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Raijuu
08-23-2007, 01:21 PM
Keep you conversation here...
Spade
08-23-2007, 04:25 PM
Just read chapter 185 and...
it looks like F-O stops scanlating. Really sad, their releases were always great AND fast. The reasons are understandable though, stupid noobs complaining about stuff they get for free. :mad:
And although I was spoiled, that last page almost made me piss my pants. Awesome shot. If I recall correctly I was one of the first guys saying he would return. *takes all the credits available*
death incarnate
08-23-2007, 05:31 PM
i really hate that f-o isn't doing it anymore. i wonder if anyone else will pick it up. hopefully aquastar has been secretly doing scanlations and plans to send them out.
SKATEateer
08-23-2007, 07:23 PM
woops did not notice one negima 3 was already started
hahah
moneybob
08-23-2007, 10:04 PM
where can i find chapter 185...???? and when are the going to add more of the chapters?? Man im getting eager to find out whats going to happen.
darthalvarez
08-23-2007, 10:29 PM
is there a set time for the release?
jenkem
08-23-2007, 11:38 PM
what did I miss in the last chapters?
aquielleoz
08-24-2007, 07:11 AM
o.O it's great that you people have read the last chapter...
but where did you read it? is it on onemanga? (and I just stupidly missed it?)
Spade
08-24-2007, 07:53 AM
I got it on mangaupdates.com
FlyMolo
08-24-2007, 08:29 AM
I posted chapter 185 on the old 'Negima' thread, here (http://anip.homeunix.com:81/onlinereading/Mahou%20Sensei%20Negima/Mahou%20Sensei%20Negima%20vol%20019/Mahou_Sensei_Negima_v19_c185%20[F-O]%20[D13BE37E]/index.php?margin=1280)it is again.
death incarnate
08-24-2007, 01:18 PM
wow, i feel sorry for anya. but it's going to get exciting (hopefully) from here on out. and fate's reappearance i wonder how negi will measure up to it.
aquielleoz
08-24-2007, 02:35 PM
wah! spoiler!
Please use spoiler tags [spoiler]
What's Fate going to do in the Magic Country?
man now i cant wait to c the next chapter i so excited. i really want to know now what could happen. i really wish that the chapters come out more daily and faster too. it takes so long
Alberio
08-24-2007, 11:19 PM
Well new chap is out, what did everyone think?
now i got me wonder what could fate be here for and this time will he be an ally or foe with negi. i so look foward to the next chapter of negima even now
SKATEateer
08-25-2007, 12:59 AM
[spoiler] the tags work? haha yay
SKATEateer
08-25-2007, 01:00 AM
[spoiler ] that ddnt work.,..
Alberio
08-25-2007, 01:05 AM
Type [spoiler] [ /spoiler] without the space with the backslash...
I can't beleive it but I actually feel sorry for Anya with her mom in her condition, maybe they will make her out to be a better person later..
SKATEateer
08-25-2007, 01:10 AM
ok nvm
nope doesnt work...
darthalvarez
08-25-2007, 01:28 AM
well watch those girls get lucky and end up with Negi's group, lol
asanta
08-25-2007, 08:05 AM
so that guy at the end was the water guy yeh? the uber strong dude!
holy ****.......
darthalvarez
08-25-2007, 08:15 AM
yea thats him but after all that training Negi has been through, he should be a much better match for him now
OHNOES
08-25-2007, 08:43 AM
Still not a match though =D
I have been thinking but that would be too easy. Couldn't Asuna just cancel the magic on the petrified guys xD
If they will have a match.... I hope Negi and friends wins!!!
asanta
08-25-2007, 02:41 PM
i dont think Asuna can petrify that.... because thats when she's hit with the magic. in this case, the magic has already been cast, set, and damaged.
do you recon theyre dead or in a massive coma?????
and i still recon that negi and friends are no match for the uber guy.
its like (those who know eyeshield 21.) Negi is sena, and Fate(strong dude) is like Shin (but more mean)
Fate just seems so scary
tsunade666
08-25-2007, 02:44 PM
Nah
for now theres another mahou sensei thread for me being absent only in the forum for 2 days and the 2nd now is the 3rd
back to the topic
I think there will be no battle for now if their will be fate will be in disadvantage yeh his strong before negi is just no match but for now maybe negi stand a chance and with his partner it spell doom for fate unless fate have his partners with him but I doubt that but we never know
Just a small theory maybe will fate join negi like kotaro first as an enemy then a friend
in the trip to the magic country the old man said that one of nagi's partner will be waiting I think its the guy with huge sword and an event may occur that will lead them to join forces that what I think of the
aquielleoz
08-25-2007, 02:48 PM
Not dead. Or they won't bother to keep the dead statues.
Not coma. The body still maintains the primary functions except the cognitive (brain - thinking, making decisions, etc.) ones.
Frozen time. When they un-petrify they will have the same fresh and vivid memories from that time. They may even cast spells upon release!
True. But Fate didn't exclude the possibility that Negi will catch up with him. :D
aquielleoz
08-25-2007, 02:50 PM
or Nagi's partner is Fate! (I can't verify this... sorry) (This would also include the part that Fate didn't age since 10 years ago... so it's pretty much on shaky ground (of evidence))
tsunade666
08-25-2007, 02:53 PM
nah its a pic 25 yrs ago its probably takamichi if its fate he is just to young for it
tsunade666
08-25-2007, 02:54 PM
and yeh he will surely catch up to fate his master is the eva all mighty
hehehe
Green Van
08-25-2007, 06:27 PM
I got to say - I enjoy reading Negima series for quite some time! The story had been great so far and now up on chapter 185, can't wait for next one heh. Every time a new volume book come out - I brought it to re-read again.
Kudos to all the people who did all the scandating - they deserve credits for the work and time put in for all fans to keep up on new updates.
Yeah, I wonder who the mysterious fellow in the end of chapter 185 - is he a friend of foe to Negi and gang?
moneybob
08-25-2007, 06:28 PM
So will there be anymore chapters of negima on onemanga? Since F-O isnt doing anymore scanlations? Man I hate ppl the complain, its free stuff...btw...anywho i wonder how chapter 185 is going to turn out....need more.... o and to the post above me. The fellow is the white haired boy they fought earlier in the manga... when the had to save konoka
SKATEateer
08-25-2007, 06:34 PM
there will
i think another scanlation group was doin negima anyways
edna777
08-25-2007, 06:42 PM
wait...no more scanlations of MSN?!! oh no!
Spade
08-25-2007, 06:45 PM
Yeah, I wonder who the mysterious fellow in the end of chapter 185 - is he a friend of foe to Negi and gang?
That "mysterious fellow" is Fate Averruncus. The guy who appeared in Kyoto waaaaay back. He totally pwned Negi until Eva came to help him out.
i could find his name in the manga, but i do know he strong. he beat both asuna, setsuna, and negi in the first place. he uses both western and eastern magic. for western he uses petrification (turning to stone) and water spells and for eastern he summons demons. he one of the toughest people negi faced. in the next chapter i hope to see if he wants a rematch just like kotaro
shugo608
08-26-2007, 12:17 AM
after i read all the posts, yea, cho. it sucks that no more scans are coming from him now, cho. hopefully another will take place, cho.
tsunade666
08-26-2007, 12:28 PM
rematch I don't think so the their current place is not the right for a rematch and I think fate os different from kotaro in characteristics
to bad F-O is not going to scan anymore and I hope fate will going to be a ally his cool and strong and who could be the other ally of nagi that is waiting for them the only one left is the one with huge sword
al is in mahora
the dad of konoka is the leader of the east school
takamichi is in mahora also
takamichi's master probably dead already based in the manga where asuna cry he looks dead back then
the only left is the one with huge sword of did I miss someone from the crimson wings
aquielleoz
08-26-2007, 01:06 PM
the child... I still don't think it's Takamichi...
Magister Magi 13
08-26-2007, 04:16 PM
I really wander who will pick up after 'F-O', i hope it will be soon because i don't wanna miss a chapter!
Spade
08-26-2007, 09:37 PM
Well, Aquastar (a.k.a. [AQS]) also scanlates Negima but they seem to be slower than F-O. People say they're better than F-O, although I don't care about differences. It's the same story and people who complain about the quality not being top-notch are scum.
We'll never have to live without scans, don't worry. :eban:
kaverinebonhands
08-27-2007, 01:33 AM
Actually the water spells that Fate uses are Eastern mafic, the SUIYOJIN spell that summons the grasping hands made of water, is actually a mantra to summon a water sprite that controls water.
Fate's western magic was earth magic. petrification is a sub-category of earth magic.
I can't read half the writing in the double pages of ch 185, the resolution is too small.
I am under the impression taht Yuna, Makie and the others will be the one group in ten years to successfully stumble into the magic world. Otherwise Donet would not have even mentioned that it is even possible, unless it was going to actually happen.
lol. Ku Fei and Kotaro are eating Anya's sandwiches.
I think the boy in the photo IS Takamichi, he looks about ten and the photo was from twenty years ago, Takamichi is thirty years old.
Ten plus twenty equals thirty. Takamichi is the right age.
I think the "friend of Nagi's" is the big guy.
Tsunade666, if you can't get MUGEN pm me your e-mail address and I'll send you my copy, along with any characters that I have that you want, particularly Setsuna, who is teeth-grindingly hard to track down.
Setsuna Sakurazaki, Naruto, Sephiroth, Wolverine, "Chad" Yasutora Sado from BLEACH, Subzero from Mortal Kombat are the good characters I downloaded. I have a few more but they suck.
tsunade666
08-27-2007, 06:52 AM
well aquastar sure is slow I think their group is only ch175 F-O sure is a huge loss for the negima fans they scan and translate the chapter weekly
and about yuna they are lost totally but probably not for 10 years its to long maybe they will ended in the gate in front of the village and the friend yeh the only one left is the big guy with sword we still didn't know what is his name
kaverinebonhands
08-27-2007, 07:14 AM
Donet didn't say that people get lost for ten years, she said only one person in a ten year period ever manages to make it through, the rest just end up back where they started in a daze. Nowhere did she actually say that it takes a long time to find their way out.
tsunade666
08-27-2007, 07:23 AM
she only says it will just took a couple of hours to escape the mist and getting out
just it can occur that someone will get lost for 10 years
kaverinebonhands
08-27-2007, 07:32 AM
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6246/privatelesson2spritesre9.th.png (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=privatelesson2spritesre9.png)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4360/privatelesson2spritesbem8.th.png (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=privatelesson2spritesbem8.png)
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8993/privatelesson2spritescba4.th.png (http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=privatelesson2spritescba4.png)
Sprites ripped from private lesson 2
Negi, Chamo, Asuna, Evangeline, Yue, Sayo
Konoka, Headmaster, Setsuna, Nodoka, Satomi, Chachamaru, Haruna, Misora, Chisame, Madoka,
Sakurako, Kazumi
Akira, Ayaka, Zazie, Ako, Kaede
tsunade666
08-27-2007, 07:36 AM
kevirinebonhands I already send e-mail
to you jiraiya_anbu@yahoo.com
tsunade666
08-27-2007, 07:36 AM
about the mugen
kaverinebonhands
08-27-2007, 07:52 AM
Did you get my email?
tsunade666
08-27-2007, 08:21 AM
not yet no single new e-mail
asanta
08-27-2007, 08:30 AM
hey.....if its one of Negi's friends..... how could he be a companion of Nagi. Nagi supposedly went missing 10 years ago, which is when Negi was born. I dont remember Negi saying he met the crimson wings, since it was eva who told Negi who Crimson wings were..... get me??
Anywho, do you reckon Asuna might remember somethings in the past and then somehow relate them to Negi and tell him????
Spade
08-27-2007, 08:50 AM
I'm sure Asuna will remember something. Actually, she already did but forgot again right after. That was probably a hint.
tsunade666
08-27-2007, 08:59 AM
I wish that they clarify the true identity of asuna
asanta
08-27-2007, 09:28 AM
AGREED!!!! though they spend alot of time around Asuna's personality, feelings, they never explore who she is and about her magic!!!
tsunade666
08-27-2007, 09:47 AM
yes its still a mystery for her nullifying magic and about her family its her blood line is royal
royal princess of dusk
and about negi what about his mother no news their are tons of question with no clarification in the story
tsunade666
08-27-2007, 09:48 AM
though I like asuna's personality than negi he is so serius about things making him stupid
jakerose20
08-27-2007, 02:33 PM
About nagis friend whos waiting for them the ones left are:
1the big guy with the sword
2the little boy with the with hairs. Its not!!! takamchi you can see him and littel boy on picter at the same time(the picter when they first tell the name of nagis party)
3the little witch with the bath like animal (you can see her in asunas past)
I love asunas englisch
I love harunas storys
jakerose20
08-27-2007, 02:38 PM
I think negi and asuna have the same mother.
Ilove asunas englisch i love
Ilove harunas storys
SKATEateer
08-27-2007, 05:04 PM
they do not hve the same mother!!!
thats blasphemy!
Spade
08-27-2007, 08:21 PM
Maybe Asuna IS Negi's mother... just to explain why she looks like his sister.
And don't say it's impossible, we're talking about magic people here and Asuna is without any doubt mysterious. :lol:
SKATEateer
08-27-2007, 08:42 PM
its still blasphemy
it wouldnt make sense to make her the mother
when shes only 4 years older
hahaha
and on top of that
she cant be his sister either
i think there was a part where it says she was found by nagi so she cant be related to him
shes the seed of a demon
kaverinebonhands
08-28-2007, 01:13 AM
That guy on the far right of the crimson wing photo is not Takamichi.
Takamichi was only a teenager in the flashbacks of Asuna.
the photo shows big guy at back, and in front, Alberio, Nagi, boy, Eishun and the guy who looks like Tak. who's name is Gateau Kagura Vandenburg. Nekane is not Negi's sister Oneechan was his nickname for her, funny that they seem to speak with Japanese honorifics, in England and Wales, isn't it? Nekane is his Cousin.
I wonder if Gateau's middle name has something to do with the fake last name Takamichi gave Asuna: Kagurazaka.
Tsunade, I accidentally sent the email to the non-existant jiraiy_anbu@Yahoo.NET. I put .net instead of .com.
OOPS! :p
FlyMolo
08-28-2007, 08:05 AM
Asuna isnt Negi's Mom. Asuna being a mother would be counterproductive to Negi getti-... er... anyways.
Shes not his Mom, and if she was, Nagi would be a pedofile, have you not noticed how old she looks in those flashbacks?
aquielleoz
08-28-2007, 08:34 AM
That took long enough...
Break it up people! You already know Asuna is not Negi's mother or sister. Otherwise, I refuse to insult you kind people....
Hmm... it is not really wierd if Negi refers to Nekane as "Sister" (instead of Onee-chan/Onee-san) - or some other word which roughly means sister. But then again, where would you find an English person named Nekane. She'd have to be Japanese as well! The same goes for Nagi and Negi (and maybe Takane D. Goodman). If she WAS Japanese and related to Negi I wouldn't be surprised how Negi or Nagi got Japanese sounding names.
On the issue of Japanese language, I do believe Nekane readily understood Negi's students. Then we'll have Anya as well (who apparently knows enough Japanese to make friends with Nodoka and Yue and be understood by Asuna).
But then again, they could have had laguage translation magic...
Who cares about their surnames? You can be any nationality you want/can/are without reference to your surname/last name. Nekane could have had an English gent for a father as well, if you'd like.
jakerose20
08-28-2007, 11:40 AM
asuna is defentily not negis mother !
That woud not work from the age.
jakerose20
08-28-2007, 11:52 AM
is ther some one who new the menig of asuans name?
Like
Yue=Moon
Hasekawe=doc
nodoka=peace calm
I love asuans englisch
I love harunas storys
tsunade666
08-29-2007, 11:36 AM
well maybe they rescue asuna 10yrs before and that pic is taken 25 yrs ago it is possible that that is takamichi but when I zoom it now that I put my mind into it it resembles fate but its impossible also if its him eva will know I bet its takamichi
and Spade what in the world are you thinking asuna as mother of negi yap its magic but a it will be insane nagi with a 4-5 year old child makes me creeps just thinking about it then again its magic but I'm sure its not his mother and not HIS SISTER either that is both highly impossible to happen
and about the mugen
kaverinebonhands have you already resent it?
death incarnate
08-29-2007, 12:44 PM
why can't nekane be negi's sister? i mean besides the whole hair thing you really don't know. but i believe nekane is negi's sister because when nagi rescued negi he asked "you intend to protect your sister?"
SKATEateer
08-29-2007, 06:12 PM
wait where was it proven that nekane isnt negis sister
kaverinebonhands
08-30-2007, 03:07 AM
In several cases, it is said that Nekane is actually Negi's Cousin, her father is Negi's uncle, who was petrified as shown in the flashback in volume 8 just prior to the fight against the demon Count. Negi lived alone in a guest house belonging to his uncle in a village in Wales, where Nekane would visit him during holiday breaks, before returning to the magic academy. Negi moved to Wales to live with her after the destruction of their home town and the petrification of everyone in it except Nekane and Negi.
Tsunade666, I'll resend it now.
Magister Magi 13
08-31-2007, 03:02 PM
About Nekane father, I don't believe Stan (Negi called him Ojii-chan, which should give you enough hint for those who don't know which person i was talking about) is her father though...
Speaking of him one thing bugs me, how did Yue and Nodoka use the bottle (that Stan used once) to seal the the Slime Sisters/Trio, they didn't have magic power at that time, did they? (For those that don't know what I'm saying, please look back into volume 8)
I think the negima series is starting to have way too many long conversations its starting to get hard to seriosly get through a book
SKATEateer
08-31-2007, 10:51 PM
i really dont think the negima series is gettin boring
im still interested
what parts were too dull for you hito
darthalvarez
08-31-2007, 11:34 PM
conversations are good...it means development all stories need it or they fail...
and its not boring, we all just want to see some action...in any phrasing of the word......*cough*...
Alberio
08-31-2007, 11:36 PM
I can probably already guess, but here are some of mine, the most common.
Repeatitiveness
A bit scattered now
Too many "exceptions"
I can name some others, but I want to see if the rest of my opinions match with other users.
I also think that the development isn't going quite well, as per the action, I do want some more, but not so much ecchi, its as if Ken has been avoiding moving on with the story sometimes.
dago2682
09-01-2007, 08:43 AM
I hope somebody else continues scanlating Negima! because is one of my favorite mangas and where i live nobody sells it.
SKATEateer
09-01-2007, 04:57 PM
i ddnt notice too much repetition..
probably cause the humor in it distracted me
the ecchi parts are funny
unless your a girl
then maybe you dont find as much humor in it
what do you mean by too many "exceptions" alberio
moneybob
09-02-2007, 02:57 AM
I guess i have to find a manga shop or buy the volumes online or something. If one manga isnt scanlating negima. They will probally find someone to do it though, so no worries.
Alberio
09-02-2007, 03:10 AM
i ddnt notice too much repetition..
probably cause the humor in it distracted me
the ecchi parts are funny
unless your a girl
then maybe you dont find as much humor in it
what do you mean by too many "exceptions" alberio
This arc would have been far less agitating without all those noisy, screechy non-magical members of his class, and at this rate he'll have the entire class using magic or at least be aware of it. Sure, they add some comedy, but their comedy just distracts from the plot and ends up having half of a chapter that would normally have good addition to the plot delayed for another chapter. They hinder Negi's plans and give him "support" when its not needed since he has plenty enough already.
Don't worry about it being scanlated, someone is probably already on it, and there is another group I think released it I've seen.
dont get me wrong i do like the stories but thier are alot of parts where the characters talk too much like when hakase was talkin about robot love or when starts talkin about a relationship with negi it gets too long too hold my interest
Spade
09-02-2007, 10:03 AM
I guess i have to find a manga shop or buy the volumes online or something. If one manga isnt scanlating negima. They will probally find someone to do it though, so no worries.
OneManga doesn't scanlate anything. Never did and never will. :lol:
kaverinebonhands
09-03-2007, 01:32 AM
I never said Stan was Nekane's father' Nekane's father was one of the other statues, where he is facing to the left with his staff out-stretched
Stan is just an old man who Negi called Ojii-chan which is like calling him grandpa, uncle is ojito and grandfather is ojiito with two i's.
Stan is no relation to Negi or Nekane at all, he's just an old man who cares about them and promised Nagi that he'd watch over them, and is angry at the Thousand Master for going away and leaving his son all alone.
Here's an alternate theory for Fate, who people think is some sort of construct, maybe the real Fate is a human, but the Fate that participated in the events in Kyoto, used water to create a sort of fake body to house his mind inside of, so as not to expose his real body to danger, kind of like Alberio at the Budokai, as Fate's body didn't seem to have suffered any harm even after being punched in the face by Negi and Mega-Vampire-Punched by Evangeline.
kaverinebonhands
09-03-2007, 07:52 AM
What this forum needs is a topic dedicated to the magic used in negima, It'd be great to see what kind of spells that the regulars could come up with.
Spells in ancient greek or latin and their translation and effects.
I used a website that translates into latin to make up a couple, including alternative "cantus" spells, a demon summoning/binding spell, an attack spell that combines four elements into a tornado-like effect and a spell that creates an armour-like coating of earth and stone to protect the caster.
I'd post them here but I don't have time today, sorry! :p
Would you rather be
Western Mage (Magister Magi)
Eastern Mage (Onmyouji)
Ninja
Martial Artist (Chinese Kenpo, Karate, Kendo or other)
Shinmei Ryu Swordsman/woman
Sniper (like Mana)
Combat mage = Western Mage/ Martial Artist
Fate is Western Mage/ Eastern Mage
Kotaro is Ninja/ Eastern Mage
Setsuna is Shinmei Ryu/ Eastern Mage
tsunade666
09-03-2007, 01:27 PM
combat mage :D
and thank god someone answer my prayer the chapter 186 of negima is already out in mangaupdates thank you 4chan your a saint for cont. the manga translation
it give me again the electric shock needed for the week of no magical manga to read it makes me happy again and its worth to online again I wish you will cont if you can read this!
SKATEateer
09-03-2007, 08:13 PM
If i had the choice itd be
ninja/west mage/ east mage
ultimate combo there
Alberio
09-03-2007, 08:59 PM
I'd probably choose Sniper or Shinmei Ryu Swordsman, possibly both/ Western Mage because it seems the most balanced, or martial arts replacing one of those.
I know what you mean tsunade, I'm so glad someone is already on the next release.
SKATEateer
09-03-2007, 09:04 PM
what does alberio mean
is it a character or some name. that had me confused
wait wheres the new release at?
Alberio
09-03-2007, 09:07 PM
They are on the next chapter, it hasn't been released yet according to what I just read from tsunade's post.
My name? Go here http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=1678&page=5
SKATEateer
09-03-2007, 09:19 PM
ahh
oh
i misunderstood
now.. scanlators need to get to love ru sooner or later
Darkreaper70
09-03-2007, 09:22 PM
woo chap 186 is coming out but i dunno if its gonna be translated.
negima comes out every wednesday in japan
SKATEateer
09-03-2007, 09:30 PM
ohh.. i see
hah i read your anime list dark
good list
Darkreaper70
09-03-2007, 09:43 PM
oh yea chapter 186 is translated and its out heres the link if you want to dl it and read http://rapidshare.com/files/53056269/Negima__186.rar.html btw, thats the end of volume 20 so its the start of a new volume now ^^
SKATEateer
09-03-2007, 10:06 PM
wait 186 is the end of volume 20? ok
thats cool
Darkreaper70
09-03-2007, 11:53 PM
yea its the start of volume 21 now also
*spoiler*
negi gets killed :|||
SKATEateer
09-03-2007, 11:58 PM
nooooo
put the spoiler in the box next time haha
do you know how to?
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 12:04 AM
no lol :$
shadow shuriken95
09-04-2007, 12:08 AM
Is this series over? Sorry, I'm not that far into it.
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 12:10 AM
no its not they are just starting a new arc
SKATEateer
09-04-2007, 12:15 AM
ok well
its like this
[spoiler] then put [/ spoiler]
except no spaces
so try it out dark
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 12:17 AM
yea i jus found that out lol so i changed it so only skate saw it :$
SKATEateer
09-04-2007, 12:18 AM
ahh congrats
haha
i forgive you
kaverinebonhands
09-04-2007, 01:20 AM
How can chapter 186 be the end of volume twenty?
up till now the volumes have all been 10 chapters long:
15 = 130 to 139
16 = 140 to 149
17 = 150 to 159
18 = 160 to 169
19 = 170 to 179
20 = 180 to 189
21 therefore should start with chapter 190.
I would be a western mage.
what need is there to combine mage with a ranged class like sniper?
mage combos best with a melee class, to balance out the weaknesses of spellcasting, but a pure mage would be able to concentrate on power spells.
here is a list of combat spells used by Negi and the thousand master
in spoiler boxes to reduce post space
undecim spiritualis fulgurientes, sagitta magica, serius fulguriens
septendecim spiritualis lucis, sagitta magica, convergentia lucis
undetriginta spiritualis aeriales, sagitta magica, serius aeriales aer capturae
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vertātur tempestās vēris, nōbis prōtectiōnem aēriālem. FLĀNS PARIĒS VENTĪ VERTENTIS
O storm of spring turn, Bring an aerial protection upon us, Blow forth spiralling wall of wind
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Flans Exarmatio
blowing disarm
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Flet une vente, Flans saltatio Pulverea
Blow one gust of wind, Blow forth dancing dust
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used by negi and thousand master
veniant spīritūs āēriālēs fulgurientēs, cum fulgurātiōne flet tempestās austrīna. JOVIS TEMPESTĀS FULGURIĒNS
Come wind spirit's that hurl thunder, O thunder blow with the southern storm! JUPITER'S TEMPEST OF THUNDER
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Unus Fulgor Concidens Noctem, In Mea Manu Ens Inimicum Edate
A stream of light to cut through the darkness, spring forth from my hand and throttle my enemy
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EVOCATIO VALCYRIARUM, CONTUBERNALIA GLADIARIA. (age capiant.)"
I summon the Valkyries, Sword-wielding partners (please capture)
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Ēvocātiō Spīrituālis de Septendecim Valcyriīs Mortiferīs
I summon 17 spirits of deadly Valkyries
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used by negi and thousand master
Kenotētos Astrapsatō de Temetō! Dios Tukos
Come from the void, Hurl down thy thunder and Cut forth! Axe of Lightning
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used only by thousand master
hekatontakis kai khiliakis astrapsato
hurl down lightning one hundred times and even one thousand times
Khiliarkhou astrape
thousand thunderbolts
SPELLS I MADE UP
phasmatis lucis penetro meus vesica
stipo quod enhance meus vires
tribuo mihi ops expello malum
ensis sanctimonia
spirits of light enter my blade
gather around and enhance my strength
grant power to banish evil
sword of purity
weapon enhancing spell for slaying of demons
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Patefacio porta of inritus
suo lucis ut obscurum quod duco meus inimicus
expulsum meus hostilis in inritus of tractus ut nunquam iterum penetro meus os
vortex lacuna
Open the gate of the void
join light to darkness and draw in my foe
expel my enemy into the void of space to never again enter my sight
vortex of empty space
opens a hole to suck the foe into a randomly chosen point in space.
carries the danger of sucking in any nearby object as well
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phasmatis ferrarius quod calx redimio mihi
encase meus somes per a contego of terra
deus calx , numerus propugnaculum
spirits of iron and stone surround me
encase my body with a shield of earth
god of stone, total fortification
creates an armour-like shell of iron ore drawn from the ground to block non-magical attacks
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bones restituo , viscus signum , vulnus propinquus
restituo vires of unus ego tactus
meus curatio manuum
bones repair, flesh seal, wounds close
restore the strength of the one I touch
my healing hands
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phasmatis incendia , unda , terra quod ventus , adveho recolligo
vultus a culmen quod spin inter invicem
certamen quod impendo , repleo terra
repleo divum per vestri rabies , permissum vestri tempestas saevio
elementum tempestas ruina
spirits of fire, water, earth and wind, come gather
form a pillar and spin around each other
combine and expand, fill the land
fill the sky with your fury, let your storm rage
elemental storm of destruction
creates a cyclone of combined elemenal forces in a massive area,
destroying all structures and killing anything living in the process
should be ancient greek instead for a high level spell, probably more destructive than eva's kozmikh katazrophe spell, but easier to block with magic, normal protections won't work however.
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phasmatis ventus , planto mihi unus per aer
ut ego fade absentis quod fio invisible ut lumen
phasmatis ingredior
spirits of wind, make me one with the air
as I fade away and become invisible to the eye
ghost walk
makes the caster invisible to the human eye, however video cameras will pick up a faint
vibration of the air creating an outline around the caster.
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alternate cantus spells
cantus audacia
song of bravery
cantus vires
song of strenth
cantus accelero
song of speed
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per is orbis ego voco a res facio a pactum
patefacio a via ut regnum of everto
**use one of the following two lines, but not both**
ego dico inscribo notus per nomen _____
use to summon an entity by their known name
ego dico inscribo per suus verus nomen _______
use to summon the entity by the true name,
for total control over it
**optional line**
______, ego redimio vos per vestri verus nomen , ut meus to order , vobis es meus mancipium
use this line to dominate the entity entirely, however, the entity will most likely hold a grudge and will try to twist your commands, taking them by the letter, but not by the actual intent. replace ______ with the actual name or truename of the entity you wish to summon
with this circle i summon a being to make a contract
open a road to the realm of demons
I call the entity known by the name _____
I call the entity with his/her true name _______
______, I bind you through your true name, to my command, for you are my slave
Alberio
09-04-2007, 01:31 AM
Nice spells you made, dang thats pretty long...
I called it balanced because I thought that giving someone a weakness or filling it in and having no strength, I just don't like over powered people is really the reason I chose that.
according to the anime asuna DIES! oh noez
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 01:49 AM
its the end of volume 20 because, the translator said so XD and he prolly translated that sooo
SKATEateer
09-04-2007, 01:58 AM
the anime sucks
haha
well we will see if it is the end or not
sooner or later
for sure
Alberio
09-04-2007, 02:02 AM
True...I didn't really like the anime either, but Asuna dieing is temptive >_> No offense I just don't like her.
The manga is feeling a bit rushed and not rushed at the same time, my prevous mentioned things explain that
SKATEateer
09-04-2007, 02:26 AM
who else do you want to die alberio haha
oh ok i thought she died i didnt like her either lol
SKATEateer
09-04-2007, 02:36 AM
i like the class rep
haha shes got the money and the power
whatta G
Alberio
09-04-2007, 02:38 AM
who else do you want to die alberio haha
I have a mile long list of manga characters I want to die jk
lol I don't have that kind of time, I was halfway joking back there though, I just wish she would stop being so angsty really.
SKATEateer
09-04-2007, 02:42 AM
no the two that annoy me are mana and the childhood friend of negi...
mana because : unloyal and has no personality.. atleast not much of one shown so far.
and that childhood friend always going off on negi loving the boobs and girls.. just a typical childhood friend too attached to him
Alberio
09-04-2007, 02:50 AM
I don't like Anya neither, but Mana seems to be nice if she was in the classroom with everyone without being hated.
SKATEateer
09-04-2007, 03:05 AM
well some of the class seems to be sorta filler.. i mean only some of the class has had flashbacks and stuff like that to go in depth with the character
so yeah
mana isnt really like a notable "school girl" to me in my opinion
Alberio
09-04-2007, 03:12 AM
Nor is many in the class, like you said a filler student. One thing I don't like is when people go all loli over Eva though...
I want to see how Ako got that scar, I know its been said but I really do want to know how she got it.
jenkem
09-04-2007, 03:15 AM
those girls that are following him are REALLY ANNOYING
Alberio
09-04-2007, 03:22 AM
Thank you for agreeing with me, I said that a page back or so and no one said anyting about it. Well most of them are, some are alright I guess, some I saw were pretty nice but not overly annoying, those twins being the most, and the rich girl isn't too bad because she is an alright person.
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 03:28 AM
i acutally like mana >.< but anya is alright shes fun ^^
Alberio
09-04-2007, 03:33 AM
I'm not sure on whether Mana is a good person or not, but I am interested in her story, I mean a friggin mime how the heck did she want that!
SKATEateer
09-04-2007, 03:36 AM
hahaha
well the girl in the class thats sorta fat
shes not really involved in the plot much
thats what i mean by sorta filler
i dunno if im making much sense but haha ill try to
tsunade666
09-04-2007, 03:42 AM
I don't want anyone die they should all go bang and wild in the night :D
Alberio
09-04-2007, 03:44 AM
Hahaha, Naw only half of them, I think anymore will make Negi die from five heartattacks.:D
SKATEateer
09-04-2007, 03:45 AM
hes 11 or 12 jesus! haha
whatta pimp
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 03:47 AM
hes 10 lol >.<
Alberio
09-04-2007, 03:48 AM
I was thinking that while he was using those pills, his "happy pills", I can't imagine his 10 year old form, actually its a bit disgusting to think about him with them.
SKATEateer
09-04-2007, 03:50 AM
no he was ten when he first started right? well hes been with that class i think already one year
right?
it said so
so he has to be 11 now haha
atleast
oh btw the tsunade666
i figured out the whole status thing a while back
so.. yeah your message came a little too late but thanks anyways
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 03:51 AM
no hes 9 if you didnt count new years eve, cause its some japanese custom to add 1 year for new year or w\e, and hes only with them for half a year yet, i dont think he even celebrated his birthday yet
Alberio
09-04-2007, 03:54 AM
But physically I would say he is older than his actual age, considering Eva's little area so yeah....
His actual age should be ten by now, soon to eleven, but they never showed his birthday so I'm a bit biased on that.
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 03:57 AM
lol why o.0 he even said he is 10 so shouldnt he be 10 >.< and why would he lie for his age? and why would he physically older for his age lol eva is like a true blood vampire so she cant die but negi is really 10
Alberio
09-04-2007, 04:01 AM
That area she has is like the hyperbolic time chamber of DBZ so thats why I said that.
He would probably lie because he doesn't want to feel overwhelmed and too young to teach.
SKATEateer
09-04-2007, 04:01 AM
but he came from england
so he doesnt do japanese birthday crap
hahaha
negi is 11 by now! haha it has to be it
kaverinebonhands
09-04-2007, 04:21 AM
Actually, it has been about one year, when he started it was just the beginning of 2003, and the students back then were all wearing coats, scarves/mufflers and gloves/mittens, indicating that it is still cold. Konoemon Konoe the bighead master said that Negi would student-teach until March. then there is a timeskip after the library exploration in vol 2 with a few andom things happening. volume three picks up after the holidays with the class now in 3A.
volume seven has Ayaka inviting Negi on a trip to a resort over Golden Week, a week containing four national holidays in Japan spanning april 29 and may 3 to may 5.
the festival is one month after Negi started training with Evangeline which was one week after the Kyoto trip.
Since Negi says he's on his tenth year, you can probably assume he's rounding up because he is almost 10, even though his actual birthday isn't stated.
Also, following the festival, is the summer holidays
from wikipedia:
In Japan, almost all schools run a three-term school year. Most schools have a first term from April 1 to mid-July. The exact date of the beginning of the summer break and its duration vary across regions, but commonly the break lasts for about one or two months. The break originated to avoid the heat in summer, so elementary and middle schools in Hokkaidō tend to have a shorter summer break than the rest of schools in Japan. A second term lasts from early September to late December with a winter break at the end of the year. The term is followed by a third term from early January to early March and a brief spring break lasting several weeks. The graduation ceremony occurs in March, and the enrollment ceremony in early April.
Some universities and colleges accept students in September in order to let those students from other semester systems enroll. In recent years a few colleges have begun experimenting with having two semesters instead of the traditional three with the break between two semesters in summer.
by this time Negi would be ten and a bit.
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 04:25 AM
no i think he didnt even finish his term yet, and he is only there till march
kaverinebonhands
09-04-2007, 04:36 AM
actually he did march was where he took the baka rangers to the library and may was the trip in volume 7. he has been teaching them since there third term in 2A and they have had two terms since then. after the summer holidays when they get back from Wales it'll be the second term of 3A, in September.
Actually, miscalculation, 3/4 of year, not full year. oops.
anyway negi would be 10, not 11, at the most, assuming he had his birthday already.
anyway, people should make they're own spells we have a bunch of air, lightning and a couple of ice, dark, light, earth/petrification and fire based spells, and one water spell, and un-incanted gravity spells as well, for western mages. eastern mages are looking kind of under-powered with the small number of spells/talisman powers we've seen from them.
Who would you most like to see make a re-appearance as an opponent?
Tsukuyomi, Graf Herrmann, Chao Lingshen (not likely as a villain, if at all) or maybe even chigusa, if she gets more power, and escapes jail.
(I wonder what the Kansai MA's prison is like?)
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 04:50 AM
i wanted to see more of Fate Averruncus( the guy who could do petrification spells) and i got my wish ^^
kaverinebonhands
09-04-2007, 05:01 AM
It was quite obvious Fate was going to reappear.
His parting words, the things said about him by Eishun, and the fact that Kotaro knew about the demons, and the later conversation by Donet and Akashi-sensei (does he have a first name?)
were all plot devices to set up for a reappearance. If you've seen lots of tv shows and read lots of books, you tend to be able to identify such obvious plot hooks.
Anyway, does anyone know what the person playing Negi in the live action show will look like, I shudder to think about it! when do you think it will actually start airing, it might be good for a laugh to see what they do with the concept, even if it does turn out to be nothing but stupid school-girl harem comedy and nothing else.
I wonder what Fate would say to Kotaro, about him being on Negi's side now?
(off topic)
I've been watching an anime on youtube called "The melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya"
about an eccentric girl who wants to meet a real alien or time traveller or ESP user (esper) and creates a club called the SOS brigade to find one. she forcefully recruits a bunch of people, who, surprisingly enough, turn out to include, an alien organic computer, a time traveller friom the future, and, you guessed it, an esper. the most unique of them all is Haruhi, who, despite, being unaware of her new friend's true natures or even her own, somehow has the power to create or destroy reality on a whim, and doesn't even know it. The fifth character, also the narrator for the show is Kyon, an ordinary human, whom the other three all reveal their identities to, saying that somehow Haruhi chose him. it's funny, you should watch it, there's 14 episodes.
SKATEateer
09-04-2007, 05:28 AM
fate is the white haired kid?
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 06:16 AM
yea he is, kaver im also watching the melancholy of haruhi suzimiya, its quite funny ^^
kaverinebonhands
09-04-2007, 07:51 AM
Check wikipedia for more information on the negima characters if you have trouble remembering which is which.
the MoHS episodes were actually broadcast in a weird order the eps should go 2,3,5,10,13,14,4,7,6,8,12,11,9 for chronological order of stories.
Magister Magi 13
09-04-2007, 07:54 AM
Even Fate reappear in the story, maybe Tsukuyomi will also appear at some point in the story. That would be fun!
And the recent, Fate really made a flashy entrance, lol. Negi's gonna feel that in the morning.
Magister Magi 13
09-04-2007, 07:58 AM
I agree the anime always mess it up, it actually m ake it less fun and stranger.
Why do they even bother doing that.
OHNOES
09-04-2007, 12:23 PM
The new chapter is really awesome =D, too bad Iincho isn't there =.= she should =.=
i liked the new chapter just a way to leave it hangen eh
death incarnate
09-04-2007, 01:37 PM
wow, negi got friggin stabbed! that's going to leave a mark i bet.
luciferhellblazer
09-04-2007, 01:53 PM
I haven't read the latest chapter yet T.T
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 01:57 PM
go read it >_>...and i bet that the sports team (aka makie, yuuna, ako, akira) would make pactios or something :$ cause they seem to show signs that they know magic :s
luciferhellblazer
09-04-2007, 01:58 PM
am off to read it ::bows out::
edna777
09-04-2007, 05:04 PM
Poor Negi! He got hurt while trying to protect others!
But I think he'll survive, eh?
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 05:40 PM
obviously i mean if he died then it wouldnt be mahou sensei negima anymore :s
negi sure is bossy in the new chapter seriously
Darkreaper70
09-04-2007, 06:48 PM
um he was only being bossy so that nothing happens to them, and his intuition that someone bad was there was correct soo
Spade
09-04-2007, 07:23 PM
I'm happy that Yuna and Makie are there. Those two belong to my favorite potential-pactio list. I'm a little sad that Misa didn't make it. he's my absolute favorite from the whole class and need more focus.
SKATEateer
09-05-2007, 01:28 AM
negi is the man!
hes takin control
he was a little pushover ten year old before
but now hes an in charge 11 year old
Alberio
09-05-2007, 01:38 AM
lol SKATE this new city is so interesting, I wish I could actually see it.
SKATEateer
09-05-2007, 01:38 AM
what new city
Alberio
09-05-2007, 01:42 AM
In the new chapter, have you read it? Its in Anotherworld lol nice title...and its actual name is Megalo-Messenpolia.
Makie, Ako, and two other girls reached the city...
SKATEateer
09-05-2007, 04:28 AM
i havent read it yet.. but when i do im sure i can related with what your saying.. school started for me.. damnit!!!
kaverinebonhands
09-05-2007, 06:07 AM
the other two are Akira Okochi the swimmer and Yuna Akashi aka Yuna the kid and the girl who thought her dad was dating Donet McGuiness
It's a good thing that they have magic.
A stomach wound like that would be fatal, but not instant, unless the person has a heart attack from shock, I guess any non-instantly fatal wound could probably be healed.
Too bad, he isn't a Shinso vampire like Eva or he could instantly regenerate. I was kinda hoping Negi would actually get a chance to actually fight Fate though.
aquielleoz
09-05-2007, 12:53 PM
or its an illusion... Fate stabs Negi's afterimage... before Fate gets done for by Negi and co.
OHNOES
09-05-2007, 01:32 PM
^^ I thought the exact same thing xD
But I still want Iincho to have the most epic pactio.
Alberio
09-05-2007, 09:00 PM
Meh...My schooling started again a week ago >_>
I don't know whether or not it was an afterimage of Negi, but I would like to see him and Fate fight one another now....
gr1mmy
09-05-2007, 10:49 PM
I wish that a scanlation team would pick up the series... I miss it.
Alberio
09-05-2007, 10:52 PM
Hm?! There was a new chapter out yesterday though, so do you mean that the manga was released in Japan more often?
gr1mmy
09-05-2007, 10:53 PM
Eh. Really. Didn't notice. Brb XD
SKATEateer
09-06-2007, 12:16 AM
it gets released every wednsday
in japan
Alberio
09-06-2007, 12:25 AM
I thought that Gr1mmy meant he/she wished that the chapter was released more frequently, we got that answered, but I'm pretty sure Gr1mmy knows.
SKATEateer
09-06-2007, 12:29 AM
oh i see
i still havent read the new chapter but im readin it right now haha
Alberio
09-06-2007, 12:34 AM
You'll probably get done by the time you see this but...
Do you think that is an afterimage of Negi or do you think Fate actually got him?
gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 12:36 AM
I'm guessing Fate got him. That would be much more interesting.
SKATEateer
09-06-2007, 12:39 AM
even if it wasnt a clone
he should be fine
hes taken worse damage in hte past
well i bet by some weird turn of events the class rep and the rest of the crew will end up in that city
i bet
i mean.. all the scenarios they all end up together haha
Alberio
09-06-2007, 12:45 AM
I hope not, the rest of the class is downright annoying, well except a few like the rich girl can be nice at times, but I abhore those twins.
So you think that he got hit as well, we'll find out. I hope he did though because it would be more interesting and if Fate were to be discovered for that I wonder what might happen, I'm sure he'd get away quick unfortunatly.
SKATEateer
09-06-2007, 12:46 AM
well the twins are there arent they?
gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 12:47 AM
Huh? You mean the "elementary students"
SKATEateer
09-06-2007, 12:50 AM
yeah they are in the magic world arent they
gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 12:53 AM
I don't see them. Don't think so...
Alberio
09-06-2007, 12:53 AM
No, they are still in the mist...they don't have strong magical abilities muahahaha
gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 12:54 AM
Really... In the end, pretty much every1 is in the magic world XD
SKATEateer
09-06-2007, 12:54 AM
wait then who made it to the city.. makie yuna.. and who else?
kaverinebonhands
09-06-2007, 12:56 AM
it can't be an after-image, Negi can't do that technique, and afterimages don't bleed, as they just dissappear after taking any significant wound.
Negi probably won't fight yet, they'll probably be rescued by the friend of Nagi's and Fate will escape, as Negi would not be in any condition to fight yet, and negi has not ever had a wound this serious. He's been bloody disemboweled for crying out loud, if it weren't for magic existing it'd be pretty much a mortal wound.
Hopefully Konoka has a chance to get to him, so she can use her pactio artifact, I can't remember the names of her fans.
If they made a fighting game featuring all Negima characters with combat ability, so no iincho or nodoka or Yue, but including villains, who'd you play as? I'd play as Kotaro, Negi or Evangeline.
Just imagine it... Negima! Mahora Budokai
I said this before SKATEateer, Makie Sasaki, Yuna Akashi, Akira Okochi, and Ako Izumi,
gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 12:57 AM
There is a fighting game XD
SKATEateer
09-06-2007, 12:57 AM
lol really?
only some of the people in the class are annoying or useless
but i like hte class rep
she makes very funny scenes
gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 12:59 AM
Yes really. I saw it in Taiwan. Those lucky bastards.
Alberio
09-06-2007, 01:01 AM
That game wasn't really much of a fighting game with a good fighting system I heard...
Konoka will most likely be the one to catch him....
gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 01:02 AM
Yea, it's like a bleach: shattered blade & smash bros morph
SKATEateer
09-06-2007, 01:03 AM
haha
i wanna learn some asian language then move over there
so ill be with china when they take over the world
their economy is like U.S's in the 50's// its booming
gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 01:04 AM
I can speak chinese, I'm learning Japanese... Back to the manga!!
Asuna seems to have become rather minor now...
kaverinebonhands
09-06-2007, 01:07 AM
You're taliking about Neo Pactio Battle, for Wii, but it sucks, it's more like smash brothers and it only has a few characters and none of the villains, it has negi, asuna, eva, nodoka, and a couple of others, only about 8 or so.
I mean a real fighting game like mortal kombat style or Naruto ultimate ninja style.
and it should only have characters that can use real combat spells or martial arts so Nodoka, Yue and Konoka would not be included as they have no combat ability, they only have very basic magic, and non-combat related artifacts, and they have very slight physique, from the fact that spend most of their time in intellectual pursuits, and apart from climbing bookshelves on library island, don't get much physical activity at all.
Negi is going to end up in a hospital or something. with nurses wearing Neko-mimis, lol
I wonder if the sporty girls will get their pactios soon? Akira's would be something to do with water, (Super soaker that shoots fifty tons of water pressure) Ako's might be a magic soccer ball or a hypodermic needle. Makie would probably get a whip and leather outfit to go with it, and Yuna would get a gun.
Hey, Alberio, what is that character that your avatar picture is of, I don't think I've seen it before.
Alberio
09-06-2007, 01:07 AM
Yeah...but in the grand schemem of things she doesn't affect things too much...
The game also lacked all of Negi's newer abilities I think, only one power up I beleive.
gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 01:08 AM
I know... Stop talking about the game!!!
(Dang, I broke 200 and 300 in one day)
Alberio
09-06-2007, 01:10 AM
:eek: Strange...
I think Negi is the only one, besides Konoka and Setsuna, that really affect much in the magic world, since everyone else isn't all that great except for maybe Asuna's sword.
gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 01:11 AM
Kanka...
There are way too many characters, so it's pretty hard to develope all of them. But, it looks like Asuna will probably be coming back. Those dreams of hers.
kaverinebonhands
09-06-2007, 01:16 AM
Alberio, who's your avatar picture?
Also the wii game is based off Negima!? (2nd anime series)
Asuna hasn't become minor, it's just that so much stuff is happening at once, that nobody, not even Negi is getting much "screen" time, there is only so much that can be put in eighteen pages of manga, give Ken Akamatsu a chance to actually develop the story along more before you make such a statement.
gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 01:18 AM
Ironic but, Albireo^^ from the novel AI buster for .hack- Alberio
I asked him before
gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 01:21 AM
Needs to be closed... MOOOOOD!!!
SKATEateer
09-06-2007, 01:21 AM
alberio isa guy?
haha
never knew
well yeah
negima
the first anime sucked
i never finished the second anime series
because it was weird
haha
Alberio
09-06-2007, 01:23 AM
lol Thats a quote
This needs to be closed, so I'll make a thread if you two already haven't.
Thats second game doesn't sound all that appealing to me....sorry for assuming but you know..
gr1mmy
09-06-2007, 01:25 AM
go ahead
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