Tsukihime

[lucaz]

Discuss the manga Tsukihime here.

[NonExistence]

wow... no one posted yet? no admiration for further improving on the game art, no applauding the smoothness of the storyline, no appreciating the comeback it's made for the name of tsukihime after the fiasco known as the anime? nothing? is no one interested in a good story, or are they just all too busy gawking over naruto?

on a completely unrelated side note, tsukihime + kara no kyoukai + libera me = awesome youtube video.

[Stifler]

Have a chill pill, Non. Have a chill pill. And there's no Tsukihime anime anyway.

On a side note, does anyone have the RAW for chapter 54?

[Twi]

Nothing yet, but I'll keep an eye out


Edit: found it
http://www.filefactory.com/file/349773/n/Tsu_54_zip

[Stifler]

Many thanks, Twi! You are certainly resourceful at getting RAWs. How ever do you do it?

Anyway, I will try to get the translations done within 2 hours. Putting off all other projects for this, lol.

[Seraphiel]

does anyone have the link for ch 53 ? i think i missed it in the confusion that ensued the conversion to this new forum format -_-
many thanks =]

[Stifler]

Visit my blog. I have the link there.

[SKATEateer]

i miss this series
how do i get to your blog
nvm got there

thanks stifler! your the man
or woman
but mainly the man!

[Stifler]

Well, finally got it done. I got lots of help from other people (mainly Scarecrow), and Twi got the raw for me as usual. Ahaha. So thanks to the both of them.


A pretty good chapter, shedding more light on the history of the True Ancestors and on the mysterious nature of the vampires. Also, it hints at the relationship Shiki has with SHIKI. Whatever happened on that hot summer day, 8 years ago?


http://www.4shared.com/file/59271856/51d1d374/_2__Tsukihime_Chapter_54.html
http://www.mediafire.com/?pgqkisxyvko

[methaniel]

Thanks Stifler. Wow, I realised I had missed a lot of updates, I was still in the battle against Roa. But now, it turns more on the relation Shiki/Arcueid...they were really cute even with what happened before. And now, we are learning more about the True Ancestor and so about Arcueid.
And I didn't really get the part about "you were the one who was killed and you were the one who survived" for Shiki's past

[Seraphiel]

thanks a lot stifler! ^^

[Twi]

Many thanks, Twi! You are certainly resourceful at getting RAWs. How ever do you do it?


Account at Jcafe and bookmark several raw sites at check every few hours

[Stifler]

Thanks Stifler. Wow, I realised I had missed a lot of updates, I was still in the battle against Roa. But now, it turns more on the relation Shiki/Arcueid...they were really cute even with what happened before. And now, we are learning more about the True Ancestor and so about Arcueid.
And I didn't really get the part about "you were the one who was killed and you were the one who survived" for Shiki's past

That's part of the mystery. Obviously, something happened on that day, but its not something that Shiki knows about. In any case, it will all be revealed in due time. Meanwhile, try pondering on what Ciel meant when she said those words, because, like she said, everything really started from there. If you are sharp, through, certain scenes have been shown that can shed some light. You can try figuring it out, or spoil yourself silly by going on to wiki. Ahaha.

Account at Jcafe and bookmark several raw sites at check every few hours

Sounds good, man. I think I should go start an account there too. Ahaha.

[Vernedead]

Meanwhile, try pondering on what Ciel meant when she said those words, because, like she said, everything really started from there.

What confused me was, how could Ciel even know about it? In the VN (at least in Akiha's route) she knew about Shiki's past only because she made him talk in his sleep, but here she's already aware of everything, when Shiki himself is still rather clueless. Did I miss something...?

Anyway, well done again, Stifler.
I was going to ask you to change the font you were using before (because it was a bit unpleasant to read), but apparently you changed it yourself.
I didn't even notice any typos, so you've already beaten Bleach scanlators in quality. ^^

[Twi]

I spoiled myself months ago, so I knew what she was talking about
Now I'm off to cry since my laptop is deader than most of the true ancestors
I have to use this back up PC and re-download all my Raws and files all over the net

[Stifler]

What confused me was, how could Ciel even know about it? In the VN (at least in Akiha's route) she knew about Shiki's past only because she made him talk in his sleep, but here she's already aware of everything, when Shiki himself is still rather clueless. Did I miss something...?

Anyway, well done again, Stifler.
I was going to ask you to change the font you were using before (because it was a bit unpleasant to read), but apparently you changed it yourself.
I didn't even notice any typos, so you've already beaten Bleach scanlators in quality. ^^

Well, they have been pretty loose in their adaptation of the actual VN, but the main point is there. How Ciel knows it doesn't matter (if anything, I'm guessing she found out while she was in the Tohno library back in vol 3 before she got attacked by Akiha), what matters is that well, she knows what actually happened in Shiki's past, and knows the deal between Shiki and SHIKI.

The typesetting was done by Scarecrow, actually. He had suggested to me to change the font, and I agreed. Will probably be using his font from now on.

I spoiled myself months ago, so I knew what she was talking about
Now I'm off to cry since my laptop is deader than most of the true ancestors
I have to use this back up PC and re-download all my Raws and files all over the net

Ouch. That's sad, man. I know how it feels to have one's computer die on you. Hopefully you can recovered the data.

[Twi]

Luckly I can remember where I got the raws and my zune stored my music and videos and I can guess what site I have bookmarked so, I can start over

[Vernedead]

The typesetting was done by Scarecrow, actually. He had suggested to me to change the font, and I agreed.

Ah, so I really wasn't the only one who thought about it. :)

[tonton]

Thanks once again Stifler! If I hadn't watched the non-existent anime, Ciel's words would really be ???? to me. Nevertheless, I am continually intrigued to know more more more! everytime a chapter comes out.

[Stifler]

True, that. I was stumped as to what Ciel meant when I first came across this part back when I was playing the game oh so long ago. But now that I understand what's going on, it all makes so much sense. Ahaha.

Seriously, we would have more Tsukihime love here if Dr.Master did not shut it down here. Sigh.

[methaniel]

Indeed, if it was still on OM, s much more people would read it. It's only because I began reading it before that I ended in this thread and so, saw that you were continuing it Stifler.
I don't want to give myself to spoiler though about Ciel's words, so I'll just continue to read the manga
(on a side-note, here the Volume 5was finally released, yeah!)

[Stifler]

By Dr.Master? Their book quality is the pits. Kadokawa publications is so much better.

[methaniel]

Nope, I'm in France, so all the edition house are different.
Here, Tsukihime is licensed by Ki-oon, a small editor, publishing mangas that they liked but who needs more light (for example, the awesome Blood Alone, Ubel Blatt, Witch Hunter and other which aren't really well known but trully excellent)

[Stifler]

That sounds good. We need more publishing houses like that to bring those lesser known but brilliant mangas into the spotlight. The Big Three have been sitting at the top for far too long, and they aren't very interesting anyway.

[SKATEateer]

is witch hunter good
where can i find that manga?
someone pm me please :]

well tsukihime is good but i cant find the new chapters
so i guess ill have to wait a while for updates

[Stifler]

There are no new chapters. The latest chapter is 54, and I've already done it.

[Twi]

is witch hunter good
where can i find that manga?
someone pm me please :]

well tsukihime is good but i cant find the new chapters
so i guess ill have to wait a while for updates

Next raw won't be out for some time so expect a long wait...at least 20 or so days

[Twi]

Also I though you guys might be interested in a doujin game being made for tskihime
the mainsite is here
http://papilloncorp.blogspot.com/

Another doujin game featuring Type-moon characters
http://www.doujinstyle.com/doujinsoft/battlemoonwars.php

[Aires]

Sorry to just butt in, I saw the Tsukihime discussion and couldnt help myself.

Oh yeah, you guys no that there is going to be a remake of the Tsukihime game right?
what do you guys think about it?

Personally, i wouldnt mind at all as long as they dont mess the script up in anyway or alter certain facts.

[Twi]

Sorry to just butt in, I saw the Tsukihime discussion and couldnt help myself.

Oh yeah, you guys no that there is going to be a remake of the Tsukihime game right?
what do you guys think about it?

Personally, i wouldnt mind at all as long as they dont mess the script up in anyway or alter certain facts.

Didn't know a remake was happenning......

[Stifler]

Yeah, there's a remake going on. Check it out - revamped character designs, improved graphics, same great storyline. And hopefully we will finally get a Sacchin route.

link here (http://www.typemoon.com/product/next/tukihime.html).

And oh, Twi? That doujin game? The characters look WEIRD! lol Am already playing Battle Moon Wars, through.

Script of Chapter 55 is almost done.

[Stifler]

*Bump*

Tsukihime 55 is out for your enjoyment.

http://www.4shared.com/file/63736363/14a6ccbe/Tsukihime_55_ENG.html

[methaniel]

Great as always Stifler, thanks a lot!
Well...we learned more about Arcueid and the True Ancestors, the situation looks kinda doom for Arcueid and a possibl relation with Shiki...Ah, but now he's going by her side even knowing what she really is, really good!

[Locke]

Hey is this manga any good?

I would read it, but OMF took it off. Just the anime was pretty dreadful (in terms of animation & confusion)

[methaniel]

Well, I only know the manga, and I don't think it's that confusing...not all the answers are given yet, but most of the plot is more or less told. But if you want to read it, you'll have to look at Stifler's site for the release (and for the previous chapter, I think as other serie, using the url onemanga.com/Tsukihime/ should work

[Stifler]

Great as always Stifler, thanks a lot!
Well...we learned more about Arcueid and the True Ancestors, the situation looks kinda doom for Arcueid and a possibl relation with Shiki...Ah, but now he's going by her side even knowing what she really is, really good!

He is, isn't he? Shiki's quite the nice guy, but we so need to see more Nanaya. BTW, have you played the game?

Hey is this manga any good?

I would read it, but OMF took it off. Just the anime was pretty dreadful (in terms of animation & confusion)

It used to be one of the best reads on this site. Pity OM took it off, but like methaniel said, it is still there for you to read...if you know how...:D

And there's no Tsukihime anime. None. It doesn't exist.

[Locke]

There really is an anime.

And I see how...that was easy... *reading now*

[methaniel]

Nope, I haven't played the game Stifler, even if I would have wanted to (as well as Higurashi's...).
Actually, what I would like to see is a bit of Roa and his whereabouts while he's putting his plan (even if I didn't fully understood what was the interest of putting the spells circles around the city)

[Stifler]

There really is an anime.

And I see how...that was easy... *reading now*

No, there's isn't. Because that non-existent anime is so bad that us Type-Moon fans refuse to recognize it as such. So therefore it doesn't exist. :D

Its a long running joke among us Type-Moon fans......The standard response to any references to a Tsukihime anime is there's no such thing.

Nope, I haven't played the game Stifler, even if I would have wanted to (as well as Higurashi's...).
Actually, what I would like to see is a bit of Roa and his whereabouts while he's putting his plan (even if I didn't fully understood what was the interest of putting the spells circles around the city)

You do know that there's an English patch out, right?

But anyway, the thing about Roa putting down the Seals all across the city is new...Nothing in the game even mentioned it. I'm interested to see what he's coming up with too.

[Tekkaman Saber]

No, there's isn't. Because that non-existent anime is so bad that us Type-Moon fans refuse to recognize it as such. So therefore it doesn't exist. :D

Its a long running joke among us Type-Moon fans......The standard response to any references to a Tsukihime anime is there's no such thing.
Tis true



You do know that there's an English patch out, right?

But anyway, the thing about Roa putting down the Seals all across the city is new...Nothing in the game even mentioned it. I'm interested to see what he's coming up with too.
I'm still searching for a place to get the game from >_<

[Locke]

Oh, fair enough.

'Twas pretty bad. But I think they did the faces at least, better than the manga.

[Stifler]

Oh? I felt that the manga did it better. lol. At least Hisui and Kohaku looked better in the manga.

[tonton]

Thanks once again Stifler for another amazing chapter! Some of those drawings are amazing - esp the double pager where Arcueid destroys the library and everyone in it!
Wonder where the next chapter will go with the story? I agree- more on Nanaya please! Or perhaps more Shiki R vs Shiki N ?

[Stifler]

lol Both you and I know that R. Shiki won't be appearing any time soon. :D

But if the two ever fought, R. Shiki would come up tops. Period. Because she is just so darn cool.

And oh, about the double paper, are you talking about page 24-25?

[Eger-kun]

hmm I finally start reading this series and atm I'm on chapter 3 and it's quite fun and I'm this will get interesting later on....problem though is it got cancelled in OM but where can I read the later chapters :confused:

[Twi]

hmm I finally start reading this series and atm I'm on chapter 3 and it's quite fun and I'm this will get interesting later on....problem though is it got cancelled in OM but where can I read the later chapters :confused:

Stifler translates it and host them on his blog, gotta love the OM community

[Eger-kun]

Stifler translates it and host them on his blog, gotta love the OM community

Huzzah Stifler :bow: and looks like this manga is really promising , I can't stop reading it atm and in fact I've stop reading Ouran for this one

[methaniel]

Ah, I just saw that Stifler made a RP on Tsukihim (in a way, that has to be you, ne?)
Well, even if I don't intend to join (a bad curse of killing RP...), looking at it, I was wondering:
Is Tsukihime in the same word as Fate Stay/Night? I know this serie from reputation only but if it's from the same word as Tsukihime, it may be a good point for pushing me into reading it

[Eger-kun]

meth I don't know much about FSN since I've only watch a couple of episodes of it but imo this is quite different from that series and besides Shiki N is quite good though Archer is still one of best there is

oh and I've read all of the chapters in OM and now planning to download the chapters in Stifler's blog ... thanks mate for doing this

I wonder where can I get a Tsukihime avatar

[Twi]

Watch episode 14 of FSN....that was deep

[Stifler]

Ah, I just saw that Stifler made a RP on Tsukihim (in a way, that has to be you, ne?)
Well, even if I don't intend to join (a bad curse of killing RP...), looking at it, I was wondering:
Is Tsukihime in the same word as Fate Stay/Night? I know this serie from reputation only but if it's from the same word as Tsukihime, it may be a good point for pushing me into reading it

Yeah, its the same world. All events are related. :D

meth I don't know much about FSN since I've only watch a couple of episodes of it but imo this is quite different from that series and besides Shiki N is quite good though Archer is still one of best there is

oh and I've read all of the chapters in OM and now planning to download the chapters in Stifler's blog ... thanks mate for doing this

I wonder where can I get a Tsukihime avatar

Archer is voted to be one of the most popular male characters of all time. His Unlimited Blade Works is just plain cool.

Watch episode 14 of FSN....that was deep

So, as I pray, Unlimited Blade Works

[Eger-kun]

Yeah, its the same world. All events are related. :D

Archer is voted to be one of the most popular male characters of all time. His Unlimited Blade Works is just plain cool.


oh so both of them are related hmm that would be an interesting story then , better start reading the manga already



So, as I pray, Unlimited Blade Works

Archer FTW

[Twi]

Archer is the best.....I love his power, attitude, everything.....why did he have to die:cry:

[Blindfaith]

Hahahaha. . . . i thought this for forum is about tsukihime?
why are you talking about archer?
isnt he from Fate/Stay Night?

But yes, he is COOL. . . . and also his noble phantasm. . .


EXCALIBUR!

[Twi]

His noble fantasm is Unlimited Blade works.....
Excalibur's got nothing on it

[Stifler]

Nah, the Counter-Guardian Emyia that is known as the Servant Archer in the 5th Holy Grail war doesn't technically have a Noble Phantasm. All he has is his Reality Marble, Unlimited Blade Works, through which he is able to make a copy of every weapon he's seen. That, of course, also includes Excalibur. lol

But who cares about Excalibur? Enuma Elish FTW.

Hahahaha. . . . i thought this for forum is about tsukihime?
why are you talking about archer?
isnt he from Fate/Stay Night?


Because its in the same world. The world of Fate/Stay Night and Tsukihime is one and the same, so there will be references and crossovers here and there.

[Blindfaith]

hahaha. . . . when i was watching F/ST. . .
I feel funny when i hear Saber voice chanting Excalibur. . .
hahahaha. . .
Archer's noble phantasm was much cooler. . .
It killed beserker hmmmmmmmmmmm. . . 5 times?

[Stifler]

Funny, I'm ashamed to say this, but...I don't remember!!! Gah!

I'd say, I did lose my head is it wasn't attached sometimes....

And again, Archer does not have a Noble Phantasm...Unless you are talking about good old Gil, who has everything.

[Blindfaith]

Old Gil?
the king of all heroes?
he was quite cool, but I was a bit shocked when he was defeated by Saber. . .
well, the main character will never lose i guess. . .

[Stifler]

Because Avalon basically makes you invincible. Even Ea can't break through the defense that it sets up. Its like Yu-Gi-Oh's mirror force.

But Gil was alot cooler in the Unlimited Blade Works route. The most memorable line in the whole of Fate/Stay Night - "Do you have enough swords, King of Heroes?" Gar-ness defined.

[tonton]

Oooh I go away for a week and miss out on all the fun here!
I haven't read FSN but after reading the comments here I'm going to start!
@Stifler - yes I was refering to pg 24-25. Fabulous.

[OoOxRuichixOoO]

Because its in the same world. The world of Fate/Stay Night and Tsukihime is one and the same, so there will be references and crossovers here and there.

I didn't know that! I know they were made by the same company but still I didn't expect that. Or my friend just kept that a secret from me?

So its time I should read Fate Stay night....

Saw the anime of Tsukihime and the ending was sad... I feel sorry for Shiki.

[Stifler]

lol Yeah, but you can skip the manga. Either watch the anime for Fate (which isn't all that great but passable) or play the actual game itself, tonton.

And there isn't any Tsukihime anime. Only animated Type-Moon work that's great is Kara no Kyoukai.

[OoOxRuichixOoO]

And there isn't any Tsukihime anime. Only animated Type-Moon work that's great is Kara no Kyoukai.

There is and its been there for 5 years. The title's Shingetsutan Tsukihime or Lunar Legend Tsukihime. If that's not the anime then what have I been watching? :eek:

I'm going to get the dvd for Fate Stay Night , yay!

[Tekkaman Saber]

There is and its been there for 5 years. The title's Shingetsutan Tsukihime or Lunar Legend Tsukihime. If that's not the anime then what have I been watching? :eek:

I'm going to get the dvd for Fate Stay Night , yay!

Sorry Ruichi but I don't think you get the joke.
Among type moon fans the anime of Tsukihime is that terrible that the general consenus among the more fanatical fans deny it's existence.

It's kind of like how claynmore anime doesn't exist or Final fantasy ten part two.

[Tekkaman Saber]

Sorry about the double post.
Stifler you meantioned a good type moon animation *gasps* I never new one existed is it out dubbed or viewable anywhere?

[OoOxRuichixOoO]

I didn't get the joke because I haven't played Melty Blood. The anime was fairly good I think. But maybe my mind will change if I compare it to the game.

[Tekkaman Saber]

Well I've heard that the Tsukihime game is really good apprently you get new possible endings once you complete a path e.g. shiki x arcreid happy ending rather than the emo ending.

I want to know which ending the manga will have I'm assuming that she lives because she's in melty blood.

[Eger-kun]

oh so there is a game about Tsukihime as well :/ and the anime sucks , I was planning to watch it later on this week

though can anyone here post the link to the game cause I am itching for MOAR of Shiki Tohno and her sister of course :wink:

[Stifler]

Sorry about the double post.
Stifler you meantioned a good type moon animation *gasps* I never new one existed is it out dubbed or viewable anywhere?

No, its not dubbed yet. I don't think they would be bringing it over to the States, but you can find it floating around somewhere. It was streamable on crunchyroll, but I think its down now. I'd expect you would have to go through some...questionable sources to get it now.

Just Google Kara no Kyoukai. Its subbed by gg.


I didn't get the joke because I haven't played Melty Blood. The anime was fairly good I think. But maybe my mind will change if I compare it to the game.

Nah, Melty Blood is a doujin game based off Tsukihime. But it grew so popular that it became official, and even Nasu Kinoko takes part in its production now. lol

But do not confuse the two. Through they have the same characters, they are different games. One is a fighting game, the other's a visual novel.

Well I've heard that the Tsukihime game is really good apprently you get new possible endings once you complete a path e.g. shiki x arcreid happy ending rather than the emo ending.

I want to know which ending the manga will have I'm assuming that she lives because she's in melty blood.

Yeah, the game's good. So good, in fact, that there's no anime based on it. lol

But the manga has been mostly following Arc's route so far. How it will end, through, is another question.


oh so there is a game about Tsukihime as well :/ and the anime sucks , I was planning to watch it later on this week

though can anyone here post the link to the game cause I am itching for MOAR of Shiki Tohno and her sister of course :wink:

HIS sister. Shiki Tohno is a guy. lol

And no, I can't give you the link to it. I don't think we can talk about warez here, since the only legal way to get it is to actually buy the game, and like the Kara no Kyoukai movies I mention, the other way involves ... questionable sources. A quick search on Google can dig up something, through. *coughhint (www.mirrormoon.org)cough*

[Kellögem]

any idea when will chapter 56 come out? isnt it suppose to be out already?
i mean the raw...

[Twi]

I think tsukihime is on hiatus

[Kellögem]

hmm...such I shame... and just when it started to be even better...

what do you guys think, how many more chapters will it have?
my guess is like 10-15;

[Stifler]

As far as I can tell, no RAWs are out. So we're stuck on chapter 55, lol.

Dunno...Depends. If the mangaka wants to draw the other routes, then it could last for a great many chapters yet.

[Eger-kun]

oh Tsukihime is taking a break oh noes , well I rather think that this month release is just late and all

[Twi]

Stifler, Your PM box is full so here's an early present from me to you
56 is still missing though
Tsukihime ch57 raw

http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=ARJNER3H

Tsukihime ch58 raw

http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=THP6DHNW

I was browsing and found them, let my group know if you need help, you're a part of us too:thumbup:

[Stifler]

Sorry about that, Twi. Haven't been online in a while. Thanks for the RAWs, mate.

As for Mirai Nikki Mosaic, i'm 98% done with it, just there are some words that I don't know. Currently going around looking for what it means - will send it to you when its done. Cheers!

[Twi]

Sorry about that, Twi. Haven't been online in a while. Thanks for the RAWs, mate.

As for Mirai Nikki Mosaic, i'm 98% done with it, just there are some words that I don't know. Currently going around looking for what it means - will send it to you when its done. Cheers!

Alright, also did you read the new raw of the main series.....
OUCH and if it's kanji I do have a dictionary for them

[Cherylicious]

Wow, there are a lot of differences between the novel visual and the manga. It seems like the manga can't be compared to the game. It's a wonder they haven't make Tsukihime anime yet.

[Twi]

Yes the shame of not having an anime.....

[Cherylicious]

Yes the shame of not having an anime.....Do you know where can I read the rest of Tsukihime manga? It's not as good as the game, but the plot is interesting.
Well! On the side note, they are remaking Tsukihime. I hope they will include a Sacchin route. I want to find out how she met up with Sion and since Melty Blood based off of her ending, it makes it even more interesting.
Since Arcueid can take on 4 Servants at the same time, I wonder how Depletion Garden of Sacchin will work against the servants. Since the servants cannot draw the mana from the atmosphere, they have to use the stored prana inside their body. If it's Shiou, Sacchin will beat him to a pulp.

[Twi]

Check stifler's blog he scans it

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Tsukihime is one of my favorite. The first time I watch the anime version I was hooked and although the ending was a little disappointing(as it was Arcuied's true ending of the visual novel) the story and characters really appealed to me. Arcuied is one of the hottest heroins in anime or manga and will always will be one of my fav girl characters along with Lacus Clyne from Gundam Seed Destiny.

I just finished Arcuied and CIel's route on the visual novel. Arcueid's was okay especially the good ending of it but I much prefer Ciel's good ending because Arcueid and Ciel are fighting over Shiki.:D One thing I didn't understand though, How did Shiki manage to kill Roa by not killing himself in Ciel's Route? I thought that he was gonna kill himself because Roa was starting to take over near the end but after that it suddenly shows that he's alive and Roa is dead. Now I'm starting on Akiha, Kohaku and Hisui's route.

[Siren-Hill]

Tsukihime is one of my favorite. The first time I watch the anime version I was hooked and although the ending was a little disappointing(as it was Arcuied's true ending of the visual novel) the story and characters really appealed to me. Arcuied is one of the hottest heroins in anime or manga and will always will be one of my fav girl characters along with Lacus Clyne from Gundam Seed Destiny.

I just finished Arcuied and CIel's route on the visual novel. Arcueid's was okay especially the good ending of it but I much prefer Ciel's good ending because Arcueid and Ciel are fighting over Shiki.:D One thing I didn't understand though, How did Shiki manage to kill Roa by not killing himself in Ciel's Route? I thought that he was gonna kill himself because Roa was starting to take over near the end but after that it suddenly shows that he's alive and Roa is dead. Now I'm starting on Akiha, Kohaku and Hisui's route.Shiki has 2 souls inside his body. What he managed to kill was Roa's soul instead of his own. It's all depend on who has the stronger will. After you finished the game, you will realize that the true villain in this game is not Roa. The person who behind the whole thing will surprise you. BTW, there is no Tsukihime anime. You mistook it for another anime. I'm a true fan so I know.

[Stifler]

I just finished Arcuied and CIel's route on the visual novel. Arcueid's was okay especially the good ending of it but I much prefer Ciel's good ending because Arcueid and Ciel are fighting over Shiki.:D One thing I didn't understand though, How did Shiki manage to kill Roa by not killing himself in Ciel's Route? I thought that he was gonna kill himself because Roa was starting to take over near the end but after that it suddenly shows that he's alive and Roa is dead. Now I'm starting on Akiha, Kohaku and Hisui's route.

Wait till you do Hisui's route. That one is the BEST. I repeat - its THE BEST. XD

BTW, there is no Tsukihime anime. You mistook it for another anime. I'm a true fan so I know.

That's right. There is no Tsukihime anime. The scanslator for this manga says so, so take it as truth. :P

Magical Amber? The culprit is you.
Yours truly,
The Brainwashing Detective.

Also, PM me if anyone is up for a game of Melty Blood Art Cadenza. That is, if the lag doesn't kill the entire game.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

That's right. There is no Tsukihime anime. The scanslator for this manga says so, so take it as truth. :P

Oh Okay but still I still like the "imaginary" *wink* anime I've seen in Animax a long time ago. For me Arcueid is the hottest babe in Tsukihime, how about you guys? I kind of felt sorry for Yumizuka Satsuki's character, to been turned into a vampire and killed by Shiki so easily. Not even a struggle, just a swipe of his blade and then she's dead.

[Siren-Hill]

Oh Okay but still I still like the "imaginary" *wink* anime I've seen in Animax a long time ago. For me Arcueid is the hottest babe in Tsukihime, how about you guys? I kind of felt sorry for Yumizuka Satsuki's character, to been turned into a vampire and killed by Shiki so easily. Not even a struggle, just a swipe of his blade and then she's dead.My favorite character is Sacchin, and my favorite route is the imaginary Sacchin route. Her route was supposed to be one of the near side stories, but it was cut due to the time and budget. I was happy that they're gonna released the remake in which Sacchin is in it. I just hope the quality will be similar to Fate/Stay Night. Melty Blood is a fighting game in which it's based on a nonexistence Sacchin's ending.

If you want to know more about Sacchin (Spoiler):
She came from a Magus family.
She has a Reality Marble called Depletion Garden in which it will drain all the mana in the air. By that, Servants and Maguses that depend on Mana are dead against her, except for those who use prana.
She is one of the candidates for the 27 Dead Apostles. She jumps up to a full pledged vampire overnight.
She's supposedly a good friend of Sion, the main heroine of Melty Blood.
A famous quote for her is from a doujin "Isn't it sad, Sacchin?"
Many people considered her as a top tier in Melty Blood.

Where is my Sacchin route?

Some spoilers:
Even though the title is Tsukihime, according the Nasu, the real ending of Tohno Shiki is more of a far side ending in which Akiha, Hisui, Kohaku as the main heroine since Arcueid and Ciel don't really have any promises or ties toward Shiki. The one that released the undead during Arcueid Arc a day after Shiki raped her is Ciel. It doesn't say in the storyline though. Here are a few facts it doesn't say during the storyline, Shiki doesn't get any allowance since Akiha thought that if he needs anything, he'll ask her. Unfortunately, Shiki was intimidated by her and never ask for anything. Arcueid traveled to Japan by airplane. The salaries of the maids are really high and if they were to leave the mansion, they will open a tea shop. It would create some contradictions if Ryougi Shiki and Tohno Shiki were to meet.

[Siren-Hill]

Wait till you do Hisui's route. That one is the BEST. I repeat - its THE BEST. XD



That's right. There is no Tsukihime anime. The scanslator for this manga says so, so take it as truth. :P

Magical Amber? The culprit is you.
Yours truly,
The Brainwashing Detective.

Also, PM me if anyone is up for a game of Melty Blood Art Cadenza. That is, if the lag doesn't kill the entire game. You are right. I was so emotional toward the end of the route. It was a bit boring since you will be stuck in the room the whole route. I would kinda expect something from a Tsudere to do what she did. She doesn't afraid to get killed herself but as long as no one harms her precious Shiki. After finished Hisui route, only heartless would not try to finish Kohaku route. As for Melty Blood, I'm a total amateur. If you're an expert at that game, it would be totally boring since you will surely win.

[Siren-Hill]

Yeah, its the same world. All events are related. :D



Archer is voted to be one of the most popular male characters of all time. His Unlimited Blade Works is just plain cool.



So, as I pray, Unlimited Blade Works

I'm the leg of my boot.
Ctrl+C is my body and
Ctrl+V is my blood.
I have violated over
a thousand copyrights.
Unknown to decency.
Nor known to shame.
Have withstood lawsuits
to steal many weapons.
Yet, these hands will
never pay for anything.
So as i pirate...
UNLIMITED RIPOFF WORKS!

[minhvu0006]

Stifler, Your PM box is full so here's an early present from me to you
56 is still missing though
Tsukihime ch57 raw

http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=ARJNER3H

Tsukihime ch58 raw

http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=THP6DHNW

I was browsing and found them, let my group know if you need help, you're a part of us too:thumbup:

Tsukihime ch56 :eban:
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=U02E0GCO

[Stifler]

Nah, I'm no expert. I just play MBAC for fun. lol.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Tsukihime ch56 :eban:
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=U02E0GCO

I thought the scanlated chapter was out but it's the raw. oh well Thanks anyway. Is the raw of 59 out?

What's the story of Miyako Arima? She's not in the Tsukihime visual novel. Is she in Kagetsu Tohya?

[Siren-Hill]

I thought the scanlated chapter was out but it's the raw. oh well Thanks anyway. Is the raw of 59 out?

What's the story of Miyako Arima? She's not in the Tsukihime visual novel. Is she in Kagetsu Tohya?Miyako is Tohno's foster sister. Normally, she doesn't have any power, but due to the influence of the Tatari, she was able to achieve kung fu skill at the master level. Supposedly, she frequently keeps watched at the Tohno Mansion, and she loves to play with Len.

[Stifler]

She was mentioned briefly in KT, but she never made an appearance till Melty Blood.

And no, the raw for 59 isn't out.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Can anyone tell the complete series of the visual novel. I know that the original is:

Visual Novel:
1. Tsukihime and is followed by
2. Kagetsu tohya.

Known Mangas of the series:
1. Tsukihime
2. Melty Blood

Are there anymore out there? What about that guy (I think his name is Kishima Kouma)when and where will he appear? I really want to read all the stories and seris of Tsukihime and I want to know all the characters and where and when they will appear (ex. Kishima Kouma, Miyako Arima etc.)

And I was also wondering why the Tsukihima manga have been inactive lately. The last chapter I read was 55 I think. Thanks:)

[Siren-Hill]

Can anyone tell the complete series of the visual novel. I know that the original is:

Visual Novel:
1. Tsukihime and is followed by
2. Kagetsu tohya.

Known Mangas of the series:
1. Tsukihime
2. Melty Blood

Are there anymore out there? What about that guy (I think his name is Kishima Kouma)when and where will he appear? I really want to read all the stories and seris of Tsukihime and I want to know all the characters and where and when they will appear (ex. Kishima Kouma, Miyako Arima etc.)

And I was also wondering why the Tsukihima manga have been inactive lately. The last chapter I read was 55 I think. Thanks:)Kishima Kouma, Magical Amber, and Nanaya Shiki are the main antagonists in Kagetsu Tohya. They're responsible for your deaths most of the time. Believe it or not, Magical Amber is the hardest boss since there are around 10 choices and if you choose one of them wrong, it will be instant death. Miyako and white Len are appeared in Melty Blood only. They are making Tsukihime remake right now and, hopefully, Tsukihime 2. Besides Tsukihime and Tsukibako, I don't think there are any other installment for the series. The reason Stifler hasn't translate anymore Tsukihime is because there is no raw scan yet.

[Stifler]

Actually, there is. I'm sitting on the raws for up to chapter 58. The scripts for 55 is about 80% done while 56 is at 24%. I'm working on something else at the moment, that's why Tsukihime is late.

What am I working one? Well, you will know it when I release it.

[Twi]

Is it melty blood?
We need more of that

[minhvu0006]

Tsukihime ch59 raw

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=lvqt4a5s

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Hell yeah 59 raw. Thanks. Looks like the manga is staying true to the visual novel.

I recently got Melty Blood Act Cadenza Ver.B and I must say it's better than the first Melty Blood Game. The most dangerous character would be I think is Kohaku, I manage to finish the arcade with her character without using arc drives and ex edges.:thumbup:

@Stifler

Keep up the good work.:thumbsup:

[Siren-Hill]

Hell yeah 59 raw. Thanks. Looks like the manga is staying true to the visual novel.

I recently got Melty Blood Act Cadenza Ver.B and I must say it's better than the first Melty Blood Game. The most dangerous character would be I think is Kohaku, I manage to finish the arcade with her character without using arc drives and ex edges.:thumbup:

@Stifler

Keep up the good work.:thumbsup:Yes, Magical Amber is a very useful character for beginner. Do you wanna play online? I'm an amateur as well so don't worry.

[Stifler]

I'm still around as well. Just PM me for challenges. I'm always accepting them.

[Twi]

No, I think they actually want a chance to Win, instead of being PWNED

[Stifler]

No, I am no pro. XD I'm still a noob.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Yes, Magical Amber is a very useful character for beginner. Do you wanna play online? I'm an amateur as well so don't worry.

How do you play online? I downloaded mbcaster which was instructed in this website (http://www.iscoolstuff.com/2008/05/21/random-entry-21052008-melty-blood-act-cadenza-b/) but I'm a loss as what to do next.

About Arcueid's birthday being December 25, Is it her true birthday or did she just pick it randomly? Well I know it's kind of late but HAPPY BIRTHDAY ARCUIED!

[Siren-Hill]

How do you play online? I downloaded mbcaster which was instructed in this website (http://www.iscoolstuff.com/2008/05/21/random-entry-21052008-melty-blood-act-cadenza-b/) but I'm a loss as what to do next.

About Arcueid's birthday being December 25, Is it her true birthday or did she just pick it randomly? Well I know it's kind of late but HAPPY BIRTHDAY ARCUIED!
Yeah, she proclaimed so, but no one has ever affirmed this yet. She's Jesus.

If you want to play online, send me a PM with your email. It will be easier to do it over chat room.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

I just finished playing the Tsukihime Visual Novel and I must say Each ending are unique and some are downright disturbing.
I did like Kohaku's ending thought, I thought Akiha was gonna die but in the end she went back to being a good character *phew* Both Hisui's ending was a sorrowful one as Kohaku either dies or she loses her memories. And Akiha was the worst yet, she either loses her mind or Shiki dies.
I finished all the routes as follows:
1.) Arcueid
2.) Ciel
3.) Hisui
4.) Akiha
5.) Kohaku

After I finished Kohaku's route Ciel-senpai lesson says there still one more story left which is the main characters story(Shiki Tohno). What does this mean? Is there a Tohno Shiki route or something?:confused:

I'm goona start on Plus+Disc next.

Is 1 Mbps Internet connection enough to play MBAC online?

[Siren-Hill]

I just finished playing the Tsukihime Visual Novel and I must say Each ending are unique and some are downright disturbing.
I did like Kohaku's ending thought, I thought Akiha was gonna die but in the end she went back to being a good character *phew* Both Hisui's ending was a sorrowful one as Kohaku either dies or she loses her memories. And Akiha was the worst yet, she either loses her mind or Shiki dies.
I finished all the routes as follows:
1.) Arcueid
2.) Ciel
3.) Hisui
4.) Akiha
5.) Kohaku

After I finished Kohaku's route Ciel-senpai lesson says there still one more story left which is the main characters story(Shiki Tohno). What does this mean? Is there a Tohno Shiki route or something?:confused:

I'm goona start on Plus+Disc next.

Is 1 Mbps Internet connection enough to play MBAC online?Ciel refers to the Eclipse.

Akiha's true ending does not end there. You will understand more after you played 10 nights. As for Shiki, it doesn't matter which ending he got, as he will die shortly after the event of Tsukihime

Like I said, unless you give me your email address, it's hard to do it over the forum. Are you afraid I'm gonna hack your email? :eek:

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Ciel refers to the Eclipse.

Akiha's true ending does not end there. You will understand more after you played 10 nights. As for Shiki, it doesn't matter which ending he got, as he will die shortly after the event of Tsukihime

Is his death in Kagetsu Tohya? Now I'm really worried.:wth:

Like I said, unless you give me your email address, it's hard to do it over the forum. Are you afraid I'm gonna hack your email? :eek:

No no it's not that it's just I'm still practicing each character so I don't think I'm ready for online gaming yet. I can't seem to get the hang on those combos yet and for some reason when I'm practicing my pinky finger get's really painful.:eek: I'm still not used to all these button mashing I guess.:P

[Stifler]

Who dies? No one dies. XD

Best way to train is to play against someone. You can pick up their combos and stuff.

Of course, you can always play with me, Hill. You got my email.

[Twi]

Yeah he doesn't die....close to dying but not dead

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Who do you guys think would win if Tohno/Nanaya Shiki and Ryougi Shiki would duke it out?

Tohno Shiki's character is much more believable than Ryougi to me, He gets headaches whenever he uses his eyes while Ryougi does not. It just tells us that all Great Powers/Ability have consequences.

[Siren-Hill]

Who do you guys think would win if Tohno/Nanaya Shiki and Ryougi Shiki would duke it out?

Tohno Shiki's character is much more believable than Ryougi to me, He gets headaches whenever he uses his eyes while Ryougi does not. It just tells us that all Great Powers/Ability have consequences.Ryougi Shiki can keep up with a servant while Tohno Shiki can't which means that Ryougi Shiki would rape Tohno Shiki in a fight. No, Ryougi does have a weakness. She can't cut concrete stuffs very effectively while Tohno Shiki can. To put it more simple, Ryougi is specialized in abnormal stuffs while Tohno Shiki is specialized in physical stuffs. According to the Eclipse, Tohno Shiki will die at a very young age, not before he became Shikiller and destroyed everyone in town though. :D

[Eger-kun]

Ryougi Shiki can keep up with a servant while Tohno Shiki can't which means that Ryougi Shiki would rape Tohno Shiki in a fight. No, Ryougi does have a weakness. She can't cut concrete stuffs very effectively while Tohno Shiki can. To put it more simple, Ryougi is specialized in abnormal stuffs while Tohno Shiki is specialized in physical stuffs. According to the Eclipse, Tohno Shiki will die at a very young age, not before he became Shikiller and destroyed everyone in town though. :D

oh is that so I don't know about you but if you have played Battle Moon Wars (I don't know if it's linear to the story)

Tohno overcome Nanaya from within with the help of his new mentor Ryouji and she said so herself that Tohno does have better raw power than her.

[Siren-Hill]

oh is that so I don't know about you but if you have played Battle Moon Wars (I don't know if it's linear to the story)

Tohno overcome Nanaya from within with the help of his new mentor Ryouji and she said so herself that Tohno does have better raw power than her.Ryougi's eyes are at a more advanced level, but in term of strength, Shiki would be stronger than her. Raw strength is meaningless in a fight. No matter how you look at it, skill is more importance. In the end, Tohno Shiki is weaker than Ryougi. As I have stated before, if Ryougi could keep up with a servant while Tohno couldn't, it's only natural that Ryougi is the stronger one. Akiha would not win against Ryougi either. Besides Acrueid and Aoko, the only other person who may stand a chance against her is Ciel.

BMW is a fan game. The plot was not written by Nasu so it can't be taken as fact.

Melty Blood used to be just a fan game as well, but Nasu took a liking in the project so he had written the plot himself.

As for Shikiller, it's a joke.

Here is a small quiz for you: Name one of the reasons why Ryougi Shiki can't meet up with Tohno Shiki?

[Kay]

anyone know where i can see this manga?
ever since it get remove from onemanga i lost contact with it ><

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Ryougi's eyes are at a more advanced level, but in term of strength, Shiki would be stronger than her. Raw strength is meaningless in a fight. No matter how you look at it, skill is more importance. In the end, Tohno Shiki is weaker than Ryougi. As I have stated before, if Ryougi could keep up with a servant while Tohno couldn't, it's only natural that Ryougi is the stronger one. Akiha would not win against Ryougi either. Besides Acrueid and Aoko, the only other person who may stand a chance against her is Ciel.
I don't know......Nanaya Shiki might be able to keep up with a servant, he is a perfect killer afterall.

Here is a small quiz for you: Name one of the reasons why Ryougi Shiki can't meet up with Tohno Shiki?

I did see something like that in the Plus+Disc. How Ryogi and Tohno Shiki can't meet or Arcueid and Touko because of inconsistencies or something I didn't really understand it. Can you explain fo me.


anyone know where i can see this manga?
ever since it get remove from onemanga i lost contact with it ><

Just Google it. Findmanga and Mangafox has it. Findmanga have a better quality but are lacking in chapters while Mangafox is up to date but has poor quality and really slow to load or visit stifler's blog.

I was just wondering, How old is Ciel-senpai anyway? She was the 17th reincarnation of Roa and Arcueid killed her like 18 years ago or something right? Maybe she in her 30's or 40's.

[methaniel]

At Kay, check out Stifler's blog, it's in his sig (he posted in the previous page), he is doing the next scanlations.
Oh, and I was wondering, how did you bought the game? I saw the patches for english translations on internet s I may be interest in Tsukihime and FSN finally...I just hope I'll find it in my import shops

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Unfortunately for me Visual Novel games aren't sold here in our country and plus I don't have money to buy it online so I had to acquire it in a more questionable means. (Can't really say it. don't want to get in trouble):P I do recommend that you play these games if you like in to visual novels and bored of violent, fast paced western games. Buy it NOW!

[Siren-Hill]

I don't know......Nanaya Shiki might be able to keep up with a servant, he is a perfect killer afterall.



I did see something like that in the Plus+Disc. How Ryogi and Tohno Shiki can't meet or Arcueid and Touko because of inconsistencies or something I didn't really understand it. Can you explain fo me.




Just Google it. Findmanga and Mangafox has it. Findmanga have a better quality but are lacking in chapters while Mangafox is up to date but has poor quality and really slow to load or visit stifler's blog.

I was just wondering, How old is Ciel-senpai anyway? She was the 17th reincarnation of Roa and Arcueid killed her like 18 years ago or something right? Maybe she in her 30's or 40's.
Nanaya Shiki doesn't actually exist. Furthermore, he doesn't have the eyes of death perception so it's hard for him to defeat them. It's almost impossible for Tohno Shiki to see the lines as well since servants had already dead. Think of Servants as a phenomenon. As Nasu stated, besides Arcueid, Ciel, and Kouma, no one in Tsukihime can actually match the servants head-on. Basically, Touko want to create a perfect human being, but Arcueid is a perfect human being already. If Arcueid actually exists in Ryougi's universe, there is no way Touko would not have notice it.
Curry senpai was 21 years old when Tsukihime takes place.
Generally, most of the Dead Apostles would be able to kick servants' ***.

[Twi]

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images//5/56/TYPE-MOON_relations.jpg

The type-moon universe is huge

[methaniel]

Oh, it's a cool image Twi...
I should really try the other stuff from Type-Moon be it at least Fate/Stay Night (though, I know most of the characters...) and Melty Blood (so that's where the Mech-Hisui and Magical Amber came from, as well as White Len and Satsuki being a vampire)
Really good universe

[Tekkaman Saber]

Huge is an understatement there are countless books and their is even one alternateive series where shiki is a woman! >_<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_no_Kyoukai
According to stifler It is the only type moon work that exists in anime/movie form.... (since all of the others are so terrible that it is better to jsut deny there existence).

[Eger-kun]

oh so Kara no Kyoukai is somewhat good anime then hmmm time to fill it up in my to watch list :>

oh and Shiki Ryouji is somewhat better than Tohno right so what's the problem in that

and many thanks for Twi's image link and now I make avis out of it

[Kay]

Just Google it. Findmanga and Mangafox has it. Findmanga have a better quality but are lacking in chapters while Mangafox is up to date but has poor quality and really slow to load or visit stifler's blog.
well mangafox doesnt have it as far i can see(maybe i just cant find it)

[Siren-Hill]

Huge is an understatement there are countless books and their is even one alternateive series where shiki is a woman! >_<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_no_Kyoukai
According to stifler It is the only type moon work that exists in anime/movie form.... (since all of the others are so terrible that it is better to jsut deny there existence).It's the other way around. Shiki turned into a man in Tsukihime. Garden of Sinners is the blueprint for Tsukihime.

I don't know about that statement. Fate/Stay night anime is not that bad.

[Siren-Hill]

Oh, it's a cool image Twi...
I should really try the other stuff from Type-Moon be it at least Fate/Stay Night (though, I know most of the characters...) and Melty Blood (so that's where the Mech-Hisui and Magical Amber came from, as well as White Len and Satsuki being a vampire)
Really good universeMagical Amber is one of the main antagonists in 10 nights, not Melty Blood.

[Siren-Hill]

oh so Kara no Kyoukai is somewhat good anime then hmmm time to fill it up in my to watch list :>

oh and Shiki Ryouji is somewhat better than Tohno right so what's the problem in that

and many thanks for Twi's image link and now I make avis out of itI was just answer someone question when they ask which one is stronger.

[methaniel]

At kay, the manga on MF is using the full name Shingetsutan Tsukihime, that's why you may not have fin it

At Siren-hill.you know, you can make multi-quote or edit your post instead of post-in-a-row which are forbidden >.>
Makes me think, is there translations of Kara no Kyoukai's novel? Or else, I'll try to search for the films
And 10 nights? What is that? This name doesn't ring a bell amongst the game of Type-Moon...

[Siren-Hill]

At kay, the manga on MF is using the full name Shingetsutan Tsukihime, that's why you may not have fin it

At Siren-hill.you know, you can make multi-quote or edit your post instead of post-in-a-row which are forbidden >.>
Makes me think, is there translations of Kara no Kyoukai's novel? Or else, I'll try to search for the films
And 10 nights? What is that? This name doesn't ring a bell amongst the game of Type-Moon...I was referred to Kagetsu Tohya.
If you want to read Garden of Sinners, read it here:
http://mirrormoon.org/projects/kara_no_kyoukai

[Kay]

At kay, the manga on MF is using the full name Shingetsutan Tsukihime, that's why you may not have fin it

At Siren-hill.you know, you can make multi-quote or edit your post instead of post-in-a-row which are forbidden >.>
Makes me think, is there translations of Kara no Kyoukai's novel? Or else, I'll try to search for the films
And 10 nights? What is that? This name doesn't ring a bell amongst the game of Type-Moon...

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/index/at.s/
ok where?
edit:nvm

[Stifler]

There.

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/series/1116/shingetsutan_tsukihime/

Mirrormoon only has Kara no Kyoukai up to chapter 3, Remaining Sense of Pain. For further chapters, like, Void Shrine and the first half of Paradox Spire, you can check out baka-tsuki. But as Kara no Kyoukai has been licensed for an official English translation, they've stopped their work. Expect to see Kara no Kyoukai hitting the stores later this year.

[Kay]

ok theres something weird......
i still remember tht i stop at around 2-3 at onemanga
the place i stop at is shiki(he sneak out from his house) and accidentally meet ciel(with a dead body) while she in some kind of uniform
but in onemanga,shiki meet with arcueid and follow her to a hotel..?
ok i kinda....blur help me out?

[Namikaze_Naruto]

ok theres something weird......
i still remember tht i stop at around 2-3 at onemanga
the place i stop at is shiki(he sneak out from his house) and accidentally meet ciel(with a dead body) while she in some kind of uniform
but in onemanga,shiki meet with arcueid and follow her to a hotel..?
ok i kinda....blur help me out?

I think maybe your confusing the visual novel routes from the manga. In ciel route Shiki did meet ciel when he snuck out of the mansion during one of ciel's patrols. The manga follows Arcueid's route complete with H scenes and stuff.:thumbup:

So Neko-Arc is really canon? She is really a true character of Melty Blood? I thought she's just Arcuied's chibi form.

[Kay]

ok,so i am getting more confuse,so confuse till i cant even type what i gonna ask
so theres got 2 chapter of the same chapter??

[Namikaze_Naruto]

ok,so i am getting more confuse,so confuse till i cant even type what i gonna ask
so theres got 2 chapter of the same chapter??

In the visual novel there are 5 routes. 2 of which is the main story(Arcueid & Ciel's) and 3 for side stories (Akiha, Hisui and Kohako's). In the main story you can choose if you want to follow Arcuied routes, which is what the manga is following, or follow Ciel's which is a different story (your love gal in this route is Ciel and not Arcuied.)

But it is said on the Plus+Disc that Arcuied's route is the true ending of Tsukihime.

[Kay]

so there got another version/ending for this manga?

[Stifler]

ok,so i am getting more confuse,so confuse till i cant even type what i gonna ask
so theres got 2 chapter of the same chapter??

No, there isn't. You are just confused. Worse case solution is for you to read everything all over again :P

Or tell me what is the last thing you remember and I'll try to locate the character for you.

I think maybe your confusing the visual novel routes from the manga. In ciel route Shiki did meet ciel when he snuck out of the mansion during one of ciel's patrols. The manga follows Arcueid's route complete with H scenes and stuff.:thumbup:

So Neko-Arc is really canon? She is really a true character of Melty Blood? I thought she's just Arcuied's chibi form.

Yes, Neko-Arc is a canon joke character. XD Ahahaha

[Kay]

No, there isn't. You are just confused. Worse case solution is for you to read everything all over again :P



that what i am doing right now
chapter 0,1 fit in well(in my memory) but after that boom...ok wtf did i have amnesia?

Or tell me what is the last thing you remember and I'll try to locate the character for you.
here you go
ok theres something weird......
i still remember tht i stop at around 2-3 at onemanga
the place i stop at is shiki(he sneak out from his house) and accidentally meet ciel(with a dead body) while she in some kind of uniform
but in mangafox,shiki meet with arcueid and follow her to a hotel..?
ok i kinda....blur help me out?

[Namikaze_Naruto]

so there got another version/ending for this manga?

Yes. Both Arcueid and Ciel route have 2 endings each. a true ending and a good ending. That's a total of 4 endings in the main story alone!

Why don't you try and play the vusual novel. I guarantee you'll love it.

[Kay]

no i mean the manga,not the game(screw the dl my internet sucks T_T)

[Namikaze_Naruto]

no i mean the manga,not the game(screw the dl my internet sucks T_T)

Well if it's the manga then I think it follows Arcueid's true ending which is a sorrowful one.

[Kay]

haiz,let me repeat my question more time
maybe you didnt understand...
ok theres something weird......
i still remember tht i stop at around 2-3 at onemanga
the place i stop at is shiki(he sneak out from his house) and accidentally meet with ciel(with a dead body) while she in some kind of uniform
but in mangafox,shiki meet with arcueid and follow her to a hotel..?
ok i kinda....blur help me out?

[Stifler]

Yes, but whatever you typed there doesn't make sense. And you talk about a dead body, which should be, well, dead. At no point in time does Ciel carry anything like that.

Only thing I can think of is chapter 32, where Shiki meets up with SHIKI, and where Ciel interrupts the fight.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

@ Kay
I don't really get your question. I don't really remember Shiki meeting Ciel with a body in the manga. I do know that he followed Arcueid to a hotel to be her shield/guard.

[Kay]

she didnt carry the dead body
he bump into her while he sneak out from the house,i think he do tht to buy some food idk
then he saw a corpses lying at the ground and while he continue to look he saw ciel
i can show you the exact page if onemanga didnt bar the manga

[Rabbit]

Shiki bumps into Arcueid on his way home from school after he has an anemia attack and is allowed to go home early.

Meeting a powerful True Ancestor triggers his Nanaya conditioning and he then proceeds to cut her into 17 pieces. "This is, without a doubt, reality wrought by my own hands."

Incidentally this is where the Arcueid and Ciel routes diverge in the VN. The anime (yes, admit it, there is a Tsukihime anime and it sucked.) and manga both follow Arcueid's route as far as I know.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

@Kay
I guess that it happened. I don't really remember it. Though he hasn't recognized that it was Ciel yet.

[Stifler]

she didnt carry the dead body
he bump into her while he sneak out from the house,i think he do tht to buy some food idk
then he saw a corpses lying at the ground and while he continue to look he saw ciel
i can show you the exact page if onemanga didnt bar the manga


Before or after the fight with Chaos? Also, before or after Ciel's fight with Akiha?

[Siren-Hill]

They can't possibly make any other route for the manga since the title is Tsukihime. The same goes for Fate.

[Kay]

Shiki bumps into Arcueid on his way home from school after he has an anemia attack and is allowed to go home early.

Meeting a powerful True Ancestor triggers his Nanaya conditioning and he then proceeds to cut her into 17 pieces. "This is, without a doubt, reality wrought by my own hands."

Incidentally this is where the Arcueid and Ciel routes diverge in the VN. The anime (yes, admit it, there is a Tsukihime anime and it sucked.) and manga both follow Arcueid's route as far as I know.

^yea wut he say
but the weird thing is i swear i see the ciel route at onemanga
after shiki saw ciel he fainted and he was awake at his house,his sis pretty mad bout it and theres where i stop since i cant view the manga at there anymore

[Namikaze_Naruto]

I hope they'll make an anime worthy to be recognize by typemoon fans. One with a good ending in them. Or better yet make an anime on all the 5 routes.

I just noticed something.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images//5/56/TYPE-MOON_relations.jpg

It seems like Hisui and Kohaku from Tsukihime is related to Fujyo Kirie from Kara no kyoukai.
So I guess it's true that it's okay for sub-heroines to interact with other characters from Nasuverse.

[Tekkaman Saber]

It's the other way around. Shiki turned into a man in Tsukihime. Garden of Sinners is the blueprint for Tsukihime.

Ahh sorry about that, thanks for the clarification.

I don't know about that statement. Fate/Stay night anime is not that bad.Yes it is >_> It seems like they are hugging the poorer rute whereas the second and third routes in the game are better.

Then again the same could be said about the mythological tsukihime anime for hugging the arc route.

Also it's impossible for me to buy, though thats my fault for living in the uk where only 1% vhs/dvd sales are anime related.

[Siren-Hill]

I hope they'll make an anime worthy to be recognize by typemoon fans. One with a good ending in them. Or better yet make an anime on all the 5 routes.

I just noticed something.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images//5/56/TYPE-MOON_relations.jpg

It seems like Hisui and Kohaku from Tsukihime is related to Fujyo Kirie from Kara no kyoukai.
So I guess it's true that it's okay for sub-heroines to interact with other characters from Nasuverse.Sacchin is not a Tatari. I wonder why they put her as a Tatari?

[Stifler]

Fake Sacchin, summoned by the 13th DAA known as the Night of Walachia, aka TATARI. Therefore, she is TATARI.

[Siren-Hill]

Fake Sacchin, summoned by the 13th DAA known as the Night of Walachia, aka TATARI. Therefore, she is TATARI.The one in Melty Blood is the real one and not a Tatari. That is what I meant. Since the game based on Sacchin's ending, there is no way she's a Tatari. She did say that she can go out to the sunlight if she has 200 cc amount of blood a week. That is proof that she's alive.

[Twi]

So Shiki let her live?

[Siren-Hill]

So Shiki let her live?Basically yes, apparently, she didn't kill anyone during her route, and during her route, she was being hunted by Curry. I think Shiki may have to fight Curry to protect Sacchin. In plus disc, Neko Arc mentions that Shiki and Arc team up and fight Roa as well as Nero to prevent Roa from controlling Sacchin.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

The one in Melty Blood is the real one and not a Tatari. That is what I meant. Since the game based on Sacchin's ending, there is no way she's a Tatari. She did say that she can go out to the sunlight if she has 200 cc amount of blood a week. That is proof that she's alive.

Actually in Melty Blood manga Sacchin already died. Shiki already killed her months ago. Tatari, recognizing Shiki's anxiety of his failure to help Sacchin took her form in order to take him down. However in the melty blood game Sacchin wasn't killed by Shiki and is also a friend of Sion. In the tag team battle it was called "the backalley alliance" which tells us that they probably met in a backalley as Sion sleeps in one.

Nanaya Shiki doesn't actually exist. Furthermore, he doesn't have the eyes of death perception so it's hard for him to defeat them.

Now that you mention it Nanaya Shiki didn't have the mystic eyes of death perception in Kagetsu Tohya, he only have speed, agility and animalistic movements. Does this mean that the eyes of death perception isn't an ability of the Nanaya clan? That Tohno Shiki got this ability when he was killed by Tohno SHIKI?

Can anyone tell me what series Altrouge Brunestud will come out? She's Arcueid's sister isn't she? I read that Arcueid was defeated by Altrouge and is also the reason why Arcueid's hair is now short, because Altrouge took it as a prize of victory.
http://otonashi.akibakko-storage.net/image/79/73/lgc.jpg
Seems like she's the complete opposite of Arcueid, with black hair and she usually wears black gown.

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Altrouge_Brunestud

[Stifler]

The Mystic Eyes of Death Perception isn't an ability of the Nanayas. Through they do tend to have mystic eyes, they aren't of the Death Perception category. Shiki got his eyes after being killed by SHIKI, and that's a spoiler, so put it in tags.

And Altrouge doesn't actually appear in any series whatsoever. We know of her existence, but we have no idea how she looks like, what her powers are and stuff. She's one big mystery. Any art work you see of Altrouge is fanmade and isn't official, but it is known that she has black hair, and prefers taking the form of a child, much like Merem.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

The Mystic Eyes of Death Perception isn't an ability of the Nanayas. Through they do tend to have mystic eyes, they aren't of the Death Perception category. Shiki got his eyes after being killed by SHIKI, and that's a spoiler, so put it in tags.

And Altrouge doesn't actually appear in any series whatsoever. We know of her existence, but we have no idea how she looks like, what her powers are and stuff. She's one big mystery. Any art work you see of Altrouge is fanmade and isn't official, but it is known that she has black hair, and prefers taking the form of a child, much like Merem.

It was said that Altrouge have 2 forms. One of which is a 14 year old girl and the other is even more powerful.

If anyone is interested about the 27 dead apostles, Altrouge brunestud etc. then I recommend this.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3626670/1/The_27_Dead_Apostles

which is the same as what is talked here, just scroll down.
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81982

not sure if it's true or not.

[Siren-Hill]

Actually in Melty Blood manga Sacchin already died. Shiki already killed her months ago. Tatari, recognizing Shiki's anxiety of his failure to help Sacchin took her form in order to take him down. However in the melty blood game Sacchin wasn't killed by Shiki and is also a friend of Sion. In the tag team battle it was called "the backalley alliance" which tells us that they probably met in a backalley as Sion sleeps in one.



Now that you mention it Nanaya Shiki didn't have the mystic eyes of death perception in Kagetsu Tohya, he only have speed, agility and animalistic movements. Does this mean that the eyes of death perception isn't an ability of the Nanaya clan? That Tohno Shiki got this ability when he was killed by Tohno SHIKI?

Can anyone tell me what series Altrouge Brunestud will come out? She's Arcueid's sister isn't she? I read that Arcueid was defeated by Altrouge and is also the reason why Arcueid's hair is now short, because Altrouge took it as a prize of victory.
http://otonashi.akibakko-storage.net/image/79/73/lgc.jpg
Seems like she's the complete opposite of Arcueid, with black hair and she usually wears black gown.

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Altrouge_BrunestudThe thing is the manga isn't written by Nasu so the storyline is noncanon. I don't think I was wrong in any way about Sacchin. She's not dead yet (Well! She's dead but alive at the same thing with the whole vampire deal and all).

Shiki got the ability due to the near death experience. The Nanaya clan doesn't have Mystic Eyes of Death Perception just to clear things up.

Type Moon is waiting for a chance to take over Arcueid. In Actress Again, she'll turn into Type Moon if Roa defeated her. As Type Moon, she would be unstoppable.

Yes, Astrouge does have two forms. She won over Arcueid but lost to Roa.

[Eger-kun]

oh just a question guys does Arcueid's Marble Phantasm can really stand against that of Gilgamesh Enula Elish (forgot the spelling)

and if any of you can help me in Battle Moon Wars Episode 49 care to look at these

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6945/screeniepj5.jpg


i'm having problems in deploying the characters >_< when I fill one side I can't seem to return to the other

[Siren-Hill]

oh just a question guys does Arcueid's Marble Phantasm can really stand against that of Gilgamesh Enula Elish (forgot the spelling)

and if any of you can help me in Battle Moon Wars Episode 49 care to look at these

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6945/screeniepj5.jpg


i'm having problems in deploying the characters >_< when I fill one side I can't seem to return to the other
It has been quite some times since I played BTW so I can't really help you there.

As for Arcueid, Gilgamesh can't stand against her in a fight, end of question. It takes 4 servants to match her. She's invincible during the night. As for Arcueid's Marble Phantasm, she can make it into anything she wants so it's a lot stronger than what Gilgamesh can dish out.

The Holy Grail has almost limitless amount of mana, I wonder what would happen if Sacchin activates her Reality Marble there. The thing that ozzing out from the Holy Grail is mana and not Od.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Ryougi Shiki can keep up with a servant while Tohno Shiki can't which means that Ryougi Shiki would rape Tohno Shiki in a fight.


Generally, most of the Dead Apostles would be able to kick servants' ***.

What you said on both of your post contradicts each other.

You said that Tohno Shiki can't keep up with a servant and you also said that most of the 27 Dead Apostle would kick servants ***.

Shiki manage to defeat 3 of the 27 Dead Apostles (Nero, Roa and Tatari), he probably is the only one with a highest body count on Dead Apostles not related to the Church's Burial agency and the Mage Association yet he can't keep up with a servant like Rider? I think that he can keep up with them.

[Siren-Hill]

What you said on both of your post contradicts each other.

You said that Tohno Shiki can't keep up with a servant and you also said that most of the 27 Dead Apostle would kick servants ***.

Shiki manage to defeat 3 of the 27 Dead Apostles (Nero, Roa and Tatari), he probably is the only one with a highest body count on Dead Apostles not related to the Church's Burial agency and the Mage Association yet he can't keep up with a servant like Rider? I think that he can keep up with them.Where's that contradiction you was speaking of? Servants are dead already so Shiki can't see the lines on them. In other words, they do not follow Gaia's concept of death. Without the lines, Shiki can't damage them. Note that servants can't be damaged by normal means. Ryougi Shiki's eyes are more advanced in killing concept so she may be able to see it. Tohno can't kill certain concepts like Tatari since it does not exist in the first place. Like I said, Ciel, Kouma, and Aoko can keep up with servants but not Tohno Shiki. Tohno Shiki is not that strong, you know?
There are several differences between Ryougi and Shiki. While Ryougi is more adapt to killing concepts as far as language itself, Tohno can cut physical stuffs just like butter, and I can't believe it's not butter. As far as I know, Ryougi can't cut through hard stuffs like concrete. The lines Ryougi see are more colorful while the lines Tohno see are gray. Another advantage Tohno has over Ryougi is that he can see the point of death. As I said before, Ryougi is much stronger than Tohno. She can kill the distance between the 2 persons which is pretty much instant teleportation, not to mention her arm pwns. Besides, Ryougi can use the eyes without any penalty. The difference in power between the two of them is just too great.

[Stifler]

And because Nasu said so. XD

[Siren-Hill]

And because Nasu said so. XDLiar, it's because of Magical Amber and not Nasu. She is the one responsible for Sion's unlimited combos and White Len being a Tsundere. I wouldn't be surprised she's behind this, too. :mad:

[Stifler]

Ahahahaha.

Magical Amber is a laugh. And a white cat is fine too. :P

[Rabbit]

Ahahahaha.

Magical Amber is a laugh. And a white cat is fine too. :P

It's all about White Cat tsundere. I'll get you one day Stifler... >.<

and if any of you can help me in Battle Moon Wars Episode 49 care to look at these

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6945/screeniepj5.jpg


i'm having problems in deploying the characters >_< when I fill one side I can't seem to return to the other


I'm not sure what you mean by this. Basically your group splits off into two and each one is trapped in their own separate areas, and they have to fight the bosses on their own. It's a tricky map, I got stuck on it too due to not building up my characters properly. Could've beaten it in time but I was going for battle masteries and I couldn't have done that ;__;

[Stifler]

They can cross over, you know. The characters' don't have to fight each boss one on one. If you finish Araya fast enough, you can move your characters over and take on Walachia.

[Eger-kun]

Hey it's not that I have sucky characters builds

Shiro having full tough since he has Indomitable Skill while most of the agile characters with SP Regen

but that was kinda of a hectic and well I did solve the problem minutes after I posted the pic *sigh*

oh and well I did finish the game already and Kuu was quite a bugger >_> even for Arceuid and most of the heavy hitters like Takumi , Saber , Ryuuji, Shiro and Ciel .too bad I didn't understand stuff pass Episode 49 >_<

[Eveonder Maelstrom]

I'm so confused here... I have no idea what you guys are talking about... is this a game or some hypothetical crossover RPG? =S...

and can you tell me why Tohno cant see lines on the servants? They're dead but they still have physical manifestations and Tohno could cut that couldn't he...? Even if he can't, he can do huge destruction of environment. Everything has lines except those beyond death... and even Arcueid has lines except when she's in her best state. At worst, Tohno could attempt to cut the concept of the servants. As for the power difference between Ryougi and Tohno... or rather Ryougi and Nanaya... their abilities are similar but different and I doubt Nanaya would lose to Ryougi unless the battle drags out beyond the brain's limits. A worst he can do a huge suicide and stab one of the huge points in the ground he sees and cause a limited scope earthquake/collapse... in either case... it really depends on which Shiki gets the first cut... if any one of them get a cut off, their opponent is as good as dead.

[Eger-kun]

Biri Biri it's Battle Moon Wars and if you want I can give you links for you to play it and if I might add it's FSN/Tsukihime/Kara no Kyoukai T- Crossover RPG

and in my understanding that the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception can cut through anything that has "existence " and it can also destroy non-physical things, such as spells, thoughts, magecraft, and even nature so why can't it destroy Servants . hmm Maybe it has to do with the servants connection with Great Grail

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Where's that contradiction you was speaking of? Servants are dead already so Shiki can't see the lines on them. In other words, they do not follow Gaia's concept of death. Without the lines, Shiki can't damage them. Note that servants can't be damaged by normal means. Ryougi Shiki's eyes are more advanced in killing concept so she may be able to see it. Tohno can't kill certain concepts like Tatari since it does not exist in the first place. Like I said, Ciel, Kouma, and Aoko can keep up with servants but not Tohno Shiki. Tohno Shiki is not that strong, you know?
There are several differences between Ryougi and Shiki. While Ryougi is more adapt to killing concepts as far as language itself, Tohno can cut physical stuffs just like butter, and I can't believe it's not butter. As far as I know, Ryougi can't cut through hard stuffs like concrete. The lines Ryougi see are more colorful while the lines Tohno see are gray. Another advantage Tohno has over Ryougi is that he can see the point of death. As I said before, Ryougi is much stronger than Tohno. She can kill the distance between the 2 persons which is pretty much instant teleportation, not to mention her arm pwns. Besides, Ryougi can use the eyes without any penalty. The difference in power between the two of them is just too great.

I didn't say that he could beat them I just said that he can somehow defend himself against a servant's attack. When the phrase "he can't keep up with a servant" was said it's like saying he can't do a damn thing to protect himself. Also aren't vampires also dead yet he can still see lines on them. Maybe what you mean is that Servants are like Tatari, since that entity does not exist as an actual being, but instead as a concept so he can't see lines on him however Tatari has no physical form while Servants do and Shiki manage to kill Tatari fakes (Sion Tatari, Yumizika Tatari etc.) so it's still a bit confusing.

and can you tell me why Tohno cant see lines on the servants? They're dead but they still have physical manifestations and Tohno could cut that couldn't he...? Even if he can't, he can do huge destruction of environment. Everything has lines except those beyond death... and even Arcueid has lines except when she's in her best state. At worst, Tohno could attempt to cut the concept of the servants. As for the power difference between Ryougi and Tohno... or rather Ryougi and Nanaya... their abilities are similar but different and I doubt Nanaya would lose to Ryougi unless the battle drags out beyond the brain's limits. A worst he can do a huge suicide and stab one of the huge points in the ground he sees and cause a limited scope earthquake/collapse... in either case... it really depends on which Shiki gets the first cut... if any one of them get a cut off, their opponent is as good as dead.

I'm also confuse about that. Servants are phenomenon and are quite different from mortals however they still exist within the realm of reality so there is an existence and Tohno Shiki's ability is to kill the very existence of an object so why can't he kill them? Even he has the ability to kill Arcueid completely and she's stronger than servants. In Ciel's route even under a full moon night he can still see traces of lines (Albeit faint ones) on Arcueid's body and she's suppose to be invincible in that time.

and in my understanding that the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception can cut through anything that has "existence " and it can also destroy non-physical things, such as spells, thoughts, magecraft, and even nature so why can't it destroy Servants . hmm Maybe it has to do with the servants connection with Great Grail

According to this (http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Tohno_Shiki) Tohno Shiki's ability is an incredibly powerful pseudo-magical effect. Attendant with the perception is the ability to trace the lines without much exertion; doing so effectively realizes the fated destruction, and the victim is cut or cracked or broken along those lines. Because this destruction is destined, this method of injury ignores any of the victim's defenses; armor, magical protection, regeneration, and so forth are useless. So basically even Magical defenses is not an obstacle for him.

[Eveonder Maelstrom]

Well it's a game... just cuz you can't in the game... not produced by moon-type as far as I can tell, doesn't mean much... anyways, based off the anime shiki tohno is totally weak but in the game and the manga he's much much stronger

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Is Battle Moon Wars a good game? Is it an online game?

Also I'm not really a fan of Kara no Kyoukai so I was just wondering are there any vampires as allies/enemies or is that show just for supernatural/Spirits and Magic?

Well it's a game... just cuz you can't in the game... not produced by moon-type as far as I can tell, doesn't mean much... anyways, based off the anime shiki tohno is totally weak but in the game and the manga he's much much stronger

Compared to Shirou Emiya Tohno Shiki is much stronger.

[Rabbit]

Well it's a game... just cuz you can't in the game... not produced by moon-type as far as I can tell, doesn't mean much... anyways, based off the anime shiki tohno is totally weak but in the game and the manga he's much much stronger

Although it may sound strange, Shiki in the anime is actually closer to Shiki in the visual novel. In the manga he comes across as being a lot more self-confident, at least during the Nrvnqsr Chaos fights, and seems to kill them quite effectively, possibly because he's able to access some of his..."special" nature. But in the VN he is still pretty terrified of facing these beasts as any normal human would be, but he's able to push past it...although not without taking significant injuries.

Is Battle Moon Wars a good game? Is it an online game?

Also I'm not really a fan of Kara no Kyoukai so I was just wondering are there any vampires as allies/enemies or is that show just for supernatural/Spirits and Magic?

Compared to Shirou Emiya Tohno Shiki is much stronger.

Battle Moon Wars is a Super Robot Wars clone that uses Type-MOON characters from all of its most famous works (Tsukihime, Fate/stay night, Kara no Kyoukai, Fate/hollow ataraxia) and has a very Super Robot Wars-esque plot. It's a really fun game with a good design, although it is somewhat lacking in certain areas, as is the case with all games.

There are no vampires to speak of in Kara no Kyoukai, it's mostly about the supernatural. It was kinda like a prototype for Tsukihime, the vampires were only really added in later and Ryougi is definitely overpowered in comparsion to her later incarnation as Tohno Shiki.

Shiki himself is no more or less powerful than Emiya Shirou. Granted, the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception are pretty damn powerful but they're nothing without a weapon for him to use and the superior physical abilities granted to him by his Nanaya conditioning. He can only really access those as Nanaya and that personality only emerges when he's in the presence of demons or other evil supernatural beings. Otherwise Shiki is about as strong as an ordinary human whereas Shirou actually trains and strengthens his body to supplement his mage training.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Although it may sound strange, Shiki in the anime is actually closer to Shiki in the visual novel. In the manga he comes across as being a lot more self-confident, at least during the Nrvnqsr Chaos fights, and seems to kill them quite effectively, possibly because he's able to access some of his..."special" nature. But in the VN he is still pretty terrified of facing these beasts as any normal human would be, but he's able to push past it...although not without taking significant injuries.

There are no vampires to speak of in Kara no Kyoukai, it's mostly about the supernatural. It was kinda like a prototype for Tsukihime, the vampires were only really added in later and Ryougi is definitely overpowered in comparsion to her later incarnation as Tohno Shiki.

Shiki himself is no more or less powerful than Emiya Shirou. Granted, the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception are pretty damn powerful but they're nothing without a weapon for him to use and the superior physical abilities granted to him by his Nanaya conditioning. He can only really access those as Nanaya and that personality only emerges when he's in the presence of demons or other evil supernatural beings. Otherwise Shiki is about as strong as an ordinary human whereas Shirou actually trains and strengthens his body to supplement his mage training.

That's the biggest difference of Shirou and Shiki. Shirou needs to train in order to keep up with his Trace magic, Shiki's abilities on the other hand is instinctive.

I have to disagree about what you said on only ascessing his killing skills when only face with demons and non humans comment though. Shiki's body can somehow detect a threat and act to defend without conscious thought so his clans ability is still present although not as great as when his darker side takes over.

Why is it that there are many good Fate/Stay Night Wallpapers out there but only a handful of Tsukihime wallpapers? Can anyone recommend sites that have good Wallpapers of Tsukihime.

[Eger-kun]

problem with Shiki is that the his brains can have injuries if he keeps on using the Mystic Eyes to it's utmost limits while Shirou now has Archer's arm to boot >_>. As for Nanaya hmm I wonder where will he emerge from in the manga then

oh and there are kinda good wallpaper on animepaper.net

[methaniel]

Gyabo, I went for a bit, and coming back, there is too many post for me t bother reading it all, damned T.T

Oh well, thanks for the tip Stifler, I didn't thought of Baka-Tsuki for the Light Novel (though...even if it's released in english, it won't be released here, I have yet to see any Light Novel translated in french...even something like Haruhi)

Oh and well, I began the game, I didn't had much time to play, but so far, I'm enjoying it (thuogh, since I'm playing at Battle Moon Wars and ate/stay Night at the same time...I'm slow). Roa has yet to appear, it's to show how (not) far I went (I think I'm trying my best for taking Arceuid's route, but without wanting I was making all the Ciel's event instead at first >.>)

Gyabo, Eger seems to be really far in BMW now, I should quickly play more and also download the 4th part

[Siren-Hill]

I didn't say that he could beat them I just said that he can somehow defend himself against a servant's attack. When the phrase "he can't keep up with a servant" was said it's like saying he can't do a damn thing to protect himself. Also aren't vampires also dead yet he can still see lines on them. Maybe what you mean is that Servants are like Tatari, since that entity does not exist as an actual being, but instead as a concept so he can't see lines on him however Tatari has no physical form while Servants do and Shiki manage to kill Tatari fakes (Sion Tatari, Yumizika Tatari etc.) so it's still a bit confusing. I'm also confuse about that. Servants are phenomenon and are quite different from mortals however they still exist within the realm of reality so there is an existence and Tohno Shiki's ability is to kill the very existence of an object so why can't he kill them? Even he has the ability to kill Arcueid completely and she's stronger than servants. In Ciel's route even under a full moon night he can still see traces of lines (Albeit faint ones) on Arcueid's body and she's suppose to be invincible in that time.



According to this (http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Tohno_Shiki) Tohno Shiki's ability is an incredibly powerful pseudo-magical effect. Attendant with the perception is the ability to trace the lines without much exertion; doing so effectively realizes the fated destruction, and the victim is cut or cracked or broken along those lines. Because this destruction is destined, this method of injury ignores any of the victim's defenses; armor, magical protection, regeneration, and so forth are useless. So basically even Magical defenses is not an obstacle for him.Not really, Shiki can manage to "kill" the Tatari, but it's just temporary. It will continue to appear forever. BTW, there is no fake Sacchin Tatari. The manga is noncanon. No, he can't defend himself against a servant. Why? Because Nasu said so, he said that Ciel can defend against the servants while Kouma and Miss Blue can take them head on. Are you calling Nasu a liar? :eek: Vampires are technically dead, but they still belong to this world, servants are basically not the beings of this world. Basically, it's a contradiction so even the world itself will try to eliminate the existence of the servants. Furthermore, servants have been dead a long time ago, their spirit does not exist in this world but rather being reserved somewhere else. If you want to kill the servants, you have to kill their soul, but the soul do not exist in this world. Tatari can take physical form, but what you kill will be an imagination and nothing more since it does not exist in the first place. That is why it's impossible for Shiki to do so. Arcueid is ultimate being of nature, but she still follows Gaia's death concept. She's still a being of this present world. You're right, he can cut through almost anything physical. Still, Ryougi is better at concept. Each one of them have their strong and weak points.

[Rabbit]

Not really, Shiki can manage to "kill" the Tatari, but it's just temporary. It will continue to appear forever. BTW, there is no fake Sacchin Tatari. The manga is noncanon. No, he can't defend himself against a servant. Why? Because Nasu said so, he said that Ciel can defend against the servants while Kouma and Miss Blue can take them head on. Are you calling Nasu a liar? :eek: Vampires are technically dead, but they still belong to this world, servants are basically not the beings of this world. Basically, it's a contradiction so even the world itself will try to eliminate the existence of the servants. Furthermore, servants have been dead a long time ago, their spirit does not exist in this world but rather being reserved somewhere else. If you want to kill the servants, you have to kill their soul, but the soul do not exist in this world. Tatari can take physical form, but what you kill will be an imagination and nothing more since it does not exist in the first place. That is why it's impossible for Shiki to do so. Arcueid is ultimate being of nature, but she still follows Gaia's death concept. She's still a being of this present world. You're right, he can cut through almost anything physical. Still, Ryougi is better at concept. Each one of them have their strong and weak points.

All my eloquence fails to express it any better than this. Even without getting into the technical bits of the Nasuverse, Servants are materialised by the Holy Grail which allows the user to accomplish feats considered impossible by modern magecraft. Materialising something that has already passed its fated destruction is child's play.

[Siren-Hill]

All my eloquence fails to express it any better than this. Even without getting into the technical bits of the Nasuverse, Servants are materialised by the Holy Grail which allows the user to accomplish feats considered impossible by modern magecraft. Materialising something that has already passed its fated destruction is child's play.OMG, I'm so embarrassed. I forgot to check my post, and I kept saying "world". :crazy:

[Namikaze_Naruto]

There's a rumor that a continuation of Tsukihime is being made or has already been released. Seems like Shiki is still the main character and he's been secretly killing dead Apostles in England, his Mystic eyes of death perception has become so powerful that he needs to wrap his eyes with bandages to cancel the lines. Are there any chance of this rumor being true? It would be nice to play this.

However Typmoon announces that the new Tsukihime is a remake and not a sequel to the story. If so then bummer.

[methaniel]

Ah, I heard that there may be a continuation, but Shiki continuing his fight against the Dead Apostles? Well, I haven't finished Tsukihime, so I don't know about the end, but that would be cool to have Shiki doing this kind of job.

By the way, I'm just wondering, but what's in the bonus cd of Tsukihime? Is it another story to the game or just other little things?

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Ah, I heard that there may be a continuation, but Shiki continuing his fight against the Dead Apostles? Well, I haven't finished Tsukihime, so I don't know about the end, but that would be cool to have Shiki doing this kind of job.

By the way, I'm just wondering, but what's in the bonus cd of Tsukihime? Is it another story to the game or just other little things?

If your interested about the rumor then here.

http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81982

Other forums are talking about it and also mirrormoon is also translating it. (http://mirrormoon.org/projects/tsukihime_2) Not sure if it's really true or not, can someone confirm this?

[Siren-Hill]

If your interested about the rumor then here.

http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81982

Other forums are talking about it and also mirrormoon is also translating it. (http://mirrormoon.org/projects/tsukihime_2) Not sure if it's really true or not, can someone confirm this?As for now, there is no sequel except for Sacchin's ending in Tsukihime, which is Melty Blood. What you refer to was the "Talk" side story. They did joke around the possibility of a sequel. There is no direct sequel for Tsukihime at the moment, take my words for it if you want. They are doing a remake right now, I can't wait for Sacchin route. If there is no Sacchin route, I will summon Assassin and kill Nasu myself.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Ummm...I mean no offense on Sacchins fans but Why are people excited on finally having a Sacchin's route?

[Siren-Hill]

Ummm...I mean no offense on Sacchins fans but Why are people excited on finally having a Sacchin's route?Because she's awesome. She should have been the main heroine since she is the only real vampire in this vampire based game. There is also the boy meets girl theme that is very popular in Japan. Furthermore, her moe level is 10 times Arcueid. Why would you hate Sacchin? She can be a super Sacchin, too, if you give her a chance. There is nothing to hate about Sacchin, not that I can think of. :confused:
Her Reality Marble is very rare and powerful. It would be interesting to see her fight against Roa.
http://games.mosinter.net/images/stories/sacchin.jpg

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Sacchin didn't really make an impact on me as much as Arcueid or Akiha. I guess I'm more into Arcuied's cheerfulness than Sacchins shy personality. And it destroyed my image on her when she tried to make Shiki a vampire because she likes him. Although I do like that's she's from a family of mages and can perform a reality marble: Depletion garden. but I think Roa will still pawn her, even without magic he can still use Tohno SHIKI's non human abilities and don't forget that it was Roa who made her into a vampire in the first place so obedience is a must.

[Siren-Hill]

Sacchin didn't really make an impact on me as much as Arcueid or Akiha. I guess I'm more into Arcuied's cheerfulness than Sacchins shy personality. And it destroyed my image on her when she tried to make Shiki a vampire because she likes him. Although I do like that's she's from a family of mages and can perform a reality marble: Depletion garden.It did creep me out when Arcueid tries to devour your eyes and rips you apart after you cut her up the second time. The point is Sacchin just like Arcueid is being under the influence of vampirism at the moment. She has just gained control of her new body, her thirst and impulse haven't getting under controlled yet. I do not find it creepy. At least, she doesn't want to kill you in any Dead End.

That is only the case if the vampire hasn't become completely independent yet. If the subordinate vampire's will is stronger, the parent vampire may have limited control over them. Arcueid is Roa's parent vampire, but she doesn't have control over her. How do you think the subordinate vampires were able to kill their parent vampires replaced their position as the Dead Apostle if the subordinate vampires couldn't disobey their parent vampires. if they There are a lot about Nasuverse that you haven't read yet. Furthermore, Tohno Con game is not a canon event nor it was written by Nasu if you plan on using it as an argument.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Actually I think that Sacchin is independent and not on Roa's control because of her family's background. I think that having a magic circuit is somehow an advantage on her.

Furthermore, Tohno Con game is not a canon event nor it was written by Nasu if you plan on using it as an argument.

You lost me there.:confused: Who said anything about the Tohno Con game?

[Siren-Hill]

Actually I think that Sacchin is independent and not on Roa's control because of her family's background. I think that having a magic circuit is somehow an advatage on her.As for that, I can't confirm nor deny since it hasn't been mentioned by Nasu yet. It does make sense in a way though. The only thing I notice is that she is as powerful as a Dead Apostle and nearly at the level of Dead Apostle Ancestors. Anyway, her hideout is at an abandon factory. It's kinda sad for a Dead Apostle to live that way. I wonder how did you get to know Sion and Len though. The Sacchin in Melty Blood hasn't kill anyone so you don't have to be freaked out by her since it should be considered a Bad End in Tsukihime for her just like when Akiha becomes crazily jealous over you or when Kohaku traps you under the basement forever.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

As for that, I can't confirm nor deny since it hasn't been mentioned by Nasu yet. It does make sense in a way though. The only thing I notice is that she is as powerful as a Dead Apostle and nearly at the level of Dead Apostle Ancestors. Anyway, her hideout is at an abandon factory. It's kinda sad for a Dead Apostle to live that way. I wonder how did you get to know Sion and Len though. The Sacchin in Melty Blood hasn't kill anyone so you don't have to be freaked out by her since it should be considered a Bad End in Tsukihime for her just like when Akiha becomes crazily jealous over you or when Kohaku traps you under the basement forever.

Mmmm....Yes, because she can use a reality marble that she's considered on the level of dead Apostles but it doesn't mean that she's as strong as them though, she's still a baby vampire compared to Roa or Chaos which live hundreds of years ago. Vampires gets stronger the longer they live.

Sion sleeps in a backalley so they probably met there but as for Len:confused:.

It's very hard to control Sacchins moves in the Melty Blood game though. She's a punch, grab and smash floors kind of fighter.

[Siren-Hill]

Mmmm....Yes, because she can use a reality marble that she's considered on the level of dead Apostles but it doesn't mean that she's as strong as them though, she's still a baby vampire compared to Roa or Chaos which live hundreds of years ago. Vampires gets stronger the longer they live.

Sion sleeps in a backalley so they probably met there but as for Len:confused:.

It's very hard to control Sacchins moves in the Melty Blood game though. She's a punch, grab and smash floors kind of fighter.I was talking about her potential though. I'm specialized in Sacchin, wanna try it out? I'd doubt Sacchin has any plan to become the strongest Dead Apostle so I wouldn't care much about that.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

I'm specialized in Sacchin, wanna try it out?

If your a Sacchins expert then I'll surely loose.:eek:

Question: I installed my MBAC with mirrormoons english patch, will mbcaster work with it? Doesn't it need a 10A patch or something?

[Siren-Hill]

If your a Sacchins expert then I'll surely loose.:eek:

Question: I installed my MBAC with mirrormoons english patch, will mbcaster work with it? Doesn't it need a 10A patch or something?Why? Are you afraid of Sacchin? Isn't it scary, Sacchin? :D
You can play the game online with the English patch. As for Sacchin, I figure out that she's one of the top tiers if you know how to use her.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Why? Are you afraid of Sacchin? Isn't it scary, Sacchin? :D
You can play the game online with the English patch. As for Sacchin, I figure out that she's one of the top tiers if you know how to use her.

Hell I don't know who the top tiers of the game, My style of playing is to randomly punch butttons.:D:lol::lol::lol:

[Siren-Hill]

Hell I don't know who the top tiers of the game, My style of playing is to randomly punch butttons.:D:lol::lol::lol:Can you air combo an opponent?

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Can you air combo an opponent?

Yup! I can with Ciel, Warcueid and Akiha though not a long combo.

[Siren-Hill]

Yup! I can with Ciel, Warcueid and Akiha though not a long combo.Why don't we try to test it out? I'm an amateur as well.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Why don't we try to test it out? I'm an amateur as well.

Sure. umm... how do we do that? Instructions please.

[Siren-Hill]

Sure. umm... how do we do that? Instructions please.Send me your PM with your Email first, it would be easier to do it over chat room.

[Eger-kun]

oh someone here playing Melty Blood >_< let me join the fuss as well , not that I have played the game though

me = random button masher

[Siren-Hill]

oh someone here playing Melty Blood >_< let me join the fuss as well , not that I have played the game though

me = random button masherSend me a PM with your Email. Let's play after I get home from work.

[Eger-kun]

Send me a PM with your Email. Let's play after I get home from work.

me don't wanna go against a experienced player -ne or actually can we really play it then >_< you can go to the shout out thread here if you want to discuss it

[Namikaze_Naruto]

The connection with our game with Siren-Hill is lagged though. Distance is bad. >_<

[Eger-kun]

The connection with our game with Siren-Hill is lagged though.

well I'm not gonna DL/ play Melty Blood unless I've finished Dling the last Kara no Kyoukai and watching the rest here as well

though thanks for the enthusiasm XD

I just want to use Akiha and I'll be in Cloud 9 already

[Namikaze_Naruto]

well I'm not gonna DL/ play Melty Blood unless I've finished Dling the last Kara no Kyoukai and watching the rest here as well

though thanks for the enthusiasm XD

I just want to use Akiha and I'll be in Cloud 9 already

Kara no Kyoukai movies?

When your finish watching it can you rate so I'll know if it's good or not.

So your an Akiha fan huh? Me Arcuied all the way.

[Eger-kun]

Kara no Kyoukai movies?

When your finish watching it can you rate so I'll know if it's good or not.

So your an Akiha fan huh? Me Arcuied all the way.

the movies are excellent and it's the only type moon series that I really loved and well the OST which Kalafina made can be compared to May'n (Macross Frontier Seiyuu)

oh and yeah I do tend to like tsundere and fiery red hairs as well

[methaniel]

Well, since I prefer tsundere girls as well, I'm going for Akiha all the way too >.>
(though I do not care about red hair...clear blue maybe though, but there is none in Tsukihime)
Arcueid is nice on how she's discovering her feeling to Shiki during the story, that's her best point...and somehow I really like her personality in Battle Moon Wars (even if it's not a cannon) when she's playing Phantasmoon after watching Lolicco Cutie (I'm wondering if this serie really exis....Lollico Cutie also appeared in one of the episode of the anime of Kannagi, so it makes me laugh a lot when I realised what it was in BMW)

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Dammit even Kara no Kyoukai have descent wallpapers like FSN. Where are the good Tsukihime wallpapers gone? Anybody willing to create one?

Well, since I prefer tsundere girls as well, I'm going for Akiha all the way too >.>
(though I do not care about red hair...clear blue maybe though, but there is none in Tsukihime)
Arcueid is nice on how she's discovering her feeling to Shiki during the story, that's her best point...and somehow I really like her personality in Battle Moon Wars (even if it's not a cannon) when she's playing Phantasmoon after watching Lolicco Cutie (I'm wondering if this serie really exis....Lollico Cutie also appeared in one of the episode of the anime of Kannagi, so it makes me laugh a lot when I realised what it was in BMW)

Your just tempting me to play Battle Moon Wars aren't you?

[Stifler]

May'n isn't a seiyuu for Macross F. She's just the singer.

Kannagi is written by one of the staff members of Type-Moon, so Lolicco Cutie tends to appear here and there as a joke.

[Eger-kun]

oops my bad Stifler there >_<

/has poor memory for watching too much anime

oh and well glad to hear that Kannagi and Typemoon is somewhat related even though it is slim

and meh I'm gonna practice myself on Melty Blood in hope of at least being par with the members here >_<

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Whatever happened to Kishima Kouma? Is he still alive? I want to see Shiki fight him.

[methaniel]

Oh, thanks for the information Stifler....I should be on the look-out for more Lolicco Cutie then cause this magical girl serie is just hilarious (I think it was the first time I laughed that much at an ending of an anime when it appeared in Kannagi...)

lol Namikaze, I don't even know who's Kouma >.>
Oh well, I'll learn about him once I play more ^^

[Namikaze_Naruto]

lol Namikaze, I don't even know who's Kouma >.>
Oh well, I'll learn about him once I play more ^^

Kishima Kouma is a non human that helped Tohno Makihisa to destroy the entire Nanaya clan. In Kagetsu Tohya ten nights it was said that he was a demon god of destruction and only those who is a master of death can defeat him( Like Shiki's Death Eyes Perception). Even Nanaya Kiri is no match for him.
I wasn't sure if he died or not though.

@methaniel
Is Battle moon wars a good game? coz I'm planning on playing it.

[methaniel]

Thanks for the spiler, but I didn't read it (I want to try to keep everything safe...even if I have some from BMW since it happens after those stories, so they refer to it sometimes >.>

BMW? Yes, it's good, but that is if you like playing T-RPG (I'm a fan of those games so for me it's awesome). The only bad point in it is that you can't level-up as you wish...each new map is decided within the story and you can't wander here and there playing against random ennemies for farming a bit...(on another hand, the challenge is somehow better, it's rare that I play a game without spending hours levelling)

And well, they are using all the aspects of Type-Moon verse in it, so it's good (there is a Grail War happening in Tsukihime's town and some of the Dead Apostle are Masters now >.>)

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Mmmm.....An RPG game huh. I might try it one of this days. Thanks for the info.

[Eveonder Maelstrom]

the movies are excellent and it's the only type moon series that I really loved and well the OST which Kalafina made can be compared to May'n (Macross Frontier Seiyuu)

oh and yeah I do tend to like tsundere and fiery red hairs as well

errr... she's just got a weird personality... she's not really tsundere more like... learning about normal emotions while suppressing desire to kill... kinda reminds me of the white princess

[Namikaze_Naruto]

errr... she's just got a weird personality... she's not really tsundere more like... learning about normal emotions while suppressing desire to kill... kinda reminds me of the white princess

Akiha doesn't really have a desire to kill but due to inversion impulse that she's turning into a non human. Akiha uses twice as much heat because she's also sustaining Shiki's body so she needs to get it from an outside source.
I am confuse as to why she wants to drink blood though. She wasn't bitten by a vampire yet she acts like one. Arcueid often teases her that she's(Akiha) more of a vampire than her(Arcueid) because little sister likes to drink blood.

[Eveonder Maelstrom]

Oh whoops I didn't read the post carefully enough... I was referring to female Shiki... ya Akiha is most definitely a tsundere, lol.

[Siren-Hill]

Akiha doesn't really have a desire to kill but due to inversion impulse that she's turning into a non human. Akiha uses twice as much heat because she's also sustaining Shiki's body so she needs to get it from an outside source.
I am confuse as to why she wants to drink blood though. She wasn't bitten by a vampire yet she acts like one. Arcueid often teases her that she's(Akiha) more of a vampire than her(Arcueid) because little sister likes to drink blood.Because it's the best way she can get heat from other people since she needs twice the heat she normally needs. Besides, she becomes addicted to blood, kinda like a vampire, but she doesn't need blood to survive. That is the difference.

[Eveonder Maelstrom]

But you know, when Shiki goes Nanaya mode, he's strong regardless of injury and other physical limitations, he can run up walls and jump like 7m into the air, lol

[Siren-Hill]

But you know, when Shiki goes Nanaya mode, he's strong regardless of injury and other physical limitations, he can run up walls and jump like 7m into the air, lolBig deal, Curry Senpai can do the same thing without any help. ;)
It's interesting how he will become Shikiller if he actually kills Ciel. He lost his damn mind. According to Nasu, the real ending for Shiki is more of a far side ending. I hope it's either Akiha or Mr Chin, I can't stand Hisui.
Akiha is a real Tsundere. She was cold at first and then she starts to open up after meeting Shiki (follow Akiha's true ending where she admits it herself). Outside, she seems cold, but she's a loving person inside. Akiha doesn't mind being killed by Kohaku but as long as she does not involve Shiki in the matter. As Type Moon expert, I conclude that Akiha suffers Tsundere symptom.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Akiha and Hisui are cute when they blush. It's the opposite for Magical Amber, she rarely shows real expressions but she's kawaii when she shows her sad/tear eyed face...

Question: Why does it says here (http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images//5/56/TYPE-MOON_relations.jpg) that White Len is the creator/Master of Aozaki Aoko?

[Siren-Hill]

Akiha and Hisui are cute when they blush. It's the opposite for Magical Amber, she rarely shows real expressions but she's kawaii when she shows her sad/tear eyed face...

Question: Why does it says here (http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images//5/56/TYPE-MOON_relations.jpg) that White Len is the creator/Master of Aozaki Aoko?It's the other way around. Miss Blue created White Len through Wallachia's remains.

[Eveonder Maelstrom]

Big deal, Curry Senpai can do the same thing without any help. ;)
It's interesting how he will become Shikiller if he actually kills Ciel. He lost his damn mind. According to Nasu, the real ending for Shiki is more of a far side ending. I hope it's either Akiha or Mr Chin, I can't stand Hisui.
Akiha is a real Tsundere. She was cold at first and then she starts to open up after meeting Shiki (follow Akiha's true ending where she admits it herself). Outside, she seems cold, but she's a loving person inside. Akiha doesn't mind being killed by Kohaku but as long as she does not involve Shiki in the matter. As Type Moon expert, I conclude that Akiha suffers Tsundere symptom.

But Curry sempei can't kill Roa... and Roa can't kill her though Shiki can kill both. And yes Akiha most definitely suffers from Tsundere syndrome but I figure most of the girls do to some extent except arcueid who is just plain ignorant.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Big deal, Curry Senpai can do the same thing without any help. ;)
It's interesting how he will become Shikiller if he actually kills Ciel. He lost his damn mind.

You're talking about when he became a real killer if he kills Curry in Ciel's route right? That was actually pretty funny,Ciel keep trying to taunt him so that he'll fight seriously, she thought that she can't be killed but Shiki was afraid of fighting seriously because he can really kill her. I chose to kill her for the fun of it.:eban:

[Siren-Hill]

But Curry sempei can't kill Roa... and Roa can't kill her though Shiki can kill both. And yes Akiha most definitely suffers from Tsundere syndrome but I figure most of the girls do to some extent except arcueid who is just plain ignorant.But Shiki can't fight servants while Ciel can :D Basically, it's rock, paper, scissor. I disagree with that statement, Magical Amber and Ciel are just plain crazy and do not suffer from anything Tsundere syndrome.

After he becomes Shikiller, Shiki forms an army with Kohaku and Arcueid to destroy all the Dead Apostles. Later on, they plan the world domination but fail since Akiha releases an Atomic bomb from the Tohno Mansion and obliterates everyone.

[Twi]

You serious!!
So everyone dies?

I should play this game...

[Namikaze_Naruto]

I don't know if Siren-Hill is serious or just playing around.:eek::lol::lol::lol:

[Eveonder Maelstrom]

Can someone PM me a link for Battle Moon Wars... an English version if possible... I'm getting sick of Japanese... >.> and I'm too lazy to search up all the patches and stuff... I had enough pain and suffering patching the original tsukihime to english =/

[Namikaze_Naruto]

http://www.narutomania.com/gallery/data/1129/1166510603159.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5030/ilkillsantabm3.gif
http://www.narutomania.com/gallery/data/1128/1145422604697.jpg
Here are some nice pics.

[Siren-Hill]

I don't know if Siren-Hill is serious or just playing around.:eek::lol::lol::lol:I'm kidding... or am I? To be or not to be, that is the question.
Yay, Sacchin.

[Namikaze_Naruto]

Here's more.
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[Namikaze_Naruto]

Satsuki's Death lol.
http://karuna.sakura.ne.jp/novasattin3.gif

[Siren-Hill]

Satsuki's Death lol.
G Akiha is very dangerous. I feel bad for her since not everything is getting bigger.