Claymore

[Manga-Otaku]

In a medieval world, villages are being attacked by the youma, demons that can take the appearance of their victim. The only people who can stop them are the Claymore, a group of young women named for the swords they use. They are half-human, half-demons who, mostly unwillingly, became Claymore. A very good series. Any thoughts?

[buttercup28101]

when is the new chapter coming out.

[Manga-Otaku]

It's gone monthly now....It should come out soon though. I just love the series....Very good. I especially like Roy. That girl who is 3rd or 5th teamed either with her sister or friend. I can't remember...

[wilkz]

I haven't actualy read the series but I have watched the anime, and I love it by far, its kick @$$!

[almpagen]

Shônen Jump #31 (2 July) >> Extra 1
Shônen Jump #36-37 (6 August) >> Extra 2
Shônen Jump #41 (3 September) >> Extra 3
Shônen Jump #45 (1 October) >> Extra 4
Jump Sq #1 (2 November) >> Chapter 74

I read it on the forum
http://forum.digitalpanic.net/index.php?showtopic=9282&st=3 00
I think its right, it makes sence to, sucks that the next Chapter is in November,

[DisturbedMind]

so on 8/4/07 a new claymore should come out.....thank god only 2 days away....I was about ready to kick someone in the throat if I didn't get some claymore soon.

[SKATEateer]

sooo basically its just a fighting story? or is there more involved

[AmitG1984]

Ohh claymore is .... well if you like Berserk then CLaymore is a soft/love/kickass version .
Claymore = where men are inferior but yet willing to be
claymore = the hairdressers marvel as there are sooooo many hair style.
Claymore = where armor and shields don't protect the body
Clamore = Illegal love relation (Raki and Clare, that damn ****ing kiss)XD
Well claymore is full of win, go read/ watch it.

[DisturbedMind]

actually...weren't men just more likely to turn demon, then it was that they were inferior. I think that they even said that the men were just as strong, if not stronger, but they were nearly impossible to keep from going over their limits....so they were useless to those controlling the claymores.

[buttercup28101]

why are there are all these extras thingys anyway

[DisturbedMind]

what extra thingys

[DevyOrHaL]

the extra things are chapters so far that pertain to teresa before she met clare, but who knows exactly. i like them so far but just wish they'd put the main chapters with more priority cause the anime is catching up so fast now

[DisturbedMind]

I didn't realize that was what the question was...but aren't they only having 26 episodes in the anime...so how are they gonna pull this off.

[DevyOrHaL]

idk, i've seen sites say theres only going to be 26 episodes, but i've seen others say there will be more, the anime has just about followed the manga page for page and they do have enough to finish up a first season and some left over for a second, but it prob would happen for a while, who knows

[DisturbedMind]

I think that they'll wrap up the anime at about the same time as the manga. That's the only reason I can see that they would move it to monthly.

[DevyOrHaL]

ya or right before where the manga is and leave it on a cliffhanger like around the mid 60's

[ChiKawa]

that would suck..and i hate that the chapters are coming out so slowly....i read 1-73 all in one shot in about 2 weeks...and that was like a month ago...wish 74 it'd come out...granted i kno its gonna be a while...im runnin out of anime/manga to watch/read...still havent watched claymore yet only read it...

[DisturbedMind]

At least the new "special" chapter is out....could've been better, but probably setting up something to be exposed soon.

[hollywoodlou]

why are there are all these extras thingys anyway

They are "filler" stories before the official launch of JUMP SQUARE monthly on November 2...the long awaited "Chapter 74" story which begins right after the end of Chapter 73 in June of this year.

There are 3 "extra scenes" and the the last extra scene as described by another poster with dates is quite correct.

The extra scenes are just to wet the noses of a lot of Claymore fans who have been transformed manga readers since the anime came out.

[asanta]

well...Claymore is like a drug...cant get enough of it o.O

and that kiss..........wtf?

any thoughts???

[AmitG1984]

@Asanta:Well hell of a kiss when i didn't expect it,i can't wait to see clare and raki reunite after 7 years and some months, raki must definetly be taller and stronger.His the man and his gonna show to clare how manly he is.I am imagine some hugging and rubbing by the fire at night.XD
thats would be hell good!Also nice avatar!Whats it?

[hollywoodlou]

Well, the kiss in the anime wasn't that bad. If you see the manga drawing, it's pretty much ecchii.
Raki couldn't do squat to protect Clare anyways. Even if his training produced the best HUMAN swordsman on earth, his skills wouldn't even match the weakest # 47 Claymore.

[1597534862]

when i first started claymore i was like OMFG this is so !@#$ing boring and than it keep getting better and better

[hollywoodlou]

when i first started claymore i was like OMFG this is so !@#$ing boring and than it keep getting better and better

If you don't want to be spoiled, read the manga BUT I don't recommend it. By far, the manga is superior in delivering the story. The story will definitely get better by 50% with this arc.

Off topic, I'm originally from Vancouver and moved to Hollywood recently.

[Rawr]

Manga is WAY better than the anime when they tell the actual story..but I guess people like the action sequences in the anime =\

[hollywoodlou]

Manga is WAY better than the anime when they tell the actual story..but I guess people like the action sequences in the anime =\

The reason why people like the anime action is the visual motion of it...and laziness. Some people just don't want to read.

The sole objective of Norihiro Yagi i to DRAW the non manga readers to the series. I REALLY really doubt there will be a season 2 soon, because at the pace of the anime faithfully following the manga...it will end at chapter 73.

[ChiKawa]

... havent watched the anime yet...dont realy want to,anyone think it'd be worth it??

*and sidenote*
my local bookstore just came out with the most recent volume..or the second to las..didnt look at it long enough to are(cause it didnt have 74 in it...even though i knew it wouldnt be there i couldnt resist...)is that baddddd???lol

[asanta]

Also nice avatar!Whats it?

well first of all. the avatar is Kon from Bleach :lol:(this smiley is cool)
and the signature one is from One Piece




anyway..... about Raki and the Clare.................
Do you reckon their relationship is romantic? or just "sisterly" love??

and it wasnt Ecchi. when Clare said hold on tight when they're escaping from Ophelia was funny tho. *wink wink* *nudge nudge* *blush blush*

cant wait till next lot of chapters..... i bet Raki's gonna be makin an appearance!

[hollywoodlou]

well first of all. the avatar is Kon from Bleach :lol:(this smiley is cool)
and the signature one is from One Piece




anyway..... about Raki and the Clare.................
Do you reckon their relationship is romantic? or just "sisterly" love??

and it wasnt Ecchi. when Clare said hold on tight when they're escaping from Ophelia was funny tho. *wink wink* *nudge nudge* *blush blush*

cant wait till next lot of chapters..... i bet Raki's gonna be makin an appearance!

Asanta, that is NOT " a brother-sister relationship". If you have a younger sister (or brother), would you KISS THEM LIKE THAT?!

Unfortunately...yes, Raki should be making an appearance in the next chapters. You could bet the stock market on that.

[asanta]

lol alright...you make a point.

And Raki is gonna look so awesome. 7 years. his sword skills should be kick ***.
If not. i shall be severely dissapointed

[mizu-genkaku]

when's the next chappie coming out? sankyuuu~!

[buttercup28101]

the next chapter comes out in November.

[[NOONE]]

well...Claymore is like a drug...cant get enough of it o.O

and that kiss..........wtf?

any thoughts???
its the only hint of romance in the whole story lol
but who cares anyway no one reads claymore for the romance right

this is my favourite series i like the manga but everyone should watch the anime as well for the nice battle scenes and great soundtracks :)

[qwerty]

I don´t doubt that Raki will be stronger, but the question I have is, when will he notice that the 2 ppl are Youma/Awaken Beings. And what will be his reaction. I cannot imagine that he is 7 years with them without realizing this point. Will he become a Half-Youma, too? A situation like, Clare finds Raki at the side of Priscilla, would be too funny :confused:

[Yuno]

I very like this manga and i am sad to wait for november ._.
i hope ther will be some epic conflict between clare and priscilla, in a battle for the love of raki ^^ and some more ecchi scenes :P

[Cyber]

It's a shame that chapter 74 isn't coming out till november. I have to wait to long~ ;_;
And the Anime will trow in fillers. DX

[DevyOrHaL]

Hey, does anyone know wut the names to chapters 71 and 72 are. about the anime vs the manga, i like the manga more but when it comes to the action ya the anime really shows u wut each character is actually doing and the anime really does stick with the manga and not throw in extra things which makes me like the anime a lot. but ya, they won't be able to release a second season for almost a year or more with only one chapter a month coming out, o well

[Smasher]

November?! Blimey, i know the artworks good and all but...

[Vermillius]

Ohh claymore is .... well if you like Berserk then CLaymore is a soft/love/kickass version .
Claymore = where men are inferior but yet willing to be
claymore = the hairdressers marvel as there are sooooo many hair style.
Claymore = where armor and shields don't protect the body
Clamore = Illegal love relation (Raki and Clare, that damn ****ing kiss)XD
Well claymore is full of win, go read/ watch it.

Men aren't inferior...they just awaken more quickly. Isley, Rigald and Duph are are quite powerful...Isley was stronger than Luciela. It took 2 single Digits and Clare to defeat Duph. Rigald...it basically took an awakened being to beat Rigald.

The 7 year jump will be interesting...Raki will have become an excellent swordsman under the tutelage of Isley. Also...Clare will probably flip when she see Raki with Priscilla...lots of interesting things to look forward to. I just wonder whether or not Raki realizes Isley and Priscilla are awakened beings, although I get the impression that he will probably know...simply because they won't have aged one bit in those seven years, and he will have grown up. I doubt he will be a half yoma though. Only the organization seems to know the process.

[buttercup28101]

i know they don't age but why is miria the only one who changed her hair style.

[Rawr]

Men were actually the stronger claymores, it was just due to the fact that they awaken MUCH more quickly, that women were used instead.
Miria just changed her hair style, cause she wanted to :p

[ion]

can't wait for the next chapter!

I was addicted of the manga after read the first chapter and worse thing, I keep reading while I am having my final exams.

I am just wondering is Raki is going to be any good? somehow, I think it will end tragic

[Shiki Oh No]

to show how some why some of the characters are the way they are....it would suck if we never knew...imo.

[jokrjk]

i know that Clare and the other Claymore have learned new techniques without using their Yoma, but since their Yoma is what sets them apart from humans doesn't that mean that Clare and the other seven have pretty much reached their limit? for example, Clare has awakened her arms and legs, therefore, as far as potential goes, she's reached her limit and can only get better at controlling.
this is kind of scary because if you remember, Irene said that the old Teresa would have killed Priscilla because her potential was greater than that of Teresa, and eventually would be able to beat her.
so essentially Clare and the seven others will only gain battle experience and wisdom? there done as far as potential? kind of crappy...

"somehow, I think it will end tragic" - i agree. there is no other way. Raki is going to be put into a dilemma between people who he has been spending a lot of his life with and Clare, whom he has sworn to protect.

[Cougar]

i dont see the logic in your post..all 7 of them have basicly awakened once or twice..

especialy clare..she awakens everytime she fights...

[jokrjk]

? maybe i phased it confusingly? anyways, i know Clare has awakened many times (perhaps not every time, but at least against the strong opponents). but her awakening does not increase her potential. does that make sense? just as i said, Teresa and Irene talked about potential in "Teresa of a Faint Smile", which ultimately determines how strong the Claymore can be.

[hollywoodlou]

double post

[z3n0cid3]

i just want to show my love for this series =) hehe i think the entertainment is crazy good ^^
i really hope that it goes back to weekly =/ i cant wait a whole month for one chapter TT....

[hollywoodlou]

? maybe i phased it confusingly? anyways, i know Clare has awakened many times (perhaps not every time, but at least against the strong opponents). but her awakening does not increase her potential. does that make sense? just as i said, Teresa and Irene talked about potential in "Teresa of a Faint Smile", which ultimately determines how strong the Claymore can be.

I hope I interpreted your question correctly: It's not HOW MANY TIMES you awaken that "increases your potential" as you termed it...it's HOW YOU AWAKEN that counts, and HOW CLOSE to your limits did you reach before returning. Claymores basically tap unto a higher plateau of power when they awaken and are able to learn from that experience. Look at how Deneve and Clare were able to return to their Claymore forms durring the battle with the yoma-controlling AB.

know they don't age but why is miria the only one who changed her hair style.

I never noticed that Miria changed her do'. What I noticed is that how sexy she is whenever she sits down and crosses her legs.:)

The 7 year jump will be interesting...Raki will have become an excellent swordsman under the tutelage of Isley. Also...Clare will probably flip when she see Raki with Priscilla...lots of interesting things to look forward to. I just wonder whether or not Raki realizes Isley and Priscilla are awakened beings, although I get the impression that he will probably know...simply because they won't have aged one bit in those seven years, and he will have grown up. I doubt he will be a half yoma though. Only the organization seems to know the process.

If Raki STILL doesn't know those 2 companions are AB's...then the majority of Claymore fans who hate the guy are justified. 7 years?? Not only is he useless, he may be that stupid.
Look...even if he becomes the greatest HUMAN swordsman in 7 years, he's till human...and can't beat the weakest # 47 Claymore.
Never mind 7 years, let's all wait for November and find out who that "powerful Claymore" Miata sensed from the castle walls. I doubt it's Galatea.

[hollywoodlou]

i just want to show my love for this series =) hehe i think the entertainment is crazy good ^^
i really hope that it goes back to weekly =/ i cant wait a whole month for one chapter TT....

If you're talking about the manga, It has NEVER been published as a weekly. Each chapter has been published MONTHLY by Shonen Jump since Day 1, and that includes the VIZ English version in North America.

here's what confuses a LOT of people regarding November's launch of the "weekly" JUMP SQUARE> Claymore will still be published MONTHLY, withchapters published on the first week. There are some "geniuses" who think they can 1) write 2) draw/sketch 3) shad 4) letter 5) submit to the publisher the story ALL BY THEMSELVES within 6 days. If DC and Marvel comics release MONTHLY, why is Norihiro Yagi different? He does all of those by himself.

If you were talking about the anime, it's weekly until episode 26.:cool:

[asanta]

oh who cares........... i just want the damn thing to come out already:(

clare is super cool!!!

[hollywoodlou]

Then be freakin patient and suck it in.

[Vermillius]

Never mind 7 years, let's all wait for November and find out who that "powerful Claymore" Miata sensed from the castle walls. I doubt it's Galatea.

If it's not Galatea...then the only other powerful Claymore that comes to mind is Rafaela. Her death was not confirmed...only her disappearance.

[Rawr]

It's like a 90% chance that its Galatea.

[asanta]

or.......................Ilena..... =D

more likely not tho..

[Rawr]

Ilena? She died I thought like a while ago

[namboogie]

well i really think its galatea. the question is will they be able to capture her alive? ^_^

[asanta]

no matter who it may be.... its gonna be a GREAT battle.

former awesome claymore who went AWOL vs current awesome claymore who is a kid.

i wanna see more of Clare fighting tho.

[qwerty]

I am voting for Rafaela too :D

[Jammerjoint]

Probably Raf....or maybe she means Clare and the others. Generally they're all single-digit equivalents....or at least the Slashers. Of course I mean by Class 78 standards, cuz apparently 79 made quite a jump in power.

I'm just finishing The Defiant Ones 2, so yea.

I need to take another look at the rankings list on wiki...

[jokrjk]

so newer generations are stronger than older generations (in general)?

[LostMemories]

the manga's great i want it to come out already lol.... grr anyways yeah... i dunno this manga is pretty unpredictable .. well sorta.. so i'm not voting on one of them... but in the end Claire pwnts
them all XD lol

[buttercup28101]

well i think the newer generations are not as good as the older ones. i think Teresa was the strongest ever.

[TheArchitect]

Fantastic series this is. Dark yet cheerful and packed full of women ready start cutting up fools. Hopefully the series stays around for a good while.

[Rawr]

I think that generally, the older claymores are stronger than the newer generations, however there are always exceptions to that rule

[jokrjk]

I mean by Class 78 standards, cuz apparently 79 made quite a jump in power.
what does class 78 standards mean then? i thought he was referring to the generations...?

[Fang]

Well, the kiss in the anime wasn't that bad. If you see the manga drawing, it's pretty much ecchii.
Raki couldn't do squat to protect Clare anyways. Even if his training produced the best HUMAN swordsman on earth, his skills wouldn't even match the weakest # 47 Claymore.


You never know. If they have youma energy they should have Ki. I haven't seen a single martial artist in the anime. They should have some.

[hollywoodlou]

The new gen of Claymores are a mix of unusual characters. Most are weak but interesting. # 3 pissed her pants when she fought Riful. # 5 is a loud-mouth who doesn't know when to shut up..but BOTH have significantly interesting methods of sword techniques.
#4 currently is a mental basket case.
Now BOTH #1 and 2 are the ones to observe come Chapter 74 in November.

And BTW, it couldn't be Galatea in chapter 73. She just said "the smell of a strong Claymore." in 7 years, Galatea should have improved her yoki-controlling and yoki- far-distance sensing abilities. Miata's just a mentally unstable kid who likes to suc...never mind.

[sooboo4jc]

so friggin good and addicting! :) WOOT!

[`dead]

ahh i can't believe we have to wait untill november!

I'm literally counting the days :'(

[Glowstuff]

The new gen of Claymores are a mix of unusual characters. Most are weak but interesting. # 3 pissed her pants when she fought Riful. # 5 is a loud-mouth who doesn't know when to shut up..but BOTH have significantly interesting methods of sword techniques.
#4 currently is a mental basket case.
Now BOTH #1 and 2 are the ones to observe come Chapter 74 in November.

And BTW, it couldn't be Galatea in chapter 73. She just said "the smell of a strong Claymore." in 7 years, Galatea should have improved her yoki-controlling and yoki- far-distance sensing abilities. Miata's just a mentally unstable kid who likes to suc...never mind.

But #4 isn't tracking her by her Yoki-energy, she has the super senses remeber, and she has been taking yoki suppressant pills.

[Utensil]

Forget sword skills. I want to see if the monsters turned Raki into a half human half yoma. I doubt Raki would turn them down if they asked him nicely without revealing their true form. He's such a Claymore groupie already he'd probably jump at the chance.

As for his sword skills, I personally hope he wised up and realized swords suck - he needs to learn how to use the bow. That would be cool (super archer Raki, pupil of Easley of the Abyss:cookies:).

[Hynavian]

Probably Raf....or maybe she means Clare and the others. Generally they're all single-digit equivalents....or at least the Slashers. Of course I mean by Class 78 standards, cuz apparently 79 made quite a jump in power.

I'm just finishing The Defiant Ones 2, so yea.

I need to take another look at the rankings list on wiki...

Hi all, Im new to this forum but a die-hard fan. Yoroshiku! (Please treat me well)

With regards to the above quote, if Miata were to discover Miria and gang, I would then conclude that her 6th sense is pretty screwed up as she's suspose to look for 1 strong claymore and not a group of strong claymores.

So far, below is the list of possibilities that I think Miata will find in that town

#1 - Galatea
#2 - Rafaela
#3 - Irene
#4 - Miria & gang
#5 - A new Claymore character who will come to play a part in influencing the plot in the future.

#6 - One of Miria's gang who's doing grocery shopping in town :devil:

Option #6 is just for laughs :p

[TraN]

I hope the one that miata finds isn't galatea. I don't want her or miata to die..

Anywayz, i reckon the Teresa special and the most recent chapter was a waste of time... I was waiting all that time for those chapters and they were just stupid ones. :(

[Fang]

Im kind of more interested in Raki, Isley and Clarice. There defintely has to be a way for humans to fight on par with Youma and Claymore's.

[hagger]

I think there are a few more "extra scene" chapters to come... its annoying that this manga comes out every month, but if it improves quality, i guess it can't be helped.

I wonder about how much better the new claymores are. It might be that the organisation have become better at making them, but they seem to have the same attitude problems of all claymore.

[Vermillius]

The new generation of Claymores is kind of pathetic when you think about it.

Alicia and Beth have the power of an abyssal one, but don't really have minds. They are a watered down version of Rafaela and Luciela...and they definitely aren't as powerful as Teresa and Priscilla. If Riful finds what she's looking for, all she really has to do is get Beth to awaken so they wouldn't be able to control Alicia.

Irene had the intelligence to play dead when Priscilla Awakened. Galatea knew to escape from Riful. Audrey and Rachel were silly enough to think they could beat Riful? Miata is extremely powerful, but the organization didn't learn it's lesson from Priscilla? That girl is going to awaken and go berzerk...probably a result of Clarice getting killed by someone.

Also judging by the performance of Audrey and Rachel, I think it is safe to say that Miria, Clare, Deneve and Helen have a power comparable to the top 5...of Teresa's generation. I think Miria and Clare might be at least as strong as Rosemary was.

[asanta]

yeh u agree with you vermillius..... the generation of Claymore's when Clare was 47 and before seem so much more reliable than the current Claymores. no crazy kids and etc,.... and Alicia is only controlable when beth is controllin her which means alicia will go BESERK if beth is killed or their mind connection is broken.

but i still wanna see Raki fight, or even training.

I recon Miria and co. could prob take on the top 10.

[Hynavian]

To backup Vermillius point that Claymores of the past generations are stronger than the present Claymores in general (when you look at in as a whole)

Miria and gang stated that present Claymores ranked 30-47 are like filler materials. Just take a look at Clarice, she's a failed creation. Yuma should have not a problem in taking them out if she has more confident in herself.

Similarly, when it comes to IQ or EQ, Claymores of the past seem to have more of it. Galatea< Ilena & Rafaela were smart enough to do the disappearing act when they had the chance to do so. And there's Miria who's smart enough to come out with a survivor plan. Miata, Beth & Alicia don't seem smart enough to take such actions. Further, Miria and gang could sense Riful's true strength (though they're at a distance) when Audrey and Ray couldnt. Much could be said from these incidents.

However, it depends on how you view Alicia and Beth. They don't exactly belong to the newer generation of Claymores as they've been around since Miria and gang were around. Audrey and Ray did have some fanciful moves that were fitting for single digits but their ability to sense yoma power really sucks =D

[Hynavian]

Hehe was figuring where this thread disappeared too. Glad to have found it.

Maybe we can continue with some comments on the latest episode? It's just aired and will need some time to be subbed though :)

[Vermillius]

However, it depends on how you view Alicia and Beth. They don't exactly belong to the newer generation of Claymores as they've been around since Miria and gang were around. Audrey and Ray did have some fanciful moves that were fitting for single digits but their ability to sense yoma power really sucks =D

Audrey and Ray had interesting moves...but it was kind of funny how Riful explained how ineffective they were. Jean's Attack and the Quick Sword seem to be better attacks.

[Lycan]

we can`t forget that miria gang trained for 7 years this cllaymores don`t have much fight i think

[Phantom Miria]

just wondering if anyone has a clue when 74 is out?

[Hynavian]

just wondering if anyone has a clue when 74 is out?

Chapter 74 will be out on 2nd November
Extra Scene 3 on 3rd September
Extra Scene 4 on 1st October


PS: I like the banners that you have made. If possible, can you help me to make one please? :p pretty please :D

[Vermillius]

I was thinking...Clare's partially awakened form was extremely powerful...because in a partially awakened state, she completely crushed Rigald, a former #2. Perhaps her Awakened form was so strong because that would have been Teresa's Awakened form. That's what I'm thinking. And the scary part is, that she couldn't even properly control all of the power.

I think in order to beat Priscilla, Clare and possibly Miria are going to get to a point where they can become Awakened without the craving for human entrais. Otherwise...I really don't see them beating Priscilla...unless they surpass Teresa, which seems a bit impossible.

[Hynavian]

Hmm Riful did state that a puposeful awakening would enable the Claymores to become more stronger than an accidental one. Hence, Clare was able to gain super sonic speed and strength when she knowingly awakened her body parts here and there.

Im just wondering whether she will be able to put up a fight with an abyssal one like Riful or Isley if she's to partially awaken her limbs again.

[RyanLuke]

It's just funny to see Clare's right arm to have another form since it's Irene's. :D


I don't like her legs though, it looked more of a horse-bug.

[SineCosine]

Originally posted by: buttercup28101

why are there are all these extras thingys anyway


i think the fans wants to know how the hell teresa is so strong and who the hel is hilda.. :3

they kinda wanted to share it to claymore fans lol.. XD

[chezkimo]

Hi, just recently joined and love claymore so wanted to join discussion. It is kind of hard to say how powerful teresa as seeing as when she was fighting priscilla at 80% she defeated her at only 10%. However, Priscilla had more potential than her, though not at the time and priscilla awakened as stronger than any of the abyssal ones. But could you imagine if teresa awkaened for some reason!! i'm sure she'd probably stronger than isley and lucia!.

By the way, i totally agree the previous generation is definatly stronger than the new one. The new generation seems to be more about flashy techniques than over all strength and speed. For example former #3 galatae not only had the ability to slightly control yoki but of all claymore of that time her power increased more than any others when releasing yoki. The new generation's #3 didn't even have good yoki sensing abilities and only used that technique she used that deflects an opponents attack...that and she was stupid enough to think riful of the west would be a push over. tsk tsk, never good to under-estimate riful no matter how brutally strong you are. Also, just look at the new #9's technique compared to old #9 jean's technique which was able to drill through Dauf. (yeah i know i type too much)

By the way, teresa, best #1 claymore ever, no future #1 will surpass her, especially alicia.

[Vermillius]

Anyone interested in a Claymore RP pm me. I will need at least other 2 DMs.

[Hynavian]

Hi chezkimo, welcome to the Claymore discussion thread ;)

The newer generation Claymores (just like you said), definitely have some fanciful moves but when pit against the older generations, they are definitely far off. Look at Miata! A kid who has some screws loose is actually the number #4. Intrestingly, do you all notice that the #4 position seems to be taken up by claymores who are dangerous and tough to control? ===> Ophelia and Miata

Lets try to defend the newer generation of claymores. Maybe we can say that their speciality is not in reading yoki, hence, we can't really discredit them for challenging Riful. Everyone has their speciality I guess.

[asanta]

i think i get ya..... the newer generation is more offensive. contrast to the older generation where they were all-rounders where there were both offensive and defensive

totally off the topic......... i think the newer generation is less pretty :o

and of course Clare is the best:p

[Vermillius]

...I don't think the newer generation is more powerful offensively.

In fact I think that the organization is purposefully creating the newer generation to be more docile and obedient than the previous generations...so that they are easy to control, and even easier to replace. Claymores work best when they die quickly...that is the motto of the organization.

[Hynavian]

totally off the topic......... i think the newer generation is less pretty :o

and of course Clare is the best:p

We have only seen around 8 of the newer generation of Claymores. My opinion is that I definitely prefer the older generation's claymore hairstyles as compared to the newer generations. Look at Rachel, her hairstyle is too short for my liking. :eban:

[Vermillius]

Rachel is strikingly unfeminine. Audrey and the other ones looked normal enough though.

[hollywoodlou]

i dont like the new gen of Claymores. Audrey pissed her pants with Riful, Rachel's a loudmouth who get what she deserved...but Miata's the most interesting one though. She might be mentally unstable but the "sucking" action sure is captivating.;)

[ion]

hahaha yeah the new generation kind of turn me off :P esp after the audrey wet pant tragedy.
I love the teressa generation much better but oh well! I just hope they revealed more about Miata and the twins no1 and no 2. Also, I am pretty much curious, how far clare can goes wild and does teressa body will give her some effect?

[Hynavian]

Oh ya did you all manage to catch episode 20 of Claymore?


Coming back to the topic, I think Teresa's flesh definitely did give Clare the ability to sense Yoki to the extreme as she depended on this aspect to keep herself alive in battles (as seen in the batlle against Rigaldo and the one against the male awakened being in the slashers).

However, to be able to continuously maintain her human consciousness while awakening parts of her body here and there is no easy feat. I think this has got to do to the fact that she's 3/4 human. Hence, enabling the human side gaining victory.

[tsunade666]

I would agree for some reason about that and I'm currently watching the anime epi 18 hehehe haven't read the manga :devil:
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[Hynavian]

I would agree for some reason about that and I'm currently watching the anime epi 18 hehehe haven't read the manga :devil:
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The anime is currently still ongoing and is now atl episode 20. Feel free to read the manga, its much more detailed and can be found on the One Manga site ;)

PS: Anyone interested in Claymore RP? Check out the RP Corner, Claymore - Class 85 and join in.

[Vermillius]

Oh ya did you all manage to catch episode 20 of Claymore?


Coming back to the topic, I think Teresa's flesh definitely did give Clare the ability to sense Yoki to the extreme as she depended on this aspect to keep herself alive in battles (as seen in the batlle against Rigaldo and the one against the male awakened being in the slashers).

However, to be able to continuously maintain her human consciousness while awakening parts of her body here and there is no easy feat. I think this has got to do to the fact that she's 3/4 human. Hence, enabling the human side gaining victory.

Hmm...I never consider that her being 3/4 human might have something to do with her ability to go past the limit, but that could be true. Although...when she fought Rigald...I'm pretty sure that the form she took on would have been Teresa's Awakened form.

Good point though.

[hollywoodlou]

hahaha yeah the new generation kind of turn me off :P esp after the audrey wet pant tragedy.
I love the teressa generation much better but oh well! I just hope they revealed more about Miata and the twins no1 and no 2. Also, I am pretty much curious, how far clare can goes wild and does teressa body will give her some effect?

Ion, Just to show you how much a "monster" Teresa was...if Teresa is in Clare, Clare is 1/4 yoma...how come Clare is STILL one of the best Claymores out there? Even after awakening.
That must be some hi-quality blood Teresa had...

Oh ya did you all manage to catch episode 20 of Claymore?


H...the "emergency" sub by Notanon was crappy. The grammar was horrible BUt they did everyone a service by subbing "for" Eclipse. Eclipse fumbled the ball, and Notanon ran away with it. Bad thing is...they didn't spell-check it and one more time I hear Ricardo instead of Rigald, I'm gonna go ballistic.

[noradseven]

no i think that just restricts maximum yoma power not combat skills plus she has a right arm which is 1/2 yoma.

I still can't wait to see how raki's training went, I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a claymore himself, cause as we have seen guys can be claymores too its just harder to control.

I just hope raki is no longer a helpless wimp.

[hollywoodlou]

In that case, I'm all for Raki becoming the 2nd gen Male Claymore.

WHEN he awakens, at least he's a target for killing and Clare has no choice but to put him down. And all Claymore fans rejoice.

[darthalvarez]

you guys must have missed the point...Raki wanting to become strong was so that he could protect Claire. Eventhough he said that he would do anything to reach that goal, I don't believe that he would become the very monster that destroyed his family.

Maybe he would become a Claymore, but not a yoma. I say that cause the man that he is training under (forgot his name >.< ) he is a male Claymore - awakened being and he should know how he was made into a claymore in the first place.

I wouldnt be suprised if Riku didnt even notice the truth about Prisilla and his new master. So there would be tensions and confusion when Claire goes to kill the guy - ahh cant remember his name :'( but one thing is for sure. Seven years passed, Riku is now i grown man (passed the age of 16 a guy is considered a man - in the older says anywayz) so he should be faster, stronger, capable of defeating single digit claymore's due to his training and determination

and no i wouldnt be happy if Claire killed Riku

the reason that claire only half awakened had nothing to do with her being 3/4 human, as we can see, those seven women are all half awakened and 6 are 1/2 human.

not only that...claire was 1/4 yoma + the arm from a claymore that was 1/2 human, what does that make her? and no its not as easy as you think because its only an arm, not an entire body that we are talkin about (if you understand what i mean)

now, i wonder something. where is it that the organization gets these yoma to implant into people? it could be obvious i guess, by killing them. so if you think about it, there is a difference in the power (and other attributes) of the claymores. Why? Yes it can be attributed to a person's willpower (not always so), to their training, determination, and other character traits affect that person's overall strength, but dont the yoma parts inplanted into the person also have say in how powerful you can be?

For example; Teresa, the strongest Claymore of her time. Why? she had her natural abilities that surpassed others, but i surmise that she was implanted with better(?) yoma parts than others... i hope you understand what i mean.

[negitoro]

For example; Teresa, the strongest Claymore of her time. Why? she had her natural abilities that surpassed others, but i surmise that she was implanted with better(?) yoma parts than others... i hope you understand what i mean.

I think it's a lot of natural talent. It's sort of like even though you can give the same steroids to two different athletes, they won't turn out the same. The better athlete will still be better.

[hollywoodlou]

you guys must have missed the point...Raki wanting to become strong was so that he could protect Claire. Eventhough he said that he would do anything to reach that goal, I don't believe that he would become the very monster that destroyed his family.

Maybe he would become a Claymore, but not a yoma. I say that cause the man that he is training under (forgot his name >.< ) he is a male Claymore - awakened being and he should know how he was made into a claymore in the first place.

Yes, we ALL KNOW that Raki is there to "protect" Clare...maybe I should've placed my sarcasm smiley face. Let's put it this way, even if Raki became (by a long shot miracle) the greatest human swordsman on earth, he would pale in comparison to the weakest # 47 Claymore.
How's that for protection??

I wouldnt be suprised if Riku didnt even notice the truth about Prisilla and his new master. So there would be tensions and confusion when Claire goes to kill the guy - ahh cant remember his name :'( but one thing is for sure. Seven years passed, Riku is now i grown man (passed the age of 16 a guy is considered a man - in the older says anywayz) so he should be faster, stronger, capable of defeating single digit claymore's due to his training and determination

and no i wouldnt be happy if Claire killed Riku


Raki still hasn't noticed after 7 years? How bout' dinner time? Just imagine Raki asking those 2: "gee guys, I havent seen you eat anything in 7 years, what gives?"

As I've said, we have a HUMAN, yes HUMAN Raki beating single digits??? HUMANS who cant' even defeat the strength of an ordinary Yoma? OK, that theory is so ridiculous, i wont even try to speculate.

Raki dying is just part of the upcoming tragedy which is the central theme of Claymore.

now, i wonder something. where is it that the organization gets these yoma to implant into people? it could be obvious i guess, by killing them. so if you think about it, there is a difference in the power (and other attributes) of the claymores. Why? Yes it can be attributed to a person's willpower (not always so), to their training, determination, and other character traits affect that person's overall strength, but dont the yoma parts inplanted into the person also have say in how powerful you can be?


How do we know that the yomas are dead when yoma blood is transferred? Have you considered the option that yomas are actually alive when blood is transferred? It's like using blood from a cadaver for blood transfusion in gunshot victims. Doesn't make sense.
Blood transferred from yomas may have an effect on the human Claymore host, but the major factor to consider is also whether they end up being offensive OR defensive warriors.

Nobody knows how the ORG gets yoma blood , it's origins and it's members.

I think it's a lot of natural talent. It's sort of like even though you can give the same steroids to two different athletes, they won't turn out the same. The better athlete will still be better.

I agree. Teresa might have human genes that made her stand out amongst the rest of the bunch. If we are all given the same amount of "blood" quality-wise, wouldn't the prerogative be on the patient's spirit to recuperate or that person's individual characteristic to help it adapt for recovery?

[Hynavian]

I wouldnt be suprised if Riku didnt even notice the truth about Prisilla and his new master. So there would be tensions and confusion when Claire goes to kill the guy - ahh cant remember his name :'( but one thing is for sure. Seven years passed, Riku is now i grown man (passed the age of 16 a guy is considered a man - in the older says anywayz) so he should be faster, stronger, capable of defeating single digit claymore's due to his training and determination
For sure, Raki is not able to defeat Youmas even if he had under-gone intensive sword training for 7 years. Good examples would be Gak and his brother in the first few episodes. Im sure they're #1: men over the age of 16, and #2: have been training in weapontry for years. Just look at their performances when they're battling that youma in the citadel.


the reason that claire only half awakened had nothing to do with her being 3/4 human, as we can see, those seven women are all half awakened and 6 are 1/2 human.
Maybe you've mis-understood what I was trying to bring across. Im stating that Clare was able to awaken parts of herself here and there (in terms of the number of times and the her ability to control) more successfully than the others. Yes, Jeane can recover from a fully awakened body but I dont see Jeane using her transformed butterfly form challenging Dulf while maintaing her human consciousness right? However, we see Clare able to have some control over her powers when she has chosen to awaken bits and parts of herself. Come to it, we also havent seen any of the gang awakening parts of their body so far (as seen in clare). Hence, Im just suggesting that her 3/4 human side (which makes her unique) might be a factor that allows her to accomplish such feats.

I think it's a lot of natural talent. It's sort of like even though you can give the same steroids to two different athletes, they won't turn out the same. The better athlete will still be better.
Agreed. To add on, the person's personality and character will also be the determining factor. For eg, if the claymore has powers that can allow her to be the organisation's #1 but is kind at heart and always relents when killing an opponent, Im sure she'll be a goner with such a mellowed character. A good potential who won't kill youmas is no potential at all.

[darthalvarez]

For sure, Raki is not able to defeat Youmas even if he had under-gone intensive sword training for 7 years. Good examples would be Gak and his brother in the first few episodes. Im sure they're #1: men over the age of 16, and #2: have been training in weapontry for years. Just look at their performances when they're battling that youma in the citadel.

they havent been training under an awakened being (which gives u many more advantages)...and its most probable that he became a claymore...oh well, he said that he was willing to do anything to protect Claire. I dont think that after seven years he would forget that...and if put in a position where he has to choose between her and the awakened being...in the end he may die to protect her. that's really the only way id like him to die...i wouldnt wanna see Claire kill him...it would just be the last string to make her become an awakened being herself. think about it, he changed her and she loves him - as a lil bro...but then she kissed him...anywayz, the reason she left the north was to look for him.


Maybe you've mis-understood what I was trying to bring across. Im stating that Clare was able to awaken parts of herself here and there (in terms of the number of times and the her ability to control) more successfully than the others. Yes, Jeane can recover from a fully awakened body but I dont see Jeane using her transformed butterfly form challenging Dulf while maintaing her human consciousness right? However, we see Clare able to have some control over her powers when she has chosen to awaken bits and parts of herself. Come to it, we also havent seen any of the gang awakening parts of their body so far (as seen in clare). Hence, Im just suggesting that her 3/4 human side (which makes her unique) might be a factor that allows her to accomplish such feats.

as you all have so kindly said, about ones natural abilities. Claire being only 1/4 yoma in my estimation doesnt factor into any of this. if anything, Claire and only Claire can do that because it would be Claire's natural ability to be able to withstand having some of her body parts awakened. put someone else in that position while being 1/4 yoma...i doubt she'd be able to do the same.

and the other claymore's aint crazy enough to attempt something that brings them so close to becoming yoma.

as i said before, im not discounting one's natural ability to make them stronger than the others, im saying that what is implanted MAY(this is where im changing it) also affect them. since you yourselves (nor I for that matter) dont know how the organization acquires the yoma parts (and its not only yoma blood).

and about the org. there is so much mystery surrounding them...who are the leaders? we have seen them in the shadows but we dont know what their goals are. are they half yoma? they themselves have created their own enemies (the awakened beings), yea yea we know that they didnt intentionally do so but it still makes u wonder...

even though backstory is kinda boring...it would help a lil...backstory to what? the entire world of "Claymore"
the world is cut up into 47 pieces each piece defended by at least on claymore. any governments? we know that there is at least one religion. but it feels as if the organization has a lot of control over the world.

i wonder if its really posible to fully awaken and keep ur conscienceness (sp, oh well :P) cause Claire was capable of awakening her body parts which i guess its the farthest anyone has gone. cause there is no one who can stand up to an awakened being on the level of the abysmal ones. yea yea the org. now has those twins but what will happen if Beth loses concentration even for a small moment?

sorry for rambling :)

and guys im only offering suggestions...o_o i type my thoughts and they can all be maybe's even if they seem farfetched

[Hynavian]

they havent been training under an awakened being (which gives u many more advantages)...and its most probable that he became a claymore...oh well, he said that he was willing to do anything to protect Claire. I dont think that after seven years he would forget that...and if put in a position where he has to choose between her and the awakened being...in the end he may die to protect her. that's really the only way id like him to die...i wouldnt wanna see Claire kill him...it would just be the last string to make her become an awakened being herself. think about it, he changed her and she loves him - as a lil bro...but then she kissed him...anywayz, the reason she left the north was to look for him.
Though it'll be great for Raki to become a Claymore (so that we readers won't see a wimpy man crying in one corner or so), I highly doubt that Isley & Priscilla actually knows how to make him one. I will like to think that if they do know how to turn humans into claymores, Isley should have been able to make an army of awakened beings within the 7 years span.

And Im on your side with regards to the part where you wouldnt want to see Clare killing Raki if he ever becomes an awakened being. Your idea of Clare maybe awakening herself just for Raki's sake (to stay with him as a fellow awakened being) will make many Claymore fans stare in awe as their shounen manga has changed into a romance based manga. However, personally, I also hope that Clare and Raki will both awaken and rule the Claymroe world! :eban: Now that's not a bad idea for a start since Riful-Dulph and Isley-Priscilla are doing it.

and about the org. there is so much mystery surrounding them...who are the leaders? we have seen them in the shadows but we dont know what their goals are. are they half yoma?
I definitely agree with you that the organisation's leaders are highly mysterious but I would like to convince you that they're not half-youmas. Lets say if the organisation's people are half youmas...
1. Rafaela would have killed them all.
2. Teresa would have killed them all.
3. Galatea would have killed them all.
Need I explain more? Yes I should....:rolleyes:
Higher rankers like the above 3 have direct contact with the organisation's higher and lower beings in general. The above 3 warriors are greatly apt at reading Yoki. A young trainee Teresa was able to sense Rafaela's yoki though she has suppressed it. Rafaela was the only one who was able to find warriors who are suppressing their yoki. Galatea was able to know the true yoki level of riful though riful has cleverly hidden it. Hence, to hide their half youma status by suppressing their yoki is not possible when encountering the above 3 warriors. The possibilities that I can come out with is that the organisation beings are either of a totally different monstrous species (not youma and not human) or that they're just normla humans trying to play God (trying to make & experiment on a new species) However, Im not certain though as the above are just some of my speculations.

sorry for rambling :)
and guys im only offering suggestions...o_o i type my thoughts and they can all be maybe's even if they seem farfetched
Neh not a problem, its only with discussions where we can further improve and think more in-depth. I also like your ideas at times, though they do oppose mine :cookies:

[darthalvarez]

And Im on your side with regards to the part where you wouldnt want to see Clare killing Raki if he ever becomes an awakened being. Your idea of Clare maybe awakening herself just for Raki's sake (to stay with him as a fellow awakened being) will make many Claymore fans stare in awe as their shounen manga has changed into a romance based manga. However, personally, I also hope that Clare and Raki will both awaken and rule the Claymroe world! :eban: Now that's not a bad idea for a start since Riful-Dulph and Isley-Priscilla are doing it.

that would be a good idea Claire and Riku but it really boils down to find a way (if posible) to awaken and keep ur sanity, cause i think claire would kill herself or someone would kill her before she because yoma.

i read the first chapter of Claymore, and i thought that the story would be more about Riku than of Claire. i thought that he would become a claymore or something.

I definitely agree with you that the organisation's leaders are highly mysterious but I would like to cpnvince you that they're not half-youmas. Lets say if the organisation's people are half youmas...
1. Rafaela would have killed them all.
2. Teresa would have killed them all.
3. Galatea would have killed them all.
Need I explain more? Yes I should....:rolleyes:
Higher rankers like the above 3 have direct contact with the organisation's higher and lower beings in general. The above 3 warriors are greatly apt at reading Yoki. A young trainee Teresa was able to sense Rafaela's yoki though she has suppressed it. Rafaela was the only one who was able to find warriors who are suppressing their yoki. Galatea was able to know the true yoki level of riful though riful has cleverly hidden it. Hence, to hide their half youma status by suppressing their yoki is not possible when encountering the above 3 warriors. The possibilities that I can come out with is that the organisation beings are either of a totally different monstrous species (not youma and not human) or that they're just normla humans trying to play God (trying to make & experiment on a new species) However, Im not certain though as the above are just some of my speculations.

i dunno really. cause they have a sence of power over the claymores but they themselves dont go and do the dirty work, so i would side with you in the 2 posibilities - they are humans playing god or they are another species all together.

that is why i say that i want to know more of the backstory to Claymore. how did the org begin? we know that male claymore's are stronger than women (some, but most are more seceptible to becoming yoma). where do yoma come from? they have concentrated on awakened claymores but i also want to see a yoma. what do i mean? well as a yoma eats more and more humans, they become stronger and more cunning, i want to see one just as strong as lets say riful, as well as inteligent.

i really wonder why the claymore's were made. because fusing a yoma into a human body is only but ONE option. and this option created the higher awakened beings...

i feel as if there is so much more to this

[nihilistik]

Nice incite so far :) I think the Organisation like many other secret bodies is about power. Fear is a weapon He who controls that fear controls the world. A lot of fans notice the newer claymores are sometimes weakers However some are stronger eg. "Miata" but as we can see the goal of the organisation changes from time to time and in most recent yrs they had also been attempting to design a more obedient claymore, which sometimes as a side-effect creates a limited thinking less intelligent claymore. What im interested in though whether clare and mirias band will ever co-exist with the organisation or will there be a war between claymores. Grin) i know the organisation would not allow co-existence.

[darthalvarez]

that last sentence hits in on the money - the org wont allow co-existence. yet they cant do anything about Claire and her lil band of half-awakened claymores because they learned to high their yoma energy. but something will happen. which will probably be, revealing the secret to yoma, and why claymore's awaken and what the org wants, not to mention who they are.

[hagger]

I suspect that the organisation are a hidden power... the thing is, why are they hidden? There doesnt appear to be any serious government around, apart from that religion, which is anti-yoma. That could be a reason to be hidden, but given their attitude to human life, surely they'd just reign over the people with terror and Yoma? Is there something stopping them from doing that?
Still, that doesnt answer the question about whether they are human or not. I think that they have to have something to do with Yoma, maybe they're a different type? Or possibly awakened, but that doesnt explain why the Awakened ones dont just join the org... We need to know more.

[darthalvarez]

i've said this before but i'll say it again. i want the author of Claymore - which i really like, to show us more of this world, to reveal more of its secrets...not all but just a few to understand. in a way, i want the scale of the manga to go up...

[Hynavian]

Yup guys, we need to give Mr Norihiro Yagi time to develop his manga. You wouldn't want to know all the answers in one volume ya :p

I feel that the Claymore world seemed to work on provincial basis. Eg: each village or town governing themselves. There don't seem to be a centralised system of governance. However, the Claymore organisation appears to be one of the top notch systematic government around.

While waiting for the next chapter to be out, lets have fun speculating. What do you all think will be in chapter 74? (eg: plot wise or what are your expectations). Lets see who will get the closest guess.

[darthalvarez]

meh...refresh me mind, what happened in chap 73?

wait...i think i remember, Claire got info from Riful. but then there is also the side story of the Number 4 and new number 47, they are chasing after rafaela(i think) and then they will go up against claire's group which would be an intense battle i think

i know that Claire and her group will head towards Islan, Pricilla and inadverdently Riku...

[ryanmax23]

number 4 psyco girlie and the new number 47 arnt after raphaela they are after galetea.

Now who ever is in that town they stoped at who knows but chances are it is galetea, cause she's the one they are chasing but for all we know it could be raphelea, or it could be clare and the others, or who knows there could be a twist and itll end up being raki as a male claymore lol ( be good if he ended up being the only male claymore to control his powers and resist awakening like clare and the others :P ), we will just have to wait and see what he comes up with.

also there better be a second series to the anime or ima gonna be pissed off i love the anime just as much as i do the manga and if i dotn get my action anime fix of claymore my heads gonna explode.

[darthalvarez]

meh i forgot her name

but maybe claire's group, galetea and the org cloymore's meet up in the same town

[AzN]

i really wish this manga would come out weekly or even bi-weekly instead of monthly. the wait is murder lol.

[ryanmax23]

yes the wait is big murder being monthly sucks big time :(

[darthalvarez]

yes it does, the chapters should be longer

[Vermillius]

I wouldnt be suprised if Riku didnt even notice the truth about Prisilla and his new master. So there would be tensions and confusion when Claire goes to kill the guy - ahh cant remember his name :'( but one thing is for sure. Seven years passed, Riku is now i grown man (passed the age of 16 a guy is considered a man - in the older says anywayz) so he should be faster, stronger, capable of defeating single digit claymore's due to his training and determination


Raki isn't beating a single digits if he is only human. When Clare fought against the Yoma in the Ministry, those two human warriors were helpless in front of the yoma, and it was just a yoma. For him to beat a normal yoma is a stretch, for him to beat a Claymore as a human being is not possible. Beating a single digit is out of the question.

The only way Raki can get the strength he desires is to become a Claymore. Perhaps Isley is aware of the process, and may have made Raki into a Claymore...but as a human can do very little to protect Clare physically. Raki can only protect Clare emotionally as a human.

As for the leaders of the organization...

They appear to be all men, and they all appear to have non human characteristics... particularly odd folds on their heads. They apparently lack the ability to detect Yoki(like the slayers mission)...I imagine they have infused some yoma within themselves in order to increase their own lifespan, but not to inherit any of the powersThis organization can be considered the rulers of the Claymore world. They get money from any and every village that reports Yoma, so they have financial power. They possess the Claymores, who are far stronger than any humans, so they have military power, and they are the only ones with all of the information in regards to yoma, so they have the power of knowledge as well. Their motives at this point seem unknown, but they are definitely the ones in control.

On another topic...I wonder what the other extra scene is going to be?

Are the going to show what happened when Riful Awakened? Or perhaps the Awakening of Luciela?

Or the Awakening of Isley, and some history on the Era of male claymores?

Are we going to see back story for Deneve and Helen?

Perhaps more history on Galatea?

Or better yet...Priscilla's first encounter with Isley.

It will definitely be interesting.

[Hynavian]

Vermillius you're my buddy :) It seems like half of what you have speculated for the side scenes are what Im expecting too. Im definitely hoping for one of the below to appear for the upcoming side scenes. Hopefully its on...

1. Galatea [Maybe on how she deserted or one of her adventures maybe with Jeane?]

2. The "meeting" between Priscilla & Isley [Why exactly did Isley submit to Priscilla]

3. Flora's wind cutter history or any of her exciting journey with the old Claymores.

4. Veronica & Cynthia's comradeship? [It occured to me that there is a possibility that Cynthia can't only be taking the role of a First Aider for the group and might have gained something from Veronica - just like how Clare gotten windcutter, helen gotten jean's skill etc]


The only way Raki can get the strength he desires is to become a Claymore. Perhaps Isley is aware of the process, and may have made Raki into a Claymore...but as a human can do very little to protect Clare physically. Raki can only protect Clare emotionally as a human.
I totally agree with you that Raki has no chance of beating up an awakened being. He can be the world's best swordman but he won't be able to win the #47 Claymore...well but the lower numbers of the new generation of Claymores are a failure.....hmmm.....:rolleyes: However, Raki can protect Clare physically if he wants to....that is by offering himself as a human meat shield! :eban: (joking here cause im bored after a day of hard work)


Touching on another topic with regards to my speculations for chapter 74, Im still trying to include more possible candidates. Maybe you guys can lend me a hand ya.

The strong claymore that Miata sensed could be....

1. Galatea

2. Rafaela

3. Irene

4. Raki (If he doesn becomes one)

5. Any of Miria & gang who's shopping for groceries in town.

5. Some other Claymore that might bring a twist to the plot [any ideas?]

[hollywoodlou]

I totally agree with you that Raki has no chance of beating up an awakened being. He can be the world's best swordman but he won't be able to win the #47 Claymore...well but the lower numbers of the new generation of Claymores are a failure.....hmmm..... However, Raki can protect Clare physically if he wants to....that is by offering himself as a human meat shield! (joking here cause im bored after a day of hard work)

Raki is a pet Husky to those 2 Abyssals. Basically, Raki is being taught new sword "tricks" by Isley as long as his girlfriend is happy. As long as Raki is "obedient", he wont end up like a breakfast burrito if Priscilla awakens and go hungry.

Touching on another topic with regards to my speculations for chapter 74, Im still trying to include more possible candidates. Maybe you guys can lend me a hand ya.

The strong claymore that Miata sensed could be....

1. Galatea

2. Rafaela

3. Irene

4. Raki (If he doesn becomes one)

5. Any of Miria & gang who's shopping for groceries in town.

5. Some other Claymore that might bring a twist to the plot [any ideas?]

Mice list or ANY of the above. As long as they want REVENGE against the ORG, or are on the run FROM the Org, it could be anyone.
In addition, I want to know what Claris and Miata will do once they identify who that "powerful Claymore" is. Will Miata hold her own?
You can also add the long-shot option of Teresa on that list...

[asanta]

Teresa???......... i think if you remember that Clare took her HEAD so that Clare could become a Claymore........

or are you talking about another Teresa

[darthalvarez]

are you sure that Claire only took Teresa's head?i thought she took her body cause the head doesnt add up to the 1/4 yoma that she is

and i doubt that Prisilla would eat Riku, she likes him and his smell...if anything they could get physical o_o

[nihilistik]

Personally i dont think the claymore miata sensed is raphaella, why raphaella should be travelling with her sister luciela( i think she brought her back) are we forgetting that rafaela is the claymore who has never released her yoki the master stealth. In any case i must admit it would be interesting ! say that it were, Who do u think would win being that both have number one potential.

Miata or Rafaela

[darthalvarez]

um...miata...eventhough she is unstable she can be the number 1 of the current claymore's the past is somewhat clouded...

[Hynavian]

Teresa???......... i think if you remember that Clare took her HEAD so that Clare could become a Claymore........

or are you talking about another Teresa

Hollywoodlou was referring that he's hoping for another extra scene on probably Teresa again (just like in extra scene 1). I think you have mistaken his message somewhere.

[hollywoodlou]

Hollywoodlou was referring that he's hoping for another extra scene on probably Teresa again (just like in extra scene 1). I think you have mistaken his message somewhere.

That wasn't a misquote. It sounds far-fetched BUT how many people here WERE NOT surprised that Irene showed up to save Clare in the forest? I just threw that in to widen the options...

Personally i dont think the claymore miata sensed is raphaella, why raphaella should be travelling with her sister luciela( i think she brought her back) are we forgetting that rafaela is the claymore who has never released her yoki the master stealth. In any case i must admit it would be interesting ! say that it were, Who do u think would win being that both have number one potential.

My interpretation of that scene was that Raphaela "absorbed" Luciela's yoma/Abyssal power, killing her and added it to her own.
Anybody can be #1, but Alicia's spot seems secure with that display of power near the ORg HQ.

[Hynavian]

@Hollywoodlou

Yup, Im trying to defend you against asanta's comment buddy :D Im agreeing that its ok to have another extra side scene on teresa =D

@nihilistik

I do hope that Miata battle it out with any other claymore (be it Rafaela or Galatea). Im getting bored with the little action coming from the older generation of Claymores.

We can name the battle...
The past vs the present! :)

[hagger]

Im thinking that the Extra Scenes may be focusing on Teresa, helping to give some background to new fans of the series. I dont think we'll see any suprising material there, although I would like to be proven wrong there: theres so much potential back story in this manga!
There could be a number of outcomes for Raki.

1. Turns into a type of Claymore or hybrid, suppressing the desire to awaken for the sake of Clare, and helps Clare destroy Priscilla. However, he might turn into an awakened Yoma, resulting in Clare having to kill him... or not, possibly.

2. Becomes servant/tool of Priscilla, resulting in an encounter with Clare and much emotion. He could return to Clare's side, or be killed by Clare.

Both of these would be interesting, but I'd personally prefer a mix: becoming a hybrid Yoma, and then returning to Clare, helping her in the destruction of the Org. However, I think it quite likely that he would die, giving Clare impetus to destroy the Org.

Thing is, we still know nothing of him, which really annoys me: where are you Raki?? To be honest, its really impossible to define whats going to happen, as anything can happen over 7 years: hes practically an adult now! I just suspect that things will get more interesting once he comes back...

[hollywoodlou]

@Hollywoodlou

Yup, Im trying to defend you against asanta's comment buddy :D Im agreeing that its ok to have another extra side scene on teresa =D

@nihilistik

I do hope that Miata battle it out with any other claymore (be it Rafaela or Galatea). Im getting bored with the little action coming from the older generation of Claymores.

We can name the battle...
The past vs the present! :)

Ummm. thanks H!. And yes, I do agree that another Teresa sidestory would make my day!;)

There are also other extra scenes worht looking into: e.g's

1) How Helen and Deneve 1st met....

2) How Riful OR Isley operated when they were the first #1's in Claymore history...man or woman

3) How Ophelia went nuts

4) On Teresa..maybe a sidestory on how she became # 1

[Hynavian]

Thing is, we still know nothing of him, which really annoys me: where are you Raki?? To be honest, its really impossible to define whats going to happen, as anything can happen over 7 years: hes practically an adult now! I just suspect that things will get more interesting once he comes back...

Same thought here. Raki where are you! You won't abandon a sexy Clare after living with Priscialla & Isley for 7 years right? ;)

3) How Ophelia went nuts
That would be intersting. Or maybe they can also show some of Ophelia's nutty missions.

[darthalvarez]

Raki made a promise (i think) and he told Isley that he would do anything so that he could become strong enough to protect Claire. I dont believe that he has forgotten that...they love each other...dunno how deep that goes tho...

[nihilistik]

That wasn't a misquote. It sounds far-fetched BUT how many people here WERE NOT surprised that Irene showed up to save Clare in the forest? I just threw that in to widen the options...



My interpretation of that scene was that Raphaela "absorbed" Luciela's yoma/Abyssal power, killing her and added it to her own.
Anybody can be #1, but Alicia's spot seems secure with that display of power near the ORg HQ.

Well thats a feasible interpretation but it somehow doesnt account for raphaela's dissappearance(ive come to expect a surprise factor) Howevr a spowerful as Alicia and her sis may be their still test tube baby's currently deemed incapable of independent thought.

Even more though the new rank claymores have more talent they seem to have far less battle experience, which accounts for a lot as was evident in battle between teresa and priscilla.

[hollywoodlou]

Well thats a feasible interpretation but it somehow doesnt account for raphaela's dissappearance(ive come to expect a surprise factor) Howevr a spowerful as Alicia and her sis may be their still test tube baby's currently deemed incapable of independent thought.

Even more though the new rank claymores have more talent they seem to have far less battle experience, which accounts for a lot as was evident in battle between teresa and priscilla.

Raphaela disappeared because the deal with Rubel was that after Teresa died, and #s 2-5 are "out of commission" due to #2 Pris awakening, the ORg had no choice but to scrape the bottom of the barrel, and offer Raphaela the # 5 position.

In exchange...for info on where Luciela's whereabouts. Raphaela got what she wanted, killed her sister...doesn't need the ORG anymore. She can do whatever she wants...

Alicia and Beth should be coherent enough to communicate BUT Beth was "carrying" Alicia's soul during the battle, ergo, her brain turns to mush BUT I agree once the battles are over and NO "soul link" is done...those 2 should be normal hot Claymore twins.

The new gen of Claymores are disappointments...# 3 pissed her pants with Riful, # 5 's a blabber mouth who got what she deserved, # 4's a mentally unstable kid who sucks tits...I yearn for the old school Claymores of # 1 to 5.

[hagger]

The new gen of Claymores are disappointments...# 3 pissed her pants with Riful, # 5 's a blabber mouth who got what she deserved, # 4's a mentally unstable kid who sucks tits...I yearn for the old school Claymores of # 1 to 5.

:lol::lol: Agreed! However, I reckon #4 could become quite interesting to the plot: whats going to happen with the claymore who guides her? #4's loyalty is most likely to her, so if she matures and turns against the organisation, then that would be a major bonus. Dunno how likely that is though.

Another question for the side stories: whats so bad about the front of a Claymore's body, that it put off a bunch of horny pillaging bandits? Is it just Teresa, as the Claymore who looks after #4 seems pretty normal...? :confused: Also, I'd like to know more about the origins of Claymores, and their training. Wouldn't mind finding more about Ophelia too!

[hollywoodlou]

:lol::lol: Agreed! However, I reckon #4 could become quite interesting to the plot: whats going to happen with the claymore who guides her? #4's loyalty is most likely to her, so if she matures and turns against the organisation, then that would be a major bonus. Dunno how likely that is though.

Another question for the side stories: whats so bad about the front of a Claymore's body, that it put off a bunch of horny pillaging bandits? Is it just Teresa, as the Claymore who looks after #4 seems pretty normal...? :confused: Also, I'd like to know more about the origins of Claymores, and their training. Wouldn't mind finding more about Ophelia too!

Clarice? She's Miata's "mother"...as long as nothing happens to her, Miata won't go nuts and awaken. Clarice has no choice here..she's following the ORg's orders to babysit Miata.
PLUS, no tit sucking...she gets ripped apart by Miata. ;)

ALL Claymores have the "hole" in front of them as evidenced by Ophelia sticking her hands in that area with Clare in anime episode 12/The Endless Gravestones arc. It could be the tranfusion point for yoma blood while training.

Regarding Clarice's hair...she's one of those rare anomalies, instead of having blonde hair like MOST Claymores there's still a tint of the original. Raphaela has the same "situation" as well. That's why she was taunted by the hunter team 7 years after Pieta. They get no respect.

There's not much to talk about the origins of training, the ORG. Yagi-san has kept the ORg 's origins secret for a long time and I;ve read the manga from top to bottom. All I know is that female orphans are sent to the east, ORG HQ.

[nihilistik]

good incite : in fact youve also gave me something to do while i wait . im gonna start from chapter one again.

[hollywoodlou]

good incite : in fact youve also gave me something to do while i wait . im gonna start from chapter one again.

Read it slowly...we've got 2 more months til November.

Here's something I noticed just this week...in the anime, Irene/Ilena has elf ears BUT in the manga, she has normal ears as you will notice in the MARKED FOR DEATH arc, where they go after Teresa.

[Hynavian]

good incite : in fact youve also gave me something to do while i wait . im gonna start from chapter one again.

Same here. Im going to re-read from chapter one onwards.
Might make some new interesting discoveries.

Is it only me but I notice that rank #4 among the Claymores seems to end up in the hands of some mentally unstabled claymore (with the exception of teresa's generation).

#4 - Ophelia <===== you're nuts if you think that she's not nuts
$4 - Miata <===== another nutty claymore

[hollywoodlou]

Same here. Im going to re-read from chapter one onwards.
Might make some new interesting discoveries.

Is it only me but I notice that rank #4 among the Claymores seems to end up in the hands of some mentally unstabled claymore (with the exception of teresa's generation).

#4 - Ophelia <===== you're nuts if you think that she's not nuts
$4 - Miata <===== another nutty claymore

What's up H? That is a "crazy" coincidence!:D I think the ORg thought one day..."hmmm, if we have a potential # 1 and they're nuts...let's stick em' at # 4...let's call this the "mental" designation.:lol:

[sinisterhive]

wow that would be really gay if there are only 26 episodes.. does ne1 know how many episodes there are in total?

[Tensa Zangetsu]

alot of animes end up shorter then the manga and are usually worse, for example: ichigo100%, FMA, Elfen Lied (thats an exception, it was diferent then manga but totally awesome!) well to hold off my wait im rereading the series as it comes out in english on shelves. Claymore is so cool, but i feel a little iffy calling them that because it isnt there real name. what u call them?

[negitoro]

wow that would be really gay if there are only 26 episodes.. does ne1 know how many episodes there are in total?

You might have to wait quite a long time before you'll get Season 2 of the anime. There really isn't enough material to make anohter 26 yet....

[asanta]

i dont mind when the anime seasons come out but i would like the manga chapters to come out quicker :D

[Hynavian]

Well...on the bright side, the monthly waits are worth it as long as the plot is well developed. I rather wait than receive shabby work.

Oh ya back to my topic on the #4 of the organisation. Since #4 are all nut cases (with the exception for Teresa's generation), what do you all think of the #47 then?

#47 Clare & #47 Clarice. Any similarities?

[aarbart]

I think I know what the next Extra Scene will be about.
Have you noticed what Miria said in anime ep 21 when she met Ligardes ?! She definitely know him, she saw him before in awakened form ! They've met at least once. Miria know even his nickname "Silver Lion-King". Isley also said something about this meeting. He said that Ligardes "lost control of himself" in the past and since then he's known as silver lion king. This two facts says that this story will be resolved in nearest Extra Scene !
What do u think ?

[asanta]

i think the #47's are the newbies..... if you get what i mean, the 'not really' claymores....
Clare was only 0.25 yoma, which is half the normal, and Clarice is an 'incomplete' Claymore.

but they're boh pretty too. :D

[hauntho]

Lol... This is somewhat like Bleach, y'see?

Hollow = Yoma
Arrancar = Awakened Being

The whole concept is the same, too.

Vizards can overstep boundaries and let their hollow sides take over, after which they probably have to be killed by the rest of the Vizard.
Claymores can overstep boundaries and let their Yoma sides take over, after which they probably have to be killed by the rest of the Claymore.

Raki = Chad/Inoue
Clare = Ichigo

Constantly breaking limits etc.

[chezkimo]

Lol... This is somewhat like Bleach, y'see?

Hollow = Yoma
Arrancar = Awakened Being

The whole concept is the same, too.

Vizards can overstep boundaries and let their hollow sides take over, after which they probably have to be killed by the rest of the Vizard.
Claymores can overstep boundaries and let their Yoma sides take over, after which they probably have to be killed by the rest of the Claymore.

Raki = Chad/Inoue
Clare = Ichigo

Constantly breaking limits etc.



Wrong. Have to disagree with you there.

For starters claymore is much more serious than bleach AND i'm not critisizing bleach here, i love it too, i'm just showing the diferences, but claymore is more serious. also, there's tonns of animes like that where they either have your demons or your evil spirits that the characters must kill. and i have no memory of vizards over-stepping boundries and this has not been sohwn in anyway i don't think. and claymores over-step the boundries by using too much of thier yoma power and because they're a man-made hybrid the yoma part takes over, however, they are still kind of the person they were accept in yoma form and witht ehc oncious of a yoma, however with the memories of their pasts. where as if a vizard would be taken over by thier inner hollow, it would be a seperate person taking over if you get what i mean, and how can vizards go over the limit anyway, the only way that their hollow side could take over is if they loose the battle of thema nd thier inner hollow, like when ichgo had to fight his.

(yes i know i type too much) also, the plots are different, claymore's is abit more complex.

also, clare dosn't =ichigo coz ichigo becomes a shinigami to protect his family, clare's over all goal is/was to kill priscilla so for revenge.

- - now i'll stop.

anyway, yeah, #4s seem to be nut-cases. and teresa's generation's #4 wasn't all that nice and polite anyway. but they all seem to have great brutal strength.

as for #47, they all seem to be like failed experiements that wouldn't normally get into the ranks and are newbies.

and oh yeah, is it me or is it that all #3s seem to be specialised claymore that concentrate on skill or a certain skill rather than thier strength. irena - concentrated on the skill of flash sword, galatea - yoki control and clarice's #3 on that skill to deflect an opponents attack. what do you rhink?

[Hynavian]

and oh yeah, is it me or is it that all #3s seem to be specialised claymore that concentrate on skill or a certain skill rather than thier strength. irena - concentrated on the skill of flash sword, galatea - yoki control and clarice's #3 on that skill to deflect an opponents attack. what do you rhink?

I can't comment on the Bleech and Claymore parallel topic as I have only read the first 3 chapters of Bleach and I cant make any comment on it.

However, with regards to #3 of the organisation, I dont think that there's much similarity. As Claymores each have their special abilities, its usual for Claymores of difference abilities to occupy the #3 position. It would be a similarity if #3 position is always occupied by a Claymore who can manipulate Yoki but its not in this case.

[hollywoodlou]

I think I know what the next Extra Scene will be about.
Have you noticed what Miria said in anime ep 21 when she met Ligardes ?! She definitely know him, she saw him before in awakened form ! They've met at least once. Miria know even his nickname "Silver Lion-King". Isley also said something about this meeting. He said that Ligardes "lost control of himself" in the past and since then he's known as silver lion king. This two facts says that this story will be resolved in nearest Extra Scene !
What do u think ?

Good observation...maybe Miria knew Rigald from stories but personally knew him? I need more proof.
On Isley's "joking about the silver eyed lion king" remark..that's easy. Read the arc in the manga when Riful/Duff meet up with the other 11 AB's in the South: one of the Awakened Being's explained the reason why Rigald submitted to Isley because he QUOTE: "got his *** handed to him by Isley".
Rigald was jealous being # 2 to Isley, so they fought as AB's and Rigald lost.

There wont be another Miria scene..that's already been told. Other tales that should be told such as: Helen and Deneve first meeting or how Riful got to the #1 spot...etc.

[Hynavian]

I think I know what the next Extra Scene will be about.
Have you noticed what Miria said in anime ep 21 when she met Ligardes ?! She definitely know him, she saw him before in awakened form ! They've met at least once. Miria know even his nickname "Silver Lion-King". Isley also said something about this meeting. He said that Ligardes "lost control of himself" in the past and since then he's known as silver lion king. This two facts says that this story will be resolved in nearest Extra Scene !
What do u think ?

Ah great one aarbart.
It will be great to see miria's and ligardo's encounter in the next extra scene.

Maybe there might be an extra scene on all the ex-male Claymores too. Ah approximately 10 more days to go below the next extra scene is out. Lets see who's gotten the closest answer.

[hollywoodlou]

Ah great one aarbart.
It will be great to see miria's and ligardo's encounter in the next extra scene.

Maybe there might be an extra scene on all the ex-male Claymores too. Ah approximately 10 more days to go below the next extra scene is out. Lets see who's gotten the closest answer.

Either Riful or Isley...then next bet would be one of the dead major characters @ Pieta like Veronica, Undine, Jean or even Flora. Those who died had a brief but interesting inrtoduction, especially Flora (she's hot).

[asanta]

i wanna know more about the MASSIVE dude.... the one who shoots the pole thingos.... his an absolute monster. ROAR!!!!!!!

[hollywoodlou]

i wanna know more about the MASSIVE dude.... the one who shoots the pole thingos.... his an absolute monster. ROAR!!!!!!!

Read the Cognates of Paradise arc...all we know is that he was the former # 3, as stated by one of the Awakened Beings who were travelling South and they stumbled upon Riful and Duff.

[hehey]

its official, at episode 21 the claymore manga has split from the manga story.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, its gantz all over again.

[asanta]

like i wanna know MORE about him..........hahaha hes funny. and looks cool too :D

[chezkimo]

yeah, i noticed that too. i mean, sure, it's ok if you don't just want a repeated of the manga in anime version but there are some things that shouldn't be changed!! like the battle between clare and flora, that's an important part as it shows how much clare has increased in potential. besides they better make more than one series because the manga definatly stretches more than 26 episodes and the anime still has alot of ground to cover with just six more episodes to go.

I would like to see what the deal between miria and ligards is but i believe that miria hasn't probably met him, just known about him. after all, she is #6. however, i would like to see most of all is how RIFUL AWAKENED, cause she was really young for being at the #1 position and really strong. it wouldn't surprise me if she awakened on purpose seeing as one of those cleverly evil personalities!

what do you think was the circumstances of riful's awakening everybody? and i wander what the new strength of those seven deserters of the north war is? i was sure that helen was able to do that technique that jean produced?!

[aarbart]

I would like to see what the deal between miria and ligards is but i believe that miria hasn't probably met him, just known about him. after all, she is #6. however, i would like to see most of all is how RIFUL AWAKENED, cause she was really young for being at the #1 position and really strong. it wouldn't surprise me if she awakened on purpose seeing as one of those cleverly evil personalities!

I think she did ! Look carefully at the scene. When Ligardes is just about to awake Miria sais:
- no way
- this is ligard the lion king
- why is he here

First - she recognised Ligardes with no doubts, just after he awakened (she didn,t said that it could be him, or mayby it's him, or she heard sth. about lion-like awakened ). Second - she's very supprised that he's in Pieta, she thouthegh he is somewere else, she know a lot of him.

How Riful awakened? - Galatea said that she was very powerfull but young and not experienced. She just misjudged her limits, and passed them. She was similar to Priscilla, who passed her limits because she didn't know them. I think this is not so interesting story in fact.

[Hynavian]

what do you think was the circumstances of riful's awakening everybody? and i wander what the new strength of those seven deserters of the north war is? i was sure that helen was able to do that technique that jean produced?!

Considering #30-47 of the newer generation are all trash, if the whole load (Miria and gang) is to re-join the organisation and the ranks are to be given to them, they will be around....

#1 to #10 category
Miria, Clare, Helen, Deneve
Helen and Deneve included as Miria did tell the Slashers that they were all capable of fighting a single digit one on one back then (which was 7 years back).
Cynthia might make it to the top 10 as she was one of the top 15 back then. She's after Veronica and Undine.

#10-#20
Tibatha and Yuma
Judging from the crappy substanced Claymores found in the newer generation (#30 onwards cannot be considered Claymores IMO) I would have given a 20 ranks promotion to both Tibatha and Yuma. Hence pushing Yuma to the rank of at least #20 and Tibatha to around #10+

Well the truth is I kinda like all of them and wanted to put them all into the top 20 :eban::eban: Im biased.

[chezkimo]

yeah, i guess that's true. but in what situation would she see ligardes so up close.

and yh, i totally agree with hyvain on those ranks, however we really don't know about tabitha and yuma though cause sure they were lower ranks to begin with but they did how did deneve put it, for seven years "practice till they coughed up blood" so even they must be quite strong now!

and oh yeah, does anybody think that galatea will meet up with miria and the gang, coz that would be so cool, galatea, miria and clare all on one team!! and imagine how strong galatea is after seven years now! what do you all think?

by the way, if there was an abyssal one of the east, what do you think it would be hm?



[/I]I think she did ! Look carefully at the scene.
When Ligardes is just about to awake Miria sais:
- no way
- this is ligard the lion king
- why is he here

First - she recognised Ligardes with no doubts, just after he awakened (she didn,t said that it could be him, or mayby it's him, or she heard sth. about lion-like awakened ). Second - she's very supprised that he's in Pieta, she thouthegh he is somewere else, she know a lot of him.

How Riful awakened? - Galatea said that she was very powerfull but young and not experienced. She just misjudged her limits, and passed them. She was similar to Priscilla, who passed her limits because she didn't know them. I think this is not so interesting story in fact.

[hollywoodlou]

yeah, i guess that's true. but in what situation would she see ligardes so up close.

and yh, i totally agree with hyvain on those ranks, however we really don't know about tabitha and yuma though cause sure they were lower ranks to begin with but they did how did deneve put it, for seven years "practice till they coughed up blood" so even they must be quite strong now!

and oh yeah, does anybody think that galatea will meet up with miria and the gang, coz that would be so cool, galatea, miria and clare all on one team!! and imagine how strong galatea is after seven years now! what do you all think?

by the way, if there was an abyssal one of the east, what do you think it would be hm?



[/I]

There is NO Abyssal of the East! The East is where the ORg HQ is situated as mentioned by Rubel. Remember..."the girls are carted to the east...the boys to the north."

You cant just place an Abyssal at Org lands, that Abyssal will be cut down by Alicia/beth.

Regarding Galatea, she's in hiding and that meeting with the 7 would be something excellent for Claymore fans. But I doubt it, what would be awesome is that Galatea, Irene and Raphaela join up with the 7 and make up 10.

Then they could go up against the Org. AND the Abyssals.

[chezkimo]

Lol. woah, ok. no need to get so angry. i know there is no abyssal of the east, i meant what if there was a fourth abyssal one and i had forgotten that the orgi's in the east. besides, alicia isn't all that special, she can only fight on par with abyssal ones, if another one like priscilla came along and decided to be thier own boss and target the orgi then they'd be screwed if you ask me.

and yes galatea is hiding however, there was hints that other claymore have gone searching for her before, and her being a smart girl and all she probably moved around and didn't stay in one place for too long of a time. by the way, didn't irene et killed? and i don't think raphael will do that, she's too much like a zombie.


There is NO Abyssal of the East! The East is where the ORg HQ is situated as mentioned by Rubel. Remember..."the girls are carted to the east...the boys to the north."

You cant just place an Abyssal at Org lands, that Abyssal will be cut down by Alicia/beth.

Regarding Galatea, she's in hiding and that meeting with the 7 would be something excellent for Claymore fans. But I doubt it, what would be awesome is that Galatea, Irene and Raphaela join up with the 7 and make up 10.

Then they could go up against the Org. AND the Abyssals.

[Smasher]

Hasn't Priscilla lost her memories, so does she even know that she is an awakened being?

[Manga-Otaku]

No she still has them. I can't believe she has literally reverted to a child like state...Now what will happen to Raki? He's kind of..

[chezkimo]

no, aakened beings get to keep thier memories but then again priscilla is emotionally unstable and a fruit cake.

[hollywoodlou]

Lol. woah, ok. no need to get so angry. i know there is no abyssal of the east, i meant what if there was a fourth abyssal one and i had forgotten that the orgi's in the east. besides, alicia isn't all that special, she can only fight on par with abyssal ones, if another one like priscilla came along and decided to be thier own boss and target the orgi then they'd be screwed if you ask me.

and yes galatea is hiding however, there was hints that other claymore have gone searching for her before, and her being a smart girl and all she probably moved around and didn't stay in one place for too long of a time. by the way, didn't irene et killed? and i don't think raphael will do that, she's too much like a zombie.

Did I read "angry" lol gome dude. I work for this casting agency and this wanna be actress who wanted a part for CSi Miami didn't get the part so she yelled back at me., before I answered your post.:D

Don't underestimate Alicia. In the end of the Witch's Maw arc, one of the ORg members spoke with Alicia and asked if she could take out Riful. Alicia replied :"i could damage her by 50% but then I shall die." This was when she Alicia was below 50% complete.
Either way, that's one hell of a fight. probably longer than the Luciela-Isley bill.

Irene's demise is the most questionable. I;ve had arguments on different Claymore forums about this and the tide is turning that Irene SHOULD be alive.
Let me ask you: in the manga Fit For Battle arc and the anime episode 9, did u notice that once Raphaela spoke, the scene IMMEDIATELY SHIFTS to Clare, right?

No rolling head on the ground, no death.

Raphaela re-joined the ORg because she ONLY wanted info on Luciela's whereabouts---that's it. Remember, Raphaela was BANISHED by the ORg because she was the sister of Luciela. THEN after Teresa died, Rubel found her in the cave and offered her the # 5 spot in exchange for info on Luciela.

Raphaela used the info to kill Luciela, then disappeared. She got what she wanted in the end and doesn't need the ORG anymore.
What;s in it for her to kill Irene?

[Hynavian]

No rolling head on the ground, no death.

Agreed. Actually I was rooting that Irene's alive so that I can see her in the next few volumes.



Raphaela used the info to kill Luciela, then disappeared. She got what she wanted in the end and doesn't need the ORG anymore.
What;s in it for her to kill Irene?

However, I would like to try make up an argument to say that Irene had died then. (We must be rebels! Going against the tide!)

The Rafaela then would not have hesitated to chop off Irene's head as she's under the orders of the organisation to do so. There was no reason that she should not as she was then still relying on the organisation for information of her sister. (No chop Irene head = no information)

And Im sure that the organisation would not have believed Rafaela unless she brought back a dead Irene corpse to the HQ. Remember the scene where HQ sent Galatea to confirm Clare's death and to bring back Clare's corpse dead or alive? They probably wanted Rafaela to do the same too. Well unless Rafaela is good at lying and tricked the organisation into believing that she did killed Irene.


Have you all ever wondered how the organisation knew that Galatea was lying about Clare's death? Im sure that Galatea was not so stupid to come up with some lousy lie.

[chezkimo]

Yup, yup. See all that you said there for reasons of irene getting killed, that's why i think she's dead. think like this, raphael is a zombie and instead of brains she wants luciela's death. lol. anyway, being a zombie and all that's all she's thinking about, she dosn't care for the life or a renegade claymor eshe has to seek out and kill, it's nothing personal to her. so, she just has to quickly chop off her head and then she can keep going after luciela like the one tracked-zombie she is.

By the way, is there like no way out of the orgi. once you become a half-yoma. coz all the people that run away from the orgi get hunted down and killed. that ennoys me. and yeah, ofcourse alicia is really strong but in order for her to be that strong she has to fully awaken and dosn't awakening on purpose give you more immediate power than awakening by acident

[asanta]

yea.... i second Hynavian i wanna see Irene again, although she has no arms : P

[hollywoodlou]

yea.... i second Hynavian i wanna see Irene again, although she has no arms : P

She stated in the manga: "dont worry, in a few months I'll grow MY ARM again."

If there's an exception to the "NO offensive warrior can regenerate body parts" mumbo jumbo...it's Irene.

[chezkimo]

oh really. ok!! you see i watched that part in the anime and she didn't say that and i didn't read that part in the manga.

one question however, if it's true that she was going to regenerate her arm after a month then why didn't she regenerate her previous arm cut off by priscilla. coz wooh she's had enough time to do that. and it makes me wander, what she did in seclusion everyday as a renegade. even claymore have to ocupy themselves with something for about 10 years

[hollywoodlou]

oh really. ok!! you see i watched that part in the anime and she didn't say that and i didn't read that part in the manga.

one question however, if it's true that she was going to regenerate her arm after a month then why didn't she regenerate her previous arm cut off by priscilla. coz wooh she's had enough time to do that. and it makes me wander, what she did in seclusion everyday as a renegade. even claymore have to ocupy themselves with something for about 10 years

Ok, on scene 38 page 23 of the manga...here's the exact quote by Irene:

"It will take a FEW MONTHS, but I should be able to grow a normal arm"

Also, as explained by Ophelia on the Endless Gravestones scene 36. offensive warriors cant regenerate body parts BUT can re-attach them if they do it QUICKLY.

That's why Clare attached the FS arm of Irene quickly at Irene's request. Clare knew this also on scene 36.

Of course, Irene had to lay STILL because Priscilla could sense her small yoma power AND didn't have time to re-attach her cut off arm by Priscilla. IT WAS TOO LATE to re-attach it.

The reason why she was in seclusion )everyone knows this as explained in BOTH manga & anime)...Irene has had enough of fighting and DUE TO HER FIGHT WITH PRISCILLA, she's SCARED to die. That's why she ran and hid from the ORG.

[chezkimo]

lol. ok, ok, i see.

but where's irene gona get a spare arm from? i mean she did cut off her previous arm for clare and now she's got nothing! and lol, if she just found an arm lying around she'd have a haaaard trouble picking it up, lol.

and yh, i know why she went into seclusion. that part was just joking around. but knowing irene and her insane mental strength she could sit there for about ten years twidling her thumbs and still not get bored.

[Hynavian]

but where's irene gona get a spare arm from? i mean she did cut off her previous arm for clare and now she's got nothing! and lol, if she just found an arm lying around she'd have a haaaard trouble picking it up, lol.

Well, Irene can regenrate both her arms at the same time :) It makes more sense to me to regenerate both at once then one at a time. Unless, of course, regenerating both arms will slow down her rate then she might go one at a time.

Im thinking what if Irene met Galatea and Galatea gave her one of hers? Galatea is a defensive type and can regenerate an equally strong claymore arm in a day. And Irene will be back in action will an equally strong arm :)

:p

[hollywoodlou]

lol. ok, ok, i see.

but where's irene gona get a spare arm from? i mean she did cut off her previous arm for clare and now she's got nothing! and lol, if she just found an arm lying around she'd have a haaaard trouble picking it up, lol.

and yh, i know why she went into seclusion. that part was just joking around. but knowing irene and her insane mental strength she could sit there for about ten years twidling her thumbs and still not get bored.

Where's she gonna get AN arm? freakin steal it of course!:cool: Don't worry about picking it up...Raphaela and Irene probably had an 'alliance" after that 'fake death'.

m thinking what if Irene met Galatea and Galatea gave her one of hers? Galatea is a defensive type and can regenerate an equally strong claymore arm in a day. And Irene will be back in action will an equally strong arm

Galatea wont give up her arm. She has a massive ego...specifically, she thinks she's THE beauty Queen of all Claymores, judging by her comments in the Witch's MAw arc. I don't think she could handle cutting her hair off, either. hehe

[chezkimo]

lol!! steal it?! guess you're right. and the more i think about it, the makers of claymore like to twist things up abit, i mean, yeah, we all knew that clare and mira and deneve and helen were going to survive but still it did look very unprobable at one point, and whne they introduced clarice for a split second you did think that "oh no, there not gonna replace clare are they?! not with this girl!", so the more i think about it the more i am starting to think irene could be alive.

by the way, i'm sure galaea and irene could make a trade. one of galatea's arm for irene's hair tips and stylings! coz lets face it, irene's hair has got to be the straightest and long i have seen of all the claymores!

now talking about galatea, seeing as her yoki power increases more than any other of her former peers, what do you think she'd be like if she awakened?! she'd be quite strong no? and knowing galatea it wouldn't be something really beastly and monstrois like some of the others!

[hollywoodlou]

lol!! steal it?! guess you're right. and the more i think about it, the makers of claymore like to twist things up abit, i mean, yeah, we all knew that clare and mira and deneve and helen were going to survive but still it did look very unprobable at one point, and whne they introduced clarice for a split second you did think that "oh no, there not gonna replace clare are they?! not with this girl!", so the more i think about it the more i am starting to think irene could be alive.

by the way, i'm sure galaea and irene could make a trade. one of galatea's arm for irene's hair tips and stylings! coz lets face it, irene's hair has got to be the straightest and long i have seen of all the claymores!

now talking about galatea, seeing as her yoki power increases more than any other of her former peers, what do you think she'd be like if she awakened?! she'd be quite strong no? and knowing galatea it wouldn't be something really beastly and monstrois like some of the others!

Irene's hair is the best amongst the Claymores...UNTIL...you see Miata's. I mean, her hair is so long when she fights, it's all over the place. When Clarice first meets, it;s like meeting cousin IT.
Who am I to knock Miata...she's got great tit sucking skills.

Galatea's awakened form would be one of the sexiest...I mean, it's going to be shame to kill her. Just like Ophelia, Riful's Awakened forms, her tits are sure to be out.

[Hynavian]

Galatea wont give up her arm. She has a massive ego...specifically, she thinks she's THE beauty Queen of all Claymores, judging by her comments in the Witch's MAw arc. I don't think she could handle cutting her hair off, either. hehe

Oh yeah! As a fan of Galatea....I agree with you.

by the way, i'm sure galaea and irene could make a trade. one of galatea's arm for irene's hair tips and stylings! coz lets face it, irene's hair has got to be the straightest and long i have seen of all the claymores!

Come on chez! Galatea is much younger and her hair is more silky than Irene's hair. She's the QUEEN! She doesnt need hairdo tips from Irene :lol:

Irene's hair is the best amongst the Claymores...UNTIL...you see Miata's. I mean, her hair is so long when she fights, it's all over the place. When Clarice first meets, it;s like meeting cousin IT.

Now here's the most important argument for my this post. Galatea is definitely the QUEEN as Miata always messes up her hairstyle when she's fighting. While fighting, Miata behaves like an animal and her hair swings all over, covering her face. Its even fully soaked with Yoma blood at the end of the fight *Yucks*
Miata definitely needs hairstyling tips from Galatea instead :cookies:

Coming to awakened forms, Jeane's pretty butterfly form is awesome. So is RoseMary's. Im thinking Galatea would not have lost in this aspect since she is our BEAUTY QUEEN right? :eek: What Im afraid of is that her awakened form might take on thesame form as that Yoki controlling male awakened being who got smashed by Clare & Flora in Pieta. Now thats ugly.


On a separate note
hollywoodlou, your Teresa's signature rocks :thumbup:

[asanta]

talking about hair styles....... i think clarice's hair is pretty kewl!~~

[chezkimo]

lol. correct hynavian, galatea DEFINATLY wouldn't loose in this aspect! Don't worry, i don't think she'd look like that other awakened being that could also control yoki. like i've said before, male awakened beings seem to be more monstrois looking than females. take riful for example (yeah, i know i'm a riful fan maniac) she has a childish look as human form and her awakened form is sooooooooo pretty, in a dark way, but incredibly pretty none the less. and then there's jean's, who you can tell dosn't even care that much about her looks as someone like galatea.

also, flora's hair was pretty too and was quite good looking.

in any case lets talk about the physical features that awakneed galatea might have. wings?! metalic skin? any resemblence to anything in particular? like how luciela's was semi-cat style. and there was the silver-eyed lion king.

[chezkimo]

oh yeah. great signature hollywoodlou. may i ask where you got the border from?! been looking for some and i'm not good at making things like that

[Hynavian]

in any case lets talk about the physical features that awakneed galatea might have. wings?! metalic skin? any resemblence to anything in particular? like how luciela's was semi-cat style. and there was the silver-eyed lion king.

Read only if you’re bored
My preference would be…
Galatea’s awakened form taking on a humanoid form (something like Prsicilla). So that she will have 2 legs instead of the so many legs that I have seen that makes the others look like bugs. And 2 hands too cause too many hands make her look like some bug (once again). To make it special, maybe one of her arms can transform to take on some whip-like shaped weapon so that she can thrust out her whip like weapon and perform a one swipe KO to destroy her enemies. As for wings, I think it doesn’t matter whether she has it or not as she’s not some bug who flies in the sky. Since she’s a defensive type maybe some armoured here and there like at her back, shins etc. Also a spike coming out from each of her elbow…Well definitely nice tilts as the other female awakened beings all have nice tilts.

I have thought for long whether an awakened Galatea should have a nice hairstyle to match her form. Im thinking maybe…but if its too long, wont it get in her way when she’s fighting? Only Riful’s hair style appear to be of some use for female awakened beings. The tiny amount of hair that is on Priscilla’s head doesn’t make her look nicer nor is it useful for her in any battle.

As for her human form, she should look somehow similar (height, weight) to her Claymore form right? Except that her hair and eyes colour should take a change. I say black hair and blue eyes. What do you all think? And yes she will dispose that Claymore outfit and dress up maybe like how Miria & gang is like after they went into hiding.

take riful for example (yeah, i know i'm a riful fan maniac) she has a childish look as human form and her awakened form is sooooooooo pretty, in a dark way, but incredibly pretty none the less.

Chez, take up my advice: Get yourself a Riful signature and join hollywoodlou and me in the Claymore sig fanclub

[chezkimo]

Yes, yes. i agree with her being humanoid form, hate those bug-looking beings. but when i said wings, it could be wings of any kind, cause remember ther's those bug wings, then there's priscilla's wierd muscle wings, then there's jean's butterfly-like wings. she could turn out to have metalic buttefly wings, so it hasn't got all viens and stuff popping out of it.
as for the hair, i think she should have it. i doubt it will get in the way except if it was like incribly long compared to her height.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, i have looked for a riful banner so much, can't find one. however, i did find an ophelia banner, so i snatched that!

[Hynavian]

Don't worry your Ophelia's banner is cool too. Now you're in the official Claymore banner club. Im the self declared boss and hollywoodlou and you can be my underlings :D

But its tough to picture a full blown female awakened being with long hair (except for Riful). Riful is a special case as her hairs can act as her weapons and it does range attacks for her.

As for wings, I think its useless to have wings unless Galatea wants to fly. Imagine Galatea having peacock like wings. It might beautify her (making everyone go wow so cool!) but there's some extra weight attached to it. It will definitely get in the way during battle. Unless of course the wings can shoot out darts or something.

Jeane's butterfly awakened form is nice though. Notice that Jeane and Ohelia's awakened form have no hair on their head. Grrr...I wonder why?

[chezkimo]

lol. um, instead of the term, underling, can i be vice-preisdent! or junior vice-president, either way! and i do actually like ophelia. at first i didn't like her with her being evil, crazy and trying to kill clare, but at the end of the episode, when she dies, i started liking her. it's actually that part which is what my sig message is about, y'know, about her trying to become strong so that she can avenge her dead brother by killing priscilla, but somehow she kinda forgot about her goal and went outta control with becoming strong and battling strong opponenets.

yeah, true i guess, but she could, lets say in her fake human form take out her wings and use them to fly away. then she'd look pretty and be able to fly cause y'know how they can use thier awakened body parts but still be in human form like the abyssal ones do.

i didn't notice that actually, coz ophelia had her hair long and tied back so you couldn't see her hair most of the time anyway, and jean makes her hair very short for battling purposes.

by the way, type my nick name into google. i use this name alot and i'm a member of quizilla and created like 60 quizzes so my name got spread around alot, so don't be so surprised. :)

[hollywoodlou]

Coming to awakened forms, Jeane's pretty butterfly form is awesome. So is RoseMary's. Im thinking Galatea would not have lost in this aspect since she is our BEAUTY QUEEN right? What Im afraid of is that her awakened form might take on thesame form as that Yoki controlling male awakened being who got smashed by Clare & Flora in Pieta. Now thats ugly.

Galatea's form should be in the same range as Riful's. You can see the outline of a bodacious woman. I think instead of tentacles (same old AB attack arsenal), her hair would serve as tentacles but keep her nice face.

On a separate note
hollywoodlou, your Teresa's signature rocks
oh yeah. great signature hollywoodlou. may i ask where you got the border from?! been looking for some and i'm not good at making things like that

Thanks Hy! I made 3 of them on Friday but I "scattered" them throughout different Claymore forums. I made one up where she's sitting in a sexy position while the campfire was burning.

Chez, the border is from Adobe Photoshop CS3 suite. Your Ophelia banner is freakin big though;)

Don't worry your Ophelia's banner is cool too. Now you're in the official Claymore banner club. Im the self declared boss and hollywoodlou and you can be my underlings

chezkimo
lol. um, instead of the term, underling, can i be vice-preisdent! or junior vice-president

Why the hell am I the subordinate here?:lol: All 3 of us should share the top 3 slots...like the Mafia. lol
The Claymore 1Manga Mafia...cool.:devil:

Jeane's butterfly awakened form is nice though. Notice that Jeane and Ohelia's awakened form have no hair on their head. Grrr...I wonder why?

Jean's Awakened form is nice being in a butterfly form...have you asked what is her attack specialty anyways in you were a butterfly?
Unless there's a giant flower that needs to be pollenated, I have no clue what attack she can produce with that form.

[Hynavian]

Why the hell am I the subordinate here?:lol: All 3 of us should share the top 3 slots...like the Mafia. lol
The Claymore 1Manga Mafia...cool.:devil:
Ok I'll be nice and share the boss spot with hollywoodlou. Chez can be the underling since he wants to be the vice president :eban:

*Officially opens the Claymore 1Manga Mafia Club.


Jean's Awakened form is nice being in a butterfly form...have you asked what is her attack specialty anyways in you were a butterfly?
Unless there's a giant flower that needs to be pollenated, I have no clue what attack she can produce with that form.

Hmm her form doesnt seem any similar to Dulf and I dont think she has the ability to shoot projectiles out from her body. My guess is she'll be real quick and do a dash attack just like when she was a Clymore. She'll dash over in her butterful butterfly form and give her enemies a slash with her weapon like hands.

Well...I still question the use of those nice wings though. Maybe to block or deflect enemies' projectiles with it?

[hollywoodlou]

Ok I'll be nice and share the boss spot with hollywoodlou. Chez can be the underling since he wants to be the vice president :eban:

*Officially opens the Claymore 1Manga Mafia Club.



Hmm her form doesnt seem any similar to Dulf and I dont think she has the ability to shoot projectiles out from her body. My guess is she'll be real quick and do a dash attack just like when she was a Clymore. She'll dash over in her butterful butterfly form and give her enemies a slash with her weapon like hands.

Well...I still question the use of those nice wings though. Maybe to block or deflect enemies' projectiles with it?

Agreed...Chez is our underling.:thumbup: Whew, this authority thing is easy.

How about this technique for an "Awakened Jean"...the "drilling butterfly" technique. Her entire body SPINS while projectiles come out of her wings. This is from her "useless against Rigald" :D "drill manuever...

[SKATEateer]

why has this manga taken so long
to update
not bein super rude
but curious since its a real popular manga

[hollywoodlou]

why has this manga taken so long
to update
not bein super rude
but curious since its a real popular manga

Because just like the rest of us, we ALL have to wait for November 2 for Jump Square to be published. For the past 5 months, Shonen Jump, the original home of Claymore dropped the series and will evolve into the Jump Sq. shonen.
In the meantime, Yag-sensei has given us Extra Scenes to fill the time.

[Excel-Kleinwald]

Hey kiddies, closing this thread to make a new one real soon.