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Raiden
03-31-2008, 04:18 PM
that is a good point Black Chocobo and I think the same way you are. Katou's dead made him to a better person/leader and Tae made him to a better fighter, because he wanted t osurvive for her, so he got his strenghts out of this thought, while his leadership qualities came from the reminding at katou.
Ok I admit it might be true.
I don't mind forget about Kei he's dead, hopefully beyond the ending of this manga.
Now Katou's back and he didn't do some leadership things, but instead went with the Osakan's, what a traitor
Topic change... after the vamps united with Tokyo they (Tokyo) were not shown until Nuri came to them and then... the vamps were not with them, where are they... lurking in the shadows to wait for their chance to come, like Nishi? Then they're bound to die.
I would not call him a traitor. the team had moved on with out him. he didn't feel he had a place in the team. their goals and his were different. they wanted to survive, so they did not engage and just found a small coffee shop to sip mocha latte's in while they watched the battle. He went out to fight, because he felt he owed a debt to Kei. even Rekia () gave up on him to an extent. Any way I'm getting off topic he's not a traitor for going his own way. The vamps are traitors for slicing up other aliens.
speaking of the vamps, they are probably staying out of the way biding their time waiting for the round to end. they do not care if the mission succeeds or fails.
Actulally Host Vamp is out trying to end the mission quickly so he can "get his finger back".
So yeah I see it like Mrdelta and Black Chocobo the Vampires doesnt care about the outcome of the mission. Host Vamp just want to survive to get his finger back and maybe also to safe the vamp chic.(so he wouldnt ever say it^^)
Pansori
04-01-2008, 02:15 AM
And who thinks or hopes Vamp chick dies? *raises hand*
I'm still not understanding what Host Vamp's place is going to be in the grand scheme of things. It wouldn't surprise me if he survives this mission but somehow gets killed afterwards during the off mission moment.
BTW, I watched a documentary this morning about those Japanese "Hosts" that Host Vamp is patterned after. I knew their job was to joke and flirt with women, I didn't realize that 90% of their clientèle are prostitutes, strippers and hostesses. Some of the hosts even encourage women to go into prostitution so they could afford visiting the host bars.
It's a fascinating doc.
Black Chocobo
04-01-2008, 02:26 AM
OT: That documentary actually does sound very interesting.
On topic: I think Host Vamp may stick around for a while; he's stuck in the game but I don't think he'd be stupid enough to let everyone find out or he'll likely make up some ellaborate ploy to get the other vamps to agree to lettting him stay there, and he seems to be the strongest of the vamps and may have some pull in the organization.
Pansori
04-01-2008, 02:36 AM
I agree, but it's hard to say. I thought the thug that tried to rape Kishi was going to become a main character... and then he went and got himself killed during the off mission. Same with Kei's brother (but I have my suspicions about him).
Black Chocobo
04-01-2008, 04:36 AM
Even though I think Akira (Kei's brother) was a complete douche cake, I suspect that he may not be gone for good. Although he could've just been used to shed a little light on the vampire situation.
kr4us
04-01-2008, 04:50 AM
Pretty epic battle still going on. I want to see Oka and the details on how to get his kickass suit and the vampires with the hunters is a nice little twist too.
Don't mind, Pansi, I thought Kei's gonna revive the unnamed Sniper instead of some douche bag like Nishi^^
Documentary... those womens are obviously desperate for some meaningless flirting... hmm... call me! Ladies^^
Host Vampire... Duh he killed two good strong aliens, maybe his time on Gantz is already up? (aliens strong enough to defeat Sadist Trio whom had combined 300 points), anyway the place is shrinking and he was last shown with Tokyo so where the hell did he go (with the girl on his back), I don't guess the area is much greater than 3 blocks by now.
Tae... only loved her when she had blowed (had to say that)
kr4us... The chapter's been delayed it's sad..... Oka's equipment (what remained of it) will be shown to full potential, but crucial information on how he got it in detail, will only be given when he speaks his first words, I imagine him being asked by Tokyo, after they see his head, and then he walks away cool and chilled, without saying anything.
Oka could be.....
- Me
- Delta
- Kurono
- Kishimoto (the 2nd one)
- 5 year old girl
- Akira Kurono
- Panda
- Monkey with huge arms
Pansori
04-01-2008, 03:33 PM
Don't mind, Pansi, I thought Kei's gonna revive the unnamed Sniper instead of some douche bag like Nishi^^
NOOOOO!!!! I like the Sniper and all, but I was glad to see Nishi come back. I love that middle schooler. And while Sniper had skill, Nishi has personality. :p
Even if he is a backstabbing coward who gets pwned a lot and cries for his mommy, I still love him.
Documentary... those womens are obviously desperate for some meaningless flirting... hmm... call me! Ladies^^
Living up to your pervert title? :lol:
As for Host... I hope his story ends up being a real good one. Even though I'm wondering where we're going with him, I'm not quite ready to see him gone. He's too damn sexy to be killed.
And Tae... I was waiting for the bj reference. :p Honstly, I thought more guys would like her, just because she swallowed.
And if Oka is Kishimoto in any way, shape or form I will scream.
Black Chocobo
04-01-2008, 04:04 PM
Yeah Host kicks too much *** to die now and I like Tae, the fact that she's not afraid to choke down a salty cocktail gives her bonus points in my book.
Aw man, how can you not like Nishi. Next to Kei Nishi is the baddest of all the asses.
lol I found that for some reaon not too many people like Kishimoto, particularly girls. Come on she was a cute girl. She was just a little love-struck and kinda ditzy, but I more or less pity her then hate her.
salty cocktail
y should I quote more of the post^^
It was the only time Tae was dear in my heart.
Host: (@ Choci, Pansi) It's ok you love him, but any suggestions? where is he now?
Aw man, how can you not like Nishi. Next to Kei Nishi is the baddest of all the asses.
Since he cried for his mommy (and the anime elaborated a bit on that scene) I don't think so. He's just more coldhearted.
Sniper's skills are outta league, I guess! He tested out Gantz' equipment and hid for surprise attack in a dead body, I mean WTF? He's da best. What if Sniper gets the H-Gun......? think of the possibilities, I do not hate Nishi, but I don't want him instead of Jyuzu Togo (Sniper).
Pansi... yeah living for the title. :D
Black Chocobo
04-01-2008, 05:39 PM
IDK where Host could be there were a lot of aliens that were still lurking around so maybe he's been slicing up some up to get the mission over w/?
I liked the sniper, he was the only minor character that was playable in the PS2 game. I hoped he would've survived that ordeal. But Nishi's roast of the entire Tokyo team in the anime is classic and not to mention that he's only like 14 but already a battle-hardened war vet.
Pansori
04-02-2008, 12:35 PM
lol I found that for some reaon not too many people like Kishimoto, particularly girls. Come on she was a cute girl. She was just a little love-struck and kinda ditzy, but I more or less pity her then hate her.
This was my response to someone on another forum who said I was "being too hard Kishi": Sorry, no way am I being too hard on Kishimoto. She was a DUMB ***. She was who Oku must have been thinking of when he said: "Women are either thinking of nothing, etc etc..." Her last minute redemption was similar to Izumi, and NEITHER worked for me. She had a serious "Ooops, I didn't realize my breasts were pouring out of my low button shirt... Now can you please save me from these big bad aliens???" complex.
Thank GOD Reika came along and showed us that a woman can be beautiful AND a bad ***. On the same note, thank God for Tae, who's proof you don't have to be a 36 DDD to be beautiful. Kishi, as she was, made us ladies look BAD.
And where is Host now? He's with the panda, stalking the 100. :ninja:
Mican
04-02-2008, 12:58 PM
nishi is a ****n pansy. Dont see why he has so many fans.
Pansi... Everyone is calling you Pansi^^
I disagree for Tae she wasn't beautful... only when she blowed and I mean this also let's girls look bad. Seriously the only girl on Gantz who let's women shine in the right light is Reika.
Lainemaa
04-02-2008, 02:16 PM
I'd guess Host Vamp is stashing his girlfriend somewhere safe(r) and will appear again soon with a witty comment.
Can you tell I like him?
I hate Kishimoto too. Tae is slightly better than Reika but neither is a favourite. I'd like to see either an older female character, and by older I mean 25+, or a woman with actual useful skills. For all her effort Reika's still litte more than a pretty face and sincere attitude.
Sorain_Hyuuga
04-02-2008, 02:45 PM
i like gantz and all but its starting to piss me off, with the already long waits for chapters they need to rap this last mission up, its getting stupid and is putting the story line on the hugist stand still.
Black Chocobo
04-02-2008, 03:08 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Never speak against Gantz for it will be deemed blasphemy and you shall be burned a the stake. The long wait gets tiresome at times but Oku delivers everytime. Unlike Naruto when it came back from the holidays with that lazy Itachi v. Sasuke stint.
And while Reika is a big step up from Kishimoto and the other faceless skanks that have fallen prey to Gantz aliens and her leadership skills are pretty good, she still admits she pretty shallow and she crumbles under pressure and desperately seeks out Kei.
Lai..... maybe... would be sparse if his short fight with the 2 sword aliens will remain his only screen-time.
Lai, Choci..... Reika... she's powerful, Oku loves her... She defeated about 30 Oni Aliens (default ones) and even the basic Oni Alien was depicted as powerful with a powerful spit acid, of course she defeated them off-screen... after all her on-screen fights depicted her shuttering in fear (Ultimate Oni) or opting to run away (Nuri)
But Kishimoto is weaker and dumber she was Kei's... pet (haha^^) and was degraded into an object of lust, her skills were weak her character was expendable... Chapter 91 (or 92) depicted Kei seeking for Kishimoto's 2nd self, after that she was never mentioned again (save for a few "I will revive these persons" scenes)
Sori H..... Gantz is bi-weekly after all... do not expect the manga togo by your head, fighting was always a big partof Gantz and story as we know a rather small one (save character development) all Chapters between Oni and Osaka had been story-progressing ones and now? We have the craziest mission ever with a perv ****ing an alien right in the mission, though one big alien arrives and urges to kill him. (that was my "Golden Moment"^^)
That is all.
Pansi... don't scream! Oka could be me and then it's good.
Pansori
04-02-2008, 05:56 PM
Pansi... Everyone is calling you Pansi^^
I disagree for Tae she wasn't beautful... only when she blowed and I mean this also let's girls look bad. Seriously the only girl on Gantz who let's women shine in the right light is Reika.
Everyone is calling me Pansi? Well I guess I have you to thank then. ^^
Even in life I don't think many people deserve to be called ugly. They have to be really fugly for me to say anything. That being said I think Tae is beautiful!! Tae was like a breath of fresh air. Before her the women of Gantz was all t&a, which is amusing at first, and then after a while it's pretty superficial. Tae is beautiful in a more realistic sense... because not every girl has breasts the size of her head. :p I especially like the fact that Kei managed to fall in love with her. It really showed his growth. Because Chapter 1 Kei wouldn't have given that poor girl the time of day.
I like Reika because of her flaws. She's beautiful and yet she's probably one of the most conflicted characters. Because of her shortcomings she strives to be better. She's admirable in the same sense that Muscle Rider is.
As for the blowjob scene... I think Oku was trying to show how much Tae really loved Kei. Of course he did it in a way most guys would want to see. Candles, wine... a deep look in the girl's eyes while she poured out her heart about her devotion is just too dragged out. Let the girl perform oral sex and swallow. NOW THAT'S REAL LOVE!!! :rolleyes:
I'd like to see either an older female character, and by older I mean 25+, or a woman with actual useful skills..
Yes, as much as I like these little girls I want to see a woman as well!!! We need to be represented. Lara Croft was so freakin' awesome, even if she was desperate and insecure. But now we need a woman with mad skillz and not so much weakness.
And while Reika is a big step up from Kishimoto and the other faceless skanks that have fallen prey to Gantz aliens and her leadership skills are pretty good, she still admits she pretty shallow and she crumbles under pressure and desperately seeks out Kei.
I don't think she crumbles under pressure or seeks Kei out. Albeit she hasn't made the best of decisions, but she's pulled it together when others have panicked. And she let Kei go.
Pansi... don't scream! Oka could be me and then it's good.
Hmm, I was thinking more along the lines of maybe Oka being Delta?? He seems stealthy. :ninja:
Even in life I don't think many people deserve to be called ugly. They have to be really fugly for me to say anything. That being said I think Tae is beautiful!! Tae was like a breath of fresh air. Before her the women of Gantz was all t&a, which is amusing at first, and then after a while it's pretty superficial. Tae is beautiful in a more realistic sense... because not every girl has breasts the size of her head. :p I especially like the fact that Kei managed to fall in love with her. It really showed his growth. Because Chapter 1 Kei wouldn't have given that poor girl the time of day.
I like Reika because of her flaws. She's beautiful and yet she's probably one of the most conflicted characters. Because of her shortcomings she strives to be better. She's admirable in the same sense that Muscle Rider is.
As for the blowjob scene... I think Oku was trying to show how much Tae really loved Kei. Of course he did it in a way most guys would want to see. Candles, wine... a deep look in the girl's eyes while she poured out her heart about her devotion is just too dragged out. Let the girl perform oral sex and swallow. NOW THAT'S REAL LOVE!!! :rolleyes:
You're a girl...hmm.. I recall finding many girls beautiful but this question doesn't occur in my sense, I never said any of the girls would look beautiful (If I did say s.th. good about their looking I was stoned)
You know why? Cause it's a manga and that's the difference, Don't get me wrong (this post is almost bound to be gotten wrong) but I never ever said s.th. good about their looks only about the character and this is what I do with a manga, that's why I say Tae isn't beautiful she would but not in my mind. I could also dream of sleeping with all the moe CLANNAD Girls but hey... I love Tae having the courage to blow, instead of a dinner, I love character emphasised girls but I don't mind beauty. Not in Manga, so the question if ugly or not, referring to real life as you did in your first 2 lines doesn't pose to me.
Yes, as much as I like these little girls I want to see a woman as well!!! We need to be represented. Lara Croft was so freakin' awesome, even if she was desperate and insecure. But now we need a woman with mad skillz and not so much weakness.
mmh... maybe... bring some woman in, what about the old woman with the boy from Tanaka Alien Mission?
Hmm, I was thinking more along the lines of maybe Oka being Delta?? He seems stealthy. :ninja:
Wha? Delta? No way... I know he's seems everywhere I wonder when his new post will come up, It's gonna be destroying. :ninja:
Pansori
04-02-2008, 06:36 PM
You know why? Cause it's a manga and that's the difference, Don't get me wrong (this post is almost bound to be gotten wrong) but I never ever said s.th. good about their looks only about the character and this is what I do with a manga, that's why I say Tae isn't beautiful she would but not in my mind. I could also dream of sleeping with all the moe CLANNAD Girls but hey... I love Tae having the courage to blow, instead of a dinner, I love character emphasised girls but I don't mind beauty. Not in Manga, so the question if ugly or not, referring to real life as you did in your first 2 lines doesn't pose to me.
One of the qualities that I like about Gantz is that the art is (for the most part) realilstic. Having a parade of girls skip through with overemphasized bodies was one of the unrealitstic things about Gantz. Having a normal girl adds to the realism, and thst's why I made the comparison.
I'm sorry, I don't know what s.th means?? :confused:
And no... not the old woman... I was thinking more along of the lines of someone between the ages of 25-35.
Cross Marian
04-02-2008, 06:41 PM
lol reika does not have a realistic body when they dont focus on it its normal but when they do she has huge tits
25-35 so about your age?
s.th. simply means "something" I abbreviate alot to make posting easier so I keep on saying Pansi, Choci or Lai
Nah don't mind I'm not this one of an Otaku, so I rather do draw a line between manga and reality.
€ the first time I was beaten outside the games thread.
CM... Yeah It's typical for bust sizes in manga to change depending on focus and angle.
Pansori
04-02-2008, 06:47 PM
...but when they do she has huge tits
I know, and speaking as an Asian female, most of us just do not come in that size. :(
Nah don't mind I'm not this one of an Otaku, so I rather do draw a line between manga and reality.
I don't know if you're calling me an otaku and trying to be offensive, or just making a general comment??? :confused:
what? You think I'm out here to tell Otaku are bad, nah... It was the general comment, after all Otaku read manga for their reasons and what was a bit offensive I admit... is that I'm saying every Otaku blends manga and reallife a bit, but it wasn't meant to be mean.
on topic... well there has to be topic...
when does the new chapter come out... this weekend?
Pansori
04-02-2008, 06:54 PM
OK, sorry, wasn't sure. :)
I heard no new chapter this week, but I'm not certain.
Aah noo. I'm tired of reading Naruto only every Friday... well I promised Alex to read KHR so there're things I can kill my time with.
And what'cha think about Oka? I'm suggesting after all... he dies..... it can be possible don't you think, maybe Oku comes along with a new team only to be badass mangaka and killing them all off until the end of the mission.
Black Chocobo
04-02-2008, 07:09 PM
I don't think she crumbles under pressure or seeks Kei out. Albeit she hasn't made the best of decisions, but she's pulled it together when others have panicked. And she let Kei go. Well she doesn't necesarily break down into a hysteric fit or run around like a chicken w/ her head cut off like Inaba, but there has been evidence that she's no good under extreme pressure. Super Gantz links attack!
http://www.onemanga.com/Gantz/213/03/-And almost every page after that.
http://www.onemanga.com/Gantz/229/16/-This wouldn't hold any bearing if Izumi didn't witness the whole scene w/ the Oni boss.
And that she's kinda lost w/o Kei:
http://www.onemanga.com/Gantz/213/07/
http://www.onemanga.com/Gantz/213/09/
I don't feel like wasting time explaining about how as soon as they went into their first mission w/o Kei they all fell apart and tried to cheat the game. Not saying Reika's this horrible person, just that like the other chars she's flawed and people tend to look over it. While not giving poor Kishimoto the benefit of the doubt.
On an non-Reika note I would lol if Oka was like some brain in a jar which is why he can't escape the game.
Lai, Choci..... Reika... she's powerful, Oku loves her... She defeated about 30 Oni Aliens (default ones) and even the basic Oni Alien was depicted as powerful with a powerful spit acid, of course she defeated them off-screen... after all her on-screen fights depicted her shuttering in fear (Ultimate Oni) or opting to run away (Nuri)
Choci... Thx for outlining and finding proof for what me and you said, I'm the lazy type. ;)
Reika is lost without Kei, I just don't see Tokyo going anwhere it's depressive how they opted to get some coffee and leaving everything to Osaka,but also Old Man is nothing more than a normal side character without his bond to Kei.
I'd really like seeing Oku change that but not by reviving Kei, as I said many times. They shall find their senses and get back into badass fighting, or they're bound to be wiped.
Black Chocobo
04-02-2008, 07:24 PM
Well it's no problem I got time to spare and IMO Gantz is the greatest invention of the 21st century!!
Am a fanboy? No, of course not. ^__^
Also Gantz resumes it's rightful position in the top 20. :penguin:
Of course I'm no Gantz fanboy but I like it quite much.
And what'cha think about Oka? I'm suggesting after all... he dies..... it can be possible don't you think, maybe Oku comes along with a new team only to be badass mangaka and killing them all off until the end of the mission.
Still... this thread also handles theories so if anyone has an idea or opinion on Oka's possible death, he may speak now (or be silent forever ;))
€: Top 20 it did? Cool. It's on 14 O.O
wonder if that really skilled person from osaka is a girl or a boy, cant tell from all the armor, but i think they said it was a boy, i'd just like to believe its a girl thatd be pretty interesting
Black Chocobo
04-02-2008, 07:56 PM
Well like I said a brain in a jar would be odd o.O but still Gantzy (my word I coryrighted it). But it would be awesome if it was like some little girl that collects stuffed animals. Or if it was the bum from the anime that got his brains splattered.
Mrdelta
04-02-2008, 09:20 PM
OK I admit it. I am Oka the hyper intelligent panda. after this mission me and hoi hoi are going out on a night on the town till we are eventually rounded up and sent back to our respective zoos. after words we will never talk again though she does still send me e-mail from time to time.
I will admit I liked Tae more before the whole dependence on Kei thing but she is still a very human character. I still like her and I still hope Oku does not toss her aside.
I do not think its fair to judge Reika's actions this mission. the whole team is still recovering from a huge blow and her especially as she did have a chance at saving him. under the oni alien mission she was scared but she still pushed on, and Kei in the early days did the same. she has potential as a second in command.
Black Chocobo
04-02-2008, 09:57 PM
No. No excuses. Kei had to learn the hard way how he should and shouldn't behave during missions. So when the current team appeared they had the ultimate example to go by. Now that he's gone is not a good excuse to fall apart and cower in a corner like Inaba during the Oni mission. I applaud Oku for making them act like real people would 90% of the time, but that doesn't neccessarily make them right.
Kato's best friend died right before his eyes but he still had the resolve to get the Vamps to fight for them and he saved a lot of people going into the mission w/ just a capture gun.
Mrdelta
04-02-2008, 10:03 PM
tactically it was the right move. these are not gungho superheros. these are normal people trying to survive.
SKATEateer
04-02-2008, 10:53 PM
yeah
well we probably wont find out whos in the suit until like ten chapters
Black Chocobo
04-03-2008, 12:36 AM
tactically it was the right move. these are not gungho superheros. these are normal people trying to survive.
If you actually think about it, it was tactically a bad move less man-power makes it easier for the aliens to pick off the weaker people narrowing the field until eventually they come to you in full-force and it's just a woman, a marital artist, a kid, a freshman, a some guy who never takes off his shades, a coward, and an old man. Not to mention the fact that there's no time limit and more than likely Gantz'll kill you if you can't or won't get the job done.
But enough of that. I think Oka will be revealed in at least 2 chaps b/c he had a hard time w/ the spider minotaur and the 100ptr looks like he's 10x stonger than that thing. So the 100ptr would probably do something that would make Oka reveal himself.
Mrdelta
04-03-2008, 01:35 AM
the Osaka team did not want to team up, they wanted the mission to them selves. the options were really force yourself on the osakans, ignore them and engage in combat somewhere else, stay back and let the osakans do the dirty work.
To be honest option one is dangerous. they did not know anything about the osakan team and what they had seen screamed psychopaths. option 2 carries the same danger you talked about as option three but now your poking the alien horde with sticks, not to mention your not sure what the Osakans might do. option 3 keeps your team out of the fight. you gain intel on this new team. you keep your people out of the direct line of fire. had the 100pointer not started roaming and gotten them involved, and had gantz not forced them into a corner option 3 would have been a fine choice.
tokyo did not know how much of a dick gantz is. Kei knew but he is dead. Nishi knew but he's a dick too. for the rest of the team gantz is still pretty much a mystery.
that said I don't know if Oka is going to be revealed at all. It might just end up as one of those "who was that masked man" situations. meh, only time, and the next chapters, will tell.
SKATEateer
04-03-2008, 02:44 AM
how many chapters do you guys think this manga will reach?
I would say 450at minimum.. at this point
Mrdelta
04-03-2008, 02:52 AM
depends how japan likes it but I would say 300 easy.
SKATEateer
04-03-2008, 03:00 AM
hmmmm why would it be so different from american popularity
im sure in japan theres plenty of manga lovers and lots love this manga
i hope... so we get more haha
Black Chocobo
04-03-2008, 03:16 AM
Actually it all depends on how long the mangaka feels it should go on. Most mangaka like to set their long-term projects around 200 chaps at the least and 500 chaps at the most. Although sometimes publishers may decide to step in to put the kibosh on manga that have lost their luster.
I read somewhere that Oku said he had an idea for the ending but he has no idea how to get there and he still wants to try out some new ideas and arcs.
blues
04-03-2008, 10:32 AM
"if a change in a mere atom can cause a country to burn, then what kind of burnt impression will this meeting leave..."
what is this, a butterfly effect reference?
does anyone else think how oddly sounding the 'quotable lines' oku puts in his covers? probably the translator's fault but still...
Pansori
04-03-2008, 01:12 PM
OK I admit it. I am Oka the hyper intelligent panda. after this mission me and hoi hoi are going out on a night on the town till we are eventually rounded up and sent back to our respective zoos. after words we will never talk again though she does still send me e-mail from time to time.
I KNEW IT!!! :devil:
...Not saying Reika's this horrible person, just that like the other chars she's flawed and people tend to look over it. While not giving poor Kishimoto the benefit of the doubt.
Choc, I said from the beginning that she's flawed and so did others. In fact I stated that as one of the reasons I like her so much. As for Kishi not getting the benefit of the doubt... I felt sorry for her home situation and that she tried to kill herself. Obviously she was seeking love somewhere, and found it in Katou... it doesn't change the fact that she was an irritating character and that sometimes some of her actions could be perceived as selfish and underhanded.
I do not think its fair to judge Reika's actions this mission. the whole team is still recovering from a huge blow and her especially as she did have a chance at saving him. under the oni alien mission she was scared but she still pushed on, and Kei in the early days did the same. she has potential as a second in command.
No. No excuses. Kei had to learn the hard way how he should and shouldn't behave during missions. So when the current team appeared they had the ultimate example to go by. Now that he's gone is not a good excuse to fall apart and cower in a corner like Inaba during the Oni mission. I applaud Oku for making them act like real people would 90% of the time, but that doesn't neccessarily make them right.
Kato's best friend died right before his eyes but he still had the resolve to get the Vamps to fight for them and he saved a lot of people going into the mission w/ just a capture gun.
Kei was the glue that held the team together, though. He was their leader, and they followed his example. And not only was he more experienced, but he had experiences that the others did not (like being the only person on a mission). Reika not only lost someone she loved, but was also thrown into a position of leadership. All this, and her first mission as leader... as well as their first mission without Kei... is against a 100 pointer?? Don't get me wrong, I was just as irritated as anyone else when we saw that all Tokyo was doing was wandering around, trying to let the time go by. And while Reika and her crew have not made the best or the right decisions, don't you think they deserve (as you said earlier) the benefit of the doubt?
I KNEW IT!!! :devil:
Damn... you Delta? I haven't thought it would be possible.
Choc, I said from the beginning that she's flawed and so did others. In fact I stated that as one of the reasons I like her so much. As for Kishi not getting the benefit of the doubt... I felt sorry for her home situation and that she tried to kill herself. Obviously she was seeking love somewhere, and found it in Katou... it doesn't change the fact that she was an irritating character and that sometimes some of her actions could be perceived as selfish and underhanded.
You talked about the benefit of doubt, but afterwards you didn't refer to it?
The benefit of doubt means, we don't have proof that Kishimoto would've behaved the same as Reika or Tae during their respective relevant events we were discussing about, so we have no proof to speak bad of her. She could've shoot like hell at Ultimate Oni, whereas Reika was just shuttering in fear. This is what it means her past or death circumstances are completely irrelevant (God you're so formal NeX :D)
Anyway, one must not talk pejorative about dead people.
Kei was the glue that held the team together, though. He was their leader, and they followed his example. And not only was he more experienced, but he had experiences that the others did not (like being the only person on a mission). Reika not only lost someone she loved, but was also thrown into a position of leadership. All this, and her first mission as leader... as well as their first mission without Kei... is against a 100 pointer?? Don't get me wrong, I was just as irritated as anyone else when we saw that all Tokyo was doing was wandering around, trying to let the time go by. And while Reika and her crew have not made the best or the right decisions, don't you think they deserve (as you said earlier) the benefit of the doubt?
Here again, but this time better. Anyway weak how they opted to let everything pass by, It was the best choice from their side, but where shall this lead to? They're goners for sure at this rate.
Black Chocobo
04-03-2008, 03:35 PM
"if a change in a mere atom can cause a country to burn, then what kind of burnt impression will this meeting leave..."
what is this, a butterfly effect reference?
does anyone else think how oddly sounding the 'quotable lines' oku puts in his covers? probably the translator's fault but still...
No that refers to the splitting of atoms when an atomic bomb explodes.
Choci, blue..... I'm disappointed.
It's a clear reference "[...]in a mere atom can cause country to burn, [...]
To Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Choc you're right about the bomb, but a simple A-bomb explosion is not what Oku meant. No! He meant clearly those two.
Black Chocobo
04-03-2008, 03:53 PM
I know he meant that but I didn't feel like editing my post, so sue me.
No plz don't I can't afford a lawyer. :(
ok cool...
Anyway I think Gantz ends after 9 targets in phase 2 maybe a bit less. After that all lose strings will have been tied up... but... Gantz Chapter has been delayed and maybe to next week so it took 4 weeks to get a new one.
At this rate... you have to tell your grandchildren to read Gantz and tell you the outcome when they die.
You: Grandson... I speaking to you with the last of my powers, when I'm dead please read Gantz for me and tell me the ending when you join me.
Granddaughter: Hey I already told you like 100 times I'm a girl >.< And I only read Yuri.
Black Chocobo
04-03-2008, 04:17 PM
lmao
"Do you have any last words before we pull the plug?"
"Yes... What... What... happened in the latest chapter of Gantz?"
"Nothing, Oku died before he finished it."
"Noooooo!!!!"
*flatline*
Gantz is going on 8 years now isn't it? Maybe Oku'll just get sick of it one day and just have the world end?
Scorpio-Girl
04-03-2008, 09:58 PM
I've finished reading Gantz. This latest mission has been on-going for like 20+ chapters, if I'm not mistaken. Can't wait for the next one. >.<
I want Kei Kurono to be revived as he is the natural born leader for the Gantz team but I guess Katou can just about fill that role. He is a much better leader than the Reika girl.
Izumi was a great character- not necessarily a good guy but a great asset to the team. His strength and Kei's have definitely impacted on the whole Gantz team capability. I'm hoping the Host Samurai guy can make up for that lacking. He looks to be one of the most potential new members.
I'll just have to wait who'll get the 100 pointer and what they'll do with the points.. I'm guessing Katou may take it since he's one of the few members of the existing experienced Tokyo Gantz team that hasn't past the 100 point mark. Osaka sucked badly.. despite there experience and their cocky attititude.. lol the perverted guy still lives on.
I wonder how the mysterious last member of Osaka team looks like behind the armour.. :/
Black Chocobo
04-03-2008, 11:13 PM
Well Reika's a good leader (she was able to formulate a plan against one of the Oni bosses and against the 100ptr, albeit the former didn't really work until Kei showed and the latter was just a means to escape) but as I've stated before she's not always 100% reliable on missions.
And I wouldn't say that the Osakans suck b/c Nishi isn't a slouch when it comes to kicking alien *** yet he was taken out of commission in the blink of an eye. Remember Kato, Izumi, and Kei were probably the biggest badasses to be transferred into the room. Kato having taken out a super-intelligent 1000 Arms w/ a broken suit, one arm sliced off, and a sword; Izumi being a Japanese Micheal Jordan; and Kei... well I don't feel the need to explain this one. So it only makes sense that Kato looked like God compared to the Osakans who were extremely cocky and not too bright.
SKATEateer
04-03-2008, 11:24 PM
katou would make a good leader but still I love kei as the leader
he had more charisma than katou
i cant say he has more cause he is dead.. hahah
but he did have more when he was alive
and plus he was just a badasss motha****ka
Mrdelta
04-03-2008, 11:49 PM
I just cant shake the feeling that in the end the aliens will win.
SKATEateer
04-03-2008, 11:50 PM
i think its gonna be an ending thats good
but bizarre
not a sad ending though
thats my strange gut feeling
Scorpio-Girl
04-03-2008, 11:53 PM
I just cant shake the feeling that in the end the aliens will win.
It could go that way actually since there seems to a never ending cycle of new aliens that are getting stronger and smarter with the missions. They should vary it a bit so that there are some quick and easy ones perhaps. :/
I think that in the future (depending on how long Gantz will last for) there may be some good aliens that join Gantz. A potential route... but I'm not sure.. It still has a matrix style feel to it. It makes the end of the world scenario nearer now that the aliens and the team have become visible.
SKATEateer
04-04-2008, 12:01 AM
well the vampires are gonna be a good help
if they do help
haha
Mrdelta
04-04-2008, 12:12 AM
well the vampires are gonna be a good help
if they do help
haha
slaughtering your own teammates mercilessly is probably not the kind of help everyone wants from the vamps. :devil:
Scorpio-Girl
04-04-2008, 12:15 AM
i think its gonna be an ending thats good
but bizarre
not a sad ending though
thats my strange gut feeling
The feeling you get through this manga is that of the desperate need of survival and despair. There is always a glimmer of hope too (revival etc) but you know that not even the hero lives. (Eg. Kei)
In that sense the happy ending is not guaranteed if anything- if there is a 'happy ending' it will be where there is a desperate fight where there is a couple of survivors, not necessarily the best team members and in that ending the survivors don't compare to the losses/deaths. It'll be epic, imo..
Seriously Host Samurai is the one you should be looking out for. I'll cry if he ends up dying without showing his potential. >.<
I think the vamps have realised they'll have to co-operate with the team to be free so that they can continue to hunt for them.. kinda ironic.
Crimsonknights
04-04-2008, 01:20 AM
Y are u ppl talking about an ending ...I hope it doesnt end whit this mission. I hope they bring back sei (lara croft) that girl had sum big tits lol.
the host samurai is probably the most most badass caracters right now, lets not forget oka ...for sum reason I liked the part where he was trying to explain the situation to one of the bosses, and just got rejected
SKATEateer
04-04-2008, 01:28 AM
hahaha
yeah good 'ol irony
well i dont mean flowers and everyone living happy ending
but i mean like aliens not winning atleast haha
blues
04-04-2008, 10:36 AM
the ending could appear to be a bleak one... and then it twists into a good one.
that would definitely be a shocker.
who do you think will experience the ending. Tokyo might wipe in the next mission after all... they didn't rack up too much points... so how are they planning on competing with the aliens.
Scorpio-Girl
04-04-2008, 06:12 PM
It didn't say they needed at least _pts to survive (like it did with Kei) so they'll continue on even with a lack of points- they just need to survive.
As for the aliens, they just need to terminate the master boss. The others are small fry as that Takeshi boy has shown. The two semi leaders are already down. It's up to the Oki guy and Kato and the rest of the team to actually do some damage. Again I'm hoping the Host Samurai comes into it. >.<
I doubt the bimbos from the Osaka team will do much but die (fingers crossed). The young mom might survive.. I think they'll join up to form a stronger team.. maybe.
Because the time restrictions don't apply anymore the missions are naturally longer and it doesn't help that this one is really difficult. I think there will be a couple of survivors and maybe one or two may have reached the 100 pt mark after this mission.
mmh Idon't think so...
They didn't kill many aliens so they keep weak and can't upgrade their equipment, it's obvious with hiding every mission.. it's lame and it kills you in the end, so they have to speed up.
Scorpio-Girl
04-04-2008, 07:03 PM
Yeah.. I understand what you're saying.
Generally the Tokyo team are a lot more sentimental and would rather prefer to revive someone or return to life.. Maybe the more assertive members like how Izumi and Nishi was would put the whole 'war' and upgrade motion across. From the current members it only seems like the vamps could go in this direction.. then again they would want to return to being an ordinary vamp.. T.T
I think that there could be some sort of epiphany that they get from this mission that might change some of their thinking including the cowards. The Tokyo team needs more assertive/aggressive characters- maybe it'll happen with the current members as well as the imminent newbs.
imminent noobs? which one? Tokyo had 3... they all wandered off and exploded...
mmh maybe some new one, but to survive in this missions of Pahse 2 they have to get cool guys like Sniper.
Black Chocobo
04-06-2008, 01:59 AM
I think a lot of the main cast may stick around until the end or at least near it, b/c Gantz is getting to the point where you just can't kill off important characters just for the hell of it or for a change in pace. I know we all applaud the realism of it and how death can happen at anytime but the fact is it's still a story and you can't keep switching out heroes and protagongists just b/c you want to. Then there would be no point of the story up until that point.
Mrdelta
04-06-2008, 04:40 AM
we'll have to see. It would go against their characters to stay pointlessly, so if that is true Oku will have to create a good reason for the group as a whole, or a lot of personal ones.
Delta... Oku is creating good personal reasons like people who love them, I knew Sakurai would liveon, becuz of Tonkotsu (to-n-ko-tsu) and Sakata would die becuz of having noone, Katou lives one, Kaze and Takeshi too.... that says it, chances of them dying are low.
Damn... I hate it the chapter is really delayed by 2 weeks, I was reading KHR but it sucks against Gantz, I'm needing my new shot...
Jarome
04-06-2008, 06:19 PM
The next chapter is comin' April's 10th... Oku's been workin' on the second manga he's drawing for...
Just focus on Gantz... ROAR!
I might post the translated parts of the Gantz Manual, looks very interresting.
methaniel
04-06-2008, 07:04 PM
I have the Gantz manual ince a year at least...If there is something needed from here, I can translate it too...Well, I didn't learna lot of things, except the stats...but I had to have it in my collection
the second one? that's new HEN is finished if I recall it right and the other one with the huge elaborate name also, though I'm only sure for HEN.
HEN is awesome Gantz too, but Gantz delayal, is rly shiit. it's the only good manga, which has a thread here on OM (see profile for more details)
It wouldn't be this bad, if it wasn't for that ultimate fight between the strongest of their factions. I want to know how it ends.
€ damn...being beaten here is a rare event, which manual do you guys mean, btw. ?
offtopic.
damn... why is the cigarette I'm smoking burning down? I read KHR and there... Gokudera's cigarettes don't burn down at all...
Mrdelta
04-06-2008, 10:53 PM
I'm not all saying they all are going to die but they will eventually get 100 points, at that point they will choose to leave unless oku gives them a reason to stay.
The same thing happened with Kei. he neared 100 points and a reason was made up for him to stay, the fact that he ended up leaving and subsequently dieing is besides the point. The reason for him to keep fighting existed and he was faced with a dilemma.
as the old song goes, "should I stay or should I go now? If I go there will be trouble, An if I stay their will be double."
yes I am that bored.
off-topic: yesterday I went to the zoo but I coudn't get a shot of a panda for my avatar, hope you enjoy this cliff springer instead.
Raiden
04-07-2008, 04:40 PM
ahh all Gantz fans you must united! vote for Kei in the OMCB here: http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?p=422856#post422856 he needs our back up, at least oen Gantz char must make it through!
Cross Marian
04-07-2008, 04:48 PM
voted for kei :D
Black Chocobo
04-07-2008, 05:45 PM
Voted for Kei as well. He kicks ***, screws women, and reads tons of porn. My kinda hero. :thumbup:
Captaingod
04-07-2008, 05:57 PM
Of course I vote Kei :D
ghassassin
04-07-2008, 06:54 PM
*cough*
レイカ達は混乱気味でぬらりからも岡からも逃げる。
逃げた先で加藤達と合流。川沿いに西、鈴木、稲葉が並べられる
対峙する岡とぬらり。
「全員出血がひどすぎる。岡が早く決めてくれれば」
加藤が期待するがレイカがあの星人は強すぎると、杏は岡やったらと
ぬらりに一歩ずつ歩み寄る岡。
見えない攻撃の連発で辺りの壁が崩れたり橋が壊れたり
加藤達の方にも破片が飛び散る
一人、目を見開いて戦いに見入る童貞
じりじりと歩み寄り、ぬらりとの間合いをつめた岡が構える
「スキがあったらどっからでも、かかってこんかい!!」
雄叫びをあげぬらりの総攻撃。
が、懐に入った岡の右フックがぬらりの左膝を破壊。
崩れ落ちるぬらりの顎を岡の左アッパーが砕いた
「こう見えても俺は学生時代ピンポンやっとったんや!!」
顎を砕かれながらもぬらりの尻尾が岡を襲う
が、左手で振り落とし右手外側の刄でぬらりの首を切断
横たわるぬらりの遺体に囁く岡。
「空手やっとるんや、通信教育やけどな」
加藤「倒した、、、のか」
Reika and the others are confused and run away from Oka and Nuri.
Soon, they meet with Katou and his companions.
They lay Nishi, Old Man Suzuki and Inaba in line near the river.
Katou mentions something: "They are bleeding too much, it'd be best if we help Oka finish this quickly..."
But Reika says the alien is too strong and Anzu says that Oka'll suceed.
Oka gets closer to Nura.
Nuri's invisibles attacks cause some damage to the bridge, and the fragments fall near Katou and the rest of the team.
The nerd beholds the battle with his eyes wide open.
Coming around slowly, Oka prepares to face the Nurarihyon.
Oka exclaims: "Attack me as many times as you want and wherever you want, come on!"
Nuri roars and attacks Oka, but Oka counters it destroying the monster's left knee with his super knucles (using his right arm).
Nuri falls and Oka destroys its jaw (using his left arm).
Oka: You might not believe me, but I used to play ping-pong when I was a student"
While his jaw shatters, Nuri's tentacles (maybe his tail, I'm not sure) attacks Oka, but the man evades it and using his elbow blades, at last beheads the 100 pointer.
Oka murmurs something next to the monster's corpse: "I've also studied some Karate through correspondence"(TN: I believe there's an expression more fitting but I couldn't remember what it was, anyway I think most of you will get the picture)
Katou: "He... won?"
ghassassin
04-07-2008, 07:26 PM
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff116/ghassassin/2lxc846.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff116/ghassassin/1sou219365oj5.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff116/ghassassin/68m211244oz2.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff116/ghassassin/2hp54zt.jpg
Don't get impatient. Read the last page, last post as well; if you can't even wait for 15 days.
Black Chocobo
04-07-2008, 07:32 PM
UURGH?! Wierd dialogue in this chap, but it looks like we get some good action. :D
Mrdelta
04-07-2008, 07:33 PM
I love you ghassassin have my man babys.
Crimsonknights
04-07-2008, 09:35 PM
Thx a lot ghassassin ....u made my day. I read the whole thing until 269 in a week ....cant wait any longer
Alberio
04-07-2008, 10:35 PM
LOL One day we have to thank Cali for putting up those pics on stoptazmo.
Judging from the dialogue...(Shani recently put the translation up, its at Cali's thread, as usual, and no I'm not putting them up, besides they're on the last page)
Notes: According to Shani Andras, Oka Hachirou's comments are taken from a real Oka Hachirou, which is an Osakan comedian.
Regarding the notes, I knew Oku would do that!!! xD At ST they were discussing about where the name Oka came from, and there it is!
Anyway back to the dialogue, there are going to be a lot of people just as pleased as I am about Oka's age, though too bad for the little girl hopes. :( And mine for Hiro Nakamura from Heroes, his name is Oka Masi though. >_>
BTW titling it Bleach 318. Nice one.
Playmore
04-07-2008, 11:05 PM
mmm... thx Ghas for the glimpse.
yeah thx and stuff...
anyway if this spoilers are 100% true (regarding it was monday). This is too weird, he had some sort of semi-difficult fight against the onimushi(Spider-Minotaur) and then the strongest alien... ages beyond onimushi comes and loses this badly, without even giving trouble? (you can hit me wherever you want!--- Oka; Nuri: *ultimate attack* Oka *kills nuri*)
sry.. but that didn't make me believe.
Sorain_Hyuuga
04-08-2008, 03:07 PM
i am getting alittle ticked with this year long battle gantz is having, how many chapters has it been so far? i mean really this series has been going downhill since the death of the main char. i cant wait till this fight is over and the story progresses alittle more-thanks for the spoiler anyway though.
Black Chocobo
04-08-2008, 03:20 PM
Why is everyone complaining. The oni alien battle was like 20 chapters. And every mission before that was 11 chapters at the least. On top of that there was more to this mission than the ones before it. The team is visible to civilians, no time limit, it's all the way across the country, different weapons, new players, people who have cleared 100 pts multiple times, etc.
So it's gonna take a lotta time to explain even a little bit of that and make it worth your while to even care about what's going on.
Walter o'Dim
04-08-2008, 04:36 PM
...Well, Kei not coming back soon is Oka won...unless that Oka is Kei theory is somehow true.
still the spoilers are dated on monday, yesterday.
Don't give your whole belief in it, chances are high you get disappointed, I still favor some plot twist like Host V stealing the 100 pointers kill, or Pansori being transferred into the game :D
Mrdelta
04-08-2008, 07:04 PM
still the spoilers are dated on monday, yesterday.
Don't give your whole belief in it, chances are high you get disappointed, I still favor some plot twist like Host V stealing the 100 pointers kill, or Pansori being transferred into the game :D
0.0 you want pansori to steal my kill? come on once I get 800 gantz promised me my own flying destroyer. 7 count them 7 howitzer cannons fireing the gravity rounds, 3 vulcan cannons firing explosive rounds at 10,000 rounds a minute, 4 net guns able to hold down godzilla himself, AND a huge bar with several comfy couches and a glass floor to watch the carnage.
I want my comfy couches!!!!!!!!!
yeah I want this round to end so we can see the aftermath.
says the psychotic with the emu ava (emu?) ^^ :D
Damn I forgot you're Oka the panda >.<
Why did Gantz promise this too you? He promised my a lowrider with hydraulics and nitro boost, when I reach 1000 points plus I can go into another manga.^^
If pansori comes in, let's shoot her together^^ devil smiley
There is no aftermath.... I don't believe in aftermaths... though I believe in plot advancement, hopefullyOku does think the same.
Mrdelta
04-09-2008, 06:11 AM
says the psychotic with the emu ava (emu?) ^^ :D
Damn I forgot you're Oka the panda >.<
Why did Gantz promise this too you? He promised my a lowrider with hydraulics and nitro boost, when I reach 1000 points plus I can go into another manga.^^
If pansori comes in, let's shoot her together^^ devil smiley
There is no aftermath.... I don't believe in aftermaths... though I believe in plot advancement, hopefullyOku does think the same.
you can stop believing in gravity too, your still gonna fall down. events have happened that has shaken these characters. I am interested in how they respond.
so I got a sneak peek at what Oka's going to look like. http://www.motherjones.com/blue_marble_blog/panda01.jpg
what do you think.
and Nex: does the lowrider at least have flamethrowers?
oh, its not an emu, its a cliff springer. cute little guys.
funniecow
04-09-2008, 08:35 AM
I think the area is getting smaller to FORCE the Tokyo team to battle the 100pointer. The thing is won't Oka know about the Tokyo team and welcome them? Since he already did battle with another 100Pointer he probably knows the danger and how difficult it is.
I honestly think that in the end it would be a "planet of the apes moment". The Gantz team will find out that they aliens were peaceful the entire time and that there were previous teams of Gantz that hunted down vamps/aliens for fun or to remove competition. So it'd be a "we were the monsters all along!!!".
I think as for females chars go, Tea was used to add a little "reality" back into the mix, because let's face it if Tea wasn't there they wouldn't really interact with regular human life at all. Also the BJ scene is trying to show how close her and Kei had become, think about it that's her first boyfriend, BJs are like the holy grail of things to do. The BJ could have been added just to take the readers away from the tense atmosphere.
AS FOR THIS IMPORTANT ISSUEI know, and speaking as an Asian female, most of us just do not come in that size. :(
THE BIG BREASTED ASIAN IS LIKE A MYTHICAL BEAST, IT IS RARELY SIGHT SIGHTED, AND ONCE SIGHTED YOU MUST GANDER UPON IT'S BEAUTY KNOWING THAT YOU MIGHT NEVER SEE ONE AGAIN. "SHH SHH, DON'T GET TOO CLOSE YOU'LL SCARE IT"
BTW are you saying you're flat 2?
blues
04-09-2008, 11:57 AM
what if oka was secretly barney the purple dinosaur?
just throwing my two cents in.
Delta... I'm just fooling around with the keyboard of course there's an aftermath.
No my lowrider has liquid oxygen throwers....
Cliff springer: I know Puma's
It's definitely Oka, no mistake possible
funniecow....for that important matter... it's true what you say, still a bit bad formulated... Asian girls, look hawt when they dress up as Gothic Lolitas :D Cup size can be neglected here.
funniecow
04-09-2008, 07:53 PM
Delta... I'm just fooling around with the keyboard of course there's an aftermath.
No my lowrider has liquid oxygen throwers....
Cliff springer: I know Puma's
It's definitely Oka, no mistake possible
funniecow....for that important matter... it's true what you say, still a bit bad formulated... Asian girls, look hawt when they dress up as Gothic Lolitas :D Cup size can be neglected here.
To be honest with you for some reason in Hawaii a lot of the asians are beyond a B cup. I guess it's the ocean. I know that Japan developed a gum that was suppose to increase your bust size, WIRED science please.
Locke
04-10-2008, 07:58 PM
Finally caught up, the other team sucked, but the guy who shagged the woman giant is apparently a lot like me ._. I wish Gantz wasn't getting so silly >_<
OHH LOOK, A MECHA!
Gantz isn't silly and the perv is more like me^^
the mech is one of the biggest mysteries in Gantz, hopefully it will be filled with light next chapter.
Locke
04-10-2008, 08:08 PM
Well all the over powered enemies who never seem to die, DBZ Syndrome or MCS o.O & is it ever gonna be updated again?
the enemies die on a regular basis, did you even read the manga? they killed thousands of aliens from Chapter 1 till now.
Locke
04-10-2008, 08:14 PM
I'm talking about the newest arc, I see no relevance in mentioning older arcs, because the only good older arc was the Onion one, that said there were some good moments. (8th grader showing how pathetic he really is & the shortys justice)
well even in this arc every alien died save Nuri, and that's the time for Oka to show up, we stopped here, but if the Scanlators keep speeding we know how it goes on by tomorrow.
Locke
04-10-2008, 09:14 PM
way to many enemies now.
blues
04-11-2008, 06:56 AM
apparently, you can never have too many in gantz.
Locke
04-11-2008, 06:59 AM
That's why the first game was my favourite, just one enemy who could put up a fight & a boatload of emotion.
Mrdelta
04-11-2008, 07:27 AM
I will agree the first mission was the best. all the confusion, and conflicting emotion. thats why I prefer the time between missions to the actual missions, and this latest mission is not the greatest, but the feeling you got reading the first mission for the first time, you can not get that back in this series. Even if Oku wipes the whole team and starts anew, YOU still know. they are confused but you are not. that said its not bad and if you ignore the violence their is something here to enjoy in the characters. Anyway I don't think the next mission is going to be this packed with aliens, at least I hope not.
lately I have been daydreaming about gantz. mostly wondering how I would react if one day, while walking home, I ran into a friend and we both stop to talk. wrong place, wrong time, we get gunned down by some GD drivebying a rival. (yes I did just write that sentence, no I'm not sure where GD turf is in my area. yes I am white, No I'm not a yuppy. and no I do not live in a suburb. so you can stop laughing at me now. please.) wake up and me and my buddy are in everyone favorite apartment with a group of other confused people and the required black ball and a wonderful view of the Chicago skyline. think about it how would you react. I like to think I would remain calm but realistically my first words would probably be something like "you gotta be [expletive deleted] me..."
Pansori
04-11-2008, 03:20 PM
I don't know, I really liked the Dino mission and the Buddha mission. The first one is probably one of my least favorites. And I'm loving the current mission.
Pandaman
04-11-2008, 07:16 PM
TT_TT When will Gantz 270 be scanned? I've been waiting for it patiently damnit! xD
it's scanned... as I said Nuri's not dead, there is something neat waiting for Oka next time. :D
Locke
04-11-2008, 08:55 PM
Good chapter I guess, but after all that waiting it makes it seem more of a disappointment
Firzen
04-11-2008, 08:57 PM
it'll be horrible if oka's identity is not revealed at all
Locke
04-11-2008, 08:59 PM
I though he was the one who got killed when trying to take out the 100 pointer doing his sexy dance. Who the hell was that?
Firzen
04-11-2008, 09:00 PM
i gota start doing ping pong and online karate clases.
jakerose20
04-11-2008, 09:01 PM
oka "mankind strongest warrior" is just me me ore does this guy talk like an nerd/otaku ;)
Locke
04-11-2008, 09:03 PM
i gota start doing ping pong and online karate clases.
Lmao! Joke of the day xD.
I think I will join ya :)
endless_shaft
04-11-2008, 09:05 PM
I though he was the one who got killed when trying to take out the 100 pointer doing his sexy dance. Who the hell was that?
if you mean the guy who had sex with it, that was Kuwabara, and he dint realy die.
Locke
04-11-2008, 09:08 PM
No not him, I mean the guy who got killed with the laser eyes.
Black Chocobo
04-11-2008, 09:11 PM
You're talking about that crazy heroine addict? No that guy's name was Kyou.
Locke
04-11-2008, 09:16 PM
Ohh I thought they said something about him winning 7 times & being their best hope
electrosphere
04-11-2008, 10:08 PM
hi everyone, I'm a newbie here, yoroshiku!
I think Nurari is gonna transform again. Perhaps eventually Oka will be able to kill it with Kato's help, and use the 100 points to revive Kei as a result.
The mission has last too long. I hope the vampire will join the fight against Nurari.
I was disappointed of Oka, he kept doing unshowy punches and spiced it with bad word games... really waiting particularly 4 weeks for this chapter, wasn't worth it.
SilentBuddhist
04-11-2008, 10:23 PM
Man, latest chapter was good. At least it wasn't a major disappointment compared to last chapter, so that could be affecting my opinion here. Well this mission isn't over yet but if I had to guess it's only got around 3-4 chapters left, so I'm eager for the mission to end. That Nurari alien isn't dead yet, but I'm expecting that it'll be over soon. Well chapter wise, not time wise >_>
Locke
04-11-2008, 10:25 PM
This new monster has become like all the DBZ badguys.
NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU KILL ME I COME BACK UNTILL YOU GET BORED, YOU DO A BIG ATTACK THE END.
methaniel
04-11-2008, 10:42 PM
Personally, all those resurrection of Nuri didn't bored me...I still don't understand his attack but well. This chapter was good, I just realise it was swords on Oka's combinaison. Now I wonder what form Nuri will take, maybe the Tokyo team may shine at a moment? (Katou...). It won't be more than 2-3 chapters, but I wonder if we'll get to see the true identity of Oka before this mission end...
combinaison :lol:
SB last was a disappointment, this one also, in the former Oku messed up the fighting scenes a bit, in this one fighting was unshowy and the words were bad, come on,you can't say (I do Karate) is a bummer phrase and he really only stood there and punched Nuri a bit, till it fell down.
Locke
04-11-2008, 10:49 PM
I think the one thing that keeps my reading Gantz is the rush. It isn't that good a manga (imo) but the fact that people are human & die easy means that you're not excited for the fights (well I'm not) when your fave characters goes to fight because you never know if he/she will die or not. Anyone no matter how main or important could die & at many minute & I don't want characters like Kaze, or his kid or the old man or the vampires to die >_<
Sadly sacrifcing MCS means you get that cheap option on the 100 point menu.
SilentBuddhist
04-11-2008, 11:00 PM
combinaison :lol:
SB last was a disappointment, this one also, in the former Oku messed up the fighting scenes a bit, in this one fighting was unshowy and the words were bad, come on,you can't say (I do Karate) is a bummer phrase and he really only stood there and punched Nuri a bit, till it fell down.
Well you can't really deny this chapter was at least a little better than the last. Sure the words were corny but at least something happened. I think aside from Oka's dialogue this chapter was fairly good, Nuri will be back but I think this will probably be the last transformation. To me it signifies the mission's coming closer to an end.
And I agree Meth, I think the Tokyo team(i.e. Katou) might have one more chance to shine just a little, though Katou probably won't be stealing the spotlight here.
Host V is my #2 candidate for stealing the spotlight (right after Pansori :p)
It was a bit better, but aside from a little punches there wasn't much... Nuri, after all seemed to be even weaker than this Minotaurspider Oka fought before... and Nuri is the strongest of the aliens after all, gladly this isn't the end, yeah^^
methaniel
04-11-2008, 11:09 PM
Ah yeah, I didn't remember of Host vampire, he could help if he want to save the girl. Now, it's no more than one transformation left (if not, it's going to be too much). Maybe I'm thinking of a final blow like when Kei and Izumi did it together...Cause I don't see Katou winning here, nor having 100 points already, but some share could be good (unless the Vampire host get the 100 points in the first mission...)
Scorpio-Girl
04-11-2008, 11:19 PM
Well at least there has been some sort of positive development in defeating the Nurari. This Oka guy is really shining atm. I hope it lasts. I think that Katou may be help Oka too, in the end, but Oka alone is capable of defeating him without any others' help too perhaps.. :/
-Prediction- I feel that maybe the two (Oka and Nuri) will battle each other (I'm predicting another final transformation too btw) and will come to a point that they're both near wasted- cue Katou in hero mode- the end. Pts allocated to Katou- Kei revived! *.*
I guess the other useless Tokyo/Osaka members will just standby and watch the master (Oka) do his work.. Katou needs to show the Tokyo team who's boss, well who should be anyway...
Black Chocobo
04-11-2008, 11:29 PM
Ah, Reika's doing a fine job I mean their actions were questionable but everyone's not supermen like Katou, Kei, and Izumi.
Host Vamp is showing up I'm sure of it. How can he not? He kicks all major forms of *** while still puffing a cig.
Scorpio-Girl
04-11-2008, 11:38 PM
Reika doesn't quite cut it to be the leader. The leaders do not need to be supermen (or women >.<) but it would help if they did stick together and fight when there is a chance of surviving; rather than being cowardly and hoping to survive when there's no chance... They need to eliminate the aliens before they can return-Fact. >.>
I wanted Host Samurai to turn up but I'm not sure how he can sort of 'enter' the battle zone- if that makes sense. He might just about be able to keep hold of the 'bad guy' title and kill the Nuri when it's down. As for the cig puffing-whilst-effortlessly-fighting-look... Just.. *.*
kr4us
04-12-2008, 12:00 AM
Heh for someone who cleared 7 times, I thought Oka would be some punk with an attitude like it's fellow Osaka mates. 'Played ping pong in grade school' and 'learning karate online' it's like trash talk coming from my 8'yr old brother.
Mrdelta
04-12-2008, 06:04 AM
I'm kind of expecting a suit and tie. you know someone who used to play handball but finds gantz more calming.
Darkreaper70
04-12-2008, 06:06 AM
I'm expecting a nerdy guy who lives in total fantasy.
funniecow
04-12-2008, 06:41 AM
Did anyone notice that in this chap, we don't see that much of Hoi Hoi? Or did the panda die?
Mrdelta
04-12-2008, 07:17 AM
Does it really matter? It's useless anyway.
sacrilege!!!!!! Hoi Hoi must live!!!!!!!!
she probably just found herself a nice part to eat.
gladly I don't see what DR posts^^ :lol: It's kinda stupid anyway :D
but Hoi Hoi must live, I'm agreeing to Delta, it's Oku's way of showing comic relief (though tiny one)
I get along with Reika, seriously, this mission is a leap into cold water for them, that they survived 90% is just an incredible feat
Oka surely is a calm person and he's also the most Gantz-loving player at all, I want to see what he looks like.
chezkimo
04-12-2008, 09:43 AM
From the kind of "trash talk" he's using. I'd have to say he's either a child, like 10 years old or just an adult.
I wan't the strongest middle schooler to survive (forgot his name). Don't know why. Just think he's cool! I mean, he was the only one who could weaken the 100 pointer..even though he didn't kill it.
Locke
04-12-2008, 10:00 AM
Lol. Would be funny if he takes off the helmet & it's like an 8 year old girl xD
Lord Jure
04-12-2008, 10:06 AM
Is it just me or Oka is rapidly increasing his popularity? I mean... Ping Pong!
Pansori
04-12-2008, 05:59 PM
Just read the chapter. How disappointing for such a long wait. No spectacular imagery, and what we've learned from Oka is that he played ping pong and he's learning Karate online. Whoopee.
it's cool we share the same opinions, I hoped the suit of Oka would make some badass fighting, but then he just punched here and there and unleashed his most badass phrases >.> It was sooooo disappointing and booring
But Nuri will come back and then, owowo.
Jarome
04-12-2008, 06:26 PM
Why y'all hatin' on the last chapter? Aside the fact that it was pretty short I don't believe it stands out of the quality that Gantz offers.
The picture where Oka crashes the ground is totally amazing, people bein' cut by the shards makes it more than just real.
Oka keeps on sayin' these goofy lines like he's spiderman or something, I like it, at least he isn't some kind of speechless retarded freak...
Nuri couldn't die so easily in only one chapter, I guess in less than two chapters we should see the end of the Osakan arc and the story will follow on. Oku has a lot of content to deliver, many questions to answer, hopefully he'll do it properly as he did in the previous chapters (well things used to be different, the aliens are much stronger, two teams instead of one, no time limit...).
I feel satisfied, all I wanna be sure of is that Oku will deliver a chapter in two weeks as he's supposed to.
Locke
04-12-2008, 06:28 PM
You see it's so hard for Mangakas (sp). To long a wait & no matter what it is it still comes as a disappointment, regular updates leave some of the quality gone from the manga. There's no right time.
Black Chocobo
04-12-2008, 07:07 PM
Well I've always said that when Gantz is at it's worst it's still among the best. This chap wasn't horrible but for Gatnz we expect a little more; there was no "umph" in this chap like the last few. The only part that really impressed me was when Nuri used that crazy Dismemberment Blast to destroy the area and Oka was just strolling through the breeze.
Mrdelta
04-12-2008, 07:20 PM
I wont be happy til oka loses a leg. It's not gantz if the "hero" does not suffer a bit before he wins, but then again maybe thats what Oku is going for.
Darkreaper70
04-12-2008, 07:22 PM
The arc just needs to end...now...
It's already too boring and the story just keeps on repeating...At least end the arc already..
Oka is full of the Gantz drug, he's so hyped up and he has nothing to say, but useless crap, Oku modeled his character really weird, I guess it's impossible for any1 to keep him down, he has no affiliates friends and so on, after all I rly want to see his real life, I want to know if he pumps heroine and waits for Gantz to call him back, or if he has a family (which I doubt seriously)
Locke
04-12-2008, 07:40 PM
I can't remember who said it. But it's true that Gantz is only good when not in the games themselves :p
funniecow
04-12-2008, 09:21 PM
I might be out of line saying this but, isn't it interesting that even thought those two guys had power powered up guns and stuff, but they reverted back to the swords.
So I find it interesting that there isn't' a sword master among the Gantz members. I mean it's the only weapon that never fails, at all. I mean I've seen what a panda, a dog, religious folks, sadists, druggies, how can it be that a sword master didn't die?
Locke
04-12-2008, 09:23 PM
I don't get that there were no swords, Izumi had one, then so did everyone else :|
funniecow
04-12-2008, 09:27 PM
I thought everyone had one, the osaka team 2 guys had it, and both Izumi and Kei had it. So yeah.
Locke
04-12-2008, 09:30 PM
Yeah, but I mean before Izumi came to the room & the dinosaur arc no one had swords. Then after that everyone did.
chezkimo
04-12-2008, 09:32 PM
I thought thyat everybody prefered to use guns. That's all. Probably because with guns it's longer range....kind of. And you just kinda point and shoot, where as with swords you have to actually put effort into it. If you don't take the wepons or suits on your person then when your transported you can't use them coz they're left in that gantz building.
I myself would much prefer an extendible sword. You just extend it and swing it around and there ya go. All dead.
Locke
04-12-2008, 09:34 PM
Swords are always better in manga ?_?
Btw, ya know the X guns, can you point & shoot & then run away & the target will go boom or what?
Black Chocobo
04-12-2008, 09:43 PM
*sigh* Why do people always bring that up? The swords and the bikes were in that room. No one but Izumi and probably Nishi (who was dead for a good amount of time and preferred to have everyone else do the work anyway) knew that that room could be entered after the ball opened up.
Locke
04-12-2008, 09:44 PM
The bike is pretty useless though >_<
funniecow
04-12-2008, 09:45 PM
That's the thing, after Kei opened up the room, I mean come on no one else was able to see how badass Izumi was during the dino battle? I'd start thinking where did he get those swords.
Locke
04-12-2008, 09:46 PM
I was bare sad when Izumi died. I mean for that brief instance he seemed human, why his GF lurched at him though is beyond me.
funniecow
04-12-2008, 10:39 PM
I thought that Izumi would be more smart and constantly wear the suit instead of just the cloak.
Locke
04-12-2008, 10:42 PM
I thought the 'cloak' was that device attached to the suit?
Mrdelta
04-12-2008, 11:03 PM
the cloak is the map/timer/cloak PDA thing I think. it can be used off the suit for the map and timer though.
I would be more interested in where kei found the bike, then they find the swords win win situation. what ever happened to the bike btw?
Locke
04-12-2008, 11:06 PM
Kei found it in that room Izumi opened didn't it? & yeah it had the map but that no longer works.
Mican
04-13-2008, 03:00 AM
so much in one chapter
my brain is having trouble handling the info
difesan23
04-13-2008, 06:05 AM
lol i think is better say, so litlle information of the chapter, my brain is having trouble handling the info, cause is the time and too much things are missed to anwer
Raiden
04-13-2008, 04:19 PM
so I finally read chapter 270. And I must say really not muc hhappened, also the fight was a bit lame^^ but I'm sure the 100pointer has one form left, where Oka must put all effort in to kill it, otherwise I would be really disappointed.
ghassassin
04-13-2008, 04:51 PM
Wow, what a waste? 25 pages of Oka staring at Nyuri, nothing else. Gantz is getting boring now. The author has lost his touch. This chapter was totally useless.
Lainemaa
04-13-2008, 05:51 PM
I was also totally disappointed in the last chapter. The pace is starting to resemble Bleach for god's sake. I need more than nice graphics to enjoy a manga. Not to mention that all the lines Oka had were totally lame.
Raiden, Ghass, Lai, Pansi you are my friends :D SB must've been smoking rocks, he liked the chapter...
It's a major disappointed, what comes next it ws delayed, what a horrible feat, the chapter before has been bad, because Oku tried to put too much action into the 25 pages, and this one... well you know, a little punching, bad jokes and Nuri: way weaker than the Minotaur Spider Oka was fighting before.
Though as bad as this chap was... when Nuri akwakens and unleashes his full power, then the fight Mankind's strongest vs. the strongest of the aliens will get the heat, it's supposed to have...
Lai...seriously tame your tongue, you can say about Gantz what you want, but don't compare it to Bleach ever. And if you do keep your thoughts ;)
If Oka gets Nuri, or if Katou or Host V? we cannot say, this manga is too unpredictable.
So I aint a friend ;-;
Locke seriously this ain't a Chat, ok... pls resort to making useful posts.
Anyway has any1 anidea, if Tokyo might get another casualty, who's it gonna be, the old man... it's kind a running gag he get's blown off his limbs in almost every mission since his introduction. I believe this gag will end here in Osaka, after all he doesn't have his "son" Kurono anymore....
Scorpio-Girl
04-13-2008, 07:38 PM
Anyway has any1 anidea, if Tokyo might get another casualty, who's it gonna be, the old man... it's kind a running gag he get's blown off his limbs in almost every mission since his introduction. I believe this gag will end here in Osaka, after all he doesn't have his "son" Kurono anymore....
If you think of it in a sense of who's left in the Tokyo team that can actually contribute well to the team.. then there's Host Samurai, the vamp girl (they both can fight + Host is there as eye candy! >.<), Katou (leader), Reika (she still has her uses), Muscle Rider and the kid (His strength is a real plus but he's present only with the kid..)
Everyone else is borderline useless.. unless I missed anyone out. :/
No Scorpio I asked who's gonna die till the end of the arc, we don't know, all things can happen, so I said maybe Old Man Suzuki...
And it's true Host V can fight, but the girl is weak and unconscious and minus one arm.
Black Chocobo
04-13-2008, 07:47 PM
Well we can't really say that the girl vamp is weak b/c they kinda just blind-sided her and chopped her arm off while she wasn't paying attention. Not to mention the fact that those aliens were pretty strong.
Scorpio-Girl
04-13-2008, 07:47 PM
For this mission- I'd agree with you about the old man. He'll probably die..
I answered confirming the choices of who should die (and probably will) in this mission which is the old man, the coward.. Nishi shouldn't have died so early on. I thought he was revived for a better reason. He didn't reveal much... >.>
I'm not sure if the Vamp girl will survive or not but she might- just about make it. I agree she does seem to have potential if the Host is anything to go by.
Nishi shouldn't have died so early on. I thought he was revived for a better reason. He didn't reveal much... >.>
Nishi isn't dead he's alive... just as Kuwabara, the perv, well Katou saved him.
He's gonna play some role later and be useful, Kei knew this and requested his survival over Kishi's or Lara Croft's
Black Chocobo
04-13-2008, 07:53 PM
We do know she able to fend off Kei for while when he went berserker mode. Host Vamp would've probably eventually died if he didn't distract Kei w/ his bro's head.
Scorpio-Girl
04-13-2008, 07:59 PM
Nishi isn't dead he's alive... just as Kuwabara, the perv, well Katou saved him.
He's gonna play some role later and be useful, Kei knew this and requested his survival over Kishi's or Lara Croft's
Thanks for confirming that- I assumed he died.. Yeah, I thought he had to play some vital role too. He reminds me of Oka- probably just because they're both experienced and knowledgeable from the rest.. :/
Walter o'Dim
04-14-2008, 06:43 PM
...here's waiting a freakin month to find what happens with Oku and thhe alien.
blues
04-15-2008, 10:46 AM
did oka just speak in the latest chapter? if so, then he is seriously teh lulz.
"I play Ping Pong!"
best line in gantz. ever.
WhackoAznjo3
04-15-2008, 11:27 AM
"I'll give you my onions" is the best line xD
Pitou
04-15-2008, 12:11 PM
"Just so you know, im studying karate..... through an online class, that is"
"Despite this look, in grade school, I PLAYED PING PONG!!"
Oka is a freakin champion. With a cool dry wit like that, he could be an action hero :D
Pansori
04-15-2008, 07:39 PM
There use to be a regular poster on here named NickMogo who always swore the 7xer was either a little girl or a nerd. Looks like he may have been right on the latter. :p
methaniel
04-15-2008, 07:45 PM
Nickmogo, I remember seeing this person before here...
A little girl? Well, it's still possible (and that would be actually good), but is Oka a name for a girl?...And it looks like Oka made more boyish sports (though it's possible for a girl to do it...). But a nerd looks realy possible. Man, I'm really beginning to think that there is chance that we won't see Oka's face in this rc (and if it's not, I wonder when we'll see it, since the next mission probably won't be with this mix of team...I still think it's going to be more on a planet level next time...)
Pansori
04-15-2008, 07:48 PM
Yeah, Nick used to post heavy in the FMA and Gantz threads. He was one of my fave posters, but we read the same mangas. Anyway, we better see Oka this arc! I think we're LONG overdue to seeing his face. We should have seen it last chapter. It would have made that whole crappy dialogue not so crappy.
SilentBuddhist
04-15-2008, 07:52 PM
did oka just speak in the latest chapter? if so, then he is seriously teh lulz.
"I play Ping Pong!"
best line in gantz. ever.
"Just so you know, im studying karate..... through an online class, that is"
"Despite this look, in grade school, I PLAYED PING PONG!!"
Oka is a freakin champion. With a cool dry wit like that, he could be an action hero :D
LOL, apparently people liked those lines xD Well I didn't mind Oka TOO much, but then again I can be tolerant. Though, what does Ping Ping have to do with the alien, that's what I was questioning >.<
There use to be a regular poster on here named NickMogo who always swore the 7xer was either a little girl or a nerd. Looks like he may have been right on the latter. :p
Yep. Which reminds me, I wonder where Nickmogo ran off to...
Oh, and I'm kinda surprised that other guy (can't remember his name, that cowardly guy) survived. I thought he was dead a couple chapters ago, but then again all he lost was his arms (and maybe his legs, can't remember). Still, it was one of those mildly surprising moments.
meh.. Pansi congrats to your promotion:D
I saw NickMogo ataround Gantz 5 as well as Spades, both are gone.
and if Oka is a girl, it's a manga we have bubbles no sound ;)
meh I want to predict Gantz just as I can predict KHR but it's not possible, we might see Oka's face if Nuri punches the suit away, other than that he's too nerdy to show himself of free will, he might get transfered and quickly run out the room.
methaniel
04-15-2008, 07:55 PM
Ah yeah...Inaba or something like this I think...I thought too he would be dead, but for some reason, I prefer him alive, it's good to have a real useless in a group.
And what happened finally to master psychic? I don't think we saw him since the Tokyo team fled from Nuri. He stayed back for letting time to the others, but I don't remember anything since then...and since Nuri is here now, I guess he really is dead?...And he won't be resurected?...It's been some time since we knew that he as going to die (since he said his organs were all dead by the use of his powers), but we didn't even see what happened?...
Black Chocobo
04-15-2008, 07:57 PM
LOFL No one ever remembers his name. He's one of my favorite Gantzers. Inaba. His name is Inaba.
Sakata is dead meth, Nishi is still alive, Host V ran off V girl is unconscious.
10 days then we'll see the last and ultimate of Nuri, what his current form had shown against Oka was pathetic, as was the chapter...
Inaba's your fav Choc? Well.. he's a coward....
SilentBuddhist
04-15-2008, 08:02 PM
Ah yeah...Inaba or something like this I think...I thought too he would be dead, but for some reason, I prefer him alive, it's good to have a real useless in a group.
And what happened finally to master psychic? I don't think we saw him since the Tokyo team fled from Nuri. He stayed back for letting time to the others, but I don't remember anything since then...and since Nuri is here now, I guess he really is dead?...And he won't be resurected?...It's been some time since we knew that he as going to die (since he said his organs were all dead by the use of his powers), but we didn't even see what happened?...
Yeah, Sakata is dead. And he was one of my favorite characters too! :( I think all that's left to like is Muscle Rider and Katou (who despite his pacifist sort of attitude remaining is still kinda badass), and of course Kei and Nishi. As for him staying dead, I don't know...he might come back later if Sakurai decides to revive him, but then again who knows. Sakata was killing himself with his psychic powers, to the point his organs were like an old man's, and he even saw how he was bleeding from his eyes and nose...he might kill himself again if he did revive. Maybe.
Anyways, new thread. :D
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