View Full Version : Black Beard Vs Portgas D. Ace
Santoryu
08-17-2007, 03:20 PM
As everyone knows the fight between those to was left at a stand still. Before the battle Teach mentioned that he needed to defeat someone with a high bounty on their head so he chose luffy. so what i think (this is totally a theory) is that teach defeated Ace(killing him) so when luffy hears about this it will bring about their battle.
the question that has been on my ming is did Ace lose because at the end you see his hat fall to the ground.
Raiden
08-17-2007, 03:51 PM
I dont think that Blackbeard killed Ace, I think that he hand over ace to the marien because he has also a high bounty probably even higher than Luffys
Zero Shiki
08-17-2007, 03:52 PM
i think they both survived but wit injuries or somebody lost a body part.
or maybe they both left there mark on each other like wit shanks and whoever gave him those scatches.
Santoryu
08-17-2007, 04:06 PM
i think they both survived but wit injuries or somebody lost a body part.
or maybe they both left there mark on each other like wit shanks and whoever gave him those scatches.
Shanks said it was blackbeard who gave him that scar
shanks said this in the episode when he meets up with whitebeard
Zero Shiki
08-17-2007, 04:14 PM
thats right, now i remember then maybe he marked ace as well.
Santoryu
08-17-2007, 04:18 PM
I doubt that because if he wants to challenge Luffy the best way to draw him out is by defeating he brother because as you know luffy hates people hurting his nakama imagine the anger he would be in if his brother was harmed Perfect way for teach to draw him out
Zero Shiki
08-17-2007, 04:19 PM
but ace couldnt be beat up that easily. blackbeard had to get hurt as well. how would he hear aboutit? wer would he find blackbeard?
Santoryu
08-17-2007, 04:25 PM
Ace wouldnt be hurt that bad but by the looks of it he was defeated but not killed these are only theories say if he kept Ace as a hostage nullifying his logia DF powers with his powers & how the news will get to him you know that Ace is a well feared pirate so if he was being held hostage the navy would know & if the navy knows soon pirates would know (just a theory)
Ussop
08-17-2007, 04:42 PM
Most likely, BB kept Ace to give the WG, to prove that BB is worthy of being a Shicibukai.
Dark Schneider
08-17-2007, 10:31 PM
Chances are he will simply hand Ace over to the Marines for a place in the Shichibukai.
Only fodder characters die in One Piece. Oda has openly stated he gets attached to his characters and does not like to kill them off.
Xeauron
08-17-2007, 10:37 PM
Blackbeard either captured Ace and is going to use him as a hostage to draw out Luffy or he ended up killing him, Ace didn't know the dangers of fighting in a One Piece flashback
Santoryu
08-17-2007, 11:00 PM
Chances are he will simply hand Ace over to the Marines for a place in the Shichibukai.
Only fodder characters die in One Piece. Oda has openly stated he gets attached to his characters and does not like to kill them off.
Well isnt he a fodder character you say his is I say he isnt because well let me put it this way he might be the brother of the main character but is he a main character. if you think about it how much have we seen of Ace to say he is a main character not a fodder character we have seen more of Johnny & Yosaku & they arent even main characters. so even though Oda said that i doubt he was thinking of Ace.
death incarnate
08-18-2007, 02:27 AM
yeah, i don't like the idea of ace being dead or being captured by the marines. so i'm going to say that he was simply defeated. he was knocked out or is in hiding. or better yet they tied and teach got knocked so they had to strategically retreat.
Zero Shiki
08-18-2007, 02:49 AM
i dont know wat to guess cuz there r alot of possibilties.
Blaze
08-18-2007, 04:05 AM
Ahh,Teach was famous pirate so I don't think Oda would make him die that easily,and for Ace he got 60% of tying with Teach,30% winning,and 10% dying...
Zero Shiki
08-18-2007, 04:38 AM
yeah i agree wit that he has to fight wit luffy.
Blaze
08-18-2007, 04:42 AM
ahh i wonder why Ace didn't use Holy water against Teach...it would be uber pwnage..
Zero Shiki
08-18-2007, 04:48 AM
is that a attack or do u mean like water blessed by a pope or high rankin holy person
Blaze
08-18-2007, 04:50 AM
yes i mean that xD though it would probally also wipe out Ace's logia power..
Zero Shiki
08-18-2007, 05:05 AM
which one?!?! maybe.
Blaze
08-18-2007, 05:17 AM
Ace uses a fire logia fruit..
Zero Shiki
08-18-2007, 05:21 AM
i know that i mean wen we wer talkin about who makes holy water.
I don't believe that ace can lose!
Captaingod
08-18-2007, 02:24 PM
I'd like the following scenario: BB defeates Ace and leaves him to the WG, the WG accepts this and let's BB be free as a Schicxkaxvjshaubai, this would give Luffy a reason to once again attack the WG and free his elder brother..
Zero Shiki
08-18-2007, 02:33 PM
thas a possibility but i dont think ace would lose that bad.
MyRedz
08-18-2007, 03:09 PM
yes you all know they two are equal...
hallow_dog
08-18-2007, 03:27 PM
I don't believe that ace can lose!
i think the same thing
Ussop
08-18-2007, 05:13 PM
Well, if Ace won, what would trigger? Remember at the end of the fight, it was said that the fight lead to the beginning of something.
tsunade666
08-19-2007, 10:14 AM
ace probably get beaten I can't think of an explanation of darkness getting beaten by flame
and that will be a great arc luffy rescuing ace and got war again with the world government but that will also be bad its like a mimic of what happen to robin but still thats an awesome idea
Raiden
08-19-2007, 11:36 AM
yeah and maybe we will see the 5 wise man(the 5 bosses of the WG) in an battle against the Mugiwaras one of them has a sword so maybe an opponent for Zoro?^^
pokemaster95
08-19-2007, 10:10 PM
I think Instead of going after Luffy for his bounty I think he will turn in Ace for his bounty to World Goverment and instead of Getting a Bounty on his head he will ask to be warlord Luffy will hear this news and want to kick some ***.
kami-sama
08-20-2007, 10:37 PM
I'd like the following scenario: BB defeates Ace and leaves him to the WG, the WG accepts this and let's BB be free as a Schicxkaxvjshaubai, this would give Luffy a reason to once again attack the WG and free his elder brother..
I AGREE AND I HOPE THAT WE GET TO SEE LUFFY FIGHT AKOJI
Zero Shiki
08-21-2007, 01:48 AM
maybe whitebeard will send someone to go rescue him.
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