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The_Real_Hidan
09-05-2007, 04:43 PM
After hearing that awful thing they call Hitsugaya's dub voice? I did. Seriously, he sounds geekier than Isida, though atleast Isida was supposed to be sort of nerdy. I gave up on Naruto's dub thanks to how they portrayed Neji and now this?!
It's like the dubbers are specifically screwing up the voices of my favorite characters in their particular animes. Sub and Manga 4 life, man.

FoRgOtTeN38
09-05-2007, 04:59 PM
i gave up watching the anime altogether

Pansori
09-05-2007, 05:14 PM
Oh, I like Neji's dub... but Hitsugaya's dub is dreadful... and Gin... ah, my poor Gin. He went from a hick accent in the subs to total WASP in the dubs. It's awful.

Hitsugaya
09-05-2007, 05:16 PM
i didnt hear his i want to though

The_Real_Hidan
09-05-2007, 05:19 PM
Oh, I like Neji's dub... but Hitsugaya's dub is dreadful... and Gin... ah, my poor Gin. He went from a hick accent in the subs to total WASP in the dubs. It's awful.

Oh yeah. Funny thing about Gin. My brain literally erased any records of hearing his voice in the dub. No lie, that's just how bad it is. I remember hearing him in the dub, but I can't remember what he sounds like, otherwise I definately would have said something about him.

Hitsugaya
09-05-2007, 05:27 PM
not all is bad just needs some gettin use to

Pansori
09-05-2007, 05:32 PM
Well, I remember before he was dubbed everyone was worried that they would give Gin a hick accent, because apparently in anime, characters with Kyoto accents usually translate to deep southern accent.
Instead, they opted to give him a Katherine Hepburn straight from Connecticut accent. Ugh.
They should've gotten Vic Mignogna to do Hitsugaya. He did such a great job with Ed from FMA (who's seiyu is the same as Hitsugaya).
He's one of the better english VA, anyway.

But as a whole, I haven't been too displeased with the Bleach dubs.

The_Real_Hidan
09-05-2007, 06:01 PM
not all is bad just needs some gettin use to

Well yeah. gin and Hitsugaya are my only complaints, but they're my favorite characters of the Bleach series. I'm just sticking to the Sub and manga from now on.

Yamasta
09-05-2007, 06:17 PM
They should've gotten Vic Mignogna to do Hitsugaya. He did such a great job with Ed from FMA (who's seiyu is the same as Hitsugaya).


Agreed! I was seriously going to suggest that.
A couple of bad voice's doesn't make me want to discontinue watching Bleach, I was just wondering why they replaced Bleach with Blood+ on weeknights.
I always seem to fall a sleep before I watch it on Saturdays. :P

blacklotus47
09-05-2007, 08:51 PM
I watched the show subbed to start with so when I did finally see the dubbed version I was disipointed with most of the voices but anyway it is still way better than the dub job that they did on Naruto. I actually can't watch it in english because the dubbing is so bad.

Pansori
09-05-2007, 09:17 PM
It's a general rule that subs are better than dubs, from anime to films. I also watched the subs of Bleach first, but for the most part Bleach has been doing pretty good with their VA. I think that Johnny Bosch guy makes a real good Ichigo, and I like Rukia's as well (though I've heard several people complain about her VA the most).
Naruto dubs started out painful... freakin' Shino VA, OMG... but they're slowly improving.
The only anime that I can think of that I thought the dub was better was FMA.

Yamasta: I saw an interview with Vic where he said he tried out for Bleach but they initially turned him down. IDIOTS! I think he does the voice for Ikkaku, though.

the man
09-05-2007, 09:42 PM
It's a general rule that subs are better than dubs, from anime to films. I also watched the subs of Bleach first, but for the most part Bleach has been doing pretty good with their VA. I think that Johnny Bosch guy makes a real good Ichigo, and I like Rukia's as well (though I've heard several people complain about her VA the most).
Naruto dubs started out painful... freakin' Shino VA, OMG... but they're slowly improving.
The only anime that I can think of that I thought the dub was better was FMA.

Yamasta: I saw an interview with Vic where he said he tried out for Bleach but they initially turned him down. IDIOTS! I think he does the voice for Ikkaku, though.

jonny young branch a.k.a the green ranger, does a great job as ichigo. come on folk's not every main hero can be voiced by vic monlga a.k.a edward elric.

and i got another question, why do ppl think the FMA dub was the only good dub? the eva dub was real good, bleach is a great dub too. naruto is getting better, hopefully one piece will be better.

Hitsguya's voice is actully good IMO. i mean it kind of fit's him as the kid progdiy of Soul soceity (like Neji is with Naruto!)

gin's voice i got use to, sure i anit like it at frist, but the VA does a good job voicing him.

hn...i really don't care about voice's. it the dialouge that count's. and bleach does a good job at that.

The_Real_Hidan
09-05-2007, 09:47 PM
It's a general rule that subs are better than dubs, from anime to films. I also watched the subs of Bleach first, but for the most part Bleach has been doing pretty good with their VA. I think that Johnny Bosch guy makes a real good Ichigo, and I like Rukia's as well (though I've heard several people complain about her VA the most).
Naruto dubs started out painful... freakin' Shino VA, OMG... but they're slowly improving.
The only anime that I can think of that I thought the dub was better was FMA.


I can think of a few dubs that I like evenly or better than the subs.

Dragon Ball-Dub
Gantz-Dub
DBZ-Dub
Yugioh-Even
Inuyasha-dub
Cased Closed-dub

Just to name a few.

Yamasta
09-05-2007, 09:50 PM
Cased closed and Dragon ball were good, Ikkaku's voice sounds younger than the one in japanese...he's also one I'm not too fond of.

Pansori
09-05-2007, 10:00 PM
jonny young branch a.k.a the green ranger, does a great job as ichigo. come on folk's not every main hero can be voiced by vic monlga a.k.a edward elric.

and i got another question, why do ppl think the FMA dub was the only good dub? the eva dub was real good, bleach is a great dub too. naruto is getting better, hopefully one piece will be better.


Well... I was suggesting Vic for Hitsugaya, not Ichigo.
And it's a matter of preferences about the dubs. FMA is the only dub that stands out to me as being better than the subs.
I'm not saying at all that Bleach is a crappy dub... but a couple of the voices just don't fit the character for me. As a whole, I think Bleach is a very good dub, but I still prefer the subs. And I also think Naruto dubs has gotten better over time.
Someone mentioned Case Closed, and I forgot that one... I do like the Case Closed dubs a LOT... but once again, I prefer the subs.

Hidan: Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. :D
Gantz was one dub I thought was so horrible I couldn't finish it.
I finished the series watching the subtitles.

The_Real_Hidan
09-05-2007, 10:04 PM
Hitsguya's voice is actully good IMO. i mean it kind of fit's him as the kid progdiy of Soul soceity (like Neji is with Naruto!)



But he's more of the lone wolf/one liner type characters. I actually would prefer a deeper voice and definatley less geeky. Neji's dub voice sounded way too nerdy to me. I pictured him with more of a voice like the guy who does Android 17. And Hitsugaya more like Cloud from FF:AC.

The_Real_Hidan
09-05-2007, 10:07 PM
Cased closed and Dragon ball were good, Ikkaku's voice sounds younger than the one in japanese...he's also one I'm not too fond of.

Man, what happened to good dubs like those and a lot of the original toonami shows dub. Sailor Moon, Ruroni Kenshin, Outlaw Star, ect. This was the golden age of dubs where it was like, no character was dubbed wrong. But now... I guess the good dubbers are charging an arm and a leg.

The_Real_Hidan
09-05-2007, 10:09 PM
Hidan: Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. :D
Gantz was one dub I thought was so horrible I couldn't finish it.
I finished the series watching the subtitles.

I'm in shock. Really?!:eek::eek::eek::(

Pansori
09-05-2007, 10:17 PM
Yeah, I watched the first two episodes dubbed and didn't like it. Maybe it was one of those series that starts out not great and gets better as it progresses, but I didn't give it much a chance.
Neji's dub: I LOVE Neji's dub, I actually think it's one of the better dubs. To me, he doesn't sound nerdy at all, but very cool, just how I would imagine him to sound. I think I even like his dub better than the seiyu.

Koura
09-05-2007, 10:20 PM
I really don't have that big of a problem with hisugayas voice but I seriously have a problem kiras I mean what the hell his voice sounds like one of those awful actors from the scifi channel. Also I hated Ukitake and kyorakus voice Ukitakes like my favorite character and they killed him in the dubs same goes for kyoraku he's suposed to have a deaper voice. D:

RhyssaFireheart
09-05-2007, 11:33 PM
I don't mind the dubs for either Bleach or Naruto. Once I got used to the annoying sound of Naruto's EVA, I was okay. To be honest, the JVA wasn't any better sounding, both were annoying as hell.

Shunsui Kyoraku is probably about the worst Bleach EVA I've heard so far. He's supposed to be smooth and a ladies man. That voice just doesn't get me hot and bothered, that's for sure. Maybe the EVA needs some time to get into the role, that's the only thing I can think of.

Gin - I happen to love his EVA, since I think it makes him sound like such and uppity bastiche. I've heard him in Japanese, but I don't know the Japanese dialects to understand how he's supposed to sound like a hick or whatever. All we have to go by is what the fansubbers and translators tell us, tbh. Gin is a slimy sort, the type you wouldn't dare turn your back on. I think his voice conveys that perfectly.

Hitsugaya - he sounds fine to me as well. The EVA comes across as a kid that's trying to sounds more mature than he looks, since Hitsugaya has that whole age thing. He looks like he's 15 and has trouble getting the respect due his rank, so talking like he's older than he really is makes sense. And you can't go wrong with Steve Staley, so don't even go there!

I'm still waiting to pass judgment on Hisagi and Kira, actually. I'm not sure how I like their voices, but they haven't completely grated on me yet. Beyond that, I think all the other EVAs are doing a great job.

gdupninja
09-05-2007, 11:36 PM
yeah they both very annoying. i mean nobody in bleach cast can pronounce japanease wordz. and with naruto its" believe it"

RhyssaFireheart
09-05-2007, 11:42 PM
Naruto hasn't had the "believe it" in a while. They really cut back on that.

And I thought the EVAs were doing a pretty decent job with the Japanese words. Considering they have to learn them phonetically, then make the pronunciation sound natural, and do it so the lip flap matches - that's not bad.

Besides, making fun of the EVAs pronouncing Japanese words means you get to make fun of the JVAs pronouncing English words. They screw them up just as badly, I'm sure. Case in point, try figuring out the words to "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" from the fourth Bleach opening.

Pansori
09-05-2007, 11:58 PM
The american actors pronouncing the Japanese words I don't mind so much. The thing with Gin's accent: One of the distinctive things that is mentioned in most character bios about Gin is his accent. We know that he has something of a hick accent from peoples' description and the way the manga/anime subbers translate his speech. I can't hear his accent either (and being the Gin fangirl I am, I have tried) but I have become accustomed to the idea that he has something of a rube accent.
I think they could have pulled off the broken language that is reflected in the translations without making him sound too much like a redneck.
I was expecting more lazy pronounciations on words... like cap'n, y'all, etc.

Really, though, we should be grateful for the vast improvement in dubs. When I was a kid we had Voltron, and even back then as young as I was, I could see that the dubbing was waaayyy off.
Robotech's dub, however, rocked. :D

tsunade666
09-06-2007, 05:17 AM
the dub sucks I prefer watching the subs voltron is ancient and also about robotech I'm not in the sate of remembering it yet thats way long before

Pansori
09-06-2007, 02:29 PM
Why don't you ever use periods? Between the typos and the lack of punctuation it is very difficult to read your posts. When I read your posts all I can pick up are a series of words randomly strung together that usually makes no sense at all.

Silva
09-06-2007, 03:13 PM
Sorry, but i canīt watch Anime, neither in my own language (German) nor English dubbed

Only Japanese Orig + Subs

bleachigo10
09-06-2007, 09:11 PM
yeah they did screw up hitsugayas voice but i think they got ichigo down perfect but no im not gonna give up on the dub

Akuma564
09-06-2007, 10:28 PM
all i can say is that i cant stand the anime in general

aside from some of ichigo's fights, the frame rate is horrible, not to mention that it's been fillerized

the way Tite Kubo draws just doesnt work in anime, one of the best parts of Bleach is the movie-like style of the manga something the anime just cant copy

ninjahime13
09-07-2007, 07:58 AM
I only watched the first minute. I usually can't stand dubs.
I remember I couldn't find some episodes when I was watching Fullmetal Alchemist before, so I forced myself to watch the dubs. *shudders* XD haha
I usually just stick to the manga for some series.

RhyssaFireheart
09-07-2007, 01:57 PM
I remember I couldn't find some episodes when I was watching Fullmetal Alchemist before, so I forced myself to watch the dubs. *shudders* XD haha
:eek:

Not sure what you were watching, but the FMA dub is widely viewed as one of the best dubs ever. It's fantastic and you're honestly the first person I've ever seen say it wasn't. I've seen even die-hard subbers say that it's a great dub.

x04ty29er
09-07-2007, 03:26 PM
I generally dislike dubs (they don't sound right to me), but I will have to agree that the FMA dub was very well done (very rare to hear that from me about a dub XD). I haven't watched Bleach dubs yet, so I have no comment on those yet.

luciferhellblazer
09-07-2007, 03:42 PM
yeah... that's true... the fma dubs are by far the best...

Pansori
09-07-2007, 05:28 PM
I'm a purist, I usually will choose subs over dubs anyday. But there's no denying the FMA dubs are top of the line.

Darkreaper70
09-07-2007, 06:28 PM
i dont really watch dubs anymore cause they lack the feel of the original jap voices so idk

Tacoman
09-07-2007, 09:03 PM
I like the dub voices they are great voices but i think that Hitsugaya voice is too deep for a kid

Ulquiorra Schiffer
09-07-2007, 10:33 PM
seriously bleach sub really sucks but ichigo's dubbed voice sounds pretty good

tsunade666
09-11-2007, 10:58 AM
dubs sucks I haven't seen.
I haven't seen FMA dubs so I don't know but naruto, one piece and bleach dubs sucks!

EternalFlames
09-12-2007, 02:21 AM
I gave up on the Bleach Dub, cause I coudn't wait every week to see an episode...

Ulquiorra Schiffer
09-13-2007, 02:31 PM
FMA is the best at dub anime i've ever seen, naruto's dub is ok

Pansori
09-18-2007, 06:03 PM
A while ago I read that Johnny Bosch mentioned at an anime convention that he was only doing 50 something episodes of Bleach, and he wasn't sure if he would be continuing. I just heard that Bleach on Adult Swim will be taking a break at the end of October, stopping somewhere in the 50s. This is in combination of another rumor that Viz is giving the Bleach dubbing to another studio.
Which would mean a whole new set of VAs, which would explain why JYB wouldn't be continuing as Ichigo.

None of this has been confirmed yet, though.

Raijuu
09-18-2007, 07:28 PM
oh... that would be sad to hear... but what you mean is they are going to change the people who are making the dub version? and they are going to take it off.... thats not good news.. well i already saw all the episodes so far so.... but its always fun to see the dubbed version for some reason

Pansori
09-18-2007, 09:59 PM
... but what you mean is they are going to change the people who are making the dub version?


My understanding is if Viz gives the dubbing to someone else, then yes, they will get new VA. Although, I don't think I've ever heard of something like that being done (going into a series, and then changing the cast midseason).

I checked the AdultSwim schedule and they are taking the new episodes of Bleach (as well as some other program) out of the Saturday lineup as of mid October.

They scratched out the new Bleach episodes and wrote:

You see that? We just got all top secret on your asses. That means these shows will use deadly force against you whenever they deem it necessary. And that ain't no jive. When you find out what these are, don't go running to your momma. That broad is in our pockets. Hell, we're practically your dads.
PS. They're awesome shows.

I'm bummed the new Bleach dubs are going on hiatus, but I'm always up for a new show. :D

Genjinaro
09-18-2007, 10:54 PM
Its funny, there are a good number VA that could easily fill the cast well & yet hardly any are there. 1-3 maybe.

Off the top of my head, Ganju & Rukia fit ok.

LOL Toshiro's was the oddest fit dubbed on there, bad choice of dubbed VA for him.

Pansori
09-19-2007, 01:02 PM
Found that video where Johnny talks about possibly not dubbing for Bleach anymore. He mentions Deathnote as well...

JYB ani-con interview (http://youtube.com/watch?v=mSWLrp-u_tc)

kyubbifreak30
09-20-2007, 10:09 PM
A while ago I read that Johnny Bosch mentioned at an anime convention that he was only doing 50 something episodes of Bleach, and he wasn't sure if he would be continuing. I just heard that Bleach on Adult Swim will be taking a break at the end of October, stopping somewhere in the 50s. This is in combination of another rumor that Viz is giving the Bleach dubbing to another studio.
Which would mean a whole new set of VAs, which would explain why JYB wouldn't be continuing as Ichigo.

None of this has been confirmed yet, though.

I'm sorry... but what does VA and JYB stand for?.... its prolly something I've heard before(or maybe not)...

Pansori
09-20-2007, 11:46 PM
VA is voice actor, JYB is Johnny Young Bosch, the voice actor for Ichigo. I was being lazy. :)

hyorinmaru2
11-15-2007, 03:46 PM
The english dub isn't bad if you look at previous dubs (naruto i'm looking at you. Apologies to all you naruto fans out there but... come on BELIEVE IT!!! :|) but its not that good either, the voice that irritated me the most was Byakuya's! The english voice actor tried to emulate the japanese voice and failed... badly. After switching to the sub, then going back to english to see how far it had got along i got so incensed i actually had to turn it off.

While i'm saying this i cannot however fault Johnny Yong Bosch's performance as Ichigo, i liked him as Kaneda in Arkira also!

Vbaby22
11-15-2007, 06:40 PM
Yeah, i agree that JYB is doing a great job as Ichigo. But i think the guy doing byakuya is doing a good job too. Rukia's and Inoue's actor fits nice too.

The one i can't stand is Renji's. That is just awful. Along with Torshiro and Canju.

And i am sad to hear that the dub voices might change. I don't want to have to be disgusted all over again.

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