MSN: Future Partners

[Shadow_Vankei]

Who do you think will be Negi's next four partners? State why.
I say all four sports girls. They've been highlighted for a while now so I think they are up next.
Makie & Yuuna before the fight with Fate or shortly after in a calm-down after this arc.
Ako after the "Nagi" deal is resolved.
Akira ...Dunno when for her. I still say, Negi is going to make a nineth Pactio before this arc is over. < <

[~Chi-u_Chi-u~]

so when you said four , i think of Sport girls Ako , Akira , Makie , Yuuna

and i think they are the most possible to pactio next because now they are in MM are they are knows about magic (except Ako) , but it will happen if their abilities or their artifact are necessary in that situation , like Cazumi one that necessary for searching members and finding news so Negi pactio with her

[Shadow_Vankei]

Ako knows about magic. Now atleast. Negi.. I mean Nagi. Used magic right infront of her.

[Sakura of the CrimsonSky]

I'll find it hard to believe if Ken gives the non-Negima club members pactios before the rest of the members get their's first. The sports girls will get it if they join the club.
1. Ku, because she's his martial arts master and she has no magic abilities or weapons.
2. Chachamaru, because she has the Negi crush.
3. Kaede, because she's the other Negima member without a card.

Makie or Yuna would probably be the first non-club members to pactio if Ken decides to not give Negima members their pactios first.

[mikeocheskey]

I'll find it hard to believe if Ken gives the non-Negima club members pactios before the rest of the members get their's first. The sports girls will get it if they join the club.
1. Ku, because she's his martial arts master and she has no magic abilities or weapons.
2. Chachamaru, because she has the Negi crush.
3. Kaede, because she's the other Negima member without a card.

Makie or Yuna would probably be the first non-club members to pactio if Ken decides to not give Negima members their pactios first.

Can Chachamaru even pactio with Negi? I mean, first off, she's already Eva's ministra. Second, since she is a ministra and doesn't have a pactio card I would think it is impossible for her to pactio because she is a gynoid. Although I would like Kaede to have an artifact, I don't think she will pactio with Negi. Akamatsu made her powerful enough that she doesn't need it (sort of like how Setsuna pactio-ed with Negi and rarely uses her artifact).

My guess would be Makie because Ken already showed her learning magic; Yuuna because she is the daughter or two mages; Akira because she would be a good asset with her strength and speed; and Iincho because her fake pactio card had the color gold on it which is supposed to be the rarest type of artifact. She could come in handy when they return from the Magic World and a new story arc forms.

[craven]

Who do you think will be Negi's next four partners? State why.
I say all four sports girls. < <

Nah! I think that the 5 stow a ways will have their memory erased/altered after they leave MM

Can Chachamaru even pactio with Negi? I mean, first off, she's already Eva's ministra. Second, since she is a ministra and doesn't have a pactio card I would think it is impossible for her to pactio because she is a gynoid.

At the end of school trip where Eva gets to show off her prowess, Cha-cha Zero was shown to have a large swords with words "Ministra Magi Cha-cha Zero" I think this indicates that she have a pacio card.

It's just my speculation though, if a puppet can have a pacio card then a gynoid can have one too. (after all her power source is a magic energy)

Another related but off topic statement: "Setchan will have another pacio card in MM and that is with Konoka."

[Sakura of the CrimsonSky]

Chachamaru's artifact weapon in the anime were missiles from her body.

Setsuna's artifacts ability is only to split into 24 daggers, and that allows her to use her other Shinmeiryuu attacks. Other than being able to split up, it's the same as her usual katana.

[Bartl]

Can Chachamaru even pactio with Negi?
Of course she can! Be ready to see a goddamn Gundam ^^

[craven]

I'm not saying that chachamaru has a pactio, it's hard to find any indication of that.

All I'm saying is that she can (she's already an individual entity just as Chao mentioned on her parting)

[Quietknight]

Well if I put my 2 cents worth in, Kaede and Fei Ku would have to think on how powerful they can get with being Negi's partner. Makie and Yuna most likely will be up next. But with Yuna, she doesn't know her parents are magi. And her dad might not want Yuna involved with magic yet. The protective parent that wants Yuna to be an ordinary kid first. Makie is a given even before they went to this arc in the story. Was only a matter of time. Akira would be interesting to see because we know she would protect Negi despite being not being happy with him right now. Ako should be another interesting case. We will finally learn about the scar more. Ayaka would also be in the next group because of Negi's cousin. I am thinking that Ayaka will protect Negi when Asuna can't. Chacha would probably love to make one, but will hesitate for now do to her Master and her doubt if she could. Hakase will have to 'study' if she could.

[Eger-kun]

I'm not saying that chachamaru has a pactio, it's hard to find any indication of that.

she already have a pactio with eva right... and her pactio item is a big gun (railgun i think) she use it against the Kyoto Demon right
http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/51/14/

For future partners: We all know that Ku Fei and Kaede should really have a pactio with Negi ... The four sport girls too. but I think Ako will be reluctant if she finds out that Negi is "Nagi".

[craven]

she already have a pactio with eva right... and her pactio item is a big gun (railgun i think) she use it against the Kyoto Demon right

Dunno! doesn't artifacts have an inscribe word on it: something like "ministra magi..."

[Magister Magi 13]

I totally wish that Ku and Kaede are Negi's new partners, it got me excited just to think about what their artifact are. And the other two could probably be Makie and Akira since they seems to pay interest in Negi himself.

[~Chi-u_Chi-u~]

so how many percent that Anya will be next like

next chapter she come back and decided to make pactio with Negi :D


and i think that if Ku and Kaede will pactio next they will be more stronger and their artifact quite be useful with their abilities

[Sakura of the CrimsonSky]

she already have a pactio with eva right... and her pactio item is a big gun (railgun i think) she use it against the Kyoto Demon right
http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/51/14/

For future partners: We all know that Ku Fei and Kaede should really have a pactio with Negi ... The four sport girls too. but I think Ako will be reluctant if she finds out that Negi is "Nagi".
We don't know if that's her artifact. It could be one of Hakase's weapons for all we know, and Chachamaru borrowed it from her. Chachamaru's armor card artifact is the best of all the pactio cards.

[Twi]

so how many percent that Anya will be next like

next chapter she come back and decided to make pactio with Negi :D


and i think that if Ku and Kaede will pactio next they will be more stronger and their artifact quite be useful with their abilities

Those 2 rely on their own strength, so even when they get their artifacts they probably won't use them too much

[Magister Magi 13]

Those 2 rely on their own strength, so even when they get their artifacts they probably won't use them too much

Although I would really love to see Ku and Kaede's artifacts.

[Disgaea13]

Given the current sitution it's possible Negi might form Pactios with both the remaining Ala Alba girls, Sports Girls, and Natsumi. Mainly for everyone to keep in contact with eachother, give an extra power boost to those like Kaede, Ku, and Chachamaru, and give the Sports Girls and Natsumi means to protect themselves. Besides the moment Yuna and Makie learn about Pactio they'll be dragging the others in. Though given her current circumstances I doubt Sayo will be part of it.

Plus, There was also foreshadowing about Chachamaru forming a Pactio in chapter 190: In a flashback Eva tells Chachamaru to follow her heart during the trip.

Also we know that Akamatsu has given sixteen of the girls official Pactios though only half have appeared in the Manga. Pity only two of those from the remaining half (Ako and Makie) are in the Magic World.

Anyways I'm on a Onemanga strike till the end of summer then again till Christmas wish me luck!

[Disgaea13]

Hit the post by accident before I could finish. Anyways Let me reword that last part that in case anyone misunderstood (probally just being paranoid I'm not going to read any more manga till those appointed dates. THe week long cliff hangers can get grating. Know what I mean?

[Rakath]

I'd say Makie and Ako are the main picks. Both have real card designs already (legit ones with all the latin on the cards) and are in the Magic world with the others. Neither one is quite at the level of the 3 remaining Ala Alba members without cards when it comes to defending themselves (Makie is close however). Both also have romantic reasons to kiss Negi (well, Ako has reason to kiss Nagi).

Ku and Chachamaru are up next, both are also ranked in the top 10 for being after Negi. Chamo could easily set-up either to kiss Negi and they wouldn't refuse (nearly as much as Yue did).

Kaede and the rest of the Sports Girls I don't really see, possible Yuuna due to her magical father. Kaede does not need an artifact and I think her having an artifact would be along the lines of Zaraki Kenpachi having a Bankai. The world would be rended naught by the sheer unending awesome.

[oran65]

or it could be less useful like setsuna, but it would be good to have transport and telepathy

[Magister Magi 13]

or it could be less useful like setsuna, but it would be good to have transport and telepathy

How is Setsuna artifact useless?

[Souken]

So in summary:

Targets likely of a Pactio

1) Ku Fei
2) Kaede
3) Yuna
4) Makie
5) Ako
6) Akira
7) Ayaka

Is Kotaro considered a mage in any sense? I think Natsumi might prefer to pactio with him instead, seriously. ;)

And anyway, excluding Ku Fei and Kaede (because of their awesome prowess without an artifact), 3~7 already have pactio card designs somewhere, and usually the anime artifacts' power often try to reflect what powers they will have in the manga.

Pactio card designs (some are from the anime)


http://homepage.mac.com/sp831/lovehina/makiecard.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/sp831/lovehina/akiracard.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/sp831/lovehina/natsumicard.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/sp831/lovehina/feikucard.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/sp831/lovehina/yuunacard.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/sp831/lovehina/ayakacard.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/sp831/lovehina/kaedecard.jpg


Don't you find it weird only certain characters from the anime have released pactio card designs? Currently all the closely speculated all have released pactio card designs, including Chizuru, the twins, Hakase, the 3 cheerleaders, Sayo. Another freaky coincidence (maybe?) are all the listed girls are in the current arc of the manga, excluding some who stayed back at Negi's hometown.

[Rakath]

The Anime design Pactio's hardly count due to the bumrush release of all of them during the reworked Mahora Fair arc. Even the closest Anime to Manga pactio (I think Paru's cards are rather similer, but still different). Honestly, Kaede's card is her Shuriken she has from the end of the Kyoto trip arc (which is just her own epic). Akira's will probably be water based, Yuuna's might be Basketball based but its equally like to awaken her own magic and be generally sports based.

Also, Kotaro is an Eastern Mage, him taking a Pactio unless under duress would be something he'd HATE. Also I recall his magic got sealed after the Kyoto Trip arc.

[jakerose20]

his magic are his inugami ( the shadow dogs and the shadow rasengan )
he couldn't use them against herman , but he got them back , he used them against al
but i agree i also don't think eastern mages are making paticos , and his personality also doesnt help he would never let a girl fight fore him

[Rakath]

His Eastern Magics (the ability to use Summon Charms to create creatures to fight alongside him like the other Kyoto arc villains) were sealed before the Herman arc. Technically so was his Demon form but that didn't last (he tried to transform against Ku:Nel). Most of his abilities are Ki abilities, not Magic.

However everything about him says a Pactio wouldn't be his deal. He'd only do it if he HAD to, and even then he'd be immature and as anti-Negi as he can be.

[mikeocheskey]

How is Setsuna artifact useless?

Her artifact isn't useless, but it is of limited use. The swords she can summon aren't as strong as her sword, so they break easily. Especially when she splits them into larger numbers. Her card really only has a few uses: telepathy, teleportation, replacement/extra swords if her sword isn't around or she gets disarmed, and multi-directional attacks like she used against Chao.
http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima%21/134/06/

Also, Kotaro is an Eastern Mage, him taking a Pactio unless under duress would be something he'd HATE. Also I recall his magic got sealed after the Kyoto Trip arc.

Kotaro isn't an Eastern Magi, he is a half-demon like Setsuna. He is either an arctic wolf or arctic fox demon. Some translations call him a wolf and others a fox. The spider he used and the charms he used the first time he fought Negi weren't his. They were that Chiguse's. His power resides in Lycanthropy and his Inugami which he can summon because of his demon heritage. If he were a Magi he would need incantations or seals like Setsuna uses in order to summon them, but he doesn't.

[Rakath]

Kinda surprised Kotaro even used those Summon charms (his or not) considering how he plays up the self-taught-demon-fighter-ninja aspect (even when introduced). Misunderstood how he got the charms, that makes more sense than them being his. Also he's way more likely the wolf Demon (due to abilities, desgin, and remarkable simiarities to Inu Yasha).

I'm hoping Makie is the next Pactio partner, I'm guessing based on the card released with her Single CD she gets five artifacts (a set of weapons rather).

[mikeocheskey]

His lycanthropy design reminds me of the fox demon from YuYu Hakusho (can't remember his name). I haven't seen that series in years. He has more fox characteristics than wolf when he transforms, but he uses inugami instead of kitsugami.

http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima%21/41/14/

[Rakath]

Demon form Kurama, Inu Yasha, and Kotaro all seem to pull from the same basic design. Long white hair, white ears, tail (I don't think Inu Yasha has a tail, but that's a detail). His characteristics when he transforms the opposite way (Period 63) are much more of a Dog than a Fox. Everything about him leads to Dog or Wolf than Fox.

[Souken]

The Anime design Pactio's hardly count due to the bumrush release of all of them during the reworked Mahora Fair arc. Even the closest Anime to Manga pactio (I think Paru's cards are rather similer, but still different). Honestly, Kaede's card is her Shuriken she has from the end of the Kyoto trip arc (which is just her own epic). Akira's will probably be water based, Yuuna's might be Basketball based but its equally like to awaken her own magic and be generally sports based.

Also, Kotaro is an Eastern Mage, him taking a Pactio unless under duress would be something he'd HATE. Also I recall his magic got sealed after the Kyoto Trip arc.

Thanks for the explanation on Kotaro though, not that it affects me but too bad for you Natsumi. :devil: (Oh my, does that mean Kotaro x Negi Pactio is possible? :P) Among the Pactio cards from the anime, Makie's card looks the most realistic in terms of Manga comparison. I think she's quite likely to be next. Given Yuna's crazy temperament, she'll probably want one after seeing Makie's card.

Regarding Kaede and Ku Fei, I really can't imagine their artifact's powers seeing their normal prowess is already that good. I do agree Ku Fei might need a boost from a pactio though, remember the part where she tried to attack Fate? Not only it missed but no damage was taken, against magic users, being too physical doesn't seem to help.

I still have faith that a Natsumi X Kotaro pactio might happen because of this: http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima%21/201/04/

[Magister Magi 13]

Natsumi and Kotarou is still something that's far from done . . . and I mean really far.

[Souken]

Natsumi and Kotarou is still something that's far from done . . . and I mean really far.

It's fine, I'm not expecting to happen anyway but in my point of view Natsumi is the least likely to form a pactio with Negi anytime now. The Manga and Anime seems to hold a few similarities especially with pactio outfits and artifacts/powers.

I just noted another similarity here (excluding Asuna and Setsuna):

http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima%21/62/09/ (http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima%21/62/09/)

Everyone else's pactio outfits are similar to their Anime counterparts. :D (what the heck is Ku Fei holding in that image?)

[Mongo5817]

For future partners: We all know that Ku Fei and Kaede should really have a pactio with Negi ...

Problem here is that Ki energy conflicts with magic energy (see chapter 60: http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima%21/60/). There are only 3 people that we know who can synthesize Ki and Magic Energy (Kanka): Asuna, Takahata, and Gateau(?). The pactios wouldn't boost them. But the artifacts make me curious.

[Magister Magi 13]

Problem here is that Ki energy conflicts with magic energy (see chapter 60: http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima%21/60/). There are only 3 people that we know who can synthesize Ki and Magic Energy (Kanka): Asuna, Takahata, and Gateau(?). The pactios wouldn't boost them. But the artifacts make me curious.

I just wanna see their artifacts, that's what I'm saying.

[Krillin_the_Doomed]

Thanks for the explanation on Kotaro though, not that it affects me but too bad for you Natsumi. :devil: (Oh my, does that mean Kotaro x Negi Pactio is possible? :P) Among the Pactio cards from the anime, Makie's card looks the most realistic in terms of Manga comparison. I think she's quite likely to be next. Given Yuna's crazy temperament, she'll probably want one after seeing Makie's card.

Regarding Kaede and Ku Fei, I really can't imagine their artifact's powers seeing their normal prowess is already that good. I do agree Ku Fei might need a boost from a pactio though, remember the part where she tried to attack Fate? Not only it missed but no damage was taken, against magic users, being too physical doesn't seem to help.

I still have faith that a Natsumi X Kotaro pactio might happen because of this: http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima%21/201/04/

WOW! I completly forgot that. Well Natsumi is problably Kotaro's only likly partener(After all their relationship mirrors Negi&Asuna's on a few ponts) I don't think his code would allow it to happen. Also his magic is not disabled, if it was then how could he be fighting now. Ako will probably be at the end of this arc thinking it is "Nagi" then Makie sometime down the road.

[Magister Magi 13]

WOW! I completly forgot that. Well Natsumi is problably Kotaro's only likly partener(After all their relationship mirrors Negi&Asuna's on a few ponts) I don't think his code would allow it to happen. Also his magic is not disabled, if it was then how could he be fighting now. Ako will probably be at the end of this arc thinking it is "Nagi" then Makie sometime down the road.

I think Kotarou's magic was sealed for a short while (during the Wilhem arc) and was later unsealed when he's official under the care of Konoemon.

[Eger-kun]

Problem here is that Ki energy conflicts with magic energy (see chapter 60: http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima%21/60/). There are only 3 people that we know who can synthesize Ki and Magic Energy (Kanka): Asuna, Takahata, and Gateau(?). The pactios wouldn't boost them. But the artifacts make me curious.
well Setsuna pactio card does work.... the thing is the user can choose to use magic and ki separately you know

[Magister Magi 13]

well Setsuna pactio card does work.... the thing is the user can choose to use magic and ki separately you know

Magic and Ki are two separate things in the first place.

[Eger-kun]

Magic and Ki are two separate things in the first place.

yup and that was I was saying........but no wonder since Ku and Kaede are already overdue as Negi's pactio partners wonder what artifact they will get?

[Souken]

yup and that was I was saying........but no wonder since Ku and Kaede are already overdue as Negi's pactio partners wonder what artifact they will get?

Probably just another tiny boost to their already awesome prowess. Setsuna's artifact is a good example of what they might get, even though the anime/secret pictures can provide some clues. (In both, they showed Ku Fei's artifact to be a pair of Tonfas, Kaede's wasn't shown but the anime showed it to be a giant shuriken which she already has in the manga)

[Eger-kun]

from what I remember Ku Fei never had a tonfa , Chao has it in Negima!? ....hmm maybe she is more suited if she hold a Dao or a Nun-chaku and for Kaede the big shuriken would suit her best

[~Chi-u_Chi-u~]

from what I remember Ku Fei never had a tonfa , Chao has it in Negima!? ....hmm maybe she is more suited if she hold a Dao or a Nun-chaku and for Kaede the big shuriken would suit her best

Ku have Tonfa from her artifact in Negima! , but in manga she havent use it yet , and i think that Tonfa and Nun-Chaku are suit with Ku , because all of them are Chinese's weapons :lol:

and Kaede also suit with her Shuriken and Kunai

[Magister Magi 13]

But I think it might be better if she can have something else for her artifact beside her huge shuriken, since she already has one in the first place.

[Souken]

But I think it might be better if she can have something else for her artifact beside her huge shuriken, since she already has one in the first place.

A even bigger shuriken? :P

[Eger-kun]

But I think it might be better if she can have something else for her artifact beside her huge shuriken, since she already has one in the first place.

Kunai or Exploding tags ....huh then she's turn more like Narutoworld Ninja

[craven]

I have no problem with that, No sir.

That will maintain the diversity of fighting styles

[Mongo5817]

well Setsuna pactio card does work.... the thing is the user can choose to use magic and ki separately you know

I know it will work, but it won't boost them. That's all I was trying to get across. The only time that would boost them is if they learned Kanka, and Ku Fei is still mastering Ki.

[Eger-kun]

I know it will work, but it won't boost them. That's all I was trying to get across. The only time that would boost them is if they learned Kanka, and Ku Fei is still mastering Ki.

why would Setsuna mix both magic and Ki since she is more proficient to using them separately and she knows she is way out of league if she tries learning Kanka

[Magister Magi 13]

why would Setsuna mix both magic and Ki since she is more proficient to using them separately and she knows she is way out of league if she tries learning Kanka

Wait, Setsuna can actually use magic?

[Eger-kun]

Wait, Setsuna can actually use magic?

yup and Setsuna also has some ability to manipulate magic as part of her combat training. like the paper dolls she's making

[Magister Magi 13]

yup and Setsuna also has some ability to manipulate magic as part of her combat training. like the paper dolls she's making

I thought she only use ki and no magic at all.

[Truth101]

I thought she only use ki and no magic at all.

I don't feel like going to find the exact page, but i remember that Setsuna used beginner fire magic before when she showed Konoka.

[Magister Magi 13]

I don't feel like going to find the exact page, but i remember that Setsuna used beginner fire magic before when she showed Konoka.

Really? I thought she use ki to make that.

[craven]

I don't feel like going to find the exact page, but i remember that Setsuna used beginner fire magic before when she showed Konoka.
Really? I thought she use ki to make that.
I think "ki" is considered eastern magic and spiritual energy is the basis of western magic.

Or is it the other way around (too lazy to check)

[Truth101]

Hmm Time to go find the page where Kotaro explains the difference between Ki and Magic Power.

Ah found it here http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/92/05/

Magic power- is the spiritual connection to bring in Natural energy into ones body and control it.

Ki- While Ki is the power in oneself which can be increased by Physical strength.

I'm pretty Eastern Magic still uses "Magic Power" It's just that fighter types generally use "Ki" instead of Magic. Unless they're a warrior mage who use Magic power to enhance and build upon Physical skills.

But I don't know if Someone can use Ki to create Flames or Elemental Magic i wasn't able to find anything on that. So I'm going to assume Ki isn't able to be used the same as Natural Energy.

[Twi]

Yeah, Ki can be used for flames, give me a sec
Edit: http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/64/11/

[Truth101]

Yeah, Ki can be used for flames, give me a sec
Edit: http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/64/11/

Ah thats what we where talking about, but I couldn't find anywhere in the manga that mentioned if Setsuna could use only Ki.

So I don't know if she was using Magic or Ki

and here http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/30/13/

Kamo asks if She can use Eastern Magic and She agrees, but it may just be the way it was translated so I don't know.

Maybe she can use both Magic and Ki maybe baito-kun can answer it later.

[Twi]

Well, she can use shikigami i.e. mini setsuna using Ki and most charms seem to use ki and act as a spell, while negi uses magic to make a mini negi during kyoto trip
And as kotaro said they all come from the same place meaning magic and ki must travel through the body, so it can be said they are the same and at the same time different
http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/92/05/

[Truth101]

Well, she can use shikigami i.e. mini setsuna using Ki and most charms seem to use ki and act as a spell, while negi uses magic to make a mini negi during kyoto trip
And as kotaro said they all come from the same place meaning magic and ki must travel through the body, so it can be said they are the same and at the same time different
http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/92/05/

Well I know that I already pointed it out Two posts above.

While I think she was using Ki also. I was just pointing out that she may also be able to use Magic, But that's only based on the way it's been translated and it's easy enough to misinterpret some translations.

[Twi]

What about the official translations then?

[Eger-kun]

Well I know that I already pointed it out Two posts above.

While I think she was using Ki also. I was just pointing out that she may also be able to use Magic, But that's only based on the way it's been translated and it's easy enough to misinterpret some translations.
well here is what a friend named Wikipedia said (I liked this person he's quite helpful

Magical Abilities: Besides her fighting skills, Setsuna also has some ability to manipulate magic as part of her combat training; for example, she can use paper dolls to create doppelgangers of other people. She can also transfer part of her ki or life force into a paper doll, resulting in a super deformed version of herself called Mini-Setsuna. As a hanyō, she also possesses angelic wings which she can use to fly.

[Magister Magi 13]

well here is what a friend named Wikipedia said (I liked this person he's quite helpful

Magical Abilities: Besides her fighting skills, Setsuna also has some ability to manipulate magic as part of her combat training; for example, she can use paper dolls to create doppelgangers of other people. She can also transfer part of her ki or life force into a paper doll, resulting in a super deformed version of herself called Mini-Setsuna. As a hanyō, she also possesses angelic wings which she can use to fly.

Wikipedia doesn't hold the all reliable information that much when it comes to manga and anime, we are not even sure who wrote that. So we shouldn't rely on it too much, but it's at least a good idea to take into consideration.

[Babiebutt666]

I don't know about the covo going on so I'll post who I think. :) depending on times.

ok so.....

haruna
nodoka
asuna
konoka
setsuna
asakura
chisame
yue

so those are done I think the next will be

chachamaru
kaede
kuufei
evangeline

only because they're powerful and in reach right now. :)

[baitokun]

I just read a blog about negi's students that still dont know about magic, and kinda surprised that there re only 7 of them.
７　kakizaki
11 madoka
17 sakurako
21 chizuru
22 fuuka
23 fumika
29 ayaka
and I hope a girl among these 7 will be negi's new partner, ayaka :D. (ﾉД`; ) but even if she become a partner, it will be after magic world arc ﾟﾟ(´O｀)°)

[ju gatsu mikka]

Students who know about magic from beginning :
- Sayo ?
- Misora
- Chachamaru
- Setsuna
- Mana
- Chao
- Satomi
- Evangeline
- Satsuki

Students who learn about magic before chapter 223 and who are potentialy magical world members from beginning :
- Yuna (daughter of magisters)
- Kasumi ? (maybe a potential medium from the beginning)
- Asuna (princess of Vespertatia)
- Konoka (daughter and great-daughter of magisters)
- Kaede ? (ninja)

Other students who learn about magic before chapter 223 :
- Yue
- Ako
- Akira
- Ku
- Haruna
- Makie
- Chisame
- Nodoka
- Natsumi

Students who potentialy know about magic :
- Chizuru
- Zazie

Students who are potentialy magical world members from beginning :
- Fuka (ninja)
- Fumika (ninja)

Students who knows nothing about magic :
- Misa
- Madoka
- Sakurako
- Ayaka

So there is between 4 and 8 students who know nothing about magic :
ninja seem to know magic like a legendary thing but don't know if it's e real one or not so Fuka and Fumika who are ninja potentialy know magic. Chizuru and Zazie, we don't know if they know about magic or not and if they are magical world members or not

After that, the 5 who have the most important probability to become the next partners of Negi are :
1/ Ku (she is already the most powerfull normal human and she trains to become a kidoka to, with a pactio she will become really powerfull)
2/ Yuna (she is already a "mage", but she doesn't use her power for spell but for reload her guns, pactio will increase her power)
3/ Kaede (she is already a very powerfull human, but a pactio will increase her power again)
4/ Ako and Natsumi (the first is evident I think, and the second for protecting her "little brother")

Evangeline (more powerfull magistra), Misora (ministra), Mana, Sayo (ghost), Chachamaru (ministra), Chao (more powerfull magistra and ex-time traveller) will never be his partners

[Eger-kun]

I just read a blog about negi's students that still dont know about magic, and kinda surprised that there re only 7 of them.
７　kakizaki
11 madoka
17 sakurako
21 chizuru
22 fuuka
23 fumika
29 ayaka
and I hope a girl among these 7 will be negi's new partner, ayaka :D. (ﾉД`; ) but even if she become a partner, it will be after magic world arc ﾟﾟ(´O｀)°)

so they're are only seven left but Negi only has 8 partners :rofl: for Ayaka :rofl: I think she'll be the last person to know that , if she does she will be furious to Asuna who had the first contract with Negi

[baitokun]

LOL for this
- Kasumi ? (maybe a potential medium from the beginning)

and this

Students who are potentialy magical world members from beginning :
- Fuka (ninja)
- Fumika (ninja)

as I dont see them right ^^ and I think completely waffle, fuuka & fumika are milions light years away for being ninjas :lol: they re just doing the fake ninja moves and cosplaying ninja outfits, that s all :D and Kasumi known magic first after she saw negi :) not before.

so they're are only seven left but Negi only has 8 partners :rofl: for Ayaka :rofl: I think she'll be the last person to know that , if she does she will be furious to Asuna who had the first contract with Negi
so you re thinking the same with me, that even if the time come for ayaka to know about magic, it d be a really long time or even near the end >.<
well, ayaka is one I really want to see as negi's partner. other are Kaede ;) and chachamaru :P

[Souken]

It's also interesting to note Ken already has unofficial pactio cards for Sakurako, Ayaka, Ako, Makie, Fumika/Fuuka. Does this mean anything in the future chapters to come? (When Asakura's and Haruna's pactio cards were released, the chapters on where they gained their pactio wasn't even at that stage yet, prompting people that these two might get theirs eventually which they did)


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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/Terra88/Terras%20Online%20Photos/Mahou%20Sensei%20Negima/Ako.jpg


Satomi and Eva also have unofficial pactio cards from ken, but it's unsure how they will link in future chapters to come. It's said that Satomi's pactio partner is with Chao and well, as everyone know Eva has a contract formed with Chachamaru.


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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/Terra88/Terras%20Online%20Photos/Mahou%20Sensei%20Negima/Evangeline.jpg


Characters without official/unofficial pactio cards so far - Misa, Madoka, Chizuru, Natsumi, Satsuki, Zazie, Akira, Yuna, Ku Fei, Kaede, Sayo (*Chao and Mana are excluded because Chao is a mage in her own right and has returned to her time, while Mana has a "deceased" pactio card).

Students who potentialy know about magic :
- Chizuru
- Zazie

Someone mentioned that Ken said that Zazie has an important role near the end of Negima so I believe this is true. As for Chizuru, it's said she might have potential magical ability due to being able to "break" Wilhelm's (the demon who specializes in petrification) barrier by giving him a slap. Anyway living with Kotaru and a now who knows about the existence of Magic Natsumi, it shouldn't be long before she discovers (by accident or force *evil laugh*) magic too.

[ju gatsu mikka]

Kasumi known magic first after she saw negi :) not before.

I don't say she knows before, but she had the potential to become a magical society member because she was a potential medium (now she IS a medium)

[Souken]

I don't say she knows before, but she had the potential to become a magical society member because she was a potential medium (now she IS a medium)

You mean after she joined the "Negi gang" or she was at the very start? Even though her pactio card contract was gotten at quite a late stage (being promised by Chamo) but most readers did view her as a potential pactio partner. This belief was boosted when Ken released her pactio card along with the manga (not sure which book) even before that chapter (when she did the pactio) came out.

I suppose we can start looking at the unofficial pactio cards to get the idea who's going to be next. But I'm waging my stakes on Makie and Ako for sure since neither Natsumi, Akira nor Yuna has an unofficial card out yet. (I also think Natsumi's more interested to do it with Kotaro than Negi xD)

[ju gatsu mikka]

I don't say she knows before, but she had the potential to become a magical society member because she was a potential medium (now she IS a medium)You mean after she joined the "Negi gang" or she was at the very start?

Her ability to see ghosts and talk with them is latent in a first time and it's revealed to her too only when their is the ghost story in the 9th tankobon. But for me she has it from the beginning. To support my opinion, I cite the explication from Sayo in chapter 79, here (http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/79/09/). She is not a medium from her birth but before the chapter 1 she is already a potential one.

I also think Natsumi's more interested to do it with Kotaro than Negi xD

I think that to but pactio are between a magician and an other person and Kotaro and Natsumi aren't magicians.

And for the unofficials pactio, I don't think we can support over there, indeed, Haruna had a card in the manga before there is one in the real world, Kasumi's official is different from her unofficial and those which are based on the manga design are released a long time ago. Popularity and importance of the characters evolve with time and Negima is not an exception.
I think we need to not base our opinion on fan-service, even if this is a possibility, but more on a logical story evolution

[Souken]

Her ability to see ghosts and talk with them is latent in a first time and it's revealed to her too only when their is the ghost story in the 9th tankobon. But for me she has it from the beginning. To support my opinion, I cite the explication from Sayo in chapter 79, here (http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/79/09/). She is not a medium from her birth but before the chapter 1 she is already a potential one.

Sayo's explanation still elude me though, after all it also took Negi a while before he could even see her though he can sense her.

I think that to but pactio are between a magician and an other person and Kotaro and Natsumi aren't magicians.

I'm still puzzled frankly about what is Ki and eastern magic but Kotaro can be counted as a mix, until more of his skills gets revealed I don't know for sure. But given a choice, Natsumi would rather (even though she can deny xD) pactio with Kotaro.


And for the unofficials pactio, I don't think we can support over there, indeed, Haruna had a card in the manga before there is one in the real world, Kasumi's official is different from her unofficial and those which are based on the manga design are released a long time ago. Popularity and importance of the characters evolve with time and Negima is not an exception.
I think we need to not base our opinion on fan-service, even if this is a possibility, but more on a logical story evolution

Kazumi had a different card design back then? I thought the minor difference are only the names on the card, same went for Haruna's as well. But anyway some of the unofficial pactios I posted are really kinda logical if you looked it...

1) Makie already knows about magic, is able to cast the basic fire spell. She's also the remaining member in the Baka team who was the last to know about magic, excluding Kaede and Ku Fei, I believe it would be a perfect match to get the Baka team to showcase their powers and pactios. :)

2) Similarly, Ako is already in the magic world, and her relationship with Nagi (aka Negi) will probably expand from there and (not surprisingly) will probably go into the next pactio card. From the other versions of Negima, seems her pactio's powers are either buffs or healing from that big syringe artifact. Would do good to the entire group to have a second healer anyway. :P

3) The remaining three - Ayaka, Sakurako and the twins. Indeed it is a bit hard to visualize how at this point of time they will be revealed about the existence of Magic. As far as "timings" in the story, only Ayaka has an inkling about what's going on so among the four, she's probably the next closest one. (though as someone mentioned, this would probably be after the magic world arc)

It's hard to really visualize Sakurako and the twins being serious, and if Sakurako knows, Madoka and Misa would know about it eventually as well. ;)

[IceDragon77]

I think the next three will be....

1. Yuna
2. Makie
3. Anya

Yuna and Makie because they've been in the magical world, and now know about Negi's secret (him being a mage). Anya because its kinda obvious that she will eventually get one, after all, she is the one that knew Negi for the longest. (And dont they look super cute together? X3)

[ju gatsu mikka]

I don't think, at least for Makie

For the moment, the most useful pactio to do is with Ku : she is a really powerfull human, but a normal one (no ki, no magic) before mundus magicus. She start training but a pactio will boost her ability like Asuna at the beginning.
Second one is Yuna : she is already a mage, but she doesn't use her power for spells, she use it to reload quickly and with an infinite magazine she can use a constant fire her magical guns. But she is to powerless to fight against Fate and his comrades.

Anya is not a bad idea

[Souken]

Anya is not a bad idea

I personally think Anya should do pactios with other people and not with Negi, she is a full fledged mage like he is. But not that I say it won't happen.

[Twi]

I personally think Anya should do pactios with other people and not with Negi, she is a full fledged mage like he is. But not that I say it won't happen.

She's too shy.....but if she made one with kotaro.....Nah

[Eger-kun]

but if she made one with kotaro.....Nah

that can be possible since both think that Negi is their No.1 rival ..they do almost anything to defeat him

[Souken]

that can be possible since both think that Negi is their No.1 rival ..they do almost anything to defeat him

Natsumi won't be happy about this. *laughs*

[Eger-kun]

Natsumi won't be happy about this. *laughs*

well she' hasn't confirm her feeling yet .she is still in the confused state ...well at least there is a another love triangle (i think it is more complicated than that) other than Negi's

[RisingSilverDragon]

I think Kotoro only sees Natsumi as a big sister and Nastumi still has not figured out if she is in love with him, so I don't see it as a love triangle right now. Hopefully, it will become one though because too many people are in love with Negi. I also believe that Keade and Ku Fei should have already have pactios and since I don't think Chachamaru is able to get a pactio, the third one should be Ako.

[Eger-kun]

I think Kotoro only sees Natsumi as a big sister and Nastumi still has not figured out if she is in love with him, so I don't see it as a love triangle right now. Hopefully, it will become one though because too many people are in love with Negi. I also believe that Keade and Ku Fei should have already have pactios and since I don't think Chachamaru is able to get a pactio, the third one should be Ako.

well as for Chachamaru it hasn't been confirmed but according to a reliable website (which is discuss in the trivia section) she can have a doll contract with Negi cause she has it with EVA but i think it doesn't give artifact that the pactio sytem provides

[Souken]

So let's bring our focus back to the gang again...

People in the magic world without a pactio - Ku Fei, Kaede, Makie, Yuna, Ako, Akira, Natsumi, Chachamaru (with Negi that is)

People in the magic world with high priorities of a pactio - Ku Fei, Kaede, Makie, Ako

Complete the entire baka set! (Makie's baka pink)

Ako's story with Nagi (disguised as Negi) will probably lead to somewhere, a kiss is evident +_+ (probably the time where Chamo will sneakily make a pactio incantation)

People in the magic world with low priorities of a pactio - Akira, Yuna, Natsumi, Chachamaru

Yuna is a mage's daughter in her own right, she probably will want to discover more about her other life's history before she even get down to stuff like pactio. Akira is a bit disturbed by Negi's pactio contract process while Natsumi is well more bothered about Kotaro. :D

[Eger-kun]

People in the magic world without a pactio - Ku Fei, Kaede, Makie, Yuna, Ako, Akira, Natsumi, Chachamaru (with Negi that is)

People in the magic world with high priorities of a pactio - Ku Fei, Kaede, Makie, Ako



well at of them surely will get the pactio they deserve unless they become somewhat unpopular in the poll.

Ku Fei , she do it when Negi is a pinch with Fate

Kaede , same as above

Makie , accidentally learns Negi ' secret then starts going lovey dovey then Chamo will take advantage of the situation .....Aniki 50 k Ermine dollars for me

Ako ,possible but I'm doubtful , if he learns Negi=Nagi , she start blabbering Negi that all those thing he said where just illusion

[Eveonder Maelstrom]

Ahahaha, Negi should learn to make shadow clones, just so that he can train faster and be in more places at once like Naruto. It's a brilliant idea as much as I hate Naruto.

[Eger-kun]

Ahahaha, Negi should learn to make shadow clones, just so that he can train faster and be in more places at once like Naruto. It's a brilliant idea as much as I hate Naruto.

Kotaro can teach him though XD ....well that will be a mega dupe training method since he can use Eva's resort

[Magister Magi 13]

Kotaro can teach him though XD ....well that will be a mega dupe training method since he can use Eva's resort

I don't want Naruto's stuff to be on here. MSN is MSN and please stop with this joke already, Ken-san wouldn't use this kind of thing anyway since it'll be copyright and he might get in huge trouble for it.

[kurosakinaruto28]

I don't want Naruto's stuff to be on here. MSN is MSN and please stop with this joke already, Ken-san wouldn't use this kind of thing anyway since it'll be copyright and he might get in huge trouble for it.

I agree totally...it's not like we don't have enough of manga's ripping stuff off of each other or other project types like the "destined child" thing(in naruto which came from star wars(which came from something before that as well)).

[NellCor]

In DBZ, Piccolio splits into two so he may train harder. MSN has a lot of room to appear more like Naruto w/o breaking copying laws. Notice how there is a training chapter that has a tekken character. I do see the manga as highly original.

If negi's pet were to make a pactio w/ him, the granted ability could be making pactio cards w/o kissing and/or enchancing the contracts already done.

[syler]

If negi's pet were to make a pactio w/ him, the granted ability could be making pactio cards w/o kissing and/or enchancing the contracts already done.

it makes me laugh so hard that negi will kiss chamao.:LOL:
here comes my crazy imagination. sometimes i scare my self.:skull::skull:

[Magister Magi 13]

it makes me laugh so hard that negi will kiss chamao.:LOL:
here comes my crazy imagination. sometimes i scare my self.:skull::skull:

You really do have a wild imagination! :) :thumbsup:

[flapjackmaka]

how can u hate Naruto? :tch:
anyway i have a question on pacticos. Why is there no negi artifact?
for example if negi and lets say his dad made a pactico would that give nagi an artifact or Negi an artifact?

[NellCor]

Magicians must have some standard in picking which voices they allow in the heads.Negi's father could have ran away to stop the nagging.

[Eger-kun]

how can u hate Naruto? :tch:
anyway i have a question on pacticos. Why is there no negi artifact?
for example if negi and lets say his dad made a pactico would that give nagi an artifact or Negi an artifact?

have you really read MSN .....no offense but I'm quite doubtful

well the pactio result will depend on who wants to be the ministra or the magister so it will be either Negi or Nagi

[flapjackmaka]

well that explains it because sanders and sakura both have artifacts and i do believe they are mages. so may i ask you if you ever read MSN? because their artifacts were probably used twice already.
Oh yea theres also Rakan

[Eger-kun]

. so may i ask you if you ever read MSN?


hmmm , yes and about 7 times

well Colonel , Sakura and Rakan showed their artifacts . Colonel used his artifact against Kaede ( cause he can't finish her that quickly so he used Nagi's personality) and Negi ( he promised Nagi that) Sakura used hers against Kotaro but was easily defeated other than that I can't remember exactly but probably when she is stopping Negi and co. when they were trapped by Chao in the future

[flapjackmaka]

ok..

Now does anyone know why these mages have artiacts unlike negi and nagi

[Eger-kun]

ok..

Now does anyone know why these mages have artiacts unlike negi and nagi

well first of all these two guys already have Great Magic Capabilities so having a artifact will be quite overrated plus there will be no development in terms of Magic other than improving his artifact for Negi while for Nagi he is strong enough to not have a partner so why bother an artifact plus both of them had the Atrum Staff (Negi's staff , what we call it here in the subforums)

[Magister Magi 13]

well first of all these two guys already have Great Magic Capabilities so having a artifact will be quite overrated plus there will be no development in terms of Magic other than improving his artifact for Negi while for Nagi he is strong enough to not have a partner so why bother an artifact plus both of them had the Atrum Staff (Negi's staff , what we call it here in the subforums)

And besides, only Ministra Magi are suppose to have artifacts. The Magister Magi shouldn't have one. it's just the way the pactio system works.

[baitokun]

maybe because negi is the main hero?? ^^

[Eger-kun]

And besides, only Ministra Magi are suppose to have artifacts. The Magister Magi shouldn't have one. it's just the way the pactio system works.

huh . any mage can be the ministra , well that depends on which wants the position anyway

[~Chi-u_Chi-u~]

so anyone that being mages can have Ministra Magi even they are very strong like Nagi or Fate or they are mages that just graduated from Academy , so that they are called mages so they can have Ministra Magi , i think even Yue or Konoka can have Ministra Magi if they go to pactio with someone , and it depend on that they want ministra Magi or ot if they do want they will not make pactio like Anya , but if they are in necessary situation they will make like Negi

[Magister Magi 13]

Of course theoretically Magister Magi can also be Ministra Magi. But as far as this series concerns, those who've already been a Magister Magi will still kept being the Magister Magi.

[Souken]

And besides, only Ministra Magi are suppose to have artifacts. The Magister Magi shouldn't have one. it's just the way the pactio system works.

Agreed, the Ministra are the supporters after all. Assuming they're still normal humans without magic/ki knowledge, their only way is through the use of artifacts. Although this is kind of sad because they're quite "useless" unless their artifact is quite powerful.

[SaroVati]

Hm not necessarily. They can have a kinda useless artifact, but if it suits the style of combat the Magister uses, then it could overall be useful, even if they are terrible alone.

Say a normal human has an artifact which boosts your speed by 2x for a certain amount of time (time depending on how much magic you recieve). Using it her/himself would be useless, as a normal human's speed x5 isn't going to do jack all in a dangerous situation, however using it on a battle-type Minstra, or even the Magister her/himself (assuming they are not Wizard-types) would be very useful, as 2x their speed would be a huge advantage.

[flapjackmaka]

well probably in the whole series, the only artifact considered useless is sakuras. and her makes people naked. other than embarrasment, it doesnt do much. :rofl:

[Souken]

Hm not necessarily. They can have a kinda useless artifact, but if it suits the style of combat the Magister uses, then it could overall be useful, even if they are terrible alone.

Say a normal human has an artifact which boosts your speed by 2x for a certain amount of time (time depending on how much magic you recieve). Using it her/himself would be useless, as a normal human's speed x5 isn't going to do jack all in a dangerous situation, however using it on a battle-type Minstra, or even the Magister her/himself (assuming they are not Wizard-types) would be very useful, as 2x their speed would be a huge advantage.

I didn't put useless in a literal term, hence the air quotes. ;)

Coincidentally, Misora's artifact is similar to your example. It simply allows her to perform superhuman feats in speed and jump ability, as bluntly put by herself, it's only good for running away. Misora herself has little combat abilities, I think she can perform some basic magic though.

well probably in the whole series, the only artifact considered useless is sakuras. and her makes people naked. other than embarrasment, it doesnt do much. :rofl:

If you mean Asakura, then yes, her artifact is purely for the sake of information collection only. That was the scenario I'm referring to, Asakura has absolutely no experience in either magic or ki, and only can draw forth her artifact. (which once again, has no combat abilities either)

[SaroVati]

Lol my mistake :P I'm more of a literal person when I'm on forums heh, and amazingly a more laid-back joker type in real life :O

But anyways, off topic, but does anyone have a full-body picture of Kotaro (his front and back)? Kinda need it for my game, as I can't find any skins for Kotaro atm (gunna be the first character, just for testing purposes :P). I found 1, but he had his hand in his pocket, which I need, and also it kinda blocked the other parts too so it didn't work. It would be great if someone could help.

P.S. If it were coloured that would be great, or you're going to have to live with badly self-coloured images :P

But back on topic, there seems to be alot of artifacts that are relatively useless lol. I mean, making golems is cool, but I doubt they can get any form of intelligence, unless she decides to make a "super-golem", that's pretty much always beside her and has some intelligence one way or another.

[NellCor]

Haruna has shown their usefulness as decoys.

[SaroVati]

Lol, barely useful. They can't be used in the open, nor without alot of time. They also can't be used in real-combat unless they were made beforehand, as actual battle-drawings would take quite a bit of time to draw. And they aren't too useful in battle either... I mean she herself is wide open for attack, so if she was ambushed she would be done for. A normal human when it comes to physical characteristics, and without time to draw, you could easily kill or take her artifact away...

[flapjackmaka]

im talkin about sakura mei and her artifact. it makes people naked. you know the girl and her broom who lost to kotarou in the tourney

[SaroVati]

Lol I think that's just a spell, not her actual artifact. I'm too lazy to go find the page, but it definately was a spell, cause I'm pretty sure artifacts should be easy to use, as they are designed to make sense to you. Hacker-girl got used to hers so easily, and same with the others. She wouldn't have said "Yes, I did it Onee-san" or w/e if it was her artifacts ability.

[NellCor]

She has drawn, B4 making the pactio, compromising ilLUSTrations of her canon fodder. She's wicked!

[SaroVati]

Hm, what I'm wondering is why they even needed to make those golems to take their place. I mean, if those 2 teachers could sense, they would've already noticed a group leaving the house, and if they couldn't sense it, making them is just a waste of time in the first place.

[Souken]

Lol, barely useful. They can't be used in the open, nor without alot of time. They also can't be used in real-combat unless they were made beforehand, as actual battle-drawings would take quite a bit of time to draw. And they aren't too useful in battle either... I mean she herself is wide open for attack, so if she was ambushed she would be done for. A normal human when it comes to physical characteristics, and without time to draw, you could easily kill or take her artifact away...

You forgot, Haruna apparently isn't "human", her art skills are simply ridiculous. Back then when she was caught up with the Cerberus, she only took a few minutes and while dodging attacks at the same time to sketch up a "Goddess of the Sword" summon which I think it's impressive enough. If Ken made her draw things in matters of seconds then I would think it's simply overpowered.

To master Haruna's artifact, you need plenty of imagination, planning and details of your sketch. If you noticed the things she has been drawing up, I'll say she's improved already. No doubt it's true if the person herself is down, everything would be over, she's not meant for frontal combat anyway, more of a mid-offensive/support role.

Hm, what I'm wondering is why they even needed to make those golems to take their place. I mean, if those 2 teachers could sense, they would've already noticed a group leaving the house, and if they couldn't sense it, making them is just a waste of time in the first place.

The teacher mages were underestimating them, so they probably concentrated on the presence within the house. It's only natural that they left decoys in the house in order not to arouse suspicions.

[SaroVati]

That doesn't make much sense on the teachers part, but sure... And yeah, she is a mid-offensive/support type, but she seems like just a target for me if I were an enemy, and an easy way to get free beats at Negi/Kotaro when they try to protect her. Just a question, if Negi dies, all of his students who he's made a Pactio with lose their artifacts right?

[Twi]

Yep

[Souken]

That doesn't make much sense on the teachers part, but sure... And yeah, she is a mid-offensive/support type, but she seems like just a target for me if I were an enemy, and an easy way to get free beats at Negi/Kotaro when they try to protect her. Just a question, if Negi dies, all of his students who he's made a Pactio with lose their artifacts right?

Given the current arc, I'll say the front liners in Negi's group are no longer pushovers. So the mid and back can safely do their work, of course these people are also training to learn to defend themselves without relying too much on the front. ;)

Yes, when the minister magi dies, the pactio "dies" too because the ministra no longer can call forth the artifact which is done with the minister magi's powers. But the ministra can make a new pactio with another minister magi, just that their artifact will forever be the same one.

[SaroVati]

Do they get the same artifact back, or is a new one? Since it's based off of their personality or whatever, I'm assuming that it's the same one, but that would be kinda pointless for them to lose it at the start lol.

[Eger-kun]

Do they get the same artifact back, or is a new one? Since it's based off of their personality or whatever, I'm assuming that it's the same one, but that would be kinda pointless for them to lose it at the start lol.

well you assumed correctly cause I based it from Colonel artifacts , he had about 10 of the same artifact but only one is working

[kaverinebonhands]

Is it possible for more than one person to have the same artifact at the same time, if they had similar personalities? Also, what happens to the probationary contract, when a permanent one is made? I assume that Alberio, and Rakan would have permanent contracts, since the 1000 Master is an adult, unlike Negi, who is still a kid.

[Souken]

Is it possible for more than one person to have the same artifact at the same time, if they had similar personalities? Also, what happens to the probationary contract, when a permanent one is made? I assume that Alberio, and Rakan would have permanent contracts, since the 1000 Master is an adult, unlike Negi, who is still a kid.

Nobody ever asked this question before, and nobody explained either. My guess there is possibly quite a lot of artifacts out there and also that only one person may possess one at a time.

[SaroVati]

Well, I think each is unique to every specific person. There might be the slim possibility 2 people might get the same artifact, but they probably won't even make a Pactio (like 5% of the population I'm guessing actually know about Magic, and like 1% make Pactios).

[~Chi-u_Chi-u~]

Is it possible for more than one person to have the same artifact at the same time, if they had similar personalities? Also, what happens to the probationary contract, when a permanent one is made? I assume that Alberio, and Rakan would have permanent contracts, since the 1000 Master is an adult, unlike Negi, who is still a kid.

maybe can happen , and i will said that artifact not depends only on their personality but it depend on their ability too like 3Cheerleaders cards their ability are cheerleading so their can is pompom girls , and i think Al and Rakan maybe make permanent pactio with Nagi but now we dont know yet and their cards are same with provisionally contract

[Souken]

maybe can happen , and i will said that artifact not depends only on their personality but it depend on their ability too like 3Cheerleaders cards their ability are cheerleading so their can is pompom girls , and i think Al and Rakan maybe make permanent pactio with Nagi but now we dont know yet and their cards are same with provisionally contract

I suppose that for the manga version, the three cheerleaders will definitely get different stuff. For now only Sakurako has an unofficial card and she has a pompom and a megaphone.

We don't know much details yet, so it's not enough to make such a conclusion.

[Magister Magi 13]

I suppose that for the manga version, the three cheerleaders will definitely get different stuff. For now only Sakurako has an unofficial card and she has a pompom and a megaphone.

We don't know much details yet, so it's not enough to make such a conclusion.

Sakurako never had an unofficial card in the manga, she one has pactio in the anime.

And I agree with Chi-u, the artifact also kind of represent the Ministra Magi ability and personality. E.g. Asuna personal ability is magic cancel plus her powerful body her true artifact is the giant blade.

[~Chi-u_Chi-u~]

Sakurako never had an unofficial card in the manga, she one has pactio in the anime.


this is Sakurako's card

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/Hercules_Poirot/Mahou%20Sensei%20Negima%20-%20Cartas%20Pactio/ShiinaSakurako.jpg

it only appear in anime and havent appear in manga yet , but KA make this card , you can look at it and this card have something different from Misa and Madoka cards that are the text , so Sakurako text is manga text style but Misa and Madoka are anime text style

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/Hercules_Poirot/Mahou%20Sensei%20Negima%20-%20Cartas%20Pactio/KakizakiMisa.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/Hercules_Poirot/Mahou%20Sensei%20Negima%20-%20Cartas%20Pactio/KugimiyaMadoka.jpg

[Eger-kun]

this is Sakurako's card

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/Hercules_Poirot/Mahou%20Sensei%20Negima%20-%20Cartas%20Pactio/ShiinaSakurako.jpg

it only appear in anime and havent appear in manga yet , but KA make this card , you can look at it and this card have something different from Misa and Madoka cards that are the text , so Sakurako text is manga text style but Misa and Madoka are anime text style

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/Hercules_Poirot/Mahou%20Sensei%20Negima%20-%20Cartas%20Pactio/KakizakiMisa.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/Hercules_Poirot/Mahou%20Sensei%20Negima%20-%20Cartas%20Pactio/KugimiyaMadoka.jpg
that would be really boring If KA used the cheerleading stuff to define the artifact for those three. I personally think that they will have a music related artifact cause they are all member of the same band

[Magister Magi 13]

that would be really boring If KA used the cheerleading stuff to define the artifact for those three. I personally think that they will have a music related artifact cause they are all member of the same band

I agree, I just couldn't think of how would cheering help at all when it comes to battle.

[~Chi-u_Chi-u~]

I agree, I just couldn't think of how would cheering help at all when it comes to battle.

they can cheer someone to win , like it first anime that when they cheer that one that they cheer to will be more power up , like they cheer Satsuki and she gain a lot of speed to make food to kill Demons

[SaroVati]

Lol Negi's party wouldn't have enough front line people to defend them then... Asuna, Negi, Kotaro, Setsuna, and Kaede. If you add those 3, then you have 6 (I think) people in the back supporting. This means NONE of the front liners can attack (pretty dumb, since they are the strongest) without letting the backrow people get owned lol.

[Souken]

that would be really boring If KA used the cheerleading stuff to define the artifact for those three. I personally think that they will have a music related artifact cause they are all member of the same band

Even if Ken decides to adopt a team cheer for the three of them, at least give them a set of artifacts, would be boring if they all had the same one and what would be the point of having three pactios which work the same way as one?

On the side note, Sakurako's a very lucky person and the name of her pactio indicates that. Maybe Madoka and Misa will get different attributes to buff with, too bad Ken hasn't released a design of their cards. :o

I agree, I just couldn't think of how would cheering help at all when it comes to battle.

Sakurako's card is the manga version but unofficial, only Misa's and Madoka's are from the anime version (which is highly odd why they switched..). As for cheering, think of it as a major buff in many ways. ;)

Lol Negi's party wouldn't have enough front line people to defend them then... Asuna, Negi, Kotaro, Setsuna, and Kaede. If you add those 3, then you have 6 (I think) people in the back supporting. This means NONE of the front liners can attack (pretty dumb, since they are the strongest) without letting the backrow people get owned lol.

Some of the front liners can dual take roles due to their abilities, for example given Asuna's Kanka/artifact/Magic Canceller, she's an excellent attack and defender. I'm not saying that all the supportive roles people should just bunch up together to be an easy target, but they can learn to team tag at least which can make things generally easier for either.

Eg. Ku Fei/Haruna team (they did team up anyway during the school festival arc), with Ku attacking, Haruna can sketch quickly to summon golems that either have defensive/attacking capabilities. Ku can also block attacks that are going for Haruna, which makes her summoning easier without interruptions.

If you think about it, there is a reason why in storylines or even an average pvp mmorpg people love to take out the supportive roles. Even if their defensive capabilities aren't that strong, given the chance alone they can give allies a hefty boost and cause rampant annoyance to the enemy. (Same goes for Yue, Chiu, Asakura, Nodoka, Konoka)

[SaroVati]

Not versus Fate lol. I'll bet you money that Negi, Kaede, Kotaro, and Setsuna have a better chance of beating Fate than the rest of the Pactio card people added in. Kotaro will sacrifice himself to take blows for the girls, and so will Setsuna for Konoe, and Negi will do it as well. The 4 alone have a better chance, as the others don't do very much... Fate moves too fast for Nodoka to even predict and say it. And who knows if that is even his real name lol, he might not even be human at all...

[Souken]

Not versus Fate lol. I'll bet you money that Negi, Kaede, Kotaro, and Setsuna have a better chance of beating Fate than the rest of the Pactio card people added in. Kotaro will sacrifice himself to take blows for the girls, and so will Setsuna for Konoe, and Negi will do it as well. The 4 alone have a better chance, as the others don't do very much... Fate moves too fast for Nodoka to even predict and say it. And who knows if that is even his real name lol, he might not even be human at all...

Information, and Fate has secrets he doesn't want others to know. He is well aware of Nodoka's artifact and has labeled her dangerous. If you have power, you're obviously dangerous and cannot be left alone. Fate has been underestimating Negi and co. which is why he gets punched by Negi on the face so many times. :)

[Magister Magi 13]

Information, and Fate has secrets he doesn't want others to know. He is well aware of Nodoka's artifact and has labeled her dangerous. If you have power, you're obviously dangerous and cannot be left alone. Fate has been underestimating Negi and co. which is why he gets punched by Negi on the face so many times. :)

So many times? It's only twice that hit dude.

[Souken]

So many times? It's only twice that hit dude.

I didn't make count, but anyway to Fate that's more than enough. :devil:

[SaroVati]

Lol if Fate felt like it he could rip Negi in half o.O He hasn't really underestimated them, actually he put them where they were. So far below him he doesn't care. It's STILL correct, as they couldn't hope to take him out lol. That's what he estimated they were at, and he was correct, he has the powers to not get punched by Negi whenever he feels like it lol.

[Ryo-Chan]

well,whoever that pactio-ed Negi would help in beating the crap outta Fate(i hope)

[Disgaea13]

Misa's a member os the School Chorus and is a fan of Karaoke so she might get an Artifact relating to singing-possibly a microphone, Madoka is a fan of western music (specifically Avril Lavagine, a punk rocker) and since she is a member Dekopin Rocket she'll probably get a electric guitar making her the opposite of Shirabe (The one with the Fiddle).

[Souken]

Misa's a member os the School Chorus and is a fan of Karaoke so she might get an Artifact relating to singing-possibly a microphone, Madoka is a fan of western music (specifically Avril Lavagine, a punk rocker) and since she is a member Dekopin Rocket she'll probably get a electric guitar making her the opposite of Shirabe (The one with the Fiddle).

But knowing she's part of the cheerleader trio, she might get a recurring theme Madoka and Sakurako have. We can only hope I guess...

[craven]

I hope nobody minds me continuing an old topic, It's the first time I'm seeing it now that I'm back.

Not versus Fate lol. I'll bet you money that Negi, Kaede, Kotaro, and Setsuna have a better chance of beating Fate than the rest of the Pactio card people added in. Kotaro will sacrifice himself to take blows for the girls, and so will Setsuna for Konoe, and Negi will do it as well. The 4 alone have a better chance, as the others don't do very much... Fate moves too fast for Nodoka to even predict and say it. And who knows if that is even his real name lol, he might not even be human at all...

I notice Asuna isn't there, (her powers has the potential to even destroy both worlds)

Well maybe not fate (too smart), but someone of fate's caliber is still not too far fetch to be pawned by the support types (even without Asuna). Given the brains of Paru, that crazy reporter, My lovely cosplayer :) and Yue topped with their ability to gather knowledge, not to mention they have all types on magic within the herd. Restriction, counter and trap magics are not that impossible for them to do. (something like lelouch trap)

Konoka's magical energy is also very large (I think Eishun mention that it's larger than Nagi's)
given the right magic, she or someone next to her can actually harness it for this purpose.

Someone barbaric like Racan can fell for it. Now that I think about it Racan hates fighting Al (and their level of strength has a huge gap in it). According to him Al never fights head on that it pisses him so much.

[Zmoldir]

Artifacts... Well...
I'm just gonna say that the newest one is from Negi^^ lulz, and it really rockz.
The one i want to see the most: Ayaka. I simply love her, every scene she parts in gets superfunny and as soon as she gets serious there is some kind of lovely atmosphere. Her beeing a member of ala alba would be AWSOME.
Afraid i've gotta wait though ... nontheless, next one to go pactio will be *superpredictionmagic of rolling the dice* ... _,.-*'+ --- KU FEI --- +*-.,_
Erm ... what?! Nevermind, forget that, sorry, got a little lost back there ...

[Souken]

Artifacts... Well...
I'm just gonna say that the newest one is from Negi^^ lulz, and it really rockz.
The one i want to see the most: Ayaka. I simply love her, every scene she parts in gets superfunny and as soon as she gets serious there is some kind of lovely atmosphere. Her beeing a member of ala alba would be AWSOME.
Afraid i've gotta wait though ... nontheless, next one to go pactio will be *superpredictionmagic of rolling the dice* ... _,.-*'+ --- KU FEI --- +*-.,_
Erm ... what?! Nevermind, forget that, sorry, got a little lost back there ...

Ku Fei is definitely the next highest possibility of a pactio, I don't see any more reason why she should be delayed.

Up for grabs next are just the remaining girls in the Magic World - Ako, Akira, Natsumi, Makie, Yuna, Chachamaru/Sayo (though these two claim a pactio was impossible due to their nature of being an artificial being and a ghost respectively).

[KoKoala]

I also think the next Negi's ministra would be Ku Fei.
Because she was negi's martial art teacher and she master at it.
So her artifact would be something related to her skill.
And that will make Negi get another useful Artifact for him self also.
'cause negi also use a Chinese Martial art (sorry, I dont knoewhat it called in english)
so he might be easily master on that artifact.

[Disgaea13]

Ku Fei is definitely the next highest possibility of a pactio, I don't see any more reason why she should be delayed.

Up for grabs next are just the remaining girls in the Magic World - Ako, Akira, Natsumi, Makie, Yuna, Chachamaru/Sayo (though these two claim a pactio was impossible due to their nature of being an artificial being and a ghost respectively).

Agreed Ku is next, which will lead to a domino effect among the remaining girls. We all know the moment Yuna and Makie find out about Pactios they'll jump Negi. End of story. Then they drag Akira and Ako into it, and Natsumi will follow after some words of encouragement from Kotaro.

Chachamaru: Well she won't know till she tries right? Chisame will probably convince her to be the one to try. Or Haruna will just push her into a kiss.

Sayo: She needs a body, well a more appropriate body then the one she has right now. She is the least likely of all the girls to form a Pactio with Negi this Arc.

[The Observer]

that brings up something interesting - if sayo possesses someone to do a pactio, would the card be sayo's or the one she possessed? or maybe 2 cards at once?

[Disgaea13]

Since Akira's Artifact will probably be water related . I'm betting on a fight between Akira and Homura in the near future. The classic Water vs. Fire showdown!

[Souken]

that brings up something interesting - if sayo possesses someone to do a pactio, would the card be sayo's or the one she possessed? or maybe 2 cards at once?

You get one patio card, Sayo herself is counted as an individual ghost or not. It's just that I have a hunch the pactio release might amplify some ghost powers she might already have.

[Ryo-Chan]

I also think the next Negi's ministra would be Ku Fei.
Because she was negi's martial art teacher and she master at it.
So her artifact would be something related to her skill.
And that will make Negi get another useful Artifact for him self also.
'cause negi also use a Chinese Martial art (sorry, I dont knoewhat it called in english)
so he might be easily master on that artifact.

Sigh..i dun get why people call Chinese Martial Art kung fu when its real name is WuShu...

Kung Fu means Skill in chinese..so it can mean anything from cooking to driving..

[Eger-kun]

oh nice piece of new info then though I rather see Kung Fu as a speed type martial art and Wushu as the main martial art practice in China for the reason that there are a lot of people in CHina that do those stance in their morning exercise

[Twi]

Kung fu is more popular since it stands out more rather than Wu shu and most people(Other than china) probably don't study said martial art

[Eger-kun]

yeah Kung fu is like a general word for martial arts already >_<

[Ryo-Chan]

its a darn misconception..

[baka1412]

Okay, let's start discussion about their future plan / work (mostly would be speculation)

What will they do in the future after graduating ?
Will they stick of being Negi Partner on pursuit of being Magister Magi, or they will go on seperated ways ? ( and will they still retain their artifact ? )

Some of the girl's who might go on their seperated way's :

1.Chisame , she might continue her career of being a net idol / hacker using the help of her artifact to manipulate information..

2.Haruna , she can use her artifact to pursue her career of mangaka..

3.Asakura, her artifact make perfect match for her papparazi career..

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Some of the girl's who might stick to Negi :

1.Nodoka, she loves Negi and she will surely follow him even after graduated

2.Yue, if nodoka go Yue will also goes.. Beside she got some feeling for Negi as well
(Or, she might pursue her career of being Ariadne Gurad :) )

3.Kaede, a ninja will remain loyal to his master, so i think she will also follow Negi

4.Konoka, i think she decided to also became Magister Magi.. So either she follow Negi to become Magister Magi together, or went seperated ways

5.Setsuna , she go wherever Konoka go

6.Ku-Fei, she aim and looking for stronger opponent and becoming stronger.. So she might stick to Negi, regardless she also may have some feeling for him

[Pseudonym]

You forgot Asuna.