Claymore 3

[Hynavian]

The other "Claymore 2" thread hit 20 pages :)

Means Rafaella is a good younger sister.
orhhh...i am interested in their story,they are like the only sisters who have intelligence as compared to Alicia and Beth who doesn't express any emotions.
Im thinking actually not having any human intellect is a good thing. (if you view it from the organisation's point of view) It will mean a super weapon that obeys all commands of the wielder.

If you pit a super weapon againt lets say, Rafaela and Luciela, the later might be on the losing end as being scared of pain or to feel pain will definitely pit them on the losing side.

[nhy390]

Hey everyone! Finally back again! You guys never let me get any work done with all your writting! It has taken me ages to read through all your stuff... good stuff though!!! Welcome to Pigpie and Dynasty! You have been with us for a shorter time than me and already you have probably posted twice as much as I have pigpie!!! I am humbled in your presence

Co-prez Hynavian: When I read you were banned I was seriously worried that that was the last we would see of you! It was a cliff hanger, similar to Claymore, reading on to see if you would come back!!! I hope you have sorted everything out and this little misunderstanding is well and proper forgotten! Welcome back, and don't leave again

I have a few things to mention. First of all, you passed through the awakened being shapes again, and I think that the shape Clare got was excellent and very fitting! I actually hope we get to see more of it!

As for Beth and her sister: I seriously doubt they should be underestimated in their fighting skills! You dont become the top 2 by sitting around playing mind games. Im sure they can do some serious a**-whooping on their own... and I am sure we will soon!

I was thinking (I know, I know, it is amazing, and it did hurt!) with the whole idea of bringing down the org... Is it really a good idea? Who is going to keep the Yoma in check if the org is gone? THere are not enough of the 7 to keep a whole continent free, and the abyssal ones and awakened beings would be able to run havock and turn the continent into a huge McDonald's!!! McVillage followed by a slurp or McGuts! What do you think?

[pigpie]

Hi nyh390
Bringing down the organisation and letting the 7 run it is a better option,Miria being the top as she is a human Wikipedia of the organisation,ths way they will be more empathatic as they themselves have gone through the loss of loved ones and the pain they faced in becoming claymore,or maybe it will have a dark and ending where Awakened Ones and rule the land all claymores will be force to awaken if they want to live,since it is a dark fantasy,it is highly possible to have a unhappily ever after ending

[Hynavian]

Co-prez Hynavian: When I read you were banned I was seriously worried that that was the last we would see of you! It was a cliff hanger, similar to Claymore, reading on to see if you would come back!!! I hope you have sorted everything out and this little misunderstanding is well and proper forgotten! Welcome back, and don't leave again

Welcome back from your vacation! I would like to apologise for all the inconveniences that I have caused. And its great to be back, definitely :)

I was thinking (I know, I know, it is amazing, and it did hurt!) with the whole idea of bringing down the org... Is it really a good idea? Who is going to keep the Yoma in check if the org is gone? THere are not enough of the 7 to keep a whole continent free, and the abyssal ones and awakened beings would be able to run havock and turn the continent into a huge McDonald's!!! McVillage followed by a slurp or McGuts! What do you think?

Ah with regards to this, there are pros and cons. I think all claymores (lets exclude those without thinking abilites like Miata, Beth etc) definitely knew the pros and cons of having the organisation around. Hence, I presume that this is one of the reasons for them not rebelling? Yes? No? Some answer will help :thumbup:

[nhy390]

I must admit that I dont see the ending being that dark... I hope!:eek:

However, I dont think it is as simple as letting Miria and the others run things! There is surely quite a lot of loyalty, etc involved with the org. Plus I doubt they know how to create new Claymore. AND, we are assuming they would. I think they often seems sad about what they have become and want people to live a human life. They envy it! If that is the case, would they make new claymores? I don't know. I dont think so!

PS: On a completely different note, if anybody is looking for Claymore in the UK, try the Forbidden Planet shop. I havent checked the one in aberdeen yet, but it might have something.

[Hynavian]

However, I dont think it is as simple as letting Miria and the others run things! There is surely quite a lot of loyalty, etc involved with the org. Plus I doubt they know how to create new Claymore. AND, we are assuming they would. I think they often seems sad about what they have become and want people to live a human life. They envy it! If that is the case, would they make new claymores? I don't know. I dont think so!

Imagine Miria being in charge of the organisation.....

Miria: Where's she?
Deneve: Searching for Raki as usual. I have sent Yuma to follow her as usual.

Miria will be busy with monitoring the organisation's duties and have to keep an eye on Clare. Further she will be 2 women down (I treat Claymores as women) as Clare will be always running off and Yuma will be running after her.

:cookies:

[nhy390]

Hey, at least it would help them stay fit! Poor Yuma! I almost feel sorry for her! On the other hand, she might learn a thing or 2 on the way... like how to read a map, or how to follow people around!

@ Hynavian: as for what you said regarding the claymores knowing the pros and cons of the org being around. I am not sure they ask themselves that many questions. From what I gather, most of them are just content with killing yoma. Most of them seem to be there to take revenge for lost friends or family. A lot of personal baggage, that the org capitalises on and the claymores get a chance to get their pay-back

[pigpie]

I agree with you nyh390,the organisation is taking advantage of the situatuion

[Hynavian]

Hey, at least it would help them stay fit! Poor Yuma! I almost feel sorry for her! On the other hand, she might learn a thing or 2 on the way... like how to read a map, or how to follow people around!

Im rooting for Yuma too though I have a gut feeling that she will end up as some sacrificial pawn or something. Maybe her role migt be that of a meat shield for the other 6 and the others will go on with their mission with "We will avenge Yuma" intention always in their minds.

[sempur]

Hehehehe meat shiled? No... think gona be something diferent, maybe vengance with all that die in North war. The organization is very mysterious, why they didn't create some strong claymores to kill abyssal ones, like ten with strength of number one. And i know this sounds...crazy heh

[nhy390]

I dont know about Yuma. I think it is too early to underestimate her. I dont think she would have been kept alive by the author just for the sake of having a useless character around. I suppose she might end up giving her self for the others, but I think no. Lets not forget we are still early in the manga! There is still lots to come, so she may become more important. The story arc of the 7 has only just taken off. If she is not going to be sacrificed, what could be in store for her?

[pigpie]

I personally hope Yuma will become stronger in the chapters to come,maybe she is learning some skills that the survivors do not know of,she has definitely grown stronger over the 7 years and this can be proved by the fact that she was able to,with the help of the survivors of course,defeat the 3 awakened ones that were ambushing Clarice and her gang,and by right 3 awakened ones will require 12 claymores.

[nhy390]

I agree with you pigpie. ANy clues to what she might be able to do? What is a skill that they don't have in the group of 7? They have plenty of good fighters, so probably something else. Any ideas everyone?

[Hynavian]

I have came out with a plausible role for Yuma. <===== You guys/gals will love it and give me a candy after reading the below.

Bullet Form on "Yuma's role"
- One fine day, Yuma was doing some shopping in town.
- Suddenly, she was attacked by a duo.
- It then appeared then the duo were Clarice and Miata.
- Miata had mistken Yuma to be the "strong Claymore". Hence proving that her 6th sense is a totally useless skill.
- Yuma then managed to ally Clarice and Miata and brought the duo to Miria.
- Yuma then became Miata's "god-mother" after Clarice. Hence making herself invincible as long as Miata is around.
- They also made the duo drop the idea of hunting Galatea <==== I dont like the idea that the duo is chasing after the head of my idol so I created some new plot.
- And the Claymores all live happily ever after.

:cookies:

[nhy390]

Hmmmmm, I don't know. I dont want to say it is far-fetched. It is plausible. However, I am not that keen on Miata (or Clarice, too similar to Clare). She is a complete lunatic! I wouldnt trust her further than I could throw her! However, I do like the idea of Yuma maybe becoming the anchor point for one the others when they awaken. However, I am not sure that is possible as it has only worked for the org with identical twins. however, it could be something they have perfected over the 7 years. We might just not have seen it yet as it would probably require a lot of energy which would give them away to the org straight away.

[sempur]

er.... nice. Since is claymore, there always be war. And i think Raki gona turn into (claymore type or something close) yoma, because has human he can do nothing to protect Clare.

[chezkimo]

Hi. Three threads!! That';s gotta say something right there. wlecome back nhy390, hope you had a good vacation.

Lol. Yeah, totally agree with you hynavian. although, miria running the org, i beleive that she'd be able to do it with all her claymore encyclopedia brain and her stratergies.

"alright people, lets round this one up again! plan alpha AKA plan trap and re-capture clare"!

and y'know, seeing as those seven are abit special compared to normal claymore and have good experiences dealing with awakened beings they could be like a *special squad* which are effective with dealing with dangerous awakend being casses.

on the case of Yuma, i definatly don't think that she is weak just becuase she used to be #40. after all, clare was once really week being #47 and look how strong she became before the war of the north and now even more so. if she has developed a new technique i would definatly like to see it. i totally disagree with the meat shield idea. even though she will probably protect her comrades, i doubt that she will die, i doubt any of them will die really unless they come across priscilla or something seeing as they can definatly evade an abyssal one.

the ending is very unpredictable i think, i just hope it's not one of those endings that dosn't resolve anything! and i definatly hope that it's not one of those endings where everybody dies. i want all my fave characters to live INCLUDING galatea. the fact that she rebeled and left the org was just the one reason i needed to like her so much. finally a renegade that alos cares about thier looks and are really pretty!

PS yep, luciela IS the weakest abyssal one i believe


Imagine Miria being in charge of the organisation.....

Miria: Where's she?
Deneve: Searching for Raki as usual. I have sent Yuma to follow her as usual.

Miria will be busy with monitoring the organisation's duties and have to keep an eye on Clare. Further she will be 2 women down (I treat Claymores as women) as Clare will be always running off and Yuma will be running after her.

:cookies:

[nhy390]

@Sempur, I agree with your speculation on Raki. Lets hope it is something descent though!

As for Hynavian's earlier comment, I cannot help but wonder if he knows something...

[Hynavian]

nhy390, I think the relationship between Miata and Clarice is not as simple as it seems. I thought about this for a bit and maybe this seems possible. What do you all think of the below?

From the manga, we can see Miata's reliance on Clarice as she will do whatever she can to ensure Clarice's safety and to obey her orders. From a point of view of a child like Miata, Clarice is her evrything. Even if Clarice asks Miata to challenge Riful, I bet Miata will do it.

It appears that our heroes (Clare, Miria, Deneve, Helen) have the ability to cross over their limits. The same goes for Luciela (tough she forgot to turn back) and Alicia. As seen in the Claymore world, Alicia was able to revert back to her Claymore with the help of Beth and Clare was able to revert back with the help of Raki, Galatea and Jean (before Jeane died). Now, here's the interesting point to ponder....

Let's assume Miata crossed her limit. Clarice, who is everything to Miata would stand a chance to revert Miata back right? And let's say if Miata did awakened, I think she might still treat Clarice as her "mum" and listens to her. So what do you all think?

[nhy390]

You do bring out some interesting point co-prez! I suppose that's why you are the co-prez :D

I dont know about Clarice being able to pull her back. I thought it did require a certain amount of power to be able to do it. When Galatea pulls Clare back after the fight with Duph and Riful, she learnt how to do it no? That's what she said to Jean, that she just attempted to do the same thing. We know that Clarice is very weak, she doesn't even have the silver hair! Would she still be able to do that?

[sempur]

Wow. i wanna see, i agree with Hynavian, all them have little help(or big) to turn back into half form( correct right?). Hmm i think Miata and Clarice going to betray the organization sooner or later, or maybe not having with them Galatea head. Believe that child is "bakemono"(japanese heh ^^)

[chezkimo]

Yes. Yes. I think that clarice somehow reminds Miata has her mother or that there is definatly something about clarice that links to her mother. turning her back saying "miata, young lady, you calm down now or i'll have to punish you, which means no sucky" i think won't work. what would happen however, is that miata will take clarice as a "hostage" and when clarice will try to run miata will just pick her up and force them to be together. And when another yuma/awakened being comes if miata thinks that this yuma may be a threat to clarice she'll surely kill it. and clarice after about a year or two will get used to miata's protection and they'll live happily ever after XD.

i reason i don't think miata would come back over is because the way jean and galatea did it was by alining (sp?) thier yoki. and clare to begin with is only 1/4 yuma. clarice as a "failure" won't have the natural talent of allining one's yoki. also, the only other way to revert back is for the claymore's to be incredibly mentally strong or have an iron will to live, as miria is mentally strong, as well as jean. and helen and deneve have a reason to live also - - each other, as we know those two have a strong bond.

miata is a fruit cake and is as mentally weak...well as new born child. and the only reason why she'd go voer her limit in the first place would be if clarice were to be killed, so then she'd have no will to live really.

as for Yuma though. i think we know her real use. seeing as she follows clare around, i bet you once in a while clare practices her flash sword on her. lol. like she did with jean. i can just imagine it now.
"stay still yuma. i won't to do something"
"what are you gonna do to me"
"*slahs slash*..............Whoops, you're gonna need to sew that up"

[Hynavian]

You do bring out some interesting point co-prez! I suppose that's why you are the co-prez :D
Of course! Being the co-prez is not easy you kow. Coming to that...I think the other co-prez will be shocked when he log in in the morning. (Many pages to read)

I dont know about Clarice being able to pull her back. I thought it did require a certain amount of power to be able to do it. When Galatea pulls Clare back after the fight with Duph and Riful, she learnt how to do it no? That's what she said to Jean, that she just attempted to do the same thing. We know that Clarice is very weak, she doesn't even have the silver hair! Would she still be able to do that?
Coming to that point, Raki is a normal human who managed to pull Clare back :) So I suspose Clarice should be better than Raki though she's a "failure".

[chezkimo]

hey, you guys post so fast *_*, me and Hy literally posted at the same time

[nhy390]

Right, i stand corrected! However, chezkimo has a point as well in that Miata is a fruitcake and might have a hard time coming back!

I agree with Sempur, it would be cool if they all had an achor point to return from awakening/half-awakening.

[sempur]

Strong will to live i guess for someone close to them, i guess heh.

[chakhar86]

hey i'm new here.... but I like claymore verymuch.. but it seems you've already past vol 12 of the manga... so I did'nt follow.... anywhere else I can read the manga?

[nhy390]

Hey chakhar86, and welcome to the forum! Feel free to join in anytime! The manga is still ongoing so weare waiting for the next chapter which doesnt come till November (:() So at the moment we are just speculating and talking about what we would like to happen or not.

[Hynavian]

hey i'm new here.... but I like claymore verymuch.. but it seems you've already past vol 12 of the manga... so I did'nt follow.... anywhere else I can read the manga?

Hi there, welcome to the forum. Make yourself at home.
The One manga main site has the most up to date Claymore chapters. However, you have to do a search for it yourself.

1MMCM members, do not post any links please. For your sake and my sake and everyone's sake :p

[nhy390]

ok, co-prez. Figured that their own website would be ok :o

[pigpie]

Miata will not go over her limits easily,that is because she doesn't fight like other Claymores,she uses her senses and not her yoki power(not as much).Clarice is a failed experiment and her powers are a on and off kind of thing,in the scene in which she was attacked by an awakened one,she couldn't sense yoki for that period of time.

Guys,i saw the scans for the Extra Scene 3,not to reveal too much,but it is how Priscilla met Isley.

[chezkimo]

Hello!!!! New posters! I don't think we've gone past volume 12 (i think that's the most volumes that are uploaded) but if there is and we've gone past it then the full series of claymore so far should be in one manga.

anyway, i'm still ennoyed, i have no way of actually getting the manga by retail seeing as nowhere sells them. and i don't know how to get to nowhere seeing as it's not on the map!

in any case, there should be a seperate orginasation for renegades. and it should go like this:

#1: Miria
#2: Galatea
#3: Clare
#4: Raphaela
#5: Cynthia
#6: Deneve
#7: Helen
and so on and so forth.

[Hynavian]

Captain what about our Claymore nicknames?

I want the Galatea position! Save Teresa for the other co-prez ya.

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EDIT: I do not think that the mangaka will kill off a character like Galatea that easily as he did spend some time developing her character and it would be a waste for Galatea to suffer a 1hit KO from Miata or ,even worse, Clarice.

Im parying real hard that Galatea meets up with Clare and gang so that she can join them. Hmm....but on 2nd thoughts.....do you all think that Galatea will want to join up with Miria and gang? I mean, come on, who will be leader if Galatea is to join? I can't imagine Galatea "obeying the orders of Miria" or socialising with Yuma. Maybe she might be like Clare, doing the disappearing act now and then.

[nhy390]

I really hope Galatea joins up with the 7. What do you guys think are the odds of her surviving?

[pigpie]

Yes,name us.
I wanna be Miria


Galatea won't die so easily,from her character design it is kinda obvious she will live long,she is a No.3 and can manipulate yoki,so she can actually maybe transfer her yoki to another yoma or claymore like how she manipulates Duff,by alligning theirs,so maybe Galatea is really in the town and is manipulating her yoki and transfering it to a yoma hiding in the town,thus what miata is sensing is actually the Yomas energy being manipulated by Galatea,or maybe Galatea knows og Miata hunting her down and manipulating her yoki(her nose) and messing around with her sense of smell.

[chezkimo]

Captain : Riful / Abyssal One
Co-Prezzo : Alicia / Abyssal one
Co-prezzy : Galatea / Power 5
Pigpie : Miria / Power 5

[pigpie]

Oooh...I can be qualified as a power 5?If Ranked power 5 can i switch to Rafaella instead?If possible than i wanna be Rafaella Of Power 5,but if it is too much trouble than Miria Single Digit(No.6) .=)

[chezkimo]

lol. no, you can be any rank you want. if u want miria with the rank of power 5, i can give it to u. just imagine that miria got premoted :)

[Hynavian]

Im just wondering why are we called the power 5? Any significance besides the total number of Claymores that are needed to make up the team of power 5?

pigpie, don't worry, co-prezzo and I are nice people to be with. You can put Miria in power 5 with our characters. However, I don't think that either of our characters will be able to get along with one another though :eek:

Hmmm I can't imagine Galatea chatting with Teresa
Or Teresa chatting with Rafaela
Well maybe Miria might make an effort to chat with the others. hmmm :lol:

EDIT: Captain add your chracter Riful into that official thread too.

[chezkimo]

lol. the power 5, which i named the 5 most power claymores ie. numbers 1 through 5 claymores eg. teresa, priscilla, irene, sopia and her freind (bad memory) would be the power 5 of thier generation. i put this rank power 5 coz it's not fair hainvg the yuma side with the ranking of abyssal one and the claymore side only having ranking of single digit. also, as i recall miria saying, the power 5, even #5 claymore, there is a huge diffeerence in power to number 6 and the other single digits. understand?

by the way, look at my 2nd previous post, you'll see it changed pigpie. this is the post in which will be the official name and ranking post!

EDIT: Yes prezzy, all names and ranks have been added, for everybody else, whoever dosn't gimme name or rank you'r rank will be: Claymore. and all your names will be: MUD

M = Man
U= Utter
D = Damned (as in the damned name and rank)

so what it means is, MAN UTTER THE DAMNED NAME AND RANK!!

[hollywoodlou]

Holy crap...I was just talking to pigpie on page 20 last night and now there's Claymore 3 thread!
Alright...let me just go thru 4 pages...

[hollywoodlou]

Captain : Riful / Abyssal One
Co-Prezzo : Teresa / Power 5
Co-prezzy : Galatea / Power 5
Pigpie : Miria / Power 5

Who's higher...Abyssal or Power 5?:confused:

[chezkimo]

they're at the same level, sigh, i explained this earlier.

abyssal one is just power 5 yoma version

single digit equal to awakened being

claymore equal to yoma

so, you're equal to abyssal one and i'm equal to you. except riful is *special* so it dosn't really count. muhahahahaha.

hear that everyone, only 2 power 5 spaces left and only 2 abyssal ones........but you guys are never gonna xhoose abyssal one coz no one's gonna choose isley or luciela, or alicia (alicia counts as abyssal one and will be only ranked by the yuma highest rank.

[hollywoodlou]

so, you're equal to abyssal one and i'm equal to you. except riful is *special* so it dosn't really count. muhahahahaha.

As long as I'm the highest, I dont mind power sharing. Besides, we BOTh saved co-prezzy's *** from banishment so I'm cool with that.

Teresa/Abyssal...awesome.

[Asesino]

o_O; Sup pplz, I luv the posts u gusy make..finally found ppl I respect and a forum sith thinkg ppl =D <3. Anyways I really dont think that CLaymore is heading for a dark ending due to the ever arising surprises, especially Claire/Clare's releasing of body parts :-|...I WAS LIKE OMFG!!!!!!!!!!..Well played claire xD. Im hoping in theupcoming eps she will be more in control of her yoma releases..making her a force to b reckoned with =P...she took down that Lion King with a few swipes =O...(But its sad...he was kinda kewl)...ISLEY UR UP NEXT !!!!=P Also the kid rocks (her name slips me) the one that is in search of galatea with all those special abilities...''potential #1'' she roxers my boxers =3...iluv that damn kid...but i think she gonna die ='[ Hope i'm wrong though....

Claymore FTW!!!!!!!!!! But they taking too long to release eps 74 +...If anyone got info on release dates...plz msg me or just reply to this post...PLZ!!!!! anything at all...even if u make up a date to make me feel better xP...It's the thought that counts (Jkz)..but 4 reelz though lemme kno if u got info...AND KEEP POSTING <3 CLAYMORE <3

-Asesino- (''') 0(o.O)0 (''') < Hey I'm a monkey =O

[chezkimo]

lol. ok, but if you're gonna choose a claymore than you have to be power 5. you can only have a yoma rank if you are indeed a yoma, or Alicia, becuase she has to be given the rank abyssal one.

unless you want teresa to awaken, if so, send me her awakened form picture and her abilities and i'll put it up with the ranking system and change your ranking to abyssal one. till then you're stuck as power 5. :) enjoy.

EDIT:

Asesino, wlcome to the claymore 3 thread. (we've had 2 threads competed and stuffed!! w00t!)
by the way, saying that claymore is not heading for a dark ending, that makes me feel so much better! and yeah, if it wasn't for her being a fruitcake, miata would be even more awesome!! i mean being able to kill claymore when she's taken on the effect of the anti-yoki pills AND without a claymore is a feat that no other claymore can/has done before. in that sense we should respect her as a warrior. but as a person, she's scary.

if you like claymore alot and are going to be posting frequently in this thread then i'm sure that us, the 1MMCM would'nt mind if you joined us at all.

[Asesino]

Claymore release dates pl0x ;_;...Anyone? Oh and btw what do you think is responsible for Claire's body part releasing?...In my opinion I think because she has Teresa in her that when she asks for power/speed its granted...or something to that effect..maybe im naive =3..But I think its something in relation to teresa/teresa's powers...I styl cry when I watch the ep when that b!tch killed my teresa ;_; WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! ='(

( \_/ )
-Asesino- (^_^) < I'm a bunny =O
(_/'\_)

[Asesino]

@Chezkimo Hey bro...or maybe sis xD...Ty alot for tha welcom ^^ Really appreciate it man and yea..MIata is a sexy beast =O...(But does that make me a perv o_o;..she a kdi right =3) And yea ill humbly accept a position in the 1MMCM =]

But umm....got release dates for ep 74+? or any idea...its been like foodless days for me man...lol Claymore starvation...my tummy hurts x_X. Msg m3h if you do or respond =]...If you dont its kool though...ill continue feeding on these other lame manga tryin to calm my hunger =O....I hear...air gear is decent -_- ...ive finished most manga already and awaiting new eps..i guess i read too much at once *Sigh*

-Asesino- o_O;...

[hollywoodlou]

unless you want teresa to awaken, if so, send me her awakened form picture and her abilities and i'll put it up with the ranking system and change your ranking to abyssal one. till then you're stuck as power 5. enjoy.

Hell no...As the co-prez of 1MMCM, I'm an Abyssal.

Claymore FTW!!!!!!!!!! But they taking too long to release eps 74 +...If anyone got info on release dates...plz msg me or just reply to this post...

OK, I'll repeat... Chapter 74 will be released on November 2, which coincides with the BRAND NEW release of JUmp Square, the new shounen and permanent home of Claymore. On June 2007, Shounen Jump, dropped the series so in the meantime 3 'EXTRA SCENES" were/will be released as a TY to the fans.

Until then, wait for November...
*****

On another topic: I just realized something while re-reading the Witch's Maw.

Isley actually defeated Prissy as explained by Riful but he was love stricken so he allowed her to become his companion. In contradiction to why Isley supposedly "submitted' to Pris as his general later as explained by Riful in scene 72.

hmmmm...did Pris increase her power during all that "down" time?

[Asesino]

Ty for reply hollywoodlou ^_^....and yes I really believe that priss increased dramatically in power because isley did deafeat her but due to riful's comments and the fact that she tried to do away with isley after his battle with luciela (In his weakened state) and she brought duff...i think...and she realised that she & was 'NO MATCH' for priss even with duff...and then isley made statement that as long priss is by his side he is invincible or something to that effect...hence Riful is seeking the help of stronger claymore (When she confronted clare and the other 2 she was pleaing with clare to join)...if my memory serves me right..i havent read claymore in a while..

But I really do believe that Priss has grown in power exponentially, and she was strong to begin with. I maybe wrong though..correct me if so =3

...Sigh..november...I think i'll hibernate still then U_U

-Asesino-....My head hurts as I try to think D-;

[hollywoodlou]

Yup, she's "supposedly" grown stronger. If Riful can sense it, then that's pretty much what can be said of her power.

It only means one thing now...Clare has to become an Abyssal herself to cut Prissy's head. I still havent forgotten that twat for what she did to my precious Teresa.

[Asesino]

I still got nightmare's man XD....Teresa..my precious...she died so...stupidly...we didnt even get to see any of her awakened powers or not even hr eyes changed man while fighting priss....and she was stronger...but she let her guard down...I guess that what she gets for her mistake...These manga writers realli know how to bring grief to pplz ='[...It was like losing family!

And about Clare becoming abbysal one in order to defeat priss....Maybe she will go that far and be able to come back (Though I higly doubt it)...In my opinion I think she will gain the ability to control her releases...along with new skills...that would make her a new breed of a warrior...Half claymore...half abbysal...but stronger than both..xD (....kinda like the lycan/vampire idea of the Underworld/Underworld Evolution...If you've seen it)...or maybe the writers wont make it that simple....This manga is truly enigmatic...<3

[hollywoodlou]

the series has killed off great characters with LOTS of potential. Take Flora, Veronica, Undine, etc...they had short lives, but made quite an impact.
The manga BTW is not a romantic series. It's a tragedy in the same level as a Shakespearean novel. Just because you see a couple of hot chicks in tight unis killing off a yoma, it makes the series simplistic. NO it's not. It's more than that. As a guy, I can live with that though lol.

On Clare becoming an Abyssal, it's going to be a SLOW process and that's the only solution I can come up with that's acceptable. This is not like Raki ruining the anime with his "Clare Ill protect you" mantra. in the middle of the Pieta action.

[Asesino]

Yup im in agreement with the lengthy process of clare...but curious about the events that will occur during this process =]


-Asesino- Claymore ftw =O

[hollywoodlou]

Well before I log off...here's the cover of the LAST EXTRA SCENE to be released next week, so you know who's story it is. Hopefully you read the first 2 extra scenes as well.

http://www.pantip.com/cafe/chalermthai/topic/A5778975/A5778975-0.jpg

[chezkimo]

Hi. Man u guys message fast. i just went to have a bath and came back down there was all this. and i know such a tease! making us wait till november but with so many things unanswered and miata saying about how she sensed a powerful claymore. *Crossing fingers* till to this day hoping it's not galatea that she's found.
extra scenes are good though. even though i only see it as a means to tie me over till the next chapter comes.

BTW, soz hollywoodlou, if you choose a claymore the highest rank you can get is only *Power 5*. unless you be a yoma character. and then you pick any yoma character, eg Dauf, even and have the rank of abyssal one.

says I, ye old captain of this here claymore thread and 1MMCM.

and yep, *sob* so many great characters killed off. even the pretty flora and the willful jean

PS I'M A GUY!

[chezkimo]

oh yh. Asesino. Blue Dragon looks like a good one. good plot i think. have a look.

[Asesino]

Blue dragon huh o_O;...hmmm ty I'll check it out ;-O...and what is this 1MMCM thingy?...coud the leader elaborate on this when he gets on...ty =P



-Asesino- STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!! >=O HAMMER TIME =3

[Unreal]

hi guys, i finally catched up with you guys after 10 days reading your old posts and you guys post so much interesting stuff everyday.

BTw in the manga, chapter 71 didn't riful said that priscilla defeated by isley was a covered up lie, instead he summited her as his general?

And i thought awakened beings can't get any stronger after they awakened.

[hollywoodlou]

Blue dragon huh o_O;...hmmm ty I'll check it out ;-O...and what is this 1MMCM thingy?...coud the leader elaborate on this when he gets on...ty =P



-Asesino- STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!! >=O HAMMER TIME =3

It stands for 1 Manga Mafia Claymore Movement...it was originally 1MCM..1 Manga Claymore Mafia which is better. 1MCM sounds better than 1MMCM, if u ask me.

---the prez

BTw in the manga didn't riful said that priscilla defeated by isley was a covered up lie, instead he summited her as his general?

And i thought awakened beings can't get any stronger after they awakened.

Correct. The extra scene # 3 to be released next week (or is actually out right now) sheds more light on that. If u cant wait...here's the link:http://rs78.rapidshare.com/files/53143422/Claymoreextrascene03.zip

One level up from an Awakened Being is an Abyssal, and usually/normally the # 1 ranked Claymores of previous generations become Abyssals.

[Hynavian]

hi guys, i finally catched up with you guys after 10 days reading your old posts and you guys post so much interesting stuff everyday.

I couldnt stop myself from quoting your message. OMG! 10 days! But....Welcome to the forums, read it everyday so that you can catch up with what we're discussing. We jump real quick from topic to topic at a speed faster than Phantom Miria's.

@Asesino
Welcome to the forums, enjoy your stay here. Im the other co-president of 1MMCM. chezkimo is the captain; darthalvarez the Chairman of forum; nhy390 the Chairman of operations & management. As for pigpie, Im still waiting for prezzo (Hollywoodlou) to come out with some fancy title for him.

Ah I have to run now, will be back later to chat with you guys :)

[Asesino]

Ty ''prez'' ^_^...and u got any where i can see those ''extra scenes'' o_O....free that is xP

-Asesino- ;-O

[hollywoodlou]

Ty ''prez'' ^_^...and u got any where i can see those ''extra scenes'' o_O....free that is xP

-Asesino- ;-O

RS is free dude...just click the free button then DL...BUT you can wait til next week when 1Manga gets the scanlations uploaded.

I'll PM u....

[Asesino]

lolz...ok ty for the welcome but i got one earlier from Chezkimo...if i recall corretly...and its a privilege to be among intelligent ppl who either got good questions or good answers and a good forum over all =P...I think imma like it here xD

Just keep me updated on some claymore/naruto/bleach/one piece news...i read them all to the end and are awaiting new eps :-|...I knwo this a claymore thread but just saying if u guys like anything else and got news on it im all ears O(^_^)O...so ill be trynna answer anything i can help with as well as ask my questions =]

Keep posting <3 Claymore <3

-Asesino- TERESA LOOK OUT!!!!!!!! >=O....damn...too late ='[

[Hynavian]

And i thought awakened beings can't get any stronger after they awakened.

Ah I think they are able to become stronger experience wise. Lets say you're a newbie Claymore with lots of potential but lack the experience....you'll get pawned by yomas though you have the potential to be number 1. Priscilla fits this category...a strong awakened being with zero experience. Maybe she worked on her "experience" area through the years.

On Clare becoming an Abyssal, it's going to be a SLOW process and that's the only solution I can come up with that's acceptable. This is not like Raki ruining the anime with his "Clare Ill protect you" mantra. in the middle of the Pieta action.

Add in the others (Miria, Helen, Deneve) and we have an invincible party! Lets hope they don't fully awaken and tunr on each other. Well, it will be good if Galatea somehow manages to join this elite group of people.

[hollywoodlou]

Add in the others (Miria, Helen, Deneve) and we have an invincible party! Lets hope they don't fully awaken and tunr on each other. Well, it will be good if Galatea somehow manages to join this elite group of people.

I hope Yuma dies...she's useless. Then Galatea takes her place. Leave Cynthia and tabitha alone. They're cute.

[Asesino]

Good point Hynavian..Galatea in this team would be s3xy..she so hawt ;-O <3 Galatea.....

I tried to catch her once you know...sneak up on her...but those god damn abilities ='[

*I sense a h0rny human approaching* :-| *sigh*

-Asesino- GALATEA PLZ HAVE MY BABIES!!!!!!!!!!!!! o.o...or atleast gimmie a one night stand =3

[Hynavian]

Good point Hynavian..Galatea in this team would be s3xy..she so hawt ;-O <3 Galatea.....

I tried to catch her once you know...sneak up on her...but those god damn abilities ='[

*I sense a h0rny human approaching* :-| *sigh*

-Asesino- GALATEA PLZ HAVE MY BABIES!!!!!!!!!!!!! o.o...or atleast gimmie a one night stand =3

A big BOOOOOOOoooo to you for wanting to do Galatea in! Now don't you dare lay your hands on her ok. You can have Raki instead :D

Hmm time for some contructive arguments 1MMCM members.

Lets measure the power the all abyssal ones. Who do you all think is the weakest? And who's the strongest in your opinion.

[Asesino]

...I dont want raki...EWWW xP...Galatea digs me...she just doesnt kwo it yet o_o...

Anyway IMO..Luciela was the weakest, Riful comes next and then Isley...So Isley is strongest in my opinion...im up for correction as always...

Oh...wait u said 1MMCM members :-|...srry ='[

-Asesino-

[Hynavian]

...I dont want raki...EWWW xP...Galatea digs me...she just doesnt kwo it yet o_o...

Anyway IMO..Luciela was the weakest, Riful comes next and then Isley...So Isley is strongest in my opinion...im up for correction as always...

Oh...wait u said 1MMCM members :-|...srry ='[

-Asesino-

You're welcome to comment, captain chezkimo will add you into his list. Btw, start picking a Claymore that you like. That Claymore will act something like your representative in the forum.

So far, Hollywoodlou gotten Teresa
I gotten Galatea
chekimo gotten Riful
pigpie gotten Miria.

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Im thinking Luciela=Isley as both sides did appear to have a tough fight and Luciela ran off maybe from a careless mistake that she has made during battle.

I think Riful definitely might be an equal of Isley or maybe on a higher level as her wits and experience do help her to a certain degree. With regards to EQ, Riful appears to be more intelligent than Luciela. Riful can think rationally unlike Luciela who's worried over her Southern lands. Riful knows when to retreat when she has to.

[Asesino]

you took galatea =[....lolz....ILL TAKE MIATA!!!!!!...i luv that kid =3

And I agree with riful's ability to reason thing out and knowing whats best to do in certain situations etc...its like she got sharingan or sumthing lolz....However its very obvious that priss is on a totally different lvl...because riful and duff/dauf went to take on isley during ''his time of weakness'' and riful withdrew immeadiately...she knows she and duff would be no match for priss so now she gathering stronger claymore...like when she tried to request clair that tym.....so Priss may be the real force to be reckoned with

and i think after clare/clair finds raki her aim will be totally on priss...cuz i mean that was the reason for being a claymore.

SO maybe ur theory is right about Riful and Isley(..though I dont underestimate Isley) but priss maybe in the way...but Luciela is definately the weakest...we agree on that =P


-Asesino- Miata: Is that you mama? o.O

[pigpie]

Hi Aseino

Weakest Abbyssal One

Definitely Luciella,I think that it is because she is like only a newbie compared to the other ancient abbysal one(Riful and Isley)estimated at most she has only been an Abbyssal one for 14 years(Since every change in Arc takes 7 years estimated,and she is before Teresas' Arc)


Strongest Abbyssal One

I guess that Riful and Isley are on par since they have been abbyssal ones for God knows how many decades,and i guess during that time they have reached the top of their abilities already thats why they didn't battle it out because of the same strengths that they have.

[Asesino]

''thats why they didn't battle it out because of the same strengths that they have.''

Not necessarily..you see before priss came along riful and isley were not in any wars..this was stated by riful because isley didnt come on her territory and she didnt go on isley's but when prss drifted to the north and became allied with Isley then isley started getting more awakened beings in order to start taking over the other territories so hence...riful and duff/dauf started capturing more claymores and forcing them to awaken, and join the riful's army...because riful realises that isley with priss and more awakened beings could potentially take all continents and so so started recruiting herself

Then when she tried to kill isley after the battle with luciela she retreated because she realised her and duff's/dauf's power paled in comparison to priss's.

And now riful seeks the help of clare and more powerful claymore/awakened beings (As seen that time when clare rescued those two claymroe from riful and riful asked clare to join...)

So teh reason why riful and isley didnt fight before is because there was no need to fight..being that they was no problem and they were not in eachothers way..and not because of the same strenghts they have.

Oh and ur approximated arcs/time periods are correct...So I'm in agreement with them =P

-Asesino- ..Anyone got bagels and cream cheese plz? o_O;

[hollywoodlou]

Strongest Abbyssal One

I guess that Riful and Isley are on par since they have been abbyssal ones for God knows how many decades,and i guess during that time they have reached the top of their abilities already thats why they didn't battle it out because of the same strengths that they have.

They HAVE to fight it out...it's the nature of the animal kingdom and it's downright territorial.
You can compare it to 2 HS bullies...of course, one of them is going to say, "Im bigger than him, so why do I have to keep beating students on THIS side of the school?" There can only be 1 master, right?

[pigpie]

If there is a fight with the two armys(once Riful has colllected enough which is gonna take like forever),i think Riful will still win,since she is looking for Claymores which specialise in the ability to sense yoki or manipulate,so if Riful can obtain this army,Isleys army and Priscilla will be in total control because ebery single movements of theirs can be read,whils the yoki of the other awakened ones in the Isleys team will be manipulated via their yoki.While all this is happening,Luciella will be rotting away at the riverside most probably with her sister,since Rubel once said that after Rafaella kills her sister,she will find a place for herself to die

[darthalvarez]

ive not read a single post...will do tomorrow but y am I the "captain" of the thread again?

[Asesino]

lol...nice possiblity pigpie that is definately plausible...though reading yoki doesnt make you win the battle...look at when galatea was reading dauf's yoki and manipulating his attacks..all riful did was tell dauf/duff to throw his attacks with more vigor and heart and it worked...he could no longer be manipulated....so i dont think those little trivial things will work against Isley...or even priss.

..maybe it will work on the newb awaken beings that they've gathered

...but remember one of the most powerful awakened beings was killed by clare...remember The lion guy?...who was really kool ='(

I kinda found him kool lolz...but that b!tch had to die though =O..he killed to many of my girls =3

-Asesino-

[hollywoodlou]

ive not read a single post...will do tomorrow but y am I the "captain" of the thread again?

You are the Chairman, not the Captain of the forum. The Captain is Chez.

Luciella will be rotting away at the riverside most probably with her sister,since Rubel once said that after Rafaella kills her sister,she will find a place for herself to die

When Rubel said that, he meant in a condescending way. Rubel hates failures and rebels of the ORG. You actually think Raphy is just going to kill herself? Get Real. She's after the ORG, who BANISHED her then allowed her to serve the ORG just to get info from her sister.
She killed her sister...no need to take orders from Mr. Shades.

ol...nice possiblity pigpie that is definately plausible...though reading yoki doesnt make you win the battle...look at when galatea was reading dauf's yoki and manipulating his attacks..all riful did was tell dauf/duff to throw his attacks with more vigor and heart and it worked...he could no longer be manipulated....so i dont think those little trivial things will work against Isley...or even pr

Winning the battle doesn't only have to depend on ONE perfect skill...it's the combination of everything. Just because RIful recruits Clare and Galatea, she's nuts to think those 2 will tilt the favor for Riful.

[chezkimo]

Ok, Miata is all yours Asesino. and now on about this isley and riful stuff. i talked bout this before actually in the old thread. indeed riful's cooking up summit fishy (i like fish*) with searching for claymore with yoki sensing and manipulation abilities, however, i think she only wants a few amd i don't think her plan is to be able to control alll isley's army, manipulating thier yoki and sensing any movements. however, there is one thing that will probably decide the next battle between isley and riful when they have two armies meet. and that's if riful actually appears on the battle field.

as we know riful's not one to put herself in danger and she could just throw all her forces out into the battle and watch in sescrecy, so she'd get unharmed and when the battle's over she'd go back to her abyss with her BF Dauf. however, if riful goes out there and if pris and isley go to the battle field too then that's big trouble seeing as isley will probably take our Dauf first, then go for Riful and make Pris finish Riful off after a lengthy and tiring battle.

But if it's just riful vs isley like i've also said before it's quite hard to know how that's gonna turn out.

Oh yeah, a coockie for each of you who said that riful was strongest abyysal one from ye captain himself XD

[Asesino]

...Ditto Chez

...Well played Sir XD

Oh when i mentioned galatea and dauf i was just trynna show that yoki sensing/manipulating abilities arent that awesome in battle against powerful and experienced adversaries...and obviously clare and galatea cant decide the fate of the battle...Riful would have to be HIGH to think so xD...she better start taking care of her insurance...and writing a will...... I WANT THE FARMS ON THE CONTINENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the brothels =3

Ty for Miata/Position in 1MMCM ^_^

-Asesino- (>^_^)> Weed plz? o.o <(^_^<)

[pigpie]

I doubt the anime will show the fights between the abbyssal ones,or maybe to rush things,all of them will come and destroy each other on the battlefield with Luciella dying first.She will be chewing and eating Rifuls' Skirt(Blades) and also eating whatever arrrows Isley will be shooting at her,she will become obese and will hae difficulty moving,so she will start rolling like in Katamari and start collecting claymores and buildings and maybe Priscilla before accidentally rolling down the hill,leaving Riful Bladeless (FLASHER) and Isley Body getting smaller because of usauage of too much arrows.

[hollywoodlou]

Oh yeah, a coockie for each of you who said that riful was strongest abyysal one from ye captain himself XD

Sorry Captain...I pick Alicia over Riful.

[darthalvarez]

alright then...give me till tomorrow to catch up o_o

[pigpie]

I pick Alicia over Riful

In this case i think it's because Alicia is very much like a machine,so when she actually fights Riful,she will just go head on,even if it is a scucide attack,whilst Riful is more "human" than Alicia so Alicias' good side is that Riful will be afraid to die or get injured than compared to Alicia.


How many threads does it take to make this Claymore forum appear outside the "other OneManga section"?Like Bleach Or Naruto

[hollywoodlou]

Hollywoodlou (me)

Sorry Captain...I pick Alicia over Riful.

PP:

n this case i think it's because Alicia is very much like a machine,so when she actually fights Riful,she will just go head on,even if it is a scucide attack,whilst Riful is more "human" than Alicia so Alicias' good side is that Riful will be afraid to die or get injured than compared to Alicia.

Bingo. The rest of the 1MCM members see the glass empty with Riful, I see it half full. Alicia will even beat Isley when push come to shove.

Alicia only knows total annihilation of the enemy...no more chit chat unlike Riful.

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How many threads does it take to make this Claymore forum appear outside the "other OneManga section"?Like Bleach Or Naruto

Ask the mods...we're at thread 3 already. We're kicking *** when it comes to posts.

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I forgot, I was watching episode 10 when Galatea was watching the 4 Slashers in the mountains. Galatea's eyes TURNED BLUE when she was concentrating on reading yoki RIGHT AFTER the AB had been slain.

small details...

[nhy390]

Hi everyone, you have as usual been busy bees!!! Welcome to all newcomers, great to see the threat/group growing so quickly!

It looks like Unreal was right in his/her comment. Isley really did have his back-side handed to him by Priscilla (See chapter 71). So Priscilla is definetly the strongest one, followed by Isley, Riful and finally Luciela (though now deceased). I think Riful would really struggle against Isley due to his shear brute strength! Not to be underestimated. And Riful herself said she only stood a chance because he was half dead! At the moment, it looks like the force that really needs to be dealt with is Isley/Priscilla. As for Riful's army potentially made up of awakened claymores with Yogi controlling powers. I still dont think they would win. They would still be massively outnumbered! And at the end of the day, numbers outweighs skill any day.

So what are the chances of Riful , the 7 and the org joining up to take on Isley and Priscilla? I wouldnt be surprised if some kind of alliance did happen between Riful and the 7, with Riful then falling them in the back.

What happened to Duph?


PS: Seems like we are almost halfway through Claymore Thread #3! We ROCK!

[pigpie]

I think that the 7 will join Riful because they will definitely want to destroy Isley and Clare wants to kill Priscilla.The organisation might or might not help,but i think if they do,Riful will take on Isley,and while the 2 are busy,Priscilla will fight with the seven and maybe those that desert the Org will help out to destroy the left over awakened one together with the Org.And since Riful can't possibly become proper friends with the Claymores,she might just be killed off,and maybe Isley will still be left standing but weaken,and than Alicia will come in and fight Isley with a high probability of winning.

I think Riful either dump Duff,duf is regenerating somewhere after some battle(Riful said Duff takes a long time to recover) or Duff is dead,i mean he isn't very bright,wonder how he used to do his missions

[Hynavian]

I forgot, I was watching episode 10 when Galatea was watching the 4 Slashers in the mountains. Galatea's eyes TURNED BLUE when she was concentrating on reading yoki RIGHT AFTER the AB had been slain.

small details...

Buddy its not a small detail! To me anything about Galatea is big big news. I went and re-watched episode 11 and found the part where Galatea's eyes turned blue. I guess the animators wanted to make her eyes look cooler. :eban: Hmm, that blue looks quite close to the colour silver....hmmm maybe Claymore veins are blue in colour?

I guess while all of us are waiting so patiently for future Claymore chapters, I will be posting posts that will entertain everyone once every few days. Hopefully you all will laugh your hearts out while reading those posts.

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Question: Ever wondered what the organisation stand is when it comes to Clarice and Miata?

===1MMCM Prezzy Presents===

"Clarice And Miata's Worth" [Adopted from A Woman's Worth]
(The "Claymore's Organisation" will be short-termed and referred to as OP in this post for now.)

OP: We have receieved news that there are awakened beings spotted in the North. Ok, lets send #47 Clarice there. If she dies, its cool. Since she's a failed Claymore anyway.

OP: OK, she survived. Let's give her a new mission. #47 will be assigned to aid #4. If she dies while approaching #4, its cool. If she can tame #4 it's cool too.

OP: Ok, now #47 managed to tame #4. Let's send them to go after former #3 Galatea. Let them battle it out. If #47 and #4 die while battling #3, its cool. They are no lost anyway. We have no use for #47 and no control over #4. But if they manage to kill #3 its cool too.

===The End===

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[darthalvarez]

id like to see how powerful Beth really is everyone talks about alicia but without beth, alicia cant awaken and stay sane so that means that as half-human...beth is just as powerful as alicia or more so?

and which claymore rank can i be? im confuzed about this

[Unreal]

lol, thnx for the extra scene link hollywoodlou and thnx for ther welcome guys,

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it was good that i can read the chinese, it reveals the truth, priscilla spanked half of isley's body with one move and she would be way beyond isley if she learns of her abilities

[nhy390]

Indeed, I dont think should be underestimated, I think she can open some considerable whoop-arse! I dont know which one of the twins is stronger, I would assume that Alicia is stronger since she is #1. However, you don't just become #2 because your sister is a bada**. I hope we get to see them doing some proper fighting rather than just awakening Alicia. I think that should be used as a las t resort.

@Unreal, you might want to put a spoiler warning on that message as not everyone has read the last extra scene. I am a poor European so only speak Euro-speaks!

[pigpie]

I doubt Beth actually knows how to fight,because for all those years,the twins were only taught on how to align their spirit.Rubel said the the unifroms are worth paying when Alicia and Beth are fighting,mainly is because Alicia fights in an awakened form,so chances of her getting injures is very low among normal awakened ones since her powers are on par or even stronger than that of the abbysal ones while beth jus needs to stand at one spot and somehow control her sisters awakened self.I think the main reason they are No1 and 2 is because of the fact that Alicia can awaken and return to normalwith aid from Beth,seriously,u cannot put them at a position lower than like say Galatea,becaus eif they were to fight,Galatea is the definite loser,and since they come in a pair,one will be No1 and the other No2,since this is a breakthrough for the Org.

[pigpie]

Unreal could you send the link to me??Is it a thai web?

[Unreal]

its here that was posted before by hollywoodlou :P

http://rapidshare.com/files/53143422/Claymoreextrascene03.zip

sry about the spolier too

[pigpie]

Thanks for the link,but i cannot download the file...still thanks:lol:

[Unreal]

try again, i changed the link when i realise it was wrong

[pigpie]

I found some nice fan pics here.

Do you guys know Claires head was whacked 3 times,first was Ophelia into the ground,than Irene onto the bed lastly is Galatea when she was about to awaken.so funny

[nhy390]

Dont worry Unreal! S*** happens :D

Those pics were very funny! Thanks for that! would be good to see that happening in the manga as well! Didnt understand any of it though :(

[pigpie]

Somemore
Making Use Of Jeans Arm...Really Funny

[Hynavian]

Please remove it.

I will PM you the reason pigpie.

Ok lets get back to the discussions :)

[pigpie]

Done.


I forgot will get warned for it.

[pigpie]

Guys

Apparently Noel is No.5 while Sophia is higher Ranked.
There is a scanlation which i just seen.Noel is 5,and the scan looks real,from a Magazine

[Hynavian]

Guys

Apparently Noel is No.5 while Sophia is higher Ranked.
There is a scanlation which i just seen.Noel is 5,and the scan looks real,from a Magazine

I think their positions are debatable. It appear to me that none of them are willing to take the lousier position.

Im wondering instead of discussing which awakened beings are the most powerful, why not we discuss which awakened form is the most useful? (looking cool dont count)

Take for example Luciela.
Though she does have many mouths all over her body, I find those mouths a pretty useless skill to have. Well, her tails are useful as they can swip others off their feet. But I can see not much use other than that.

What about Riful?
I think her awakened form is definitely one of the most useful models around. Her many tentacles can attack and bind multiple targets at once. Further vertical slashes head down have not much effect on her at all. Now that's what I call a useful form.

On to Alicia.
Her 2 blade like hands and pointed feet does make her a power house. Those to me, are evidences of fast movement and high damage limbs. I can imagine her zooming from a corner to another and practically slashing others into half if they stand in her way.

Now to Isley.
With an arm that can shoot projectiles (or do you call them arrows?), Isley is also capable of ranged attacks. Im not pretty sure what his other abilities are though.

Come, add on to what you all think about the "Usefulness" of the various awakened forms.

[pigpie]

Luciella definitely have lots of ulcers.

Most Useful would be Clare,she has almost everything useful,Ultra fast legs(faster than Rigardo)Double hand with claws and blades as well,only thing is she got no wings to fly.

I think Teresa must have met Irene after Teresas death,they can meet through Clares body,Teresa is in Clares Blood while Irene is Clares Dominat Arm,they must be chatting away.(Jokes)

[nhy390]

Hi Hynavian, good topic!

Well, for Luciela, I dont think her mouths are so useless! No matter where you attempt to attack her she is capable of attacking her opponent. The mouths can probably absorb a lot of damage as was seen from them swllowing Isley's arrows. But indeed, it seems better off against other Awakened Beings that mainly attack with fleshy weapons.

Riful is of course awesome, but there is a lot of her which means a lot of areas to attack. This could make her vulnerable to attacks from many opponents simultaniously. However, she does have a formiddable array of weapons and attack techniques. However, she must be vulnerable to projectile attacks and brute strength, otherwise she wouldnt fear Isley so much. I dont think she can just split her body froom any attack. If it is fast, strong and if she is caught of guard, then it might do damage anyway. But, lets not forget that she is also suppose to be able to heal and regenerate very quickly! That is a major bonus!

Alicia is definetly a very powerful one. Her small size makes her very agile and very difficult to catch and hit. However, small might mean fragile, so few attacks may deal a lot of damage. She is definetly an offensive type, so she might be vulnerable in the defensive.

Isley is just brute force! Face him and head on attack is just a complete deathwish. He is incredibly strong and capable of dealing immense damage both from a distance and in close combat. But as you mentioned, we know little of his abilities, would be good to see him properly in action.

The there is Priscila, we know almost nothing about her attack form except that she is incredibly fast (beat Irene's flash sword technique and ripped her arm off at the same time) and she can attack from close quarters and from a distance with her extendable digits! I would LOVE to see her in action proper!

[Vermillius]

If you're talking about Abyssal ones...you should include Priscilla. Despite her being stronger she is still in that category. Then there's always Rosemary, the would-be Abyssal One.


Hynavian,you seem to down play Luciela's ability. Those mouths are a defensive weapon. I'm not sure how useless you can consider them when they essentially stopped Isley from using projectiles against Luciela. It might seem bizarre, but it struck me as a more useful defense than simply having a dense hide. Also those tails have extremely long range, if you recall the fight against isley.

Alicia seems to have the worst design to me. She can cut things. So can just about every awakened being we have seen. Other than being strong and fast...which all Abyssal ones are, she has no distinguishing characters other than the fact that she is the least intelligent Abyssal one.

Rosemary was a lot like Alicia. Her form didn't have any special mechanics to it, it was just bulkier and larger. However, unlike Alicia, Rosemary actually had a brain. Too bad she picked the wrong opponent.

Priscilla is the only Abyssal one who can fly, and she seems to be the fastest. Flight is usually a convenient ability.

Isley looks the coolest. All of those tracking projectiles seem like an incredible ability, but they didn't seem too effective against Luciela. However since Isley can apparently mold his body into a variety of different weapons he has a lot going for him in terms of versatility.

Riful has the most versatile and bizarre form. Her form allows her to evade attacks and strike multiple times. Her twisted personality is also the most entertaining.

[hollywoodlou]

If you're talking about Abyssal ones...you should include Priscilla. Despite her being stronger she is still in that category. Then there's always Rosemary, the would-be Abyssal One.

Dont forget ALICIA. She WILL destroy Riful easily. Her training doesn't include long conversations on philosophy and only cares about total annihilation of the enemy.

[darthalvarez]

hey guys...maybe im wrong in this but priscilla's weakness is Riku himself...she doesnt fancy him as food, she would have eaten him by then. but her very attachment to Riku could serve against her...unless he fell for her o_o

i think that alicia is strong enough to even beat riful but riful has been living long enough to have the experience of fighting. so if she is in a pinch, she'd probably get away

[chezkimo]

:( everybodies saying alicia will kill Riful easily. Way to get me down!! -_-

But back to business. somoen said what rank can they have, there's only 1 Power 5 position left and 2 Abyssal positions left (surely someone will come froward and want to be isley or alicia or maybe rosemary or rigald i hope).

In all three threads i have added up the total number of posts. It's come upto 500 posts. Yeah, check it, about 200 posts in the other two threads and 100 in this one.

We need something to celebrate!!

And i think claymore will be turnt into another forum outside of "other onemanga" section when it picks up and more manga chapters come along and when even more members voice thier opinion of greatness of claymore. but is abit way off....

[darthalvarez]

hey i claim that last spot...but what do i need to do for it?

and i say that about alicia because she and beth were created to destroy the abysmal ones so they had to make her powerful enough to beat them

[hollywoodlou]

everybodies saying alicia will kill Riful easily. Way to get me down!! -_-

Gome dude. I started it, then everybody jumped on prezzy's Alicia's the best Abyssal bandwagon.

But back to business. somoen said what rank can they have, there's only 1 Power 5 position left and 2 Abyssal positions left (surely someone will come froward and want to be isley or alicia or maybe rosemary or rigald i hope).


I'll be Alicia then.

In all three threads i have added up the total number of posts. It's come upto 500 posts. Yeah, check it, about 200 posts in the other two threads and 100 in this one.

We need something to celebrate!!

As captain of the forum, it's your duty to send us 5 pints each of your finest English lager.

hey guys...maybe im wrong in this but priscilla's weakness is Riku himself...she doesnt fancy him as food, she would have eaten him by then. but her very attachment to Riku could serve against her...unless he fell for her o_o

You could be on to something. Clare can use the brat as a shield or diversion while Clare cuts her head off...brilliant.

[chezkimo]

lol. ok. simple really. you must travel half way around the wordl, produce atleast 10 children within the next 24 hours and find the meaning of life XD.

joking ofcourse. it's first ocme first serve. just tell me the character you want to be and i'll grant you the position of Power 5 and hence forth you'll be known in 1MMCM as *wohever* power 5. it will be listed on my post where i put all of the ranking. you know where it is!

As Power 5, you'll be known as one of the most powerfullest 5 claymores among 1MMCM. that is all. enjoy. simply state:

Name:
Rank:

[chezkimo]

oh, prezzo. didn't see your post. then you shall be *Alicia - Abyssal one*

Another one on my side, w00t!!!!

one position for rank power 5 (except darthalvarez) and one position left for abyssal one then.

i'll give you the deadlines, all names ranks by november 2nd, that should be nough time.

and each an english pint?! i'm under age, i can't buy alchohole.........i'll get my older sis to get it

[hagger]

Yeah, 3 claymore threads is pretty impressive people... I like the idea of Claymore getting its own section. Although, the fact that it is still monthly might stop zabi from doing it. anyways...
Alicia seems pretty impressive so far, but the fact that Beth needs to remain undisturbed to keep Alicia going is a bit of a problem. Its not very useful, having a puny human effectively holding your brain. Which leads to another question: what happens to Alicia if Beth dies? Does she become an independent Abyssal one? Her lack of independent thought, and the way that her and her sister have been raised together amd psychichally bonded, might stop her doing that, in my opinion. What do others think?

[hollywoodlou]

Yeah, 3 claymore threads is pretty impressive people... I like the idea of Claymore getting its own section. Although, the fact that it is still monthly might stop zabi from doing it. anyways...

The mission of the Claymore thread is just to discuss..nothing more. I was more surprised that with 5 regular members including myself, that we were able to get to thread # 3 WITHIN 30 DAYS of the forum being created on the 1st week of August.

Everything else is gravy.
We are already rated ***** by the mods. I'll be damned if ichigo or prince of Tennis has more posts than us.lol

Alicia seems pretty impressive so far, but the fact that Beth needs to remain undisturbed to keep Alicia going is a bit of a problem. Its not very useful, having a puny human effectively holding your brain. Which leads to another question: what happens to Alicia if Beth dies? Does she become an independent Abyssal one? Her lack of independent thought, and the way that her and her sister have been raised together amd psychichally bonded, might stop her doing that, in my opinion. What do others think?

If Beth dies, Alicia will kill ONLY Abyssals due to her training. That's it. She''ll be "soulless" but instinct/nature trumps intelligence even in the animal world. Why do scorpions sting even though their prey is bigger than them?

oh, prezzo. didn't see your post. then you shall be *Alicia - Abyssal one*


Finally, we agree. Why are u giving your prezz such a hard time?lol

and each an english pint?! i'm under age, i can't buy alchohole.........i'll get my older sis to get it

I forgot about that. Well, I just finished my first class today's @ UCLA then I have to rush to work in Hollywood, so I'll drink for the rest of ya!

[chezkimo]

w00t. drink double for me!! i'm good at holding my drink as i'm 1/4 irish :)

and knew topic, seeing as we've been talking about the abyssal ones aloong time. who do you think is the strongest claymore of all time.
possible results:

Teresa
Miata
alicia (remember though alicia can awaken and come back so we should kinda imagine her with her actual powers as a claymore not abyssal one)
Raphaela (irene did say she was really powerful even though she didn't use her yoki)
(and any abyssal ones, althoguh we can't really say them seeing as we have no idea about thier powers before awakening)
priscilla before she awakened

list goes on.

[darthalvarez]

well have fun hollywood

i prefer to stay sober...but thats me:P

has anyone taken Isley's spot?

and i dont think that Beth is as puny as you all believe her to be. the sole fact that the org trusts her with Alicia's sanity must mean that Beth has some tricks up her sleeve

and if she were to die, i doubt that alicia would only kill abysmal ones, she would be like the rest of the yoma, killing/eating humans slowly getting smarter every time

[hollywoodlou]

back from school, back WHILE working...

and knew topic, seeing as we've been talking about the abyssal ones aloong time. who do you think is the strongest claymore of all time.

TERESA. Hands freakin' down. Prissy might've overtaken her eventually BUT Clare turned her into a pansy, now she's dead.
If we were talking about the only Claymore described as a "monster" more than twice and pre-Clare Teresa, it's Teresa.

[darthalvarez]

claire did somewhat weaken Teresa but she made Teresa happy. I believe that even though she died because of it, Claire was more important to her than being the strongest woman. she did to Teresa what Riku did to her. This just goes to show that even though there is work, and war there is still room for even the unlikeliest of people to experience happiness

[Asesino]

o_O...Sup ppl...and who is riku? ?_? You mean Raki?

Damn ya'll post alot =P makes me glad to be a part of this XD..srry about taking so long to sign on...I had to deal with some stuff...stupid education -_-;

P.S.- I upgraded my net to 5mb per sec WOOT!!!!!!! =D

-Asesino- o_O; Halloween (The movie) ROCKS!!!!

[Asesino]

Oh and yea..teresa is the strongest Obv.

-Asesino- ('''')(-_-)('''') GO SNORLAX!!!!!! o.O

[hollywoodlou]

hell yeah!

Plus she's the hottest.

[Hynavian]

Teresa
Miata
alicia (remember though alicia can awaken and come back so we should kinda imagine her with her actual powers as a claymore not abyssal one)
Raphaela (irene did say she was really powerful even though she didn't use her yoki)
(and any abyssal ones, althoguh we can't really say them seeing as we have no idea about thier powers before awakening)
priscilla before she awakened

list goes on.

I vote for Teresa. She has the brains, the power and she's sexy!

[Rasengan]

hello all, i dont post here alot and just started reading the manga and all like everyone im really into this manga!! but can someone tell me why they stop subbing the manga? its pretty close to the end since theres only 26 episodes right? well my guess

[hollywoodlou]

hello all, i dont post here alot and just started reading the manga and all like everyone im really into this manga!! but can someone tell me why they stop subbing the manga? its pretty close to the end since theres only 26 episodes right? well my guess

Welcome rasengan. They haven't "stopped subbing the manga" as you termed it.

In June 2007, Shonen Jump dropped the series and another shounen launching in November 2, 2007 called JUmp Square (the new home of Claymore manga) will pick up from where it left off, scene 73.

In the meantime, there are 3 "extra scenes' that Norihiro Yagi has written as a TY to the fans, before he starts scene 74 in 11/02/07.

So wait til November...
**** That's the 2nd time I;ve explained this in 1 week lol****

Of course Teresa is the baddest of them all.

[Unreal]

Teresa for the monster of claymore, but imagine miata and teresa fights without claymore, who will rip eachother arms and head off first. :thumbup:

[firefly]

i really wonder why teresa was so damn powerful. d'you reckon there will be a special reason why shes so badass?
Though from wat ive seen claire and co arent far behind her (though we never got to see teresa fight at full power did we)

*gear shift*
I reckon beth should be number 1 rather than her twin! shes doing all the damn work for christ sake!!

[hollywoodlou]

i really wonder why teresa was so damn powerful. d'you reckon there will be a special reason why shes so badass?
Though from wat ive seen claire and co arent far behind her (though we never got to see teresa fight at full power did we)

*gear shift*
I reckon beth should be number 1 rather than her twin! shes doing all the damn work for christ sake!!

On Teresa: is there anyone in the Claymore world who fought an Awakened Being (Rosemary) without raising their yoki power? She only raised it within the last seconds because she might forget how to...

On Beth: You could be right. BUt you could compare Beth to a squire who carries a knight's other sword while the actual knight goes to battle by himself. Then again, they're twins so they should SHARE the top spot.

[pigpie]

I think Teresa is so powerful is maybe

1)The area in which Yoma flesh and blood were placed inside here.
2)Her will
3)The Yoma in her is a very strong one so she got lucky

Irene Flash Sword

I think it is pretty dumb when she was using it,if you guys notice,it looks likes her hands didn't move,meaning that after she draw her sword,sheath it,she must put her hand down to her thighs rea to make it look like it didn't move,since she is doing hundreds of slashes very quickly.Windcutter looks more real since her hands are on the handle itself,so in the process she need not place her hand down like Irene.Another thing is that it is stated that Irenes arm is fully awakened,but when Clare fought Rigardo,her arm changed into THE awakened version,there is some problem with what the wrier is saying.

Hole In Stomach

You guys are aware that in the first episode,Clares' stomach was punch through,but she somehow was able to regenerate it and FYI,she is an offensive type,meaning that defensive types should be able to do it effortlessly or asier than offensive type,which brings me to Deneve,her stomach got punch through as well by an awakened one but she had trouble regenerating it,the regenration of the other arm will take some effort but that would still be linda unreal that she cannot heal the stomach,and Jeans one too,she is a offensive type but she suffered similar damge from Clare(maybe a bigger hole).

Did you guys Know Teresa used to have Black hairs and eyes

[hollywoodlou]

Irene Flash Sword

I think it is pretty dumb when she was using it,if you guys notice,it looks likes her hands didn't move,meaning that after she draw her sword,sheath it,she must put her hand down to her thighs rea to make it look like it didn't move,since she is doing hundreds of slashes very quickly.Windcutter looks more real since her hands are on the handle itself,so in the process she need not place her hand down like Irene.Another thing is that it is stated that Irenes arm is fully awakened,but when Clare fought Rigardo,her arm changed into THE awakened version,there is some problem with what the wrier is saying.

What's your point PP? That Irene's technique is "dumb", NOT POSSIBLE or FASTER compared to Flora's?

Ok. I;ll play devil's advocate. You seem to support Flora's technique so I'll critique it...Flora's Windcutter is ridiculous for the reason of why do you have to sheath BACK THE SWORD if your in constant battle? That's a waste of energy & movement. The only bad thing about the Quick/Flash Sword is the high amt of yoki & mental power to make it happen, but Clare got the hang of it.

You guys are aware that in the first episode,Clares' stomach was punch through,but she somehow was able to regenerate it and FYI,she is an offensive type,meaning that defensive types should be able to do it effortlessly or asier than offensive type,which brings me to Deneve,her stomach got punch through as well by an awakened one but she had trouble regenerating it,the regenration of the other arm will take some effort but that would still be linda unreal that she cannot heal the stomach,and Jeans one too,she is a offensive type but she suffered similar damge from Clare(maybe a bigger hole).

Of course it took longer for Deneve to recover from the wound in the Slashers arc. Her wounds were lethal and she was very close to her limit/death. Just like the human body, if your body says no, it wont recover quickly. You need rest.
Offensive types can regenerate but slower...Irene also said so. Offensive types have a much more difficult time attaching broken arms and limbs AFTER A CERTAIN TIME has elapsed. This was stated in the Endless Gravestones arc.

[firefly]

On Beth: You could be right. BUt you could compare Beth to a squire who carries a knight's other sword while the actual knight goes to battle by himself. Then again, they're twins so they should SHARE the top spot.

Both better points than i could have hoped for on any other forum ^_^
especially the Knight analogy which makes alot of sense, though the squire is more of an apprentice whereas the twins are equals (being twins and all). still, i think beth should get some credit :thumbup:

On Teresa: is there anyone in the Claymore world who fought an Awakened Being (Rosemary) without raising their yoki power? She only raised it within the last seconds because she might forget how to...

Yh totally did like a bunch of chapters ago whilst saving the brown haired claymore.

[hollywoodlou]

Both better points than i could have hoped for on any other forum ^_^
especially the Knight analogy which makes alot of sense, though the squire is more of an apprentice whereas the twins are equals (being twins and all). still, i think beth should get some credit

Of course FF. I used the analogy because you're a Brit.;)

[pigpie]

Regard Quicksword

Irene also sheath her sword when she was doing her fight with Teresa,but she didn't only sheath her sword,she place it back her arm back to her original position.But it is amazing how Teresa can dodge all the attacks.But why doesn't she leave any mirage like Miria,I think that Teresa also excels at speed.Wonder if Miria move too fast will she go into another dimension,or maybe she will change shape as her molecules will go out of whack.

[hollywoodlou]

Miria will awaken before she does all of that "dimensional-molecule' stuff you just mentioned.

[hollywoodlou]

Claymore RAW:

Just finished watching the Claymore RAW tonight ep23...it was just garbage.

I couldn't believe that those 2 (helen/Miria) couldn't stop a little boy from running into the battlefield.

screw this drama about "Clare, I made a promise to be with you" BS, I;ve had it already.

[pigpie]

You watched the RAW,stream or download,i wanna watch too

[Hynavian]

SPOILERS

Claymore RAW:

Just finished watching the Claymore RAW tonight ep23...it was just garbage.

I couldn't believe that those 2 (helen/Miria) couldn't stop a little boy from running into the battlefield.

screw this drama about "Clare, I made a promise to be with you" BS, I;ve had it already.

Nooo.....it's there but I can't download it. I'm waiting for kind-herted users in some online channels to upload it so that I can watch. But judging from what you have said, it seems weird that Miria did not manage to trick or convince Raki that rushing onto the battlefield is a suicide attempt.

I can sense it.......though I don't have Yoki sensing abilities, I know that Priscilla and Isley are coming and the show down is near!

[nhy390]

Hey everyone,

a quick thought at hollywood. You mentioned that if Beth died, then Alicia would only attack awakened beings due to her training. I don't agree as if Beth dies she awakenes properly and will forget all her training. So I dont think she would just kil awakened beings.

As for strong Claymore characters, I think we are forgetting everyone's favorite nutcase: Ophilia! She was definetly one to recon with, being both ruthless, clever, incrdibly fast, skilled and very gifted... pitty she was a complete nut! Nevertheless, even Miria warned them about her in particular! I think she should be up there with the strongest.

I am very disapointed to hear that they have managed to mess up the anime in only a couple of episodes! How? If they were going to deviate from the original Manga, they shouldnt have waited till the last 5 episodes!

PS: could you guys please, please, please, put up a spoiler warning if you are going to mention something that is just out! I have to wait till Thursdays to be able to watch the new episodes and I have to wait for translations, so to not ruin it for me, could you just say watch out for spoilers concerning X?

[Hynavian]

As for strong Claymore characters, I think we are forgetting everyone's favorite nutcase: Ophilia! She was definetly one to recon with, being both ruthless, clever, incrdibly fast, skilled and very gifted... pitty she was a complete nut! Nevertheless, even Miria warned them about her in particular! I think she should be up there with the strongest.

Ophelia was strong in her own way but she lost to Irene! If Ophelia can't beat Irene, and Irene can't beat Teresa. We can then leave Ophelia out of the picture. It's a pity that she lost herself and awakened after being scratched all over by Irene's quicksword (Now, such a weird way to awaken IMO).


I am very disapointed to hear that they have managed to mess up the anime in only a couple of episodes! How? If they were going to deviate from the original Manga, they shouldnt have waited till the last 5 episodes!

I think that's one of the reason why they deviated from the manga. If they're to make it totally different when its like episode 15, I bet many Claymore fans will send hate mails or bycott the anime. By staying true to the manga for 3/4 of the anime appeared to be a better choice as the original intent of the mangaka is mostly captured. However, there's a need to create some different ending as it would be ages before season 2 or there would not be a season 2 at all.

You like shows that end what they started right? I always curse at cliffhanger endings.

On another note, maybe I might be cursing at this anime's ending. Well.....Galatea!!!!!! Where is she? I hope Madhouse don't make her character appear in the North War suddenly and get her killed by some noob awakened being >.<

[nhy390]

Ophelia was strong in her own way but she lost to Irene! If Ophelia can't beat Irene, and Irene can't beat Teresa. We can then leave Ophelia out of the picture. It's a pity that she lost herself and awakened after being scratched all over by Irene's quicksword (Now, such a weird way to awaken IMO).

That is true, but Irene was also 2 ranks higher than Ophelia. But I guess you are right. I did like her though, and her awakened form was AWESOME I thought. I also liked that she didnt even realise for ages. That was a coll touch! I suppose her arrogance was her greatest weakness.


I think that's one of the reason why they deviated from the manga. If they're to make it totally different when its like episode 15, I bet many Claymore fans will send hate mails or bycott the anime.>.<

lol, so true!!!


You like shows that end what they started right? I always curse at cliffhanger endings.>.<

I must admit that I have started going off some Anime for that reason! I hate when they leave some ****ty ending, cliffhanger, or one that just makes no sense at all! But the way things are going at the moment with the anime, I think we should all prepare ourselves mentally for a really rubbish ending. However, we should also ask ourselves this: what would we have thought of the anime if we had not read the manga? Just like any book that you read that gets made into a movie, it can never match the written work in creativity characters, plot, etc! Paper and pencil have no limit and no boundaries (and a much smaller budget :D)!

On another note, maybe I might be cursing at this anime's ending. Well.....Galatea!!!!!! Where is she? I hope Madhouse don't make her character appear in the North War suddenly and get her killed by some noob awakened being >.<

She is definetly also one of the strongest. I wonder how Theresa would have managed against someone who can manipulate yoki? But, I recon Galatea is the character I am most wanting to see in the next chapter! I am dying to know what happend to her her. As for in the anime, I don think tha would happen. After all she held her ground and was defeating Duph, one of the strongest awakened beings! But regardless what the anime does, I have sepreated the manga and anime in my mind and will consider them seperate entities to avoid anger, frustration and confusion!

Sorry, I have gone aon for ages again. I talk too much and work too little :P

[luciferhellblazer]

me too... I really really hate it when they stop it like that...

[Hynavian]

She is definetly also one of the strongest. I wonder how Theresa would have managed against someone who can manipulate yoki? But, I recon Galatea is the character I am most wanting to see in the next chapter! I am dying to know what happend to her her. As for in the anime, I don think tha would happen. After all she held her ground and was defeating Duph, one of the strongest awakened beings! But regardless what the anime does, I have sepreated the manga and anime in my mind and will consider them seperate entities to avoid anger, frustration and confusion!

Though I idolise Galatea, I hate to say it but Teresa will pawn Galatea if they did ever fought :( (Im sure hollywoodlou is smiling and nodding his head in agreement when reading this line) My reasons are that Teresa was able to twist (or was it tear) RoseMary arm out without using any of her Yoki powers and she totally eliminated Rosemary without a sweat. Galatea was pawning Dulf till Riful gave Duff some advise.

Teresa is, #1 has more IQ and EQ than Duff (so that she can figure out Galatea's tricks) and, #2 not lacking in any Yoki powers.

I have been pondering over this issue for some time and I need you guys to help me out with this. Please help me to justify Ophelia's position as a #4 in the organisation

#1 Alicia and #2 Beth have their spots reserved and are definitely theirs as they're like a pair of scissors. Sharp and ever ready to cut ever one apart.

#5 Rafaela don't really care what spot she has as long as the organisation keep their end of the word and provide her information on her sister Luciela.

Now to #3 Galatea, her rank of Yoki release is tremendous and she can sense Yoki to the very small details. Hence, to pit Ophelia against Galatea would be a bad idea as Galatea can read all of Ophelia's moves and dispatch Ophelia by releasing her powers.

Now can someone please tell me why Ophelia is #4 when I think that #8 Flora is not bad as a fighter. Windcutter is comparable to Irene's Quick Sword and we know that Irene totally pawned Ophelia with just her one arm.

And please enlighten me on why #6 Miria's mirages could not outwin #4 Ophelia as Miria is said to be the fastest warrior around when she uses that skill. Her mirages match that of Rigardo at the front.

Ophelia fans out there, please defend her!

[Tiki]

Lol!

Tht’s really something to think about! But, I believe Ophelia got into the 4th place cause she hates Awakened Beings and even crazy enough to try killing those semi-awakened claymores. Gosh, I can imagine her….killing all her way up to #4!

Plus, I think she’s quite ‘smart’…. She’s so freaking bloodthirsty, always playin weird games… torturing and murderin, but why?? WHY the organization nv punish her?!! There must be a reason….either the organization knew nothing bout her behavior (she’s ‘smart’ enough to hide tht….) or they closed one eye.

#8 Flora…. Somehow, she‘s more ‘meek’…very gentle. I can’t imagine her drawing her sword at her fellow claymores! Plus… Flora vs Ophelia, I think Ophelia will win. Not because of her abilities, but her tactics. She likely wins by unfair means!

Anyway, we still dunn realli know how the organization positioned those rankings.

And hope you guys dunn mind me joinin this thread! >.<
Claymore 3 sounds 'wow!' plus I luv Claymore!! Can't get enough of tht!!! >.< And…I’m definitely not a fan of Ophelia!

[nhy390]

Hey Tiki, and welcome to the forum! Of course we dont mind you joining in, the more the merrier!

I would agree with you that part of Ophilia's strength is in her cunning. We have given Riful so much credit and set her so high because of her being sneaky (we do have a couple of people who REALLY like Riful), so I dont know why the same would not apply to Ophilia!

I have wondered about why the Org. hasnt done anything. Perhaps they were content with her results and decided that the odd killing of humans was ok... the end justifies the mean. She certainly was pretty good with taking out awakened beings. Check out the Extra Scene. She was pretty quick.

As for Flora... I think most of the people in a high ranking would defend their position and strive for a higher one. Because she appears gentle doesnt make her so! However, in a fight against Ophilia you may be right. Given that Ophilia has no scruples, all tricks in the book are aloud! I am sure others have a little more honor and dont play dirty... except for Ophilia. That, dirty, DIRTY girl ;)

[pigpie]

I wonder how Ophelia will face the awakened beings in the North,I meana she DOES have an abnormal obsession for awakened beings

[nhy390]

Sorry Pigpie, I dont understand. How will Ophelia face the awakened beings in the North? She died after she awoke herself!

Sorry if i am being thick!

[Podadam]

Hey there peeps,

Ive been reading all your posts from the start (claymore 1) and seriously, I am amazed by your knowledge. I learned much and reread and watched AT LEAST 4 times the manga and the anime. Sometimes, it's not even funny how much deduction you guys do from a simple thing in the anime/manga. Nonetheless, it's as impressive also. For the start, I am not a "hardcore" forum whore so don't expect I will post every 30-45 min like most of you guys do. Most importantly, I registered and wrote this post to say, for you who are claymore fanatics just like me, what will happen in the 23 episode. The next lines will have some spoilers. Considered yourself WARNED. (If it works out well, you will have to high lite the text to see it. If it doesn't work out, I'm sorry.

First, the anime clearly took its own path in this episode. It might come back to the manga at the end but, meh, doesn't look like it. First of all, Raki actually gets to pieta and sees Clare half awake and starts crying/despair. But as always, (cheesy moment) he says that he won't let it happen. About Clares awakening, when she chops off Ricardo, and till the end of the episode, her hands are still completely human (no blades or anything). But most importantly, Isley, who is with Priscillia as you know, senses the immense yoki coming from Clare and decides to go to Pieta and have some fun too. Will Priscillia be with him when he gets to Pieta? I don't know. But, interesting fact that is worth pointing out, is that when Clare gets pissed and releases most of her power, we see Priscillia being scared/worried. So IMO, she feels Teresas yoki in Clare. Once again, I wrote this not to ruin the fun for you guys, but for those who are too impatient to wait."REmoved link" If you go to dailymotion dot com and just search for claymore 23,you can find the raw and french subbed there(all streaming)

There are most probably even more important things that I missed, but only you guys, the pros, can find it :thumbup:.But, the english version still didnt come out yet and I do understand french.So...win-win situation. But seriously, nothing is said important EXCEPT that Clares movements are almost as the same as Isleys. Which points out the obvious, she has extreme potential (nothing new there).

By the way, is it true that there will be only 25 volumes of the manga? If its true, 3-4 chapters a volume and 1 chapter every week, Claymore wont last long.

Wish you guys the best and, keep us, the readers and informed and entertained!

[nhy390]

Hey Podadam, and welcome.

The anime is suppose to run for 26 episodes. So yes, unfortunately the anime will be finished soon. But it is a pitty they are making such a mess of it!

Thanks for the spoiler warning! It seems I am the only one who hasnt watched the latest episode, so I really appreciate it :D

[Podadam]

Nhy,

I meant the manga. 25 "Volumes" and not episodes.

[nhy390]

Sorry mate, am not sure how many volumes, but I am pretty sure I heard/read somewhere that iw was going to be as many as 50 or 52! It is suppose to run for quite a while yet. But, some of the other members will know this for sure!

[Hynavian]

Hey there peeps,

Ive been reading all your posts from the start (claymore 1) and seriously, I am amazed by your knowledge. I learned much and reread and watched AT LEAST 4 times the manga and the anime. Sometimes, it's not even funny how much deduction you guys do from a simple thing in the anime/manga. Nonetheless, it's as impressive also. For the start, I am not a "hardcore" forum whore so don't expect I will post every 30-45 min like most of you guys do.

Hi Podadam. Welcome to the Claymore Forum of One Manga. Make yourself at home and join in the discussions when you can. Don't worry, we don't expect members to post every half an hour or so.

Sorry mate, am not sure how many volumes, but I am pretty sure I heard/read somewhere that iw was going to be as many as 50 or 52! It is suppose to run for quite a while yet. But, some of the other members will know this for sure!

Are you depending on the 2 Co-Presidents of the 1MMCM to answer the above question? :) So far I have not yet heard of any news of Claymore ending at a particular XX volume or so. I'll go check the site again and let you all know if I see anything new on the site.


Oh and don't worry. We'll have a discussion on episode 23 when the english subs are out so that everyone can join in the discussion :) We try not to spoil it for you nhy. :devil:

[Podadam]

Are you depending on the 2 Co-Presidents of the 1MMCM to answer the above question? So far I have not yet heard of any news of Claymore ending at a particular XX volume or so

Thanks god. This news will let me sleep at night.

[Tiki]

I have wondered about why the Org. hasnt done anything. Perhaps they were content with her results and decided that the odd killing of humans was ok... the end justifies the mean. She certainly was pretty good with taking out awakened beings. Check out the Extra Scene. She was pretty quick.

As for Flora... I think most of the people in a high ranking would defend their position and strive for a higher one. Because she appears gentle doesnt make her so! However, in a fight against Ophilia you may be right. Given that Ophilia has no scruples, all tricks in the book are aloud! I am sure others have a little more honor and dont play dirty... except for Ophilia. That, dirty, DIRTY girl ;)


Damn! I'm jealous! Somehow I feel tht the Org are bein unfair to Teresa. Feel like thy have been waitin for her to make a mistake, so tht they can get rid of her! (Who knows..maybe tht was their plan! Cause they got tht powerful Priscillia at the point of time!) Anyway, I go and check the Extra Scene bout Ophilia! Might be interestin!

Come to think of tht, you r correct bout high ranking defend and strivin for higher rank!!! Flora immediately noticed Clara's right arm wasn't hers and confronted her. She is soo cautious and she challaged Clara because she wan to compare which skill is better!!


The anime is suppose to run for 26 episodes. So yes, unfortunately the anime will be finished soon. But it is a pitty they are making such a mess of it!

Lol! Hi Podadam, I read a little of the spoiler! Can't stop myself from reading tht!! Anyway, thx for the warnin!!

Ha.... I just dunn realli like how it's goin to turn out in e anime, but I will watch it anyway. But.....if manga ended the story somehow like the anime, I kill myself! (just kidding...>.<) It's just tht the plot have been soo good, so I expected a lot!!! Ha....

[chezkimo]

Hellooooo people. Welcome Podadam. I aswell as everybody deeply encourages anybody and everybody who likes claymore to add to the forum.

i don't think that the manga will only last for 25 volumes. no. i think it'll be one of those mangas where it will end when it ends so there arn't any limitations. but i definatly do not think it will be one of those mangas that will go on forever either, like one piece. (damn, that is so crappy) sorry any one peice fans out there.

About Opheilia. I do say how clever Riful is and all but i've never doubted ophelia's tricky thinking and dirty cleverness.

and WHY is ophelia number 4. I'll tell you why! Sure she may not be able to become as fast as miria (who only is able to meet rigalds speed ofr a certain time seeing as in order to create her mirages she needs a quick high blast of yoki, and done exccesivly can even damage her body to an extent) and she may not have any fancy moves as good as windcutter. But it's her sheer power and strength that give her that position. and compared to alot of claymore her speed is impressive as we've seen before she can just jump up and slice off and awakened beings head and it won't even have time to react. it's not just that, it's her blood lust. when a claymore goes into battle they think off thier actions or they may hesitate. she goes in full throttle when she means to and overwhlems the enermy.

true galatea has that yoki manipulation ability but she has to concentrate when using it, ophelia would be like shotting straight ahead with all her strength, and galtea may become overwhlemed if she has to defend against her attacks so much. after all she is a defensive type and their strength isn't as good as offensive.

besides all tat she has got that rippling sword technique. and let me just say, i knew it wasn't gonna be a good anime ending from the last episode when they changed it.

[Hynavian]

true galatea has that yoki manipulation ability but she has to concentrate when using it, ophelia would be like shotting straight ahead with all her strength, and galtea may become overwhlemed if she has to defend against her attacks so much. after all she is a defensive type and their strength isn't as good as offensive.

Captain! Prepare yourself for some heavy firing from me since you dragged Galatea into the picture. Being a defensive Claymore does not mean that her strength is no match to that of Ophelia's. It's just that their intentions are different, that's how Galatea ended up being a defensive warrior instead. Its stated that Galatea's Yoki power increase is the highest among the 47 Claymores, that means, her Yoki quantity is definitely more than Ophelia if lets say you bring them both to 70pc of their limits at the same time. [Chpt 46, Purgatory of the Deepest Depths I, pg26]

Its true that Ophelia is strong enough to challenge a single digit awakened being but Galatea was fairing well against Dulph too. She might have maimed Dulp and ran off with Clare if Riful did not appear (though not killing Dulph due to his ridiculously hard armour coating). Ophelia, being a head on clashing warrior, would have rushed head on against Dulp and get beaten into a pulp as I dont see how she can use that Rippling skills of hers to win/numb Dulph.

Further if Clare is able to sense Ophelia's attacks before hand, Galatea would be able to do so and to do it better too. Hence, blocking all of Ophelia's strikes.

......With regards to the anime........
I agree with Captain that the anime ending might not be much loved by some of us.

SPOILERS: (Highlight below to read)

And what's up with Miria and gang all hiding in a corner and letting Clare do all the fighting? Now we know where all the Claymore went when Miria and team (Helen,Denever,Clare) were fighting....they went into hiding. Is this the expected behaviour of a Claymore?

[hollywoodlou]

Holy...u guys are fast. I'm just taking a break from class and we're up another 3 pages...thank god I brought my laptop.

i don't think that the manga will only last for 25 volumes. no. i think it'll be one of those mangas where it will end when it ends so there arn't any limitations. but i definatly do not think it will be one of those mangas that will go on forever either, like one piece. (damn, that is so crappy) sorry any one peice fans out there.


Are you depending on the 2 Co-Presidents of the 1MMCM to answer the above question? So far I have not yet heard of any news of Claymore ending at a particular XX volume or so. I'll go check the site again and let you all know if I see anything new on the site.

Unfortunately, Captain...25 volumes was indeed what Yagi-sensei has stated would be the last volume of the series. Pls dont compare this to One Piece lol.

**1MMCM co-prez

and WHY is ophelia number 4.

You do know that the #4 in kanji means death' or is an unlucky number...why do u think ALL #4's are either crazy sociopaths (Ophelia) or mentally unstable (Miata)?

...ok back to class.

[Hynavian]

Unfortunately, Captain...25 volumes was indeed what Yagi-sensei has stated would be the last volume of the series. Pls dont compare this to One Piece lol.

Oh no...I missed out on that news. And yes Captain, don't compare it to One Piece. <=== My siblings love One Piece :)


You do know that the #4 in kanji means death' or is an unlucky number...why do u think ALL #4's are either crazy sociopaths (Ophelia) or mentally unstable (Miata)?

Ah no wonder all the Claymores with rank number 4 of the organisation kept dying. I think the only "normal" claymore is the one during Teresa's period. Too bad they all died quite quickly.

Is it only me or do you guys notice that page 5 of the Claymore extra scene 3 mentioned something like Claymore Volume 13 will be out on the 4th of October?

Oh ya a thought just came across me just now. It appears that the #3 are all regenades. Eg: Galatea and Irene. Is Mr Yagi hinting to us that the current #3 Audrey might be a possible candidate who might run off too?

*Imagine Audrey running off with Rachel* LOL :lol:

[chezkimo]

lol. i didn't drag galatea inot the picture, everybody before hand was already saying that galatea would woop ophelia's butt 10 times over. as a fan of ophelia's i was just trying to mkae the point that in that kind of battle ophelia would last longer than you guys expect and not get finished in a matter of milli-seconds.

and OMG, only 25 volums! that's not enough. what is he thinking! and i'm not comparing one piece to claymore. comparing would mean that they have some simularities. i was merly saying that one piece has got sooooo many chapters and anime episodes, not to be rude, but i really don't see why it's so popular and has so many.

and yes, #4 means unlucky but that's not the reason why ophelia and miata got that rank. ophelia becuase she just deserves it and miata because she's potential #1, remember potential and so shouldn't be at #5 but then seeing as she's only potential shouldn't be at #3. so in between.

but i did realise something. you know it's really hard to draw a perfect cricle. well you know apparently people are saying if you can draw a perfect circle than you're insane/crazy. ophelia's symbol is a circle!! (that's gotta say something WITH the #4 thing), aww, ophelia had bad luck and craziness written all over her. no wander she was fated to awaken and get killed.

and yes, i partly agree with the renegades theory of #3s. also, have you noticed, #3s are defensive types, Audrey is defensive as well as galatea, which also links to ophelia of the previous gen. being crazy and miata of the new gen. being crazy. yep, paterns arising oh what!

and i don't know about Audrey and Rachel. those seem iffy you you know what i mean. they seem alittle too *close* and Rachel is defo. a lezza if yopu ask me!!

[hollywoodlou]

lol. i didn't drag galatea inot the picture, everybody before hand was already saying that galatea would woop ophelia's butt 10 times over. as a fan of ophelia's i was just trying to mkae the point that in that kind of battle ophelia would last longer than you guys expect and not get finished in a matter of milli-seconds.

I'm not a fan of Galatea either...nor Ophelia. I'm siding with Ophelia on this one. I' don't really think that Galatea's yoki controlling abilites will work on Ophelia because in order for Gal's abilty to work, her opponent's mind SHOULD BE WEAK & "in doubt".

Ophelia's mind is warped, irrational and downright nasty. You don't want Ophe's subconscious, believe me. Ergo, Gal's yoki control power wouldn't work...score one for Ophelia.

and OMG, only 25 volums! that's not enough. what is he thinking! and i'm not comparing one piece to claymore. comparing would mean that they have some simularities. i was merly saying that one piece has got sooooo many chapters and anime episodes, not to be rude, but i really don't see why it's so popular and has so many.


We understand. BUT if you are comparing them to wear ONE PIECE BATHING SUITS, I forgive you.;)

and yes, #4 means unlucky but that's not the reason why ophelia and miata got that rank. ophelia becuase she just deserves it and miata because she's potential #1, remember potential and so shouldn't be at #5 but then seeing as she's only potential shouldn't be at #3. so in between.

I just provided the #4 "kanji" cultural parallel as a starting point BUT no one actually knows how you step up in rankings. Example, if #7 Eva died @ Pieta, shouldn't Flora be # 7 IMMEDIATELY?

but i did realise something. you know it's really hard to draw a perfect cricle. well you know apparently people are saying if you can draw a perfect circle than you're insane/crazy. ophelia's symbol is a circle!! (that's gotta say something WITH the #4 thing), aww, ophelia had bad luck and craziness written all over her. no wander she was fated to awaken and get killed.

That is the STUPIDEST thing I've ever heard. So you are saying if I draw a PERFECT SQUARE, I'm an a**hole? lol

and yes, i partly agree with the renegades theory of #3s. also, have you noticed, #3s are defensive types, Audrey is defensive as well as galatea, which also links to ophelia of the previous gen. being crazy and miata of the new gen. being crazy. yep, paterns arising oh what!

#3's like Irene, Galatea I'll accept...Audrey? I don't want her. She's as hot as the previous #3's BUT I hate WIMPS who piss their pants when the enemy is upon them. (see Riful scene 71)

[chezkimo]

ah. i see what you're saying. you mean thier mind is in doubt as in they don't attack full force. well, like i said, seeing as galatea would be no. 3 ophelia would strike like lightning to a tree and her yoki controlling abilities are much less effective against full force attacks that don't hold back. example: Dauf in the witches maw.

and seriously, people have been saying that for along time. probably becuase, free hand it is incredibly dificult to draw a perfect cirlce of the bat, unless you're a genious or insane. and remember people, perfect, means PERFECT, so the diameter would have to be perfect, everything would have to be equal and perfect.

and Prezzo. the ranking boos system dosn't work like that. people just don't get moved up, except in the case of priscilla, which was a special case seeing as she was like a natural monsterly strong claymore, then everybody gets bumped down.

the way it works (i believe) is that when one claymore has been killed or ran away or whatever, somoene who has had the potential to be in that spot previously will probably get filled by it and they will be moved form one number to the next, OR a newbie will come along and be ranked in that number. a newbie that has the power for the number ofcourse. lets take an example. Miria and her freind Hilda.

Miria, before Hilda died was #8. Hilda was #6. Hilda awakened and then had to be killed. and so the #6 spot was elft open. seeing as miria was the recent hot topic among the orgi. (my conclusion after reading what that handler said) after Hilda was killed they probably put Miria as #6 becuase she had the power to be it what with her skill and knowledge and all. that's my conclusion anyway, seeing as there wasn't really that much of a time gap between when Miria killed Hilda and Clare met Miria who was #6 then.

and thanks for backing up ophelia! what i'd expect of the new abyssal one. on the dark side, muhahahaha

[hollywoodlou]

and Prezzo. the ranking boos system dosn't work like that. people just don't get moved up, except in the case of priscilla, which was a special case seeing as she was like a natural monsterly strong claymore, then everybody gets bumped down.

I never said I knew how it works...I said "no one actually knows how the rankings work". I just provided the "Eva" example as a starting point for argument's sake, that if Eva # 7 died, shouldn't Flora move up to her spot?

the way it works (i believe) is that when one claymore has been killed or ran away or whatever, somoene who has had the potential to be in that spot previously will probably get filled by it and they will be moved form one number to the next, OR a newbie will come along and be ranked in that number. a newbie that has the power for the number ofcourse. lets take an example. Miria and her freind Hilda.

You already answered your question with this paragraph by "offering" options.

and thanks for backing up ophelia! what i'd expect of the new abyssal one. on the dark side, muhahahaha

MY Abyssal one is Alicia, remember? Because they're twins...and IM THE PREZ OF THIS FORUM, I expect them to be at my bedside tonight. ;) (Executive Order # HL 69)

[Podadam]

Unfortunately, Captain...25 volumes was indeed what Yagi-sensei has stated would be the last volume of the series.

Do you recall ,by any chance, where did you read/hear this terrible news?It is a sad day indeed.

[hollywoodlou]

Do you recall ,by any chance, where did you read/hear this terrible news?It is a sad day indeed.

2 months ago...and confirmed as well.

[qane]

Hi this mayb off topic but it is the claymore thread well i was just watchin the anime an just got pissed off y did they change it an cut things out they way they have changed the story from the manga makes me wonder if they are going to do a second series cos how r they gna explain the changes theyv made

[hollywoodlou]

Hi this mayb off topic but it is the claymore thread well i was just watchin the anime an just got pissed off y did they change it an cut things out they way they have changed the story from the manga makes me wonder if they are going to do a second series cos how r they gna explain the changes theyv made

You're 'NOT EXACTLY' off topic here because it;s the manga thread...

Regarding the 'changes' from manga to Madhouse: basically madhouse deviated from the manga by:

1) Re-making Raki from a useless hanger-on to a heroic creation from episode 19 onwards. That was the start of the nightmare.

2) The Pieta campaign: Madhouse excluded key scenes that were important in the flow of the story namely:

-the scene where Flora was supposed to challenge Clare to a duel. Flora was supposed to befriend Clare afterwards as a sign of respect...NOT HAVING JEAN BUTT IN...that was a Madhouse F-UP.

-the scene where the "other Claymores' were battling AB's all over the place when Rigald shows up. Where did they go in episode 21?

-the scene where they meet @ the cave as a reunion between the Slashers...the conversation shortened and the "helenisms' were botched big time.

-Undine's full fledge attack verbally on the other Claymores.

*****

Regarding season 2: there wont be a season 2 SIMPLY because THERE IS NO MATERIAL for it.

Let's say theoreticaly that ep 26 ends @ the Cognates of Paradise arc, That's less than 10 scenes UNTIL chapter 73 and Madhouse goes through 10 scenes AS 1 ANIME EPISODE.

You are looking at another 5 years MAximum for season 2.

[hollywoodlou]

gome...didn't realize i pressed the button twice. dbl post

[gr1mmy]

All you did was post a quote

[Podadam]

You are looking at another 5 years MAximum for season 2.

Even if "now" it's 1 scene weekly compared to monthly "before"?

But, with the story change in the anime, is it probable that there will be an ending - period - in it? Like, for example, Clare kills priscillia but shes about to awaken and no one can stop it, so she asks that someone kills her (and obviously Riku will volunteer to die with her). I mean..... Isley and Pric coming to Pieta where Clare is almost awake and Riku snobs in a corner, me thinks thats a final ending right there. All the important characters in one single spot + knowing the episodes will finish soon. What do you think? Probably or not?

But, this is ,of course, unless the author decides to put a new twist so there will be something for season 2. Like, the anime would just go a different path.

On another topic, Ophelia vs Galatea. (What you guys were talking about before). Personally, I really think Ophelia would of won the fight. The reason is quite simple, Galatea manipulates Yoki but , as we know, when there is a lot of brute force involved, like with Duff, it dosn't work. And most importantly, the person with the most brute force ( and being insane at the same time) in the claymore ranks, is (or was) Ophelia (Im probably repeating someone here = ( ).

[Unreal]

:eek: Stop mocking ophelia! Im gonna side with ophelia all the way, with ophelia vs galatea, ophelia is strong minded and been a spammer while fighting which distract galatea's concentration, lol :thumbup:, she also has jelly bones so if her yoki been manupilated, she can just send vibration throught her body and with her natural anger break free. Beside if galatea increase her yoki power, she won't able to do yoki manipulation anymore and get pwned by ripple sword attack, I think she deserves to be #3 as she is "The Eye" of the organisation and is not crazy.

About miria vs ophelia, i think ophelia have the speed to handle her mirage, remember how she outmatched clare's sensing ability with her speed when she can sneak behind and aswell slices her legs off.
If ophelia can handle a awakened being on her own that is stronger than miria and the slashers frought, then that proves its all.

About flora, her windcutter was no match to irene's quicksword, as irene quicksword is twice as fast, clare's quicksword lack speed because shes a 1/4 yoma and she lack precision and accuracy because she cannot fully control it yet.

Shame she a nutter, glad she died before war of pieta, otherwise she send everyone to glorious sucidal attack and be touching clare up infront of rigald and get her head slice off.

[Unreal]

lol Podadam, that reminds me about miata, if that is really galatea, that means galatea will really need to sharpen her technique otherwise she be no match to miata's head splitting strength, maybe she could take clarice hostage or maybe put a milk bottle infront of miata lol.

[Podadam]

maybe she could take clarice hostage

I see that happening lol.

milk bottle infront of miata

Lol, wtf mate?

[hollywoodlou]

Even if "now" it's 1 scene weekly compared to monthly "before"?

Claymore is NOT WEEKLY. Just bec the new shounen is Jump Square "weekly" doesn't mean it is.

Think about this for a sec: you are Norihiro Yagi...you write EACH PAGE (consisting average 25 pages)...that's 25-33 pages)

then you SKETCH, then PENCIL...then LETTER, then submit to the Shuisha for approval, then PRINTING, then DISTRIBUTION not only to Japan BUT overseas as well.

Can all these be done in 7 DAYS??

DC and Marvel release monthly, and they have their own people doing every duty I just mentioned. Yagi-sensei does EVERYTHING by himself except printing.

Besides, Jump Square already announced which anime series is weekly, and Claymore isn;t one of them. It will be released every 1st week...then it's dead for 3 weeks.

But, with the story change in the anime, is it probable that there will be an ending - period - in it? Like, for example, Clare kills priscillia but shes about to awaken and no one can stop it, so she asks that someone kills her (and obviously Riku will volunteer to die with her). I mean..... Isley and Pric coming to Pieta where Clare is almost awake and Riku snobs in a corner, me thinks thats a final ending right there. All the important characters in one single spot + knowing the episodes will finish soon. What do you think? Probably or not?

I have read the Newtype source and it is never wrong. Ep 26 will be an original anime ending and it sucks. Unfortunately, there are no spoiler buttons so I cant post the ending. Good points though...

Stop mocking ophelia! Im gonna side with ophelia all the way, with ophelia vs galatea, ophelia is strong minded and been a spammer while fighting which distract galatea's concentration, lol

Ophelia will win NOT because she's "strong minded" ...it's rather the opposite. She's a SOCIOPATH. Her brain is irrational and her subconscious more twisted than a rollercoaster.
She will win vs her opponents based on her personality...NOT SKILL. You see if it's Galatea who uses her yoki controlling abilities vs Ophy, she will lose because Ophy's mind must be "in doubt" or "weak". It's not. It's irrational ergo, Gal's tricks wont work.

About miria vs ophelia, i think ophelia have the speed to handle her mirage, remember how she outmatched clare's sensing ability with her speed when she can sneak behind and aswell slices her legs off.
If ophelia can handle a awakened being on her own that is stronger than miria and the slashers frought, then that proves its all.


Ophelia will lose to Miria because Miria's phantom technique has evolved in 7 years into a faster, but more controlled technique which doesn't tire her mentally as before.
IF Ophelia is so fast...how come she got her *** handed to her by Irene?
Besides, Miria accdg to Deneve @ Pieta has faced much "horrendous" AB's since the Slashers' arc as punishment for sticking her nose in investigations...

[Hynavian]

On another topic, Ophelia vs Galatea. (What you guys were talking about before). Personally, I really think Ophelia would of won the fight. The reason is quite simple, Galatea manipulates Yoki but , as we know, when there is a lot of brute force involved, like with Duff, it dosn't work. And most importantly, the person with the most brute force ( and being insane at the same time) in the claymore ranks, is (or was) Ophelia (Im probably repeating someone here = ( ).

It seems like the prezzy was out-numbered as many are siding that Ophelia will win :eban:

Now I think there's some under-estimation to Galatea's abilities. There's an assumption that Galatea's Yoki manipulation skill will not work against Ophelia as Ophelia is strong minded and will go all out.

However take note that Galatea does not necessarily have to use her Yoki manipulating skills on Ophelia. (EDIT: For Galatea, her advantage will be her ability to read the movements of Ophelia in this case.) She could have gone on a head on clash with Ophelia using Yoki powers and they can have a barbaric fight. Oh wait a minute....I think it's against Galatea's idea of beauty to use her Yoki powers ya :lol:

[hollywoodlou]

It seems like the prezzy was out-numbered as many are siding that Ophelia will win :eban:

Now I think there's some under-estimation to Galatea's abilities. There's an assumption that Galatea's Yoki manipulation skill will not work against Ophelia as Ophelia is strong minded and will go all out.

However take note that Galatea does not necessarily have to use her Yoki manipulating skills on Ophelia. (EDIT: For Galatea, her advantage will be her ability to read the movements of Ophelia in this case.) She could have gone on a head on clash with Ophelia using Yoki powers and they can have a barbaric fight. Oh wait a minute....I think it's against Galatea's idea of beauty to use her Yoki powers ya :lol:

You know what CO PREZ...I'll back you up as the OTHER CO-PREZ.
Galatea CAN WIN vs Ophelia.
I stated previously that Ophy will win BUt I forgot the tangible you mentioned...

IF Galatea raises her yoki powers AND OPHY does the same, Galatea will win.

WHY? Galatea's mind is much more focused than Ophelia's screwed up irrational, sociopath brain. Galatea's brain can manipulate yoki PLUS her yoki sensing abilities EVEN SURPASSES Clare's.

2nd; IF Ophelia is so 'STRONG MINDED' as some posters claim...how come she WASNT SO STRONG MINDED to keep her yoki in check and AWAKENED after getting her *** handed to her by Irene\?
*****

I should be a lawyer, i can switch sides lol.

[Hynavian]

You know what CO PREZ...I'll back you up as the OTHER CO-PREZ.
Galatea CAN WIN vs Ophelia.

Yeah! I have a supporter now! :eban: (Come lets do the victory dance)


2nd; IF Ophelia is so 'STRONG MINDED' as some posters claim...how come she WASNT SO STRONG MINDED to keep her yoki in check and AWAKENED after getting her *** handed to her by Irene\?

Damn co prezzy...I'll back you on this.

Co-prez, do you find it abit ridiculous that Ophelia awakened just because she's gotten scratched all over by Irene's Quick Sword attack. Ophelia is definitely a strange character who does things that are not the norms. Galatea is more rational and stong-willed to some extent as Yoki manipulation is no easy task (for the mind) and she did not awaken herself after being beaten up by an awakened being (Dulph).

[hollywoodlou]

Yeah! I have a supporter now! :eban: (Come lets do the victory dance)



Co-prez, do you find it abit ridiculous that Ophelia awakened just because she's gotten scratched all over by Irene's Quick Sword attack. Ophelia is definitely a strange character who does things that are not the norms. Galatea is more rational and stong-willed to some extent as Yoki manipulation is no easy task (for the mind) and she did not awaken herself after being beaten up by an awakened being (Dulph).

I was for Ophelia previously but you gave an angle that wasn't mentioned...Ophelia is NOT strong minded but irrational. PLUS Irene kicking her *** nudged me to your corner.

Ophelia: "onii san" (crying)...I thought you're going to protect me" LOL:lol:

[sempur]

hmm i was watching claymore epi 23, jesus in every battle clare is becoming more stronger ahahahahah. Mind and body together concentrating wrath of awakeking(something like that heh)

[pigpie]

Episode 23.

Priscilla showed a very scared face at the last part when she was sensing the Yoki.I think that it is because she felt Teresas' yoki coming out from Clare

[hollywoodlou]

Episode 23.

Priscilla showed a very scared face at the last part when she was sensing the Yoki.I think that it is because she felt Teresas' yoki coming out from Clare

of course.

[Hynavian]

For those who have not watched episode 23, you might want to skip this post. I'm trying to figure out Galatea's role in the upcoming episode.

It appears that my heroine will be appearing for the next episode and will be using at least 10percent of her Yoki powers as her eyes do change colour. I cannot figure out which part in the manga that is after the Pieta war where Galatea appears and use 10pc of her powers. Hence, my conclusion is that Madhouse wrote a totally new story for Galatea in the anime.

Now this is my ridiculous speculations on the role of Galatea from EP24-26

Galatea is going to run to Pieta, see Jeane get killed by Clare, and get herself kick around by Isley+Priscilla. And then she will awaken, make everyone awaken (including Miria and gang). Later she will command the other awakened beings and let them battle Isley's other underlings (that disappeared since Rigardo called them back) while the Big 4 (Miria and gang) will battle it out with the antagonists in a 4 vs 2 battle. After eliminating Pris+Isley, the Big4 and Galatea will march all the way South to destroy Luciela+Rafaela, and then march West to destroy Riful+Dulph. And finally march East to detroy the organisation. Big4+Galatea then will engage in a "Last Woman Standing" competition where there will only be one survivor. The winner will be Clare. Raki will then appear and end Clare's life somehow and then he will end his life as well.

====THE END====

My ending rocks! :cookies:

[pigpie]

Co-Pres,your ending sounds weird,in a funny way.I doubt they will awaken because Claymores don't want to awaken as it is like a shame to them.
I guess Galatea will appear to help Clare revert back to normal,or maybe she is there to see Alicia and Clare,Plus i don't think that the eye belongs to Glatea because I check the hair parting,Galatea is to the right whil the eye one is to the left,i thinks its Jean because she will still need to repay Clare the debt in which she owes her.

[hollywoodlou]

Madhouse wrote a totally new story for Galatea in the anime.

Now this is my ridiculous speculations on the role of Galatea from EP24-26

Galatea is going to run to Pieta, see Jeane get killed by Clare, and get herself kick around by Isley+Priscilla. And then she will awaken, make everyone awaken (including Miria and gang). Later she will command the other awakened beings and let them battle Isley's other underlings (that disappeared since Rigardo called them back) while the Big 4 (Miria and gang) will battle it out with the antagonists in a 4 vs 2 battle. After eliminating Pris+Isley, the Big4 and Galatea will march all the way South to destroy Luciela+Rafaela, and then march West to destroy Riful+Dulph. And finally march East to detroy the organisation. Big4+Galatea then will engage in a "Last Woman Standing" competition where there will only be one survivor. The winner will be Clare. Raki will then appear and end Clare's life somehow and then he will end his life as well.

====THE END====

My ending rocks! :cookies:

Your ending rocks...BECAUSE RAKI DIES. YTF do you have to include Clare's death in it? I was happy...then sad. Galatea should die and let Clare live. I like Clare when she suffers.:cool:

[Hynavian]

Co-Pres,your ending sounds weird,in a funny way.I doubt they will awaken because Claymores don't want to awaken as it is like a shame to them.

My speculated ending should not sound "normal". It'll be weird if you like my ending though :)

And of course my speculated ending rocks co-prez!

[hollywoodlou]

And of course my speculated ending rocks co-prez!

I repeat..because Raki the brat dies.:p

****Hey guys, we're on page 19 now...

[Hynavian]

I repeat..because Raki the brat dies.:p

****Hey guys, we're on page 19 now...

Maybe I should make you like my "speculated ending" more by adding in more plot twists like.....

"Teresa rose from the dead. And using her Yoki powers swinged her Claymore and chopped Priscilla's head off. After having her revenge, she then return back to heaven as a happy woman :)"

Omg, Im getting more and more far-fetched.

[hollywoodlou]

Maybe I should make you like my "speculated ending" more by adding in more plot twists like.....

"Teresa rose from the dead. And using her Yoki powers swinged her Claymore and chopped Priscilla's head off. After having her revenge, she then return back to heaven as a happy woman :)"

Omg, Im getting more and more far-fetched.

Do...NOT...tease...the co-prez of this forum. I'm drooling right now lol

Why not ep 26 Hollywoodlou style:

"As Priscilla awakens in her magnificent powerful form that slayed the great Teresa and before she swings her sword to deal the final blow to Clare...Clare explodes in a huge fireball of yoki power.

Priscilla the Abyssal finally shakes in terror as Clare splits INTO 2. The first is Clare holding her Claymore form together while the second...Teresa RE-BORN. The Greatest Claymore has returned!

Teresa: Priscilla, you have fooled me for the last time and death will be your new home. You must perish so my Clare can live. Today my vengeance is absolute.

Priscilla: I've killed you before and I can do it again.

Battle ensues..."

That's kickass.

of course, Raki dies in there somewhere...

[pigpie]

Why not it happens like this.
Galatea appears and remove her mask and she turns out to be Teresa.And Clare will be wondering:No wonder she can manipulate Yoki,so well because she is Teresa,Yoki sensing professional.Teresa/Galatea than kills Raki because he made Clare his fav person and Teresa is jealous,so chop off his head.Than Priscilla come and start shakin at the sight the Teresa/Galatea,and awakens,but at the process of awakening Clare jumos in and slice of Priscilla wings before it sprouted to its full glory.The others see it and jump in to join the fun of slicing Priscilla limp be limp,flesh by flesh....(i am so sadistic,Oh My Gosh).Teresa /Galatea than join in the fun to slice off Priscilla head,like what Priscilla did to Teresa,REVENGE,Isley than starts to get scared and start shivering,since transformation takes time,he is scared it will happen to him as well,so he starts whimpering like a pretty face boy.Than Riful anf Luciella enters the scene to make an apperance for the ???ending??? and we will all be "HUH?WHAT THE HELL"

[Asesino]

o.O Sup pplz...srry I been out of it lately...skools a b1tch XP...So much reading to do =\

Oh I didnt get to thank hollywoodlou for that link so Ty Alot bro I really appreciate it
Also to hynavian for welcome...though it may be long overdue xP

Scene 3 was sexc...(I'm guessing I'm the last to have seen it =3)

-Asesino-

[hollywoodlou]

o.O Sup pplz...srry I been out of it lately...skools a b1tch XP...So much reading to do =\

Oh I didnt get to thank hollywoodlou for that link so Ty Alot bro I really appreciate it
Also to hynavian for welcome...though it may be long overdue xP

Scene 3 was sexc...(I'm guessing I'm the last to have seen it =3)

-Asesino-

Anytime bro!;)

Poor Rigald...no wonder he went wild @ Pieta. He got his a** kicked by BOTh Pris & Isley, so the only people he could kick around were weaker Claymores. LOL

[echo]

Hey! I'm new here. Iniatially, i came in just to ask what happen to the claymore manga. But while reading through some of your post, i found them quite interesting. Unfortunately, i skipped alot of post since im actually at work right now and i don't have alot of time to read. Anyway, hope its okay with you guys if i join in sometime. And ohh.. i found the answer to my question. So no need for a reply. Thanx!

[Asesino]

I know right xP..Silly lion...trix are for strong awakened beings :-|

-Asesino-

[Asesino]

Hiya echo ^_^ I...guess I'll be the welcome wagon..seeing no-one else is on :-\

I joined here a few days ago...its pretty kool get to talk with koo' ppl..and argue points about one of the sexciest anime/manga EVER! =3

Good to have u around hope u got alot of knowledge on claymore...cuz these guys sure as hell do....lol

Hope ya have fun, and all that jazz =D

-Asesino- ^_^

[pigpie]

Ello echo welcome to the forum.

By what happen to the manga what do you mean?
1)Progression Of Storyline?
OR
2)wHY THE Manga Stop?

If it is why the manga stop,it is temporarily because the producers change to another magazine so the temporary stop.

Saddest Scene In The Anime.\
I was watching Episode 8 recently and i tink that the last scene when Teresa died was very sad,The way Clare held on to Teresa head.It is that scene that seriously make me piss of at Priscilla.Than again if Teresa was to kill Priscilla,she will be dislike as well right?As in if she DID kill Priscilla,than she will be killing a young girl.

Episode 14

One scene Ophelia said everything that happened to her was Clare fault...So True

Clare made Teresa softhearted and also made Teresa love Clare in a Sisterly Way or Motherly Way,so Teresa killed the bandits when found out they harm Clare,than Org find Teresa to kill her which sent out a group including Priscilla,fight fight fight,teresa win,but becoz soft hearted so didn't kill Priscilla.Priscilla awakened wreck havoc and Opheila is one of the victim of the aftermath so she turn to claymore and later awakened because she met Clare.


Clare is like a freaking bad luck charm.

1)Cause Teresa death
2)Cause Raki to get messed up in the situation
3)Cause Irenes to get found by Rafaella
BUT
at least she saved some asses
1)Miria
2)Helen
3)Deneve
4)Jean

[asanta]

should this thread be closed?

page 20 already. o.O

[nhy390]

Hey everyone, welcome to all new-comers!!

Right, I trhink I will jump on the Galatea band wagon! I think she would kick Ophillia's butt, but it would not be an easy fight. Galatea is not just yogi manipulating, she is also seriously good with her sword as we saw against Duph. Ultimately there is a reason she is #3, and it is not (just) because she is a pretty face. But Ophilia would do some damage. I think it was appropriate how she went over the edge when she was beaten. Suitable for such a loony!

Now, I have skipped most of the post for ep. 23 as I will watch it over lunch and then add my highly intelligent comment (probably in the form of rank over my anger of the mutilation of a brilliant manga). However, I read through your thoughts on the ending, and I must admit I did like Hollywood's idea with Theresa coming back. Has anybody thought that maybe at the ending there will be some kind of involvement from the 2 Godesses of Love (Theresa and Clare)? It struck me that they are on a lot of covers and in the opening of the anime A LOT! SO I was wondering if there is more to come on that. Any thought?

Thanks everybody for not ruining it for me! I really appreicate it. You really bring a tear to my eye. You are the best community I have ever been with! You guys ROCK!

[pigpie]

I don't think the Goddess will appear.It is just a representation of Clare and Teresa,on how close they are.So in a way they are important because they are a representation of Teresa and Clare,but also not important because they don't play an important role in the anime.

[nhy390]

You may be right! I just throught it was strange because Theresa was killed off a long time ago, so I find it suspicious that she is still all over the opening. And then in that village before the Depth of Purgatory story arc it popped up again. Maybe you are right. Im just speculating.

[chezkimo]

Don't worry people, i think they close it downh when it gets to 200 posts.

anyway, ont he topic of Gal vs Ophy. I didn't say that Ophelia is mentally strong i said that she was like full throtle, you know, her mind is like concentrate on killing to the max! but i disagree, her mind is not in doubt, her mind is set on *KILL*. escpecially when she faces a strong opponent like Gal, so she wouldn't hold back. and i didn't say either that Gals yoki manipulation dosn't work AT ALL if ohpelia makes head on attacks, i said it'll definalty be less effective. meaning, it'll probably still work but sometimes it won't. if you ask me, i think those two will be on par and it will be one of those things were one strike of open weakness determins the fight.

and the guy who said ophelia said "its' all your fault", i'm sure she wasn't talking about clare, i'm sure she was talking about her dead brother.

and the reason ophelia waekened. think of it like this, not only did she have the thoughts of her brother in her head. but the fact is i think the real reason ophelia likes to fight and kill so much is because she needs to test herself regularly, she needs to make sure she can be the strongest so that she can be strong enough to kill the "one horned monster" that killed her brother, and i think this made her go off track with her true goal of revenge and just started concentrating on all awakened beings, even half awakened claymores. but anyway, with irene kicking her *** so easily (remember irene was an incredibly strong and skillful warrior, she wasn't #2 just for her flash sword) she was like

"how could she defeat me, i must defeat her no matter what (coz if i can't be the strongest i can't avenge my brother) but then the thoughts of her brother may her go off the edge. Explanation explained.

PS where can i find extra scene #3. i thought i heard people saying that they read jt?

[iLoveZoro]

@chezkimo : just below claymore on the list http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore_Extra_Scene/

claymore would have overtaken air gear on OM Rank if the main story and extra scenes were unified.

[pigpie]

Ophelia Vs Galatea,if these two fight it will be a very hard to decide who wins or lose.But if you check by rank,Galatea is higher,and smarter while Ophelia is a big whacko and kinda rushy.So Galatea has an upper hand,plus she can manipulate yoki,so when Ophelia is rippling her sword,all Galatea has to do is just manipulate the arm and stop it from vibrating.Ophelia special attack is the rippling sword which cannot be block by normal methods.

[nhy390]

Not only that, the rippling sword is difficult toread. Remember Clare couldnt read where she was going to strike, and she is suppose to be pretty good at reading the flow! It would indeed be a tough one.

[chezkimo]

yep,well said. nhy390. and also actually the riplling sowrd will be hard to stop in terms of gal manipulating her yoki and stopping the rippling sword because it's moving so much so fast it's hard to "lock onto" the flow of yoki of her right arm and so hard to control it also. 202th post, 21st page, should we create a 4th thread or something?

[nhy390]

Not sure, leave it to the prezos. I dont know much about this stuff! I just write here!

Right, I finished watcing ep. 23. Not as bad as I feared, but Raki still makes my blood boil. Cool fight scene! Loving the action. I wish someone would shut Priscilla up good and proper. She is annoying the hell out of me! But it was good. Sorry to see raki make it through. I think next episode might see some fighting with Isley or/and Priscilla. She is bound to have recognised the yogi from Clare as that of Theresa! Sounds like Holywood's prophesy could come true!

[nhy390]

Hey guys, I started a new thread. but as the dumba** that I am I also called it Claymore 3. Sorry about that. Dont know if there is a way to change it. See you there.