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MangaAddict
08-03-2007, 04:22 PM
I coulndt find a thread on this so I made one... anyone read the newest chapter??

riverclear
08-04-2007, 05:23 AM
Yeah, i read 141 just stating for reference reasons.

I was confused how it started, they were just fishing and i was a little lost with this chapter. I thought that i missed something from the last chapter, but i didnt. So this chapter just went over my head and i'm hoping it will be explained in the next. Or if someone else knows whats going on.

Arystar Krory
08-04-2007, 09:21 AM
yeah me too..maybe it was filler,so clamp could think something up

CheshireCat
08-04-2007, 11:32 PM
I like xxxholic. The artwork is good, and the storyline isn't too confusing. The best part is that xxxholic is made up mostly of little storylines that could make sense on their own.

frost city
08-05-2007, 12:31 AM
I'm glad that CLAMP is finally -- finally!!! -- moving the plot along. Kinda makes me tingly for the next chapter.

Ven
08-05-2007, 12:32 AM
Watanuki and Domeki remind of the guys in Legal Drug. Only...The blonde dude is more dramatic and the other dude, is more smiliy and teaseable. xD. This manga is OK.

MangaAddict
08-05-2007, 12:34 AM
They are a lot like the guys in legal drug, I cant wait for that series to continue by the end of the year! Theres one huge difference of course in their relationships...:D
I like watanuki a lot cause hes so nice! Domeki used to really annoy me but now Im starting to like him...

edna777
08-09-2007, 06:56 AM
i can't wait for next chapter...a bit dark, but not as violent or magical like X/1999 or Tsubasa Reservoir

Fan
08-09-2007, 09:49 AM
Yeah, I like it a lot too.

tarbis
08-10-2007, 04:46 AM
I just wanna ask whatever happened to chapter 59 - 108 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v50/tarbis/Avatars/konchan3full.gif

riverclear
08-10-2007, 05:29 AM
from what i remember from the post, it is just a weird numbering problem. The fill is complete, its just a messed up chapter descriptions. So in short no chapters are missing, they are all there, you're not missing anything.

tarbis
08-10-2007, 11:11 AM
ahh ic, so 109 is really 59?? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v50/tarbis/Emoticons/1.gif

Vincrie
08-13-2007, 06:06 AM
Oh thats good because i was looking at that and thought, WTF!? Since i didn't want to read so much them skip junk of the story... I love xxxholic though its so random :D

FirstOfApril
08-14-2007, 10:12 AM
what the hell happened at the latest chapter? it was full of hellish crap!

aquielleoz
08-14-2007, 10:24 AM
chicken?

MangaAddict
08-21-2007, 04:25 AM
The newest chapter was kinda weird... What was with the food sampling thing?

kristhy
08-21-2007, 01:25 PM
i love this anime
and hes quite hilarious!!

adrastea
08-21-2007, 03:48 PM
Maybe foodtesting has some importance in japanese culture?
Or maybe it's also something that's going to be reviled about watanuki ( like the fact that he can't remember his parent's name)

SoulSorcerer
08-21-2007, 03:57 PM
LOL. Thanks God Im not the only one who is confused.

I like the series a lot, this Manga is actually (and sorry to some fans) the only reason why I read TRC.
It's so random, take the last chapter for example xD

frost city
08-22-2007, 10:53 PM
Seriously, what the hell was that about? Just one mystery after another. Interesting, though.

MangaAddict
08-22-2007, 11:06 PM
I started reading it because of trc too... but I still like it. It just doesnt make any sense and trc is starting to make no sense either... Im just totally confused altogether :)

cedusey
08-25-2007, 02:58 AM
just gotta love the watanuki and doumeki act though. its hilarious

Fan
08-25-2007, 09:16 AM
yeah ^^

Outlaw Star fan
08-27-2007, 09:27 AM
Clamp most really like thier storys to be connected with each other for some reason.

MangaAddict
08-27-2007, 05:58 PM
Yes! A new chapter is coming out, I just saw the raw!

SoulSorcerer
08-27-2007, 10:56 PM
Yup, cool chapter....I think.

Man, I hope next chapter actually explains something, lol.

edna777
08-29-2007, 11:43 PM
geez, the new chapter is even more confusing....it looks like watanuki is dreaming a lot and he's starting to lose sense of what's real and what's not

MangaAddict
08-30-2007, 02:36 AM
There were a lot of chapters where there was no actual plot, just weird things that happened to watanuki... I think thats what this chapter was about. He was talking about those occurences and how he still doesnt know what happened... but, yeah, I think hes getting confused about whats real and whats not...

SoulSorcerer
08-30-2007, 02:47 AM
What do you guys think about Watanuki's future? He's obviously going to be someone important in the Magical/Spiritual/Ghost/''Zomg how the hell that happened'' World/s.

I think he's going to be someone like Clow Reed, at least, that's what I hope.

MangaAddict
08-30-2007, 02:55 AM
At first I thought he would take over as the dimensional witch but now I dont think so...
Another clow reed? I can see that happening... but isnt he going to lose his powers?

adrastea
08-30-2007, 04:39 PM
What it made me think of is that the wish he asked yuuko to grand seems to be taking effect. I wonder what it means.

riverclear
08-30-2007, 06:51 PM
Yuuko isnt trying to fulfill a wish but is rather trying to prevent something from happening. The catalyst to prevent this event involves watanuki and the characters from TRC.

fusugar
08-31-2007, 02:04 PM
They are a lot like the guys in legal drug, I cant wait for that series to continue by the end of the year! Theres one huge difference of course in their relationships...:D
I like watanuki a lot cause hes so nice! Domeki used to really annoy me but now Im starting to like him...

huh? whats the difference?

fusugar
08-31-2007, 02:07 PM
i actually hate trc but love xxxholic
trc just doesnt have anything that makes me want to keep watching/reading, xxxholic has more likable characters with more depth to their personality

Dragon_fire1995
08-31-2007, 07:44 PM
I really love the first few chapters of XXXHolic. They are the best. I love Yuki's ( Or Yuuko's. Call her what you wish.) wisdom. Its just such an interesting manga. In my top 4 manga it is.

Fang
09-01-2007, 05:49 PM
I'm sorry if I throw you guys off topic but I keep seeing signs of this in the manga and anime so I just want to know if Yuuko and Watanuki are developing a romantic relationship or not.

fusugar
09-01-2007, 10:38 PM
^sorry but no way. that is never gonna happen and i cant see what signs your talking about. they may like each other a lot but not in that way

i wonder how old yuuko is supposed to be? i mean she doesnt seem that old yet she was alive long enough ago to know clow reed

j-star.tist
09-07-2007, 12:58 AM
Does anyone think they know the purpose of watanuki? In recent chapters clamp started getting serious. It's seems like the overly hype watnuki never exhisted now that we're at this stage of the plot.

-he's to take over yuuko's position if "Mr. reed dude" (i can never remember his name, not clow reed though) finally got rid of her.
-he's there under yuuko's protection and among others so that "mr. reed dude" can't get to him because he may in fact be what "mr. reed dude" may be after. (the power that lies in clow country.)
-he's there to be the one to grant yuuko her wish.

and my latest conclusion!!!!:
watanuki is syaoran. not the real real syaoran, but the clone syaoran.

why? yuko concluded that watanuki was the same as syaoran. his connection with the real syaoran was the closest of the close. we know that the clone possessed the other half of the real syaoran's heart. and recently, we know that watanuki is dreaming and perfhaps, dreaming in his dreams itself. the clone syaoran was heading into the world of dreams like sakura. and it just so happens that his name is literally 'april 1st' the date of which sakura told the clone syaoran, would be the date of both their birthdays. what else? Watanuki only has one true eye that belongs to him, like the other syaorans.

oy, i babbled too much. >_< anyone else agrees?

gr1mmy
09-07-2007, 01:00 AM
Huh? It makes sense, but can you simplify it a bit???

j-star.tist
09-07-2007, 01:14 AM
^hmm...it's kinda hard to simplify. the overall plot and link between the two books is... @_@ I dont know why but, it seems clamp has been leading the readers off into several directions that circle each other. so in a way, all my assumptions of who watanuki may really be has been changing as they reveal more stuff. However, I'm pretty convinced now that clamp is telling us that watanuki is indeed the clone syaoran. Do you read TRC?

gr1mmy
09-07-2007, 01:16 AM
Read a portion of it, took a break though.

j-star.tist
09-07-2007, 01:27 AM
^ hmm...yeah....i guess, if one reads only xxxholic only, the opinion is a bit different since it's from a perspective without the trc drama. so then does it seem to a xxx reader only that watanuki is fading away outta the blue?

ion
09-07-2007, 07:32 AM
yeah I always have theory that actually watanuki is the real clone syaoran but I dunno seems kind of a bit off because if he is a clone why he doesn't look like syaoran? is clamp doing their usual puzzle?
or maybe watanuki only have the real syaoran clone soul? sound kind of twisted but well.. its clamp :)

anyway, I do wish watanuki and yuko developed some romance. I know yuko is old but hey she looks hot! and in reality, there is always ashton kutcher :D

other than that! after I reading this comic, i always wish that the shop is a real! I am willing trading my soul for my wish though hahahaha

fusugar
09-07-2007, 11:05 PM
^yeh but didnt things not work out for ashton kutcher?
watanuki and yuuko is probably never gonna happen, neither should it happen i think, theyre just not right for each other

also if the end of xxxholic really does relate to trc that sucks for the people who love xxxholic but cant stand tsr :( im gonna have no idea unless i read trc and i really cant be arsed

Oo.TsuKikO-chAn.oO
09-07-2007, 11:14 PM
i luv xxxholic...i dont watch the anime, but i do collect the manga...i think its much better...

j-star.tist
09-07-2007, 11:23 PM
^ man, sorry to those who do like the anime, but man, i love xxxholic so much that i decided to try watching the anime too. Talk about a huge disappointment!!! i watched the first and maybe second episode and i couldn't really stand it. :( the anime should go under another title. i really didn't like finding out that they took sections out of the story that had anything to do with trc.

Oo.TsuKikO-chAn.oO
09-07-2007, 11:29 PM
^ man, sorry to those who do like the anime, but man, i love xxxholic so much that i decided to try watching the anime too. Talk about a huge disappointment!!! i watched the first and maybe second episode and i couldn't really stand it. :( the anime should go under another title. i really didn't like finding out that they took sections out of the story that had anything to do with trc.really?...wow

see that's why i only read deh mangas, not watch deh anime version of it...they practically change major stuff...and probably put in some fillers...

MangaAddict
09-07-2007, 11:33 PM
What is tsr?
Also, I only watched the first episode of the anime. It had a different arc and I guess I wasnt very impressed because I didnt go back for more. I did like how it started out in the very beginning though. But I like reading clamp manga because of how interesting the art is (and the crazy storylines too) and you cant really get that in the anime.

Oo.TsuKikO-chAn.oO
09-07-2007, 11:38 PM
What is tsr?
Also, I only watched the first episode of the anime. It had a different arc and I guess I wasnt very impressed because I didnt go back for more. I did like how it started out in the very beginning though. But I like reading clamp manga because of how interesting the art is (and the crazy storylines too) and you cant really get that in the anime.
i know...

ion
09-08-2007, 12:27 AM
huh? ashton kutcher is married with demi moore and seems lived happily ever after :D

yeah the anime is just.... a different world. for the movie I think its qute okay to watch but well,
I prefer the manga.

anyway, I am just wondering where clam will lead this serial.
I always think maybe it also have some relation with some magic knight rayearth main characters worlds because up until now, only magic knight main characters is still haven't been used by clamp

Oo.TsuKikO-chAn.oO
09-08-2007, 01:17 AM
huh? ashton kutcher is married with demi moore and seems lived happily ever after :D

yeah the anime is just.... a different world. for the movie I think its qute okay to watch but well,
I prefer the manga.

anyway, I am just wondering where clam will lead this serial.
I always think maybe it also have some relation with some magic knight rayearth main characters worlds because up until now, only magic knight main characters is still haven't been used by clamp

oh yeah huh?

fusugar
09-08-2007, 01:54 PM
huh? ashton kutcher is married with demi moore and seems lived happily ever after :D

yeah the anime is just.... a different world. for the movie I think its qute okay to watch but well,
I prefer the manga.

anyway, I am just wondering where clam will lead this serial.
I always think maybe it also have some relation with some magic knight rayearth main characters worlds because up until now, only magic knight main characters is still haven't been used by clamp

huh i thought they split up
perhaps im thinking of someone else, i dont really know that stuff to be honest

anyway i kinda liked the anime, it wasnt bad anyway and i think its quite similar to the manga but i can see why some would be dissapointed, i couldnt even tell you why but it seemed a bit kinda bleak and depressing

if youve only watched 2 episodes perhaps u should watch the rest, it does get better

adrastea
09-08-2007, 08:05 PM
I watched the anime before reading the manga , I did like the anime but I LOVED the manga. SO I imagine that I would have been disapointed if I had done the opposite.

Oo.TsuKikO-chAn.oO
09-08-2007, 11:32 PM
I watched the anime before reading the manga , I did like the anime but I LOVED the manga. SO I imagine that I would have been disapointed if I had done the opposite.
huh....

fusugar
09-09-2007, 08:03 PM
that last chapter really was cool:D
i cant believe yuuko actually showed some emotion:eek: shes always so calm and her expression rarely changes but she was shocked when watanuki asked about her wish aww how cute

Naan
09-09-2007, 08:24 PM
i loved the anime, didn't read the manga yet...gonna make some time for this...watanuki is so funny and i like the way yuuko make fun of him...

Oo.TsuKikO-chAn.oO
09-11-2007, 12:59 AM
i just started reading xxxholic, and i dont read the one here in onemanga cuz i dont wanna spoil it...

j-star.tist
09-16-2007, 12:17 AM
question: is anyone truly understanding watanuki's position in terms of what's reality and what isnt? we now know he's human. but is his reality actually a dream and the reason for not knowing his past? thus is he dreaming within a dream?

adrastea
09-17-2007, 04:00 AM
I was just wondering something could everything be a dream. Because two people have said "if the dream doesn't end". One of them being clow read, so whose dream is it. At first I thought it means dreams as like a desire but maybe it's really a dream?

chezkimo
09-22-2007, 07:57 PM
Hey, when are new chapters of XxXHolic coming out? it's been more than a month i think. Have people forgotten about scanning the new chapters or is there a long wait till the enxt cha[ters because of something?

Alberio
09-22-2007, 08:00 PM
Definatly...*sobs* I think it, may have been dropped by the group that was scanlating it.

adrastea
09-23-2007, 05:51 AM
I think the manga is on a hiatus for a month and a half. From what i have heard the next chapter will come out on the 15th of october

chezkimo
09-23-2007, 05:11 PM
oooh, ok. as long as they come they can take two years for all i care....i hope it dosn't take two years!!

In any case, seeing as nobody's posting int his thread anymore. whose your fav. character?

and what do you think this big event is going to be that yuko has talked about?

and what do you think yuko's wish is?

and is it me or is watanuki got anaemia or something? maybe coz of the fall when he lost so much blood. But then again Doumeki did let yuko heal him by taking doumeki's blood. But if so, how the hell is doumeki like uneffected like nothing happened the next day? that guy can take on any damage!!

frost city
09-26-2007, 06:11 AM
My favorite character is Yuuko. In fact she is the only female character in all of CLAMP's works that I actually like. She's obsessive, strange, has awesome powers without being a Mary Sue, is funny in an annoying way, and she's just... cool.

I also like the Doumeki/Watanuki/Himawari group interaction. I think they're interesting characters and I wonder what roles they'll play in the future.

One thing I don't understand is all the Tsubasa references. I tried to read Tsubasa but... I couldn't, I hate it. XD So everytime something in Tsubasa-land has an effect on the xxxHOLiC storyline, I feel retarded.

Ven
09-26-2007, 09:16 PM
Watanuki, of course, lmao, he's just so annoyingly adorable. Yuko's Wish is probally to help out Watnauki without a price...or something...Gah

Dreams of Fate
09-27-2007, 11:59 PM
Anyone noticed in chapter 35, when the lady with the monkey hand is speaking in the phone
they mention "what happened to that person's grandfather"
anyone think they may be refering to Doumeki's grandfather?

adrastea
09-28-2007, 03:24 AM
I don't remenber but it could be of doumeki's grandfather since he does have a role in the story.

Suna-dono
09-28-2007, 09:05 AM
Watanuki, of course, lmao, he's just so annoyingly adorable. Yuko's Wish is probally to help out Watnauki without a price...or something...Gah

Or maybe it's that she wants Clow to come back to life because she was in love with him. That's what I'm betting on.

chezkimo
09-28-2007, 05:53 PM
no, it's not that. i know, because i think clow is alive and is in the world of that which with tsubusa and sakara (i think it's there names) have gone too. I remember reading it somewhere.

I wander if yuko's wish is for watanuki to always be happy. or maybe to always be by her side and at the end he ends up serving her for all eternity. lol. pure hell for him wouldn't it be?

j-star.tist
09-29-2007, 12:43 AM
um i just thought of something....they say that the dream has to end right? what if watanuki was that dream? the one who's dreaming everything including the chaos happening in trc? plus, just how important is doumeki? will he be the one to cave watanuki from the dreams?

Suna-dono
09-29-2007, 12:48 AM
o_o

This manga is way too confusing to talk about, especially since I do drugs. >>

Dreams of Fate
09-29-2007, 01:29 AM
um i just thought of something....they say that the dream has to end right? what if watanuki was that dream? the one who's dreaming everything including the chaos happening in trc? plus, just how important is doumeki? will he be the one to cave watanuki from the dreams?

my theory:
I think it would be more precise to say that Watanuki is a dream.. or is trapped inside a dream in some way. All he has experienced is a dream except for working on yuuko' shop. If he wishes, he could make that which happened only in dreams to become reality
Yea, i know is far fetched, but thats what i think ( for now)

fusugar
10-01-2007, 05:15 PM
My favorite character is Yuuko. In fact she is the only female character in all of CLAMP's works that I actually like. She's obsessive, strange, has awesome powers without being a Mary Sue, is funny in an annoying way, and she's just... cool.

I also like the Doumeki/Watanuki/Himawari group interaction. I think they're interesting characters and I wonder what roles they'll play in the future.

One thing I don't understand is all the Tsubasa references. I tried to read Tsubasa but... I couldn't, I hate it. XD So everytime something in Tsubasa-land has an effect on the xxxHOLiC storyline, I feel retarded.

agreed about yuuko, she is actually the only cool female character clamp ever made. funny how an all female group can make so many dull and pathetic female characters

as for tsubasa i hated it when i first started reading it but it gets better after a while and to be honest it seems xxxholic fans have no choice but to read it as it seems its gonna have a lot to do with the end of xxxholic

fusugar
10-01-2007, 05:25 PM
o_o

This manga is way too confusing to talk about, especially since I do drugs. >>

oh well good for you :rolleyes:

anyway doesnt the fact watanuki is human rule out the possibility of him being a dream? or is that not exactly what u mean?

adrastea
10-01-2007, 11:46 PM
Yuuko does say that they are in the same world as CC Sakura so it can't all be a dream, right?

Tsuki
10-02-2007, 02:04 PM
I've just finished this manga, the last few chapters were a bit complicated... (luckily I've read tsubasa first...)

About the dream problem..
Doumeki's grandpa said something about a boy dreaming about a butterfly.. is the boy dreaming about the butterfly or is the butterfly dreaming about being a boy... it's the same problem with Watanuki (or so I think...) maybe he's just a dream dreamed by someone in an other world... but may be he is the one dreaming about other worlds... (like the one where he met Sakura...) But is he really human??? In the last few chapters he reminded me of Yukito in CCS (when he falls asleep all the time and he almost disappeared...) Yukito wasn't a real human (cause he was a part of Yue) maybe Watanuki is something like that... The other thing that's on my mind is that Yuuko said that Watanuki and (the real) Syaoran are the same.. exactly how are they the same??? (I think we'll soon find out in tsubasa...)

And one more thing:
I don't Yuuko is human either... ok she's a powerful witch... but I think she's not human, maybe she's some sort of deity or entity with powers far beyond any human wizard or sorcerer

Dreams of Fate
10-02-2007, 06:52 PM
Well she said he is human, just like sayoran. so as long as sayoran is human and she is not lying (which i dont think) he is completely human .
Unless she is refering to the clone sayoran...

j-star.tist
10-05-2007, 12:58 AM
anyway doesnt the fact watanuki is human rule out the possibility of him being a dream? or is that not exactly what u mean?
^yeah you got a point there. but there's the big "duh" that watanuki has some big relation to "THE DREAM". now, if only clamp would just clarify and stop spinnig us in circles. >_<

I've just finished this manga, the last few chapters were a bit complicated... (luckily I've read tsubasa first...)

About the dream problem..
Doumeki's grandpa said something about a boy dreaming about a butterfly.. is the boy dreaming about the butterfly or is the butterfly dreaming about being a boy... it's the same problem with Watanuki (or so I think...) maybe he's just a dream dreamed by someone in an other world... but may be he is the one dreaming about other worlds... (like the one where he met Sakura...) But is he really human??? In the last few chapters he reminded me of Yukito in CCS (when he falls asleep all the time and he almost disappeared...) Yukito wasn't a real human (cause he was a part of Yue) maybe Watanuki is something like that... The other thing that's on my mind is that Yuuko said that Watanuki and (the real) Syaoran are the same.. exactly how are they the same??? (I think we'll soon find out in tsubasa...)

And one more thing:
I don't Yuuko is human either... ok she's a powerful witch... but I think she's not human, maybe she's some sort of deity or entity with powers far beyond any human wizard or sorcerer

man, that's a good point. then is it perhaps that watanuki is the source of all the mishap in xxx and trc and the fact, yuko is represented by a butterfly, so thus, everything circulates round the two? and i agree with the yukito part about watanuki falling aslleep and disappearing. I believe this is one of the many ideas that clamp brings back. but sadly, the ideas been reinforced that watanuki is indeed human. in terms of watanuki and syaoran, i still believe that the two are the same people. what's "closer than any other" supposed to mean if not the same?

and...yuko's not human. she's a butterfly. at least i think so.

fusugar
10-14-2007, 11:01 PM
hmm so watanuki is closely linked to the REAL syaoran
but whats with the eye colours of him and the clone?
eyes are always a theme in clamp works
especially characters losing eyes :confused:
but watanuki had blue eyes and since he got half of doumekis sight now one of them is brown i think cause doumeki has brown eyes
i think that was shown in one of the colour pics
but around the same time that happened the clone syaoran who had brown eyes ate one of fais eyes giving him one blue eye
so now both watanuki and the clone syaoran have one blue one brown eye
coincidence?
i think not

adrastea
10-17-2007, 02:57 AM
well there is no coincidence in clamp.
As yuuko repeats quite a few times.
I wonder what effect that will have

marian
10-21-2007, 03:55 AM
i love yuko! wahaha
watanuki's so funny
though this series gives me goose bumps at night
ehehehe
check out the anime too its ....darker

fusugar
10-28-2007, 04:27 PM
how come theres been no new chapters in aaages?

j-star.tist
11-06-2007, 05:09 PM
hmm so watanuki is closely linked to the REAL syaoran
but whats with the eye colours of him and the clone?
eyes are always a theme in clamp works
especially characters losing eyes
but watanuki had blue eyes and since he got half of doumekis sight now one of them is brown i think cause doumeki has brown eyes
i think that was shown in one of the colour pics
but around the same time that happened the clone syaoran who had brown eyes ate one of fais eyes giving him one blue eye
so now both watanuki and the clone syaoran have one blue one brown eye
coincidence?
i think not

hmm...never caught the eye thing...but it would explain the part that right before the clone ditched, he took fai's eye's which was blue also, and therefore left to the dream world where sakura also was , which could explain watanuki's blue eyes?

oy...i miss the manga so much!!!!! >_<...but me not likey the anime. :P

Tsuki
11-06-2007, 06:38 PM
let's see... the clone took Fai's eye cause the magic within the blue of the eye... Watanuki also has blue eyes (well at least one...) and earler that spidergirl (or whatever she was) said something about Watanuki's eye being valuable in the spirit world... may be it's the same for Watanuki and Fai their blue eyes are the source of their powers...? and this makes the connection between Watanuki and Syaoran more interesting...

Why haven't been any new chapters lately?!?! I can't take it... just waiting...

Lainemaa
11-06-2007, 09:36 PM
Whoa, I never caught that about eye colour! I guess I was in too much hurry with the plot to pay enough attention to the colours.

Darkreaper70
11-12-2007, 04:35 PM
today marks the day that xxxholic gets out of haitus and continues on, new chapter is out and translation and scanlations will be out soon

fusugar
11-12-2007, 05:25 PM
^thank god
i actually didnt know it was even on a hiatus
clamp need to get out of the legal drug hiatus too

j-star.tist
11-14-2007, 04:08 AM
i'm assuming the hand belongs to fei wong reed, but i quite doubt it bc the hand look quite young right? ...and didn't he have hairy hands too? ...then again..that may be my imagination.

anyhow.... O_O watanuki sounds like he saying his goodbyes indirectly cuz he knows the dream's gonna end soon. TT_TT poor fella. is he ever gonna be able to grant yuko's wish before it's too late?

Athos
11-14-2007, 05:54 PM
When I was younger I liked, well, still do, detective novels. Then at the very end, when the mistery is solved, I always thought something like "Damn! That was so obvious! How come I didn't think of that!", like I couldve solved it myself if I really wanted to.

Of course, that was never the case, and I always kept reading and let the main character do all the job.

Now I got this really confusing puzzle, and I feel like it has given away more than enough clues to solve it. So why can't I think of something! damn you CLAMP!

And the worst part is, there is no ending yet! they are forcing me to guess! How frustrating!

Darkreaper70
11-14-2007, 07:10 PM
i'm assuming the hand belongs to fei wong reed, but i quite doubt it bc the hand look quite young right? ...and didn't he have hairy hands too? ...then again..that may be my imagination.

anyhow.... O_O watanuki sounds like he saying his goodbyes indirectly cuz he knows the dream's gonna end soon. TT_TT poor fella. is he ever gonna be able to grant yuko's wish before it's too late?

it could be his hand, fei wong has some mastery in time/space so he could manipulate the appearance of his hand

Rain-chan
11-19-2007, 10:15 AM
...I hope it's not his hand... wouldn't it be a bit too obvious? CLAMP usually like to surprise people...

Ah! this is frustrating!... why are they doing this to us!... and just when it's gotten to the good bits too...mou...

But nevertheless... the story's just... so good *.*!

Magister Magi 13
11-19-2007, 06:56 PM
I agree that the story is getting better and better! I can't wait for the next chapter. I'm still waiting . . . and waiting . . . and . . . (ZZZZ)

Lainemaa
11-19-2007, 11:25 PM
I think it said in the end of last chapter that the new one would be out in Japan on the 19th, add a few days to that for the scanlators to work on it and we should get news soon. Hopefully.

Magister Magi 13
11-20-2007, 07:15 AM
Hmmm . . . interesting. I'll look forward to it. And new chapter is out on OM!! Don't have a chance to read it now but later will.

Rain-chan
11-20-2007, 10:15 PM
Yay new chapter!!! And it was Syaoran's hand ^^ (even though that was a bit obvious to guess too -.-;; )
Is it me or does xxxHolic seems to be a little disconnected at the moment? It's looks kinda hard to read for those people who are not following Tsubasa as well...

Athos
11-21-2007, 01:52 AM
Not really... other than the connection between syaoran and Watanuki there is nothing that links both mangas that deeply. And even after reading the whole TRC manga they still won't tell us.

I blame Yuuko, not giving straight answers. But I love it when she does that "let's put that aside" move with her hands.

Rain-chan
11-21-2007, 02:11 AM
Yes, but xxxholic had put more focus on the Syaoran – Watanuki plot lately… I think the answer to the connection is going to be the big revelation for Holic near the end…
And yeah… I love Yuuko when she puts on her childish act ^^ and Mokona too!

hagarenorenkigutushi
11-21-2007, 05:52 AM
well i think that they are making the watamuki and shyoran stand out in holic is becuase watanuki is a holic character and if shyoran go to the holic story.... LOL! i wonder if im making any sense.. LOL!

Tsuki
11-21-2007, 04:58 PM
well that would be an interesting thing...
I think holic was created as a side story for the finishing of tsubasa... well not exactly a side story, more like an equal story supporting tsubasa... It stands alone as a complete story itself, but it's essential for the outcome of tsubasa... Yuuko did say that her store was created for the sake of those children (meaning Watanuki, Syaoran and co)

Magister Magi 13
11-21-2007, 05:09 PM
Too bad that the chapter only have 12 pages, but I'm sure that a lot of more intersting things is going to happen after this! Sounds fun!! And I'm pretty sure that there will be a lot of more cross over than before between the two series. It's worth it after all following the two series at once.

One of my friend read Tsubasa but not Holic, such a shame (I already tried to convince her to do so).

zerylight
11-21-2007, 05:13 PM
Maybe its all watanuki's dream? Den last chpt we saw him wake up and... THE END

Magister Magi 13
11-21-2007, 08:43 PM
Well the end to his dream, but not everything. I'm sure Yuuko know what's going on. She better tell!!

hagarenorenkigutushi
11-21-2007, 09:36 PM
rember that the dream is also a world and that even if it is a dream it actually happened... and rember the part when watanuki lost his glasses?? he said that he probably left them there.... and wasnt wearing them at the moment.. i wonder if i make any sense... im really bad at explaing...><

hagarenorenkigutushi
11-21-2007, 09:37 PM
i wonder if watanuki and shoaran are brothers... wait.. never mind.... sorry....><

Rain-chan
11-21-2007, 09:58 PM
Holic is the best!!! (I don't understand people who don't want to at least try to read it...*sigh)
anyway, yeah, it would be strange for Syaoran to keep poping into Holic (not that it's not a good thing ^^) Since the Holic world is supose to be the CCS world as well... so again we have 2 Syaorans' in the same world!, Well not technically since one's still in a dream...then that would mean there's 3 Syaorans... Ahhh this is getting confusing! ... Yuuko probably won't tell, she would just say 'let's put that aside' with that hand thing... Maybe I should stop thinking about it...

Yeah... Watanuki left his glasses in the dream... so the dream did actually happen, just like the time with the dream yukai and balloons... I think Yuuko's shop would be the answer in the end... The shop itself is almost like a world on its own.

Rain-chan
11-21-2007, 11:51 PM
I wonder what the hourglass thing does... and its connection with Yuuko's shop...
I don't think Watanuki and Syaoran are related by blood but they might be related in another way... (Wonder if Watanuki is a clone too... scary thought...) I mean, he can't remember anything anymore, and Clow and Yuuko did know about him before he actually existed...

zerylight
11-22-2007, 05:08 AM
Maybe watanuki is syaoran? I getting confused by u all le >.<!

Rain-chan
11-22-2007, 05:19 AM
that... =.=;.... well, we know Watanuki is human (at least Yuuko asured Watanuki that he's human) so since Syaoran's human too means they can't be the same person...
Watanuki can't remember his past ever since he started to have those dreams with Sakura... so that brings out the question whether his past were actually real?
Syaoran paid for the wish for Watanuki to get better after he fell... and he kept asking Watanuki not to disappear... this is the critical part of connection between the two characters... either Watanuki is the key to what ever's happening in the Tsubasa world and/or somehow Sakura, Syaoran and Watanuki's existence is some how tied together...
Little is actually known about Yuuko's background too... no one actually knows what she is yet... maybe Watanuki and her are the same?

... all that analysis which pretty much brings us back to the starting point... us readers really don't know what's going on yet...-.-;;

Lainemaa
11-22-2007, 09:16 AM
Crazy theory time: Watanuki is Syaoran's and Sakura's child by some weird timetwist... They've managed to travel in time before, so it's possible.

Rain-chan
11-22-2007, 10:15 AM
Hey, that's a really good theory! ^^ and Watanuki looks like Eriol too!
When Sakura and Syaoran start to travel the worlds they might have messed up the whole time and dymension thing... wow... that's a good theory... a bit crazy... but good! (and Clamp is known for their crazy story line anyway...)

Magister Magi 13
11-22-2007, 06:18 PM
I still don't get it, whatever you guys are saying. To me, the only answer is to wait and see. The problem is, I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER!!!!!!!! >_<

Rain-chan
11-22-2007, 11:01 PM
... well, it takes time for them to get the new chapter, scan and translated and then upload it here... we're really just freeriding so we shouldn't complain... even though it is hard to wait since we were left with a cliff-hanger from the last chapter...

And hence why we are speculating on what will happen... that's the whole point of having this forum isn't it? ... and plus, it's a lot of fun stretching your imagination once in a while (even if the ideas gets a bit crazy)... If everyone just sit quietly and wait for the next chapter to come out then it would be boring...

HellecticMojo
11-23-2007, 04:33 AM
I know that they done the whole other perspective thing on the same situation on TRC and holic, but do you think that the story will ultimately be self contained?

Will it be like one of those things where you have to read both ends to understand at all?

I personally hate it when American comics do this with little captions like "read Avengers ## to catch up." or "to be concluded in New X-men ##"

Rain-chan
11-23-2007, 04:48 AM
No, It's not a Clamp thing, although they do like to link some of their mangas like x/1999 is sort of a continuation from Tokyo Babylon but Tokyo Babylon is a story by itself and can be understood without further reading x/1999... Plus, Tsubasa and Holic are parallel stories... so far it's ok and the two manga's are quite separated (dispite the jumping scenes in Holic), and I think they'll be selfcontained to the end.

jedimaster5000
11-23-2007, 02:54 PM
YES, I just heard from wiki that theres going to be a second season of xxxholic (I wonder if their going to add the Tsubasa stuff this time though)?

Tsuki
11-23-2007, 08:16 PM
well if they want to follow the manga properly they'll have to add some tsubasa scenes...

Magister Magi 13
11-23-2007, 08:40 PM
I still haven't seen the anime for xxxHolic. Any good? Does it follow the manga? I hope it does.

Rain-chan
11-23-2007, 09:51 PM
It's goining to be hard to add Tsubasa into Holic in the next season don't you think? The beginning of Tsubasa showed Syaoran & co. arriving at Yuuko's shop and she gave them Mokona... but that didn't happen in Holic... Then near the end of Holic when Yuuko went away on one of her jobs (The episode where Watanuki meet the lady and got sick) Yuuko was dressed in the outfit she only wear when meeting the Tsubasa ppls. So doesn't that mean Yuuko had already sent off the Tsubasa team but somehow Watanuki didn't met them in the Holic anime eventhough he should've?... it's really messed up -.-;;

But the animes are good in my opinion (even though the graphics is lacking, they could've done better on that). The anime trys to follow the manga but Watanuki does get to meet some people/clients that are not in the manga and some events happened at different times and the result turned out differently... etc.

Tsuki
11-23-2007, 10:35 PM
well.. it's difficult to add something that should have been there from the begining.... it's true that in holic they didn't meet the tsubasa-team, but in the episode when they are cleaning Yuuko's storage Maru and Moro are dusting the carpet with Fai's staf... so if they add something now it would be a bit confusing...

Rain-chan
11-24-2007, 06:38 AM
I think for the anime they are really trying to keep the two separate. Although it might be hard for Holic 2nd season if the mangas gets more and more involved with each other, especially if the manga does get finished. The anime producers may have dug themselves a hole that they can't climb out of unless they make up a completely different ending for Holic... which is going to be weired.... ... Other than that they might need to think of some way to get the anime's linked together.

syler
11-24-2007, 01:32 PM
i really like this story.. hehehe... i don't read the latest by now maybe tomorrow..

Magister Magi 13
11-24-2007, 05:36 PM
Then I guess I should tryt he anime then, coming out from all of your mouth make me feel as if it's very interesting. (Indeed)

fusugar
11-24-2007, 06:26 PM
i wonder whats up with kohane?
sorry to sound so evil but i hope shes dead
i dunno why but i really hate that kid

Athos
11-24-2007, 07:32 PM
wonder whats up with kohane?
sorry to sound so evil but i hope shes dead
i dunno why but i really hate that kid

Good god, you ARE evil.

Not that I don't have a hitlist myself, but Kohane? It's like killing Bambi!

Lainemaa
11-24-2007, 09:03 PM
Poor Kohane! lol

Weird, I don't have a hitlist for Holic. Must be because the cast is so small.

Magister Magi 13
11-24-2007, 10:28 PM
But I don't think Kohane deserved to die. I mean her life was already depressing enough and if she can cheer up I think it'll put a little more colour to the story (basically means making the story a bit livelier).

syler
11-25-2007, 04:35 AM
yeah your so evil.. i know konahe is not dead.. maybe she sick or something?;)

Magister Magi 13
11-25-2007, 07:53 AM
I don't think she's sick, it's just that her mother is making her life miserable. And she still call herself a mother? A selfish women like that!?

Rain-chan
11-25-2007, 09:04 AM
Yeah, I can't stand her mother either... hope she pays for all her greed... soon... hehe
Poor Kohane... yeah, if she gets killed it would be like killing Bambi... but then again, this is Clamp... they kill characters like a seasonal sport or something... -________-; ok, maybe not that bad, but you can't say they had a good record with killing characters in the past... especiall the darker mangas (Tokyo Babylon and X/1999)

fusugar
11-25-2007, 04:44 PM
so no one else hates kohane?
and lol im not that evil, she IS a fictional character

Magister Magi 13
11-25-2007, 06:08 PM
Well at least do have mercy. Even though she IS just a fictional character. No one would like to get killed.

j-star.tist
11-25-2007, 10:41 PM
why would kohane die? clamp is random but not that random. plus, doesnt she still have that balloon watanuki gave especially to her? and aish, i swear clamp fans are getting too antsy @_@ xxholic is another thread that has gone bonkers.

Rain-chan
11-25-2007, 11:23 PM
What do you mean 'antsy'? It's just how Clamp is... and incase you haven't read properly, most of us don't want Kohane to die...^^ But there's still a posibility that she is hit by a car or something... people are treathing her pretty badly after her last show...

This is a Clamp manga thread... If there's any thread out there that allows crazy theories it's this one... :lol: (actually, you're allowd crazy theories in any manga threads out there...) And just to add in another crazy theory, do you think Yuuko and Watanuki are related in some way?

Tsuki
11-26-2007, 06:07 PM
that's not too crazy.. If Watanuki and Yuuko are related.. that would make things a bit more complicated... (not that it's not complicated enough already...) But they are related by fate: they want to fulfill each other's wish...;)

Magister Magi 13
11-26-2007, 06:45 PM
Speaking of Yuuko wish. Anyone got any idea what it is? (Take a wild guess, I just want to listen to everybody opinion). Watanuki's wish is obvious, for the spritual creatures not to be attracted by him anymore.

Rain-chan
11-26-2007, 11:58 PM
Do you think Watanuki still wish for not attracting spirits after all the stuff he has been through? I think Watanuki has changed a lot from what he was like in the beginning... I think he as accepted the fact that he can see spirits and attracts... I don't think he'll mind as much if this wish no longer gets granted (probably has a more important wish now?)...
As for Yuuko... I think maybe her wish is just to be normal and be reliefed of her duties as the time-dimension witch? because from how she was talking about her 'relationship' with clow she seemed slightly envious of him because despite the fact that he's the strongest magician out there, he still has family, and is still 'human' and died when his time came. And she is binded by the rules of her own shop (i.e. she can't give other people anything but feelings without substracting a payment... this is kinda sad, especially when you want to help your friends and people important to you, you have to take something away from them as well)... In a way, she's like Watanuki...

Tsuki
11-27-2007, 06:05 PM
I don't think Yuuko's wish would be that obvious... (that would be too easy to guess...) I think her wish is something quite serious... (judging from her expression when Watanuki told her that he wants to fulfill her wish...)
Wonder what's her relation to Clow Reed....

Magister Magi 13
11-27-2007, 06:41 PM
In the beginning, she act as if he hates Clow Reed. But she does seem to know about Kinomato Sakura and Li Syaoran from CCS and she actually helps him to create the Mokona Modoki. So basically she knows Clow Reed very well but doesn't explain the detail or what so ever.

fusugar
11-27-2007, 10:14 PM
hmm fei wong reeds wish is to bring someone back from the dead right?
or did i just make that up:confused: after 170 or something chapters i can hardly remember my own name anymore
but anyway do you think that person could be clow reed?
like i know clow was supposed to be nice and hes the evil guy but then that could be the interesting twist
then yuuko liked clow so her wish could also be to bring back clow
but then shes not evil
my wish is for kohane to be hit by a car:lol:

fusugar
11-27-2007, 10:18 PM
also i thought yuuko seemed to enjoy being the almight space time witch
seems fun to me :P

Rain-chan
11-27-2007, 10:28 PM
No, Yuuko definitly has gotten more serious lately... makes you wonder if the childish act before was just for show and distracting Watanuki... And she was sad that she couldn't gave Watanuki a proper birthday present because the only thing she can give without taking payment are feelings... Somehow from the late chapters I get a sense that Yuuko is feeling sad inside for some reason...

As for Clow and Yuuko's relationship, well Fei Wang Reed did say that Yuuko was the only person the Clow trusted completely with his secrets (wonder what they are ^^)... and they have definitly worked together before with the mokona's and stuff... and Clow knew about Watanuki (make you wonder whether he's related to Clow in anyway...kinda looks like him...).

Athos
11-27-2007, 10:56 PM
Maybe Yuuko's wish is exactly that. To be able to fulfill someone's wish without having to ask something in return. Perhaps that's what she gave in return for her power to move between dimensions.

Rain-chan
11-28-2007, 02:41 AM
That's like what I had said before... but some people thought it was too obvious... ^^;; ... and I don't think she'll make her wish yet... maybe she'll near the end of the series?... hope she doesn't stop being the time-dymension witch though... ^^

Magister Magi 13
11-28-2007, 04:33 PM
I don't think that Yuuko will stop being the witch of dimension soon, since the Tsubasa group and Watanuki himself still need her. She even said it herself that the reason her shop exist is to help those chidren (which is what she calls them).

jedimaster5000
11-28-2007, 05:10 PM
Kind of take a long time for a new chapter to come out. But as long the next one is action I'm ok w/ it (or shows something really exciting to read).

Anyway, I wonder if I should watch the anime (the Funimation one obviously, since I already watched it subbed)

Tsuki
11-28-2007, 05:36 PM
The only thing making me confused about Yuuko's wish is this sentence on the cover of chapter 145:
"He wants to grant Yuuko's wish... That itself is the wish Watanuki made!"
Does this mean that the thing Yuuko wants is that Watanuki's wish to be granted? But he wants to accomplish it on his own, so Yuuko's wish is the success of Watanuki...? @.@

Mogx
11-28-2007, 08:53 PM
i just finished catching up to the latest xxxholi scan. i didn't realize how much it involved tsubasa chronicles. i want to know what her wish is. But the sentence of the ch 145 cover was confusing. it could mean that Yuuko wants Watanuki to realize he has the power to grant his own wish. It seems like most of the people that go into Yuuko's shop possess the power to grant their own wish but refuse to do it. Except for the tsubasa group for some reason. Not sure just a thought.

Rain-chan
11-28-2007, 09:16 PM
the sentence "He wants to grant Yuuko's wish... That itself is the wish Watanuki made!" could be read in many ways... I guess that's why it's a bit confusing. You were all right, it might mean Yuuko wishes Watanuki wish is to be granted, or that Watanuki has the ability to grant his own wish... or when Watanuki's wish is granted so would Yuukos... Ah, head spinning...@.@ getting even more confused :confused: :lol:

Tsuki
11-28-2007, 09:47 PM
so all we can do now is wait for the answer... or make up more crazy theories... :D

Athos
11-28-2007, 11:04 PM
Yuuko for president.

... ok crazy theories got their limits.

I'm sure it's nothing we can deduce out of the past events. I mean, who the hell would've guessed Syaoran's real identity based on the info they had given us up until that point?

Anyways, I know it will be something that's going to make us go "Oh riiight... Everything makes sense now. Should've thought of that."

Magister Magi 13
11-29-2007, 08:52 PM
Crazy theories ain't helping this time. Looks like the only thing to do is to wait for the answer. This is such a complicated serie, but I guess that is the interesting point of this serie.

Rain-chan
11-30-2007, 09:56 AM
But crazy theories are fun nonetheless... ^^
I still think that theory about Watanuki possibly being the decendent of Syaoran and Sakura and/or Clow Reed does make some sense... In this way their fates are connected...
And Watanuki is his family name right? That's quite an unusual family name to have, maybe it has something to do with his identity too... he's human but his blood attacting spirits and Yuuko did say it runs in the family (humm... trying to think of other characters from clamp that are similar -_-; ... it could be anyone who can do magic actually) and first of april is rather heavily related to Sakura...
As for Yuuko, I wonder who she really is... must've been alive for a long time... (or cheating time in her shop ^^; )

Athos
11-30-2007, 12:19 PM
Gotta admit, that makes quite a lot of sense. Sounds like a winner theory for me.

Mogx
11-30-2007, 06:34 PM
What about the connection with Doumeki and Watanuki? I forgot what character mentioned it but they said how those two are becoming like one...Oh yeah it was the little girl who can see spirits too, Kohane chan.

j-star.tist
12-01-2007, 02:24 AM
What do you mean 'antsy'? It's just how Clamp is... and incase you haven't read properly, most of us don't want Kohane to die...^^ But there's still a posibility that she is hit by a car or something... people are treathing her pretty badly after her last show...

This is a Clamp manga thread... If there's any thread out there that allows crazy theories it's this one... :lol: (actually, you're allowd crazy theories in any manga threads out there...) And just to add in another crazy theory, do you think Yuuko and Watanuki are related in some way?

^oy....i didn't mean antsy in a bad way, it was just my way of saying that the readers were gonna start jumping to their crazy conclusions left and right after reading the posted chapters. which is true based on the last few pages of this thread.


What about the connection with Doumeki and Watanuki? I forgot what character mentioned it but they said how those two are becoming like one...Oh yeah it was the little girl who can see spirits too, Kohane chan.

thank god someone else rememered that tidbit too. But it seems like clamp was distracting us from that theory. *shrug shoulder* i no longer know if it's an important factor or not.


also based on other responses, i think we can all agree that several of people's theories make sense to the story. but putting them together, there is no sense. Some say watanuki may be related to yuko. But then how is it that we know he's related to syaoran but syaoran is in no relationship with yuko? Things like that are "err."

however, someone did bring up something about yuko that got me thinking that she may be "timeless" in the sense she's forever, or invincible. It seems she's lived too long and may want out. Why she's envious of clow may be the fact that he could die and the fact that he he was able to divide his power to another and live on. Yuko seems restricted and confined to what she is. She is a butterfly afterall. Symbolicly or seriously, I'm not sure yet though. Then again, she may not even be timeless bc all living things come to an end as how clow once said. ...which leaves me questioning, was it ever stated if yuko was human or not? The subject was reached concerning watanuki and that may have foreshadowed on the whatabouts of yuko herself?

Rain-chan
12-01-2007, 07:33 AM
Crazy conclusions a fine with me ^^
As for Watanuki, if he's related to Syaoran then there's a considerable less chance that he's related to Yuuko... and what really was the relationship between Yuuko and Clow I wonder? Yuuko don't seem to like Clow's guts but Clow trusted her the most and they've worked together before...
And Domeki... he certainly have a connection with Watanuki (along with Himawari) as they helped to save him and are the only people Watanuki can remember now other than Yuuko... but their role in the storyline somehow has lessened a bit after all the attention been focused on the Holic-tsubasa relationship...

Magister Magi 13
12-01-2007, 07:49 PM
But I like it more when there're more cross over of each other, I think it's really cool to have a character of one serie appear in another.

I'm not sure how Watanuki, Doumeki, Himawari, and Yuuko are related. Obliviously they are not realated by blood, but I have to theory about this what-so-ever.

Rain-chan
12-01-2007, 09:40 PM
Yeah, but it's also good for Holic to hold up its own storyline (and so far its doing pretting good... but starting to tilt towards tsubasa...) But I guess it's only natural for Holic to end up connecting more and more with Tsubasa since the bad guy is in that manga :lol: (and you always need a bad guy :lol: )
But I still like Holic as it is by itself... even though tsubasa is good too ^^

Tuqui
12-02-2007, 12:48 AM
someone can tell me when it comes out the new chapter, because i read it since a short time i don´t know, it´s weekly or o monthly?

Rain-chan
12-02-2007, 07:11 AM
Well, xxxHolic chapters are released in the Yung magazine... the magazine has weekly releases but for these two weeks (at least) Holic new chapter releases are on hold...
The release dates are all up on Clamps original website (I think I already put it up in the Tsubasa thread this morning ^^; )
Anyway, it's:

http://www.clamp-net.com/index2.html

the site is generally in Japanese but I'm sure you'll figgure the dates out...^^

shematite
12-03-2007, 06:46 PM
Okay. I was reading all the crazy theories on here and decided to join the forum so I could throw mine into the melting pot as well!

Here goes: Shematite's crack xxxholic/tsubasa theory
-Fai noted that Fei Wang Reed's wish is the same as his own: to bring back someone who has died.
-Seishiro keeps talking about how Syaoran is just like his father.
-Fei Wang Reed described Xing Huo as also being a "failed experiment"
-Syaoran and Watanuki seem to have a very strong bond, even though they've only met in real life once and they really don't look a whole lot like each other.
-Yuuko told Watanuki that he and Syaoran are closer than anyone else.
-Syaoran seems very concerned that Watanuki should not dissapear.
-Watanuki seems to have a very tenuous grasp on reality at the moment.

My Conclusion: Fei Wang Reed is Syaoran's real father. Some time ago, Syaoran and Xing Huo died (still don't know who Xing Huo was). Greif-stricken, Fei Wang attempted to bring them back to life, but only partially succeeded. The part of Syaoran that didn't get brought back got reincarnated as Watanuki (yay!). Now, Fei Wang Reed is trying to gain control of time and space so that he can go back in time and save his son. Poor Syaoran is a zombie, having already partially died and been reincarnated, and now is working to stop Fei Wang Reed from destroying the space/time continuum and so he can rest in peace. And he's trying to convince Watanuki to stick around so the rest of him will have somewhere to go when he dies.

TADA! That's my crack xxxholic/tsubasa theory. Feel free to attack it and debate it and do whatever. It's just what came out of my brain after the recent chapters.

syler
12-04-2007, 01:34 AM
Rain-chan tnx for the info.. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

syler
12-04-2007, 01:41 AM
ohh... there is a new chapter released? iam not updated dis weak because my pc was broken..

wahhhhhhhhhhh... yeah its really complicated.. but thats wahat i like.. it makes me think.. teh heheheh

Tsuki
12-05-2007, 06:08 PM
shematite:

that's an interesting conclusion... I like your idea of Watanuki and Syaoran (I was thinking of something like that too...) The only point that doesn't seem right to me in this theory is this:
It seems to me that Fei Wang doesn't know about Watanuki's existence... but if Syaoran is Fei Wang's lost son and Watanuki is Syaoran reincarnation (or whatever...) then Fei Wang would probably know about Watanuki, because he's a dreamgazer and he 's searching for his son... or something like this...:confused:

Rain-chan
12-05-2007, 09:32 PM
Split reincarnation... interesting theory, Clow was able to do that in CCS so I guess if it was Syaoran he could do it too...^^
But Tsuki was right, Fei wang would probably know about Watanuki in this case...
I still have to question who Wataniki really is despite the fact Yuuko said he's human... since she said something about the reality is what you believe in...

Tsuki
12-10-2007, 09:35 PM
Anyone read the new chapter yet?
So Kohane-chan didn't die... (not that I wanted her to...)
Seems she 'just' lost her powers for some reason...

Lainemaa
12-11-2007, 02:17 AM
It doesn't say that she lost her powers, just that she wasn't able to find the ghost of a missing person. Maybe there wasn't a ghost to be found. Like in that earlier chapter when she found more ghosts than the other mediums and was though to be wrong because of that. I wonder how Watanuki and Domeki will be able to help her though, talking sense to her mother? Taking her to Yuuko's shop? Calling the police on her mother? Poor Kohane.

Rain-chan
12-11-2007, 08:47 AM
yeah, kohane has always been on a different level to all the other mediums... or maybe she just don't want to follow her mother anymore and this is her way of breaking out? Don't know if Yuuko will get involved though, I think she might let Watanuki handle this one by himself ^^

j-star.tist
12-13-2007, 02:50 AM
The last impression I got was that perhaps kohane was being supressed by the ghosts that she sees. It seemed like clamp wanted to show that the ghosts were still surrounding her though. But it seems like a big thing is about to happen in concerns that watanuki is about to make his own decision and "do what he must do". AND, isn't that what the rsyaoran pretty much told him, such as how the rsyaoran was gonna do what he had to and so must watanuki. but if this is so...it questions my thought on his relationship to the clone and perhaps there is none between the two? TT_TT

Rain-chan
12-14-2007, 11:37 AM
Feel sory for Watanuki though... he's gonna be blamed by Kohane's mother b/c she'll think he tooke her daughter's power away... it's going to be interesting to see...
I feel evil saying this but I hope Kohane's mother end up paying for all her greed...

adrastea
12-15-2007, 11:51 PM
I was just rereading chapter 117 , after watanuki falls from the window.
And after that he can' move his right hand little finger.

that happend with the woman who lied as well.
what does the finger mean?

Rain-chan
12-18-2007, 09:25 AM
little finger generally means promise/contract (to one's self and others) in many cultures... that's why you pinky swear with it ^^ .
In Japanese mythologies the little pinky is said to have the red string of fate attached to it when a person is born (like episode 9 of the holic anime)... it is a similar Chinese/korean? belief too, although sometimes in China it is said the red string of fate is tied to ones ankle.

In holic, when the woman lied, she lied to other people but also herself (thus the lying became a habbit) so she broke a promise to herself.

With Watanuki, he make a promise with Himawari that he'll be careful. But since Himawari leads everyone she encounters to an ill fate, her good intentions were turned and so the promise was broken. That's how I see it... really confusing ^^:

adrastea
12-21-2007, 02:34 AM
Yes it is confusing but thank you for the information. I hope Yuuko will explain it later on^^.
It something that I really enjoy in this manga learning about japanese folklores and myths.

syler
12-22-2007, 01:53 AM
sometimes it confuse me.. but i really like the story.. i learn many things..

Rain-chan
12-28-2007, 12:45 AM
Yeah... just want it to be updated a bit more faster... don't know why Clamp kept on putting it on hold :( ... and it had to keep in pace with tsubasa... but somehow it feels like 2-3 tsubasa chapters = 1 holic chapter... *sigh*

syler
12-30-2007, 11:20 AM
thats right i waited so long for the xxxholic chapter..
i want more xxxholic!!

Rain-chan
01-13-2008, 11:30 AM
... No update:( ... *feeling depressed*
Now that sakura has semi-died in tsubasa we need some reaction in Holic! ^^
I'm just dying to find out what the actual story is ^^;;... but clamp will just keep us guessing ne

HikariNoYami
01-14-2008, 04:31 AM
Isn't 2-3 TRC chapters = 1 xxxholic chapter? xxxHolic is a supplement, not necessary, but there because there's another line to follow.

I hope Kohane's fine and that we find out what's Watanuki's real purpose is, and what he is to Syaoran and Sakura.

xingese_alchemist
01-17-2008, 09:37 PM
whyyyyy clamp whyyyyyyy

why is the weekly trc packed with like 20 pages these weeks, but xxxholic, which doesnt appear too often anyways, only 12 pages. TWELVE, SHORT, PAGES!

not that trc isnt bad. its quite good. but holic is taking second seat when it should be equal to trc. like ^ said, its a supplement, but not entirely.

anyways, for those who want to know, ch 148 (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24450) is available on manga helpers, thanks to zidane21ps

sigh.... holic's schedule seems erratic, and like it's beginning to lose steam. im tempted to drop it, but i still think its a good series, especially when read in tandem with trc.

kohane is a great character i think, but we're beginning to see repetition. we know that her mom hasn't said her name. we know that her mom treats her like dirt. the only new things is the relation with the dad and also that watanuki and doumeki are going to the tv studio.

this chapter... is like filler almost.

syler
01-18-2008, 12:02 AM
now new chapter is on one manga.. so i think will wait many months again for the new chapter..
it makes me sick waiting... :P

Lainemaa
01-18-2008, 01:23 AM
The thing that bugs me the most is the short chapters. I wouldn't mind the slow pace, the repetition etc. if only we'd get chapters of decent lenght every once in a while. Nothing can happen when it's only twelve pages.

ChaoRin019
01-18-2008, 01:49 AM
so sad. feel so sorry for kohane whose so kawaii. have such a sad life. hate the mother.
thought this chapter would be about latest tsubasa event.

xingese_alchemist
01-18-2008, 04:39 AM
well, considering how watanuki got kicked out like right before this fight, and this fight doesnt seem very long, like... 3 chapters for a bit of chit chat and many panels of choreographic fighting, etc etc...

i didnt really think watanuki would get back in so quickly, especially with wat seems to happening to kohane

Tuqui
01-18-2008, 04:24 PM
jey its ok that this last chapter is only 12 pages?

pengallow
01-19-2008, 08:28 PM
I don't think we even got the whole chapter. There are usually more than twelve pages. I'm sorry, but if you're going to scanlate and post a chapter, AT LEAST DO THE WHOLE CHAPTER. :ninja:

ChaoRin019
01-19-2008, 08:45 PM
chapter 147 was 12 pages too though.
chapter 148 only missing credits page.

Rain-chan
01-28-2008, 04:52 AM
... yeah, 12 pages is a bit short for a chapter, it's a bit anoy to read 3 chapters then finally get an idea where the story is going... *sigh* but there isn't anything we can do about it...

Anyway, Feel sorry for Kohane too... but I think she has decided to try and get herself out of the situation... I don't think Yuuko will interfere with this one though, 'its all up to the children' as she says.

Still a little confused about Watanuki's predectment though... so because he can not remember the rest of the world but his friends and Yuuko he's starting to think that he may not exist in this world anymore?... I really hope we'll get some good answers soon...

Twi
01-31-2008, 12:08 AM
Those people take stuff ay to serious if they hurt a little girl for a pathetic reason like that.

ChaoRin019
01-31-2008, 12:15 AM
they think theyre always right and their opinion is always right.
theyre not even that powerful compared to kohane.

Twi
01-31-2008, 12:30 AM
I agree that everyone was right at the time, but to harm a child or anyone for trival reasons is a load of crap, that's like the death threats issued to the maker of evangaline about the ending, overkill.

ChaoRin019
01-31-2008, 12:37 AM
the police probably believe shes a liar too.
or else they might help her out

Jammerjoint
01-31-2008, 12:37 AM
I really want to kick Kohane's mom out the window right now, but I can't because I've lost my steam from the excessive wait, and the ridiculously short chapters. Heh, I remember reading Vampire Knight, the first chapter was 55 pages long. Jeez, how the manga has fallen. I HATE it when this happens, I'd rather wait 3 weeks for 50 pages than 1 week for a measly 12.

ChaoRin019
01-31-2008, 12:41 AM
emancipation. yuuko be guardian for a price