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chezkimo

08-27-2007, 01:39 PM

Yep, hynavian, you're at the top of my x-mas list now!!

I agree. Although some beings make look like they arn't that strong, like luciela not having metalic or silver skin like the other two abyssal ones as well as priscilla, coz lets face it, she looks like a harpie on steroids! but they probably excel in other areas, like priscilla's strength is probably out of this world, and we all saw how fast she can be when she cut off irene's arm even and luciela is prbably has great brute strength as well as well as her many upon many mouths which she can produce...*shudder*

by the way, just curious, does anybody know how riful can be killed by a claymore except alicia?! cause first she has skin that needs atleast a special technique like that 5ths to cut it and even then her form of evasion is so tricky! she can literally split her head into many pieces, easily evading atacks directed to probably the most crucial part of an awakened being, and you can forget trying to cut her in half or something like that seeing as her body's just a mass of ribbons.
...but maybe she isn't that hard to kill seeing as i'm a crazy fan of hers who likes to type too much....

by the way, i don't like how isley had to go and stir everything up and create mass war just to gain the south land. i mean sure luciela wold of probably done the same thing if she had priscilla and tonnes of male awakneed beings as her forces but you could the abyysal one of the west didn't really have the first intention of doing so as she was gavering forces because of isley making his move. isley, i think, is going to get his kumupins (sp?) as all power hungry, ready to start war bad guys do in the end. that's why the bad guys loose, becuase they get too greedy!

By the way, love the idea of jean's attack

Yah I think Isley's form has the most "fierce looking" look and appears to be the most practical. However, we should not look down on the power of the others.

Riful's monstous form appears to be quite harmless but her hair is more than enough to swap people into pieces. And Priscilla...her fingers are extendable and can hit people at a range =/ Though she looks not so "strong" looking like Isley.

hollywoodlou, I like your idea of Jeane's attack. But I think Jeane will be a bit giddy if she has to spin and shoot projectiles out from her wings.

Hynavian

08-27-2007, 05:49 PM

by the way, just curious, does anybody know how riful can be killed by a claymore except alicia?! cause first she has skin that needs atleast a special technique like that 5ths to cut it and even then her form of evasion is so tricky! she can literally split her head into many pieces, easily evading atacks directed to probably the most crucial part of an awakened being, and you can forget trying to cut her in half or something like that seeing as her body's just a mass of ribbons.
...but maybe she isn't that hard to kill seeing as i'm a crazy fan of hers who likes to type too much....

Im also really puzzled over this. Im wondering...how do you kill Riful? She is cool with Rachel slicing her top down and did not seem to suffer much damage from that 2 new claymore attacks. I wonder if Riful will suffer any damage if horizontal slashes were done instead.

Judging from the material of Riful's body, I wonder how Leciala is able to deal any damage to Riful. Maybe eat up Riful tentacles or maybe eat up Riful hair or something?

Isley probably avoided a conflict with Riful as his arrows wouldnt be able to shoot ribbons if you know what I mean. The arrows might pierce her but since her body are ribbon-like, the arrows might roll down or deal little damage. Well...maybe thats why Riful know Isley the best as she's giving him the most headache throughout the years,

hollywoodlou

08-27-2007, 06:18 PM

HYnavian, the only way to kill Riful is HORIZONTALLY CUTTING her...notice everytime the Claymores beat her down is through the VERTICAL cutting technique. That's how her body is, and she demonstrated it by allowing herself to be cut in the VERTICAL MOTION.

Get Alicia to kill her. Remember @ the end of the Witch's Maw arc...one of the ORG was talking to Alicia, and Alicia who was 50% complete said that "I will damage her by 50% but I will die". This was an INCOMPLETE Alicia we're talking about here.

SKATEateer

08-27-2007, 06:41 PM

yeah well the organization seems to be
weak
.. or possibly super super strong
i mean why dont te claymores rebel
against them..

hollywoodlou

08-27-2007, 07:56 PM

chezkimo... if you're looking for a riful sig, here's one for ya.

link deleted due to HL's experiment

chezkimo

08-27-2007, 08:13 PM

yep, you'd have to cut her horizontaly, however, that's only concerning her head, and seeing as she is huge, it'd be har, as we've seen when those two #3 and #5 tried to do so and still they did not succeed because a claymore would have to use her body as a platform and riful could'e just killed them when they used her to jump up there. so, they'd have to be real fast in order to dogde riful's ribbons AND have a technique strong enough to cut her AND cut her horizontily with it. probably all something that alicia can probably do though in her awakened form.

and thanks!! i'm gonna use that sig.

by the way, does anyone know of any claymore from riful's era or awakened beings from her era. she seems to be the only one.

and lol!! hynavian "eat her hair"

i can imagine that, luciela "give me that hair, it's not fair, i want smooth metalic hair like that so i can get a BF!!"
Riful "not my fault you aint got a BF, maybe you should use some conditioner once in a while scruffy cat haired girl!"

hollywoodlou

08-27-2007, 09:55 PM

The only one who could stand directly (or indirectly) on top of Riful would be Miria with her now 'UNLIMITED' phantom technique. She already displayed it anyways. Cutting her down is another thing.

Dragon_fire1995

08-28-2007, 03:34 AM

Jeez, November 2nd is a long time to wait. I can't wait until the new chapter comes out. It will most likely to be worth it, so I guess I can wait. Not to mention new anime episodes of Claymore should come out sooner then that, so they can keep my busy.

On the Riful note, if that strong warrior who can cut through Rifuls tentacles could cut horizontally on her body while floating somehow and have something to do her strong sword , it MIGHT be possible, but that situation is heavily unlikely ( As that person cannot fly, cut and defend herself at the same time), so I guess we don't know how to defeat Riful at the moment.

hollywoodlou

08-28-2007, 05:03 AM

The new (and last) extra Scene will be out by next week so hold on til November.

I don;t mind waiting BTW because even after I read the manga from top to bottom about 20 times already, I;m STILL discovering stuff that I just plain overlook.

I just threw in that horizontal cutting solution because there's no such thing as invincible. If Riful is scared of Priscilla, it tells me she's going to hide her weakness/vulnerabilities until someone smart enough can figure it out.
The clue maybe NOt in the horizontal cutting technique BUT the way she keeps looking for yoma-reading Claymores to "assist" her.

asanta

08-28-2007, 06:05 AM

hey.................... im not sure if its been confirmed.... but is Luciela dead? or did her sis let her go?

hollywoodlou

08-28-2007, 06:50 AM

hey.................... im not sure if its been confirmed.... but is Luciela dead? or did her sis let her go?

Luciela's dead. Raphaela killed her, absorbing her powers in the process...

aarbart

08-28-2007, 09:38 AM

Luciela's dead. Raphaela killed her, absorbing her powers in the process...

Raphaela absorbed the powers of Luciela ??? I hear it for the first time. It's no true !!! No of the Claymores (either AO) can "absorb" the powers of anybody. Raphaela just killed Luciela by breaking her spine (or more possible tore the cord out from Luciela back), when she was exhausted after the battle with Isley. Thats all. No "absorbing" nor something like that.

Hynavian

08-28-2007, 03:03 PM

The new (and last) extra Scene will be out by next week so hold on til November.

Buddy, need to correct you on this. The one coming out soon is the 3rd extra scene and its not the last. There will be a 4th Extra scene that will be out in October before Chapter 74's debut in November.

Typing while you're sleepy aint good ya know :devil:

Oh yeah episode 22 is about to air soon. Can't wait to see Miria's performance in this coming episode.

hollywoodlou

08-28-2007, 04:29 PM

Raphaela absorbed the powers of Luciela ??? I hear it for the first time. It's no true !!! No of the Claymores (either AO) can "absorb" the powers of anybody. Raphaela just killed Luciela by breaking her spine (or more possible tore the cord out from Luciela back), when she was exhausted after the battle with Isley. Thats all. No "absorbing" nor something like that.

I disagree IMO. If Raphaela simply wanted to break L's spine, she would've done it quickly INSTEAD of prolonging the agony to her sister. I think there's a spot at the bottom the spine JUST like the spot between their breasts (NO...not that spot ;)) that is the weak spot for Claymores.
Luci should;ve said "stop breaking my spine" AND what is that crazy aura that seems to explode around those 2 anyways? My interpretation of course...

Buddy, need to correct you on this. The one coming out soon is the 3rd extra scene and its not the last. There will be a 4th Extra scene that will be out in October before Chapter 74's debut in November.

Dude, I was on the set of a movie when I typed this @ the most ungodliest of hours but my brain was still working. There were only 3 extra scenes planned in the 1st place and yes, i was aware that
October comes before November. My source tells me that October was the "dead" month to get the fans ready for November.

Oh yeah episode 22 is about to air soon. Can't wait to see Miria's performance in this coming episode.

I dl'd the raw from my laptop at work @ my hotel BUT havent seen it yet. I'll report later on after I do my "quick" work on the set...

nhy390

08-28-2007, 04:52 PM

Hynavian

08-28-2007, 05:27 PM

Hey Everyone, new to the forum. Have been reading through the bits and pieces you have all been posting. Some interesting thoughts going around!

Hi welcome to the forum :) Come, all my 1MangaMafia members, lets welcome this new guy to the forum. nhy, prepare yourself for more debates and interaction.

I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on what "the Organisations biggest Secret" might be? Miria mentioned it in the beginning of The slashers (part 6) after she tells the story of how she almost awakened. I really hope we get some more intel on the organisation.

I think my fellow club members did cover this topic in the previous thread before. We suspect that Miria knew something about the Alicia-Beth project. Miria was asking Rachel about Alicia's completion in the later chapters. Hence, probably linking it back to what she had discovered earlier 7 years back.

I have a, perhaps, stupid suggestion. If each corner has its own Abyssal One (North, South and West), well then perhaps the organisation is the Abyssal One of the East? Tehy have the claymore's so dont need to build an army of awakened beings. Im sure there is something very sinister to the organisation... whatever it may be!

You're half correct and half wrong on this. The organisation is the abyssal one of the West as long as they have control over Alicia and Beth. Well, you can start your theory on the organisation evils and we'll be happy to entertain you :)

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Dude, I was on the set of a movie when I typed this @ the most ungodliest of hours but my brain was still working. There were only 3 extra scenes planned in the 1st place and yes, i was aware that October comes before November. My source tells me that October was the "dead" month to get the fans ready for November.

Oh buddy nooooooooooo.........my world fell apart when I read this. I was hoping for 2 extra scenes instead. October will be a tough month for the Claymore fans.

...On a separate note....
The Clare-Ophelia banner of yours look great. Now I'm thinking of adding more banners to my signature.

The battle of the banners :eban:

SKATEateer

08-28-2007, 05:31 PM

the organization is really mysterious
they must be gods to control all the claymores
or just wicked smart
hmmm

Hynavian

08-28-2007, 05:40 PM

the organization is really mysterious
they must be gods to control all the claymores
or just wicked smart
hmmm

Yup, they're definitely mysterious and I highly doubt their intentions. Take a look at Rubel. He doesnt seem to age much every since he had Clare under his wings. And take a close look at the other members of the organisation. They either have cloth covering their heads here and there or are ugly looking humans. Frankly, there has to be some handsome male characters in the Claymore world right?

Btw, I saw your signature.......
If someone can teach me how to put pictures up
for my profile or sig I would appreciate it.

First, you go to "User CP", and then to "Edit Signature".
In the box, you type in the below:

url of the site that you have uploaded your picture

hollywoodlou

08-28-2007, 07:03 PM

Hey Everyone, new to the forum. Have been reading through the bits and pieces you have all been posting. Some interesting thoughts going around!

I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on what "the Organisations biggest Secret" might be? Miria mentioned it in the beginning of The slashers (part 6) after she tells the story of how she almost awakened. I really hope we get some more intel on the organisation.

I have a, perhaps, stupid suggestion. If each corner has its own Abyssal One (North, South and West), well then perhaps the organisation is the Abyssal One of the East? Tehy have the claymore's so dont need to build an army of awakened beings. Im sure there is something very sinister to the organisation... whatever it may be!

Welcome nhy390! Just t let u know, Hynavian is the co-president of the Claymore 1Manga Mafia and I'm the other co-prez :thumbup:
Chezkimo is the captain of the forum.

Regarding the biggest secret fo the org...it's EITHER 1)Alicia's "completion" was the ACTUAL secret being the ONLY Claymore to voluntarily become an Abyssal (based on Miria's questioning of Audrey in scene 72 OR....2) the ORG members aren't actually human and they're the origin of all the yomas.
I mean, just look at them...they've got veins growing out of their heads etc.

Oh buddy nooooooooooo.........my world fell apart when I read this. I was hoping for 2 extra scenes instead. October will be a tough month for the Claymore fans.

That wasn't my intention friend.:) Read the manga again in October. Look at this way, even though I've read the manga from top to bottom more than 10 X already, I'm still discovering stuff I have overlooked.

Like...did u know Helen and Priscilla also grow "elf ears" when they go to battle?

...On a separate note....
The Clare-Ophelia banner of yours look great. Now I'm thinking of adding more banners to my signature.

haha knock yourself out dude. :thumbup: Banner battle is on...BTW for everybody here...I just learned that your signature will ONLY SHOW UP ONCE PER PAGE, so don't be surprised it disappeared after more than 1 post per page.

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I just DL'd the RAW but haven't watched it yet...once I get my peeps off my back this morning I'm gonna watch it soon and report later today...

aarbart

08-28-2007, 07:04 PM

the organization is really mysterious
they must be gods to control all the claymores
or just wicked smart
hmmm

No, they're not gods, but surely they are immortal and not get older (like Claymores), and they have some strange deformations in theirs bodies (like Claymores! but it was not shown yet), and they can somehow feel Yoki - they always know were to find the Claymore they take care of.

I think they deal with Yoki somehow. Maybe they are partially Yoma, or maybe they have other Yoki source inside. In the other hand the organisation is not so old (it is said that Teresa is 77th generation of Claymores and one generation takes about 7-10 years to grow). So the Yoma problem on the earth is not so old actually.

Hynavian

08-28-2007, 07:40 PM

That wasn't my intention friend.:) Read the manga again in October. Look at this way, even though I've read the manga from top to bottom more than 10 X already, I'm still discovering stuff I have overlooked.

Like...did u know Helen and Priscilla also grow "elf ears" when they go to battle?

Really? Ok, Im going to re-read from volume 1 again. Maybe I might find some interesting stuff too and we can discuss about it. Hmm are you reading the raw version or the english translated version?

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I just DL'd the RAW but haven't watched it yet...once I get my peeps off my back this morning I'm gonna watch it soon and report later today...

Same. I still have a stack of work not done yet though its already past midnight now. Im anticipating the fight scenes of Miria & gang against Rigardo in epsiode 22 but I wont be seeing my labtop for the next 15 hours after this post. :(

Grrr....*grumbles in a corner*

oh buddy, maybe you can use a combination of kanji and hiragana for the words that you have on Clare-Ophelia's banner. romanji is cool too though.

Oh Im so sleepy :o

chezkimo

08-28-2007, 09:19 PM

"captain of the forum"? well, no problems here, a title i will proudly wear :)

in any case, for quite some time i have thought that the orgi was part yoma aswell as they have deformation and live on forever, unfortunatly seeing as rubel still lives on! damn, i hate that guy!!

we think that they can't be half yoma like the claymore's coz they don't fight and the male claymores awaken too easily, however, seeing as the first generation/class of claymore were males, perhaps they were the founders and made themselves half yoma to begin with but it kinda failed and left them with the side-effects. in which afterwards they mastered the process and recruited other warrriors.

funny how the claymores don't question it by the way?! perhaps the secret will be revealed at the end with a massive plot twister or something?! we don't know, maybe the orgi is actually awakened beings who have gone mad with justice and think they must kill all demons and create controlled peace.

but one thing is for certain!..........................Riful rocks!!

Welcome nhy390! Just t let u know, Hynavian is the co-president of the Claymore 1Manga Mafia and I'm the other co-prez :thumbup:
Chezkimo is the captain of the forum.

Regarding the biggest secret fo the org...it's EITHER 1)Alicia's "completion" was the ACTUAL secret being the ONLY Claymore to voluntarily become an Abyssal (based on Miria's questioning of Audrey in scene 72 OR....2) the ORG members aren't actually human and they're the origin of all the yomas.
I mean, just look at them...they've got veins growing out of their heads etc.

That wasn't my intention friend.:) Read the manga again in October. Look at this way, even though I've read the manga from top to bottom more than 10 X already, I'm still discovering stuff I have overlooked.

Like...did u know Helen and Priscilla also grow "elf ears" when they go to battle?

haha knock yourself out dude. :thumbup: Banner battle is on...BTW for everybody here...I just learned that your signature will ONLY SHOW UP ONCE PER PAGE, so don't be surprised it disappeared after more than 1 post per page.

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I just DL'd the RAW but haven't watched it yet...once I get my peeps off my back this morning I'm gonna watch it soon and report later today...

hollywoodlou

08-29-2007, 02:47 AM

Same. I still have a stack of work not done yet though its already past midnight now. Im anticipating the fight scenes of Miria & gang against Rigardo in epsiode 22 but I wont be seeing my labtop for the next 15 hours after this post.

Grrr....*grumbles in a corner*

oh buddy, maybe you can use a combination of kanji and hiragana for the words that you have on Clare-Ophelia's banner. romanji is cool too though.

Oh Im so sleepy

saw the raws finally...Madhouse screwed the pooch and I dont want to spoil anything here...let's just say there's something about "Jean" you''ll be surprised about.:mad:

Hy...it's midnight there?? I saw your post @ around 10 am here...FROM where do you post?:confused:

Regarding the romanji' angle...my gf told me to put it there alright. Now lay off! well, it was a compromise, I wanted a hentai banner, she wanted a romantic one.:D

"captain of the forum"? well, no problems here, a title i will proudly wear

Glad you like it...Captain. Get the newbies in line!:D

in any case, for quite some time i have thought that the orgi was part yoma aswell as they have deformation and live on forever, unfortunatly seeing as rubel still lives on! damn, i hate that guy!!

we think that they can't be half yoma like the claymore's coz they don't fight and the male claymores awaken too easily, however, seeing as the first generation/class of claymore were males, perhaps they were the founders and made themselves half yoma to begin with but it kinda failed and left them with the side-effects. in which afterwards they mastered the process and recruited other warrriors.

I've has the same premise going on for a couple of weeks as well. They MIGHT be MALE CLAYMORES who were "disciplined" enough NOT to awaken.

Ask youself...how come the Watchers can go through a forest full of wild animals and yomas...WHILE WATCHING THEIR CLAYMORES...yet no harm comes to them?

nhy390

08-29-2007, 11:03 AM

I agree with the possibility the org members are male claymores, perhaps the first generation, where things werent perfected yet, hence why some of them dont look too hot! By sitting at home they dont run the risk of passing their limits. However, I would love to know what happened when the first experiment to make a controlled awakening failed and they had an abyssal one right in the middle of the organisation. Now that would make for an interesting extra scene I think!

However the watchers powers must be limited since they require the talents of claymores such as Galatea to know whats happening at a distance. I think they can alweays find their claymores because they know more or less where they are and when they are close they can sense them. In any case I wish they would throw us another bone!

asanta

08-29-2007, 11:22 AM

i agree..... with their really suss and weird clothing..... which some members covers their face..... their identities dont stop at just being watchers.....

they look intimidating and i think they have the power to back it up...

nhy390

08-29-2007, 11:49 AM

@ asanta

you recon we are going to see any of them in action at any point or do you think they purely use the claymores to do their dirty work?

I would tend to think that if they were badboy enough to kick some *** they would have 1) not been almost annihalated when Luciela awoke in the middle of the org 2) dish out some personal punishment to some of the claymores.... All this speculating is making me crazy! I want some answers!!! I am of the impatient type... :D

Wicked banner by the way!

asanta

08-29-2007, 02:11 PM

hmmmm i agree with your first point... yes... not only when Luciela attacked, but if they were that powerful, they wouldnt have needed to create Alicia....... hmmm......

but something is suss......

as for answers... im sure they'll be revealed but dont expect too soon. coz i think Raki's the no.1 Priority, since he hasnt made an appearance since the & year gap.

darthalvarez

08-29-2007, 03:53 PM

if the org is the origin of the yoma...then they control the world...

why dont claymore's rebel? cause the org would send other claymores to gang up on them and kill them. the # 1 and 2 seem to be shrouded in mystery. what will happen if beth looses concentration? there will be a 4 abysmal one stronger than the rest as well as outright stupid (thats what the org gets for trying to make a more...pliable and obedient claymore...

hollywoodlou

08-29-2007, 06:06 PM

That's IF the ORg actually produces yomas...we don't know where yomas comes from in the 1st place and is just hypothetical.

Claymores don't rebel...UNTIL Clare and Miria and Teresa etc turned the tide of being obedient Claymores to authority skeptics. Let the other Claymores go after them, I like the drama of the hunt such as Miata "hunting" for Galatea et al...instead of another Raki angle.

On Beth and Alicia, there's not much secrecy to what those 2 can do. And if you re-read the end of the Witch's MAw arc, one of the oRG was ACTUALLY TALKING to Alicia, and Alicia spoke "honestly" about how to handle Riful if those 2 get it on.
I am more interested about Beth's fighting capabilities instead of being Alicia's soul "cup holder".

darthalvarez

08-29-2007, 06:17 PM

hollywoodlou

08-29-2007, 06:28 PM

they can speak to an extent i suppose but they only have one purpose so they org didnt allow them to learn all that much. and beth is the number 2 so she must be pretty strong you know.

the reason i want to know what is going on with Riku is because we havent seen him in 7 years so i want to see how much he has grown and developed as well as to see what he has done to complish his goal of being powerful enough to protect Claire.

Do you think that there could be any romance between Clair and Riku?

Obviously Kid Blunder has grown and EVEN if he becomes the greatest swordsman on earth, he'll pale in comparison with the weakest # 47 Claymore anyways.

Romance between those 2? Personally, NO. But if Yagi-sensei wrote the story that older' Clare planted her tongue on pre-adult Raki, anything's possible.

darthalvarez

08-29-2007, 06:43 PM

Well, that is why i said that i wanted to see how far he has gone in his endevour to becoming strong enough to protect claire. he knows full well how strong a claymore can be. and lets not forget who his master is. maybe he became a claymore.

and i think that Claire loves him...which way? i dont know but she has been lookin for him for 7 years. its not due to the promise she made cause if she didnt love him, she wouldnt have made the promise in the first place. and i dont think that Claire is THAT much older than Riku. So can i see them in a romantic way? yea

nhy390

08-29-2007, 06:46 PM

I dont know if there will be romance... I dont think so. To start with she has a deformed body so who knows what she can even do with that. I hope that it wont turn into a romantic thread with those 2 and since the show has been lacking that so far I dont see why it would happen all of a sudden.

As far as Raki is concerned... I don't know what to think... he must know that his 2 new buddies are monsters! I quite like the idea that he might have become a claymore, but I would be quite unhappy if he turns out to be the guy who saves the day! I dont particularly like him as a character. It would be good to see him become at least slightly useful, even if it is just to undertake reconissance on the org.

So many possiblities for the story to continue, so I wonder what will come next. I would quite like to know what happened to Galatea as she was a good character I thought.

As far as Beth and Alicia: I wonder how long it will take for the Yoma, ABs and AOs to find out that they just need to take out Beth to solve their problem! I would quite like for that to happen! Stir things up and remove the orgs super weapon and their choke-hold on everyone.

darthalvarez

08-29-2007, 06:51 PM

Raki never cared how deformed Claire was. and maybe they cant do that...but maybe they can. but i really dont see what is so wrong about there being a romantic relationship between the two. but then...priscilla claimed him so who knows what she has done to him...*cough*...but Claire kisses him that means something...

the very reason that Raki is training is so that he wont be a useless character. i like him though, and i dont think that its sooo bad if he saves the day. i think that the story will end with Claire so if he saves a day....so what if he does?

and yea, the org's new abysmal killer has that fatal weakness. she has to depend on the number two to keep her sane. so all you have to do is break the concentration of Beth and there goes another abysmal one

nhy390

08-29-2007, 06:57 PM

Yes, I must agree with you on a few things. I guess it would be nice if they ended up together, but I just think it is a little cliche if he saves the day. Being all useless and the swearing to protect her and then save the day.... but thats just my oppinion. I guess he isnt that bad, and making him a more important character would certainly make him more bearable.

As for thr love angel: I dont think that they will end up as an obvious romantic relationship, but by being together. They certainly emotionally and psychologically need eachother!

As for Beth and Alicia, it would be good to see a good fight with them rather than just pure annihalation of Awakened Beings. A battle with Riful or Isley would be cool! Even having a go at Priscilla would be cool!

hagger

08-29-2007, 07:30 PM

I don't think we'll be seeing Priscilla fighting until the build up to Claire's fight with her, as it would help to keep some mystery in the series. Im also agreeing with the hope that Raki n Claire will be romantic, but I have a more realistic outlook too: death of one or the other. Considering the dark theme of the manga so far, death of someone close to the main character, like many times before, should be expected. Since Claire is the main character of the series, I wouldnt be suprised if Raki dies, giving her a slightly new outlook on life. Alternatively, Claire may give her life at the end of the series in saving Raki, or maybe destroying the Org.
What does everyone else think about whether Claire will survive?

Hynavian

08-29-2007, 07:42 PM

Romance between those 2? Personally, NO. But if Yagi-sensei wrote the story that older' Clare planted her tongue on pre-adult Raki, anything's possible.

Yoo buddy i have watched episode 22. Great one! I cant wait for Jeane to appear in ep 23. (Hope she dont die, hope she dont die, hope she dont die *hynavian chanting in the room)

I think maybe there might be some romance going on between Clare and Raki judging from how the anime goes. And if Yagi-sensei says "cool you can put this in the anime", does it mean he's also thinking along that line?

PS: Buddy Im staying in the Asia region. GM+8 or 9 I think.

Raki never cared how deformed Claire was. and maybe they cant do that...but maybe they can. but i really dont see what is so wrong about there being a romantic relationship between the two. but then...priscilla claimed him so who knows what she has done to him...*cough*...but Claire kisses him that means something...

I remembered Raki saying something like Clare is quite pretty or more pretty than the other girls in town at the start of the manga. Raki wouldnt think that Clare is deformed anyway as long as he loves her ya. And I dont think Yagi-sensei will add in the sex element into this manga.

I think the only thing that Pris is going to do to Raki is to eat him up (for breakfast or lunch).

hollywoodlou

08-29-2007, 08:44 PM

Yoo buddy i have watched episode 22. Great one! I cant wait for Jeane to appear in ep 23. (Hope she dont die, hope she dont die, hope she dont die *hynavian chanting in the room)

I think maybe there might be some romance going on between Clare and Raki judging from how the anime goes. And if Yagi-sensei says "cool you can put this in the anime", does it mean he's also thinking along that line?

PS: Buddy Im staying in the Asia region. GM+8 or 9 I think.

What's up co-prez? Jean has to die...that's the way it is. Who do u think has to be 'sacrificed' in order for Clare to go back to Claymore form?.....I vote Raki.;)

Look...if Yag-sensei can show some tit-sucking from Miata, this romantic angle is NOT acceptable BUt understandable. Raki and Clare's relationship is vague at this point...it's either an older sister/younger brother realtionship OR the Oedipus Rex syndrome.

Asia?

I don't think we'll be seeing Priscilla fighting until the build up to Claire's fight with her, as it would help to keep some mystery in the series. Im also agreeing with the hope that Raki n Claire will be romantic, but I have a more realistic outlook too: death of one or the other. Considering the dark theme of the manga so far, death of someone close to the main character, like many times before, should be expected. Since Claire is the main character of the series, I wouldnt be suprised if Raki dies, giving her a slightly new outlook on life. Alternatively, Claire may give her life at the end of the series in saving Raki, or maybe destroying the Org.
What does everyone else think about whether Claire will survive?

Death to Raki would be nice...it is a dark tragic story and NOT Romeo and Juliet. Everyone around Clare dies anyways, so if the anime kills of Raki, they are adhering to the manga faithful.

On Clare surviving, yes it should happen. IF not, we are looking at season 2 which is around 5 years from now and NO anime which has a loose ending can carry itself for that long a stretch of wait for the anime viewers.

As for thr love angel: I dont think that they will end up as an obvious romantic relationship, but by being together. They certainly emotionally and psychologically need eachother!

You could say that...they're both screwed up people, each a victim of tragic circumstances in their lifetime.

BUt then again, so's Miria, Deneve, Ophelia (judging from their backgrounds) ...so if they need each other is moot. They are just confused and have no clue if they REALLY need each other.

chezkimo

08-29-2007, 08:55 PM

Glad to see that this thread is still going because a forum hasn't been created for claymore and so we need to keep it strong or it will fade away like all the other ones that were forgotten about and are on the last 10 pages of the "other manga" section.

In any case, there are many things that arn't explained in claymore. i guess it was the author's idea that seeing as it is like another world, not everything has to be explained if it is the norm.

First of Alicia and Beth, yes alicia said that hse'd be able to take riful down a peg when she was only half complete herslef, however, remember riful's words "awkaening on purpose gives you more power than awakening by accident". well, not word for word but that is what she said, so it's no surprise that she can fight on par with the abyssal ones. but yeah, if riful ever finds out about beth being the greatest weakness to the dual i'm sure she'd wait and find a chance to kill her off, riful being tricky that way. which brings me to something i'll speak of later.

for now, raki and clare, nope, i don't think romance is in order. thier love is the kind of love were you love someone but you're not thier lover if you know what i mean and that won't change. and i keep forgetting that seve years have past seeing as miria and gang don't age. raki would be all grown up!! i wanna see what he looks like. and i wanna know what galatea's power is like after seven years, has it improved like clare's?! coz she could know be the comparison of a number 2, or a weaker version of a #1. and maybe after seven years of priscilla and isley not aging a DAY maybe raki will become just a tad suspecious.

and yeah, that's why i like claymore, you don't know what's going to happen and the author really likes to twist things sometimes.

now, back to what i was going to discuss after talking about alicia and tiful. there's definatly a connection. riful knows all about alicia being able to awaken and still be controlled in her targets and now we see that riful, after seven years of staying in her "abyss" is looking for claymore's with great yoki sensing/controlling abilities! and not's let forget she has had seven years to think of a plan here. i just know there's a link here that's going to lead upto the future plot here, but i can't guess it. and then there's the whole thing about claymore awakening on purpose having more power than awakening by accident. there's definalty something.

what do you think?!

and lets rate the abyssal ones in terms of power, strength, skills, abilities and any other relvant things. also, include alicia and luciela has abyssal ones.

1. Riful (yh you predicted i would)
2. isley
3. alicia
4. luciela

(i know it's hard to order them coz they seem to all be as powerful as each other but one has to be more powerful than the other in a life and death throw down)

hollywoodlou

08-29-2007, 09:08 PM

Captain, Dont worry about the strength of the Claymore forum...I;ve been reading the manga since 2005 and am in it for the long haul. BUT once the anime ends, expect a decrease in posts from our fairweather friends, which is normal.

You are correct on Alicia and Beth. Riful will strike @ Beth because this is the only weakness I know of...UNLESS Riful actually doesn't know WTH Beth is standing there for while her sister beats Riful senseless.
Riful is intelligent, but will she be able to know this while fighting?

Clare and Raki relationship,,,is indeed a complex one. Unless Clare plants ANOTHER tongue on "grown up" Raki, then it becomes clearer.:lol:

Isley is still the man to beat. Riful follows with her quick initiative in battle but Isley's size alone is something else.
Priscilla...YTH is Riful scared of her? is there something WE the readers, don;t know aside from the Teresa massacre?

chezkimo

08-29-2007, 09:18 PM

Thanks for the encouragement. and as captain who ever leave this forum and stops posting will walk the plank!!

and yeah, thing about riful, in situations like those, she's either really clever and has figured it out 5 hours before hand or is really ditsy and dose not know what's going on!

as for isley, indeed he is strong but i question his power. it seems like more brute strength than it those actual power, as in yoki. i still havn't figured out why he hasn't attacked riful seeing as he has priscilla and all.

and perhaps priscilla has become stronger?! either that or riful is as scared of priscilla's psycho mental state as i am!! she could kill someone and be like "oh, what happened?! half your body's missing. ohwell, time to move on"

hollywoodlou

08-29-2007, 09:29 PM

You'd better get them in line!. Hy and I didn't appoint u Captain of the forum because of your Riful avatar, ya know?:D

When Riful saw Pris, there are 2 things that came to my mind. 1) Pris INTERFERED in the battle with Luciela, which Riful later explained in scene 72 and 2)...
Riful sensed a bigger power in that small body of Priscilla and aknowledged that anything bigger than an Abyssal stands a BETTER chance of killing her.
That means Clare is sh*t out luck being a normal Claymore. The only chance Clare has to take Pris' head is to become an Abyssal HERSELF.
Good luck on that.

darthalvarez

08-29-2007, 10:21 PM

we then go back to wondering if they will find a way to awaken without actually becoming yoma...minded.

and i do think that there can be a chance for a lil something between Claire and Riku and yea the mangaka wouldnt put ecchiness into it. but if there is romance, one might die and if its Riku Claire, who has hung to the hope of finding Riku for 7 years will break down and become an abysmal. i guess im a fan of the R., C. pairing

hollywoodlou

08-29-2007, 11:53 PM

The Slashers' are already HALF AWAKENED, but one slip like Clare @ Pieta and they can never return normally.

That's where the series is going...Clare CANNOT BEAT PRIS in her Claymore form. She has to sharpen her mental abilities and not allow the yoma in her to turn her into a monster.

darthalvarez

08-29-2007, 11:56 PM

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 12:00 AM

thats what im saying, they are half awakened but they are not fully awakened and you say what nearly happened when Claire fully awoke her limbs. the ultimate goal for the 7 claymore is to find a way to awaken without losing themselves. then they would be able to challenge even priscilla

the Slashers's yes...but not the other 3 "deadweights". Cynthia, hmmm maybe, she's # 14. Tabatha was # 31. Yuma is #40. WTh was Yagi-sensei thinking when he allowed those 3 to live AND NOT Flora, Veronica and Undine?

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 12:02 AM

well i understand what you mean perfectly but also remember that all claymores have their special ability, maybe that has some play here?

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 12:35 AM

well i understand what you mean perfectly but also remember that all claymores have their special ability, maybe that has some play here?

Unfortunately yes...the "upside" of every character in a story: from weak to strong, just like Clare. They just don;t interest me...well, maybe Cynthia, she's cute.;)

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 12:41 AM

lol, i was pointing that out
it does intregue me however, that these women out of 24 survived. even though it was luck, they did survive. Now what will they do? how will they impact the world?

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 12:50 AM

lol, i was pointing that out
it does intregue me however, that these women out of 24 survived. even though it was luck, they did survive. Now what will they do? how will they impact the world?

How will they "impact the world?" Easy. Kill Raki so Clare will shut up....just kidding.

The next step for the 7 is to gain more allies in their "vengeance tour" and train some more. I'm not sure who their targets are first: is it the ORg OR Isley? I'd target Isley first and the Abyssal...the ORG isn't that difficult to kick around afterwards.

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 01:02 AM

i think that they would go after Isley but dont underestimate the org, just the fact that there are more of them would make it hard on them.

and they would have to train under an abysmal one to get stronger...they all have limits as to how strong they can get anyway

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 01:27 AM

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 01:29 AM

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 01:57 AM

well...actually they can cause riful hasnt been able to recruit anyone so if they offered themselves i dont think she might refuse but she'd still be mad at them

and either way, they do need to find a way to get stronger...which means that they should go to the org headquarters

Like a devil's agreement, who can you trust in such an agreement? Riful is out of the question after what happened.

Why are they going to the org? You do know they are in hiding right?

who?what?where?

08-30-2007, 01:59 AM

umm.. my common sense tells me that the organization would not be to happy to find out that the seven of them survived, so don't be expecting the organization to welcome them with open arms :P

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 01:59 AM

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 02:11 AM

its EXACTLY my point. the org wouldnt think that they would do that, they can hide their energy so u wouldnt even notice them, and that place is shrouded in mystery, a place that can give them and us answers

OH...SNEAK IN? Gotcha!:rolleyes: I thought ASK the ORg for help...Ok we get it now. That could work.

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 02:27 AM

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 02:53 AM

to ask the org would be plain stupid but then i didnt explain myself at first.

but they should go there, cause that place holds answers - we hope

as in where the yoma come from, who the org really are, what there agenda is, etc. so many questions none answered and then we wouldnt assume that they would be all answered

You know in chapter 62 and chapter 70, the ORG already announced they have new "eyes" that would replace Galatea...I think the name was Lune. They'd better hide their insignias and change their do's to get in though. Masking their yokis to perfect ZERO is a massive undertaking.

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 03:07 AM

dude, they achieved that during those 7 years of isolation. they thing would be...to get in, i dont think that they would be very familiar in getting around there. we know nothing about it. dont you wonder why the org headquarters have never been attacked? there has to be a reason

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 03:11 AM

The ORg base is not difficult to penetrate judging by the rock formations. It's WHERE to go, and maybe Miria knows. The ORG HQ WAS ATTACKED by the Awakened Beings from the north and stopped by Alicia-Beth remember, right outside the limits.
if Alicia-Beth are the guard dogs, it'll be interesting.

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 03:18 AM

hmm, technically then it hasnt been attacked ;)

but yea...hmm...they must have things like traps and stuff, but if they were to infultrate, like you say, they wouldnt know where to go. i doubt that the org allowed them to wander carelessly. but what to look for first?

if alicia awakens, and goes against the group, the group wouldnt make it, they arent strong enough

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 03:24 AM

if I infiltrated the ORG...I'm gonna drill a peephole in the Claymore shower rooms. Damn, they're freakin hot.

Ok, ...had to get that in ya know.;)

...They have to "nab" one of the watchers and threaten the bastard, if not, they must have a map or a plan if they're risking their lives for that info.

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 03:28 AM

LOL......HAHAHA....becareful cause u dont wanna start peekin at the pre-teen girls now and they might just catch u and i dont wanna know what would happen if they did *shudder*

they probably wouldnt have a map, too convenient u kno. maybe come up with a plan to draw the attention of as many claymore's away. such as like the strongest and fastest spread out and release their energy - close to the HQ and then hide the energy again, move around and do it again, making them come at them, every time pulling father away. by that time a few could sneak in and look around

chezkimo

08-30-2007, 03:39 AM

woah, you guys have been busy while i was sleeping!! lol. like 12 posts!

anywho, i don't know what thier target is but i do know that thier first target won't be the org, unless miria suddenly becomes leader again seeing as she would probably want to find out all the secrets most out of everybody. but seeing as everybody's following clare now we know where that's gonna lead em, down to the south to isley and raki. after all, they said they wanted revenge for the 24 fallen claymores that perished 7 years ago. i hate the org for doing that, alicia would of been ready by the time those awekened beings got there, there was no need!!

and hollywoodlou, *shakes head* tsk tsk tsk you don't need to drill a peep whole. just use clare's and galatea's yoki sensing abilities, with that you could sill practicly see what thier doing WITHOUT drilling, honestly have some sense!

but you know the org, that kinda ruined it for me about alicia and beth being #1 & #2, i was looking foward to seeing who they were and what thier abilities were and it had to be some awakening twins. that ruined it for me. coz i mean, #5 you have raphaela who was imensly strong for her pos., then #4 ophielia and the cool #3 galatea who had all those yoki specialities, it kept on getting more anmd more interesting and then you just got twins who can awaken becuase of thier soul link, boring.

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 03:41 AM

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 04:01 AM

i can tell...but...

but yea, all we have to now is wait for november to come by...too far away...

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 04:18 AM

Dont worry kiddo. Next week, they'll release the last extra Scene and hopefully it wont suck like the last one.

I love Miria to death (& she's hot), but that story shouldn't been told.

Hynavian

08-30-2007, 04:20 AM

I wasn't thinking about the pre-teens...just the ones who have been given their insignias and ready to graduate. I'm no sicko:thumbup:
man, I would love to be a Watcher...

"ummm, Galatea, your uniform is torn again. take your clothes off and replace it right now." Yes, right now. I;m your watcher for crying out loud...". Of course, I would pick a wide open field so they wouldn't hide.
At least Clare wasn;t bashful in front of Rubel.;)
*****

Nooooooooooooo.................................com e to think about it Galatea's watcher might have asked Galatea to take off her clothes before too. That lucky b*astard!
But, on another note, Galatea is strong enough to not get bashed up that much. Further with her egoistic personality, she might not be that obedient to her watcher. She sounded like an equal to her watcher when he called for her to spy on the slayers. (from the way she spoke and behaved)

And I was shocked that I had to read through 3 pages before I can post a reply. Yeah, keep the Claymore spirit going ya.

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 04:28 AM

Nooooooooooooo.................................com e to think about it Galatea's watcher might have asked Galatea to take off her clothes before too. That lucky b*astard!
But, on another note, Galatea is strong enough to not get bashed up that much. Further with her egoistic personality, she might not be that obedient to her watcher. She sounded like an equal to her watcher when he called for her to spy on the slayers. (from the way she spoke and behaved)

And I was shocked that I had to read through 3 pages before I can post a reply. Yeah, keep the Claymore spirit going ya.

Welcome Mr president...what page exactly did Ermita ask that question? Im ummmm going to research if you're correct.

You know what? Chezkimo said the same thing about the length between me and darthalvarez just winging it on this forum.

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 04:32 AM

yea, its nice sharing some ideas....

and since no one else is around and all

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 04:36 AM

Well, I;ve got 3 windows open, 2 for work and 1 for 1M..Im a multitasker.

As a DA said, there's no one around so we just exhanged ideas...I didn't even notice we're approaching 4 pages just by the 2 of us conversing...

Hynavian

08-30-2007, 04:38 AM

Welcome Mr president...what page exactly did Ermita ask that question? Im ummmm going to research if you're correct.

You know what? Chezkimo said the same thing about the length between me and darthalvarez just winging it on this forum.

Ah the captain's comments are not that important. Its a very important matter if I mentioned it instead. More credit to me!!!

Oh...No.... I was erm fantasizing the part where Ermita asked Galatea to take off her clothes. If Rubel can ask Clare to do so, I don't see why Ermita could not. But again, I think Ermita treated Galatea like an equal and would not have asked her to do something like "Galatea take off your clothes".

Touching on the ecchi topic, have you all marvelled at the watchers perseverance? They're surrounded by babes (come on, Flora, Teresa, Clare, Cynthia, Galatea, etc all fit this category) but didnt lay their hands or any part of their bodies on them.

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 04:43 AM

lol, did we really talk that much?

we can keep going till next week then we will have a fresh topic

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 04:46 AM

Ah the captain's comments are not that important. Its a very important matter if I mentioned it instead. More credit to me!!!

Oh...No.... I was erm fantasizing the part where Ermita asked Galatea to take off her clothes. If Rubel can ask Clare to do so, I don't see why Ermita could not. But again, I think Ermita treated Galatea like an equal and would not have asked her to do something like "Galatea take off your clothes".

Touching on the ecchi topic, have you all marvelled at the watchers perseverance? They're surrounded by babes (come on, Flora, Teresa, Clare, Cynthia, Galatea, etc all fit this category) but didnt lay their hands or any part of their bodies on them.

That proves it! NO MALE can actually NOT get any dirty thoughts about their Claymores. They're definitely NOT human!:lol:

I think the reason why Rubel wears those shades is to hide his eyes from staring at Clare's hot bod.

Hynavian

08-30-2007, 04:52 AM

lol, did we really talk that much?

we can keep going till next week then we will have a fresh topic
Yeah no problem with me on that. Keeps me occupied :)

That proves it! NO MALE can actually NOT get any dirty thoughts about their Claymores. They're definitely NOT human!:lol:

I think the reason why Rubel wears those shades is to hide his eyes from staring at Clare's hot bod.

To add on, Ermita wrapped himself to an extent of a mummy-look-alike (with some many clothes) because he wouldnt be able to hold himself back if he's dressed lightly. He'll start stripping infront of Galatea.

PS: I think the babes would turn violent if the handlers "touched" them. Imagine this:

*Handler laid a hand on Flora's boobs*

*Woosp*Woosp*Woosp*

*Handler disapppeared. It appeared that Flora had performed a full Wind-Cutter attack and the handler was cut into tiny bits.

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 04:56 AM

well...thats a valid argument...

but...they'd have to be pliable servants...that allow you to do as u please and there arent many of those...

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 04:59 AM

Yeah no problem with me on that. Keeps me occupied :)

To add on, Ermita wrapped himself to an extent of a mummy-look-alike (with some many clothes) because he wouldnt be able to hold himself back if he's dressed lightly. He'll start stripping infront of Galatea.

PS: I think the babes would turn violent if the handlers "touched" them. Imagine this:

*Handler laid a hand on Flora's boobs*

*Woosp*Woosp*Woosp*

*Handler disapppeared. It appeared that Flora had performed a full Wind-Cutter attack and the handler was cut into tiny bits.

I think there's a code against destroying their watchers. If this was the case, Teresa could have killed her watcher at the execution site.
If I was Ophelia's watcher, i would be scared sh*tless of this crazy b*tch.

Ermita's the most ridiculous looking watcher, that ninja get up is hilarious.

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 05:09 AM

well...they must have some sort of needs since they done seem to be interested in the women o_o

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 05:17 AM

Would u care to elaborate what those needs are DA?:o

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 05:46 AM

well...what the hell do they like?

what are they? and how do they travel around so fast?

they dont get turned on by women...

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 05:55 AM

weird...they're not turned on by chicks. It must be that "hole" between their breasts that turns them off then.

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 06:25 AM

there has to be more than that man...

and oh this is so boring, im waiting for so many manga chapter releases

Mr.Vam

08-30-2007, 07:07 AM

But when claymore2 release ????

nhy390

08-30-2007, 10:09 AM

Jesus guys! Being in different time zones really sucks! I come to work and am completely behind on whats happening on the forum. You are a bunch of busy bees! No complaints though, good to have a forum where you dont have to wait 3 days to get a 2 line comment! Where in the World are you guys and where are you from if you don't mind me asking?

Right, on to Claymore:

Now someone asked the question (about 10 pages ago) about whether Raki or Clare would survive. I agree in that I wouldnt be surprised if one of them died. I dont want to say I have a preference for either dying, but I think it would be kind of fitting to put Clare to rest at the end with her sacrificing herself for Raki. Maybe even have him cut her head off because she has gone too far? Fittingly tragic, no?

Now, if Riful has a plan for has a plan for Alicia and trying to find a Claymore that can read yogi really well... I dont think she would be able to kill of Beth and replace the controlling individual. It was stated that it only worked because they were indentical twins and they had to work on it for ages to keep it under control. I assume that if Alicia was to fully awaken then she would be more concious and more self-aware and able to look after her self and her own interests. However, Riful is planning something, I agree, but I think it has something to do with Isley. I have the feeling those 2 don't like eachother very much. Maybe they have some history? I can't remember if any of that was explained, I have only read the manga once so far, and quite recently (I hang my head and admit that I got into the manga through the anime, which i think kicks serious arse!). However, I am not sure Riul (though she is cool, powerful, and clever) could beat Isley, I think he is just too strong. And lets not forget that he has also got Priscila!

Now for what The 7 are going to do next, I dont think they are going to go on an Awakened Being hunt. That doesnt seem to be what they are after. I think they are mainly concerned with finding Raki and digging up more info on the Org. I think ultimately their major grudge is with them. However, I hope they dont take a similar stance to that of Gundam Seed where they are just happy to stand in the middle and fight everyone. As for an all out assult or infiltration of the org I think that is out of the question. It is way too dangerous. They have too many ennemies and what would they stand to gain? Gather more allies? I dont know, but I would like them to team up with Galatea, that would be very cool. I wouldnt like the idea of them starting to build an army, and I dont think they would manage to persuade enough Claymores to join them either. Lets face it, those that are unhappy with the org or step out of line get sent on a suicide mission! That only leaves the obedient ones! And, ultimately the org has more resources and man (woman?) power than the 7... THe author/creator has definetly got one of the best mangas inb a while with everyone guessing!

Oh well, went on for ages there! Sorry, hope you are not all asleep now!

@ Mr. Vam: what do you mean with Claymore 2? as in a second season of the anime? I dont think one is planned, we can only hope! City of Eternal Rain? Sounds like Aberdeen!

chezkimo

08-30-2007, 11:24 AM

Yep, i have to agree with everything (and i do mean everything) you said there nhy390. except isley part, the difference between isley and riful is that riful is more tricky, (she can split her head into ribbons!), where as isley is more brutally stronger no doubt, but i think all in all they are on the same level, and thier fight would probably go nowhere she has riful would be dogding all of isley's missles and isley would just be gaurding himself again riful's ribbons. so i guess priscilla is the only thing that unbalances the abyssal ones. riful needs to get powerful allies and fast if she expects to live through the next battle.

and you said something about maybe they have history, this is very intruiging, cause i'm sure she said one time tchh, (something to do with "this sucks") and saying "he's really fallen in love with her now hasn't he" or something like that. hmmmmmmmmm, love history between the two abyssal ones?! would be interesting. maybe isley was like "i don't need you anymore riful, i have priscilla".

but anyways, i really don't see why the abyssal ones don't team up and go against the org, then the org would be in deep doo-doo. it's like i said once, bad guys just get too greedy.

and nope, you can tell that there's not going to be a series 2 claymore anime series becuase of they way they totally changed the story line! oh and if raki dies in the end, do you think he might try and become a claymore just like clare and it'd be like time repeating itself all over again. i mean, i think raki would force himself not to awaken and he'd definatly wouldn't awaken coz he won't be as sexually active as the past male claymores, clare being his only love and all.

LOL. makes me laugh whenever i think of how they described it. "they awakened because it was like having an orgasm". says so much about us men.

nhy390

08-30-2007, 12:19 PM

chezkimo, lol, your last paragraph made me laugh!!! It is true, and certainly would explain why men had a harder time holding back :D

I would also tend to agree with what you say about Raki becoming a claymore. I have always thought that he would make a good male claymore due to his dedication and promise to Clare. However, him becoming a claymore would definetly limit the romantic relationship between himself and Clare, no?

I think you are right about the abyssal ones not ganging up due to them being too gready! Too much ego I would think, similar with the top 5 claymores. They dont really like each other because they all think they are better than each other and take any chance to fight eachother. just see the hunting party sent for Theresa's head! they were going to fight each other in the middle of a yoma fight!!!

I dont know if Riful and Isley's past relationship was romantic, maybe more rival, but I think there might be something there. Another pretext for rereading the manga :) Maybe I should invest in it and buy all the books! I certainly would get my value for money considering how many time I would read it!

Looking forwards to watching Claymore 22! Havent found it subed online yet. Internet at home is down so no torrents :( I must admit that I am not fuzzed about whether or not it is different from the manga as it is coming to an end anyway. I have thoroughly enjoyed it and will probably watch it a few time... except it they REALLY mess it up!

Hynavian

08-30-2007, 01:50 PM

Oh as the co-president of the 1MangaMafia Claymore Thread, Im glad that everything is so lively in this forums. And hence, alas, its time to expand our powerful 1MangaMafia Claymore Clan (1MMCM)

1MMCC
Leaders: Hollywoodlou & Hynavian
Captain: chezkimo (to emphasize the importance of a captain)

And now the important message. We're looking for cute mambers, must be sexy enough to join our organisation. After some scouting, the below few are totally sexy dudes. hence, wanna join us?

nhy390
asanta
darthalvarez

Hynavian

08-30-2007, 01:59 PM

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 03:00 PM

looking for sexy dudes?

um...sure...

and im GMT -4 i think -> EST

and i havent seen the anime :( only snippets of it

Hynavian

08-30-2007, 03:52 PM

Yep, i have to agree with everything (and i do mean everything) you said there nhy390. except isley part, the difference between isley and riful is that riful is more tricky, (she can split her head into ribbons!), where as isley is more brutally stronger no doubt, but i think all in all they are on the same level, and thier fight would probably go nowhere she has riful would be dogding all of isley's missles and isley would just be gaurding himself again riful's ribbons. so i guess priscilla is the only thing that unbalances the abyssal ones. riful needs to get powerful allies and fast if she expects to live through the next battle.

Yup I totally agree with you Captain. Riful is tricky in her attacks while Isley is more upfront (as seen from the battle with Luciela). Need to correct you on something though. It seems like Isley has a skill where his arrows will auto-targey an enemy (like some tornadoes). Hence I think they will most prolly hit Riful if he sends his arrows flying after her. But then Riful have many ribbons so.....

but anyways, i really don't see why the abyssal ones don't team up and go against the org, then the org would be in deep doo-doo. it's like i said once, bad guys just get too greedy.
I think it wont benefit them if they all teamed up to destroy the organisation as there are many risks to consider. Eg, Riful might betray Isley or vice versa while they're teaming up. Further, whats the purpose of destroying the organisation? For the better of mankind? I think Riful rather spend her time breaking Dulf while Isley rather spend his time baby sitting Priscilla.

LOL. makes me laugh whenever i think of how they described it. "they awakened because it was like having an orgasm". says so much about us men.
Well the problem of guys.....as usual.
Does Raki fall into this category too?

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 04:28 PM

well...i dont think Raki would fall under that...

even though he wants to become powerful enough to protect Claire, wouldnt he hate to become the very thing that destroyed his family?

and i dont think that he would awaken for that reason...

NinjaFromTron

08-30-2007, 04:35 PM

Is there going to be another set of episodes after the 26, or is Claymore in anime form finished?

chezkimo

08-30-2007, 04:39 PM

W00t! 1MMCM, i like it!

kinda roles off the tongue. And yeah, this thread's extened into 10 pages! Now with our numerous claymore fans, tones of posts and even our new name 1MMCM you'd ThInK the admins would make a user group/membership group for claymore giving us the titles of yoma, or claymore or abyssal ones where it says member...*hint hint* @ admins! don't you think that would be a good idea?! Don't you think *Prezzy* (a misture of prez (presesident) and Hy (Hynavian) to shorten things out. and yes that will be your nick name from now on. as for Lou, yours will be *Prezzo* and shall not be changed here after no matter how much it sound wierd and lame) :p

oh who am i kiding they won't notice this post.

anyway, don't know about Raki. i think all of the male claymores awakened so it would be slim chance for another not to, however, Raki is different. He probably has very high will power and high mentality.

by the way, why did you use the word "sexy" to describe new members?! we can't actually see thier faces...can we?!?! in any case nhy390 asanta and darthalvarez has shown great loyalty to the thread (more loyalty than the claymore anime has been to the manga anyway) and should be added to 1MMCM, however, if ye step one foot outside the line, ye all be walking the plank!!

oh and thoughts about ep 22, was ok. had a feeling that raki would go to clare, but i thought then priscilla or isley would take him by force or eat him or summit. and i swear priscilla seems much more brainless in the anime than in the manga. also, clare didn't awaken her legs, does this mean she's going to awaken all together?!

Oh as the co-president of the 1MangaMafia Claymore Thread, Im glad that everything is so lively in this forums. And hence, alas, its time to expand our powerful 1MangaMafia Claymore Clan (1MMCM)

1MMCM
Leaders: Hollywoodlou & Hynavian
Captain: chezkimo (to emphasize the importance of a captain)

And now the important message. We're looking for cute mambers, must be sexy enough to join our organisation. After some scouting, the below few are totally sexy dudes. hence, wanna join us?

nhy390
asanta
darthalvarez

Hynavian

08-30-2007, 05:32 PM

oh who am i kiding they won't notice this post.
I noticed it and took your suggestions captain. Check out the new signature. hollywoodlou is gonna blow his top when he sees the new name of his.

by the way, why did you use the word "sexy" to describe new members?! we can't actually see thier faces...can we?!?!
Everyone is sexy in 1MMCC. My Yoki sensing abilities tell me so.........Ah.......and the sexiest are the prezzy(presidents) of course!

oh and thoughts about ep 22, was ok. had a feeling that raki would go to clare, but i thought then priscilla or isley would take him by force or eat him or summit. and i swear priscilla seems much more brainless in the anime than in the manga. also, clare didn't awaken her legs, does this mean she's going to awaken all together?!
Ah yes I wonder what happened to Priscilla. She's a calm character when she awakened and now when she's in human form, she behaves like some kid!

Is there going to be another set of episodes after the 26, or is Claymore in anime form finished?
There's no news of any season 2 for the Claymore anime. Besides, there will not be enough chapters to make up a 2nd season anyway.

Madhouse can always come up with some crap and make a season 2 that is not related to the manga but i will give a big "BOO" to them if that happens.

nhy390

08-30-2007, 06:40 PM

Hey all, thanks for the invite! I am honoured to join the 1 MMCM!

Well, I watched ep. 22 over lunch and I must say I was a little disapointed. I didnt like how they kept breaking up the fighting with going back to Raki and Prisciall taking turns to moan! It didnt move forwards very much and made the fighting less interesting because of the constant slowing down :( Though it was good... I can;t say I didnt enjoy an ep of Claymore! Not sure if Clare is fully awakened. I dont think they showed enough of her to determine if she only awoke her legs. I dont mind straying from the manga, but this was not a particularly brilliant move! Maybe Raki and his horse will be eaten on the way! He is certainly drawing enough attension to himself with all his yelling!

What did you all think?

PS: an update of your rules would be good to avoid any plank walking!

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 07:00 PM

umm...what makes us "sexy" in the first place? o_o

and sure i might not mind joining

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 09:12 PM

umm...what makes us "sexy" in the first place? o_o

and sure i might not mind joining

Because WE are...you just have to learn to accept because you are the CAPTAIN OF THE FORUM and I'm the President. It comes with the perks.

Hey all, thanks for the invite! I am honoured to join the 1 MMCM!

Well, I watched ep. 22 over lunch and I must say I was a little disapointed. I didnt like how they kept breaking up the fighting with going back to Raki and Prisciall taking turns to moan! It didnt move forwards very much and made the fighting less interesting because of the constant slowing down Though it was good... I can;t say I didnt enjoy an ep of Claymore! Not sure if Clare is fully awakened. I dont think they showed enough of her to determine if she only awoke her legs. I dont mind straying from the manga, but this was not a particularly brilliant move! Maybe Raki and his horse will be eaten on the way! He is certainly drawing enough attension to himself with all his yelling!

What did you all think?

Welcome NHY to the 1MCMM...

I think there are 2 things immediately wrong with ep 22;

1) The action sequences were RUINED BY RAKI. period. What they should have done is PUT EVERY RAKI STORY in the back end like in ep 18 and let the action flow. The "insertions' was just annoying.

2) Madhouse was too lazy to draw the animation for the OTHER Claymores...who DISAPPEARED from the background.

I noticed it and took your suggestions captain. Check out the new signature. hollywoodlou is gonna blow his top when he sees the new name of his.

Nope. I live /work in Hollywood and an egotistical prick. I love it. Thank you Mr. CO-PRESIDENT...you are doing your job.

*********THE NEW OFFICERS CLUB OF 1MMCM************

HYNAVIAN/HOLLYWOODLOU: CO-PRESIDENTS

CHEZKIMO: Captain of the FORUM/Enforcer of Rules.

DARTHALVAREZ: Chairman of the Forum/SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE

NHY390: Chairman of 1MMCM Operations and Management

chezkimo

08-30-2007, 09:34 PM

lol. well, if other people are calling me sexy then i guess i must reluctantly accept it! :)

w00t, 4 people! and may i say those are some flashy titles there. by the way, my sig is really ennoying me, i wanted to put all the names of the people of the 1MMCM club but you're only allowed 4 lines! :( i think it's abit too short, they should give us like 7 or 8.

in any case, just as a note i have no reasons to dislike the anime because it is different from the manga HOWEVER there were too many things wrong with the previous episode and everyone was loving the anime up till now. i just can't help but think that perhaps if they followed the manga everybody would be like: OMG, this rocks as we all known that it's round about now in the story line that things start to get juicy! and besides, what's with anime series only being 26 episodes long. i mean, yeah other non-anime series are shorter but then the next series starts like a month later, with anime, if it's not popular enough it takes like a year. and with the popular ones there are the large amounts of fillers, like naruto.

now i've moaned enough. i wander if we'll be able to see the fight between luciela and isley in the anime, i want to see that in anime action form...except maybe luciela's mass of mouths *shudder* how much does she eat in one meal!!!

oh yeah, prezzo, i keep forgetting you work in hollywood, what's it like?!! i'll never be able to see it since i live in london and don't ever go over to america. do you sometimes get to see really big stars?!

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 10:29 PM

woohoo, lol im sexy lol

wow flashy title *puts on the pin* :D I is the speaker of the house "Now please stand"

i prefer to read manga....its much better than the anime even though you do get to see the action scenes and all...but still

Phantom Miria

08-30-2007, 10:31 PM

hmm i read the manga but i prefer the anime i mean its stayed pretty much completley the same throughout and clare and miria are hotter in it also lol

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 10:34 PM

lol, i prefer not to watch it cause ive been reading a lot of other manga series and stuff

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 10:55 PM

hmm i read the manga but i prefer the anime i mean its stayed pretty much completley the same throughout and clare and miria are hotter in it also lol

Sorry to say, it's NOT the same as the manga and I;ll give you 2 examples from episode 22:

1) where the hell did the 'OTHER' Claymores go during the battle @ the town square. in the manga, they were busy fighting off the rest of the AB's but in the anime...they suddenly disappeared?!?

2) Raki's annoying scenes are NOT in the manga. The manga pretty much straight up told the action sequences WITHOUT ANY RAKI INSTRUSION.

I agree, Ophelia, TEresa and Clare are hotter in the anime but MIria, your namesake is better looking in the manga.

--the prez

darthalvarez

08-30-2007, 11:00 PM

so pretty much, they make Raki more useless in the anime than in the manga, lol

hollywoodlou

08-30-2007, 11:04 PM

so pretty much, they make Raki more useless in the anime than in the manga, lol

Not really Mr. Chairman. They "tried" to make him more sympathetic/heroic in the anime but it pretty much insulted the intelligence of the Claymore manga readers.

You know the Pieta fight in the town square with Rigald? In the anime, Raki is coming to "Clare's rescue".....think about that for a second.;)

chezkimo

08-31-2007, 12:06 AM

darthalvarez

08-31-2007, 01:54 AM

you guys...dont you wonder why Raki HASNT been eaten? thats the question. i dont think that priscilla has thought of him as food...she just seems attached...but why?

Jammerjoint

08-31-2007, 02:02 AM

Priscilla is a bit of a strange case....

Smell of the south....young....similar to herself....what more can you say?

If you remember they said Priscilla never killed kids....its like she never noticed them.

The series is full of nutcases....but that's what adds a bit of the twist :]

darthalvarez

08-31-2007, 02:12 AM

but i bet you that he still isnt dead and i bet you that the smell wore off so wuts the deal?

hollywoodlou

08-31-2007, 02:49 AM

yep, yep. the author of the manga knew that he was doing when he threw raki out of the picture for abit and didn't concentrate on him that much. we all like clare and raki,TOGETHER, raki on his own his just boring and i guess it did insult our intellegence seeing as we know two wanderers just happened to walk past from pieta and tell them that the city is being invaded is stupid seeing as the city was evacuated time ago, infact just after those 3 did thier foward recon and secondly, nobody would be walking down that path that those guys went down coz with all the awakened beings they'd know that they'd stumble upon em and get eaten fast than you can say "yoma eat humans for breakfast!".

Not so fast Cap...I for 1 don't necessarily want those 2 to be together. A suffering Clare makes better drama than a happy Clare. If I wanted a romance story, I would start reading my gf's romance novels. BLECHH.

also, once raki gets to the city there'd be a bunch of awakened beings and he'd get eaten also!! those awkened beings that "dissapeared" before rigald attack didn't just fly away or vanish into the sky.

Exactly. Where the hell did they go??? Either they're smoking cigs and taking bets OR they're scared sh8tless and hiding in the buildings. Stupid Madhouse.

and prezzo, what's with ignoring me, what's working in hollywood like?!

I wasn't ignoring you captain. I didn't notice your question til now. Nothing much. I work for a casting agency for tv series like CSI Miami, CSI, plus major movies so my face is in front of my laptop for 16 hrs a day going thru their bios/resumes. 1M is always on another window to give me a break.

you guys...dont you wonder why Raki HASNT been eaten? thats the question. i dont think that priscilla has thought of him as food...she just seems attached...but why?

He hasn't been eaten because he's Pris's DOG. The "smell of the South" reminds her of her native land and that smell is Raki. If Raki smelled like "southern BBQ", then he'd be porterhouse steak by now.

If you remember they said Priscilla never killed kids....its like she never noticed them.

That was just speculation from the manga because she passed by chibi Clare when she had the chance to snack/kill her. That's where it started.
Remember WHY oPhelia became a Claymore? Because her KID BROTHER sacrificed himself so Ophelia can escape from Priscilla. So that theory gets shot down.

but i bet you that he still isnt dead and i bet you that the smell wore off so wuts the deal?

It WONT wear off. Like every animal in the kingdom, no amount of Dial or Tide will wash off the pheromones of another animal. It is a distinctive smell.
But really, I just want Priscilla to eat the kid...yummmy.

Hynavian

08-31-2007, 03:52 AM

If you remember they said Priscilla never killed kids....its like she never noticed them.
I think its more like Priscilla did not notice Clare only. The others add on to her lunch packages if they meet her.

Not so fast Cap...I for 1 don't necessarily want those 2 to be together. A suffering Clare makes better drama than a happy Clare. If I wanted a romance story, I would start reading my gf's romance novels. BLECHH.
No no no...I have to disagree with you on this. Im fully supporting Clare-Raki relationship. Though I hope that there is "some development" between them, I still want the emphasis of the manga to be on the actions instead.

Well...maybe showing the love between clare-raki now and then would be good but not everytime.

I agree, Ophelia, TEresa and Clare are hotter in the anime but MIria, your namesake is better looking in the manga.
Prez, I agree with you. Miria looks sooooooooooooooo much cuter in the manga and looks more jadded in the anime. I love the part in extra scene 2 where miria was featured along with her friend, Hilda, in the first few pages. That was a cute and innocent looking Miria.

hollywoodlou

08-31-2007, 04:11 AM

Good evening, prez...;)

No no no...I have to disagree with you on this. Im fully supporting Clare-Raki relationship. Though I hope that there is "some development" between them, I still want the emphasis of the manga to be on the actions instead.

Well...maybe showing the love between clare-raki now and then would be good but not everytime.

I welcome dissenting opinions. Truthfully, I do not know the dynamics of their relationship. IF this is a slutty Clare molesting a child, I say NO. If it Raki looks @ Clare as her older lover, I'm willing to ride with that.

Prez, I agree with you. Miria looks sooooooooooooooo much cuter in the manga and looks more jadded in the anime. I love the part in extra scene 2 where miria was featured along with her friend, Hilda, in the first few pages. That was a cute and innocent looking Miria.

Yes, you are correct co-prez. The younger Miria is freakinnnnnnn HOOOOT. Damn! I don't usually lust for manga characters but waitaminute...gotta control myself here.:lol:

What did it for me about manga Miria was the way she sits down and she's the only Claymore who crosses her legs in such a sexy way, it's just mesmerizing.

Damn you, your starting this hentai talk again prezzy.:thumbup:

Hynavian

08-31-2007, 04:33 AM

What did it for me about manga Miria was the way she sits down and she's the only Claymore who crosses her legs in such a sexy way, it's just mesmerizing.

Damn you, your starting this hentai talk again prezzy.:thumbup:

Wait....where are those scenes found? I missed out on seeing a sexy Miria crossing her legs. Nooooooooo........tell me, where are those sexy scenes!

:cookies:

Prezzy, Im going to re-read the whole Claymore manga and do a volume by volume discussion. Game for it?

hollywoodlou

08-31-2007, 04:52 AM

Wait....where are those scenes found? I missed out on seeing a sexy Miria crossing her legs. Nooooooooo........tell me, where are those sexy scenes!

:cookies:

Prezzy, Im going to re-read the whole Claymore manga and do a volume by volume discussion. Game for it?

I thought you're a Claymore SEXpert like me? You know it's a prerequisite for being president, dontcha?

Miria: start w/ scene 51 when the Slashers reunion' in the cave.;)

I even memorized Clare naked (backside): scene 38, pages 4-5. lol.

hell, Im game for it....but the website 'time" says 4 am??? WTF, in Hollywood it's only 9 pm!

nhy390

08-31-2007, 10:22 AM

Thanks for the title! Chairman of Operations and Management!!! I like it! Probably the fanciest title I will ever get :D

Yeah, last episode of Claymore was defintely not the best. It does seem like Madhouse is getting lazy towards the end, though I still enjoy it! However, I keep thinking that having read each chaptter of the manga at least once, it spoils the anime a little bit. But I must admit that I enjoyed the "Invasion of Pita" episodes less than the others. However, with these changes, I dont know how they will finish it. Maybe they will have Raki show up after the fighting and just see a bunch of dead Claymores, or swords planted in the snow as grave stones.... I dont know. How would you like to see the anime end? I think it would be good if it ended with Priscila counting the lights that go out. and then fast forward to the time when the 4 claymores are in the mountains in the north and get ambyshed by the ABs. Then have all the monsters killed, and then show Clarice counting the swords in the snow with 7 silhouettes on the mountain above. That would be pretty good. I must admit that I didnt come up with this ending. I read it on another forum, but I thought it was a great idea! (I don't like taking credit for what's not mine!)

THe best thing about the anime is that you really get a feel and appreciation for the sword skills of each claymore, more so than in the manga I think.

I do like your idea of looking at each chapter! I will try to follow, but I dont know if I have that much time to comit to reading and commiting! Busy, busy life!!! I have to, every now and then, return to the real world... though the fantasy world I spend most of my time in is much better :D

chezkimo

08-31-2007, 11:45 AM

lol. "sexperts"?!...........that's a seriously dodgy occupation there :)
but anyway, yeah, i think flora looks better in the manga, they didn't get her prettiness in the anime and with that pretty and cute long and curly hair how couldn't you draw her pretty. and yeah, i swear it's like they made miria's hair more kinda spiky in the anime and lil bit larger.

in any case yeah, madhouse is definatly getting lazy towards the end, hey he was lazy to begin with seeing as he changed the series to fit into 26 episodes when he should of just followed it and turned into into a multi-series anime so it could become more popular!!

in any case, i'm game for it. should we start with the 1st chapter first, who'd like to start?!

`Critz`

08-31-2007, 01:44 PM

I hope the anime doesnt catch up with the manga.. that would be depressing..

Hynavian

08-31-2007, 04:36 PM

I hope the anime doesnt catch up with the manga.. that would be depressing..
It almost caught up to the manga already pal. Critical point is around volume 10 of the Manga. (So far there's 12 volumes only)

Miria: start w/ scene 51 when the Slashers reunion' in the cave.;)

I even memorized Clare naked (backside): scene 38, pages 4-5. lol.
Ah thanks I found it. Hmm...ok that pose is fitting for miria. Is it just me or does everyone also find Miria extrememly sexy while she's sitting around in the manga.
Check out Miria cool sitting poses:
Vol 12 chapter 66 - A sitting Miria talking to all 24 Claymores.
Vol 12 chapter 67 - A sitting Miria listening to what Clare has to say.

in any case, i'm game for it. should we start with the 1st chapter first, who'd like to start?!

As the 1MMCM co-president, I will be the first one to set the ball rolling. I was actually thinking of a volume by volume discussion but since there's requests for a chapter by chapter discussions, I will go with those requests.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok, here's some of the discussion topics that I'll look into for each of the chapters.

- Plot
- Drawing Style (Foreground,Background,Characters)
- Structure of Chapter [Too little/many pages? End off well?]
- Skills Discussion
- Characters Discussions [Who's the sexiest is definitely included.]

We will have a thorough discussion of the chapter before moving on to another. (need at least a few days though)
Please re-read the particular chapter before commenting so as to reduce possible confusions and conflicts.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

1MMCM Brings you the "Chapter by Chapter" Claymore Discussion.
Volume 1, Chapter 1

Ok, plot wise it's interesting to, firstly, know that Claymores are half-yomas half-humans. Secondly, to know that Claymores are mainly women. Thirdly, that they weird great big broadsword like weapons with one hand as they have the strength to do so. Im also fascinated by the fact that their eyes changes colour. Hence, bringing on to my next point....

I could not make out when the Claymore's eye change colour and could not imagine a silver eye when i first read this. Hence, an applaud for the anime as it did justice to eye colour changing system. (Madhouse really portrayed those silver eyes beautifully and clearly to the audiences)

Ok, the point is the manga failed in bringing out the eye colour aspect. And the drawing of chapter 1 is so so that I couldnt point out who's the sexiest. I looked through this chapter 3 times and couldnt bring myself to say that Clare is sexy in this chapter. Though Clare and Raki do not appear to be sexy in this chapter, I feel that much effort is put into the supporting characters and the background. One can see the bricks of houses and look at page 60, the mangaka even gave the 2 old man different hair styles. :devil:

Length wise, its reasonable for a chapter one as the manga will be lacking in plot if it is too short. Cant say much for skill-wise. However, readers get the general idea that Claymores are stronger and much faster than a normal human. Oh now I know why I didnt find Clare sexy in this chapter. Her face and body scared the sh*t of me when she was using her yoki to slaughter the Yoma. Do take note that I had no idea why her body was deforming as it was only the first chapter. Hence, I was kinda curious what Claymores are and continued reading.

I'll stop here for now. Feel free to shoot me down as that's what discussions are for. Feel free to add in more too.

nhy390

08-31-2007, 05:37 PM

Right, Isorry I got chapter and volume mixed up :) Sorry! Volume is fine with me rather than chapter.

I do like the attension to detail in this manga, which why I can live with the monthly release as so much nicework goes into it. He is good at not cutting too many corners! As for the eyes, and many aspects of movement, I think it is much easier to appreciate in the anime, so I do actually think that the anime is quite good to watch if you are reading the manga. It helps you imagination, especially with fancy sword play and very fast movements.

As fgor sexyness... I never found Clare very atractive in the beginning, or for most of the first volume! I didnt really start looking more once they moved oon to Theresa of the Faint Smile. I still think she is one of the best characters in the manga and am repeatedly sadned by the fact that they killed her off! And, the claymores are not exactly sexy when they start releasing yoma power, with all the vains and freaky mouths, drooling, etc!!!

But it was a nice introduction in the first chapter to get the introduction to the main characters through the eyes of the villagers. It helps to understand them I think.

Im sorry, fellow 1MMCMs, but it is the weekend and my internet connection is down as I just moved flat, so I am afraid I wont be able to add to the discussion before monday! So I will probably have 20 pages to go through! Will help me through the toughness of monday morning! Enjoy and have fun!!!

hollywoodlou

08-31-2007, 06:32 PM

Ah thanks I found it. Hmm...ok that pose is fitting for miria. Is it just me or does everyone also find Miria extrememly sexy while she's sitting around in the manga.
Check out Miria cool sitting poses:
Vol 12 chapter 66 - A sitting Miria talking to all 24 Claymores.
Vol 12 chapter 67 - A sitting Miria listening to what Clare has to say.

Of course I know about 66/67...they're BOTh wearing black mini skirts and I can see Miria and Clare's "soul".:rolleyes:

lol. "sexperts"?!...........that's a seriously dodgy occupation there
but anyway, yeah, i think flora looks better in the manga, they didn't get her prettiness in the anime and with that pretty and cute long and curly hair how couldn't you draw her pretty. and yeah, i swear it's like they made miria's hair more kinda spiky in the anime and lil bit larger.

Agreed captain. In the manga, Flora looks like a crack addict. In the anime, she's hot...she got hotter with that loli voice of hers. No man can resist that.
***

I'll go with volume per volume discussion but the time differences between everyone here is ridiculous.

darthalvarez

08-31-2007, 07:08 PM

yea and that means stoping from reading the manga series that im reading and going back to this one...(ive only spoken on memory...)

but i might do it, since im sexy o_o and i was appointed a very flashy post

Jammerjoint

08-31-2007, 08:48 PM

Actually, that doesn't mean ophelia didn't have to escape. Her brother just had to get her out of there, it's not like Ophelia could've escaped if Priscilla was right there.

Also, you guys forget that the awakened beings went to attack Pieta, and were later obliterated by Riful and Alicia.

hollywoodlou

09-01-2007, 04:41 AM

Does anybody know if :

1) Who was #3: Sophia or Noel?

2) With all this "soul talk" about the "Claymores in me" throughout the series like Fit for Battle, and the reason Clare said "the souls in me won't forgive me..."Does this mean a Claymores soul goes to the nearest living one? or this is just figurative speech and NOT literal?

3) If Raphaela met Chibi Teresa...does this mean Raphaela is the oldest Claymore we know of?

pigpie

09-01-2007, 05:42 AM

1)It is not stated in the manga and anime who is no.3,but because they are equal in power with different styles,maybe it is for readers to decide
2)It is not literal,just a figure of speech.

pigpie

09-01-2007, 05:50 AM

hollywoodlou

09-01-2007, 07:47 AM

3)Raphela is older than Teresa because she is from the previous arc before Teresa.

I think that Riful can be killed by claymores,Using Jean and Rachel skill,Jeans skillwhich helen has learn can maybe drill through Riful head,or Rachael can do her skill (steel sword)on a fallen(laying horizaontally)riful to slice of her head,because if you guys notice,Riful can only split vertically and not sideways,Alicia can also slice her into half since Alicia is stronger than the Abbysal ones,but what about Priscilla.

About Chapter 74.Maybe Miata sense either Raphaela,Irene or Galatea,but i think it is Raphela or Irene,high possibilty is the 7 survivors ot the Northern War,Miata doen't detect their yoki but instead feels them with her senses,since they didn't show Raphela and Irene actually dying,so it is super high possibility that they aren't dead as animes and mangas are always like this,plus Irene is like super hard to kill,even after being slice by Priscilla.

welcome pigpie!

Good insight. That was trick Q regarding Noel and Sophia on other Claymore forums...nobody knows.

2nd Q: That was figurative? I took it literally. How in the hell did Clare learn the Quick Sword of Flora? Flora didn't teach it to her.
And I think Helen did a little "Jean" drill in scene 67 as well...

Chapter 74: I agree with you. It's either one of the 7 or the Hiding 3 (Galatea, irene or Raphaela). You are also correct on Irene...we DIDN'T SEE HER DIE in both anime and manga. Good job.

pigpie

09-01-2007, 08:08 AM

hollywoodlou

09-01-2007, 08:49 AM

I read and watch the claymore series many times before so i know quite a lot about it,tjanks for the welcome.Windcutter Flora took Clare 7 years to learn,and because quickswrd is the awakening of one arm which will release yoki,clare chose the alternative and used windcutter,which is like Mirias new illusion that doesn't require the use of Yoki,because Clares/Irenes arm is already used to such speed to take her sword,slash and put it back,Clare is able to learn Windcutter since they are almost identical,Deneve also stated that Clare is the one having the hardest time within the 7 years,so it must mean that she has been practising Windcutter ,without the help of yoki..(My Hypothesis)
Extra Scene 3.Will it be the final extra scene or will there be another one,i hope they show Luciella And Rafaella story line,i am interested in them,or maybe Rifuls past and how she awaken to become an abyssal one .Priscilla would be fine,but i don't like Priscilla,she killed Teresa.Showing the time of the male Claymore would be good as well,i am interested in how their costume look like,i mean it can't be skin tight like the female one.

Speaking of extra SCENE # 3 here's the cover: AND WHO;S STORY:

http://i10.tinypic.com/6arf1oh.jpg

Sorry to burst your bubble bro. I hate Priscilla as well, she killed my idol. I dont care if she's spaced out all the time...she;ll get her comeuppance.

Unfortunately, this is the the LAST xtra scene before November 2's launch of Claymore in Jump Square.

Hynavian

09-01-2007, 09:32 AM

I read and watch the claymore series many times before so i know quite a lot about it,tjanks for the welcome.Windcutter Flora took Clare 7 years to learn,and because quickswrd is the awakening of one arm which will release yoki,clare chose the alternative and used windcutter,which is like Mirias new illusion that doesn't require the use of Yoki,because Clares/Irenes arm is already used to such speed to take her sword,slash and put it back,Clare is able to learn Windcutter since they are almost identical,Deneve also stated that Clare is the one having the hardest time within the 7 years,so it must mean that she has been practising Windcutter ,without the help of yoki..(My Hypothesis)
Extra Scene 3.Will it be the final extra scene or will there be another one,i hope they show Luciella And Rafaella story line,i am interested in them,or maybe Rifuls past and how she awaken to become an abyssal one .Priscilla would be fine,but i don't like Priscilla,she killed Teresa.Showing the time of the male Claymore would be good as well,i am interested in how their costume look like,i mean it can't be skin tight like the female one.

Welcome pigpie. Do feel at home as Im sure the 1MMCM members will be around to discuss many stuff with you. Fret not, our members have read through the manga many times and some have watched the anime many times too (till our electric bills are soaring high).

Back to your wincutter topic, i was thinking since Deneve said that Clare had the "hardest time" trying to master that technique, can we say that the others are also undergoing vigorous trainings too and had come out with some skills.

With that, we have not seen Cynthia and Yuma in action yet. Oh and Tabitha. I was hoping for some Cynthia power as a sexy character like her should not be ignored by the mangaka.

@hollywoodlou
Oh buddy, Im having the same sentiments like you. I would prefer an issue on Flora, Galatea or Cynthia (or any of the sexy claymores) instead of Priscilla. Im totally not interested in how her family got massacred or how she massacred her family and the others.

chezkimo

09-01-2007, 01:06 PM

hmmmmmmmmm, hollywoodlou, where'd you get the cover of the next extra scene, i've seen no scanalations of it. and noooooooooooooo, why priscilla. the subject of her is kinda boring! we know what happened, it's not like it needs more in depth explaining like miria's freind Hilda did or of how Rosemary (#2 of theresa's gen.) died. we practicly saw everything in the flash back.

now, about what pigpie was saying. clare's mastered the wind-cutter, yes, it was flora's technique however, i don't think it would be impossible, infact, clare can be quite a quick study can't she. her flash-sword is very simular to flora's wind-cutter and she did have 7 years to master the technique. also, i think it's very cool that helen has jean's technique, seeing as she was probably the only one that would be able to master it in the gang seeing as she can quite easily stretch her limbs further than any other claymore. but this begs the question, what have are other freinds learnt?! deneve is #15, and was the highest number that wasn't a captain, meaning she probably has high potential. perhaps her quick-healing abilities have grown to a tremendous rate where she dosn't even need much yoki to heal a life-threatening organ?
and is it me or has one of the gang develpoed high yoki-sensing abilities?

and you'll probably disagree with this coz of many reasons but seeing as galatea has good yoki-controlling abilities, after seven years, clare being able to turn back from awakening all 4 limbs, does anyone might think that those two can become a dual where clare will awaken her limbs and galatea will control them or bring back clare after fights are over. that would be wicked!!

PS miria's multi mirages are cool!

also, sophia and noel, who really is numbers 4 and 5 coz of when priscilla joined. those two will probably never be given thier actual numbers and we'll probably only know them as a pair and categorize them together, however, i believe that noel, who was the one with that great strength was #4, seeing as it's like a patern that #4's seem to be all brutally strong and if i were to go for agility or strength, i'd go for strength.

chezkimo

09-01-2007, 01:08 PM

and ooh, thanks co-prezzy. the stuff look cool.

Hynavian

09-01-2007, 01:24 PM

and ooh, thanks co-prezzy. the stuff look cool.

No problem Captain

Im wondering what Cynthia and Yuma had mastered in the 7 years. We know that Tabitha has some long range Yoki sensing abilities but that does not mean that she did not have that ability befiore the 7 years. Maybe she sharpened her skills during the 7 years.

My guess is that Deneve worked on her strength in the 7 years as she's kinda picturing Undine as her role model. The 2 Claymore style of fighting also requires her to be equally strong in both arms. Hence, my bet is that she worked on her offensive quite a bit.

As for Miria's new mirages, though she can do it countless number of times now, her new mirages are slower as compared to before. Im wondering whether it will help her if another opponent like rigardo appears. And we know that its Miria's past mirages (the one that has a limit) that was able to match Rigardo's insane speed.

chezkimo

09-01-2007, 02:29 PM

Yep. Those two are a mystery, seeing as we didn't really know what they were capable of before the seven years, really. and yeah, i agree about deneve. it must be harder though seeing as she's a defensive type, but i guess if she has good regenerating skills and good strength the two aspects willmake her a great warrior, seeing as most claymores choose one or the other.

and yeah, i know they're slower but they're good at confusing the enermy, and besides, i think it's better than a "one shot" technique that can only be used a limited amount of times. and did you notice when she was rescuing those two from riful she was faster, so her natural speed increased as well along with her speed when it's increased by her yoki, so atleast she'd be able to increase her chances if she thought up against someone like rigaldo again.

chezkimo

09-01-2007, 02:30 PM

by the way, are most of the mangas that are scanned on onemanga monthly ones. coz i've been waiting forever for my favs to be updated.

asanta

09-01-2007, 02:32 PM

Can you imagine the sher power of Clare, the fact that she has mastered both the 'windcutter' and the 'quick sword'.

not to mention that the windcutter doesnt involve yoki, so imagine what it'll be like once she lets some power through. She even held on her own against Miria after the 7 year gap.

I really wanna see Clare fight. especially since the 7 of them are on their own and Miria did say they will side with "who ever looks like they're losing' so it'll be interesting what they do from here. Personally i think they might have to side with Rsomeone. i know that they arent friends, but If Clare is serious about what she wants to do, and Miria is also serious about what ever her plans are, i think it might help to say they need help since who ever their enemies are, they are going to have enormous power - Riful, Isley, Priscella, Alicia, the rest of ORG.

Maybe im hoping very much that they meat up with the 'Former's and they help each other.....

just hoping.......=P

Hynavian

09-01-2007, 02:58 PM

by the way, are most of the mangas that are scanned on onemanga monthly ones. coz i've been waiting forever for my favs to be updated.

From what I know, nope. One Manga uploads what they have as soon as they gotten it. It depends on the rate the scanlators and translators are going though.

I really wanna see Clare fight. especially since the 7 of them are on their own and Miria did say they will side with "who ever looks like they're losing' so it'll be interesting what they do from here. Personally i think they might have to side with Rsomeone. i know that they arent friends, but If Clare is serious about what she wants to do, and Miria is also serious about what ever her plans are, i think it might help to say they need help since who ever their enemies are, they are going to have enormous power - Riful, Isley, Priscella, Alicia, the rest of ORG.

I think you need to continue reading dude. We're already at chapter 73 now. Clare and gang rescued Rachel and Audrey (the ones who are losing).

I also agree with you that Clare and Miria mean business when they're serious. I marvelled at Miria's determination to keep check on Clare for the past 7 years. Must have been a hell of time for her as Clare keeps running off.

darthalvarez

09-01-2007, 03:07 PM

hey guys

im going to be away till tuesday so once im back ill participate :)

later

chezkimo

09-01-2007, 03:14 PM

From what I know, nope. One Manga uploads what they have as soon as they gotten it. It depends on the rate the scanlators and translators are going though.

I think you need to continue reading dude. We're already at chapter 73 now. Clare and gang rescued Rachel and Audrey (the ones who are losing).

I also agree with you that Clare and Miria mean business when they're serious. I marvelled at Miria's determination to keep check on Clare for the past 7 years. Must have been a hell of time for her as Clare keeps running off.

Lol, that's probably how she developed her new mirage technique by running after clare all the time. i can imgaine it. *something crashes* "raki!!!" and clare goes running off,...one hour later "how are you dong clare", "what's that, raki's nere by, raki!!!!!!" clare goes running off again.

and asanta, about that thing that you said, soemthing about joining up with the formers. does that mean meeting up with all the renegades, coz if you're talking the abyssal ones as in former #1s, then it's not really a possibility as riful can't help but torture people even while probably having her little tea parties and isley would kill em straight away and alicia and beth, if they're not given orders by the org they'd probably just be standing in one spot for about 3 months because they have no brains of thier own!

but if all the renegades were to want to completly destroy the org and for some bizzare reason joined up with riful coz she promised not to torture them into awakened beings that would be...interesting. i can just imagine them riding riful and breaking into the org.

pigpie

09-01-2007, 03:50 PM

alicia and beth, if they're not given orders by the org they'd probably just be standing in one spot for about 3 months because they have no brains of thier own!

but if all the renegades were to want to completly destroy the org and for some bizzare reason joined up with riful coz she promised not to torture them into awakened beings that would be...interesting. i can just imagine them riding riful and breaking into the org.

The part about the twins is funny,but i find beth being a no2 very intriguing,i mean she is kinda useless if she isn't with alicia because what she does is only control alicia once awaken.

About Rifuls Gang.i highly doubt the formers will join Riful,Riful is only using them as pawns so they are dispensible.And Riful is sadistic.

About the 7 survivors,they are more powerful than the high ranking nos in the organization including Yuma right??I mean they are the ones who saved Claric And Ninas' gang from the awakened ones.

pigpie

09-01-2007, 03:57 PM

Captain
Deneve is not the hogheat non-captain,Cynthia is the one,she is no.14.I think Deneve has a better regeneration powers as compared to her previous abilities,Cynthia i not sure,Tabitha is the "eye" ,Yuma is pratically useless,Miria has got new mirage Clare got Windcutter Helen got Jeans Drill.

Hynavian

09-01-2007, 04:05 PM

Captain, your comments on Miria was comical. I bet that was how she came up with her new mirages....by relentlessly following Clare around ;)

Oh and your comment on Alicia-Beth...you make them sound like idiots. Well, Alicia at least have the ability to communicate with her handler when she replied that she could have dealt 50% damage to Riful before dying. For Beth, not much known about her though. All in all, I like the way that you have portrayed them...you make my day!

Captain! As the Captain of the forums, you should set an example and learn how to use the "edit" button that is located at the bottom right if you need to add in any new stuff as double posting is not a sexy way to do things.

1MMCM members should do things the sexy way :eban:

pigpie, welcome to the Claymore thread discussions. Feel free to ask anything :) We're sexy helpful people.

pigpie

09-01-2007, 04:12 PM

Does that make me sexy as well.

Ask me too,I like giving my hypothesis like Miria.

About the anime,will Luciella be show doing her thang(mainly eating),i am interested in her character,because the anime only shows 26 eps,and from the look of things,she might not be shown meaning those who have not read the manga will get puzzled by why Rafaellea is losing one eye,and weather Irene died or not.I have a feeling the anime won't end well.

Hynavian

09-01-2007, 04:22 PM

Does that make me sexy as well.
If you join the 1MMCM, you'll be sexy as well.

Ask me too,I like giving my hypothesis like Miria.
Whats your hypothesis on Miria pigpie?

About the anime,will Luciella be show doing her thang(mainly eating),i am interested in her character,because the anime only shows 26 eps,and from the look of things,she might not be shown meaning those who have not read the manga will get puzzled by why Rafaellea is losing one eye,and weather Irene died or not.I have a feeling the anime won't end well.
I think many who have not read the manga treats Raphaela as a non-existent character. How many can even remember her as she only briefly appeared to give Irene the red card. With lesser screen time as compared to sophie and noel, I dont think others bothered about her at all.

From the looks of it, there's still a chance of the anime ending along the lines of the manga if Mahouse don't do stupid stuff like...

1) Raki dies in the process of trying to stop Clare from awakening.
2) Jeane survives along with many other Claymores.
3) Clare meeting Priscilla and Isley in Pieta.
4) Rigardo kills Clare and Miria, along with the others.

chezkimo

09-01-2007, 04:22 PM

i know they'd never join her. but if they did join with the enermy in order to defeat the orgi riful would probably be the one they joined. but there's too many reasons why that will never happen huh.

and really? coz i swear cynthia was the 5th captain as she was the 5th smallest number, right after Undine, who was the 4th. remember:

Captain 1: Miria
Cpt 2: flora
Cpt 3: Jean
Cpt 4: Undine
Cpt 5: Cynthia

and my memories really bad coz i thought that rigaldo killed cynthia but i guess i need to re-read. soooorry. but besides cynthia deneve is the highest non-captain of the north war and i personally think that people underestimate deneve and she isn't expressed as that strong from the author as cynthia was 14 and deneve is 15 and when rigaldo was counting the strongest, he counted cynthia and called deneve just weak. there can't be that much difference in power between the 14th and 15th right?

and seeing as we're on about people who've lost the orgi, don't you think raphaela is EXTREMELY melo-dramtic. alot of claymore's have probably had deep relationships with thier sisters and brothers that are now dead. and yh, luciela becoming an abyssal one and attacking her sister, leaving her with only one eye may be different from the others, she dosn't have to become a zombie!!

Hynavian

09-01-2007, 04:29 PM

and really? coz i swear cynthia was the 5th captain as she was the 5th smallest number, right after Undine, who was the 4th. remember:

Captain 1: Miria
Cpt 2: flora
Cpt 3: Jean
Cpt 4: Undine
Cpt 5: Cynthia

and my memories really bad coz i thought that rigaldo killed cynthia but i guess i need to re-read. soooorry. but besides cynthia deneve is the highest non-captain of the north war and i personally think that people underestimate deneve and she isn't expressed as that strong from the author as cynthia was 14 and deneve is 15 and when rigaldo was counting the strongest, he counted cynthia and called deneve just weak. there can't be that much difference in power between the 14th and 15th right?
What are you doing Captain!!!! You should re-read the whole chapters on the North War again. The one who got butchered was Veronica. Cynthia was closest to her, hence, I think Cynthia spent 7 years reminising her and wanted to accompany Miria to the South so as to avenge Veronica's death.

pigpie

09-01-2007, 04:38 PM

Hynavian,you misintepreted,i mean i want to be like Miria,always having her own hypothesis.

And Captain,how can you forget No.13 Veronica,she was the first to be killed and is Cynthias' BFF.

Regarding Raphaella's single eye,i don't hink it was because Luciella injured her but was some side effect of the experiment,since Abbyssal ones have intelligence greater than that of normal awakened one,she couldn't have attacked her own sister because I think they are very close,so close to the point that Rafaella went on to kill Luciella.What sisterly love

pigpie

09-01-2007, 04:46 PM

Is Priscilla story before or after she awaken or before or after she became a claymore ecause from the looks from her eye and hair colour ,it doesn;t resemble a claymore anymore.Better not be about how she rose up to no.2,better be about her battle with either Isley or he inteferring her fight between Luciella and Isley

chezkimo

09-01-2007, 05:13 PM

ooh ok. i get those two mixed up - cynthia and veronica, i told you i have a bad memory. and those that mean that they had 13, 14 and 15 all in a row? that seems abit too...organised?

you don't think it was because of luciela? but how can that kind of an experment have a side-effect like that? i would of thought seeing as it's to do with yoki, it wouldn' have such a physicallly visual effect. after all luciela did attack the org after she awakened and killed basicly everybody!

by the way, whose your fave claymore? and whose ur fave awakened being?

me: claymore = galatea (yeah, you didn't know that coz i never say it)
awakened being = do you have to ask!

pigpie

09-01-2007, 06:11 PM

I personally like lots of Claymore ranging from Teresa,Flora,Jean and Deneve but my top would be Deneve,very cool personality and like her seiyuu
Awakened One:No idea,but I find Luciella one very interesting,but if I were to choose one it would be ummmmmmm.........Still Luciella,too bad she is kinda weak.
Hate:Priscilla(Awakened One),killed Teresa.BOOOOOO....!!!

hollywoodlou

09-01-2007, 07:10 PM

WTH, I wake up 1 morning and there's like 3 pages I have to cover...

ooh ok. i get those two mixed up - cynthia and veronica, i told you i have a bad memory. and those that mean that they had 13, 14 and 15 all in a row? that seems abit too...organised?

Cynthia is # 14 while Veronica was #13, which is strange because they were on the same team @ Pieta.
Veronica is the leader with the ponytail who got killed by Rigald first.

you don't think it was because of luciela? but how can that kind of an experment have a side-effect like that? i would of thought seeing as it's to do with yoki, it wouldn' have such a physicallly visual effect. after all luciela did attack the org after she awakened and killed basicly everybody!

Luciela didn't kill everybody upon awakening...she just went nuts.

Is Priscilla story before or after she awaken or before or after she became a claymore ecause from the looks from her eye and hair colour ,it doesn;t resemble a claymore anymore.Better not be about how she rose up to no.2,better be about her battle with either Isley or he inteferring her fight between Luciella and Isley

No one knows...I found the cover from a "secret site". I dont wanna hear about how she and Isley met NOR how she feels about killing Teresa...screw that b*tch. But I'll still read it just to scratch my itch for November 2.

Regarding Raphaella's single eye,i don't hink it was because Luciella injured her but was some side effect of the experiment,since Abbyssal ones have intelligence greater than that of normal awakened one,she couldn't have attacked her own sister because I think they are very close,so close to the point that Rafaella went on to kill Luciella.What sisterly love

The eye was not (I think) because of the experiment BUT before she transformed.
Yes, Raphy killed her sister...she was too dangerous. It's in the manga.

know they'd never join her. but if they did join with the enermy in order to defeat the orgi riful would probably be the one they joined. but there's too many reasons why that will never happen huh.

and really? coz i swear cynthia was the 5th captain as she was the 5th smallest number, right after Undine, who was the 4th. remember:

Captain 1: Miria
Cpt 2: flora
Cpt 3: Jean
Cpt 4: Undine
Cpt 5: Cynthia

and my memories really bad coz i thought that rigaldo killed cynthia but i guess i need to re-read. soooorry. but besides cynthia deneve is the highest non-captain of the north war and i personally think that people underestimate deneve and she isn't expressed as that strong from the author as cynthia was 14 and deneve is 15 and when rigaldo was counting the strongest, he counted cynthia and called deneve just weak. there can't be that much difference in power between the 14th and 15th right?

Captain...co-prez is correct. Veronica is the captain...NOT Cynthia.
Cynthia was # 14 BTW and Veronica # 13.

From the looks of it, there's still a chance of the anime ending along the lines of the manga if Mahouse don't do stupid stuff like...

1) Raki dies in the process of trying to stop Clare from awakening.
2) Jeane survives along with many other Claymores.
3) Clare meeting Priscilla and Isley in Pieta.
4) Rigardo kills Clare and Miria, along with the others.

yes, Madhouse ruined the manga BUt if Raki dies in the anime, I;ll forgive them.

if anyone wants ep 21 and 22 Rigald fight WITHOUT ANY RAKI...here's the link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/52572865/Claymore_21-22_Rigardo_fight_no_interruptions.avi.html

I REPEAT...NO RAKI, JUST RIGALD KICKING THE SH*T OUT OF THE CLAYMORES IN BOTH EPISODES 21 & 22.

chezkimo

09-01-2007, 08:44 PM

waaaaaaaaaaah! i'm getting ganged up on just because i mixed two very simular characters who had like one rank difference and always stayed together and both thier names ended with the same sound. you can't blame me for getting those two mixed up, i'm sure it's a mistake that has happened before. and like i said, i have a bad memory.

now, continue witht he discussions regarding that melo-dramatic-zombie- emo-chick raphaela, what could of happened for her to loose her eye then before luciela awakened? when she was a small innocent non-emo-chik girl? you know what, they could of atleast done a sotry on how raphaela lost her eye than about priscilla. surely those guys know that the way they made priscilla's character is gonna make people hate her. the one thing that made me not like her from the start was her white and black view.

and what i meant by "luciela killed everybody upon awakening" is that she awakened and then killed everybody. how is that different to "she awakened and then went nuts"? coz remember they actually did say it was a disaster and that she killed all the claymores, even the trainees remember...........why couldn't she kill rubel while she was at it!!!! in any case, just making it clear in case you misjudged what i was saying.

and you know what, i went to boarders coz they have a manga section thinking oooh, i'll buy claymore while i was doing a shopping spree, they had all crap like one-piece and all, with the exception of some good ones but no claymore :( and i live in london where nobody and i mean nobody reads manga so i probably won't be able to find any manga anywhere else :(:(:(:(

but anyway, pigpie, for a newbie you sure message a hell lot. personally message to me some time k?

chezkimo

09-01-2007, 08:48 PM

OMG, people, people, for some reason one manga has banned hynavian, the co-prezzy of 1MMCM just like a second ago!! we must investigate!! does anybody know what's happened??

hollywoodlou

09-01-2007, 08:50 PM

chez, Im online right now...WTF? The co-prez has been banned?

chezkimo

09-01-2007, 08:56 PM

i think someone should ask the admin team of the reasons why directly. i'm sure they'd be happy to tell us and then if it's a mistake maybe they can get him un-banned or something

hollywoodlou

09-01-2007, 08:58 PM

send them 1 and Ill send the other...I suggest 1MMCM members do the same thing.

hollywoodlou

09-02-2007, 04:38 AM

Alright 1MMCM members/officers. Hynavian has been re-instated with a warning. TY Greg.

If there's any rules that you ARE NOT SURE OF...EMAIL THE MODS for CLARIFICATION. That's an order from your president.

Now back to the original programming regarding Claymore...

pigpie

09-02-2007, 07:48 AM

Why is co-pres banned?? He is quite a nice person,actually you guys are all nice people =)

Captain. I dunno how to send personal message...hee.

Why not we name ourselves as one of the character from Claymore,its more fun that way,like a random name,so like i am a guy,i can get a girls name like Clare or if a girl get a guy name like Raki(Whoever gets his name is damn sad).

It would be great if Rigald gets to kick Raki's *** a little,by the way,i notice some errors in the anime,very small one.

First:Episode 8

Teresa Vs Priscilla

As you guys know,Teresa wasn't in her full uniform when fighting the 4 annoying bitches (as she calls them(Only Noel,Sophia And Irene,but Priscilla IS a *****))so anyway,she isn't wearing her full uniform,meaning her metallic waist Fauld(Skirt),but at one scene when she was about to behead Priscilla while Priscilla is scared and calling for her father,a scene showing Teresa's torso to her legs showed her wearing the Fauld,which later wasn't on her waist again as the episode continues.

Next.
Episode 19

Undines Sword

As avid fans of Claymores,we all know of Undines second sword,but one thing we aren't sure is who it belongs to,well in the episode,Undines' second sword revealed 2 different symbol,first was Helen when the awakened one tried to slice her windpipe with her own sword,and another reveals Clare symbol when she was being manipulated by the awakened one and was trying to fight back,at the moment she grabbed her sword,Clares symbol can be seen.

Small Minute Details but thought i just share with you guys

dynasty916

09-02-2007, 07:56 AM

Hi I just got into claymore like the last week and watched episodes 1-22 and then started reading the manga.

Can anyone tell me why the manga was last updated in June?

pigpie

09-02-2007, 08:05 AM

Hi dynasty.
The main reason was because they wanted to do a proper ending for the anime series and thus concentrated on making a nice finish to the show thus the temporary stop.But there are Extra Scenes that is covering up for the stop in updates

dynasty916

09-02-2007, 08:06 AM

Oohhh so the Extra Scenes are in essence "filler"?

pigpie

09-02-2007, 08:20 AM

Yeah,that is it,fillers,if u make it sound like bleach,an anime with infinite fillers

hollywoodlou

09-02-2007, 08:49 AM

Hi I just got into claymore like the last week and watched episodes 1-22 and then started reading the manga.

Can anyone tell me why the manga was last updated in June?

Simple. Shonen Jump, the original home of Claymore has dropped the series in June 2007. There is a new shounen debuting in November called Jump Square, which is the new shounen not related to Shonen Jump, distribution-wise.

Because Norirhiro Yagi doesn;t have a contract with the current distributor, he has agreed to write 3 EXTRA SCENES only in the meantime as a thank you for the fans, and as a "filler" before November 2's launch of the new manga.

I can post the link to Jump Square but I need to clarify this with the mods before I can post it. I dont want the same thing to happen with co-prez.

chezkimo

09-02-2007, 04:58 PM

pigpie, you said we were nice people XD. and at the top there is a thing that says "read private messages", just follow through there. and if you want to specificly message someone click on thier avatar that goes to thier homepage and if you scan it you should come across something that says "send this person a private message".

by the way, yes! great idea, lets call ourselves claymore names! and lets give ourselves titles. titles of the highest should be like: Power 5 (claymores that are in the top 5 numbers) or abyssal one. second highest of calibur should be like: Single digit claymore or Awakened being. and those of the lowest calibur will just be: claymore or yoma. would do you think?!

and dynasty, welcome. i hope you'll be joining the 1MMCM ~one manga mafia claymore clan~
by the way, i really don't mind claymore fillers, atleast they tell a story of the past so fans can get a deeper insight into things, where as other fillers are proper fillers, meaning they really have no real use to the plot or do anything for the fans.

and is it me or do the best animes only last one series (26 episodes) like ouran high school, outlaw star etc.

by the way, seeing as i'm captain this is my rank: abyssal one

(there should, i think only be 5 power 5s (no duh) and 3 abyssal ones, even though the rankings are equal)

Hynavian

09-02-2007, 06:28 PM

Hi all,

I would like to officially thank everyone of you all for helping me out and to thank Greg for lifting my ban. I would like to specially thank hollywoodlou and chezkimo for all the help and support that they have given me. As the 1MMCM co-prezzy, Im touched to tears <--- tears of joy to find great buddies around.

Hence, lets work together to continue to make the forum a nice place to be in.

Your friendly,
Hynavian
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Ok, back to the discussions.
Chezkimo do u mean that we each pick a character name but we'll receive rank number 5 if we're to pick a claymore as our choice?

@pigpie
Your observation on undine's Claymore is a great one. I totally missed it out though I have read the manga for a few times. I'll re-read the chapters later to check out her sword symbol. Hmmm...since Undine had died and the Claymore was passed on to Deneve, will there be any significance to this? Lets investigate!

hollywoodlou

09-02-2007, 07:26 PM

I would like to officially thank everyone of you all for helping me out and to thank Greg for lifting my ban. I would like to specially thank hollywoodlou and chezkimo for all the help and support that they have given me. As the 1MMCM co-prezzy, Im touched to tears <--- tears of joy to find great buddies around.

As CO-PREZ of 1MMCM (& founder), welcome back...co=prez. That was close...I was going to make Chez the new co=prez.lol

Chezkimo do u mean that we each pick a character name but we'll receive rank number 5 if we're to pick a claymore as our choice?

What?? I love Hollywoodlou. Now I have to change my name to Teresa?? Lame.

Undines Sword

As avid fans of Claymores,we all know of Undines second sword,but one thing we aren't sure is who it belongs to,well in the episode,Undines' second sword revealed 2 different symbol,first was Helen when the awakened one tried to slice her windpipe with her own sword,and another reveals Clare symbol when she was being manipulated by the awakened one and was trying to fight back,at the moment she grabbed her sword,Clares symbol can be seen.

Wow...I gotta read that again. Either Yagi-san was getting lazy on the symbols OR it's a hidden message.

The only thing I noticed about the insignias was that Deneve's symbol is the reverse of Clare's

chezkimo

09-02-2007, 07:46 PM

What?! i could never be a co-prez. i like the title captain too much. good thing then that Hy is back.

and lol, no don't actually change your member name, just as 1MMCM members give ourselves names and ranks. like for example to all 1MMCM members i will be name: Riful / Rank: Abyssal one but i'm not gonna change my member name

also, with the ranks, i was thinking, we have one ranking system for yuma/the evil side. and one ranking system for claymore/good side.
so that's why if you pick a claymore and want to be like of the highest form of rank, then your ranking would be "power 5", which is the name i personally gave to the 5 most powerful claymores. but if you think that's abit unfair as it is of lower equal than the abyssal ones than i guess we could have ranking by numbers. EG teresa Rank: #1. but then what would the ranking system of the yuma be? so i chose do do it like this:

highest rank : "Power 5" / Abyssal ones
(there should only be 5 power 5 and only 3 abyssal ones)
Middle rank : Single digit / awakened being
(there should only be 5 single digits and 7 awakened beings)
"General rank" or lower rank : claymore / yoma
(all others will be given this rank. and so no one has to take on this rank except if all 20 spots have been filled: the 10 middle and higher rank claymore spots and the 10 higher and middle rank yuma spots)

so does that make it more clearer or just more confusing?

hollywoodlou

09-02-2007, 09:49 PM

also, with the ranks, i was thinking, we have one ranking system for yuma/the evil side. and one ranking system for claymore/good side.
so that's why if you pick a claymore and want to be like of the highest form of rank, then your ranking would be "power 5", which is the name i personally gave to the 5 most powerful claymores. but if you think that's abit unfair as it is of lower equal than the abyssal ones than i guess we could have ranking by numbers. EG teresa Rank: #1. but then what would the ranking system of the yuma be? so i chose do do it like this:

OK. because I'm the co-prez, my ranking is the highest at 5, did I get it right? If that's the case, I'm in. Hollywoodlou, co=prez, ranking 5...dig that power. lol

Hynavian

09-03-2007, 02:16 AM

hollywoodlou

09-03-2007, 02:51 AM

Ah ok I understand better now Captain.
I'll be the highest at 5 too right? I'll team up with co-prezzy and we'll eliminate the big one <==== Riful/chezkimo (Just kidding captain).

Ok so we'll just wait for the others to pick their chracters and ranks before we move on. Captain u're in-charge of this ok :)

co-prez buddy Im wondering whether the other claymore that Undinne held has any significance in it. I think we have to re-read the whole manga and start noting all their symbols. One thing for sure, Rafaela and Flora's symbol sure look complicated and have too many strokes.

Re-read the manga just because of symbols?! Groannn. I could've sworn there was a website with the complete Claymore symbols and corresponding Claymore.
I'll re-read that Undine symbol thingy because it intrigues me...I think seriously Yagi-san didn't intentionally do it.

Hynavian

09-03-2007, 03:07 AM

Re-read the manga just because of symbols?! Groannn. I could've sworn there was a website with the complete Claymore symbols and corresponding Claymore.
I'll re-read that Undine symbol thingy because it intrigues me...I think seriously Yagi-san didn't intentionally do it.

Oh I think so too. I think he ran out of symbols for the Claymore. Imagine having to not only come out with the plot but also with the symbols too. Btw, anyone agree that Ophelia's symbol is fitting and unique for her? Its a big circle with a line cutting across it. The circle definitely reminds me of her name "Ooophelia"

pigpie

09-03-2007, 03:24 AM

Good to have you back co-president.

True about what you say,about Ophelia,but than who will be called Ophelia in this forum?She is sick in the head.

Undine double sword:

I think the main reason Yagi didn't put a proper symbol is because he didn't want to go into how Undine got her second sword too deeply.

Can I be Miria(No.6) or Deneve(No.15)? Or is it meant for higher ranking members??

hollywoodlou

09-03-2007, 03:37 AM

Oh I think so too. I think he ran out of symbols for the Claymore. Imagine having to not only come out with the plot but also with the symbols too. Btw, anyone agree that Ophelia's symbol is fitting and unique for her? Its a big circle with a line cutting across it. The circle definitely reminds me of her name "Ooophelia"

Yup, with all the great Claymore characters he's killed off all those years, he's probably running out of stick symbols.

The Ophelia symbol? It's unique alright...especially for a crazed out sociopath.

Here's something I deducted: every # 4 is either CRAZY or mentally unstable (miata) . Is it because of the kanji symbol for #4 is also "death", an unlucky #...

Undine double sword:

I think the main reason Yagi didn't put a proper symbol is because he didn't want to go into how Undine got her second sword too deeply.

Can I be Miria(No.6) or Deneve(No.15)? Or is it meant for higher ranking members??

You could say that about the Undine backstory...I don't care who she was who died because Undine died as well, bringing the secret with her to the grave. It's just one of those questions in the same mold as
...."who was actually #3: Noel OR Sophia."

You can be anyone you want to be PP. Just dont take Teresa (mine) OR the Abyssals...those are reserved for the co-prezzies.

pigpie

09-03-2007, 04:02 AM

hollywoodlou

09-03-2007, 04:29 AM

Okay.Than Miria is great.But president,the Abbysal ones are stronger than Teresa aren't they.

I mean in her Claymore form,if she awakened she will definitely be stronger than them as stated by Teresas' handler than Teresa is the strongest warrior they ever created,well aside from Priscilla,who is definitely stronger.

Yes, the Abyssals WOULD be stronger than Teresa's Claymore form but the way she dispatched of Rosemary (in awakened form) using NO increase in yoki powers during 95% of the battle is impressive. Could she take on Riful and succeed? YES. Why? Teresa (before Clare turned her into wuss) was called a "monster" more than 2x. She's a killer and very smart, MORE cunning than Riful. Her yoki power alone W/O any yoki increase in comparable to none...if we're talking about pre-Clare Teresa.

f Clare took Teresas' flesh and blood,it means that Clare has become Teresa no.2 right?,only not as strong,so does it mean that Clares awakened form is how Teresa will look like,roughly,if Teresa ever awakens,because Teresa is good at everything,she will have improved speed,Clares Awakened Leg,Quicksword,not as quick as Irenes,Clares Awakened left hand.Notice that her right hand is actually different from her left once awakened because that is how Irenes hand will look like once awake

We already saw Clare's awakened form in scene 60. LOTS of blades, which could be a manifestation of her "quicksword & flashsword" techniques. If Teresa awakend, her brute force alone SHOULD wipe out any Abyssal.

So why is Jean represented by a butterfly form,does it mean she will drill with her wings??

DARN! :lol:OK we were all talking about this exactly on the FIRST CLAYMORE THREAD w/ HY, Chez, darthalvarez, nhy etc a few months back...before you joined.

Her "awakened being" attack should be wings full of blades that cuts through her opponents, not in the drill technique but projectiles that drill through her opponents, BUT NOT using her body as a drill.
I think it 's a lame Awakened form...butterfly sheesh.

Her drill attack isn't even that effective...by the time she "winds up" to #5, everyone around her would be dead. Charging in a direct manner will get you killed...that' why she deserved to get skewered by Rigald.

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ON ANOTHER NOTE: Guys, we're heading into page 20...that means Claymore #3 thread is about to open. Our post numbers s are comparable to Ichigo, Air Gear and...prince of tennis?!? lol

pigpie

09-03-2007, 05:33 AM

Teresa turning into a wuss,that was funny.

Maybe Jean is just a decoration,completely useless,to be slaughtered and remove her wings to make a dress.

Claymore uniform are skin tight right,so do the male claymores wear skin tight one too,than they will walk around having gay pride day.

I have been thinking and am wondering if Alicia and Beth know how to use their Claymore or not,i mean they are both social retards,and Beth is using only her mind will Alicia is using her body,no swords involved.One Mind One Body,wow they are like one person.

hollywoodlou

09-03-2007, 06:04 AM

Teresa turning into a wuss,that was funny.

It's funny BUt true. Irene already explained to Clare in Fit for Battle arc that the reason why she didn't kill Pris when she had the chance because Clare turned her into a wimp. Now look what happened to my Queen. She's dead. F'n Priscilla.

Claymore uniform are skin tight right,so do the male claymores wear skin tight one too,than they will walk around having gay pride day.

On another forum I;m a mbr of...I said the same thing. If Raki becomes a Claymore, think Noel. (shudder) The first reason why Claymore is popular with guys because of the hot chicks in tight unis, that's the primary reason. If they were dudes, Id rip my eyes out.

I have been thinking and am wondering if Alicia and Beth know how to use their Claymore or not,i mean they are both social retards,and Beth is using only her mind will Alicia is using her body,no swords involved.One Mind One Body,wow they are like one person.

They are not "social retards". Read the ending of the Witch's Maw. One of the org was actually talking to Alicia about killing Riful and her chances. Alicia is COHERENT enough to construct sentences..and she's realistic as well. Alicia on Riful:

"I will damage her (Riful) by 50% but i will die". this was when Alicia wasn;t even 100% complete.

Besides, they didn't reach # 1 and # 2 JUST by soul link.

pigpie

09-03-2007, 07:17 AM

hollywoodlou

09-03-2007, 07:59 AM

No no...President,u got me wrong,i mean by social retards is they don't mix well with other people other than those they were with since they have hardly any intellect.They are mainly trained in battling so any other stuff like interacting with people outside the org is a new thing to them.

But i doubt the twins will appear physically on the anime,miria only introduced them to the 3 girls only(Helen Deneve Clare),but when Riful appeared in the Witch Maws Part 3 ending part,she didn't say anything about her powers being measured by someone(Alicia).

OH..you mean peeps who cant interact socially? Gotcha. Like nerds lol. They have the intellect, however. judging by your 1st sentence "they have hardly any intellect"
It was shown I repeat @ the end of the Witch's Maw arc, after riful left galatea, jean and clare alone in the rubble. I'm too lazy to type the conversation but Alicia was conversing coherently with an ORg higher-up.
I know you're thinking that Rubel explained they were trained to battle, noting else but that conversation alone showed they can interact with other Claymores...AS LONG AS NOT AFTER SOUL LINK.

When you mean "she", r u talking about Riful mentioning Alicia's existence in the Witch's Maw arc? Of course not. I didn't event think she was aware on an "Alicia", until scene 72. I hope I interpreted your last paragraph correctly.

pigpie

09-03-2007, 08:13 AM

Riful isn't aware of Alicia's existence is true but she knew the org was creating something.I always misintepreted what you said about alicia at scene 72,i thought you were referring to Priscilla.

In that case is Alicia able to kill Priscilla?

hollywoodlou

09-03-2007, 08:44 AM

In that case is Alicia able to kill Priscilla?

VERY small chance. Because anything's possible. Ok...Alicia's got her hands full based on this equation...

The logic is this: IF Riful admits that she CANT kill Prissy (Pris kills Riful), and Alicia at 100% can DESTROY Riful, ergo: ....u know the answer. A=B, B=C: C=A.;)

On the other hand, if Pris's only power is tentacles and flying with a sword, it should be 50/50 with Alicia because Alicia's an "Abyssal" as well.

As long as Pris is dumb enough NOT to notice Beth being spaced out.

pigpie

09-03-2007, 08:54 AM

Priscilla looks a bit dumb now,i think she excels at everything,Priscilla is like not just an Abyssal,she has surpassed that,according to Riful,Priscilla defeated Isley.I wonder how Luciellea
fought Isley,by becoming a giant mouth and eating Isley,other that her constnt scratching with her claw,her ability is pretty crap actually,multiple mouth,its weird how the mouth connects to her stomach,scientifically of course,or maybe it is link to a magic portal with infinite space.

hollywoodlou

09-03-2007, 09:11 AM

Yup. Lucy sucks as an Abyssal. I love women who can do things with their mouths :D but if that's the only ability she has, she deserves to get her *** kicked.
I'm just surprised that Isley was as tired as she was. Throwing "live" arrows shouldn't be that difficult. lol

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PAGE 20! Every 20 pages...1M closes the thread and out comes Claymore 3 thread.

pigpie

09-03-2007, 09:15 AM

Hynavian

09-03-2007, 10:09 AM

She is not deserving of the title as an Abbysal one,I somehow feels Rafaella is stronger than Luciella after looking at Luciella performance as an Abbysal one and Rafaella as a Claymore

Does anyone else think that Clarice(No.47 new arc) looks similar to Hilda(Mirias BFF Old No.6)

Oh now that you mentioned....yes there's some resemblance (Clarice<--->Hilda) but too bad Clariceis deemed as "a failure" by the organisation. I disagree with regards to the Rafaela thing. Though Rafaela is deemed as an equal to Luciela (by the organisation) that does not mean that she is better. Her willingness to take the number 2 spot and to let her sister take the number 1 spot shows that she's not the "competitive" type of person. Lets say if you pit them in a fight 1 vs 1, Rafaela might lose as she seems to have every intention to lose to Luciela.

Oh yeah page 20!

pigpie

09-03-2007, 10:27 AM

Means Rafaella is a good younger sister.

Arhhh...i am interested in their story,they are like the only sisters who have intelligence as compared to Alicia and Beth who doesn't express any emotions.

nhy390

09-03-2007, 10:40 AM

Hey everyone! Finally back again! You guys never let me get any work done with all your writting! It has taken me ages to read through all your stuff... good stuff though!!! Welcome to Pigpie and Dynasty! You have been with us for a shorter time than me and already you have probably posted twice as much as I have pigpie!!! I am humbled in your presence :)

Co-prez Hynavian: When I read you were banned I was seriously worried that that was the last we would see of you! It was a cliff hanger, similar to Claymore, reading on to see if you would come back!!! I hope you have sorted everything out and this little misunderstanding is well and proper forgotten! Welcome back, and don't leave again :D

I have a few things to mention. First of all, you passed through the awakened being shapes again, and I think that the shape Clare got was excellent and very fitting! I actually hope we get to see more of it!

As for Beth and her sister: I seriously doubt they should be underestimated in their fighting skills! You dont become the top 2 by sitting around playing mind games. Im sure they can do some serious a**-whooping on their own... and I am sure we will soon!

I was thinking (I know, I know, it is amazing, and it did hurt!) with the whole idea of bringing down the org... Is it really a good idea? Who is going to keep the Yoma in check if the org is gone? THere are not enough of the 7 to keep a whole continent free, and the abyssal ones and awakened beings would be able to run havock and turn the continent into a huge McDonald's!!! McVillage followed by a slurp or McGuts! What do you think?