia is # 14 and is second ranked only to Miria, shouldn't Cynthia have a more visible and leader-style role among the 7?

Now, you're siding Cynthia because she is cute right ;)
I also questioned Cynthia's role in the pack too. Maybe we can make this our next discussion topic and write our theories on it.

Cynthia appeared to be the first aider in the gang. She and Tabitha were the ones who did first aid to the Claymores whom they had saved in the North (Clarice team mates). Besides this, she also acts something similar to a bait in a battle as she's a defensive type warrior who has good regenration abilities.

However, it appeared that Cynthia is more of a follower instead of a leader. She was obedient towards Veronica. When Veronica told her not to mess up, her reply was "Yes Veronica." (Chpt 53, The War in the North 4) I don't think the others will be that obedient. Imagine saying that to Ophelia, Galatea or Clare. XD

PS: You missed out on the other cute girl (Tabitha <<< I cant seem to spell her name correctly). Maybe we should give her some exposure in the thread too.

Starting MOnday, it's Clare week...(because I made a Chibi Clare sig...that's why XD). Any objections or changes?

Ok, it shall be Clare's week starting monday. However, you have to make a new Clare signature ok :D No cheating by using the Chibi banner that you're now using.

Vermillius

09-07-2007, 08:28 PM

Extra Scene three was interesting. It was one of the things I was really curious about. I don't quite understand what triggered the childhood regression though...because she was acting "normal" until she received that attack. I can't imagine what they have in store for extra scene 4....unless it was the Awakening of one of the Abyssal ones...lol...or how Duph met Riful.

hollywoodlou

09-07-2007, 08:45 PM

Now, you're siding Cynthia because she is cute right
I also questioned Cynthia's role in the pack too. Maybe we can make this our next discussion topic and write our theories on it.

Cynthia appeared to be the first aider in the gang. She and Tabitha were the ones who did first aid to the Claymores whom they had saved in the North (Clarice team mates). Besides this, she also acts something similar to a bait in a battle as she's a defensive type warrior who has good regenration abilities.

You know me very well, co-prez. Well, that's not exactly ENTIRELY it. LOL...well she's cute, what can I say?

If I was 2nd in rank to Miria, I'm going Helen on the Slashers arc on the rest of the 7 but she is decent that she takes orders faithfully from Miria. She'll be a great soldier, no doubt about it. We need defensive types on the 7 and there are 3 already...good balance.

PS: You missed out on the other cute girl (Tabitha <<< I cant seem to spell her name correctly). Maybe we should give her some exposure in the thread too.

She's # 31...too weak BUT not as worse as Yuma BUt she had facetime in the anime, which is good.

Ok, it shall be Clare's week starting monday. However, you have to make a new Clare signature ok No cheating by using the Chibi banner that you're now using.

Heck NO! It's an orig Clare sig and will be on Monday.(or Sunday night my time western hemisphere).
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Extra Scene three was interesting. It was one of the things I was really curious about. I don't quite understand what triggered the childhood regression though...because she was acting "normal" until she received that attack. I can't imagine what they have in store for extra scene 4....unless it was the Awakening of one of the Abyssal ones...lol...or how Duph met Riful.

This just shows the RAW power of Priscilla. It doesn't exactly say if she was defensive NOR offensive warrior on how she was able to regenerate her body quickly.

Accdg to Rigald's observations, that was PURE power that got her to regenerate her body.

Every Abyssal is so high up the food chain that unlike AB's where you cut off their heads and it's game over...Abyssals like Riful CANNOT be killed by taking their heads off. Every molecule of their being forms an unstoppable killing machine.

Unreal

09-07-2007, 09:47 PM

Ah this is going to be my last post about ophelia, gotta change topic.
so just to reply hynavian, i will quote myself abit :P

About flora, her windcutter was no match to irene's quicksword, as irene quicksword is twice as fast, clare's quicksword lack speed because shes a 1/4 yoma and she lack precision and accuracy because she cannot fully control it yet.

Just to remain you guys that flora's windcutter is twice as slow, if you reread the manga, Irene said that giving her arm to clare will give her 1/2 of her own speed, it be awkward to put flora in #8 if she can really beat #4, since if the windcutter is really stronger or comparable to Irene's quicksword, then flora can beat even galatea without sweat, remember that even clare can break awaken beings yoki manipulation, flora will then be #2/3 instead.

If your saying the miria after 7 years that ophelia may still be alive but has not improved then im sure she can beat her

Im trying to say the Miria after 7 years will sure beat ophelia, but anyway not 100% sure, because if ophelia was still alive, she can do alot more trick with her jelly bones, but miria new mirage give her more overrall agility then just raw movement speed and she has more potential.

For Galatea's Yoki reading abilities, in this instance, it will be Galatea being able to read all of Ophelia's attacks. If your attacks are all known by your opponent even before you stike, you won't be able to win in any match ya

Im not sure, because galatea seen to no longer able to use yoki manipulation after she raise her yoki power, it could also affect abit to her sensing abilities, hence teresa switch to speed and strength when she realise she can never sense any priscilla yoki and clare has to lower her yoki to sense ophelia's attack. Not sure if she can block rippling sword attack if she is sensing it and But yea about if galatea more yoki and gain better speed than ophelia, galatea can win.

Unreal

09-07-2007, 09:50 PM

Every Abyssal is so high up the food chain that unlike AB's where you cut off their heads and it's game over...Abyssals like Riful CANNOT be killed by taking their heads off. Every molecule of their being forms an unstoppable killing machine.

:eek:, thats crazy, i wonder if priscilla is even able to reform like T-1000.

hollywoodlou

09-07-2007, 10:10 PM

:eek:, thats crazy, i wonder if priscilla is even able to reform like T-1000.

Riful, as an Abyssal already offered her head to Clare and what exactly did that do? You saw/read what Prissy is able to do once she regenerates...and she wasn't even herself when she fought Isley.
A fully conscious Priscilla should be feared and no Claymore right now has the ability to to even damage her.

An Abyssal is far ahead at least 5 levels above an AB.

chezkimo

09-07-2007, 11:25 PM

You know me very well, co-prez. Well, that's not exactly ENTIRELY it. LOL...well she's cute, what can I say?

Every Abyssal is so high up the food chain that unlike AB's where you cut off their heads and it's game over...Abyssals like Riful CANNOT be killed by taking their heads off. Every molecule of their being forms an unstoppable killing machine.

Yep yep. Just like the prezzo said. think about riful's ability to strip into billions of strips and isley's ability to turn his arms into any wepon. and just look at rigald, he's fromer #2 and isley's former #1. you'd think there powers would be closely matched but no, isley's on a whole another level, 5 more levels is how prezzo put it actually.

Hynavian

09-08-2007, 06:30 AM

NO! It's an orig Clare sig and will be on Monday.(or Sunday night my time western hemisphere).

Ah....ok, Im going to start hunting for a Clare's banner and avatar now. Maybe I will try Captain's way of doing his signature. A row of pretty Clare's snapshot in a row. Can I suggest the next character of the week after Clare's week? (PS: Im sure that EVERYONE will LIKE my suggestion)

This just shows the RAW power of Priscilla. It doesn't exactly say if she was defensive NOR offensive warrior on how she was able to regenerate her body quickly.

Accdg to Rigald's observations, that was PURE power that got her to regenerate her body.

I was shocked when I saw Prsicilla's RAW power in extra scene 3. After reading Extra Scene 3, I totally doubt whether Clare will be able to have her revenge against Priscilla as she's not even able to defeat Riful :( And it seems like another 7 years of training won't help her much too.

On a sidenote, what have I learnt from Extra Scene 3?

I have learnt that Isley gigantic form is definitely bigger than Priscilla's. Is Luciela = Isley's size (as seen in the battle between Isley and Luciela in the South), it also meant that Luciela's awakened form was also gigantic. Now since a puny size Priscilla is able to pawn Isley, it also means that size doesn't matter for the awakened beings in the Claymore world. I also had the impression that the Abyssal ones are presented as gigantic so as to show their prowess. A puny awakened Priscilla completely destroyed that notion of mine.

hollywoodlou

09-08-2007, 06:41 AM

Ah....ok, Im going to start hunting for a Clare's banner and avatar now. Maybe I will try Captain's way of doing his signature. A row of pretty Clare's snapshot in a row. Can I suggest the next character of the week after Clare's week? (PS: Im sure that EVERYONE will LIKE my suggestion)

We have to change our avatar even? I tried to do the Cap's "3inarow' sigs, the signature rule pops out that I can only have 1.

Ok...humor me: who would u want to NEXT...next week? It better not be yuma or I'll demote you to janitor of 1MMCM. haha

I have learnt that Isley gigantic form is definitely bigger than Priscilla's. Is Luciela = Isley's size (as seen in the battle between Isley and Luciela in the South), it also meant that Luciela's awakened form was also gigantic. Now since a puny size Priscilla is able to pawn Isley, it also means that size doesn't matter for the awakened beings in the Claymore world. I also had the impression that the Abyssal ones are presented as gigantic so as to show their prowess. A puny awakened Priscilla completely destroyed that notion of mine.

Size doesn't matter...it's not the size of the opponent you should fear but the size of the fight IN your opponent.
Look what happened to Isley's arm...and Prissy wasn't even serious about it...just pure instinct to defend herself.

Hynavian

09-08-2007, 07:12 AM

We have to change our avatar even? I tried to do the Cap's "3inarow' sigs, the signature rule pops out that I can only have 1.

Ok...humor me: who would u want to NEXT...next week? It better not be yuma or I'll demote you to janitor of 1MMCM. haha

Oh ya now that you have mentioned it, how did Captain placed 3 pictures in a row for his signature? Did he combine all 3 snapshots to merge it as 1?

Ah for next next week........

It will be Raki's Week (I know that you will love it Prezzo, I chose him specially for you!!!) :p

hollywoodlou

09-08-2007, 07:31 AM

:eek:F*** THAT! In that case, screw this sig idea...
You're demoted to janitor of 1MMCM and Chez moves up to co-prez.

Hynavian

09-08-2007, 07:50 AM

:eek:F*** THAT! In that case, screw this sig idea...
You're demoted to janitor of 1MMCM and Chez moves up to co-prez.

Oh no.......I don't want to be a janitor...

Let's continue the sig idea with Clare for the coming week.

Im kidding about the Raki boy sig. I have no idea what cool pictures of Raki can I put up if he ever gets to be the Claymore character of the week. (Snapshots of Raki crying? Lost? Sad?) Im planning on letting Miria taking the spot for the character of the week the week after Clare.

hollywoodlou

09-08-2007, 08:04 AM

Hynavian

09-08-2007, 10:43 AM

Well, I already made a raki sig where's he's crying his eyes out (as useless as ever) within 10 minutes with paint.net, BUT then again Miria after Clare's logical.
But you're still janitor for 24 hours while Chez moves up to co-prez temporarily...as punishment for that bad leadership decision.:lol:

Oh No...Janitor for the day? :lol: Ok, I will do a good job guarding the toilet then.

I have prepared a signature and avatar on Clare and will be loading them tomorrow (Around my time at night).

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Frankly, what do you all think the ending for the Claymore anime will turn out? Do you all think that the anime will end off ambiguously or do you think that the ending will be one there will be mass bloodshed? I don't believe that Madhouse will create a fairytale ending [Isley and Priscilla repent and become nun/monk. Clare and Raki marry and live happily ever after etc] but I do hope that the ending is one where good truimph over evil styled.

Since we're only a few episodes away before the whole anime ends, what do you all think the ending will turn out to be like?

The one who has the closest answer will win the title "Janitor" of 1MMCM. :lol:

chezkimo

09-08-2007, 12:03 PM

wait, wai. i have to be co-prez for a day? yeah right! no way i'm leaving my comfy title of captain even for a day. that's because as captain i have power but no work to do coz i'm not as high as co-prez. muhahahaha.

and yeah, i put all 3 snap shots together to make one picture. and is it me or i've never really noticed the size of irene's elf ears!!! they're huge. she'd not need her claymore to defeat yoma, she'd be able to slash em with her ears. lol. "flash ear strike!"

and the anime ending better be the one where good defeats evil. i'd like that seeing as claymore is a dark fantasy and we've seen alot of great people die. it would be bad if it was a dark ending. that's how i like my stories, dark beginning and middle, good ending. the contrast makes you feel happier at the end.

and to make sure that i will definatly not get that title...ending:
priscilla goes to pieta wanting to see raki, she eats him coz she was feeling abit hungry and the claymore didn;t look tasty. than riful comes along kills both priscilla and isley and eats them giving her more ribon-fantastic power than x-mas rapping time. galatea comes along, with new enhanced super powers, and transfers all remaning yoki of the surviving clamores into clare. and clare awakeneds. clare kills my precious riful (so sad!) and galatea returns her back to normal. then they all use riful as rapping paper and ribons for their x-mas presents and have a looooovly x-mas dinner. THE END. XD

so, what do you think? will it happen?

Hynavian

09-08-2007, 01:30 PM

Oh ya Captain, have you prepared the Clare signature and avatar for next week yet?

Im actually looking forward to the next Claymore anime epsiode as I want to see what Madhouse is about to do to my idol, Galatea. If they're going to march her off to the North to join Miria and gang, I'm cool with it. Its better than not having her appear at all for the next 3 episodes.

Hmm then I think Rafaela might end up being sent to the North too. This will be a good way to end stuff.

Btw, official Claymore posters are coming out in October. Saw some advertisements in Weekly Jump.

chezkimo

09-08-2007, 01:54 PM

no, i havn't. i have more important things to do thaaaaaaaaaankyou! but do not worry, i'll have everything by monday.

and i didn't know galatea would be heading to the north. TBH i doubt she's gonna go. i don't see the reason why. and rafaela is going to go to the south isn't she to give her sister the most warm-heartest welcome a sister could give her before killing them. but what do i know.

:( we have to wait for everything by month. damn these manga authors keeping us in suspense. i waited like forever for all my mangas to coem out, but now i've already read all the stuff i was waiting for.

MacenKrace

09-08-2007, 03:25 PM

On a sidenote, what have I learnt from Extra Scene 3?

I have learnt that Isley gigantic form is definitely bigger than Priscilla's. Is Luciela = Isley's size (as seen in the battle between Isley and Luciela in the South), it also meant that Luciela's awakened form was also gigantic. Now since a puny size Priscilla is able to pawn Isley, it also means that size doesn't matter for the awakened beings in the Claymore world. I also had the impression that the Abyssal ones are presented as gigantic so as to show their prowess. A puny awakened Priscilla completely destroyed that notion of mine.

Size may matter... a puny fast opponent can't be caught by a gigantic strong enemy.

From Extra Scene 3 I have learn that Priscilla is surely the greatest AB alive... I can't wait to see the battle between Clare and Priscilla.

hollywoodlou

09-08-2007, 04:33 PM

wait, wai. i have to be co-prez for a day? yeah right! no way i'm leaving my comfy title of captain even for a day. that's because as captain i have power but no work to do coz i'm not as high as co-prez. muhahahaha.

It's either co-prez for a day or you'll switch with prezzy as janitor.

Im actually looking forward to the next Claymore anime epsiode as I want to see what Madhouse is about to do to my idol, Galatea. If they're going to march her off to the North to join Miria and gang, I'm cool with it. Its better than not having her appear at all for the next 3 episodes.

Galatea will use her yoki controlling powers on Clare the same way she made Clare come back before awakening in the Deepest Purgatory arc. Remember when Clare saved Galatea momentarily and she couldn;t control Irene's arm from awakening? She'll do the same thing next ep, WITHOUT Jean's help because madhouse wants an orig. angle.

chezkimo

09-08-2007, 04:37 PM

very well, i'll be co-prez for a day but just so you know i'll be "ye old co-prez". as not to take the OFFICIAL rank of co-prez. in short for the day i'll be refered as "YOC".

yep, so, call me YOC. Yep, stupid as hell but that's it bye bye

Hynavian

09-08-2007, 04:52 PM

Galatea will use her yoki controlling powers on Clare the same way she made Clare come back before awakening in the Deepest Purgatory arc. Remember when Clare saved Galatea momentarily and she couldn;t control Irene's arm from awakening? She'll do the same thing next ep, WITHOUT Jean's help because madhouse wants an orig. angle.

Ah that will be great as I can see more Galatea in action. Maybe a Clare and Galatea combi versus Isley and Priscilla. The others (Miria and gang) will take on Isley's underlings. It is a pity that we don't get to see Miata and Clarice though :(

Yoo Captain, don't worry about it. I've gotten the janitor position for many hours and am still serving my sentences (in the toilet).

I think this topic has not been discussed before but...

Who do you all think is stronger? Helen or Deneve?

chezkimo

09-08-2007, 04:59 PM

lol. ok then. atleast you're never too far from the bog in case you need to use it.

and deneve is stronger ofcourse. well, that's what i think anyway. and apart from strength i think she's a smarter fighter as well. there is 7 numbers between them and all.

Ah that will be great as I can see more Galatea in action. Maybe a Clare and Galatea combi versus Isley and Priscilla. The others (Miria and gang) will take on Isley's underlings. It is a pity that we don't get to see Miata and Clarice though :(

Yoo Captain, don't worry about it. I've gotten the janitor position for many hours and am still serving my sentences (in the toilet).

I think this topic has not been discussed before but...

Who do you all think is stronger? Helen or Deneve?

hollywoodlou

09-08-2007, 05:03 PM

Ah that will be great as I can see more Galatea in action. Maybe a Clare and Galatea combi versus Isley and Priscilla. The others (Miria and gang) will take on Isley's underlings. It is a pity that we don't get to see Miata and Clarice though

Bigger possibility that Clarice will show up, Miata is doubtful because her character is too deep into the manga and madhouse is too lazy to go there. Clarice will probably have some face time in the last 5 minutes of the ep 26 as epilogue for season 2.

Who do you all think is stronger? Helen or Deneve?

Helen. Personality-wise, it's Deneve who's more tempered BUT Helen is just beginning to scratch the surface on her abilities. My 2 C.

Hynavian

09-08-2007, 06:08 PM

Helen seems to have more power packed in her attacks as compared to Deneve. Or can I say that maybe her moves are more fanciful instead.

Helen has the extendable hand like attacks and now she has mastered Jeane's drill attack. In the area of style, Helen seems to win.

However, Deneve is one who is capable to think rationally in a battle and to use her wits to defeat the opponent (though the opponent can be much more powerful). So far, we are not able to see how useful Undine's 2nd sword is to her. Hopefully we can get to see any of the 7 using their skills soon so that we can judge the extent that they have improved through the years.

hollywoodlou

09-08-2007, 07:42 PM

chezkimo

09-08-2007, 07:46 PM

i think you guys are really underestimating deneve, 7 numbers of difference, y'know. 7!!!
we havn't seen as much action from deneve as helen. in fact we havn't seen that much action from either of them to be honest, so you really can't judge that much to begin with.

and Helen might be more physically stronger because she's offensive and deneve is defensive but i think deneve will be superior to her any many more ways.

hollywoodlou

09-08-2007, 07:55 PM

How is a defensive warrior more superior than an offensive warrior? I know it's like comparing apples and oranges BUT the only thing going for Deneve is quick regeneration (which didn't help her out when she got cut by Rigald BTW) and another sword (which we still have to see her in battle).

Asesino

09-08-2007, 08:16 PM

hollywoodlou

09-08-2007, 08:27 PM

Good point lou...Agreed by asesino =3

But then again we must remember that Rigald/Rigardo was an enemy much superior to the claymore...all of them...so deneve not being able to recover from his attack isnt surprising....I mean he is The Silver Eyed Lion King...If it wasnt for clare's little steroid boost (Thats what I call it...I bet she took some pills right before XD) All those claymore's would have died pityfully...and to imagine he did all of that to the claymore in his ''normal form''....cuz remember he unleashed even more power when fighting clare.

The rest of the 7 should be kissing Clare's behind after what she did to Rigald. Rigald UNFORTUNATELY was TOO EGOTISTICAL & COCKY that he misjudged Clare...so it WAS NOT ENTIRELY Clare's doing that Rigald got his a** kicked.

And btw....The manga for ep 27 was SOOOO much better...in the manga clare kills rigald/rigardo much sexcier... =P

Don't you mean anime EPISODE 23? Or manga chapter 59...

Either way, the manga is far superior and the basis for the anime anyways. Rigald in the manga gets shredded by Clare's AWAKENED Blades" but the anime failed to show that. With a sword? Please.

That means, Jean won't get killed when she sacrifices herself? No wonder Galatea was there in the anime. HMMMMMM.....

chezkimo

09-08-2007, 09:02 PM

the fact that deneve is defensive and helen is offensive really dosn't play a role in this arguement. accept for the fact that helen COULD be stronger than deneve becuase of it. like i said before, really underestimating deneve here. i mean, if there was #5 who was defensive and #12 who was offensive, who do you think would be the better one? same difference in numbers. - seven apart

ofcourse deneve had a hard time dealing with healing with those wounds, did you see the amount of holes she got in her?! helen on the other hand might of died if she receieved those wounds. and helen dosn't have THAT many trciks y'know. she's only got the stretchy thing going on (i'm talking about before the seven years)

and besides, we really havn't seen what deneve can really do full on. i think there's a reason why she's #15 y'know. and i don't think it's coz of cool, clam outer exterior either.

Asesino

09-08-2007, 09:15 PM

That means, Jean won't get killed when she sacrifices herself? No wonder Galatea was there in the anime. HMMMMMM.....

Yea I'm kinda glad that jean doesnt die...simply means she can sacrifice herself later on =P...We know she has no relevance..seeing she is already dead in the manga...she must have a similar purpose in the anime but at a later time...I mean she even says her only reason for living is to repay clare's favor. Tsk tsk Sacrificial Lamb tsk tsk

What I wanna see when the new chaps come out is a more stable clare...not just some girl that goes berserk and gains awesome powers...I mean thats a bit predicatable and quite unimaginative...she gets her *** whooped, then screams for more power and speed...then awakening legs and arms (Thats like some dragonballz shyt -_-;...Although it was awesome XP) I'm hoping more control comes to that aspect...and that she can even do it to more body parts without passing the limit.

Imagine awakening her tongue =D...Ultimate bl0w...or even her coochie...for superior tightness OMG...CLARE FTW =P...(I know my mind is dimented, BUT I TAKE PRIDE IN IT!

-Asesino-

hollywoodlou

09-08-2007, 09:16 PM

Well, if I was Cynthia and ranked # 14, I'm not going to take orders from someone lower than me. The 7 already have 3 defensive warriors in the group...good balance. Don't know about Tabitha though.

The amount of holes isn't the issue, she wasn't able to counteract Rigald's strike, that's the problem. Helen at least, was helping Clare out til the very end.

In the anime, the first AB @Pieta they encountered, the "turtle" AB who could control yoki? The AB struck Deneve twice in the stomach at the same time, regenerated quickly in mid air and was able to "half" cut off the AB's head with Undine's help.

At the Slashers's arc, the AB struck her in the stomach again, but she had a hard time regenerating...there's a contradiction in those 3 events.

Anyways, I'm not getting down on Deneve. She's hot too and has a tight bod.:rolleyes:

Asesino

09-08-2007, 09:23 PM

Why is Irene pale tho :-S...She sickens me...I hope Rafaela did her in..stupid grey, ugly, one handed claymore -_-

-Asesino- o_O; My tummy hurts...Lou....wanna rub it? ;-]

chezkimo

09-08-2007, 09:24 PM

lol. yeah, though i don't think she's hot. i like girls with longer hair.

in any case, yes, those 3 do contradict each other. however, i do believe she is strong. i guess the author just accidently keeps getting her stabbed and making her look bad seeing as she's a good defensive type so she can heal her wounds.

it hapens in many mangas. you've got this more-than-averdedgly good fighter, who is actually quite good/powerful but for some reason they're always getting thier a**es kicked by the bad guys and it conveys such weakness.

like in bleach when we see chad get pawned every single time, feel sorry for him. but he's actually quite strong.

i hate when authors do that.

hollywoodlou

09-08-2007, 09:37 PM

I'm not into the Demi Moore Ghost' style hairdo either. My type is Teresa and Im also a sucker for Irene's long hair. I just said because she's got a tight bod, she's hot.

But in restrospect, they do contradict each other with those 3 instances I gave. Overall, I'm not impressed with Deneve. Because Cynthia is # 14 and also a defensive type, she could beat Deneve, Unfortunately, Deneve is half-awakened like the Slashers 4, so that's the only thing going for Deneve vs Cynthia.

chezkimo

09-08-2007, 10:05 PM

yeah, i get what you mean. but when you think about it we havn't really seen that much of cynthia either have we. i'm sure in one part she got stabbed herself and had to heal. and i know i'm stressing this too much but deneve - 15, helen - 22. it's not even like 3 number difference. it's 7!! no matter how you look at it, except clare, coz she's special, deneve MUST be better than helen. you can't deny it. and it's not like we've seen deneve and helen in action except from when they've been in the proper spot light. where as we've seen ophelia in an extra scene, miria in an extra scene, teresa in an extra scene, all of them kicking butt.

but we havn't seen deneve and helen in extra scenes and really we've only seen them fight 2/3 times the most. we can't judge them like we can the other characters.

anyway, i'm going now. bye bye.

Vermillius

09-08-2007, 10:35 PM

Size may matter... a puny fast opponent can't be caught by a gigantic strong enemy.

From Extra Scene 3 I have learn that Priscilla is surely the greatest AB alive... I can't wait to see the battle between Clare and Priscilla.

It's all about yoki. The one with the greater yoki wins...and Priscilla has the most. Priscilla is indeed powerful, but now having seen the fight, I understand why Isley wanted to get rid of Luciela. Isley himself was able to inflict significant damage on Priscilla, destroying an arm, a horn, and four wings, and impaling her...but he didn't finish her off, and her retaliation was more brutal. If Riful and Luciela teamed up against Priscilla...they would have been able to beat her.

Every Abyssal is so high up the food chain that unlike AB's where you cut off their heads and it's game over...Abyssals like Riful CANNOT be killed by taking their heads off. Every molecule of their being forms an unstoppable killing machine.

Actually, we don't know that for a fact, since we've never seen any of the Abyssal ones decapitated. The only one with extreme regeneration that we know of is Priscilla. Isely appears NOT to have fast regeneration, because he didn't regenerate at all against Priscilla. Luciela wasn't seen regenerating in the fleeting moments of her fight either. We haven't seen Riful or Alicia get hurt yet, so we don't know their rate of regeneration. The only thing we can get from that fight is that regeneration can be done purely by using yoki.

Pansori

09-08-2007, 10:57 PM

I'm all caught up on the manga... I tried to take Holly's advice and read only two scenes a week, but I couldn't. It's like a real good novel, I just could not rest until I saw what happened next. Haven't seen the anime yet, but I'm going to start later tonight... Ok, this may all be old stuff to you guys, but I just wanted to share some random thoughts:

I was surprised at how little time Raki and Clare actually spent together. But obviously they were able to form a strong bond. I had read previously on another forum that a lot of people thought of their relationship as more of a sibling. Even though it seemed to have started out that way, I think it quickly developed into something more. Raki was obviously jealous when that guard kissed Clare (CUTE!) and I LOOVVEEDD the kiss she gave him before they split up. This whole thing with Priscilla being attached to Raki adds an interesting triangle. I can only imagine Priscilla will be seething in jealousy when Raki and Clare are reunited.

Rigardo, or whatever his name is... I thought he was an interesting character. I was bummed that he was killed so quickly, I would have loved to have seen him much more developed.

Riful... love her, she's so wicked. Poor girl just wants some friends and comrades so she can conquer the world. She's pretty sadistic, but her sadism has a purpose. She's not all blood thirsty like that nutcase Ophelia, who killed anything just for the fun of it. I think Riful is probably one of my favorite characters.

The whole group of girls that survived the War... I love them all, especially Miria. I love cunning characters, and Miria is just that. I'm real interested to see how each of the girls have grown in strength.

Miata... poor girl has some serious mommy issues. I have a feeling she's going to lose it and turn on her 47 Mommy.

So we have to wait until November until the next chapter comes out? Why is that? And how popular is Claymore as a whole? I saw here at OM its ranked #5 even though it hasn't had a chp. come out since June.

Anyway, thanks! :)

Unreal

09-08-2007, 11:40 PM

Vermillius is making sense, yoki play the most part in claymore's strength, you guy can't judge just based on there techniques.

Oh if clarice dies, then miata is useless in the plot, but if miata is potential to be number one, shes a real compitition to clare, i think clarice have doubts in the organisation and would side with clare's gang. And if miata can be #1 does that mean alicia have kind of reach her limit, when the watchers says she 95% completed?

chezkimo

09-09-2007, 12:52 AM

erm. i don't think so. but i think alicia is the most powerfullest claymore still WHEN she awakens. Miata is probably more powerful than her when she isn't in her awakened form. i mean she can tear apart yoma with bare hands. the only other claymore that was able to rip apart yoma with no yoki was teresa i think.

however, it's probably her mentallity that keeps her from moving up. i don't think they'll change her position. after all the org. stuck rafaela at #5 when we know she's probably at the same level or maybe higher than beth. #2.

Hynavian

09-09-2007, 03:48 AM

Rigardo, or whatever his name is... I thought he was an interesting character. I was bummed that he was killed so quickly, I would have loved to have seen him much more developed.

Yoo...Rigardo looks cuter in the anime. He has sexier voice and looks sexier (know that you're a babe) :lol:

Riful... love her, she's so wicked. Poor girl just wants some friends and comrades so she can conquer the world. She's pretty sadistic, but her sadism has a purpose. She's not all blood thirsty like that nutcase Ophelia, who killed anything just for the fun of it. I think Riful is probably one of my favorite characters.

Captain chezkimo is also a fan of Riful. Maybe you can discuss some skills based stuff with him. He's an expert when it comes with topics relating to Riful.

So we have to wait until November until the next chapter comes out? Why is that? And how popular is Claymore as a whole? I saw here at OM its ranked #5 even though it hasn't had a chp. come out since June.

Anyway, thanks! :)

OM has separated Claymore Extra Scenes from the Claymore main manga on the site. Well....if you combine them together, will Claymore stand a higher chance in getting a better rank?

Ah reason for November release is because Claymore is moving to a new magazine called "JUMP SQUARE" and its first issue is in November. Claymore is popular but not as popular as the Big4 and pokemon due to certain issues - eg gore, limbs flying around, nuditity of female awakened beings body etc.

Podadam

09-09-2007, 03:50 AM

Big4 and pokemon

Pokemon is still popular in Japan??!! Whats up with that...

hollywoodlou

09-09-2007, 03:52 AM

Actually, we don't know that for a fact, since we've never seen any of the Abyssal ones decapitated. The only one with extreme regeneration that we know of is Priscilla. Isely appears NOT to have fast regeneration, because he didn't regenerate at all against Priscilla. Luciela wasn't seen regenerating in the fleeting moments of her fight either. We haven't seen Riful or Alicia get hurt yet, so we don't know their rate of regeneration. The only thing we can get from that fight is that regeneration can be done purely by using yoki.

Isley didn't have to regenerate because he already realized that he cannot beat Pris. He just stood there with a shishkebab'd Pris on his 'spear" while Priscilla just wept like a 5 year old. He could;ve demonstrated it, BUT instead gave up and submitted to Pris.

the Abyssals are far and beyond the most fiercest creatures in the Claymore world.

And yes, we have seen Riful get her head split...if that's what you defined as decapitation. It just didn't work. On the illustrations alone, decapitation just DOESNT WORK.

Oh if clarice dies, then miata is useless in the plot, but if miata is potential to be number one, shes a real compitition to clare, i think clarice have doubts in the organisation and would side with clare's gang. And if miata can be #1 does that mean alicia have kind of reach her limit, when the watchers says she 95% completed?

First of all, Miata wont be useless in the plot if Clarice suddenly goes "bye bye". Miata CANNOT be # 1 because she's Ophelia's "other" crazy half. She's mentally unstable and who would want a crazy # 1?
The ORG might as well hand over the top spot to Miata as # 1 and Clarice as # 1.5 because those 2 were paired together in the 1st place. Miata CANNOT exist ALONE.

Alicia is already 100% completed as stated in scene 62.

erm. i don't think so. but i think alicia is the most powerfullest claymore still WHEN she awakens. Miata is probably more powerful than her when she isn't in her awakened form. i mean she can tear apart yoma with bare hands. the only other claymore that was able to rip apart yoma with no yoki was teresa i think.

Alicia is ranked # 1 NOt because she's hot, she was ranked and titled the "most powerful # 1 in the annals" by Rubel. (scene 62). Alicia is technically an "Abyssal" and Riful already sensed her presence back at the "deepest Purgatory" arc. Miata has a long way to go...

Hynavian

09-09-2007, 04:09 AM

Pokemon is still popular in Japan??!! Whats up with that...

Erm though the season ended, it has been running for so long (god knows how long) that it has become "popular".

Alicia is ranked # 1 NOt because she's hot, she was ranked and titled the "most powerful # 1 in the annals" by Rubel. (scene 62). Alicia is technically an "Abyssal" and Riful already sensed her presence back at the "deepest Purgatory" arc. Miata has a long way to go...

I agree. Come on everyone, look at Alicia. Do you all think that she's sexy? The #1 spot should be taken by a sexy character like Teresa, Riful, [place one sexy character name here]. There's no way where I will agree that a robotic Alicia is sexy in any aspect.

PS: I think even her awakened form is not-sexy at all.

hollywoodlou

09-09-2007, 04:26 AM

I agree. Come on everyone, look at Alicia. Do you all think that she's sexy? The #1 spot should be taken by a sexy character like Teresa, Riful, [place one sexy character name here]. There's no way where I will agree that a robotic Alicia is sexy in any aspect.

PS: I think even her awakened form is not-sexy at all.

OK...we're not talking about how sexy she is. We're talking about her ranking as # 1. Alicia is # 1 BECAUSE she's the ONLY ABYSSAL amongst the Claymores. PERIOD.

Now going back to sexiness (because Im a guy), if you think Alicia is a 5 (from 1 lowest, 10 highest) you might as well add her sister Beth to make it a 10.
But I agree, my fave of all time Teresa is smokin pssssstttt! Miria is 2nd.

Hynavian

09-09-2007, 04:39 AM

Though Alicia is the strongest Claymore because she has the ability to awaken with the help of Beth, I still find it disappointing that the #1 spot is given to a being who is not sexy and not humane.

Oh coming to one of the earlier points on Jeane. If Clare do not have blade like arms, does that mean that Jeane will not die? Maybe Galatea might appear and help Clare to revert back. Jeane can be useful later as a meat shield for Clare maybe against Isley's projectiles? It'll be an honourable death for her if it ends this way too.

If Madhouse makes some weird ending for Galatea, I'm gonna awakened, run savage in this forum and get myself slained by Prezzo. (Kidding here)

hollywoodlou

09-09-2007, 04:50 AM

Though Alicia is the strongest Claymore because she has the ability to awaken with the help of Beth, I still find it disappointing that the #1 spot is given to a being who is not sexy and not humane.

Obviously something is bothering you that Alicia isn't sexy. Who would you prefer...Rachel OR Alicia? Besides, the # 1 spot was originally Rosemary's, she wasn't good looking either. And "humane"? You mean "human" right? Alicia is coherent judging by her conversation with an ORg mbr at the end of the Deepest Purgatory arc that she can take out Riful "BUT" will die anyways...ergo, she's not a robot either.
Claymores can't be all badass rebels like the 7, Galatea or Irene.

Oh coming to one of the earlier points on Jeane. If Clare do not have blade like arms, does that mean that Jeane will not die? Maybe Galatea might appear and help Clare to revert back. Jeane can be useful later as a meat shield for Clare maybe against Isley's projectiles? It'll be an honourable death for her if it ends this way too.

Looks like it. Maybe Raki will jump in front of Clare's sword.:rolleyes:

If Madhouse makes some weird ending for Galatea, I'm gonna awakened, run savage in this forum and get myself slained by Prezzo. (Kidding here)

How "weird" an ending would you like it to be? What if Galatea went to see Clare and announce they're actually sisters. before the yoma "kidnapped" her and turned chibi Clare into his toy.:cool:

BTW, you're still the janitor for 1MMCM for another 2 hours...lol

Hynavian

09-09-2007, 05:16 AM

Looks like it. Maybe Raki will jump in front of Clare's sword.:rolleyes:

Raki might interfere when Clare and Priscilla is fighting, maybe he might die a glory death. (EG: His dying words might be used to convince Priscilla that she cannot continue as a monster and let Clare kill Priscilla.)

How "weird" an ending would you like it to be? What if Galatea went to see Clare and announce they're actually sisters. before the yoma "kidnapped" her and turned chibi Clare into his toy.:cool:

If its the above ending that you have mentioned, I would definitely awaken and run wide. A "werid" ending would be where Galatea awakens, teamed up with Priscilla+Isley. They then went and kick Clare+gang around and the antagonists (along with Galatea) are the winners at the end of the day. Now that will be a total crappy ending for me.

BTW, you're still the janitor for 1MMCM for another 2 hours...lol

2 more hours of toilet duties? Ok, I'll charge anyone 20 cents per entry if they want to use the toilet.

Pansori

09-09-2007, 05:16 AM

Yoo...Rigardo looks cuter in the anime. He has sexier voice and looks sexier (know that you're a babe) :lol:

WOOT! I'm glad I'm not the only one! Yes Rigardo is a little hottie, and that's one of the reasons I wish they kept him around longer... I know this is minor, but I thought it was kind of interesting that for being such a high rank he maintained his black hair. But what irked me was for being #2 he got pwned way too much!!! :mad:

I've been reading through everyones' posts, but I'm alsmost intimidated to say anything... you guys are so knowledgeable!

Also, thanks for the update! :)

EDIT: Another question... sorry I'm so noobish... but from what the manga implies the Claymores frontal bodies are different from a normal humans... are there theories as to what could be wrong with their bodies? And why did Priscilla's body not seem so unusual when she was walking through the town naked in the Extra Scene 3?

hollywoodlou

09-09-2007, 05:45 AM

EDIT: Another question... sorry I'm so noobish... but from what the manga implies the Claymores frontal bodies are different from a normal humans... are there theories as to what could be wrong with their bodies? And why did Priscilla's body not seem so unusual when she was walking through the town naked in the Extra Scene 3?

It;s not even implied there's something "different" in regards to the Claymore's frontal bodies. There's a PHYSICAL scar, hole etc right between their breasts as partly shown in 2 instances with Teresa (when she was about to be raped by the bandits in the forest) and Ophelia (digging her hands into Clare's breast area and tasted her blood) in the Endless Gravestones arc.
This "point" has got be connected to their transformation from human to Claymores, and should be a 'side effect' of that transformation as well.
The sight of it should be so sickening that the bandits lost their lust for banging Teresa.

Regarding Prissy walking into town naked, obviously she's suffering from an "amnesiac" effect brought upon by earlier events (maybe the TEresa battle). She's walking naked because she "destroyed" 4-5 towns previously, is focused on eating guts and wearing clothes then ripping them apart upon awakening THEN REPLACING THEM isn't exactly on the top of her "feeding" priorities.

Pansori

09-09-2007, 06:13 AM

This "point" has got be connected to their transformation from human to Claymores, and should be a 'side effect' of that transformation as well.

Yeah, I picked up that much.

Regarding Prissy walking into town naked, obviously she's suffering from an "amnesiac" effect brought upon by earlier events (maybe the TEresa battle). She's walking naked because she "destroyed" 4-5 towns previously, is focused on eating guts and wearing clothes then ripping them apart upon awakening THEN REPLACING THEM isn't exactly on the top of her "feeding" priorities.

Well I wasn't really asking why she was walking around naked. I asked why did Priscilla's body not seem so unusual when she was walking through the town naked in the Extra Scene 3? In other words why did no one seem as disgusted with Priscilla's body like the bandits were with Teresa? It seemed to me like some of the guys who were inviting her to their house for food and clothes were a bit on the lecherous side, they didn't seem repulsed at all. I just figured that people would notice something was different about her, or at least be disgusted, the way the bandits were with Teresa's body.

hollywoodlou

09-09-2007, 06:36 AM

Yeah, I picked up that much.

Well I wasn't really asking why she was walking around naked. I asked why did Priscilla's body not seem so unusual when she was walking through the town naked in the Extra Scene 3? In other words why did no one seem as disgusted with Priscilla's body like the bandits were with Teresa? It seemed to me like some of the guys who were inviting her to their house for food and clothes were a bit on the lecherous side, they didn't seem repulsed at all. I just figured that people would notice something was different about her, or at least be disgusted, the way the bandits were with Teresa's body.

Obviously she didn't have the "mark" on her, differentiating herself from Claymores...and she's no Claymore. Even the illustrations didn't show any sign of the "mark" on her, so as an Abyssal, and because they are the highest entities in the Claymore world, she was able to shape her body to human normal form.

Besides, the women in the village must look like dogs so the guys didn't care much about the scar, IF she ever had one.

Tensa Zangetsu

09-09-2007, 07:13 AM

DAAAMMNN! i hardly ever posted since school began! as for the extra scene, it fueld my hatred for isley even more. I hate him! he surrendurs to priscela, makes his men do everything, and isnt even that strong. My fav abysal one was definatly former #1 umm....sister of rafaiel. Sucks she died tho...same wit rigal! he was soo much cooler then isley, plus his human form looked cooler, btw, what if Raki has turned evil? Hasnt he been training under isely for 7 years? Now he and clare "look" the same age, anyone think there gonna get together? (i really dont think that would work due to the claymores dont age thing) wow i had alot to say....

hollywoodlou

09-09-2007, 07:23 AM

I agree that Isley SHOULDN'T have submitted that quickly. When your opponent is a 'crying, psychopath" who couldn't focus her energy with all her conscious might, he should;ve gone all out. Pris was DEFENDING and NOT attacking, and she was purely INSTINCTIVE on her strikes.
Isley was a letdown after I read the ES3.

Hynavian

09-09-2007, 07:34 AM

My fav abysal one was definatly former #1 umm....sister of rafaiel. Sucks she died tho...same wit rigal!

You're a rare case who actually ranked Luciela as your favourite :) I know of many others who are rooting for Riful and Isley.

I agree that Isley SHOULDN'T have submitted that quickly. When your opponent is a 'crying, psychopath" who couldn't focus her energy with all her conscious might, he should;ve gone all out. Pris was DEFENDING and NOT attacking, and she was purely INSTINCTIVE on her strikes.
Isley was a letdown after I read the ES3.

I think Isley maybe wanted an alternate plan where he might get a win-win situation. As Priscilla reacted according to instincts, Isley might have reckoned that he would have gotten teared apart if he attacks her any further. With a child-like mentality, Isley just needed to get to Priscilla's good books so that he can control her (or make use of her). Anyway, it seemed like a losing battle to me for Isley as he had already half of his awakened form destroyed.

Its abit similar to the Clarice-Miata's relationship. Clarice tries to befriend Miata, if all goes well, they become friends. Instead of becoming friends, Miata becomes her "daughter" instead.

hollywoodlou

09-09-2007, 08:11 AM

I think Isley maybe wanted an alternate plan where he might get a win-win situation. As Priscilla reacted according to instincts, Isley might have reckoned that he would have gotten teared apart if he attacks her any further. With a child-like mentality, Isley just needed to get to Priscilla's good books so that he can control her (or make use of her). Anyway, it seemed like a losing battle to me for Isley as he had already half of his awakened form destroyed.

Its abit similar to the Clarice-Miata's relationship. Clarice tries to befriend Miata, if all goes well, they become friends. Instead of becoming friends, Miata becomes her "daughter" instead.

The comparison between Miata/Clarice and Pr/IS is different. It comes down to NEEDS and WANTS. Miata NEEDS Clarice for maternal guidance while Clarice only WANTS to stay alive because she's got a monster who can go bersek one day and kill her.
She said so herself that she FEARS Miata.

Prissy NEEDS guidance to 'find her parents' while Isley WANTS her presence to serve his end game. Isley DOESN'T NEED her but in her child-like state, Isley can manipulate her...until the day we see the same ole Prissy @ the end right after killing Teresa, cold=blooded and sarcastic as ever. So Isley better watch his 6. I would prefer seeing that monster rather than this naked kid walking and killing without any idea what she's doing.

Hynavian

09-09-2007, 02:17 PM

MacenKrace

09-09-2007, 03:04 PM

Riful... love her, she's so wicked. Poor girl just wants some friends and comrades so she can conquer the world. She's pretty sadistic, but her sadism has a purpose. She's not all blood thirsty like that nutcase Ophelia, who killed anything just for the fun of it. I think Riful is probably one of my favorite characters.

What do you mean? Killing is the only reason AB live for and it's funny.

hollywoodlou

09-09-2007, 05:33 PM

Prezzo, I realised that Im having my one week leave when the Claymore anime is at episode 26. Hence, I will get to watch ep26 in a totally relaxing episode. I repeat again, if the ending is crappy, I'll run awakened in the forum. lol

how "crappy" would u want it to be? I already forgave them for a bit when I saw Raki finally getting a dose of reality that he's useless and crying like a sissy...

Tensa Zangetsu

09-09-2007, 06:10 PM

You're a rare case who actually ranked Luciela as your favourite :) I know of many others who are rooting for Riful and Isley.

well truth is, i dont like really any of the abysal ones that much (^-^)' the only evil guy i ever liked was rigal and....well i guess the guy who shoots stakes out of his mouth (dauf?) i dunno why...

Hynavian

09-09-2007, 06:24 PM

how "crappy" would u want it to be? I already forgave them for a bit when I saw Raki finally getting a dose of reality that he's useless and crying like a sissy...

I'm still able to accept Raki's behaviour now as I have decided to close one eye and to accept his defaults. It will be so troublesome and tiring for me to keep shotting projectiles at the Raki character week after week.

Hence, a crappy ending for me will be where the other characters do stuff that is the most unlikely to happen when compared to the manga. Maybe something like Clare sprinting 100m to give Raki a big hug, Helen having one of her extendable arms chopped off, Galatea literally backstabbing Jean, Jeane stabbing Galatea etc would be the few examples that I would give.

well truth is, i dont like really any of the abysal ones that much (^-^)' the only evil guy i ever liked was rigal and....well i guess the guy who shoots stakes out of his mouth (dauf?) i dunno why...

Dauf's skill is definitely a rarity. Maybe that might be the reason why you like him. You seldom get to see an awakened being that shoots projectiles from both his fingers and mouth ya.

hollywoodlou

09-09-2007, 06:41 PM

Hence, a crappy ending for me will be where the other characters do stuff that is the most unlikely to happen when compared to the manga. Maybe something like Clare sprinting 100m to give Raki a big hug, Helen having one of her extendable arms chopped off, Galatea literally backstabbing Jean, Jeane stabbing Galatea etc would be the few examples that I would give.

I would prefer it IF they stick with the program (manga) and quit this ridiculous notion that they're going to wow everyone with their "original" versions. BUT then again, it is intriguing to know that Galatea has something to do with it. I would prefer though to see Clarice have some face time in the end and "count" the # of swords @ Pieta.

MacenKrace

09-09-2007, 08:58 PM

I would prefer it IF they stick with the program (manga) and quit this ridiculous notion that they're going to wow everyone with their "original" versions. BUT then again, it is intriguing to know that Galatea has something to do with it. I would prefer though to see Clarice have some face time in the end and "count" the # of swords @ Pieta.

Won't you rather see Clarice die?

hollywoodlou

09-09-2007, 09:32 PM

Won't you rather see Clarice die?

Nope. Then we won't see any tit sucking scenes.

sempur

09-09-2007, 10:02 PM

I hope that claymore don't have any filters, that would turn it crap. By way anyone knows how Clare would become strong enough to beat Pricilia?

Hynavian

09-10-2007, 02:09 AM

I'm thinking Clare might do her awaken tricks again.

She might perform some awakening like Alicia with someone, probably Galatea, aiding her. Or I'm cool with the full scale awakening while Clare fully awakens and thrash it out with Priscilla. Another possibility that the Big4 (Miria, Helen, Clare, Deneve) all do a semi-awakening to challenge Priscilla. The last option being highly not possible.

hollywoodlou

09-10-2007, 03:15 AM

I hope that claymore don't have any filters, that would turn it crap. By way anyone knows how Clare would become strong enough to beat Pricilia?

Simple...run away. She's no match for that monster at the present time and it's best to train harder (or learn to control Awakening like Alicia) and fight another day.

At the present time, her concentration is all over the place, too emotional, and could barely finish off Rigald.
*****

is it Monday yet?

Hynavian

09-10-2007, 03:52 AM

Yup, its monday morning here for me now =)

It's Clare week for now!

Come let's change banner and avatar to her.

PS: I'm still working on the size of Clare's banner.

solly08

09-10-2007, 03:54 AM

Wats after claymore 73?
when is 74 coming?
or is that a stupid question?

Hynavian

09-10-2007, 03:58 AM

Wats after claymore 73?
when is 74 coming?
or is that a stupid question?

Yup Claymore 74.
Coming out in November.
Neh, don't worry, no questions are stupid :)
Btw, welcome to the thread ^_________________^

hollywoodlou

09-10-2007, 04:08 AM

Yup, its monday morning here for me now =)

It's Clare week for now!

Come let's change banner and avatar to her.

PS: I'm still working on the size of Clare's banner.

Ok...I'll upload in a couple of minutes...It;s monday there? It's only Sunday night here.

You first because technically, it's not Monday yet for me lol

MacenKrace

09-10-2007, 06:35 AM

I hope that claymore don't have any filters, that would turn it crap. By way anyone knows how Clare would become strong enough to beat Pricilia?

Not even Isley could beat Priscilla so do you think Clare has a chance?

Tensa Zangetsu

09-10-2007, 08:25 AM

isley had it won! he just refused to fight any further at the risk of getting more hurt and using her for his own intentions. seriously isely had her pinned down....lame....btw hynavian, when do u sleep?!? i dunno if ur a guy or a girl...ur posts can range from like 12 to six in the morning...or is it just because of ur time shift from where u live?

Kinku

09-10-2007, 09:37 AM

are u kidding me Isley know if they contiue fighting he be ended up dead.... Priscilla needs to get nerf... she uberly overpower. Her only downside Priscilla is like a child in the mind and Isley realize that and use it for his advantage. Kinda like if u cant beat them why not join them

Hynavian

09-10-2007, 12:36 PM

btw hynavian, when do u sleep?!? i dunno if ur a guy or a girl...ur posts can range from like 12 to six in the morning...or is it just because of ur time shift from where u live?

Maybe it is due to the time difference but I'm sleeping at around 2am in the morning as I'm held up with some work stuff. Working with many windows and I keep checking back.

Im not really sure about Isley's true potential as Priscilla is not serious in her fight. She fought and cried at the same time to the extent that it confused Isley. Its tough to bring yourself to kill an opponent who attacks, paused for a while, cries and then attacks again.

Who knows, Priscilla might be worse off if she fought seriously.

nhy390

09-10-2007, 12:41 PM

Hi all, sorry was busy with braai and rugby all weekend. BAd start to the world cup :(

Internet up and working now, so hopefully I will be able to contribute a little more when you are all online!

Im not really sure about Isley's true potential as Priscilla is not serious in her fight. She fought and cried at the same time to the extent that it confused Isley. Its tough to bring yourself to kill an opponent who attacks, paused for a while, cries and then attacks again.

I doubt that Isley and Rigardo have the kind of compasion to care 2 ticks about whether or not their opponent is crying! I think they would happily have destroyed her if they could have.

Someone mentioned earlier on that Abyssal Ones cannot be killed by cutting their heads off? Where did you get that from? How else would you kill them?

Some Claymore in one of the episodes was yelling for someone to cut the head off and AB before ittransformed. Maybe the trick to taking out these guys is to get them when they are in a vulnerable human form?

urbanlegend9

09-10-2007, 12:45 PM

i hope i can see their tit sucking action on anime! LOL ... i wont prefer hentai...coz it isnt claymore version..T.T i wanna see miata getting onto clarise breast and you know..it makes me wet

urbanlegend9

09-10-2007, 12:56 PM

i wanna see them with voices of sucking and stuffs...not like juz ouch..please take your teeth back miata..i want movements...i hate the anime for not following the manga..spoilers..

pigpie

09-10-2007, 01:15 PM

I think that Clare will be ablle to defeat Priscilla.Priscilla is very emotional as she is still a child,during her days as a Claymore and plus when she awakened,she revert back to a mental state of a little child.In the anime,she was scared of the Yoma energy that Clare released during her fight with Rigardo,so I think that the writer will end it.
By

Making Clare awakens her hands as well since it wasn't present in the anime,and Prisclla will awaken but in the middle of the fight will start to feel Clare power which will give her a nostalgic feeling when she was fighting Teresa,this will affect her fight Plus she is still a kid mentally,so it will be easier to attack Priscilla. I highly doubt Clare will spare Priscilla because she killed the person Clare loved most,and if the writer was to let Priscilla off and i will seriously get very pissed off.The whole show is about Clare finding Priscilla and planning to KILL her.That bastard kid Raki better not intefere,if so Clare should just kill him off too.

I guess the reason why Jean awakened state is a butterfly is because since the writers weren't planning on Jean fighting in her awakened form,they just designed her in a way that is very beautiful to see but not really design to be a fighting kind of awakened being.Now i understand why the artist drew her like that,i mean there is no point in debating how she fights if the artist drew her without the intention of wanting her to fight

Hynavian

09-10-2007, 01:52 PM

The whole show is about Clare finding Priscilla and planning to KILL her.That bastard kid Raki better not intefere,if so Clare should just kill him off too.

Prezzo will love your suggestion on that part about Raki.

I guess the reason why Jean awakened state is a butterfly is because since the writers weren't planning on Jean fighting in her awakened form,they just designed her in a way that is very beautiful to see but not really design to be a fighting kind of awakened being.Now i understand why the artist drew her like that,i mean there is no point in debating how she fights if the artist drew her without the intention of wanting her to fight

I really like the awakened form of Jeane. Her butterfly form is real beautiful :D I think we had a thread somewhere on us speculating what Jeane's mode of attack was. Was hoping that Jeane could be able to shoot projectiles from her beautiful wings :) A pity that we did not see an awakened Jeane in action.

nhy390

09-10-2007, 01:52 PM

By Making Clare awakens her hands as well since it wasn't present in the anime,and Prisclla will awaken but in the middle of the fight will start to feel Clare power which will give her a nostalgic feeling when she was fighting Teresa,this will affect her fight Plus she is still a kid mentally,so it will be easier to attack Priscilla. I highly doubt Clare will spare Priscilla because she killed the person Clare loved most,and if the writer was to let Priscilla off and i will seriously get very pissed off.The whole show is about Clare finding Priscilla and planning to KILL her.

I agree. I think there will definetly be something about Priscilla being able to sense something in Clare related to Teresa. It may work out for Clare as it may confuse her. She will remember the circumstances under which she awoke and she has become what killed her family.

That bastard kid Raki better not intefere,if so Clare should just kill him off too.

HEAR, HEAR!!! Chop him up Rigardo style!

I think the anime will end with Clare fighting Priscilla in some way. Maybe thats why they didnt show her awakening against Rigardo as they may have saved it for the fight with Priscilla. I dont see how they will manage Isley and Priscilla at the same time. I must admit I have little faith in the ending of the anime. It wont be great, it rarely is!

Hynavian

09-10-2007, 02:08 PM

Welcome back nhy!

I'm so excited that Madhouse will be bringing in Galatea for tomorrow's episode. I hope they don't turn her into some disposable thrash though.

Maybe the Clare with blade like hands and legs will come true as Jeane is still around and if Galatea does end up at the war, she can somehow manage to help Clare to revert back to normal too.

nhy390

09-10-2007, 02:26 PM

Welcome back nhy!

Thanks Co-prez (janitor :lol:) Its good to be back!

I'm so excited that Madhouse will be bringing in Galatea for tomorrow's episode. I hope they don't turn her into some disposable thrash though.

where did you hear they are bringing in Galatea?

Maybe the Clare with blade like hands and legs will come true as Jeane is still around and if Galatea does end up at the war, she can somehow manage to help Clare to revert back to normal too.

I hope that is what they are going to do! It would be a nice alternative to the manga. But they are running out of time real quick!

Hynavian

09-10-2007, 02:35 PM

Thanks Co-prez (janitor :lol:) Its good to be back!

My co-president status has been restored already! No more toilets guarding.

where did you hear they are bringing in Galatea?

Neh I didn't hear it, I saw it from the few seconds preview from the last episode. Go re-watch the last few seconds of the previous episode nhy.

I hope that is what they are going to do! It would be a nice alternative to the manga. But they are running out of time real quick!

Yup, the fight Riagrdo really dragged on for way too long and if there's going to be another fight, they will need that many minutes too! You wouldn't want a show down where Clare eliminated Priscilla (or vice versa) in like 5 minutes ya.

There's always the manga to look forward to after the anime :)

:cookies:

pigpie

09-10-2007, 02:37 PM

Galatea appearing in the next episode can be seen from the preview.

I think that Isley will be handled by Alicia and Beth since they were both mentioned in the anime by Miria at episode 11.

Luciella should pop out too,maybe she will be like an extra,pop at the ending credits of the show or something,but than that will leave the people who watches only the Claymore episodes wonder about how Rafaella lose her eyes and many things won't be explained,like if Irene was killed by Rafaella or not.I hope they don't screw the ending up or the whole show will become like Mai Otome,the anime with a lot of loose parts not explained.But than again, my frens who watch the anime are quite blur,they aren't as attentive as us or as dedicated to Claymore as us.Hmmm...I think if people actually like the Claymore anime will go read the manga,more info.

I hope they will do a special OVA mainly for us fans,maybe focus on the sidestory,than we can see Rosemary and Teresa in action and Hilda too(her awakended form is pretty crap if you ask me,a half wrapped up mummy),I cannot be bothered about Priscilla one,Luciella and Rafaella would be great,truth to be told,they are my fav characters in the whole anime,both are cool,okay maybe only Rafaella,Luciella is kinda pathethic.

nhy390

09-10-2007, 03:32 PM

That would make for an interesting ending! Alicia and Beth show up and take on Isley, which leaves the others (Miria, Clare, Deneve, Helene etc) to give Priscilla a good beheading!

I can't see them doing any OVAs though it would be good. Maybe they will bring out the extra scenes as a trest. I think the main idea with the anime was just to gather more readers for the manga. Otherwise they wouldnt have followed the manga so closely up until the last episodes. It is now poorly a matter of them wrapping up the anime. I personally feel they would have done much better with following the manga faithfully up to where the 4 new gen claymores are saved by the 7 in the north, and just leave it at they didnt die and lots can still happen.

I dont think Rafaella is a pathetic character, and I suspect that she will still have an important part to play in the manga. I wouldnt be surprised if she ends up joining the 7 as she surely has an axe (a claymore?) to grind with the orgi after what they did to her and her sister. They surely made her feel guilty and bad enough about it!

hollywoodlou

09-10-2007, 06:00 PM

That would make for an interesting ending! Alicia and Beth show up and take on Isley, which leaves the others (Miria, Clare, Deneve, Helene etc) to give Priscilla a good beheading!

Wont happen. It makes sense in a way because if Madhouse wants to transition the new characters in season 2, say 5 years from now, then bravo to them. BUt I admit I'll get a big kick out that and forgive MH for their screw ups in eps 18-22.

I dont think Rafaella is a pathetic character, and I suspect that she will still have an important part to play in the manga. I wouldnt be surprised if she ends up joining the 7 as she surely has an axe (a claymore?) to grind with the orgi after what they did to her and her sister. They surely made her feel guilty and bad enough about it!

Who said Raphaela is pathetic? Blasphemy! Obviously someone is confusing Raki for Raphaela. Even Rubel told Clare and Jean NOT to even bother fighting her in the woods. She's the most senior of all the Claymores, and BTW she handled/killed her sister and abosrbed some of her Abyssal power, I would place my bets on Raphy anytime.

nhy390

09-10-2007, 06:22 PM

What do you think will happen to Raffaela in the future? Will she be back in the manga as a character or is she done now? I would love to see her join in on beating the org!

hollywoodlou

09-10-2007, 06:37 PM

She got what she wanted...acquiring info on her sister THEN killing her. That was the only reason why she RE-JOINED the Org in the 1st place. Now she doesn't need the ORG. She 's off somewhere like Irene, by the beach, having a margarita.
But it would be a treat if she joined the 7. Unfortunately, she outranks Miria so she could be the leader of the gang and I don't think the other 6 would accept that. Raphy is the type who likes to be left alone, BUt wouldn't mind some company either. She'll probably end up around scene 85, along with Galatea and Irene somewhere co-owning their own hot springs in the mountains...

nhy390

09-10-2007, 07:15 PM

hollywoodlou

09-10-2007, 08:36 PM

She has no ARm, not arms AND I didn't see/read her death death scene...which consisted of a quick shift to Clare immediately in both anime and manga. Offensive warriors CAN regenerate as Miria and Clare have demonstrated time and time again. Even the most peacenik of peaceniks will fight if one's survival is at stake.

nhy390

09-10-2007, 10:42 PM

Yes but didnt they ay she could only regrow an arm that is as good as that of a normal person, not as good as one of a claymore? Why is it she didnt regrow the other one?

Jammerjoint

09-10-2007, 11:30 PM

Yeah....and Clare and Miria never regenerated anything major. They just healed wounds, the most that happened was that they healed their abdomens, both having received heavy injury a few times.

Clare borrowed an arm from Irene, and reattached her hand and legs before. That's it.

No real regeneration, unlike Deneve who's regenerated just about everything at some point.

hollywoodlou

09-10-2007, 11:52 PM

Yes but didnt they ay she could only regrow an arm that is as good as that of a normal person, not as good as one of a claymore? Why is it she didnt regrow the other one?

"they" came from the mouth of Ophelia in the Endless Gravestones arc. Irene didn't grow the "other arm' back because offensive warriors can only attach limbs IF they re-attach QUICKLY. Of course Irene was playing dead so Prissy wouldn't go for the final blow, so there wasn't any time to re-attach that severed arm. The act of attaching limbs was also explained from the get go in the Endless Gravestones arc as Ophelia was taunting Clare to re-attach "quickly" or she'll lose her legs...

Yeah....and Clare and Miria never regenerated anything major. They just healed wounds, the most that happened was that they healed their abdomens, both having received heavy injury a few times.

because IRene SAID SO herself in the Fit for Battle arc scene 38 page 23...

Don't forget that cLare was able to re-attach her ONLY hand upon "rescue" by Irene in the woods...and don't forget that Helen was severely wounded @ with an OPEN SPINE in the Slashers arc...

Unreal

09-11-2007, 12:02 AM

Yes but didnt they ay she could only regrow an arm that is as good as that of a normal person, not as good as one of a claymore? Why is it she didnt regrow the other one?

Point is if Irene regenrate another arm, she will have to release yoma power, which exposes her hiding.

I Doubt rafeala will be around with galatea tho, maybe irene if she still alive, its 50/50, if Irene alive, i bet she has a way to get strengthen her arm.

Btw if the organisation so wanted clare to be brought be back when they galatea after her i9n the first place, why did they in the end send her to sucide in pieta and then never came to retrieve her body?

hollywoodlou

09-11-2007, 12:47 AM

Point is if Irene regenrate another arm, she will have to release yoma power, which exposes her hiding.

I Doubt rafeala will be around with galatea tho, maybe irene if she still alive, its 50/50, if Irene alive, i bet she has a way to get strengthen her arm.

Btw if the organisation so wanted clare to be brought be back when they galatea after her i9n the first place, why did they in the end send her to sucide in pieta and then never came to retrieve her body?

Point well taken on Irene. Irene released her yoki powers in a VERY GOOD HIDDEN LOCATION (mostly an open lake surrounded by high mountains) and because the ORG'S BEST EYE (Raphaela) was on the hunt, that's how both Clare and Irene were discovered. I doubt any other Claymore aside from Galatea could find those 2, even if Irene released her yoki UNintentionally.

On to your Clare question...

When Galatea mentioned "dead or alive" to Clare, Gal meant as PROOF that Galatea did her job and brought her back. She did not. Opting to make an excuse at the end of the Deepest Purgatory' arc that she didn't even bother combing for her remains after "meeting an Abyssal".

Clare, like the others were meant to to be killed in the first place. At the end of the Endless gravestones, the ORG had already dispatched Galatea and were talking about # 47 as an "anomaly", they knew either she had Awakened or worse, became an Abyssal. So they sent Galatea to investigate.

That's why Rubel and Raphaela "spared" those 2. ALL of the 24 accdg to Galatea in scene 62 were sent there to die because they had 'rebellious traits".

Why bother for Raphy to waste her time on both Clare and Jean when Isley and the Northern Army can destroy them w/ minimum effort?

Hynavian

09-11-2007, 02:47 AM

I still dont know what to think about Irene. I am tempted to think she is dead. However, I don't see her coming back. She has no arms and no will to fight! She would be useless! I don't even know why she risked herself to save Clare against Ophelia in the first place.

She can always re-grow 2 normal human arms if she's still alive. I reckon that Irene can be useful whenever she wants to, it's only a matter of will. She could get a Claymore arm just like how Clare gotten hers. There are many ways to get stronger, it's only a matter of whether the cool Irene would want to. Some possible options include getting a Claymore arm from a defensive warrior, getting one from a warrior who had just died not long ago or forcefully getting an arm from another.

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No real regeneration, unlike Deneve who's regenerated just about everything at some point.

Deneve's a monster! Come to think of it she had regenerated almost every part of hers...well except for her head and her legs I guess.

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I Doubt rafeala will be around with galatea tho, maybe irene if she still alive, its 50/50, if Irene alive, i bet she has a way to get strengthen her arm.

You never know, the mangaka is real good in twisting the plot. Who knows...we might find Galatea with Irene and Irene having 2 Claymore hands. (Donated by Galatea) Well, provided if Galatea is willing to donate her beautiful arms to Irene.

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Why bother for Raphy to waste her time on both Clare and Jean when Isley and the Northern Army can destroy them w/ minimum effort?

Agreed. The organisation can kill 2 birds with one stone by sending rebels to the North and by using them to counter the awakened beings of the North. The death of either a Claymore or an awakened being in the war would both be advantagous to the organisation.

Unfair! The Claymores do the fightings while the ugly people of the organisation sit around and earn big money. :mad:

hollywoodlou

09-11-2007, 02:55 AM

She can always re-grow 2 normal human arms if she's still alive. I reckon that Irene can be useful whenever she wants to, it's only a matter of will. She could get a Claymore arm just like how Clare gotten hers. There are many ways to get stronger, it's only a matter of whether the cool Irene would want to. Some possible options include getting a Claymore arm from a defensive warrior, getting one from a warrior who had just died not long ago or forcefully getting an arm from another.

Irene can head to Pieta with Galatea and take her pick on which dead Claymore's arm to attach.
Just make sure it's a "fresh " corpse so attaching limbs will be a piece of cake.

Deneve's a monster! Come to think of it she had regenerated almost every part of hers...well except for her head and her legs I guess.

She's a defensive warrior and a half awakened one....who couldn't regenerate quickly enough when she got struck down by Rigald.

pigpie

09-11-2007, 03:36 AM

nhy...i think you misintepreted,i didn;t say rafaella is pathetic,i said Luciella is pathethic,Rafaella is too cool to be pathethic.

I don't think Rafaella absorb her sister power,the manga didn't state anything bout Claymore being able to absorb power.

Irene should be able to regenerate,maybe she is regenratin very slowly since she is an offensive type,Irene said that it will take months for it to regenerate in the manga Fit for Battle 2.So i think Clare can keep the arm since Irene will have a new arm,although only human.

Maybe Irene can take Floras arm,the skill they used are almost similar.

I find the part about Ophelia not knowing her awakening is very unreal,she used her tail to push Clare into the river,and she has claws that doesn't look like claymores.She even used to attack clare,how can she not notice that her hands have changed

hollywoodlou

09-11-2007, 03:41 AM

nhy...i think you misintepreted,i didn;t say rafaella is pathetic,i said Luciella is patherhic,Rafaella is too cool to be pathethic.

Is patherhic a word? Couldn't find it in the dictionary.

Hynavian

09-11-2007, 03:41 AM

Irene can head to Pieta with Galatea and take her pick on which dead Claymore's arm to attach.
Just make sure it's a "fresh " corpse so attaching limbs will be a piece of cake.

Oh just like what my mum does in the wet market. Heads to the stalls and picked the most alive looking fresh fishes!

:cookies:

She's a defensive warrior and a half awakened one....who couldn't regenerate quickly enough when she got struck down by Rigald.

I totally agree on that. I can't believe that the mangaka made Deneve a crying warrior who needs so much time to heal herself when she was injured by Rigardo's fingernails.

I hope that the Deneve of 7 years later will not be such a disappointment.

PS: Prezzo, your Clare's avatar and signature rock!

hollywoodlou

09-11-2007, 03:57 AM

I totally agree on that. I can't believe that the mangaka made Deneve a crying warrior who needs so much time to heal herself when she was injured by Rigardo's fingernails.

I hope that the Deneve of 7 years later will not be such a disappointment.

I hate that crying wimp "I couldn't even protect Undine...WAAAAAH". I thought Raki was more pathetic. I hope this time having 2 swords isn't just for show.

PS: Prezzo, your Clare's avatar and signature rock!
Today 02:41 AM

Thnx. You check out her eyes?:)

I e-mailed Greg yesterday if he can increase the kb's from 19 to 49 for the avatars. He didn;t think so. Sucks because I made a lot of gif's for avatars.

Hynavian

09-11-2007, 04:04 AM

I hate that crying wimp "I couldn't even protect Undine...WAAAAAH". I thought Raki was more pathetic. I hope this time having 2 swords isn't just for show.

Imagine crying with 2 swords.....She'll end up in the losers team (Leader=Raki) when that happens.

Thnx. You check out her eyes?:)

I e-mailed Greg yesterday if he can increase the kb's from 19 to 49 for the avatars. He didn;t think so. Sucks because I made a lot of gif's for avatars.

Yup I noticed the glow. The Teresa avatar that you had had glowing eyes too. Oh Noo.....how did you make their eyes glow like that?
Did Clare do that in the anime or was it an add-in by you buddy?

pigpie

09-11-2007, 04:34 AM

hollywoodlou

09-11-2007, 04:38 AM

Yup I noticed the glow. The Teresa avatar that you had had glowing eyes too. Oh Noo.....how did you make their eyes glow like that?
Did Clare do that in the anime or was it an add-in by you buddy?

I added it under ImageReady. Gimp also has the option as well.

Imagine crying with 2 swords.....She'll end up in the losers team (Leader=Raki) when that happens.

We need a "crying" Claymore and Deneve fits the bill. Whenever she kills a yoma/AB, she should start crying.

Another bad characteristic of Deneve is she loves kicking Claymores in the stomach area when they're down. She did it twice with Clare when she was bawling over Jean's dead body and she did it to Rachel as well so she could take the pills.

Her new title should be Kicking and Crying Deneve.

hollywoodlou

09-11-2007, 04:41 AM

hollywoodlou

09-11-2007, 04:56 AM

That glow is definitely custom made,can still see the silver lining on Clares eye.

But pres,it is really cool that you were actually able to do that,i tired putting up avatars of Irene but the pics were all too big.Is it by any chance a Clares week.So many Clare avatar(maybe only Pres and Co Pres),why not do some extras,like Claudia or Pamela,those that got ripped in the North War

I think that the part in which Deneve cried is quite neccesary,it is to show that Deneve isn't very cold and has feelings like that of Human,but it is amazing how she can become so close to Undine,they didn't share any special moments together,why is Deneve so close to her.

I also think that Helen character is not very consistent.The part in which Deneve almost awaken to heal her wonds after being injured by the awakened being,Helen wasn't hesitant to kill her but when Clare ask helen to kill her,Helen was very hesitant,does this mean she is closer to Clare because Deneve is always asking Helen to shut up.In the manga

Ok here's my Pamela or Claudia avatar I made where she gets shredded by an AB:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z57/emu77/Claymore-Ownage1.gif

here's 3 when Rigald kills Veronica, Undine and Flora:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z57/emu77/Claymore-Ownage4.gifhttp://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z57/emu77/Claymore-Ownage3.gifhttp://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z57/emu77/Claymore-Ownage2.gif

*****

On Deneve:

I agree that the author wants to show her "softer" side and it's odd that she befriended Undine in the 1st place after trading insults with each other. Methinks that she made friends with Undine because Undine reminded her of herself...cold, hiding beneath a frosty exterior.

On Helen:

She's NOT inconsistent. Helen wanted to kill "awakening" Deneve because as a friend, she would rather do it THAN ANOTHER Claymore who's a stranger.

On Clare, this is a big shift from "high & mighty insulting" Helen who ripped Clare for having Raki as his "toy" TO Pieta where Helen welcomed Clare with open arms.

helen will only befriend people who actually EARN respect like Clare who saved the 4 from death in the Slashers arc. Helen should be closer to Clare because she CRIED when Clare was asking her to take her head off in the manga.

Now that's doubtful in the anime...BUT Helen was standing toe to toe with Clare before she awakened in the anime, so Helen MUST be close to Clare as well.

pigpie

09-11-2007, 07:10 AM

So weird,but when i see the avatars it somehow amuses me,i am sadistic,gosh,But pres,that is not Pam or Claudia,i don't even noe who she is,but the fact that you actually created a gif is prettty cool,because i don noe how to.

I think that Helen went to join Clare because Deneve got a new BFF Undine.I thought that when Undine die her body will revert to her normal and frail self.I hope Jean will survive in the anime mainly because she is COOL.Has any of you watched the latest episode,I can't wait,the anime is actually changing from the manga so what we will get to see in the next few episode will be something fresh for us,I hope Raki don't appear much,his part is like seriously taking up a lot of time,he is either talking crap about protecting Clare or crying away...so boring,to think he is a GUY.

I find ne scene very amusing,the part in which Isley told Raki impotence is a sin(anime) and Isley was pointing the sword at Rakis family jewels(maybe not jewels,maybe just some sissy sperms or some irritants)I think it is Episode 20.So weird,if we were to think any other way(maybe only me),it is quite ironic,Islet is giving Raki advice,telling him impotence is a sin,and if we(MAYBE ONLY ME,AGAIN)were to think a bit off,it is like Raki is going to be castrated by Isley.

hollywoodlou

09-11-2007, 07:34 AM

So weird,but when i see the avatars it somehow amuses me,i am sadistic,gosh,But pres,that is not Pam or Claudia,i don't even noe who she is,but the fact that you actually created a gif is prettty cool,because i don noe how to.

You created your sig, right? I like it.

I think that Helen went to join Clare because Deneve got a new BFF Undine.I thought that when Undine die her body will revert to her normal and frail self.

Irene said "we keep the same form UNTIL we die or change into yoma", so you could be on to something....hmmm.

I hope Jean will survive in the anime mainly because she is COOL.Has any of you watched the latest episode,I can't wait,the anime is actually changing from the manga so what we will get to see in the next few episode will be something fresh for us,I hope Raki don't appear much,his part is like seriously taking up a lot of time,he is either talking crap about protecting Clare or crying away...so boring,to think he is a GUY.

Jean personality-wise is too rigid for my taste.

1) She's like a stalker. She keeps butting into Clare's business like she didn;t have to be there at the Slashers' reunion @ the cave. I hate gate crashers or uninvited guests. PLUS in the anime (stupid version), she butted in AGAIN before Flora and Clare can duel...

2) Her sword technique SUCKS.

Whoever gave her the # 9 spot must be high. If you were on team with Jean, the rest of the team has to fight an AB for the first 5 minutes WHILE she smokes a cigarette and TWIST HER ARM TO # 21.

By the time she twists to # 5, everyone on her team could be dead.

*****

On Raki, you know me...he's giving us dudes a bad name with his love sick odes.

Hynavian

09-11-2007, 09:55 AM

here's 3 when Rigald kills Veronica, Undine and Flora:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z57/emu77/Claymore-Ownage4.gifhttp://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z57/emu77/Claymore-Ownage3.gifhttp://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z57/emu77/Claymore-Ownage2.gif

Noooooooo......Flora......I was moaning real badly when she died. You reminded me of the sadness that I was feeling then. Grr...if only Galatea and Flora could exchange some hairstyle tips :lol:

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I find ne scene very amusing,the part in which Isley told Raki impotence is a sin(anime) and Isley was pointing the sword at Rakis family jewels(maybe not jewels,maybe just some sissy sperms or some irritants)I think it is Episode 20.So weird,if we were to think any other way(maybe only me),it is quite ironic,Islet is giving Raki advice,telling him impotence is a sin,and if we(MAYBE ONLY ME,AGAIN)were to think a bit off,it is like Raki is going to be castrated by Isley.

Eclipse could have used other words to substitute that phrase but they didn't use that phrase wrongly either. Isley acted as a brother figure, something like a "sensei" (teacher) to Raki. Let's hope that Raki will stop his crying in the manga and be a real man after the 7 year gap.

PS: I think we're starting to blur the boundaries of Raki in the anime and Raki in the manga. The Raki in the anime is a 100pc cry baby while the one in the manga is 50pc (IMO). I give the Raki in the manga some credit as his attitude did improve and he cried lesser as the chapters progressed.

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Jean personality-wise is too rigid for my taste.

Ah prezzo don't like babes who are determined (stubborn if negatively put) :lol:

2) Her sword technique SUCKS.
Whoever gave her the # 9 spot must be high. If you were on team with Jean, the rest of the team has to fight an AB for the first 5 minutes WHILE she smokes a cigarette and TWIST HER ARM TO # 21.
By the time she twists to # 5, everyone on her team could be dead.

That's the reason she stayed at #9 and never gotten any higher. Further, the Jeane in the anime was able to twist her arm within a reasonable speed before launching it against Rigardo.

I wondered whether her butterfly awakened form would require her to twist her wings so that she can shoot our projectiles at high velocity. Well...we'll never get an answer anyway with Jeane dead now.

pigpie

09-11-2007, 12:00 PM

I odn't think there is an answer to how Jean attack in her awakened.The artist as i have said must have drawn her with a mentality of focusing more on how she looks like than how she fight and since she isn't going to fight in her awakened state because of her Ultra Strong Willpower*roll eyes*,we cannot see her in action.

But i think by the time she twist her wings finish it would have been ripped off.Jean need to twist 21 times to attack ,she can do it by spinning a few times and boom,attack.

But don;t you guys find it amazing how long her attack can last,i mean she only twisted 21 times and her arms are like spinning at such high speed that i think it has overspun the 21 times that she rotated.

nhy390

09-11-2007, 12:20 PM

Hi again, I think Jean has an awesome attack, though it is easy to block and she is vulnerable when using it, but if it hits, man does it do some damage!!!

Hey guys, which one of the awakened being forms that we have seen so far was the best and which had the coolest abilities? I thought Rigardo was real cool amazing power as well. I love when Miria tries to attack him from behind and gets completely spiked (except for the fact it happened to Miria :( ) The one from the War in the North that can control Yoma energy was cool too! It was pretty sadistic when he had the two low numbers ready to cut each others heads off!!!

Hynavian

09-11-2007, 02:08 PM

But don;t you guys find it amazing how long her attack can last,i mean she only twisted 21 times and her arms are like spinning at such high speed that i think it has overspun the 21 times that she rotated.

Hmm Im not really sure whether she did overspun 21 times as Jeane always got hit and there is little focus on her hands when she is doing the "un-spinnings". Further its hard to count how many times did her hand un-spin though.

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Hey guys, which one of the awakened being forms that we have seen so far was the best and which had the coolest abilities?

To me, the most useful form was Riful's Octopus like awakened form. You can practically do vertical cuts on her (Even her head) and she would not die from the attacks. Further her black ribbon attacks can do both near and far range damage!

However, my impression of Riful changed after I have seen Pricilla in Extra Scene 3. Isley had half of his body destoyed but he was not flinching. That made me reconsider my options. I have not seen Riful having half her body destroyed before, hence, Im not sure how she would performed if she really got damaged that badly. Now, Im thinking Priscilla awakened form is the best though. (Sad, the antagonist has the best form) You can poke holes through her body, cut off her arms and hit her around but she will get back at you (even inflicting more damage than what you did to her) regardless of how you damage her. Now that's a useful form.

To add on, I think Pricilla wings look nice :)

pigpie

09-11-2007, 02:14 PM

nhy390

09-11-2007, 02:32 PM

However, my impression of Riful changed after I have seen Pricilla in Extra Scene 3. Isley had half of his body destoyed but he was not flinching. That made me reconsider my options. I have not seen Riful having half her body destroyed before, hence, Im not sure how she would performed if she really got damaged that badly. Now, Im thinking Priscilla awakened form is the best though. (Sad, the antagonist has the best form) You can poke holes through her body, cut off her arms and hit her around but she will get back at you (even inflicting more damage than what you did to her) regardless of how you damage her. Now that's a useful form.

To add on, I think Pricilla wings look nice :)

Indeed, she does seem to be all powerful, and as Pigpie mentioned it seems a bit **** that she has become this utlra super being no one can defeat! Any one care to speculate on how one would kill her? Maybe if one was able to hit her before she transformed?

pigpie

09-11-2007, 02:49 PM

The part about killing Priscilla is what i thought too,but i think during their transformation,it is almost impossible to go near them because of the yoki energy that is overflowing when the Claymore awakens.The only weakness for her is definitely Raki.

nhy390

09-11-2007, 02:59 PM

I dont know... I think when she is having one of those crying moments and not knowing what is going on around her, a swift chop and off with her head. Otherwise, what you are suggesting is that Raki will be instrumental in defeating her!? That might happen, but I think it will be difficult to know without knowing how he feels about her being a Yoma. And, as we have said many times in this forum, if he doesnt know after 7years, he is a f***ing idiot!

hollywoodlou

09-11-2007, 04:41 PM

Priscilla awakened form is too unfair,too strong,its like she is replacing the role of the strongest character in the anime from Teresa,but than again Teresa is still the strongest to me because some purple skinned ***** went to attack Teresa when her guard was down,and the fact that Teresa spared her life which was very rare and also Teresa tried to shorten Teresa misery by attempthing to behead Priscilla and Priscilla repays her by killing her in such an unglam manner,Teresa didn't even have any last words to say to Clare.I hope Priscilla dies a lond and painful death.

That's why Prissy deserved the most painful death imaginable. On another Claymore forum, there was heated argument that because Prissy is a noob, she doesn;t deserve death and instead...forgiveness BLECHHH

. I dont agree because I believe once you do the crime, you deserve your punishment. She's going to get hers in the end AND I refuse to follow the Claymore series if @ the end, Clare forgives Pris. That's not why I follow the series. call me blood thirsty BUT Claymore is about Clare chasing Pris's head. What makes the series more interesting is how Pris is the ultimate killing machine, no one can stop her right now.

****BTW, credit chibi Clare for turning Teresa into a wuss.

Hi again, I think Jean has an awesome attack, though it is easy to block and she is vulnerable when using it, but if it hits, man does it do some damage!!!

It's not awesome. Again, her teammates have to fight the AB for the first 5 minutes while she whistles and twists to 21. That blows. I could be dead by the time she counts to 3.

And her direct attack is fast and furious BUT that didn't work against a speed freak AB like Rigald.

Ah prezzo don't like babes who are determined (stubborn if negatively put)

I love stubborn babes...NOT STALKER babes like Jean. Stalking and following Clare around is creepy.

nhy390

09-11-2007, 06:40 PM

That's why Prissy deserved the most painful death imaginable. On another Claymore forum, there was heated argument that because Prissy is a noob, she doesn;t deserve death and instead...forgiveness BLECHHH

That sounds pretty rubbish! I agree it would suck if they gave is a p***y ending like that! But, judging by the way things are going, I highly doubt it!

It's not awesome. Again, her teammates have to fight the AB for the first 5 minutes while she whistles and twists to 21. That blows. I could be dead by the time she counts to 3.

And her direct attack is fast and furious BUT that didn't work against a speed freak AB like Rigald.[/QUOTE]

Ill give you that, however, the idea of having 4 claymores together to fight awakened beings is in order to work as a team and give the person with the strongest attack a chance to deal one deadly blow to the opponent! Look at Duph, he was awesome and they were having a hard time beating him. Without Jean's attack they would never have been able to deal sufficient damage to win! We see it as well when the next gen claymores come to the north. There is one of them with a technique that follows the yoma until it is dead. Well, again she had 3 supporters to keep him occupied and prevent him from taking out the strongest claymore. So, I maintain it is an awsome techinique :D

Dragon_fire1995

09-11-2007, 07:12 PM

Eeekk, Thats a cute chibi Clare. XD

I also agree, Priss is a total god-moder and junk. I have the same thoughts you do- if she is forgiven and not killed very painfully, Im gonna be mad. I really liked Teresa, and although that scene was awesome, I am mad at Priss for cutting off her head in such an undignified manner. I mean, cutting off her hands first.. what a cheater.

As for Jeans move, it is pretty cool, even if it does have great weaknesses. It would never work if she was fighting solo, but in a group its cool, doubly so if she has alot of defensive types on her team, who can dodge fatal attacks but get lots of small injuries they can heal well. Its a pretty decent move in my opinion, but could use prefecting.

hollywoodlou

09-11-2007, 08:31 PM

Eeekk, Thats a cute chibi Clare. XD

Hynavian and I have a Claymore week where we change our sigs & avatars to the week's Claymore...this week we chose Clare.

I also agree, Priss is a total god-moder and junk. I have the same thoughts you do- if she is forgiven and not killed very painfully, Im gonna be mad. I really liked Teresa, and although that scene was awesome, I am mad at Priss for cutting off her head in such an undignified manner. I mean, cutting off her hands first.. what a cheater.

That sounds pretty rubbish! I agree it would suck if they gave is a p***y ending like that! But, judging by the way things are going, I highly doubt it!

I have the same thoughts, Prissy had to CHEAT to BEAT Teresa.

Irony of Ironies,,,and she's the most fearsome creature right now in the Claymore world. That b*tch gets what she deserves in the end, hopefully, it'll be gruesome, bloody and VERY painful.

As for Jeans move, it is pretty cool, even if it does have great weaknesses. It would never work if she was fighting solo, but in a group its cool, doubly so if she has alot of defensive types on her team, who can dodge fatal attacks but get lots of small injuries they can heal well. Its a pretty decent move in my opinion, but could use prefecting.

Jean is best suited being A "group warrior"...she needs others to decoy and fight while she winds up 21. Being solo, she CANNOT use her "wind up technique".

maybe if she winds up to 13...(halfway);)

nhy390

09-11-2007, 10:01 PM

hollywoodlou

09-11-2007, 10:20 PM

hahaha, would be funny to see it wound up half way and the half way through the attack it stops!

However, a lot of the claymores excel in team fighting, including our beloved Miria!

Lets hope for that long and painful death, though I have a hard time speculating on how it may happen. Do you think it will end up being a team effort or will Clare somehow manage on her own?

Clare will face Pris ALONE. By the time we reach the end of the series (volume 25 has been confirmed by Yagi-sensei as the last), we don;t know who'll be left standing. One of the Slashers could be dead during that time frame and don't think Yagi-san wont do it. If he could kill characters like Flora, Undine, Veronica and Jean in such a short span, killing Miria, Helen or Deneve won't even make him think twice.

Priscilla's annihilation is the objective of the series, and Clare killing her ALONE would make the circle complete.

....another objective is Raki's demise BUT that's not going to happen either. lol

nhy390

09-11-2007, 10:30 PM

Clare will face Pris ALONE. By the time we reach the end of the series (volume 25 has been confirmed by Yagi-sensei as the last), we don;t know who'll be left standing. One of the Slashers could be dead during that time frame and don't think Yagi-san wont do it. If he could kill characters like Flora, Undine, Veronica and Jean in such a short span, killing Miria, Helen or Deneve won't even make him think twice.

I really hope he doesnt kill off Miria! and if he is going to kill off good characters, I hope they get a better demise than the unfortunate ones in the North Campaign. After all most of them (except Jean) had very short appearances despite being fantastic characters. I hope the likes of Miria, Helen and Deneve will at least go out with a good fight! THough, I am not sure who would be able to take them out easily, though it is possible that Alicia will take out at least one of them.

Priscilla's annihilation is the objective of the series, and Clare killing her ALONE would make the circle complete.

I agree that that will have to happen, though I cannot help thinking that Raki is going to play an important part in it.

....another objective is Raki's demise BUT that's not going to happen either. lol

We should be so lucky! We should have a "Raki's death and Demise Week" with new banners, etc! :eban:

hollywoodlou

09-11-2007, 11:03 PM

I really hope he doesnt kill off Miria! and if he is going to kill off good characters, I hope they get a better demise than the unfortunate ones in the North Campaign. After all most of them (except Jean) had very short appearances despite being fantastic characters. I hope the likes of Miria, Helen and Deneve will at least go out with a good fight! THough, I am not sure who would be able to take them out easily, though it is possible that Alicia will take out at least one of them.

No, NOT Miria for God's sake. Anybody but her...take Deneve. I need her leadership skills and she's hot. And how did you come up with the situation where Alicia kills them?

We should be so lucky! We should have a "Raki's death and Demise Week" with new banners, etc!

Co=prez already had an idea for Raki week next week, but because I hate Raki, I demoted Hynavian to janitor. So for the sake of peace...no Raki, whatsoever.